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Tonight's guest is Mark Mark.

Welcome to the show.

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Thanks for being here.

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Mark.

Please give us a brief bio in yourself.

All right, my name is Mark.

I was born in nineteen ninety one.

I was born in Memphis, Tennessee, but I was raised in a smaller country town.

It's Middleton, Tennessee.

It's about sixty miles i'd say, east of Memphis.

So and we just got a red light, a dollar general, about two gas stations, and a hardware store and that's about it.

Wow, that's a small town with just one red light.

Yeah, and it's not even a red light either, it's just a blinking light.

You just pull up.

It's got a full way and you just ease on through.

There are a lot of people that might see that as being a drawback, but you know, there are a lot of good things that come along with that as well.

Yeah, we're not too far from any kind of bigger city either.

So it's kind of secluded in a way, but you can drive twenty minutes and you can be at a Walmart as well and be into a town.

So it's I like it.

It's little more secluded.

It's slow living and you kind of know everybody around you and kind of get a gist of what's going on too.

So we don't have high crime or nothing like that.

So oh no, I bet you don't.

Yeah.

For me, I don't know.

It's like being raised in the country.

I pick up a lot of skills that people wouldn't live in the city.

But that also goes both ways as well, But I just prefer the country myself.

Well that makes two of us.

I don't blame you there.

Mark.

Around two thousand and eight, when you were around sixteen years old, a friend of your has told you about something he saw that really shook him up.

Well, where can you tell us about that?

So he was his name Sam, and we've been best friends.

The first time we ever met was actually on the school bus.

We rode the same school bus as Bush twenty six, and I believe it or not, we got into a fight the first time we met, and we were arguing, and I said, he dared me to hit him, and I took a pin out of my pocket and I drew an X on his face and I punched him square in the face.

Well, of course we had to go to the principal and everything.

And once we were on the way to the principal's office, they just so happened called our names over the intercom and we met.

We said he when we go on the office list, were tend like we're friends, and that we did this on purpose.

So we did that.

We went into the office and we told the principal that we were just playing.

Well, just so happened.

After all that, we just became best friends.

And we played baseball together as well, so we're pretty close knit.

And we met probably fourth grade, I would say, And like I said, we just became best buds.

And we had a small group of people, everybody that rode Bush twenty six.

We all hung out outside of school as well.

Sam lived on the kind of like the western part of the county and then I lived on the southern part, which is only about ten miles from each other.

But he lived in.

The community called Roger Springs and I lived down by the state line.

So and like I said, but we used to always ride bicycles and go out and have a good time like kids would do.

Well.

Sam one night when nobody was around, so he got out on his bike and he was going down Foster Road and it's a big old long hill and then there's a railroad track and you could kind of jump the track if you get going fast enough.

Well, that's what his point was.

And also to tell it was a full moon that night, and like you could see everything.

So that is one reason he was going righting too down the road is you could see.

Well, he come down that hill and he jumped the tracks and he slammed on his brakes and he slid sideways.

And there's kind of a gravel parking lot where dumps at right there.

We used to have dump sites in the county.

That would be about four dumpsters set up and people of that far of the county could just go take their trash there, which you know, you'd have a lot of people that would throw dead carcasses out and they would throw stuff beside the cans and stuff like.

That's kind of a trashy area, you know, it's there wasn't the best looking spot, but that's just what we have.

So when he come down there, he slammed on his brakes and right there were beside the track, there's a lot of gravel on the road, and he slid his bike sideways and he's seen something.

Now that's corn design.

He looked over and for what he described it was, it was something eating a dead carcass right there in the ditch, and it rose up out of the ditch, and he said he looked it dead in the face, and he got so scared he just turned around and he took off.

Now, it didn't chase him or anything like that, but it gave him a big scare.

And he went home and he told his dad about it, and his dad was like, oh, that wasn't nothing, you know, don't worry about it.

But he was seriously terrified.

And the next night or whatever, we came out and he was telling us about it.

Was, I say, the next night, the next day he was telling us about it, and he didn't he couldn't explain what it was, but he knew it was some kind of creature.

And that night he would not come out after dark to ride bikes with us and hang out and all we were like, what, like, we didn't believe We did believe him, but we didn't want to believe him, you know.

It was like there's got to be some kind of explanation.

Well, well after about a week or so, he was doing research over at Brandon Neil's house on the computer and he come to the determination it was a werewolf is what he's seen.

So then he goes and he tells his dad.

You know, what he's saying is a werewolf.

And his dad was like, don't ever, don't go around telling nobody you've seen that.

That was probably somebody in the mask trying to scare you.

Well, sounds like, no, that wasn't nobody in a mask.

I seen that.

He was a full body, like you could tell what human.

It was like seven foot tall.

Well, after his dad told him that somebody in the mask, he kind of, you know, kind of discouraged him, I guess from talking about it much.

But he would tell us among our group friend you know, the group of us.

So once he found out there's a werewolf, he just went around all the time when we were riding, he would always be scared and tell us he's seen a were wolf.

Well, as years go on.

He still would not when we were riding around once we got our driver's license and stuff.

He would only pee where there was a street lark, Like if we were riding around on a back road and we all had to beee, he would not get out of the vehicle unless there was a streetlight.

And also ania back up a little bit.

He wouldn't come out outside for about a year after dark after this too as well.

So like he was genuinely terrified and it we kind of made fun of him about it, you know, poke at him, and he would just swear that he was dead serious about it.

You told him that you wanted to go out looking for that werewolf, And what I understand, did you take him seriously when he told you about what he had seen or did you think he was full of it?

Well, the first time he told us about it, you know, after that night, I was kind of skeptical of what he's saying.

You know, I believed he's seen something, but I wasn't too sure that he's seen a werewolf like he said he did.

And even at the time, he didn't know what he's saying.

But he researched for brandon Nell on the computer and he come to the conclusion that it's a werewolf.

So you know, I kind of him yes and then kind of no.

But the determination of him being so terrified after that encounter when it happened, he wouldn't go outside for like a year past dark, And you know that if he didn't see anything, then he wouldn't be terrified and wouldn't want to go out past dark if he was wanting to hang out with his friend.

So he really was scared.

So that made me kind of believe it, but I still kind of not.

But then another thing though, is as the years went on, once we got our driver's license, he wouldn't when we were riding around and we had to pee or something.

He would only stop if there was a street light.

And once you're riding around with buddies for hours and hours, you got to feel a lot.

So but he would not be unless we were at the street light.

He would make me take him to an area where it was real lighted up and bright.

So at this point I believe him more than I previously did when he first told me about it, because I could tell that he was serious.

You know, when he would get this like.

Look on his face every time we started talking about it, like he would genuinely get scared.

Well, I'm sure would.

Yeah, that's a pretty normal response to an experience like that.

But also, on the other hand, I can understand why you were kind of skeptical, because that's a pretty big step to go from not having a clue these things are out there to having your bud telling you about an experience like that.

So, like I said, I get it, I really do.

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Were you afraid to come out after dark too?

The way he was after that.

You know, yes and no.

At the same time, I want it to be more of like a macho man type thing and be like, oh, don't nothing scare me.

But in the back of my mind, yeah, it was on my thoughts, and.

I would say that it did affect me as well, being so close to him as we were best friends, in the way that he acted about it, because I could tell he was telling me the truth, you know, So it did and it didn't, But I wanted to see what he was talking about, Like I was like, if I get this, I really would like to know what he's seen that night.

Man.

Well, like you found out, be careful what you wish for.

It, because that is right.

Sometimes if you go around shaking too many trees, a leopard falls out.

That is right, that's true.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Do you think any of the weird wolves that you've seen were the same one that see him saw or do you think they were all different?

No?

Absolutely, is the same.

One is the same one.

And my I truly believe that whatever it is that we seen knows who we are, and it gets off on by scaring us, like as I'll tell you'll learn later on in the story, like it knows where I live, It knows where he lives and has kept track of us over the years, because like I said, this what just one siding in one year.

It was sightings over the period of about five to six years.

So it definitely, it definitely is the same one.

Yes, one thing to see a dog man or a werewolf like we've been calling them tonight.

But if you see one away from your home, that's one thing.

If they know where you live and they make it clear that they do by paying you visits.

Yeah, that takes it to a whole new level.

That's horrible, it really is.

It's one thing to just have one dog me in the encounter, but when you have several encounters with them the way you have, that's got a way of normalizing dog men for an eyewitness, or normalizing dog men for an eyewitness, I should say.

In other words, it makes it easy to believe that there's a dog man hiding behind every tree.

With that in mind, can you go outside at night now without getting the hebgbis.

Every time I go out at night, I think about it.

It's right there in the back.

Of my mind.

It really is.

Now.

I'm not I don't think it's out to hurt anyone, but still just the thought of that, Yeah, if something a twig breaks over in the side yard or something, and I don't I can't exactly pinpoint what broke that twig.

In the back of my mind, I'm like, is that thing watching me?

You know?

It's just and you know worse, I am calling it a werewolf.

But it's very hard for me to believe that there's a human that transforms into another creature.

I don't really believe that I believe it's more of a creature on its own than something that actually transforms in the moonlight, like when there's a full moon.

Yeah, so hard to believe that these things are actually out there looking the way they do twenty four seven, three sixty five.

It's an even bigger stretch, like you said, to think that people can transform somehow into that state.

But yeah, anything's possible.

I mean, dog men are definitely out there, So yeah, I guess what can't be possible?

That's the question.

Jen they going back to the transformation thing from a human, we would kind of make jokes when we were around town, you know, we would look for people and like that is that the werewolf?

You know, is that the guy that transforms?

If any man that was Harry or just kind of looked off, we were like, I bet you that's him.

I'm like just kind of making a joke out of it, just laughing.

But you know, I honestly, truly I don't think that it's something that transforms from a human into a were wolf.

But so dog Man to me, now that I'm you know, look more into it, dog Man seems more plausible to me than the were wolf.

Your first encounter frightened you so bad you could barely talk.

Did you feel bad for not taking to see him all that seriously after he had that first experience.

I did, I really did, because the way that he was terrified, I was terrified as well, like I was shaking.

And you know, I see, I've grew up in the country.

I grew up hunting, I grew up fishing, I grew up shooting firearms and everything, and being out in the woods in dark time, at night time and whatnot, being alone in the woods.

But when I seen what I seen, it like petrified me.

I mean literally just put a terror inside my body like I've never spelt before.

It's it.

And you're going back to your question, Yes, I should have.

I should have took him more serious, and I shouldn't have kind of poked fun at him about it.

But then again, I was just looking for a reaction from him too as well.

And he did understand that.

It wasn't like I was being a bully told him about it, because he would he would laugh about it too sometimes.

But I shouldn't have kind of made fun of him the way I did.

Well, you know, different than the rest of us.

We've all been programmed to think that there's no way these guys could possibly be out there.

So it's not a surprise when people respond like that.

It really isn't.

It's unfortunate, but I mean, you can't be blamed for that.

It's not your fault.

Now, you said that you don't belie even wear wolves, but every time you've had an encounter, a full moon was out.

Considering that, how sure are you that it was a dog man and not a were wolf.

I won't tell it to you, like yes, my papa to mess old wives tale a long time.

We're not a wise tale, but just something some information.

Don't believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

So that keeps my mind open to where I would like to believe it's a were wolf.

But and then in like reality and scientific you know, reasons, I can't believe that it's a were wolf.

I would go more toward it.

Being a dog man because I definitely seen something has been seen by multiple people in this area.

But as far as the scientific reason, I don't think a human could change form, you know, into something like a dog or a were wolf.

You know, well, that makes two of us.

I'll never see anything as a possible But yeah, I think it's a lot easier to explain this way by seeing that these guys look the way they do twenty four seven three sixty five instead of it being a person who can try insfor m.

So we got the same way on that.

All right, Mark, please tell us about your encounters.

Now give it several s detail it comes to mind.

Okay.

Well, me and Sam we're out riding around in my GT one night and I just got straight pipes installed on the car as a V eight to four point six.

But se car is real, real loud, and it is a full moon.

And we were riding and Sam I had to pee and Sam did too, but he made me take him to a street light as always, and I was like, man, dude, that's ridiculous, you know.

But he was like, it's a full moon.

I ain't doing it.

I always when I seen that thing it was a full moon.

Well, I said, you know, let's go, let's let's go looking for this thing.

Let's find it.

And he's like no, no, man u huh, Like he was kind of opposed to it, but I talked him into it.

So we're riding around and we didn't ride around long.

After I mentioned the werewolf dog man thing with Sam would call it.

It's a werewolf, so we'll just say werewolf.

But as we're riding around looking for the werewolf, his whole demeanor changed.

You know.

We went from laughing and cutting up and rapping and doing all this and that, making funny jokes and singing corny songs, to like he was serious over there.

Well, it wasn't long and he was like, all right, man, I'm ready to go home.

And I was like, already, it's you know, it's not even late yet.

And he's like, no, I'm ready to go.

So I took him to his house, which he had just got a small trailer over there in Roger Springs, just right up the road from Clayton's house, which is only about about a mile away from the house he grew up in.

So I dropped him off at his trailer, and as I took off, I was thinking to myself, I'm gonna go by Clayton's house and let him hear my exhausts.

And the reason I'm pointing that out is I could have took a right and drove Dishop Road all the way down to the school, or I could have took a left and there's a full way right there and that turns to Foster Road.

But I decided I wanted to go by Clayton way.

He could hear my exhaust.

So I come out of Salm's house and I floored.

I was burning tires and all that.

I kicked it first, second, third, into fourth, and I was letting my pipes drone as I went by Clayton so he could hear it well.

Clayton and then went outside, so I didn't stop, but I kept on going.

And then that turns into Samee Road and you take a left, and there's a set of railroad tracks and them tracks go down the same way toward the east is where Foster Road is, so that's the same tracks, but it crossed seeing the tracks.

That crossed my mind about you know, the werewolf Sam was talking about.

So it's kind of hot and heavy on my mind right there.

But anyways, I went on down and I got to Highway fifty seven and I went to take a left, which would be driving it back towards Tennessee h Middleton, Tennessee.

But when I come out of there, I floored it, and I was caught second third and was just burning tires all the way through each year.

And I got into fourth year right at about McQueen's Grocery.

It's an old store.

It's shut down now, but there was a gas station there and I was doing about one hundred and ten mile an hour.

Well, I let off the gas and as I got back to about Antioch Road, he's back in it, and I was doing about seventy mile an hour.

And this is the reason I'm stressing how fast I was going and how much noise I was making, because I never really had an issue with deer jumping out in front of that car, because they were scared off long before I got there.

But either way, I'm doing about seventy and fourth gear and I'm letting my pipe drone southway Clayton and all of them can hear it out at their house because the sound.

Travels in that area.

But as I was going around the corner, there's a house to my left, and then right past that house, I said, something come running And the where the roads at right there, it's kind of built up and it's got like a small hill on each side.

Of the road, and there's a tree line too.

But it's only about fifteen foot of clear you know, grass area.

And something come out of the woods and was moving, I mean fast, really really really fast, faster than.

I've ever seen any kind of animal move.

And just the way that it was running was off, like the back legs in the front were like meeting as it was like running.

It was kind of like it was jumping with staying on the ground.

And it was just long.

This thing was huge.

Now it wasn't like real tall, it was just very long.

Well, it come up and like I said, all this is happening in a split second, and it comes up on the highway and I just I hit it.

I didn't have no time to react except for I pushed in the clutch before I could even hit the brake.

I smacked into it.

Well when I hit that thing, like I said, I was doing seventy mile per hour and the cor about came to a complete stop till about like twenty mile an hour.

Now I've hit deer before, I've hit dogs, and you know i've hit right cones, rabbits.

When you hit something in a vehicle, you just keep going, you know, you don't slow down like that.

Just the force of what I hit slowed me down that much it scared me in its own like instantly, I was terrified, and I said, oh my god, that's that freaking werewolf Sam was talking about.

I was like, ain't the whole way.

I'm just I'm telling this to myself.

I'm thinking it and all of something.

Like I said, when it hit me there or when I hit hit it knocked both my headlights out of my cor It wasn't like it done damaged to one side.

It done damaged to the whole car.

But it didn't touch the hood.

And that was just one thing that was weird about it is it pushed the bumper back and it knocked my head light and my blinker lens out, so instantly it's.

Dark, you know.

And the uh, the bumper under the bumper cover is metal, but the cobra on them gts are plastic.

And it pushed the bumper down to the ground.

So I had sparks just flying everywhere.

And the smart thing to do, and the right thing we're to do, is to stop right again, you know.

But no, I was not gonna stop.

I said, I got to get up here.

There's a church up here to the right.

So I said, I'm gonna make it to the church and then I'll pull in there where I have a light and everything else where I can see.

So I drove another about a quarter to a half a mile of that church with no lights on my car and just sparks flying everywhere.

And I'm instantly terrified, I mean just shaking at this point.

So I turned into the church parking lot and I rolled my windows down and I could hear there was dogs barking everywhere.

Now I'm not talking about two dogs.

I mean it sounded like hundreds of them, just all the way around the primed like three hundred and sixty degrees.

There was dogs that you could hear.

From like a half a mile away to a mile away to almost you know, within a hundred yards, just barking.

And raising cane.

Well, that just terrified me.

There.

I was like, where are all these dogs at?

You know, it's not that much of a populated area, so it's like, that is weird.

So I get out and I could hear something kind of rumbling in the woods.

So I jumped back up in my car.

Yeah, I'm freaking out.

Well, I had a bag in my car.

I caught it the black Magic Bag.

It had everything that I needed in that car in case it broke down, because like I said, I was rough on the old car and we lived in the country, so it got tore up quite often.

But anyways, I had like zip ties, duct take any kind of wrenches.

I had headlights, had tail lights.

I had a couple of pull packs.

I had some spark plugs and stuff like that.

But so I got my black Magic bag out, and then also I made sure that my guns were loaded up.

So if we ride around out here were guns in our vehicle.

It's not uncommon to have a high powered rifle and a little pistol with us, so it's not uncommon.

But I made sure they were loaded up, you know, and I set my thirty off six I got it ready, and they had a little twenty two pistol.

Either way, I made sure they were ready.

I got out and I had to rip the bumper off of the car to be able to have access to the metal part that was dragging the ground.

Well, I ripped the bumper cover off and I threw it over to the side in the woods.

And you know, I didn't feel bad about leaving it there, because I do know, the pastor of that church.

I was coming back the next day to do it.

I wasn't just littering, you know, leaving my you know, parts of my car there.

But when I threw it into the woods, like I heard something scrumbling around, and all of a sudden, it got very very quiet.

All the dogs quit barking.

It was just silent.

And you know, if you've ever been hunting or anything, when it gets quiet, and you know there's something to be looking for, because if nothing else is making noise, it's hiding from the whatever it is this, you know, disturbing the area, which could be a human or it could be as this case, to wearwolf or whatever it is.

So that was my first thought, all right, it's quiet.

This is bad.

So I jumped back in my vehicle and I'm almost at tears at this time.

I'm so scared.

But either way, I hike myself up, I get back out and I'm trying to, you know, bend this bumper back up, and I can't do it.

But it was like I kind of got like a superhuman strength because I was so scared.

I was actually able to lift the bumper up about a half an inch to an inch off the ground where it went scraping.

Then I got my duct tape and my zip ties out in the headlight and I hooked the headlight up and I duct taped it on and it was nothing but a bulb there, and without the lens, I couldn't really see much because the lens in the vehicles actually reflects the light so you can see.

So either way, I left from there, and my first thought was I gotta go to Sam's house and tell him what just happened.

So he am going down these old country roads.

Luckily it was a full moon, so I could see a little bit of that headlight.

He wasn't putting out much.

But I pulled up at Sam's and he heard me coming then like he knew I was coming.

He could hear it, and as soon as I pulled up, he opened the door and like I had like tears coming down my face and I was I seen it, Sam, I seen it.

I seen it, And he immediately just grabs me and like rushes me inside.

Well, we sit there and we had a conversation.

I was like, Sam, I seen it.

I seen it.

I hit it.

I hit it, And he was like, you know, did it kill it.

And I was like, no, no, it didn't kill it.

And then we went I said, look, let's go look at the damage.

And I went back outside and Sam wouldn't even go back outside.

He sat on the porch.

But I found hair that was jammed into that bumper, the bumper, like the middle bumper of the car.

It was like black hair jammed in it.

But there wasn't no blood.

So I put the hair in a chip bag and I rolled it up and I went on home.

And then the next day I'm got with Sam and we went by the are you know where I ran into it.

You could see there was pieces of my headlight everywhere.

And we stopped and we were looking around and Sam wouldn't go into the woods.

I wanted to go in the woods and try to track this thing because there was nobody.

That was the main thing we were looking for is if I hit a deer at seventy mile an hour, you know, he would kill the deer.

And also if I hit a dog or whatever, it would you kill the dog.

But there was no body man.

And then about the damage on the car, what was weird is it didn't even touch the bumper.

I mean, the the hood.

It only destroyed the bumper, you know, Like, so what would I hit that was low enough to the ground to not hit the hood and destroy it, but also long enough to take out both headlights, you know.

So Sam's looking on the ground where the grass is at and he sees the headlights and he's like, Mark, there ain't no blood here anywhere.

And I was like, I know, that's weird.

So I went on into the woods and I looked for the body, but I couldn't bind one.

But either way, you know, it was just that was basically it.

You know.

We went back to the bumper cover where it was that at the church and we got it.

And then there was hair in the bumper cover as well, and I put the hair into a chip bag that I already had collecting it.

I said, that was the first time that I seen the thing.

So after that, like I said, I hit whatever it is.

I went around telling people, hey, I hit a werewolf, and people, you know, would give me a funny look, you know, some believed me, some did so I just changed it to I hit a big black thing, you know, whatever it was, because the facts are, I have hair in my vehicle, this black and the hair also is like real thick, like a pine needle.

You know.

It's not like, how do I explain this?

Like it's really really stiff and really really thick, and I's thinking but about like an inch.

Or two long, just not that long.

But so we met up with Tyler martin Ow.

Now this is some time has passed after this, you know, I'm not exactly sure how much time has passed, but it's been a couple of years.

And it's a full moon and we're telling Tyler Martindale about the time that we've seen this so called wearwolf, and since it was a full moon, we're gonna go hunting for it.

And you know with Tyler, he's a rough old cat.

You know, he comes down from Walnut Lake and you know the rough around there, so don't much scare him, you know, And he's always carrying an AR fifteen and that comes into play with the story.

So it was me, Sam and Aaron and Tyler and we're out cruising.

So we went down toward Roger Springs area.

And let me note that to see this thing we had come up with, it has to be a full moon, and you have to be talking about it for you to be able to see it.

And I don't know about if you know, the human the mind is like if you are looking for something, the mind's gonna you're gonna see something.

So I don't know if that's why we just so happen to see it when we're talking about it, or if we're actually summoning this thing up to see it.

I truly believe that we summon it up by talking about it, and like it knows that we're looking for it, so it'll show itself.

But either way, we're riding around Roger Springs and we go down Wellington Road and Wellington Road is a gravel road.

It circles back around the same road.

And as we're coming down this road, you know, Martin Day has a big old, jacked up Dodge truck.

It's got a diesel in it and he has the turbos in it, big old stacks coming out of the back.

So it's really really loud, so you could hear it coming from a mile away.

But we almost at this time haven't even realized that we're still looking for it.

We're just riding around.

It ain't been in our mind.

We're just talking at this point, and the way this road is set up.

It's like a old road from like the third nineteen thirty, so it was dug in with bulldozers and then there's a ridge on each side, like on each side of the road.

It's about ten to twelve foot of dirt and you're just driving through it.

Well, right as we're coming up, it's an old hunting cabin.

That's an abandoned house, is what it is.

But it's a hunting cabin and people come down from Memphis and they hunt.

Well, something come out from the roads from the right side of the road and it comes down the hill, down the ridge or whatever from that yard of that house, and it shoots across the road and then it goes up the.

Other side of the road.

Well, Martinell floors it like warm and slims on the brakes right where it crosss, and we're all looking at this time.

Sam's really freaking out and Loy Aaron is going whoo, whooh, he did this little woo thing whenever you know, something crazy was happening.

He's wooing.

I'm hooping and hollering like it's just utter chaos, you know.

Smrt that slams on the brakes.

He pulls out that ar fifteen and he swings it around to the driver's side, like left side of the road where that thing went up and right above where the Heill crest.

It's like a where power lines run through, so they only cut the power lines once a year, so there's like little sapling trees and there it is lo and behold the freaking were wolf, dog man whatever.

This thing is sitting there staring at us, and it's just giving us like an evil look, and the reflection from the light on the gun is red, and we're just all silent, you know, nobody's saying a word.

But and then about that time, it let out this screech.

I don't know how to explain the screech that this thing let out, but it was terrifying.

I mean, the decimal points.

If we had a decimal reader right then, it would have went off the charts.

It was so loud, and you could hear it over the vehicle as well, sitting there Eyeland, Like we had stats right there behind the cab of the truck, so that was loud on its own, but to be able to still hear it, it was just outrageous and it scared all of us.

And instead of Martin Delle pulling the trigger and shooting whatever, it was like, he had a laser on that gun too, and the laser was pointing on the thing.

The light the flashlight was pointing on it, and the eyes were just like glowing red.

And now I don't think, I don't know if they were just glowing red like that they stay red, but the flashlight was making the eyes red on this thing.

And it was just evil looking.

Man, it just it was evil, like you could just sense that.

It was just I don't know, it was mean, whatever it was.

And instead of pulling the trigger, Martindale drops his gun and just floors it and takes off.

And by this time Sam said go go go, and there's like go.

We're all saying go, go go, and it's kind of just silence after that, and we're not really saying much.

But then Tyler's like, dude, who was that?

And we were like what do you mean?

He was like who was that?

And we're like, dude, that's the werewolf.

What do you mean?

Who was that?

And he was like, no, man, y'all are playing a trick on me.

That ain't no, that's somebody in a gorilla suit, and we're like, dude, Tyler, no, I promise you that is not nobody in a gorilla suit.

We are not messing with you.

And he just kind of chuckle us.

But he's still kind of scared too, so he don't know what to bleed whether we're playing a frank.

On him or not.

And we wasn't.

I mean, we was not franking this guy at all.

But I said, we're coming down that gravel road.

As fast as we could go in that truck.

It would run his tail off.

He could run.

Bout eight seven to eight seconds and eighth of a mile locked in full of drive.

So I had a good take off.

But we come to the end of the gravel road, the sane road, and he kicks it and goes wide open.

He starts slowing down and sayings like no, dude, don't slow down, keep going, keep going.

So he floors it and we're moving it probably a little bit over one hundred mile an hour coming down this road.

Well, there's a house to our left ahead of us, and it has trees growing in like a hedgerow, and you like, I remember, it's it's a full moon, so you can see everything just perfect and in between one of the trees and the hedgerow was the werewolf sitting there.

And it was kind of just sitting up with it's like its fist on the ground, its head was moving straight forward.

The best way to describe it looked like kind of like a gargoyle, like a statue sitting there.

And I mean it was tall.

I mean this thing was huge sitting there like that.

And as we went by it, you know, nobody said nothing because neither everybody was like did we see that?

Or did we not see that?

And I finally said, did y'all see that?

And then Sam was like, oh my god, I seen it too, and then Tyler said he seen it too, and then Aaron said he seen it too.

And I mean it was just it was outrageous.

How could whatever we seen on Wellington Road be, you know, five miles down the road before us and still be standing there waiting for us to come by.

It's it's like impossible because that truck is fast on its own, so nothing could have beat us there, even if somebody was in a sports car, it could not have beat us there.

The only way something could be there before us if it flew like it in like an reality in our world, like a helicopter could have made it there, but nothing with wheels or anything like that.

But but after that, we dropped Sam off, we dropped Aaron off, and then I was the last one to get dropped off because really I'm the only reason Tyler's there too is because like we're friends.

We had met up there at the gas station.

Years before at Cardwell State Line and we got introduced to each other, and he was actually there to see me.

So I was the last one who like he trusted me, Like he don't really trust Sam or Aaron, but he knew he could trust me.

And he looked at me in the face and he almost had tears coming to his eyes and he was like, who were who was in the gorilla suits?

Man?

Tell me?

And I said, Tyler, dude, that was not nobody in a gorilla suit.

That is a werewolf.

I promise you, man, we see this thing.

This ain't the first time we seen it.

Tyler, like we have seen this thing.

He was like, no, man, y'all are tricking me.

And then he got like kind of mad at me, and like he was like kind of like kind of like I was like, is this dude about to fight me, like it's my buddy, you know.

But he's like, don't you ever ever pull a prank on me like that again?

Never do he said, I'll never come back up here again if y'all ever do that to me again.

So I was like, all right, man, So I got my car and he took off.

And to be honest, even to this day, he still thinks that we were pranking him by having somebody in a gorilla suit or something to scare him.

But for one, like we know, when we know Martinelle's crazy anyways, I mean, we know he has that aar.

I'm not going to put somebody in a gorilla suit for him to point a gun at because, for all I figured he would have shocked the thing, you know.

So that's for one point, he should understand that we were not tricking him.

And for two, how would.

We have got somebody else in the uh that yard of that house, you know, posted up in that tree line so fast we didn't know what direction you were coming from.

So there's no way that we could have tricked him, you know.

But in the back of his mind, I think he knows that we really seen something.

But he still thinks retricking.

So that kind of ended, that night ended and whatever, but it still became a thing that when it was a full moon, we would go looking for the thing, but not always would we see it.

And then another encounter where we've kind of seen it but we didn't.

It was just something that was spooky.

It was a full moon and we're out looking for the thing, and we're down in Wolfpen.

And Wolfpen is a little bit east of Middleton, down past Pocahontas, and it's a different area than Roger Springs and technically the only place we've ever seen this thing is in Rogers Springs, but we're down in wolf Pen looking too as well.

Well.

I take a left down a gravel road it's called Matthis Lane.

It's right off wolf Pen, and we're cruising down through there, and I put a cigarette out in a mountain dew that Sam was drinking on an accident just out of habit, you know, wouldn't malicious actor nothing, But he went and he took a drink.

Out of that mountains.

He took his swig of that thing.

I mean, it was he up and he already has a weak stomach as it is, so you know that was rough on him, but he drunk that mountain dew and he's like, oh man, there's a cigarette in it.

And he threw it out of the window with like I mean, just as hard as he could and we could hear it.

It landed out in the woods.

Like So we're only creeping at this time too.

We're doing about fifteen mile an hour, just kind of idling through there.

But at the end of this road now or matthis lane road, it's an old house and an old barn, and it's just a spooky area, and you know, with a full moon and everything, it just made it extra spooky.

So I think Sam or bj one of them was liked, we got to get out of here.

So we turned around and we're on our way out and that mountain dew can was sitting straight in the middle of the road.

Now, this road, there is nobody that lives down it.

The only house is that old abandoned farm, and there was the mountain dew can sitting straight in the middle of the road.

So there we go.

That all it took for is you know, of the wolf man or were wolf dog man, whatever it is is watching us.

So that was enough for us.

For the night and we went on home.

After that we quit looking.

But and then the last encounter that I had that I seen whatever this creature is.

I was at my house and it was a full moon and my pet.

I lived at this house.

It was the same house I grew up in.

My parents had got a divorce and I was able to take over the mortgage of the house and I was living there by myself.

But I had a girlfriend at the time and she was there, and I had two dogs and a cat but I had Their names were pej As the cat Clutch was the black dog, and Susie Cues the white dog.

Now Susie, she's still around this.

She's about close to fourteen fifteen years old now believe.

But she was born in twenty eleven and it's currently two thousand and twenty five, so she's getting on up there.

But she was young at the time.

And I believe this was around two thousand and fourteen.

Now, don't get me wrong, Like I said, this has been years ago, but I'm pretty sure it was twenty fourteen.

And like I said, it's a full moon.

And where the house is, we call it the plantation because my dad's dad's dad, which is my great grandfather, bought this land back in the nineteen twenties, like nineteen twenty eight.

It's about fifteen hundred acres and he started a saw mill out there and he used to run that saw mill and then he used to cook a little bit of moonshine on the side too, and he had like nine steals out in that area.

But either way, like I said, it's a big plot of land.

And where my house is is at the beginning of the road and it was built in probably the nineteen fifty five, I believe, And when my dad was in the second grade, he come to visit our cousins that lived there and he said, when I grow up, I'm gonna buy this house.

And that's what he done, you know, when he got old enough, he bought the house from him.

So where the house is sitting, there is a big field in the front, and then behind the house we have a shopping and shed and all that, and then across the creek there's an old barn and what not.

But you can see a pretty good area around the house.

And something was disturbing the dogs, like the dogs were raising cane and I was like, oh, God, it's a full moon tonight, you know.

So I told old girl.

I'm not gonna say her name, but I told old girl.

I was like, it's a full moon tonight and dogs are barking.

And when I say that, she automatically knows about the werewolf because when it's a full moon, anybody in my circle knows it.

So we mentioned full moon.

So she kind of gives me to look, you know, of doubt.

She believes me, but you know, she thinks we're just crazy whatever.

We didn't really see nothing, that we might be making it up, but.

She gives me a look.

Now, I go outside and Clutch is inside, but Susie Q is already outside on the porch barking.

Well, when I opened the door up, Clutch wouldn't go outside.

I mean, that dog followed me everywhere.

He was cool.

He used to ride a dirt bike with me, and that's why I got his name Clutch.

But anywhere I went, that dog went.

But he would not follow me outside that night and I come out onto the porch and I'm scanning and I can see the front field and there's nothing there.

And then I see Susie and I'm like, let's go get it.

Go get it, girl, And she runs off the porch, and I'm expecting her to do her normal and to go chase whatever this is.

You know, we're gonna chase it down, and like we used to coon hunt with that dog too, So I was ready to go right behind her too and go get whatever it is.

But when she went down the steps, she looked to the left of the house and just turned around and ran back up to the steps.

And I was like, oh my god, what is it?

You know?

So I immediately was.

Kind of, you know, freaked out in my own but I mustered up the string and I went down the steps and I looked to the left.

And when I tell you the most this is probably the most clear description I ever got of the werewolf dog man thing was this night, and it was terrifying.

I looked to my left and where the porch light, you know, it illuminates the yard, there's right there at the edge of where the porch light illuminates there.

It was kind of in the darkness, and it was staring straight at me.

And this night, the os wasn't red.

And this is the thing that was just the most description thing about it that scare me.

As the eyes it wasn't like they were looking straight at me.

It was kind of like they were looking through me and around me like they wasn't They were like kind of betruding to the side, kind of it wasn't just straight ahead.

And the best I could describe it, it looked like a deer standing on its hind legs, but it wasn't a deer.

I know, the deer looks like, but it wasn't.

And it wasn't like real muscular, like it was really really skinny and bony in the way that every the joints of it.

Man, it was just creepy looking like it was something very abnormal.

The bones were just protruding outward, and it was standing about like seven to eight foot maybe even ten fock, I want to say, seven to ten foot tall, and it's just looking at me, staring, And at this time he didn't have his arms on the ground like it was at night whenever we were going by on that house where it looked like a statue.

But it was just like it was staring at me.

And I didn't take you know, just a few seconds, and I turned around and I ran back up in the house.

And I was just, I mean terrified, and like I said, Susie already was ready to run.

I think Susie was already in the house.

But the door of the house was open, I said.

When I busted through the door, I shut the door, I locked it, I hit the dead bolt.

Lot.

I turned around.

I told old girl, I go to the bedroom.

Go go co co co and we ran.

We all ran, and the dogs and all we all ran back to my bedroom.

I locked the door and I grabbed my thirty six, cocked it, and I peeped out of the window on that side of the house.

You could see where it was and there was nothing there.

Man, that thing it was gone.

And you know, that's what really scared me the most.

And I have not went out looking for this thing ever since, and tried to talk about it on the full moon, but it just terrified me that it knew where I lived at.

Like you know, now, I'm thinking, okay, it's kind of got a mark on me, like he knows where I'm at.

So I kind of took it serious, man, And oh girl, she could tell that I was scared too, you know, And I was just kind of just sitting there shaking man, and it's almost just about to cry.

And you know, I was full grown at this time, paying bills on my own, had a job.

I was in college for industrial maintenance.

And here I am a grown man sitting there terrified on the edge of my bed with a gun, thinking that some creatures that are come and get me.

But like I said, after that night, I haven't seen it since.

But I have told the story to other people around this area and they have seen it.

Like Chris Bradley and Dustin they have all seen it too.

One night I was telling them a story and there they lived down Antioch Road, which is kind of in the area of Roger Springs, and they swear they have seen it there a couple of times.

Another girl, Ashley, which is old girl sister, she had seen it, she said, down in wolf Pen area, and she actually got a little small video of it.

She had sent it to me, but aither way she had said she's seen it.

And then, like I said, my brother had seen it with Sam one night, and my brother said it had to have been a bear, you know, that's the best thing he could describe.

It was a bear.

But and then just the other day, whenever I called you, and I was telling you you I got a Thanksgiving dinner and I was trying to plan our phone call around that.

I was telling my old lady about it, Caitlyn, and she was at her sister's house and her told her.

She told her sister, you know, I was going to contact you, And she said that one of her husband's friends had seen something that was like a werewolf down in Hatchie Bottom as well.

So I'm one hundred percent sure.

Like I said, there is something around here that is not in the normal books that we learn about.

And it does.

It does come out on a full moon, but in my opinion, I think it stays dormant for a while and then it comes out, and I think it gets off on by terrifying me or Sam or whoever, like anybody that it knows that has seen it and is actively looking forward.

It'll show himself, but you have to go looking for him.

But except I don't think it's out to kill anybody or me or anybody else, but you never know, you know, it could be it could have malicious intent.

And there is a lot of creatures out here that we you know, we're not aware about.

You know that the I want to say the government, but just that people don't talk about because they kind of want to protect these creatures.

And if you read back, I've done a lot of research on the werewolf type deal and they the fightings go back all the way into when the Indians were on this continent, the North American continent, and you know, they had true beliefs of it.

And you know, if you if you do come and counter with one, try not.

To get scared and get a picture, because that's one thing I don't understand is we have so many deer cameras out here in the world.

I mean, there's hundreds of millions of deer cameras everywhere in the woods.

And I won't say there ain't pictures of them, but with all the AI and stuff like that, you don't know what to bleed, but you would think that there would be pictures of them everywhere.

But it's kind of like they're sneaky enough and fly enough not to get caught.

So I don't know.

I don't know, Vick.

It's just it's real weird.

And you know, I've come across your account.

Actually a guy Chris at work.

He's the one that introduced me to your account because I was telling him the story of it.

He said, you know, check out dog man Encounters on YouTube, and you could also probably get on the website and see if you could submit your story and see if you could talk to that guy.

So, but Vic, there's definitely something out here.

I mean, these people they're not just seeing nothing.

It's something.

Well, yeah, Matt, and you saw it yourself multiple times, so there definitely is some there there.

Yeah.

Had you heard about anything like a dog man being in the area before two thousand and eight when see him had that first experience.

No, which you know I was.

I was kind of young at that time as well, and you know, I've heard stories, but nothing like personal that someonney has said.

You know, hey, I've seen a werewolf out here.

You know, we had we had black panthers that we would hear as a child around the house screaming.

But if you look at our census for the animals, and you know, you ask wildlife authorities, we don't have panthers around, but we would hear them.

It kind of sounds like a woman screaming in the distance.

But that just kind of makes me think, you know, was that the dog man that I was hearing all still on growing up, because it kind of sounded like the same scream we heard that night with Tyler, but it wasn't as like womanlike as a scream we would hear around the plantation growing up.

Yeah, it's funny to think that these guys were probably in that area for as long as you've been rooming those woods.

But he never had an experience until two thousand and eight.

There, it's just a lot to wrap your head around, it really is.

It's been a while too since see him had his experiences, the first one in two thousand and eight, of course, and then he was with you when he had that second encounter that he had.

But yeah, Vick, I've been working night shift now for about five years, and I got a son, and I got a wife now, and I don't go out much no more, and I haven't been able to see Sam.

But I did call him the other day.

I didn't call him, I was texting him on his YouTube channel.

He has a YouTube channel.

He does gun reviews and stuff.

But I told him I was gonna come see him, and I didn't say nothing about the encounter, but I could guarantee you even though I haven't seen Sam in a while.

He is just as terrified today if he was when he's seen it when he was a child that night down at the Roger Sprains Dunk, just as terrified of it.

I could guarantee it, because even though like even and then, that's been what is from two thousand and eight till it was twenty twenty five, you know, I can promise you he still is terrified to this day.

And I'm gonna I'm gonna try to go to his house sometime this week.

I got a full work schedule ahead of me this week.

I'll be off Sunday, but I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get with him, and I'm gonna call you back, and I'm gonna let him tell his experience that night to you so you can hear it as well.

And like I said, and he would probably even remember other things about them nights that we've seen it too, you know, other descriptions and stuff that would be you know, it would have it would benefit you as into your investigations into the dog Man.

So I'm definitely gonna get back with you whenever I can get a hold of him.

Yeah, let me know, because i'd love to talk with him.

Sounds like he could use some help.

That's horrible that it's affecting him that way is still at the present day.

But yeah, if I can help him, I definitely will.

Now, speaking of help, how about you, It's spent a long time since you had that last encounter on the scale of one to ten, How are you doing now.

To put it on a scale to one to ten.

I mean, just the type of person I am.

I try not to show fear, but I'm still scared of it today as I was when I seen it the last time.

And I could sit there and try to sound macho and say, oh, I would try to do something different this time if I seen it like, I don't want to.

And that's one thing.

I don't want to shoot the thing either, because it's kind of like there's a there was an albino turkey in my area growing up, and I wouldn't shoot the albino turkey, and I don't want to shoot this thing.

But I would definitely want to get that hair that I have.

I want to get it, you know, analyzed, and have a test done and see what type of animal it is.

And I would just like to try to get a video of it this time, you know, a good video, just to have proof to myself, you know that this thing does exist.

So back to your question on one to ten, I'm doing great as a number ten, but also still terrified of the thing because I'm pretty sure if I seen it again, It's like this thing when it sees you, it has this way of just putting fear in you because you're raised to know that it's not right, and something that you know is not right, it's going to scare you.

And just the thought of how I know this thing can move Like that night we've seen it with Tyler, Dude, it was we were five miles down the road or so and this thing beat us there.

So I mean there's I'm defenseless against the thing, you know, like there's nothing I could do, and if it wanted to snatch me up, it could.

And you know there are disappearances, you know in the world.

People disappear.

It just makes you think, you know, it is dog man, the culprit of that or any kind of other creature, you know, because we always want to point the fingers and like maybe somebody got kidnapped or abducted or something like that.

But it could be a cryptid out of here that could kill someone and there's no trace of them.

So that's in the back of my mind, and I don't want that to happen to me.

Yeah, I definitely don't want that to happen to you either, No or what happened to know?

Yeah, that wouldn't be a good thing at all.

And they just might be responsible for a lot of the missing person cases.

They probably aren't responsible for at least some of them.

But yeah, the fact that they'll let so many people go when they could snatch them up, that counts for something.

It really does.

But having said that, Mark, we're out of time.

But I've got a ton of questions for you.

Would you be up with coming back to do a part two where I could do a Q and A with you?

Absolutely?

Yeah, And by the time we do the Q and A, I'll try to get a hold the same And ye know, Mike, Hal have some questions answer you that you have about here has the counter as well?

Oh good, Yeah, sounds like a plan.

We'll just do that then.

But having said that, thanks again so much for coming on to share those experiences with us.

I really appreciate it and of course I'll get with you to schedule that part two.

Okay, Vick, I'll braciate you having me out taking the time.

Oh you know, you're welcome.

That's what I'm here for.

Thanks again for your time, and have a great night.