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Something I've never ever talked about on camera.

It's nine to eleven.

I am from the East Coast in Boston, and you know that day that was probably one of the first first real memories that I ever had memories as when I speak on memories, we got pulled out of school.

I remember my mom looking very dishot.

I grew up next to an Air Force base in Boston, so handsome air Force base.

They were jets were just.

Scrambling over our area NonStop.

We had to get under our desks, they told our teachers made us get under our desks.

It was very very very weird, very very weird.

And in the morning I was September eleventh, two thousand and one, the world changed forever.

Almost a quarter century later, the shock kind has faded, but I don't think the questions have faded.

One bit.

For years, we've been handed, you know.

An official narrative, coordinated terrorist attack, unforeseen and unstoppable.

But when you begin to peel back the layers and sift through the evidence and listen to experts who were silenced or ignored, a much more complicated and far more unsettling picture starts to emerge.

This new ongoing series is it's hard for me, it's really really hard from total cultural at times, to do a few things.

Re examined the events of nine to eleven with an open eye, curiosity and courage.

I'll seek to investigate topics ranging from the intelligence failures or intelligence anomalies that allowed the attack to happen, claims of controlled demolition, exotic weaponry or unknown technologies including direct energy weapons via Doctor Judy Wood series, the political and geopolitical motives behind the disaster, eyewitness accounts that contradict the official narrative of the disaster, the missing rubble, unexplained heat signatures and impossible physics, the strange dreams, visions and premonitions before the attacks by the people in the surrounding area, and even the fringe connections some draw between nine to eleven, the UFO phenomena and the paranormal.

I'm not here to give you a predetermined conclusion.

I'm not here to spoon feed you the answers.

What I am here to do is to ask the questions others won't follow the evidence wherever it leads.

With that being said, I'm joined today by someone I just met nine to eleven, revisionist Or Norman.

Thank you for being here, Tyler.

Thank you for having me.

Man, it's really really cool having a discussion.

I've been following some of your content and you've had some really really interesting conversations in interesting guests with weird and wonderful things happening.

So yeah, it's really really cool talking to you today.

Yeah, this is a topic I really don't get into often.

I mean, I know it's probably you know, I I know many of the representatives that are on the secrets task for us, and this is obviously one that's up there with JFK and the UFO topic in general.

But I think I was I think I've been so.

Groomed, if you will, to see this subject or this day as taboo and to not want to talk about it for fear of whatever they might do.

Right, whether it's copyright, striking your channel, taking the video down, demonetizing you the platform, all these things together, the intelligence community has really got their finger on the pulse of of of these ideas, and it's it's scary.

How did you?

How did someone from South Africa?

And one of my first big questions about when I heard about you, because now I had been tapped to interview someone else today ethnically yesterday, and I have scrapped that interview after a friend of a mutual friend who I don't know.

I won't say it, but a mutual friend was like, dude, don't.

Do that, Like whatever, whatever, This is the people you should These are the people you should at least start talking to.

How does a guy from South Africa get involved in nine to eleven or at least the theories of what happened?

Uh?

Well, my foray into conspiracy started with most people look on nine to eleven.

I was twenty three years old when it happened, so I was already I was menders a bit getting into weird and wonderful stuff.

And my first foray into conspiracy theory was the JFK because that was one of the big things.

And then in two thousand and five, two thousand and six, YouTube came online so people could be uploading various things, and then we started just watching stuff like that.

And I'm not a guy who's into bread and circuses, so the.

Whole let's watch a football game on the weekend or things like that, I'm not interested in that.

I would rather watch a two hour documentary on some sort of conspiracy theory than waste my time with a bunch of grown men running around on a pitch.

It.

Eventually I got into the nine to eleven stuff because you had movies like September Clues in Plain Sight, Loose Change, what was the other big one that came out in New Poul Harbor, and all these various documentaries coming out, and all these guys were saying, Okay, there's something wrong with their official narrative, so yes, our take on it.

Eventually I came across Richard Gage and his famous video where he's standing with his two cardboard cutouts talking about no but the just fell way too fast with regards to it, fell fell faster than gravity in a way, and I saw that.

He's the guy who I was supposed to have.

Richard Dage is the guy who I was supposed to have one, so continue, I'm sorry.

And then I saw the third might experiments where they were able to cut still, and I thought, okay, fine, we've got architects and engineers and stuff.

These guys are looking into it.

They seem above board and they should be able to do something about it.

And I kind of like forgot about it, because that was round about two thousand and sixty thousand and seven that these guys were making a lot of noise.

By twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I again stumbled upon some nine to eleven content.

Saw a presentation given in the Netherlands in twenty twelve the Breakthrough Energy Conference, and there was this lady who who said, okay, fine, today I'm going to prove to you that the buildings turned to dust before they hit the ground.

I thought, okay, fine, this is batshit crazy, but at least I'm willing to listen to both sides of a story.

So I listened to the conversation or the presentation that she made, and she was talking about a how of a lot of anomalies and buildings that you don't normally hear about from the nine to eleven truth movement.

I basically call the nine to eleven truth movement the cult that can't count past three, because as soon as you look at the anomalies with buildings three, four, five, six, the bank is Trust building, the Greek Orthodox Church, then in essence nine buildings pretty much disappeared due to the events of that day.

And that was basically it.

I thought of, I find this lady is bringing information to the table, and if she hooks up with these architects and engineer, she's a scientist in metal and all of this, then obviously they'll be able to sort the stuff out and something should happen.

Then life went on.

Nothing really happened in the nine to eleven swear And with the twenty first anniversary, I saw a video of university students being interviewed asking what big anniversary is coming along, and they didn't know that it was the twenty first anniversary of nine to eleven.

They didn't really know what happened on nine eleven.

They didn't really know what the mainstream or the government narrative was or anything like this, And I thought, oh, how, and that kind of like made something in miss snap.

I then went into debate forums on Facebook, seeing that I'm now middle aged of us old people end up still on Facebook, and I started debating some people and I said, Okay, find these guys know a hell of a lot about either the thermite aspect or the nuke therma nuke aspect, or the buried nukes or what hellever idea that they had.

And I then just decided, Okay, find if I really want to wrap my head around this, and I.

Really want to get into conversations about nine to eleven, then I should revisit everything all the way back with a formation of Scholars for nine eleven Truth in two thousand and five.

Because that was the first organized organization that was against the government narrative, and worked my way up through twenty three years of information being put out on both sides.

So I read virtually anything and everything that I could find, watched numerous documentaries, presentations, all of that, and that then in turn got me into writing on my sub stack and then also going into the zoom eats with the organizations that have a lot of clout in America, and I just saw that they couldn't answer the questions that I had pertaining to the evidence presented that they don't talk about and that's my foray, that's where I'm now.

And if you actually spend the time of really deep diving the twenty four years of disinformation out there, you can really easily see that the whole narrative around nine to eleven, and then the truth movement that's been put into place comes into some sort of sci fi spy type novel because people were taken out, people were completely land baseded in media and all of that.

So there's a lot of noise and a lot of orchestrated quintel pro operations going on to this day.

And even the latest installment is Stucker Colson's five part series that's also absolute fantastic.

Wait wait bunk.

Yeah, there are a lot of disinformation in there.

Okay, so I want to let's start there because that is actually what lit a fire under my ass to kind of like get back into trying to figure out what happened.

Now, I will say Tucker does skate a very.

Uh yeah, like not.

All.

I guess you're right.

He doesn't really talk about too much like the other side of it, And the other side of it is the fact that if one hundred and ten stories of building supposedly came down on itself?

Where was all the fucking rubble?

Like?

Where is all the where's all the desks?

Where's all the the the the sinks?

Right?

Where?

Where is all that shit?

And it seems more like when I watched the tapes back and again, I'll get into a little bit about how I experienced that day when I got pulled out of school.

There was no Twitter, like, there was no independent voices.

What you were given was the official narrative from Fox, from CNN, from these what you what at the time, these very trusted sources, because they were the only fucking sources.

And we didn't know, or I mean some of us did.

I guess like that that the CIA controls most of these these outlets.

They have journalists embedded in probably every major TV organization and journalistic outlet.

So the the CIA version of this story.

Can you tell us at least what your understanding of the officially accepted narrative of nine to eleven is?

Well, the official narrative is two we little planes slammed into two massive buildings, and a little bit of jet fuel spilled into the building and caused major fires to weaken the steel, and then it just collapsed in a gravity driven collapse.

And if you actually look at the if you look at the way the buildings were constructed, it's absolutely fascical.

But the thing is it was such a massive trauma based event that people just outsourced their thinking to mainstream media and the government.

And what happens in a traumatic event and how does people's minds work is I want to know what happened?

So the first answer you've given on the TV and at those at that stage, people still pretty much believed in MSM and investigative journalism.

They thought that, okay, fine, these guys will give us the answers, then I don't have to think about it.

And that's how the narrative got stuck.

And in those first first weeks, it was just replayed in for people and they just said collapse, claps, colapse, colapse, clapse, collapse.

So it comes back to tell a lie, tell big enough and repeated enough, then it becomes the truth.

And that's where a lot of people got stuck.

And yeah, a lot of the same tactics are used in the UFO world, Like, so that's what I'm seeing.

It's it's it's almost like they took the playbook from the you're like what they do with people in UFOs and mass or sightings or experiences, and they it just expanded it to a large format silence anyone who disagrees deep platform them.

And at the time, the only like I said, there.

Was no Twitter, There was no like outlets where you could voice your I mean, unless you were going to make it move like loose Change, which the first time I had ever seen any conspiracy film, and that that you couldn't even get that that movie, like that movie was was they pulled it off shelves of Blockbuster.

They pulled it off shelves of video stores.

Again, this is a very very.

This is at the time, it's a very analog world.

It's we haven't quite yet got to that digital age.

So when I got home from school every day the same thing was on the TV.

It was just videos called the of the.

Planes hitting over and over and over again, collapse.

Maybe you got some videos of like the street angles, people running running and running and running from this cloud of dust that was about to overtake them, and then it does overtake them, and then they were all dusty after like anyone knows what I'm talking about.

That that was live at the time, they just played this on a on a role and that what we were told was for what Islamic.

Islamic hijackers took over several planes from United ninety three out a logan, which is where I'm at.

I think a few of them are on a logan if.

I'm not mistaken.

So the hijackers got onto the planes.

Now people have to think TSA wasn't the way it is now.

The way TSA is now is a direct result of what happened with nine to eleven.

So the hijackers overtake how many planes was it four or five?

For four four planes?

Four planes that they flight eleven into the North tower, flight one seventy five into the South tower, flight ninety three into Shanksville, and then flight seventy seven for the Pentagon.

We'll get into that one too, because that so the reason we I want to go through this in a linear way, and you'll probably end up knowing why.

Because so what they're telling us on the news is that Islamic terrorists that have either ties to Saudi Arabia or Bin Laden directly so that you can see the narratives.

Start to emerge.

Right within hours, we know who the bad guy is.

The bad guys are because we find their past.

Actually it actually wasn't in Within hours, there was a newscast to forty five seconds after the second planet the South Tower, he mentioned the Soma bin Laden and then that is what everybody ran with the whole day.

Right, Okay, so I was even quicker than I thought.

Again, I was in third grade when this happened.

I was in third grade.

So again my memory is a little foggy when it comes.

I'm trying to like piece together everything in my in my head, but I remember, all of a sudden, they have the passports, so like so nothing survives, but we just so happened to have the past sports of the paper passports.

The passport was actually picked up picked up.

Before that, the buildings disintegrated, and this.

Is the They're like, this is fucking crazy to me, because how the you're going to tell me that jet fuel was now when when the this is what at least how I understand it as the official narrative, plane hits at like the one oh five level maybe no, no, maybe, so anything above them you're fucked at that point.

I mean, I mean, you're just anything above you're fucked.

But the jet fuel was so hot that it melts the beams at that height, and then that's what causes the pancaking right.

All the way, all the way down eighty floors to the bottom come.

It's ridiculous that anybody can actually believe that.

And they actually have a video with thermal is showing that there was what seemed to be hot spots at the impact sites and nowhere else.

So again that just proves that it wasn't too hot for the building to handle.

And then so the structure itself, the World Trade Center, was it not constructed to withstand.

They are planes hitting towers that had happened before it had happened, I believe.

In a part state building ninety fifties or forties somewhere.

Yeah, super foggy day, plane hits a building, nothing happens.

I mean the of course something happens, but the tower doesn't collapse on itself in what looked.

But also also pieces of that bomber fell to the ground next to the building and they picked it up in the streets.

You didn't see that plane didn't just melt into the building like a hot knife through butter.

Nothing fell to the ground.

Right, and you would expect the worst of it would have been maybe like an engine block, an engine coming down and like smashing onto like a hundred people.

That would be fun.

That would be terrible.

But at that height, coming from that that that heavy, that that height, I mean, it's it's like, uh, that would have been terrible in itself.

But the way the building comes down now it never struck me as weird because I was so young, right, but the building comes down, you couldn't have You couldn't have staged that better, for absolute if when you really look back at it, and you really look at the collapse of the two towers, and of course there's so much other stuff that we have to get into, but when you look at that, you couldn't have happened.

It could not have happened any cleaner in the way it fell.

And then with what I mean, everything looks dustified.

There's there's obviously rubble at ground zero, but I remember they had fences that were twelve feet tall with that green stuff in between it, so you couldn't see into ground zero.

I went to ground zero with my father, uh.

He owned a moving company, and we went there about a year later and I'm not saying within a year you couldn't see into what was happening, like what what what what Ground zero looked like?

And if I'm not mistaken, I've tried to look back now.

Those fences went up pretty fucking quickly.

They didn't want people to.

Know what what, what.

It looked like what they were pulling out, So it was a big mystery.

But the side the site was actually locked down on September thirteenth and no no video, no camera, no civilians were allowed anywhere near ground zero so that the guys could contry the narrative going out.

Because even at September twelve, when people were still allowed to go there, the main question was on ABC.

I think it was Peter Jennings or somebody who basically mentioned, okay, the main question that everybody has is why is there so little rubble?

Because something that people need to realize, there's three differences when it comes to buildings.

A building can collapse a gravity collapse like we saw in Miyan mob where you can see the levels of the building as it's done at pancake collapse so you can see the various flaws.

Then you've got a Then you've got to control demolition using kinetic or thermal mechanisms or whatever.

And when they blow a building to bits, you end up with a rubble pile.

On average that is twelve and a half percent of the original building height.

So if you calculate twelve and a half percent of one hundred and ten, that gives you thirteen point seventy five floors.

And if you look at the after pictures on September twelve, and even on September eleven, when the helicopterwer flying flying over ground zero, the rubble pile for the North Tower, and the North Tower was positioned right next to Building six.

Building six is an eight story building.

Yeah, right there.

On the left you've got Building six, and on the right you've got what is the remnants of the North Tower where sixteen people survived in that clump of rubble, and that.

If you look at the if you look at the building itself or the outer shell of the tower, you will see that there are bigger spacings at the.

Bottom part and the top part is a lot closer, and that's the lobby height.

That's three stories.

These guys here are on ground level.

So ten fours are theoretically missing.

Yeah, ten floors are missing.

And geez again the people who would like to sell you on a conventional control demolition what they staid, Yes, that's a beautiful, beautiful picture because right in the background you've got the remnants of Building seven.

Building seven again, do your twelve and a half percent on the forty seven stories it was, and the rubble pile there was only three stories are instead of around about six and a half or seven that you would expect.

And Building six itself, that hole in the middle of it was empty.

It was It was like a cookie cutter where you just scooped out the middle of it.

And right next to the North Tower and the South Tower you had a twenty two story Marriott Hotel, the Building three, and pretty much everything of that building disappeared in except a small little block of it.

And fourteen people survived in that building as well.

And that's something that the nine to eleven truth movement don't really talk about because it completely blows their narrative out of the water because if it was thermite and bombs and all of that kind of stuff, these sixteen survivors in the North Tower would have even been deafened.

They would have got burned by the thermite flashes.

They could have been blinded by bright flashes going off and all of this, and the statements that they made is when the building was unraveling, they heard a sound of a freight train coming at them.

They don't mention anything about hearing big explosions or loud booms or anything.

And I would suggest anybody who wants to deep dive and hear the testimonies of these guys who survived it is look for the two thousand and six documentary The Miracle of Stairwell, be that and just listened to what they explained.

They explained that they were inside this building, they heard the rumble, they heard the sound of a freight train coming at them, they felt a levitation effect, and then everything went dark.

All of a sudden, it went silent.

The next moment the they saw array of sunlight coming through.

Now imagine this, you were on the sixth floor of one hundred and ten story building five hundred thousand tons, you expecting to be stuck in there for weeks for them to get rid of all the rebel.

In the next moment, you see a ray of sunlight coming out and then around about an hour or two later, the guys free you from where you are and there's nothing above.

You, nothing in sunlight.

Yeah, and that's.

Huh so one hundred and four stories above her the right, that's what they're saying is one hundred and whatever floors above her come down.

But they survive it.

And not only did they survive it, but they're out within a couple hours of of the of the actual attack.

And if I don't remember, I mean, Jesus Christ, a hurricane, I'm not a hurricane.

An earthquake in Nepal trap people in a hotel for for like two days.

They couldn't get them out, and that's like a ten ten story hotel, and that is really bizarre.

I never thought about that.

So they felt it a lavitating of that.

Yeah, there was a huge, massive wind.

And the one gentleman that has testified about this numerous times, and you can find many interviews with him is the F and D Y firefighter Mickey Cross, And they even interviewed him last year with the twenty fourth anniversary where he recounts it again, and what he basically states is when he heard the rumbling, he just curled up into a small ball and the next moment, he felt his his helmet starting to lift off, and he basically pulled it down and just crunched down into a small little ball and just said, okay, fine, if I die now, it's got to be quick.

He's the gentleman that's talked about it.

But there's another gentleman and his name is sorry, he's he All.

I might be getting the pronunciation wrong, but Pascal Bouschelly, also known as the nine to eleven Surfer, and this gentleman was coming down in stairwell B from the eighty fourth floor, and somewhere in the fortieth forties they met They found a firefighter coming up in the stairwell.

The firefighter said, okay, guys, when you get to the twenty third floor, there is a lift that's still working, so you can take that lift and go down.

And the people with him from his office, they just kept going down, going down.

When they got to the twenty third floor, they said, oh, we're going to take the lift.

They said no.

They went down another floor.

When they got to the twenty second all of a sudden, that's when the building started shaking and rumbling.

The people with him ran into the twenty second floor, and he decided to jump down to the next ledge in the stair well and he called up into a small little ball and he then said, well, you've got this rumbling, it's the sound of a freight train coming at me.

In the next moment, I just started falling through the air and he ended up landing on a ledge that was run about three four stories high.

And when he woke up, and you've got to remember, he's on the twenty second floor, and when he woke up and you looked up, there was blue sky above him and it was kind of like trapped on the spirch where he was.

The guys had to bring ladders and ropes and everything to get him out of there, and he had a broken ankle.

And I call that when Yeah, at eight o'clock that night, he got home to his pregnant wife and they've actually got a video.

I think it's a brother that was there that video, Pascal being delivered via it's actually to the house.

And it took him a number of years to work through the strauma because he's the only guy out of his whole whole office that survived.

So you can you can go look for a great interview it's an hour and a half interview with him and his wife.

I think it was published on YouTube in twenty twenty three and you'll be able to find it.

So and then numerous interviews with him.

I think he also wrote a book.

So just search nine to eleven Surfer or nine to eleven miracle Man to his testimony as well.

He's one of two civilians along with fourteen first first responders that survived in the North Tower.

Why, Okay, I guess the looming the looming question has to be no matter what now, I don't let's I kind of want to like grow past the idea of the how it happened, but the why why, if the official narrative is to be believed, why didn't the FBI or the CIA or anyone, I mean Conda Lieza Rice sends a memo on August ninth saying that Ben Lauden is going to try us to like we know, not only all of the hijackers, but John Brennan, the CIA director, brought them here and then let them go back, go back and forth because he wanted people on the inside of al Qaeda.

Right, So if we're to believe the official narrative, Why does this happen?

Is it just to bring us into a war and a twenty year war with Afghanistan for because we're told they have weapons of masterstr I mean, it's all fucking doesn't make sense to me.

Why did why?

The why?

Look, look, everybody wants to jump to the wy, but we've got to remember none to eleven was a crime that was committed, and you've got to start any criminal investigation and you've got to really understand what happened in order to get over to how it happened and then why it happened and what the motivation was.

And a lot of people want to jump to that the why, and there's a lot of people who've pretty much sorted out the why, but the biggest contentious issue is what actually happened and the technology that was put into play, because it was a demonstration to people in the know that Hi, guys, we've got this, we've we're doing this on live TV and the whole world is too stupid to even realize what we've just done.

Okay, And that's what I was going to say.

Is it plausible that.

Because the way I've always been taught to investigate something, or you got two sides of the story, right.

The truth is somewhere in between.

So we got the official narrative, right, the narrative they want us to believe.

Right, planes definitely fucking hit the building unless they have some way of hologram faking, I mean, which I wouldn't put it past them.

Like we know, the technology does exist today, didn't exist in twosan and one.

I don't know.

So could they have figured out, oh shit, they're about to fucking they're about to hit these towers with some planes and they're about to so they know they the intelligence community finds out all this shit, right CIA Alex Station, the memo August ninth, They know it's about to happen, but they step back and they let it happen.

For I mean, we see that that stock options were taken out, you know people, it's it's if you start looking at that the finances right follow the money kind of thing.

Dick Cheney's were missing trillions of.

Dollars the next day nine to eleven app So if you look at all that, could the intelligence community have said, Okay, it's gonna happen.

We're gonna let it happen, and we might even might even help it.

Yeah, well we might even help it.

With the director jennyg Weapon, make sure that those fucking towers come down.

If they're gonna hit them, make it count.

And that seems to me like maybe what happened.

It's a little bit of a mix of both.

In a way.

Look, nine to eleven wasn't planned over a weekend.

It was a couple of decades in the making.

And if there's one particularly very well researched documentary that you should watch, which I state is your crash course into nine to eleven, and that's nine to eleven Alchemy Facing Reality because it goes into all the various technologies UFO links all of that and showing you the patents that the US Navy's got, the CIA, the FBR, all of that.

And where I'm really disappointed in the UFO field is that none of them, and this is Stephen Greer, Mike Burrow, a whole bunch of different guys in the UFO field are gas lighting the followers, the supporters, and they pretty much defrauding their supporters out of their donations, just like the nine to eleven Truth movement is doing.

Because when you really deep dive and going to the go onto sub stacks search for nine eleven planes research.

This is a gentleman out of the UK who's gotten all the Foyer requests pertaining to the the NTSB, the f all that kind of stuff.

And when you really deep dive into the planes, you would find that all four planes or alleged planes that crashed that day were still in the air after they allegedly crashed.

And it was not CGI, and it was not anything remote controlled drones, it was not switched planes or anything.

It was three D volumetric projection technology that was in play that the Navy has got patent's going back all the way to the nineteen seventies, and a lot of the UFO guys, especially this year, have been changing their narratives where they are now bringing in the what if the UFOs we see are actual holograms and nine to eleven alchemy facing reality puts it nicely into play with all the patents, the various articles that were written as far back as two thousand and one pertaining to the Navy and the US military wanting to have some sort of holographic projection that they could use in the Middle East to project a picture of allah and have their adversaries run away.

And once you look and study basic flight physics, you will find that a commercial jet, even a military plane that's painted to look like a plane or adrona what cannot fly at the speeds that was recorded on nine to eleven without breaking up.

It is impossible for plane to fly, or a commercial sized jet to fly at six hundred miles per hour at about seven hundred feet.

And your real world example to understand that and see that is on November twelve, two thousand and one, you had flight five eight seven out of New York crash in New York in New York City because it got stuck behind some turbulence of a plane in front of it.

It started flying flying to the guy tried to overcorrect and he broke up the tail tail section of the plane.

As soon as that's gone, the plane falls out of the sky due to the thickness of the air and the molecules it ripped off the engines of the plane and they actually hit the ground before the planes.

Even the impact dynamics of flight one seventy five, because there's so much the video on that, up to fifty five of them, it just shows impossible physics with regards to that, and a number of pilots came out and talked about the fact that what we saw that day is impossible.

But people took pictures, they took video, they saw it, and they heard it.

But it was a real time illusion.

So the UFO guys who've been waiting for Project Bluebeam all these years to happen after Serge among Us talked about this in the seventies, well, guys, you all saw it on nine to eleven.

You guys just don't want to talk about it.

See you're saying that those planes didn't exist, really.

And there's actual government proof from the eties B in the FIA proving all four planes were still in the air well passed the alleged impact times.

All the receipts are on nine to eleven Planes Research substack, and a lot of the work that's gone into nine to eleven Alchemy facing Reality is in that documentary from nine to eleven Planes Research.

Official documents that have been released over the last twenty four years.

I can't even wrap my head around that.

But we saw it on TV, and it's got to be true.

It's got to be true, right, gotta be true.

We saw I watched it happen.

It's not so probably, dude, I called, I made a fuck.

I was a paperboy at the time.

I clipped I have somewhere at my parents house, at my dad's house, I should say, Mom's no longer with us.

I cut out every single front page of the paper, like every single day and put it in a scrap book.

God damn, that probably would be worth.

Some worth, will be some with some bucks.

Man.

Yeah, I mean those are like legitimate but okay, so holy shit, I've never heard anyone say that in my life.

So no.

Wait, Actually there was a gentleman called Dr Morgan Reynolds.

He's still alive.

I had an interview with him on the fourth of July this year.

You can go on to his website, No More Games dot Net and interview him please, because he's the only man that has actually taken the government to court stating that the Nest impact plane studies of bullshit.

And John Leah you might have heard of John Lea May He wrote a for David stating everything that was wrong with official narrative.

Our plane can't fly that fast, how the impact dynamics is complete and utter bunk.

And he basically breaks it down for you for anybody with a working brain that's not going to fall back onto their cognitive dissonance or playing the game of pre co of just just not wanting to look at the evidence, and they explain it.

But unfortunately Dr Morgan Reynolds when he came out with that in two thousand and seven, he got ostracized by the nine to eleven Truth movement.

So if you go on if you want to support Architects for an Engineer Truth with the Richard Gage and his cronies, if you go onto their petition, they've got vetting processes on there that states that two of the main vetting processes is the person is not allowed to mention anything about no planes and the person is not allowed to mention anything about doctor Judy Wood.

Because when you sign up, you give them your name, surname, phone number, and your email address and then they go search your online history and then decide whether or not you're good enough to be on the group.

And when you go into the little echo chambers and you want to mention something like this, you immediately get get kicked out.

Also, when it gets to the evidence of doctor Wood, she's been on an official blocklist on Wikipedia since twenty ten.

Now, Wikipedia is one of the biggest CIA, Mossad, whatever intelligence agency out there who wants to control some sort of narrative will make sure that they've got their disinfo on there.

But one person who's not allowed there is Dr Wood.

You can go on to any nine to eleven truther with Wikipedia page, go insert some links to her website or write about information, and that will be scrapped within ours.

That's crazy, that's crazy.

So Judy would doctor Judy Wood is, let's talk about some of these people.

Who is Richard Gage?

Well, why would he have any expertise in this?

Well, his whole story is he was driving down the road and then he heard some sort of guy on coast to coast radio talking about how the government narrative isn't correct, and he was mentioning something about buildings evident that all of a sudden gave him the whole wuha that he's now got to get into this.

But we've got to rewind a bit because in two thousand and five, the first organization, and that was started by a gentleman called Jim Fetzer and Stephen E.

Jones Stephenie Jones was a nuclear physicist or something like that.

Brigham and Young University, worked at Los Alamos Labs and all of this kind of stuff.

These two guys started Scholars for Nine to eleven Truth in two thousand and five, and then they roped in a whole bunch of scholars and people looking into nine to eleven and it was a sort of a honeypot, if you can call it back, like Stephen Grier's disclosure project, so that they could keep tabs on all the movers and shakers and people who might be able to blow the lid off of the cover up.

And then what happened is Stephenie Jones came with this whole little thermi dust sample study of his and Dr Wood basically told him no, but and they had it to and fro Stephen Jones would write a paper stating something, and then Dr Wood would write a counter paper to that, and that's when the mud slinging kind of thing started and force, and by two thousand and six, Scholars for nine eleven Truth kind of like disbanded.

Dr Wood met Dr Morgan Reynolds and a bunch of other people and they decided can find these guys have got some sort of weird agenda.

And by two thousand and seven, Dr Wood found a solicitor and Dr Morgan Reynolds founder a solicitor, and they each submitted a quest for correction tost on the net report, stating that the National Institute for Standards, the main body that investigated what happened at the World Trade Center now was tasked with figuring out why the buildings collapsed.

But in the ten thousand paget report, they only cover the events after the airplane shaped holes were created and up to the initiation of collapse.

So the whole Nest report as it stands is fraudulent because it never explained what happened, and that's what they were tasked to do.

So doctor Morgan Reynolds and doctor Woods saw the mistakes that were made in these reports and they submitted a request for correction that kind of like made them whistleblowers from there under the Data Information Act because it was fraudulent data that they were giving the people.

They could then sue the subcontractors, the twenty three subcontractors who were writing these reports, and doctor Wood took it as far as the US Supreme Court.

She initially filed in two thousand and seven, but it was under seal, so she couldn't advertise or talk about it in public.

And about a month or two after she initially submitted her q TIM whistleblower case, then all of a sudden, Architects for Engineered Truth's website popped up and they were talking about thermite, molten metal and all of this kind of stuff that's their main selling points.

They too ended up submitting a request for correction to NEST, but there was no mention of thermite or molten metal in their request for correction.

So that already is a very very important point because to this day this is still what they talk about right now.

After they all of a sudden popped up.

Then in two thousand and nine, doctor who went to the US Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court judge basically an intimation said, look, you've got merit here or whatever, but I'm not going to listen to your case.

So that's what this U Supreme Court can do.

They can or can't listen to your stuff.

But that it wasn't dismissed on due to merit because it had merit.

But the guy basically stated that look like, I'm not going to listen to this because this is like, yeah, directed and knows about this, I mean.

And at that stage they will remember.

It was a major thing in the media where the guys basically said that anybody that dares question the official government narrative is is a prior to to to the memory of the people that lost their lives.

It was such a psychological operation even that was carried through the media by how dare you question the government?

We won't lie to you how And and that is also that was so powerful out of the slogan never forget what should you not forget?

Not forget the trauma, because that's what they based it on.

And once you you can separate yourself from that trauma, then then it's a lot easier.

And that's why you'll find that a lot of the people who look into nine to eleven, who write books about it or aren't American because we are not so emotionally invested in it.

We weren't so traumatized because of it, because Amber, do you know what they.

Had us do every single day for like everything, I might be I don't know exactly how long it went on every single day at nine to eleven am.

We would have to stand in school for a moment of silence and in remembrance, little little kids, little fucking kids in third grade, in third grade, I mean in kindergarten.

They were doing it too, they were.

It has all the makings of some sort of psychological operation.

When you stand back, they're repeating the same narrative.

Anyone who questions that narrative as alsostrized, right, and you and you're fundamentally bleeding it into the minds of those like those people like myself who even though I talk about UFOs, I talk about uh, directed energy weapons, I talk about the government conspiracy, no one wants to link it all together and say, wait a second, Huh that seems odd.

Same exact fucking thing.

And I'm the disclosure project happens a month or two before.

Nine to eleven, right, that they wrangle up all these people who have all this knowledge.

Uh.

And and then you start putting the dates together, and you're like, wait a second, but does something doesn't just something doesn't add up here.

It has all the makings of a psychological operation.

Repeat discredit, repeat discredit, right, and then we're in a We're in a twenty year war where we're American, where people were so pissed, people were so fucking pissed, so angry, so scared that they gave up some of their rights with the Patriot Act, and they had their eighteen year old boys signing up to go fight a war against people We had no fucking idea that were involved.

Yeah, So what why that?

The why is?

What does it for me?

It actually me it makes my blood boil.

Well, I'm sorry to tell you this, but the way that the rest of the world looks at America, you guys are the terrorists.

You guys are the guys with this bloody ego going in everywhere, causing shit where you're not welcome or don't have a fighting the whole aspect, and it was all about about power and control.

And you guys were also used to advance the interest of a certain little place.

Yeah, and it's been now open opened up as well.

Now also at that stage America was was was on the looming into a recession as well.

And unfortunately, America's economy is very reliant on your war machine.

Because if the war machine isn't ticking over so many, so many industries are going to see their asses.

Absolutely, I can absolutely agree with that.

And how many thousands of people are are employed by by the military or or subcontractors building weapons, building the clothes, the shoes, the the tanks to this that that that it's okay, I mean just thumbsuck.

Maybe a quarter of of of of the the country is dependent on on on the U S war machine.

Yeah yeah, And when that is not, like you said, when that's not turning profits, not being made profit is the bottom line, and it's it's I think it's just fucking wild to think that that's some sort of false flag operation happened, right, right, not just happened, but happened in the heart of the United States, New York City, right, the city that never the fucking city keeps feed me an ambient jay Z right whatever.

But it seems like we're all given some ambient that day and just made to to forget what happened because it was so psychologically traumatic watching it over and over and over and over.

It just made people angry and just also probably wasn't fun to be a Musslim in the United States in two.

But also at the same time is the thing is just imagine in your city where where you live.

What is the biggest building or the tallest building in.

Your city or the John Hancock Building.

Okay, how many floors?

Ah, Jesus, probably only like sixty to sixty to eighty maybe.

Okay, So next time you there, go stand next to that building and look up, and then again imagine that building without use explosions or major flashes of light from thermite.

Because remember, go and watch any little video of a thermite.

Thermite, it's a experiment.

It's usually like a cup of thermite, and it makes such a huge fire show.

Imagine the calculations that the guys have given is you would need twenty nine thousand metric tons of thermite for each tower to sever the columns.

Now that's going to be one hell of a fucking fire show.

Dude.

Oh we didn't see any bright light or flashes, and we didn't hear any loud booms going down New Year rumbling with that building.

Now just go stand next to that eighty story building and just imagine this thing is going to unravel in less than ten seconds.

That is that is new physics.

That's new physics.

That how did the building come down.

Between nine and twelve seconds?

That's that.

No, no, no, a hour after they were hit.

But the physical disintegration of the buildings was between nine and twelve seconds.

And if you if you stood on top of one of the twin towers and you dropped the bowling ball, it would take twelve seconds to hit the ground.

And those buildings disappeared faster than that.

No fucking way.

Yeah.

Wow, So let me ask you, let me ask you a question.

How far up does this go?

Dick Cheney Bush, Yeah, Dick Cheney.

It's a real mixed mix and match.

Dick Cheney obviously knew something about it, and and the bunch of other guys were were tossed with with covering it up the whole, the whole dancing Israeli's.

They are Patsy's to push push.

The okay for anyone who doesn't know, Yeah, for anyone who doesn't know.

Lady she sees a bunch of a bunch of people kind of like celebrating, and the FBI picks that van up.

About five hours later, they arrest the people.

They find out that they're all all Israeli.

Yeah, they're all Israeli, and they have connections to intelligence.

And they were they were arrested, they were held for a short while and they were carded out back to Israel.

So what are you saying that that is they were patsies?

Just they your nine to eleven Lee Harvey Oswald to give you a narrative with regards to that, because if you go back into the the Israeli Israeli art students as well, and the name gelatine when you you do a little bit of deeper research into a gelatine is another name that that's given for for the stuff that they use for holographic projection as well.

So that's why I say go and watch nine eleven Alchemy Facing Reality, because it goes through all of this.

Why would if everybody is going on about Israel edit Israel that Israel did, why would they still be articles about these Israeli art students on the New York Times that was written at that time.

They would basically take take it away.

It's it's it's a narrative.

You've got to think of it this way.

Do you think the people that planned nine to eleven forgot to plan a cover up?

Now?

Then what would that cover up look like?

And if you read doctor Wood's book or listen to some of the presentations.

She basically mentions that what they did is they orchestrated this, and then obviously they left some easter eggs for researchers to find, and that would be enough to keep people up to a certain point and think, okay, fine, now we've got an explanation and they won't go any deeper.

It's exactly the same with old Lucky Larry that had these little breakfast at the top of of the towers every day with his tenants.

And he was on the phone with Nettanyo every Sunday and he was called up and said, hey, man, don't you want to buy the twenty towers because the Port Authority is looking for somebody to get become the new tenant.

And he then borrowed like ten million dollars from somewhere to put a down payment on it, and then a couple of weeks later he got a nine to eleven happened and he had a paid day or four and a half billion dollars.

But he mentioned that in that one interview where he was talking about, yeah, we had to pull the people out of Building six.

So now everybody's going on it must be a controlled demolition.

But there's a very important anomaly with Building seven that does not get mentioned by anybody.

What is that?

Okay, let's do do it?

Well?

Hold on, hold on, hold on, because I did, I did.

I did.

Just write something down and circle it.

If I'm not mistaken where the World Trade Centers were, where it stood the water, there's a there's essentially.

A dam right there.

Right there's the Hudson River.

So so if one hundred and ten stories of building came down on that, you'd expect what the dam to break right now.

They built they built a bathtub around the two twin towers because they needed to go down.

I wasn't that affected precisely.

The thing is also Building six, next to the north tower was an eighth story building that had that cookie cut out of it.

And when the controlled demolition guys came in to start clearing the rubble, the guys were too afraid to use explosives because they were afraid that they're going damaged the bathtub retaining wall that keeps the water of the Hudson River out of it.

So they were actually used cables to pull the remnants of that building down.

So if you want to talk about pull it.

The real pullet of nine to eleven was Building six, because Lucky Larry just dropped that little thing in there to have people think about it.

Now, Building seven.

If you look at something like the Seattle Kingdome controlled demolition that was done a number of years ago.

That building weighed one hundred and fifty thousand tons, and when that controlled demolition happened, it registered a two point three on the rector scale.

Okay, so how that seismic activity.

So that and with seismic activity, and in a seismograph, when the wave comes in, they basically record what is a S wave and a P wave primary wave and a secondary wave.

Now on nine to eleven, for the Twin Towers and Building seven, there were no S or P waves.

They only registered surface waves.

A surface wave is a wave meaning that a weight was lifted.

You can imagine a mattress, the old time mattresses with the springs and it two people are lying on top of it.

Now one person gets off.

You can feel that disturbance as if the weight was removed.

Now, building the Seattle Kingdom one hundred and thirty thousand tons left a two point four.

People at a Taylor Swift concert jumping up and down registered at two point three and twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four somewhere are you fucking Building seven?

And Seattle Kingdom was about twenty stories.

Now, Building seven was forty seven stories and it weighed two hundred and thirty thousand tons, So that's one hundred thousand tons more than the Seattle Kingdome that registered two point four.

What did Building seven register?

I would I would, of course, I would say probably in the three or fours, right, don't you think what did it register?

Zero point six?

So you're telling me that a Taylor Swift concert caused more seismic activity than Building seven coming down.

And the two towers, because the one tower registered at two point one and the other tower registered at two point three, there.

Was nothing slamming to the ground.

The most of those towers turned to dust before they hit the ground.

And if you really look at the slow mo of some of those beams falling down, and what you think is dust or smoke or whatever trailing behind it, it's actually a dust.

But of that physical solid metal falling to the ground, turning to dust before it hits the ground, that is metal transmutation in real time, because I don't know how well you know the layout of the World Trade Center.

So if you look at the picture of the World Trade Center layout, you will see North Tower, South Tower, and it had the Thompsons Square and in the middle of the square there was a twenty foot twenty seven foot high swear in the middle of that plaza.

And that swear was not buried under any rubble.

Now keep in mind, twelve and a half percent for control demolition for one hundred and ten story building should give you thirteen point seven stories.

Number one, those two rubble piles were missing, the basements went filled with rubble, and then you're that twenty seven foot high swear in the plaza was not covered by any debris whatsoever.

And it's been repurposed and it's still in New York.

What the fuck it?

What the fuck happened on September eleventh.

Dude?

It sci fi, man, it's sci fi.

Yeah, So you've got you've got the wall trades and ran about where the tea of Trade Centers is where the twenty seven foot high swear was.

So guys like Richard Gage and everything one want to sell you the fact that No, both the towers were blown to bits with explosives and everything was ejected laterally twenty six hundred feet in all directions.

So obviously that swear isn't further than six hundred feet away, and you can actually see the rubble around it is not even higher than that swear.

Right, which again it just does not add up literally does.

Not difficult for people to just compute that.

Right.

So, and we know we know that false flags have been done before.

This is not a new concept, right.

Us, This liberty, pul harbor, golfer, World War to all of that.

So, okay, if you if you're what you're saying is true or what what the what's the message here?

Because the United States used a direct energy weapon?

So and we know that Tesla had worked on something like this the FBI.

When Tesla dies, they raid his They raid his hotel because he was staying in a hotel I believe in New York.

Right.

Yeah, Uh, the person that raids his hotel is Trump's fucking grand great great grandfather whatever.

Trump trumps Trumps, Trump's uncle John Trump or something like that was the guy who was sent by the US government to go look through his papers to see if there's anything of interest.

But what Tesla also did in nineteen forty three before he died or whatever.

He ended up sending blueprints for this weapon of his to numerous countries so that nobody's got the upper hand.

And he was actually helping the US government, not directly because they didn't want to be associated with him, and he had an assistant that was working with them, and the government ended up giving the assistant a lab, so Tesla would feed the information to his assistant, the assistant would create all the stuff in his lab and sell that off to the US military.

There's a gentleman, doctor Andrea Pruvvushka that people just need to go on to my substack and just search the under my archive search for Tesla.

I've got the whole time frame there with how he sent his technology to various people, and how the US military worked with him, and then the interview with this this guy who was writing his autobiography, and he also had the papers of Nicola in his hand and and facilitated that his papers be released from the US to to Hungary sort of can go to the Tesla museum there in his in his native country as well.

Okay, Now, whether Tesla was just a genius and and came up with this death ray, this this directed energy weapon on his own, I think other people have suspected that maybe you know, an alien, non human intelligence, you know, at least sparked the idea in him.

And we see them through a lot of genius, right they they whether it's through thought experiment or some of them.

Most people like musicians, some you know, they they'll just go out and say it like the idea came, It's coming through me, through me, and I'm just the quote unquote vessel.

Yes, so, and we look at the muse the root word of music or amusement, right, and we start putting all this together now, regardless whether it's reverse engineered alien technology, right or just advancements and human technology through whatever means possible.

People had premonitions of planes hitting the building, and we want to talk about this idea of Project Blue Beam, right.

Do you think that that that might have been influenced as because a lot of people in the surrounding area of New York City reported having dreams premonitions of planes hitting the towers.

Could that be a result of these directed energy weapons and this idea of blue being being able to trick people through literally like affecting their thoughts.

Do you think that there's a possibility that the United States government or however, the deep state, whoever the fuck you want to call it, did that on purpose.

Well, there was was predictive programming with the Lone Gunman around about two months or three months before that, with the pilot episode with with the plane hitting the hitting the twin towers and all of that.

So there's been a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot has been written on on on predictive programming.

And all of that.

So these part of that, they might be people with the six things that dreamed about that possible.

But the technology that they used that day was some some sort of three D predict three D projection technology.

And that's what what John Lee also taught about, because he mentioned that the guys have had that technology for a very long time.

He was talking about a presentation that was given where a gentleman was in an auditorium talking about the history of television, walked around between the people and all of that, and by the end of the talk he said, well, thank you for having me, and he was switched off and he just disappeared and the people couldn't even realize that this guy walking next to them it was a hologram.

And that's how good it was.

And if you go back to two thousand and eight during the Obama presidential race, counting the votes or something, they actually had a holographic projection being done by CNN, and they actually dumbed down the version that they showed on the TV because people would have freaked out about how lifelike it could be, so they made it look like the Star Wars little three D hologram in those stages.

And you've got to keep in mind that the Black Ops technology and recess that those guys do that's so ortmentalized is forty to fifty y is ahead of what gets dripped fed to us plibs.

And it's not even in the physics books that your physics teacher today would have because a lot of those.

And that's how entrenched this hidden technology is.

May it may be reversed, engineered, it might just be stuff that guys have thought about.

Remember, I don't know, do you know about the nineteen fifty one Invention Secrecy Act?

No?

But I mean continue.

Nineteen fifty one Invention Secrecy Act was put into plags after the Second World War because the government was afraid that you would have some sort of tinkerer create something that could be either bought by a foreign entity or whatever and then weaponized, or somebody could invent something that could be detrimental to the status quo, like somebody inventing a carburetor for his sky in nineteen seventy two that will give you what one hundred miles to the gallon, and then the guy ended up committing suicide by shooting himself twice in the back of the head.

Or Stanley Myers with his water powered car, numerous other guys and even you should know Thomas E.

Bearden, Lieutenant Colonel Thomas E.

Bearden, and he was a big proponent of free energy devices and all of that, and he went around talking to inventors and he tried to patent a bunch of his stuff, and everything was then just anything free energy is deemed popitual motion.

So anything deemed potential motion does not get approved by the US Patent Office.

And that's why it's so difficult sometimes seized from big power.

It's either you know, because the patent Office, I think you know, I think they sees.

I can't remember the number, but it's an absurd amount of anything haveing pertaining to free energy.

It's either seized and then you can once it sees under an Apple security tag, they just blacked.

They shelve it, and you and the inventor is only allowed to do business with the US government at that point.

Right, we've got over six thousand patents.

So buggy going, bugger going to the area fifty one to see what's going on there.

Repeal the nineteen fifty one invention secrecy acting, show us those six thousand paintings.

Who so they weaponized the patent office.

They've got this.

This seems to be like you said, this one was not planned over a weekend.

No, they seem to.

So again, how do you deploy a direct energy weapon?

Guys like Eric Hecker, for instance, who talk about we have this passive and not just passive, but this this weapon array in the Antarctic at the at the South Pole station, and it caused an earthquake in two thousand and eight when they flipped it on.

If you can now ask him, ask him why.

After I asked him on his on his X about Hurricane eron, why is not talking about that or the work of doctor Wood.

Why immediately blocked me?

I will ask him that, I will.

I will.

He's the only guy I've ever heard about talk about like knowing where one of these things are.

So if we're going to go on that route, where was where was this direct energy weapon deployed from?

Was it space?

Okay, let's go back to after the dust settled.

There were two US military contractors that were put into place to run the security of Ground zero, and they locked down Ground zero from September thirteen, and they also wrote the reports that made up to ten thousand page instruct These two companies are r A and SIAC, and one of the companies also rebranded to Lidose.

And these guys special in psychological operations, they impact dynamics, weather research, and then also components of directed energy weapons.

And the one company was also tasked with knowing at that stage of any other country who's got weapons of mass destruction.

And these are two main or two of the main defendants, and doctor Judywood's q TWAN case and then also doctor Morgan's Reynolds q TAM whistle blowercase, and those two companies are part and parcel of a organization that was established in the late nineteen nineties called the Directed Energy Professional Society.

One of the other founding members of this or contributors to their fund is Boeing, and Boeing does hell a lot of research into directed energy weapons as well.

And this year the Directed Energy Weapon Professional Society had a seminar in the same week as nine eleven.

They do it every year in the week of nine eleven, and they actually stated that the Directed Energy Weapon Department or people, it's a nine billion dollar industry and they've got up to I think ten thousand or seven thousand people employed in research of directed energy weapons.

Jesus, it's been around for a very long time.

And even in nineteen eighty five there was a CNN investigative report on our IF Weaponry, radio frequency weaponry and stuff where Colonel Tom E.

Bearden was showing satellite pictures of the Soviets that were seemingly doing tests on some sort of weaponry that he said was like focusing energy on a distant point or even being able to extract it from a different point.

And the satellite pictures that he showed were from nineteen seventy seven, and when you look at those satellite pictures, it looks a lot like the satellite pictures that you got off the ISS on nine to eleven itself.

And whilst we're talking about the ISS, is that the one colonel who was on the ISS whilst they were circumventing the Earth and he was taking videos, he basically said, live on air, look, I'm looking down at New York City and I'm looking up and down the east coast to see if I can see something else.

But you kind of like forgot to mention that there was a hurricane the size of KATRINOI even bigger than that, five hundred miles off the coast of New York City, and that Hurricane Erin was making a beeline for New York for four days straight and people hardly knew about There was an underreporting of this hurricane.

And you know, out of experience, if a hurricane is approaching, the news agencies have a field day still living.

But Jesus out of people with regards to that, and that hurricane actually affected New York on September tenth, where there was a major electrical storm in New York City.

So it was a thunderstorm and all of that, and then the cool fron moved in and Hurricane Erin basically stopped dead in its track tracks for twenty four hours whilst the whole of nine to eleven happened.

And as soon as Building seven dropped at five twenty pm that afternoon, it then made a one hundred and eighty degree turned to the right and then fizzled off in the next two days and over the ocean.

So you think that is this a result of energy the energy weapon or is this a result of that also having the ability to control the.

Weather and like, hey, guys, don't fucking hit New York.

We got something going on that direction.

Well, they've been able to control hurricanes since nineteen forty seven.

Right, this is always tied back to like the Israelis as well the massade in that No, but the.

US Navy, the US Navy's first cloud seating and everything started in nineteen forty seven.

These clip that I can send you with with it, they have the same town in Florida twice by accident.

Yeah, well they seed in it and then they've completely caused a hell lot of a lot of damage and what's so so strange about Hurricane Aaron Is it made a beeline and it stood.

Still for that day and we can only.

What's what's the English word now, speculate, speculate, speculate that if you look at.

The work of John Hutchinson in his Hutchinson effect and the work that he did in his lab and then ended up in Los Alamos labs and all of that, he would create a static field and then have some deslock coils around the static field, and when he serves the juice, that's when he could manage to have metals break, split, jellify, have these metals actually would seem to be white hot but was cold to the touch.

And what he was doing was and that was all ex navy surplus army equipment that he got out of good will or wherever.

And he was replicating the work of Nicola Tesla, and Nicola Tesla could do all of this, and Hutchinson ended up doing this in the late seventies eighty three.

The Pentagon guys came to his lab in Canada checked out what the hell he was doing, and Lieutenant Colonel or Lieutenant John Alexander you must have heard about him as well, and his five hour interview on Sean Ryan.

I know him personally, I've interviewed him several times.

Actually, he's a good friend.

I just keep him out an arms destince.

I'm friendly enough with him where I want the information he has, but I'm not friendly enough to not assume that he's not playing me.

Well.

He is, most probably because he definitely.

He's known as the father for anyone who doesn't know, he's known as the father of non legal weaponry.

Yes, yes, and again, when when was the first reported use of non lethal weaponry or lasers or something like that.

Funny you mentioned lasers because you know someone I can't remember where I saw this, but right like today, they have the technology that they can send a laser out and and sound.

Will be projected from said laser, so like warning.

So some people when they're approaching like a highly secure or sensitive facility, they'll they'll get they'll hear an audible warning in their heads do not come closer or you know, do not breach you are encroaching on highly sensitive like you know, something like that.

So if we have that technology today again brings me back to the whole idea of Darper.

What the fuck do they have in the black right now.

But the thing they've already said publicly in twenty twenty three that the US military is now using lasers that they are beaming from satellite to satellite to US army installations in electricity free electricity like Nicola Deslo wanted to beam around the world.

They already working on that.

And the first reports of directed energy weapons typed laser type stuff was in nineteen eighty nine during the Panama invasion.

Go watch the investigative report the Panama Deception that came out in nineteen ninety two where they mentioned that it was a chance to use experimental weapons.

They show pictures of some sort of army guy or whatever that just ended up being a blob of mush, and that there were vehicles that were cut in half with some sort of laser type type thing.

And that's also the first time that they used the stealth bomber that as well.

Then face forward a little bit, that's early nine two thousand and three, you had the Golf War and another documentary came out in two thousand and six where these guys were doing the investigation of what was happening, and it's called Star Wars.

In Iraq, that came out in two thousand and six that talks about all this directed energy weapons because they say that some sort of directed energy weapon was used on civilians there, and they also interview Colonel John Alexander about that.

Really, Alexander, just ask him next time he talked to him, ask him about what he thinks about the evidence presented by doctor Judy Wood and that directed.

Energy weapons were involved.

And I would love to hear how he responds to that.

I'll ask him literally right after we get off.

The other thing is you've you've got Sean Ryan, who's who's has who talks about He's got this other series now he was talking about the Voice of God, technologies and all of that.

You've got Tucker Colson in his fourth episode that says, you know, you've got to focus on on the full knowledge, but don't look at don't don't look at the directed energies.

Yeah, isn't it precisely?

Bye these guys, these guys.

Because the thing is when it when it comes back.

And and this is also Catherine Austin Fitz when she was on Tucker Colson's show as well.

She was talking about the danger of breakthrough energy and how it could be weaponized.

Okay.

She mentioned that friends of hers put up their Breakthrough Energy conference in twenty twelve, but she made no mention of the fact that this breakthrough energy that is so dangerous when weaponized was used on nine to eleven.

Well, because if it wasn't weaponized, you could use this energy and give everybody free energy.

Oh yeah, naturally, right, because.

If you know the.

Cover up of cold fusion from nineteen eighty nine, not necessarily okay, cold fusion that stage billions was being pushed into a new energy source.

The guys were trying to recreate the Sun by crew.

Sounds like a great idea.

Yeah, So they wanted to recreate the sign.

Billions of dollars pulled into it.

They never got excess energy out of it.

And then all of a sudden, here comes two guys with the name of Ponds and Fleischmen who were tinkering around for a couple of years in their laboratory, and they say, well, we have now created what we call is low energy nuclear reactions without ionizing radiation.

You can watch the documentary What's It Watergate?

Heavy Watergate, the documentary Heavy Watergate, and these two guys ended up telling going public and saying, okay, fine, we've got excess heating here.

But it was new physics.

They were rewriting the laws of physics because there's no way that you can put in a certain amount of energy and get more out of it in the system that they were using.

And lo and behold, all of a sudden, a news conference is held by a gentleman with the name of Stephen E.

Jones, Captain Thurmite, and he says, and he sits with a bunch of physicists and he says, Okay, guys, I don't think that the stuff has got merried.

Who who agrees with me?

And then they had science by Vote and the guys were kind of like discredited in that in that press conference.

And then a day later you had the exon Valdi's disaster.

And how does media work?

They just love a good disaster.

So then the whole discussion and the debates on cold fusion just dwindled away.

And about twenty later, CNN took it upon themselves to revisit cold fusion, and you can find the YouTube video of the CNN investigative report just look for cold fusion is Hot Again.

And they basically prove that it's it's true and the Pentagon is working on it.

And if that wasn't suppressed way back when we could all have a small, little cold fusion reactor in our house and just to work that into your care and you will never have to buy fuel, pay electricity, and even something as small like this little pen will become ninety percent cheaper.

So what happens to your quality of life if everything becomes ninety percent cheaper pretty much overnight, if this technology is released to the world, And that's agin to what happened on nine to eleven, because it's some sort of cold fusion event.

Because even the stories of molten mikel and the very warm rubble pile, all of that is complete, not in this direction.

Huh, So do you think that they're so?

Ronald Reagan had this Star Wars initiative as sd I, right or as I can't remember exactly what's the strategic defense.

So the idea was to put satellites up, but these satellites would have active what you would like, I would assume is directed energy weapons.

To shoot down incoming ballistic missiles with nukes on them.

Yeah, but just like everything, this is a dual purpose technology, right, so it can be used to take down an incoming ballistic missile, or maybe it could also take down a building or two or five.

Or several.

So I would very much employ implore people to look into Star Wars.

Billions of dollars poured into it, and then it just never happened quiet quote unquote never happens.

We know.

In nineteen eighty nine they actually Ronald Reagan was really impressed and reported back to the world that we were successful in our first test.

And then in the nineties it just went and even John Hutchinson and John Hutchinson worked on the Star Wars program as well.

Twenty twelve, Jesse Ventura was doing a whole series on nine eleven, so he started with a bombs and thurmite and then eventually on a book tour he was he did his I think it was a book of thirty reports or secrets and CEI doesn't want to know whatever.

But he was on his book to assigning books, and then a gentleman came to him and then basically said he took this book, took this book and plopped it down in front of him and said, if you want to know what happened on nine to eleven read this book, and he left his business card and X and retired NASA guy, and they when he did his series they called the episode was called the Death Ray or something like that.

And there was another gentleman who was also X NASA employee, who was actually the guy who contacted Jesse and he said, look, dude, I was working on this Wars program.

We've perfected it, and the way that it basically works is we can take take out a whole city fucking And two days after he basically posted a picture with Jesse venture in his own website, the guy died of a heart aday.

No way, yep.

And so when he was talking to John Hutchinson talking about the Star Wars program to twenty two scientists working on the Star Wars program were also all taken out or died mysteriously, or died suddenly or freaky accidents or something right, And you can actually find documentaries on on this anomaly of these these scientists just dying off.

We're all linked to the Star Wars program.

You know, it sounds again anyone in the UFO community will know exactly what I'm about to just I'm about to say, in the forties and fifties, gravity.

Like in all the like Popular Mechanics and.

All the like science magazines and newspapers at the time, they were like, we're about to crack gravity.

We're about to crack it.

It's the next thing.

It's the the it's that we're right on the cusp boom go silent.

Does it go silent because they failed, or does it go silent because they succeeded and they took it underground and and into like you know, programs like DARPA.

Most people in the UFO community will say that it went it went, it went black, meaning it went into the black programs.

So I what, I wow, wow, Because I'm gonna have to have you back on this is far too long a conversation to just comprise it.

Let's get into a little bit of Okay, So what happened in Pennsylvania and what happened at the Pentagon is the same technology used or is this something different?

Well, Shanksville was a set up scene.

It was they found no jet fuel in ground ground samples.

There were strange levitation effects that even affected the people in the town itself when the people arrived there.

Even the mayor's brother arrived there around about in less than five minutes after the alleged plane crash crashed, and they said there was nothing resembling a plane there.

There was a small cottage very close by that had a garage door wrinkle up like a piece of confetti.

So if you look at the twenty nineteen Ethiopian flight, I cont remember the name, the number.

Just search Ethiopian Airlines twenty nineteen crash site.

The plane crashed in a similar way as we were told with Shanksville.

And if you look at that debris field, it's insane.

A plane doesn't get swallowed by by the ground.

And the official story is that they found and yeah, what the fuck is that?

That's just a hole in the fucking ground, man.

That's literally what it looks like, is like they just like and then they blew up the ground and then they scattered some metal across.

And and it's it's it's unofficial data that flight ninety three was still airborne well after the alleged crash time as well, all four planes.

O my god, and then and then and when it comes to the Pentagon, the official narrative is not not only is this guy the worst of the pilots.

He couldn't even fly a Cessna.

Yeah, right, and then he makes a fucking almost a two hundred degree turn right banks.

It comes down perfectly aligned with the Pentagon, and then just so happens to hit the one section of the building where all the accounting is.

And also that also that loop, that loop is impossible structurally for a plane to be able to do that, because it's gonna you're gonna hit five or seven g's and the plane will will will break up.

It cannot fly at five hundred feet pretty much parallel to the ground, like a few feet up.

If you if you stall want to believe the government narrative, just go search the name Adam Eisenberg.

He is a third Infantree Alpha company.

He was He spent two hundred and forty hours at the Pentagon clearing debris and all of that, and he said that there is nothing that resembled a plane there.

And the reason why he can talk out of experiences because later on in his life he ended up in.

A working for ups and they they it was a warehouse stocking Bratton Whitney jet engine parts.

So he's well acquainted with the parts and everything, and when COVID hit, he just something in him snapped, and he said, well, I haven't been believing that the plane crash there for all these years, and.

I think, yeah, and I think I know it snapped in them.

Is that it was another I mean, you could argue that the pandemic was was oh god, I'm going to get a fucking video demootisk because I just said that.

You could argue that the pandemic was the latest and a long line of control mechanisms, but.

Also it was it was a curse and a blessing at the same time, because I woke up a hell of a lot of people and now they're revisiting everything right, and a lot of people are slowly but surely waking making their way back to nine to eleven, especially in America with with with this trauma that is still hanging over people and the way that you were conditioned.

Yes, that's really evil what they did to you when you were youngster man.

Yeah, literally sitting there and you are just told for for not people.

If anyone wants to, like, really do the the do the mouth picture every day for at least a year sixty seconds where you as a kid were told explicitly to remember nine to eleven and for the people that died.

So a third grade kid, I'm doing that every day for a year.

That's good.

What is?

What if that's not a psychological operation?

What is?

What is?

And with the fast forward twenty four years and then university students, if you asked them about nine eleven, they've got no fre clue.

No.

I was mentioned in passing to us twice in our whole school upbringing.

So where the hell did they never forget?

Go?

Yeah?

It went to a certain people, and that's it?

Specific targeted audience is that?

Where's that's where it went.

I have a I have a niece, or I guess you could.

She's not technically my niece, but I was just at Thanksgiving with her and I'm sitting next to her.

We have like this traditional Uno game, and you know, she's like eleven And I asked her.

I was like, Hey, do you learn about nine to eleven in school?

And she said yeah.

I was like, can you tell me what happened?

She said, some planes at some things that I don't really know too much about it, And it just fucking it set me back.

I was at a loss for words.

Because she never she did not.

It's not that fact that she just that she knows that two planes hit a couple of hours.

She doesn't know that the Pentagon was also hit.

She doesn't know that in Shanksville a plane allegedly crashed in a heroic story you know of passengers overcoming hijackers, right that you think that that's something that would teach you.

Right with the Pentagon, I mean, it is two thousand and one, but that whole area is surveilled, and we don't have any footage of any plane going in, like clear footage.

I think the only footage I've ever seen.

You see like a white thing kind of looks like a missile, to be honest, more resembles a missile come through the frame and then goes out of the frame, and then you're kind of like, Okay, then it hits the Pentagon, but.

You don't know your bubble on that it's not a missile either.

Again, with what you're saying, and and and and those.

And those frames that were released to the public, they've proven that frame thirty three and thirty four was photoshopped.

Jesus fuck it.

So there's a big problem with that.

And then if you go and look at the work of nine to eleven planes research more condent out of the UK.

There were also the seismic readings recorded for the Pentagon event.

It wasn't a seismic event, it was an electrical disturbance.

So there are a lot of things pointing to the fact that it was some sort of kinetic directed energy weapon event.

There, that's what it looks like.

Look at I mean, you look at the fucking side of the pack.

Look at that.

How is it?

How is it?

So?

I mean, that is fucking that.

That is lazy, man.

That is laser precision, and it hits the one part where they hold all the paper accounting.

So two point three trains.

It's just a coincidence, man.

How can you be such a conspiracy theorist.

Come on, it's just a coincidence, man, Just a coincidence, right that It fucking it's blash.

Could another night.

If they did this, right, if this this whole thing is staged to some degree, I guess my next question.

Is what will the next nine to eleven look like?

Oh, I don't know, I don't know.

I can just tell you go back to the Oklahoma City bombing.

That's also directed energy weapon.

Sorry to say so, just go look at that the next nine to eleven.

Well, if more people, if there was a rallying around Dr Morgan Reynolds and doctor with in two thousand and seven, and people then could understand what happened on nine to eleven, then COVID nineteen wouldn't have happened and our world would have been a lot different.

I think people are waking up more now because they can see the way the playbook plays out.

We know October seven was allowed to happen.

There's more than enough stuff to have people see through that ruse now as well.

Right, the best intelligence agency, the intelligence agency that blue motherfucker's up with pagers couldn't stop that.

What the fuck are you telling?

What are you trying to tell me?

But guys have come out and said that they were told to stand down and go go do something else for the next three hours.

Dude, I don't know what's happening, but Israel I'm getting really fucking fed up with.

And this is coming from a person who my partner is Jewish, right, I try to there is a difference between people, the Jewish people in the Israeli government, huge separation.

But how is one of the smallest countries, wasn't even a fucking a nation state until the forties.

How do they have America?

By the by the nutsack?

Why do Why is it when they say jump, we say how I why?

And why why are they?

Why are they getting from twenty to twenty Why have they been getting something like fifteen or twenty billion dollars a year for fuck knows how many years?

And there's a new law that's come out or that's been signed.

Now I think that's going to be twenty or thirty billion dollars a year for the next twenty years.

Yeah, and God that you're on a If you're in a college campus and you criticize Israel, boy, I come from the Ivy League area, you know, in Boston.

If you're if you're a college student, you talk Israel, dude, they'll stone you.

All of a sudden.

You'll see people revolt, I mean, reduce themselves back to the stone age.

That's what it looks like.

I mean, God forbid you question question the big guy, you know, and I think I mean I wasn't a huge fan of Charlie Kirk.

I'm not going to pretend that I.

Was.

I wasn't.

I don't get that political.

I'm starting to because of what happened to him.

Just something is it just me or just since nine to eleven, something has not felt right for most of my life, something's felt off.

I don't know what it is.

I don't know.

There's a bigger awakening in your country and in the world in general.

I just think I can't understand how it happened that that your your country got got co opted and controlled by another country.

And there's been a lot of people who've been talking about it.

You can find guys talking about a pack and how the Senate has been being bought out as far back as the nineteen seventies, just as you have the hearings that were held in the Senate where they were talking about the CIA infiltration in news media and all of that.

And you still have people today that won't won't believe it.

For me, as a South African looking at what's going on in America right now, it is to me a the best circus to watch.

I don't need to do what's well, I don't need to watch soapias or anything like that.

I just need to what's what's going on in your in your fair enough, in your politics and everything.

It's it's crazy.

At least you seem to be an American that that can define what a woman is, but there's still a lot of people that can't do that.

Man.

It's it's it's zird just to see how how even look if somebody comes into your country illegally it's illegal?

Why why would people have an issue with somebody being deported it didn't follow the stringent ways of getting into your country.

Even Yeah, South Africa, we've got a major problem with that, but we've got a failed state.

That's our country has been in decline for over thirty years.

So I can understand the problems that we've got.

But you guys are supposed to be first world.

You guys are supposed to be the superpower of top of the pile.

But it also seems like you guys have some of the most stupid people in government, and never mind just people and people in the streets.

Because you can walk down and ask them who the Kardashian married, or what they wore to which gala event, or ask them something about where pop out New Guinea is and they won't be able to answer a question like that, and it's it's it's a fact that your educational system is it's just dumbing down people like you can't believe.

And hopefully you guys can do something about this, because if you guys are going to be following the same timeline as we did here in South Africa for the last thirty years, yours has just rammed up a lot faster, and you guys need to really really wake up, otherwise you're going to be even worse off than than.

Europe is at the do you This is gonna will wrap up in a minute because I gotta, I gotta.

I'll have to have you back on for a part two.

This is like, I'm gonna keep this series open, like open to the point where I'm revisiting at least once a month and trying to get as many people people on the ground that were there, first responders, people like that.

I would love to speak to them as well.

Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna I will.

If there's something I'm good at, it's getting people that I have no business talking to to talk to me.

That's cool.

Yeah, So dude, dude, then please see if you can speak to go go and make a list of the gentlemen who the first responders who survived the North Tower disintegration, Mickey Cross and the rest of these guys.

Because that's the one thing that I would love to is get on a plane, fly over to America and do a little documentary series and go interview those guys and have them sit down and watch the presentation by doctor Julie Wood and see what the responses would be.

Well, what's nice is I can fly to New York and literally thirty minutes, I can drive, I can get I could drive there and drive back all in one day.

Jeez, right, it's nice for me because New York's not close.

But yeah, I would love to do something larger and and really get to the heart of some of these questions because something doesn't feel right.

And I think, I think anyone who doesn't look at nine to eleven the day and just from just the evidence of the things that changed on a day on our daily lives worldwide, worldwide, the people I don't.

I don't think people understand the ramifications of what happened that day are still being felt today.

If not, if it's not a continued direct operation of it's said.

It's set up where we are now.

If if, if they didn't get away with it that easily, because that's the thing.

If people woke up that day and said, no, all of this, yeah shit, yeah.

If they have that day they were like, wait a second, let's take a fucking step back.

Are you are you sure?

Are you sure?

Are you sure?

This is what happened?

Uh?

And then it just march to war and and call for someone's head, literally calling for Osama bin Laden's head.

People had forty five seconds, within forty five seconds.

My mother, sweetest woman ever, he when he was killed that day, and that that operation, people were in the streets partying.

What the fuck was that?

What was that?

That's not a civilized culture.

They paraded that kill around and then they dropped him in the middle of the ocean, right, no one knows why.

Well, they say so, they can't build a mass grave in remembrance of him.

But something doesn't feel right.

I accept that he was a terrorist, I accept that terrorism it exists.

I accept all of these things.

But I'm also not quick to say that, you know, given who we are, that's something like this, such a absolutely catastrophic intelligence failure, such a thing could ever happen in a world where we call ourselves the dominant superpower.

How could people that lived in mud huts do something that sophisticated.

It doesn't add up.

It doesn't add up.

It's it's theater, you guys, was sold a story because there's got to be a story.

There's got to be a reason why the buildings collapsed because of a plane.

But if you go do your research on what a plane and can and cannot do, that falls.

They had to get rid of the aspect and a military installation.

But if you had to be hit, but in military installation needed to be hit to make it an active war terrorist attack if it was a terrorist.

If I was a terrorist hijacker and I'm flying into d C, I hit the fucking White House, why would you hit the Pentagon?

Why not hit the White House where the President lives.

It's the most fucking famous building in the world.

Why would you not hit that?

If you were a hijacker who could precisely target the Pentagon's accounting division, why not it?

To Ittos.

And I approached that most pilots try to do in simulators and they can't even manage that.

Because Jesse Ventura did an episode on the Pentagon itself, and one of these guys who were on his team was able to fly Assessna.

He did some of that, and then they put him in a flight simulator where with a pilot, and he tried the same approach and he couldn't manage it.

And that pilot also stated again, well, if you're flying that low at five hundred miles an hour, it won't be able to do that because the wings and stuff would have separated from the plane.

A long time ago.

All that information has been put out in mainstream media, even though there was a conspiracy type or series, but that's as far back as twenty twelve, and you still have people trying to make the argument for a real plane.

And then you've got army soldiers who were part of the cleanup stating, sorry, guys, but it's bullshit, and the nine to eleven truth movement shuns them.

Listen to the interviews.

You can find a bunch of the interviews of Adam Eisenberg and where he basically talks to you about his interactions with people like Richard Gage, Greg Jenkins, all of these guys, David Chandler, the so called nine to eleven truth a celebrities that you guys have, and he's got some serious war stories to tell and you should.

Maybe I'll send you his email address so to state that you can reach out to him as well.

Yeah, So where can people find you and continue to look at your work?

You've compiled some of the Next time we'll have you on, maybe I'll just let you do the presentation because I kind of want to hear it start to finish, so we'll have to set that up.

I want to hear.

I want that.

Maybe I'll do that next.

Where can people find you and continue to learn about this?

Well, I'm I'm on substack.

I've got a whole bunch of articles there that I've been writing since twenty twenty three.

That's at nine eleven revision.

So substack dot com forward slash at nine to eleven revision.

Then on x I'm really interactive there at nine to eleven revisited, and then you can also find me on Rumble.

I've got a hell of a lot of content there is revisiting nine to eleven, don't I'm on YouTube, but YouTube doesn't like me.

I'm on my fifth.

Channel anyway, three years, So so find me on substack rumble and X do you have a Telegram channel that I link in my.

In the BB of my sub stack articles as well, that I set up as a library where it's really easy to download the content and telegram, and it's a group with a bunch of subgroups as well, So if you're on your cell phone, you're not going to easily see the subgroups, but go onto your laptop and you'll see all the subgroups and just download the stuff there.

It's set up as a as a learning hub and just drop a comment if you've got questions, and anybody who who wants to have a discussion reach out to me.

That's sometimes the best way to go through all of this because a lot of people have got preconceived ideas.

Strangely enough, about two weeks ago, a gentleman who's a lifelong New Yorker still believed in the radio controlled planes and control demolition and all of that, and you came into a friend of mine's asking a bunch of questions.

He ended up private messaging me.

I told him to just go watch nine to eleven Alchemy Facing Reality and tell me what you think, and then let's schedule a zoom call and after watching that documentary and looking at the work of doctor Judy Wood and Dr Morgan Reynolds, he's completely on the page.

Now we can realize that Project Bluebeam was in play on nine eleven and an exotic weapon, an exotic weaponry was used.

Dude.

In twenty fifteen, Stephen Greer was asked direct question about this and he sidestepped it like he don't believe.

Of course he did.

And how the hell can all these guys in the UFO field be scurrying around this.

You guys have all been waiting for Project Bluebeam to happen, and it's already already happened.

Have you said the arm the guy he went on, the guy that went on Danny Jones and showed not not and this is this is about Greer.

He showed this like article and and and evidence that brought Greer into like he got married.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't want to say it out.

Loud, Thank you for saying it, but Greer got married and that he never written yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know what I'm talking about.

Yes, yes, So that's why I think besides that that he talks about all the ship that's needed, he talks about all the ingredients.

He just doesn't want to put them together to bake that nine eleven cake.

If you know what I'm saying, I've got a I've got a specific article where I take statements of Greer, statements of doctor Wood and all of that.

It's basically going too my substake into my archive and just just stop in the UFO and you'll find that article and I break it down showing how disingenuous this arshol is because he's running a honeypot.

Yeah, he's running.

So many guys in the UFO field noticed that there's this other it's a guy with a beard, his ex navy seal and the older guy I can't remember the names.

And they had a young young guy who who was also talking about directed energy weapons recently.

And the guys all talking around this, but none of them want want to connect it to nine to eleven.

Why what are they so scared of?

I know, I think I know what they're scared of.

I think I think I know.

But yeah, that's the thing is, it seems the d ODA has approved up to a certain degree.

Right they call they call it even they even call them whistleblowers.

They're not fucking whistleblowers.

They're pr agents fucking giving you trolled disclosure story right, Like, there's no real UFO whistleblower right now.

They are perception manages right right.

And it's it's concerning to me.

It is concerning to me that, you know, because no one wants to they think, and this is my my own opinion about the UFO community.

They don't want to.

Admit that the same people that are controlling like the Epstein's and the Ditties and the nine to eleven stuff, they don't want to admit that the same people that are doing that that are the same people that are retrieving these these craft and and and then covering it up and then using said technology to enrich themselves.

This this idea of the deep state.

They don't want to say that Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell were collecting just Nordic like Swedish men and we're going Maxwell that's all.

She had it as as our assistance.

And their hair would go missing and you know, like when you take a shower, your hair goes in the drain.

There's guys that would come home and then the hair would be missing from the think and and Why was Epstein so connected into the idea of of free, free energy, Why was he so involved in that research, Why was he so curiously sparked by all of that?

Why was he blackmailing the most important people, right the ditties of the world.

They're in every fucking industry and then they control the world that way.

I mean, the evidence is all right there, just no one wants to connect it, but everyone wants to get paid.

Yeah, that's the thing.

And the thing is the thing is people don't don't know that there are three camp camps of truth awareness.

The first camp is government narrative.

Second one is the official counter narrative that's completely for with with truth seekers, truth tellers, quintel pro agents, agents and all of that.

And that's where everybody gets stuck.

And you think, okay, fine, because the Sky is talking the right talk everything against the government or whatever.

They don't realize that the Sky is an agent and they don't go deeper so they can find Camp three, where the real truth is, and that's where you get censored, the platformed, vilified, made fun of and everything.

And it's very difficult getting to that third camp.

And because it's such a lonely place.

People then easily fall back into Camp two.

And it's much to struggle, that's much.

I'll tell you that it pays more to be in camp two than it does to be in Camp three.

Right, if you want to be able to speak at conferences and you know, get those get those fees from writing the books and documentaries, then then people find Camp two and they get real comfy, right, because life at the top is fun, especially when you're looking down.

But thank you so much for doing this.

We'll definitely have you back on for everyone watching in the in the current thank you so much.

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What was I gonna say?

It was?

I was gonna say a catchy phrase at the end.

I had it, but I lost it, So I'll say it next time, all right, Yeah, we'll definitely.

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