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Hello, bonnet heads, how are you?

This is Pamela Bob.

I'm your host, creator and star of Living on a prairie and I am here with Oh she looks very smart today with the glasses down by her nose.

Yes, it's our beloved prairie bitch.

Miss Allison Arngrim.

Hello, Allison sturdious.

That's sort of sexy secretary.

Yeah, and Dean, you can do your sexy secretary now with you.

Oh, well, no work, I'm the that's the bookish professorial thing.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's the dean of this Yeah.

Yeah, the dean of the Dean.

So I could tell.

Actually, if I take off my glasses, I can barely see either.

Of you, so keep them on, keep them on.

That's right.

He's my hashtag imaginary boyfriend, all of our hashtag imaginary boyfriends.

Dean Butler, Hello, guys, how are you?

Hey?

How are you?

How is how's everybody?

I'm good, I'm good.

But what's going on this week?

Well, I mean we are we are hours away from well actually, when this breaks, this will be the day before our event if we yeah, day before Columbia.

So that's what we're really excited about.

I mean, I just I'm going to hold up our official poster here.

This is the this is the poster.

And here is our official tote bag.

Oh, I love the tote bag.

That we have.

Yeah, so we've done a We've done a poster and a tote bag, and there's there's a cap and a whole bunch of the things that we've done.

I think Colombia is going to be just Colombia is going to be just leafy and beautiful.

It's going to be sort of in the mid eighties.

And if everything is holding the way we're looking at the advanced forecast, it should be just absolutely gorgeous.

There's going to be little house music playing on the streets of Columbia, and of course we'll have the train on the on Saturday night, and our meet and greet sessions and beautiful pop up banners that Orlando de la Pause is designed for behind each cast member, and it's it's going to be.

I think it's going to be a really lovely event.

We have rarely gone into a space that is so authentic for you.

Know, for what we're doing, which is great.

It's kind of to me like see Me is the sequel, because we filmed in Seni and we recreated the set so it looks filmed.

Well, what did we do once a year, we all loaded up the gang and got on a plane and went up to Sonora area to between heartt and Angels camp in the mountain.

It's where you know, the Lord is My Shepherds they camp out on and on and on Fools Golf Endless episode where hello we shot up there.

That's right, fools Gold so here.

Yeah, so this image here that right here, Sorry Orlando did sorry there, So we did an it's a combination of the Panning for Gold and the Laura cross from uh from the Lord is My Shepherd.

So we did a combo thing there.

This one, the driving shot is is sort of the Almonzo carriage going through Colombia.

Now we never saw that shot, but we we created that shot.

So because this this Wells Fargo building is a central piece of the Columbia, you know, the Columbia architecture.

So and then of course then where are we here at the top?

Where is there?

Know?

Where is it?

Oh?

Maybe it didn't it didn't get so we have the train.

Sorry we didn't have it.

We didn't have Jonathan's mountain that is on the poster right here.

So he did such a beautiful job with this.

I think people are going to love it.

He obviously wanted to be inspired.

Yeah, exactly, memories.

I was, you didn't interview the other day and I said this, I said, the big thing of why you need to buy a ticket is to watch all of us have flashbacks and memory totally.

I didn't make the time we did it because.

It's yeah, yeah, no, I think that's I think it's going to be really fun and a beautiful location.

And everybody and everybody.

In gold Rush Country has been so welcoming and positive about this, and.

Uh, you know, so it's going to be fun.

We are starting the second half century of Little House Love in Columbia.

Yeah, I mean there's something the second half century of Little House Love.

As you both wear your glasses, I.

Know, yeah exactly, because I can't see it so and I just want to mention.

I just want to mention before we uh, before we step into the episode.

That coming up in July is Laura Palooza in Sea Falls, South Dakota, And if people want to know about that, they can check out l I W l r A dot org.

This is an academic this is really the more academic side of Laura.

It's a small group, but they are passionate about Laura, and if you're in that category but don't know about this, Laura Palooza is really I mean, it's a deep, immersive dive into all things Laura.

And one of the fun things that's happening as it's happening at our event is in Seuit Falls, and this is in July July ninth and tenth.

In Seux Falls, there is going to be a screening of a screening of Little House Homecoming Trip Friendly, who is the owner of the Little House franchise, is going to be there as along with the showrunner for the new Little House on the Who's going to be there talking about what they're doing.

And I think that's going to be a really fascinating conversation.

So I'm going to be there.

Jonathan Parker is going to be there.

Else.

I know you talked about being there, but you can't you're traveling.

I'm going to be If you're in the other end of the country and you can't make it there, swing on by Provincetown take the Little Ferry from Boston.

A very different experience.

Different the other five shows at the Red Room in July and Red Room Fabulous Club it's underneath the ice cream parlor, easy to find.

After my show, you can go get ice cream.

It's fat.

I love that, and it's it's a really fun place.

And I will be telling many tales, naughty and otherwise and it'll be a hoot and yes, and it'll.

Be really fun.

And you know, there's pizza and ice you Competeawn's a fun place.

It's it's crazy.

It's like a festival.

In the summer.

It's everyone is doing your show there, so it's it's almost like a fringe festival of just crazy shows.

And from all over the world.

There was there was a guy from England.

Doing this absolutely insane thing on stage when it was there left.

So yeah, yeah, it's wonderful.

Well we listen.

We can't wait to hear all about that.

Uh, Panela, let's step in here, let's do this.

Okay, coming up today, I'm very excited about this episode because it was a.

Pleasure to watch.

It was so funny on my last week's episode, which was asier Jerker, But this one is a barrel of laughs and it's Allison at her teenage best.

Okay, it's a quirky episode, guys.

It's featuring Charlotte Stewart, Miss Beetle, and our Beloved Prairie Bitch, but first produced in the studios of ubn Go and Burbank, California.

This is the Little House fiftieth Then of there's a podcast.

Yeah, Allison's tidying upper lipstick.

There it is.

Okay, we're back, Dean hit it.

What episode we're talking about?

Okay, So today's episode is season four, episode twelve, Here Come the Brides, a very, very terrific episode.

I've seen parts of this before.

I'm just so I'm gonna I'm not I wasn't encyclopedically familiar with this, but there are moments with Allison and Catherine and all that that you if you're a Little House fan, you can't not know these moments.

They are fantastic.

So Here Come the Brides premiered on December fifth, nineteen seventy seven, written by John T.

Dugan, who John was a such an interesting, quirky guy, little old guy at the time.

My recollection is big white mustache, big thick head of white hair.

Uh.

He was just he wrote sort of the He was really specialized in the funny, quirky episodes during his time on the show.

This was directed by William F.

Claxton builded a great job.

What do you know what other episodes he did?

Y Claxton ord, No, no, Dugan, Yeah, I'm.

Sorry, we had We'd have to look there are Yeah, we'd have to look that up.

I did not list that he did the funny ones he did a lot of.

Yes, he did do a lot of the funny He was was very good.

My favorite line from the episode Nell's make her a widow.

And you know that's that's like the best line.

So Allison read a lit quick synopsis on what this episode is.

I love this episode so much and I was so happy I watched it again because, oh my god, what It's just a display of adolescent rebellion.

And houting and skulking and thin and.

Massive hormonal love.

It really is.

Romeo was really a.

Massive hormonal love on Little House.

That's something right there.

It's Nelly has tea, It's the Harmons go wild.

It's just crazy.

When Adam Simms and his son Luke roll into Walnut Grove, they bring more than just their pig farming ways, their big farming ways.

I'm dying here, he do.

They bring chaos, romance, and a whole lot of overalls.

Luke, who's a free spirited lad who considers shoes optional and overall's formal wear, catches the eye of none other than Nelly Olsen.

Yes, that Nelly walnat Grove's resident mean girl.

Meanwhile, Adam Simms sets his sights on Miss Beetle, the town school teacher.

Their courtship is a swift as a prairie wind, good lord, leaving townsmoke.

And viewers alike wondering if there's something in the well water.

The women are all very effective.

Women are so aggressive in this episode.

Laura tries to get him, I go after him.

She's it's like, what would there's something wrong that the women need a man?

Dispad what is happening?

Harriet Olsen, ever, the.

Social snob, is horrified by Nelly's affection for a shoelass pig farmer, for attempts to sabotage the budding romance are as subtle as a stampeed replying parental disapproval and all common sense.

Nellie and Luke alope a sleepy eye.

That's a romantic place to come.

Yeah.

The City of Love, Oh, featuring a Justice of the Peace, Oh, my God, the amazing Ivor Frances shut up, I reve notes about him, Oh my God, sleep and a groom who ends up.

Running from the shotgun of his new mother in law.

With Nellie's marriage and old Miss Beadle and Adamsons decide to try the out as well, making it a two for one wedding special because nothing says Prairie romance like a pulse of matrimony.

And that is true.

Actually, actually, I think every single every single marriage, every single wedding we see him Little House on the Prairies is shot like a far.

Except for just hit me now everybody.

Else Isaiah Lauren Almonzo.

I guess Mary's was the only one planned, but then there was that damn zamstorm.

But then they got married after.

It's always boom, gotta get married.

Love conquers will except for that fashion sense of parental approval, wrote this one of my faves.

One of my faves because Okay, I am fifteen in this episode We'll see to aired in December, so we shot it a few months before I would have Chester in fifteen in January, so I was fifteen.

Probably in a few months when we shot I.

Was super, super super puberty, teenage insanity happening.

It was hilarious and so it was so perfect to now the first time she rebels against her mom.

Yeah, there's time she falls.

In love and shot up.

You scream quite a scream that you do that.

Well, we're we want to get ahead of ourselves.

Oh yeah, I go.

Do we want to do?

We want to track this a little bit about how I mean, because Luke shows up and you are instantly done instantly.

Smith, I do have a note about that.

Okay.

So first it happens is these people get out of this this wagon and they're ordinated.

They look exactly like all the other farmers there with the big foofy hair and overalls and cheets, every kind of nineteen seventies clearly purchased from the department store overalls.

Can I just I saw that?

I went, yess Yeah, I was like.

And he gets out and he's just average looking dude kid and says his dad.

But they get out and immediately Laura's like, Hi, she the welcome wagon.

What what has happened?

Yeah?

And she's eager and then I'm like, out of my way.

Hey, Hi, I'm Nilias and how are you that's about I'm sorry, I'm fifteen.

So she's just barely thirteen.

This cat is you know, he's playing I guess sixteen seventeen.

He's twenty seven.

He's twenty seven years old?

Is he really twenty seven?

He's late twenties.

He was like twenty seven.

I have to look him up his birthday, but twenty five six definitely older than twenty five way, And we're children, teenagers, and we're like, we're not just like gee, he's cute.

Hi there, We're like hi, hi, Hi, hi ya, what are you doing later?

Like over for real stranger.

He hasn't been it's not like he's been introduced to the class.

And we're like, oh, the new boy, Luke.

We're like, he just got out of the wagon.

They could be there to fix something.

We don't know who they are.

It could be the plumber, and we're just like hi.

And then Miss Beetle is like, hey, there, sailor to the brother, what is what is going on?

Why are these women like assault.

Lonely on the prairie?

What very lonely?

You know?

How many new people do they meet?

Never?

It speaks to the It speaks to the way that Michael guided the storytelling here and the way John T.

Dogan Dugan wrote this one is he just you just stepped right into it and just throw out any sort of pretense about well would this happen, wouldn't it happen?

Forget that, or any kind of this, this is what's happening right.

Now, right, or any kind of like swag or subtlety.

No, forget that.

Yeah, no, no, no, it's straight in for the kill.

There's no swag on the prairie.

But it's so these young girls, these children accosting a grown man who they have been introduced to.

So that just just validate me here.

That would not happen today, right that casting a full grown adult to play or even kiss, and it was an innocent kiss.

But it's a kiss, oh a minor that would not happen to the coordinators.

I remember, just even a few years ago, there was a series, I remember what it was.

It was dramatic, was good, and they had a thing where a regular character who is now fifteen ish had to have a romance they were growing up, and the casting was the person had to be fifteen or sixteen, and it was like a big deal and they had to like screen tests with them, and that like everybody was so important, So.

I'm sorry, how old was the person?

They were just a kids fifteen the cast okay, so everyone had to be everyone had to be the same.

We need somebody fifteen, we're not going to snag and some twenty five d And it was like a huge deal the thing.

And now you have intimacy coordinators.

So yeah, now if you had a minor character having a romance, they would insist that you brought in another minor or had or if the character that was getting his was really eighteen playing younger some anything.

Well, okay, when we get there, I mean, I really want to talk more about I love as you as this progresses quickly immediately the way it's structured, we step into you just fawning with sitting with your mother.

I love this, and we you get that scene where it's so tough to be a rich girl.

Oh yes, whoo who well sne I tried, And okay you have all these women like falling over this guy that nobody's met, which is like weird, weird right there, and then he comes into school and here's the other thing, So miss Beeedle is not that freaked out about the bare feet.

She should be, but she's so in love with his dad.

She's likes shoes and what.

And then they make it clear, I don't fancy him.

He's not too poor, his dad is successful.

Pig Farmer says happy, I'm happy to go buy him shoes.

He just doesn't like them.

He just doesn't like them, and everyone goes, okay, okay.

He just And it's interesting that Nelly is not phased by that.

She would have been.

She would have.

You know, really, I hate to say it.

Yeah, Nellie was in heat.

She was great.

Jonathan Gilbert before we get to the house, or we definitely as Jonathan Gilbert, the brilliant actor, young Jonathan Gilbert, all instinct to everything.

So sitting there and it's like who wants to sit with the new guy?

Lo and I elbow him and Jonathan slides off that bench.

Willie slams into the wall like slides like what we rehearsed that that was Jonathan's idea.

We're sitting there and we're like, okay, so I'm gonna wax shove you out of the seat, and he's like.

Okay, wait, wait wait do it?

Do it?

Do it?

And I barely touched him with my elbow.

And he and he flies out and he said.

And he goes, how is that should I do?

That?

Is that good?

I'm like, yeah, yeah.

Do that.

It was so funny.

It's great, kid.

Little He was like, yeah, I want to say I saw a click because you know, Cozy TV always does these fun clips from the house and Prairie and I think they used that one in one of them, Allison, for a promo for you.

Probably like probably, yeah, so and then the like you said, the sexual thing that is kind of going on.

I said something to.

Him about the game, like that deserves a reward?

Is this about the base This was the baseball?

And yes, I've come to offer candy you like to do everyone.

But I'm like her her The double entendres throughout this episode and what am I?

I'm like, where where was I going with it?

I have?

I have once again, as you've always said, with the character of Nelly, I'm all in.

I'm all in.

They say, this is what she's doing.

Okay, so she's madly in love with this.

Guy for no apparent reason.

Okay, I guess I am so rather them not notice or try to ignore the vague double entendre here that was I went all the way and turned it into some like nineteen fifty sex farce where I'm.

Like, that deserves a reward, just like I don't think you didn't chew quite that hard.

But there's it was a little it was a little jewy.

I will say for fifteen, it was a bit.

It was like, whoa really girl?

You know, she's uh huh pushing him.

Then we get back to the house and I love the scene with cat throw where we're you know, doing the yard and I'm.

Saying, yo, let's have him to dinner.

Because you see Nellie openly manipulate her mother.

It's ttentionial, it's not innocent.

She's not like, okay, we have the boy to dinner.

He's really nice.

She's like, I'm getting this boy to dinner.

I'd like to have them to dinner.

Oh no, no, we don't know these.

People and those the Beniza station.

What does you well?

You know, Yeah, he has.

This pig farm.

I hear they're quite successful.

Act here he sold a big farm and he's buying a new one.

I'm fifteen, Why do I.

Have planned this?

Found this out?

And I'm telling my and she says, why haven't they been the store?

And I go, oh, they're probably gonna need a lot of stuff and buy things from you.

Momt hint, I'm fifteen.

Why would I say, I already know what my mother wants.

My mother wants rich, and she wants them to buy stuff at the store.

So I lay it up.

Oh yeah, they'll be buying stuff and manipulate her into saying yes, you can have them to dinner.

And I'm like, thank you, mother.

It's terrifying.

She's already figured out her mother's whole game and is doing it well.

Season four, yes, yes, yes, it is season four.

Really we know everybody, and is now going to work her like I want.

Well once again, the psychopath check marks are all checkingy, checking out.

Yes, yes, but she's you know, she's well, I'm gonna say it that Dean Dean says it.

She's in heat that way.

She is raring to go okay, yeah, it.

Really is well.

And Allison, you you did it, really, you know you did it.

It was funny you did it.

Funny you do You always do so much with your eyes.

I mean there's this intensity in your eyes and of course you're fawning.

At the same time, it varies.

It goes back and forth from sort of like dead on intention to lost in the lost in the haze of infatuation.

I mean, you know, it goes back and forth.

It's just very watchable.

You know, what you did through the years continues to mean the as I watch it and more and more and more, I am so impressed by what you did and how you did it.

And you always kept there was always the humor alive in what you were doing.

I think you fully understood what your flavor was that you were bringing to.

This is one of the funniest episodes.

There are several moments where I just laugh about me too, stuff going on.

Oh and I just mars Marsick.

Was only like twenty two, so okay, okay, so.

Still an adult, and and he had his girlfriend on the set.

Came to the set and that was like another one of the weird moments where I didn't see me.

So we've been filming a couple of days.

I think we started at Paramount and his girlfriend shows up, and it was weird because it was like, oh, my girlfriend.

She was like, hello, I am his girlfriend, and I went there was this vague thing as she wanted to be there for the romantic scene.

She had to she had to make sure everything.

Was going on.

What is that?

And I was like, just this grown does this woman think that I am a threat?

Yes?

Right?

Really?

Really fifteen year old pimply I am a threat to your Wow?

Girl, No, no, I am not a threat to your relationship.

I'm not stealing your man.

But it was there like, but you know, look, stranger things have happened on sets.

I mean, I mean that stuff happens all the time.

Now, I think this set are set was a pretty professional place.

It's not to say that things didn't go on, but I think in that regard, I think people pretty much understood what the job was.

Yeah, she was a kid again, Wait can I can I backcheck for one second?

So did you meet him?

But like what did you?

Did you audition?

Were you auditioning with anything?

Now?

Was like, oh, this is the guy I think we started.

We were like kissing the first day or something.

It was the walk in the dark and the kiss the first day, No.

Thankfully it was not.

But the second maybe that the day two or something's all out of order.

It was pretty quick, but I introduced herself, your love, great, awesome, now Charlotte, Charlotte Stewart.

She did, she did.

So there was a whole casting thing and they said, oh.

That's right.

They gave her an option.

The hot guys and she looked and said, I went to college with him and actually dated him.

She didn't tell them that she went.

I think that one would be the one.

Was like an ex freaking by friend from Yeah.

We were we were watching this last night and Catherine said, oh, I like this actor.

She you know, she she had followed his career a little bit and she liked him.

And I thought he had a really lovely quality about him.

Great hat too that they put on him.

He had a great hat.

And you knew.

He just died last year, last year, and he was living in France because Prairie.

Was really he was in France, apparently.

I thought I heard Bob Mars was living in France too.

Do we all move to fran.

What's happening?

Wow?

Lovely, so let's let's keep moving.

But he was nice to work with Allison, Oh my god, yes, no, both of them were darling.

That's the thing I didn't and and that's the thing, well, we'll talk well in the Patreon, we'll discuss what were my real feelings for this got it?

When he comes I want to jump to let's jump to the dinner scene, because one of the funny scenes when he comes to dinner and Harriet anticipating that this was going to be like the new wealthy family on the prairie, it's the real dose of what he is.

Just happened a lot, Remember to Hugh, you.

Know, oh yes, huge, h.

No, she waited about it.

It was a star.

Was wealthy, and that's.

Just part of the Yeah, that's part of the coming up.

And she's getting the time.

Of course she has to be appalled.

He takes the cave cut five slices, and then he takes the roast and says, my pass said I should only take one slice.

I love that, love that five pounds of beef roast.

And I just like he's a growing boy, you know, there's thing like I love him.

He eats, he's good.

But this scene afterwards we were courting Courton in the parlor has one of my favorite lines in the episode and one of my favorite pieces of dialogue of all time of anything I've ever been in.

And I cry with laughters and it's a subtle throwaway thing.

We had one of those all the rage back then.

Stereoscopic view Man, the Viewmaster, the original, the the original Papa thing has two photos and there's a thing but you look down the middle and ooh, it's three D.

It's great.

And they had a real one on the set and it was awesome.

I was playing with it four hours.

This is great.

And I hand him the slide and he puts it in and I completely deadpans say you'll like this one.

It has pigs in it.

I will never stop laughing.

At that ever, ever is the greatest, Like I'm trying to think of anything I've ever said in anything they've ever done.

It was that freaking funny.

So I'm sorry that was written written and I.

Was absolutely dying.

I was almost the funniest thing anyone's ever said ever.

Like I literally laughed out loud several times in this.

Notice I'm wearing high heels.

Notice I'm wearing a cute little high heel booth.

Okay, that's exactly what I wanted to talk about.

Next was the costume department was on its game in this episode, because not only I did notice your shoes, Allison.

Women always notice she Missus Needles wearing in the last scene too, when she gets mad that that blue with the there are cutouts in it and it's just blows and Missus Olsen.

I also noticed in the parlor scene or the it was either the parlor scene, that first parlor scene or the dinner scene, she's wearing these gold dangly earrings also that I've never really noticed her wear, and they were gorgeous, gorgeous.

I'm sorry.

Missus Olsen was yes her own jewelry.

They had some Missus Olsen jewlry that that they brought in, and she brought in a lot of her own and I think the dangly I think.

They were stunning.

And for some reason they really stood out to me because first of all, they were beautiful, and then I had never noticed that she wore earrings before, which she does in the show.

But we are so pretty in the ships.

I noticed that my mapeup and my clothes they went for We're going to make this girl pretty this week.

For sure.

I've got a little extra lip stuff.

Yeah, that pitch well, the the the now.

Something I did notice, cause you know, is that you had a lot more shape in the you know you're there, they are they are presenting you with shape, lady.

Yeah.

The flower dress, it's a light color.

I think it would be called fawn visions with the roses, but it's pulled up at the sides, kind of a rousing thing with little flower lumps.

And I love that dress and I.

Look really, I don't know how it works, but there's shape.

And they're all and then they were little.

Yeah, they were shapey.

And then also I was fifteen.

I'm up until fourteen.

Oh yeah, no, no fortunes.

Oh shit, I could have gone out.

Riding my bicycle, no shirt up until four and then come.

Around fourteen fourteen, early fifteen, all hell broke loose and it's.

All there on camera.

Suddenly, Wow, okay, she did puberty high and it's like, and.

We were front yet front and center.

Girls, they were we were there.

We were there.

Yeah, but they but it's great that they designed for that to just add to the fun of that something that's a huge piece of this episode and I talk about it a lot when we talk about but David Rose's score in this episode with concert with the fiddle and jaw harp and the whole thing is just a riot.

And and the picking up on classical themes that he uses through this Rights of Spring.

Rights of Spring kicks in.

And it's so and it's sweet.

It's so sweet and romantic and lovely and a little and a little corny that you know where.

You know immediately where this episode is going.

When we first twenty and.

The big strings like love when you're running slow mo, oh my god.

The most their foot in that field.

He had protection on those souls.

They did.

They had to thing.

They had like a spray on stick on thing they did.

They put things on the bottom.

Of his mitchel had the same exact thing.

It's like they sprayed on that.

They sprayed.

They figured out how to do that with Mitch, so they yes, the.

Music at some point it's almost going to go into all sweet mystery of life.

At last I found you can hear this, You go, oh, I think it's pretending to be that.

And then when we were the Honeymoon, when we get there it yes, it's at.

The stripper they playing rack.

It's just it's like it's two little phrases that you that remind you of that.

It's not too heavy duty the way you'd always described it.

I was imagining we were going to hear the full arm thing.

Obviously we don't do, but you know exactly where David and he does it not for you but for him.

And it's the wat wam music because the strippers we knew how to do that.

So there's this wow wow suddenly kicks in and.

Then it like it.

Then it's gone, right, it's just straight piano.

H But they and I'm wearing heels, so I'm a grown up because girls where Mary change a little right?

Grown up ladies have the little heels.

Well that was that was big Laura's big turning point too in Sweet sixteen where the the little the little boot that changed everybody.

Yes, a young woman on the prairie, they let you.

Yeah, yeah yeah.

And so heel does the whole It does it.

Although I would think a heel on the prairie would be very impractical.

But I get it.

I get it totally.

It was totally impacted with gopher holes and all the things that were going on out there.

I mean, it was just an ankle turn waiting to happen.

Yes, okay, And the first rebellion is after dinner, when, of course missus Aulsen freaks out and the Claude Hopper, Claude Hopper, she.

Called it, and she calls him all kinds of things.

It is, and there's a Catherine moment again, and it's Nellie's again, Nellie's first rebellion up until there is a whole lot of yes, mother, Yes, mother, And it is the first time when she says, you can't, and I suddenly talk.

I talked back to her.

Remember in eighteen hundred and amazing back your parents they said, do this.

You said yes, ma'am.

I went, why in the whiniest teenage voice ever recorded in history?

Why?

And she flips out.

And then I've talked about this for Okay, things Catherine did acting wise, you're not supposed to do, directing the other actors, changing the lines randomly as you see, suddenly deciding you need a prop, and eating an apple.

And people say she did one of the things she did that they would tell you in any acting class never do.

This would be to say the actors lying back to them and imitate them.

That would be unspeakable.

Anyways, So great she did this.

I know, And it's so her character that I go, why, so freaking it's funny, and it's so funny.

And it's brilliant, and it's what what missus Olson would do.

And also she knew it would keep it.

Who want to make make the other person mad so that we're it's a knockdown, drag out And of course she would do that.

So it made sense.

But normally you're taking out and shot at sunrise for that sort of thing.

This is not you don't do that to be.

All right, let's let's let's jump ahead to the ring, to the ring.

No, I just wanted to say.

I just want to say, so when you when you guys sort of rehearsed the scene or whatever ran through the lines before you shot up.

Did she do that during rehearsal.

No, it was a surprise.

He's like, I'm doing this, okay, it's more rebellion.

No, I don't care, I rebell and then.

She has show.

Well that's later.

Everyone has our ambitions in life, and mine, Nelly, is not to see you grow up to be missing.

And god, a T shirt that's says Minnesota pig queen with a big with a piggy.

That's awesome.

So yes, oh my god, merch idea Okay, the Rebel.

Brilliant dialogue, we just yet coon hunting?

What we go coon hunting?

What is happening in the show I got?

We go hunting?

I went hunting in that play, right.

Well, there's multiple scenes about that that set up the fact that you are sneaking around with this guy.

We are going at it and I am going out the window or something and we're.

Going and Nels doesn't seem to have any big problems with this.

Yes, it's fine hating.

Because Luke's dad is like, well, they're kids, you know, people being what they are, love being what, they're probably gonna get hit, he said.

The dads are both like, yeah, we saw this coming and we what and the mother.

Yeah, that's just that's just so not but again serving the drama as it needs to be served.

I mean it just it just tells you you can do absolutely anything if you commit to it.

I've certainly been my my philosophy.

Yeah that's your motto.

Yeah.

Now the ring, The ring is because it's my birthday, he says, the corn shucking corseous and because oh for my birthday, Oh my god, I have a birthday.

Nelly's Yeah, time is never mentioned.

I think it was my birthday when I came back to visit.

Apparently the real Nelly Owens was August second.

And you do go corn shucking often in August and September.

That's when the corn is coming in corn shucking, so that could cook at maybe they did go with that.

It was August, but.

It is perpetual summer on the prayer.

And corn shucking is the thing.

And what in the heck when he said I'm going on my birthday and I go, I'm grown now, and misto woman again like fifteen, stop that, stop that you're fifteen?

You doing?

But she has movies.

Now, that's the thing I'm making Dean blush.

The montages we have both Miss Beeedle and her man montage, and then.

We have a mostage.

The parallel structure is really.

Chopping wood like paw and then we.

Run and you can tell this young man has never thrown an axe in his life.

Oh my god, I.

Just have to say, he has never thrown an axe in his life.

He was so I worried that he was going to hurt himself because really.

Oh my gosh, I did not know.

He's just whoa Oh.

No, you can tell, you can tell when a guy knows how to swing an axe or you know, use a shovel or you just know.

And he had never done that.

Even I was like, okay, off his foot.

I like, good for he was very game.

Good for him.

And nice Bill framed this or buzz Bogs framed this.

So you never actually saw where the axe was making contact with the wood because you just don't want to see that.

It's a disast.

Now we run down that hill, and I just want to say for people to watch that scene closely where I ran down that hill.

Yes, I believe this was the time that Richelne and Wardrobe spoke to me about having a more supporting brawl.

I'm just saying gravity, things move when you.

Run down there, you go yeah, And we don't want yeah, too much, too much movement on the prone.

Yeah, it was teens gone wild walnut growth.

It was some kind of yeah.

But now I want to get So that's that's post.

So that's post the kiss.

I want to talk about the fact that so after the after the ring is bought and you've watched uh Luke and Mary come out, you're furious.

You go back into the store.

Ma, your mother tells you buying an engagement ring for Mary.

She's not even a friendship ring.

She goes, Oh, it's an engagement ring out of like nowhere because she's still in the pod.

And how well do I do jealous rage?

Just masay, Yeah, men are as fickle as weather vanes, she says, to which you respond, sh good.

That was that really sort of came out of the intensity of that really came out of left field for me.

I just wasn't I wasn't expecting tind boil when.

I see him and Mary, and I go, what what what?

What?

What?

What what?

And they're clearly leaving together, and I do a jealous rapeer.

I stare at them and it's like, I am gonna go boil someone's buddy.

I am mad, I am jack LUs.

The jealous boiling, insane rage starts happening, and then I go in, and then my mother, because it's missus Olsen, she has to ruin everything for everybody through the pope of course, Oh he is engaged her.

Yeah, you totally bought it for her.

Yeah, totally, totally totally.

And then that's it.

I'm gonna kill somebody, and it's shut up.

And also, PS, you're a fifteen year old girl and it's your mother, so that makes sense.

Just on that point came out and I felt that the.

Things that young women go through them and this is very sort of a realistic moment, the things that young women go through with their mothers, fathers and sons don't have that kind of but there's something about a young woman and her mother, that dynamic of that separation that's taking place at that time where independence is being claimed, that can be some knockdown, drag out stuff.

I saw it in my family.

It's real and ours as sons in the family, we never acted out like that.

They just didn't do.

That sons and thought it get competitive sometimes there's the little dysfunction you hear about, like usually it's a sports thing.

It'll be set in sports.

Let's go shoot some hoops.

Son, Well, they give me that short.

But our father never like deliberately pounded us on the basketball.

Right, We didn't do.

That because he was a decent bird.

There's a gay father.

It depends on the age.

Now, my parents were older, which was probably good because what happens is often if the mother is a typical age, often she is now heading into perimenopause or menopause right when the girl is hitting puberty.

And these are two terrible physical states that you don't want to people going through the same time in the same building.

And if the mother has any issues, any issues, ever the shred of an issue she has dealt with and she's now on her way out of that particular zone.

As Miss smarty Pants is coming into the zone.

And if the girl is like cute, it can get ugly, it can get just ugly, and any psychological underlying issues come.

Flying flying out all well.

And to add on top of that, your first love, your first like experiences, and and just both social experiences as well as romantic experience.

I mean, everything is just so super heightened.

It's just like course, oh my god, you're in love forever.

It's like that's that's gonna be, like, that's it.

This is the guy, this.

Is this is the one is just hitting the age where she may be even questioning her life.

Joyceus she the boy, should I have married this guy?

The girl's I'm gonna get marriage.

Well, we get that, we get that moment from Nell's later in the episode.

We are we are going into such detail here, and we are burning clock right right, go crazy.

Let's let's get to that.

Let's get to the kiss.

Because the kisses you so he's gonna you're upset.

He comes with flowers.

You go.

He tells you he's there for you.

You are completely get the ring bought and paid for.

You get the ring.

You can't believe.

It's a sweet moment.

You get the ring, and then you're gonna go to the corn chucking contest.

You may be late and you end up under the stars and you have a moment, and we tell us about the moment.

Big smooch, and we have the Love American Style opening credits.

Fireworks stock footage of fireworks us behind us, which I'm sure was from Love American Style, is ancient stock footage of fireworks that went on twenty years ago that were.

Pulled up and when we did it, that was all shot indoors night.

Sure of course you could tell it was the stage on stage.

I think it was an MGM by then we're on the stage and we're on the back porch there in the mercantile.

And they did do a lighting effect while we kiss.

They had gels on a couple of lights, a little red blue, so you could as if the fireworks were shining.

Down upon us.

Yeah, and it was lovely, so much fun.

So was the girlfriend there watching?

Oh god?

Yeah, And now I'd like to stay.

This was this was the scene because this was the only kiss, right.

We had two kisses.

Okay, we had two kisses.

We had like a little kiss and then this was the big kiss because we're like we get married, were like, and this was but this was the big lip lock and the hunt.

And it was so crazy because I'd like.

To see my mind had you kissed had you kissed anyone before that?

I had?

I was because I could because we just you did that with a certain amount of confidence.

Yeah, well you know.

I was also like, I'm in, I'm here, Sure I got to kiss this guy.

I had kissed a boy before.

But my parents also didn't come down to the set to watch me kiss a guy set any Mary was on the set, but she was somewhere having a cup of coffee nearby and did not feel the need to sit and stare at me.

I like, kissed the boy.

My parents said, we think you're quite capable of kissing a boy without assistance, surial manage.

It's fine, good for them, good for them.

You know it's again at that moment with the flashing of fireworks.

This is the end of act two.

It's a very very sweet moment, and it's it's it's it's romantic, it's sweet, it's innocent, it's all those things that you would want that moment to be, and it's got, you know, that little tinge of humor like something is this is a little odd, but it's really it's really fun and sweet.

I'm kind of goofy team too.

I mean, they've made me pretty and I'm clearly grown up enough to kiss a boy, but I'm a little goofy.

I was watching when he finally gives me the ring and I go into shock, and I'm like what I went and looked like bud Court.

It looked like bud Court the world and.

Mod if he would one of the great, one of the great May September romances ever filmed.

And I worship Court.

He's it's great.

So is bed Court still around?

I hope?

So I don't know, God, I have to check.

I mean that those were all that I just thinking back to that movie and all the Cat Stevens music and Ruth Gordon and it's just like, oh my god, it was just brilliant.

Still kicking, still kicking at seventy seven.

Yes, my mom was in a movie with him and got his autograph for me, and yes, he was delightful.

He's a lovely person.

Yes, watched What can They look like?

Budcourt.

Oh, Harold, stop it, Harold.

It's like a little weird.

But yeah, they're a little goofy.

She's a little goofy because she's Nelly and she's like loved what And then he's a horror horror So they're they're lovely, they're perfect.

They should be together.

It's yeah, no, it's it's it's perfect.

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We're starting Act three, so I love the romantic run through the mustard.

We talked about that.

We decided we determined that there was some sort of material on young Luke's feet, yes, and needed.

More material on young Allison something gus well, yeah.

There for that, and then I tigried that out right.

That was and you know, as much as that looked romantic and fun running through the mustard, that would not have been fun because yeah, the mustard is not fun to run through it.

So it got a little stickiness to it and all that.

The next scene after this running through the mustard is h I love this.

It's like Miss Beetle chasing pigs.

I know in the pen.

It's like, really, Miss Beetle is chasing pigs.

And thinking it's hilarious and how romantic.

It's sweet.

Charlotte is a child, so Charlotte is like, yes, animals, Charlot's like, get loves animals, and but.

You're never going to catch the pig, which of course was the point.

But I love that.

And then he's sitting there, you know, he's sitting there laughing.

Adam is sitting there.

Adam and Eva love that, you know, sitting there laughing at all this.

And then we get to we get so they're chasing the pigs, and then we get to see Luke chop Wood looking like he's never done that before.

And then we go to the picnic, and that Eva and Adam walk away and.

Where's how did we get on that picnic?

How are we on a picnic?

Yeah?

I'm leaving with miss Peedel and her boyfriend and yellow.

Yeah, somebody, how can we speak it?

We snuck out here?

Yeahs again serving the drama.

We're just oblivious where we need to be and very on it when we need to be.

But yes, you're there eating watermelon in the mustard.

That part was good because you know, see me, it's hot.

We got to sit around eat watermelon.

It was awesome.

Running down the hill, as you know, it's all rocks and gopher hole.

Almost several times it was unpleasant.

Now a location thing here, This is really fun at the where they were.

Adam and Eva walk up to the pond.

That's actually the little house right there, hinged out of the frame frame right is right there if they and of course it's all dressed with the lilies and the whole thing, and I love it.

It's just dry as a bone fifty yards back.

But they're there by this pond.

The spigott had been turned on.

The water is babbling down plumb Creek.

And he proposes at that point, and of course he calls himself a stupid pig farmer, and Adam had or Yeah, Charlotte has to sort of prop him up and tell him he's wonderful.

Charlene is quite lovely.

I mean, oh, Charlotte, it's a wonderful as she's wonderful.

Also, I'd like to add that Miss Beetle also had her her you know, little plans of how should I'll go to his house and I'll talk to him, yes, right of course, and I also talk to the boy's father.

Yeah, and I love so.

Then they get the proposal in and there's a little kiss there and it's very sweet, and Luca Nelly, you're watching, and Luke talks about the fact I think my dad's getting ready to get married again.

He liked being married.

He and my ma were so happy together.

It's is a really sweet thing, you know, when you have a child watching his wants to see his father be happy, knows that this is a good thing, knows that he was always happy before.

I think that's a that's a nice thing.

The stepmom, because it's Miss Bee, she's cool, Miss Beetle's wonderful, she'll be fun and hey, they're a very loving, functional family.

And I raised him alone, but he's been great with him.

And then in the next breath, I think we should get hitched, and you say, oh, I don't know if I'm old enough, don't know if I know enough to be a wife, and not sure if I'm good enough for you.

That sweet, because I have some brain cells left I know.

No, I'm not getting married you weirdo.

And wait, I'm also Nelly Elson.

I just remembered, why are you marrying me?

Yes?

Well, no, I think it's I think you're being a little hard on yourself there.

I think you're really that's like a real moment of honesty there where you're saying I'm not sure I'm old enough I'm not sure I know enough to be a wife.

I know, and I'm not sure I'm good enough for you.

I come from a dysfunction from my mother's taught me nothing.

I don't know how to cook or do any wafey stuff, and I don't know, I have no idea.

I come from a bunch of disturbed, narcissistic lunatics.

So maybe i'd be terrible in a marriage.

Eh, didn't he also say like nonsense, my mom was younger than you, and yeah, no.

Exactly noah, which which then after after, after miss Beatle has accepted or been proposed to, then there is the wonderful scene in the school yard.

It's a parallel scene where you come and ask about marriage and she gives you the advice, which or she's responding for herself, but it's really for you.

Sorry you awf we go.

Because she was what about my age, the age it should make it?

Yeah, love shouldn't.

Yes, when I was on the swing crying when she did come to me, and I am again it's teenage seething.

I am a miserable teenager.

There's the nelly fake crys, really crying, and then there said, yeah, it's that that cry.

I'm going to like you you did something during with that cry with your lower lip, and I was thinking, does she have a retainer in her hide?

Embraces?

Done?

Wax all my braces?

Did you think you get I could see it in the in the side view.

You can.

Lip like this, which might have just been tension from crying, but but imbraces from.

Here to here and clear back, so the wax would go like right here, right here, at across here, and it was probably been we've been adding all day, you know, So I'm which I had it there by that time.

Of the day.

And then yeah, and I didn't want it to show.

And then also so yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yes it was.

It was very odd, but it also completely served the It totally served the Yes.

Yeah, okay, so we take a break and when we come, well.

We just did take it.

We did take a break.

We took a break while you were taking a break.

So we're continuing, No, we're continuing on.

So yeah that it was a good break, but not as good as it would have been if you'd been there.

Thanks, Ye, okay, So Willy ratted me out.

Willy ratched me out.

Yes, you've left.

He eventually rats you out.

I mean, he really didn't nobody out.

Why didn't you tell us?

You didn't ask me?

He couldn't have cared less.

He was probably happy ago.

I just noticed in rewatching.

I don't even remember this at the time, if I noticed at the time, when they say when they get there and they left in our buckboard, we stole my parents, Cary your guy, but we technically stole my mom's car to do it, because we left with Yelson's buckboard.

I stole my Barret's car.

My high school boyfriend used to steal his parents car and then come and pick me up, and I'd be paranoid.

Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

In New York, New Jersey, in New Jersey.

In New Jersey, my husband stole his parents car but got caught in the driveway.

In the driveway, in his driveway, No, no, his driveway, his driveway a teenage, that's right, when he was a kid.

Paches are so dumb, y'all.

They're so dumb.

I mean, their brains do not form, and our brains don't feel the form till we're twenty five.

They're so dumb, which which which leads us to the justice of the piece in sleepy eye and really one of the wonderful fun scenes in this show, the getting the yeah, the amerriage scene.

So riot talk about let's let's talk about Ivor Francis, who is really one of the wonderful character accurates everything anytime.

IMDb is like ten thousand pages.

He was in everything.

But what's really weird is if you look him up.

There was a television show in the nineteen sixties called Here Come the Brides.

It was really cute.

Bobby Shuman, I think, yes, the thing and Ivor was in an episode of Here Come the Brides and his name was Barnum.

Do you know what he's credited as his name being in this episode.

Called Here Come the Brides?

Varnum Varnum.

That's right, that's Varnum.

Yes, Michael Landon going, I don't what, wow, Wow.

It's just it's it's such a funny and you know, and and uh luke genius because you really didn't.

You didn't have much to say other than I do, but played that per really really nicely.

That that dumb the ring that you know, yes, put the ring on this finger and say with this.

Stop that each other.

No, he this was you know this was a little gem piece of casting with this, with this actor, and he got to play this runner.

There were what three back to back scenes where he's being woken up out of a sound sleep.

It's hilarious and it's very very solid, and yeah between the two of you, and then Harriet Harriet and Nell's and then the return for the annulment, which is, well, we don't want to jump through the we don't want to return for the annulment.

I mean the first ceremony okay, then talk about of Luke and.

Nelly, which is hilarious.

Also this humor with the judge, all the judge scenes.

I mean again, I didn't know Michael Landon personally, but it does sound like Michael Landon humor right, like completely and utterly Michael Lindon jokes Michael Linden timing, Yeah, with the comedy.

Okay, so y'all get hitched, and again the what do I do with the ring?

Just put it on this finger and say with this ring?

Can you do that?

Sure?

I can?

And he puts it on the judges.

I'm like, and then as soon as the ceremony is over, what happens?

What do we do now?

Hotel we're in that, We're.

Going, We're going, We're getting a room.

Bountchick About by eighteen hundreds version of About chick abow Bow which is wow wah, which is David Rose kind of doing the stripper kind of thing, and the was going over the gorgeous antique screen, I beautiful, and then the clothes going over.

The thing, and then we're not go.

We come out with this.

Why am I so nervous?

Because I wasn't too nervous when I said, you really yeah.

You really weren't nervous when he was like, I guess.

I was so not nervous all the way up to them.

But then it's like she is fifteen and it's like, oh wait, I'm in a hotel room with a strange dudent.

I'm married.

Yeah, wait what am I doing here?

The panic sets it.

With the sleep cap on and yeah all that nothing nothing sexy about this bedroom?

Right.

He the srip my head that is hysterical with the hair due the curls are up in my it's my real haircut.

Just tie my hair up in the little rags like yeah, and then he's in the long john, so yeah, we look really silly.

Music is.

Very silly music, romantic with a.

Yeah, well with the jaw harp is just classic.

And then that tells you everything about where that wherever this is.

But we're looking, We're gonna go through with it.

We do love each other, and I'm like, well.

I guess this is it?

Okay, thank and then the door kicks in and she Cafin's greatest line in history.

Make her a widow.

Yeah, it's it's it's classic, and then she has that.

She has a couple of those throughout the series.

There are a couple of those kinds of hysterical moments where she and Nell's are.

I'm trying to think there was one.

There's a wonderful moment I think with with.

Nell's In an episode, Dad's greer is in the scene and she calls it Nell's a wretch and I but it's the same energy.

She brings, that same kind of and they they wrestle with the gun and the gun goes off.

And them, yeah, we did we did it.

In the Keysia one, she starts screaming, shoot, shoot, and I get to say, you've got the gun.

I mean, it's like you that's it.

I also, I also want to take note maybe this is this happened earlier when Nels and missus Olsen and Harriet are in the bedroom and she says he does another classic rhyming oh yeah, which she says, you never had any taste, and he says you're right.

She says what he goes good night?

Yes does it?

Those are hysterical.

It is so hysterical.

I love this.

Okay, So the gun goes up, he runs out.

He runs, what are you doing in your long johns?

Yeah?

Right?

Nice, nice nice, And we all go back in.

That poor man, that poor man is like, what wod you say?

What does Walter Grove have against me?

Right?

So then they all go in.

They get that was not a legal divorce, just tearing about it.

Sure was just tearing it up, but it's served might not have.

Been a legal wedding, was a legal divorce.

But fifteen is fifteen age of consent in eighteen.

Seventy four, I mean apparently maybe it must have been good.

Could could someone?

I could someone have said yes?

And in eighteen eighty something at fifteen years old, I mean fifteen.

I mean god, I think there's some states now we're fourteen Karen's permission.

I think which is like that, but there, I don't know that and those days fifteen could have absolutely been marriageable.

Yeah yeah, well I think there's no doubt that people were married at that age.

And maybe not a Minnesota.

I don't know, but I have to think.

So was it a legal way to begin with?

And then it was an illegal norse?

So it's all like, well, it's all over.

I don't know.

I committed big and me when I married Percival.

I don't know what's just to have it?

It might right, that might have a scandal, the secret scandal.

Yeah, there you go.

Well, okay, so he tears up the paper.

But then Adam Diva say, Adam.

And Eva and I love that.

Are you kidding me?

Adam and Eva?

He go they, I mean, there's yet another run of fun.

And here's my favorite line in the episode, which is he's so Adam and you are getting married, and they say, Luke, will you be my mess man?

Nelly?

Will you be my you know, made of honor?

And he goes, okay, you go here you go?

Here?

Where do I go?

He goes, you don't want to know?

Is where you?

Where would you like me to go?

And stay?

I died too.

I literally on that one.

And then my beautiful and now ex husband we sneak and hold hands.

Yes, you're holding hands by which is a lovely moment.

And then we never see him again.

Yes, now was that the end entered.

The vortex y'all way with wife and one short leg shorter the other.

The other.

Yeah, he's in.

That vortex of one hit wonders on the prairie.

That stuttering girl she moved in with him too, I guess, But it's you know, it's it's it's a very once that there's and everyone's very amicable.

This marriage has just taken place.

There's hugging, kissing, fade to black, I mean, and happy.

That's the end and end credit, And there are there are episodes that do end that way where you literally get the moment that you're looking for and it's over.

Yeah, that was it, we got all.

That was it.

But all the moments do we ever see because Miss Beatles is still I mean, she finishes out season four, she turns into missus Sims and then do we ever see him?

I don't think we ever see him.

We don't ever see him again.

Why that would have that would have been?

That would have been, well, look, it's a budgetary.

We didn't need it.

You're just not going to do this.

Just didn't want to give them any more.

Yeah again, but to not see and.

Their agents quite rightly would have said, wow, is he a recurring now husband Oh and then so it wouldn't have been a one episode pay or a day player or a guest star fee.

It would neib been a ghost would be significantly more money.

And he could have been Look, he could have been recurring.

Kevin Hagen was recurring.

They did that.

A lot of regulars were, which.

Is amazing, which he was recurring.

He never had a contract, Like I don't know Kevin Hagen.

And everybody, I think, like half the town because when they first started, this isn't going anywhere, and like, do you want to sign a contract?

Why don't you just be recurring people?

So that was was that a point of contention with those actors?

Worse, it was I mean, that's crazy, Kevin said at the time, he thought, oh sure, because they didn't think it was gonna go anywhere initially, and it was like, do you want to.

Do a whole contract on how many years and be tried to or would you.

Like to be recurred because remember their character actors and they worked all the time.

Of course, at the time, Kevin said, yes, when I first did it, oh, yeah, we don't need all that.

I'll be recurring because ha ha ha ha.

He says.

Then after a couple of years, was like, that wasn't really such a good decision.

Maybe, And then he said, one hundred years later, he went, what was an idiot?

Why did I not ask man?

I asked for contract?

We kept with recurring.

I should have insisted on contract day one when they had a chance at it, because it would have made significantly.

Knowing what we know, I wonder actually what his real chances of getting a contract, I think it.

Would have been very minimal, very fine.

Yeah.

I think that Michael had a very very particular set of standards about all of that, and everything was based on call sheet numbers.

Yeah, and uh, and that's you know, those contracts.

Those contracts were very very few, very.

Kevin talked about that, you know, and there was like an inquire thing like, oh, I didn't make enough money, and he's like, no, I didn't want it to be mean.

I'm just saying he said, yeah, he should have paid you more.

Money says, but I also I'm the idiot who went, oh, yeah, that's a great idea.

I'll be recurring, he said.

I thought that made sense, and I was really wrong, and I needed for future young people get the.

Contract and with that, and with that, with the with the with the Adam Simms disappearing into the vortex, that's our time.

I think we need to we need to run for the exit.

There, yes, happily.

After he did.

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This was so much fun at visiting this episode, Alison, you rock.

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