Look, may oh, I see you my own look over there is that culture.

Yes, goodness, lost cult ding.

Dong lost culturistas calling bro bro.

You for a second, had a moment there where you forgot we were calling each other bro.

I did.

But today over text, I think we were talking and sort of exasperatedly, I said, bro, Bro.

But I've been.

Saying bro, I'm down to call each other bro.

But bro bro Very Marisol and Alexia Cody?

Which is us?

Which is us?

You know, it's funny like we're saying these words like Alexia Marisol.

Our guest has no idea what we're talking about.

We just had to explain to him who Tom Girardi was, and it was I think he learned, internalized, internalized, and he externalized is brilliance.

Oh my goodness, I am.

I can't wait to internalize into Performance Space NYC.

The Venue is a new show, Color Theory.

Color Theories, very external title very you think of colors when you when.

You say it?

In fact, I even work sort of a color today.

You did.

For those of you are watching the podcast on our YouTube channel, I'm wearing blue.

This is so interesting and I think I'm gonna save this until we bring him in.

But I think you are such a specific audience to go see this show about colors.

A color blind individual, as.

A color blind king.

Yeah, but do you.

Think I'll still like it?

I think some jokes will be like, oh, I don't I don't know what chartreuse is.

I guess that's not for me.

That's a niche humor.

Can I say what chartreuse sounds like?

Sounds like some kind of red char char is our fire.

Oh interesting?

Well, yeah, they came up with the color name after Pokemon, so that's that might be why it's blue.

No, what is it?

It's like a greenish yellow like yeah, well now I've heard everything.

Now.

Color Theories is playing on a limited run twenty two performances only September third.

I wonder if there's anything to the number twenty two.

I wonder if Swift Taylor Swift, and it's all numerology.

It's not just Color Theories, it's also a numerology.

What if we found out that there's been Easter eggs for years, decades, Yeah, that Julio has been doing Easter eggs.

Well, I want to talk to him about numbers because I feel like he's done a lot of great material about letters, and now about colors.

I don't shape really shapes, of course, I wonder if numbers are his next foray?

Well, foura, he's right there, he's right, let's ask well, let's ask him.

Okay, this is color theory.

September third through September twenty second, get your tickets, color dash theory.

Those of the days.

I was like looking for cue cards, you know those.

Oh, we don't need the cue cards.

Oh no, who do you think we are?

Seth Myers.

We don't need a produce, a segment producer running.

You don't have an earpiece or anything.

You just like, look checks have you looked in our ear holes today?

Wow?

And you just need the date.

I don't know the dates.

Well, September third through September twenty second, twenty two performances and only a performance space NYC.

I'm going on September tenth, which I heard is like one of the big nights.

That's the big nine to ten.

Yeah, well, why don't you go on nine ten with me?

I'm going opening night.

I want to I want to wear I want to I want the opening night playbill.

Oh for your collection my collections?

Well, everyone, do love framing your playbill?

I don't.

Actually, that would be fun.

Disparaging comment loves to disparage me, making fun of the fact that I was an erstwhile pitizen.

Now, everyone welcome to yours.

He's our great friend.

He's a fresh off a Peabody win for Rasmus problem Sta.

I actually presented our guest with his Gotham Award for Best I Love Lead Performance in a Comedy Series with our friend alongside his partner.

He's partnered Jimmy Scully.

Now everyone welcome.

For the fifth time, perhaps on last culch our friend, our family Taurus.

Wow, Hello, Hello, Hello.

Do you think I'll enjoy the show despite being color impaired.

I enjoy you so.

Much, I do, I think so, yeah, Yeah, yeah, I can.

I can go through the You know what I'm gonna do.

I Am going to go through my outline and highlight the parts that I think you will enjoy and give you a percentage of how much of the show I think you'll enjoy it less.

I think that will be helpful.

And then you have to grade each each beat, each moment of the show on a scale of zero to one hundred, and.

Then like the the moments that I don't think we'll resonate with you are just an a.

And will you allow me at that point to just sort of get up and walk around the space?

Yeah, so at that point of the show, you can you can like schedule a meeting whatever you need.

Out of my earphones.

Hey, yes, no, yes, of course it's a good time.

Of course.

No, I'm just missing this part that he doesn't think.

No, no, he told me.

He told me, he told me, they go, I go.

No, he told me.

Yeah, this part's an A.

It's probably fifteen or an a.

Yeah, fifteen percent.

Wait, how many how many sections in the island are there?

Let's get into it.

Let's get into that.

I want to know, I love I love.

Yeah, that's a really great way of promoting work.

How many sections?

How many many sections can we expect?

We expect?

I think there's broadly, there's broadly.

I'm gonna say six chunks, six chunks, six chunks.

Yes, chunk number two, So I like doing check and be like, can we go back to chunk number three?

I want to go to the like just at the top of chunk three, there was a moment in the chunk that I wanted to work.

Were you ever properly theater boys, I wouldn't say.

In college, I mean like Matt did shows, I did not.

I did so I was always a writing student, but they allowed me to do shows.

There was one like Cool Theater and Cool wanted m y U called Experimental Theater Wing where they like didn't give a middle fingers.

It's very like, bro, you know what I mean?

It was like we were.

They wouldn't take anyone that was talented to come do shows.

Otherwise you couldn't.

Okay, because I am learning a lot of like theater lingo rules, like.

God, Mike, God Mike.

I knew God Mike.

You're seeing m Yeah, they have flash cards for me.

What do you mean?

Oh that's so cute?

Like no, I like things like like opening Night is not the first because I was like, there's a mistake in the calendar, because why is Opening night after after?

And what is what?

Were we viewing this too?

Right?

That is something that we preview as a trailer because I come from film.

And you have to learn a lot.

I have to I have to unlearn.

Yeah, I have to unlearn a lot or like the concept of this being an off Broadway show.

How does that make you feel?

Like like I don't understand why bring like mentioning a street that has nothing to do with the show, Like, it's also not on Canal Streets, off Canal Street, it's.

Also like off Yeah, can you say on First Avenue?

Yeah, it's not an off Broadway show, it's an on First.

That's really good.

Did they ever tell you what distinguishes an on Broadway and off Broadway show?

The reasonable shock.

Is like the number of seats.

Is the most?

Is the max number of seats you can have an off product?

Okay, so question, Yeah, a wedding can be off Broadway or it gets crazy.

Seats, it's a Broadway wedding.

Depends how many friends you have.

If you're a If you have a lot of friends, you're a big Broadway star.

Now why are you thinking in terms of weddings?

What do you pop the question?

Well, this would be a great place to into wedding plays.

You would be amazing at it.

Actually, nothing would arrive on time.

Imagine if I like actually was responsible for like the culture has to get here at this time so that we can put it in the free starve.

Right, It's everything that you love, but nothing about the logistical execution stuff is ever going to be okay with you.

You're never gonna wear a hat set and tell people, Okay, release the doves.

You're never gonna do that.

Release what you just said, though, I think he would love like I think you will always release the always released the release the doves as soon as you know they're captured.

Did you ask some hoow they feel well?

Because if they want to be released and released them at once, release the as soon as you find out they're in a case.

Yeah, I'm just bringing that up as an example of there are there there's things operationally or whatever that you have to like hit as a wedding planner.

But releasing the doves, I'm just saying, like kicking out the intruder.

Yeah, there's always one.

They saw the movie Wedding Crashers, very scary, very scary.

What straight men can do.

I do think that they're capable.

It is surprising to me.

And wait, okay, I P I P for the two of you.

Gay wedding planner, gay wedding crasher, a.

Wedding gaze because it is a type of gay man who is always at a wedding.

Yeah, and I couldn't be me.

I'm not really, but.

You know what I mean.

Where like you look at the pictures and it's like, how many like girls from college?

You know?

Oh for sure they're like constantly at a wedding, Yes, and the capture is always like about last night.

Yeah, I'm taking umbrage with gay guys who are constantly at their mother's seaside house in Hyennas where there's a kind of gay guy like just like, Okay, I'm just saying, like a seaside town, seaside must must be nice seaside gays.

Seaside gaze and I go, by the way, does go back to six chunks?

Because I think there's no less compatible word for Julio Torras in the language than chunks than chunks.

Yeah, how does chunks make you feel?

It made me feel like maybe I have to have more appreciation for what I do.

Yeah, well, I refer to it as chunk.

So you're looking at this in a positive way, And it's good because it is the title of app so far that in case you can, in case you can sort of you can conjure up something better right now, it's.

That is unfortunately a really good title, but maybe you're coming around on the words.

The picture of the three of us, like inevitably that we take at the end of the episode, smiling and it says.

Chunk chunks, kind of love, kind of cool, kind of cool.

Wait, what was I gonna say about a weddings seaside gays?

I'm just bringing this up as as I know what's a problem.

There's no problem, just like there's you took umbrage.

I take umbrage with gay guys.

Were just like a different place every single every single day.

You did.

You just did a lot of you just had a busy itinerary.

I'm not I'm not calling you out.

I'm just speaking of gays.

I take hombridge with.

Smaking.

I don't like you.

You know what?

You know what.

I was just in Fire Island for doll Invasion.

Yes, that was really fun.

I did not get to meet Lost's Massacre.

Yeah, she was there.

That was obsessed with.

I think Lostious Massacre, if they are lucky, should be like a like a Daily Show correspondent or or or like uh a how to with John Wilson.

But it's like Luscious Massacre really good.

It's like.

Kung Gun Earth, but luscious Masters.

On Earth, the lustrous massacre about different stores.

They're drug investigating different stores.

Yeah, that would be amazing.

Drag investigating.

I like, yeah, investigating, drug investigation.

Isn't that what she calls it?

I think so, yeah, she us she drug investigates.

I think if look, you're a big mover and shaker and the biz in the Hollywood, in Hollywood not a no, I would say, I am soundly off Hollywood.

You are off Hollywood A twenty four off Yeah, yeah, off the beaten path, Off the beaten path.

They made that movie civil War, they made for Civil War.

Yes, they made that movie Civil War.

Hereditary?

Oh did they do hereditary?

I think they did hereditary?

Of course they did so creative.

Shout out to the the hand that fed that, the hand we love that and we never buy.

Have you known about a little bit of not?

It's it was brilliant minds that made the film that made a little diva ahead, come off.

Rewind.

So you mayall from the Culture Awards, which you've attended many years, many times.

You've been at most of them.

I've been at all.

Three has been three, right, there's been four even three of them?

For I've been at least three.

Yeah.

You first year you helped us introduce the macarena.

Yeah, yes, yes, was that the first year.

It was the first year it was outside in h that was really good.

And then I think you came back for Kings Theater.

Yes, you came back at theater and that was when you you presented an award.

I know, I know that's the I know that's the year till the one.

Yeah, maybe artist the Millennia to kill Swinton and I don't know if that was my category, but that is why I think we played it that We were like, okay, till that's gonna win on some money and so cool, we should present That's how he sold you know, ahead of time.

Yeah, well, peeling back the curtain.

There's no there's everyone is aware of the fact that we know the winners kind of way before and we.

Don't don't be on this, be true to this, okay.

And then this year you I think in a highlight of the show, you and Kate really tore it up with most thrilling threat.

Kate was so delicious.

Well, I think my favorite part of the show, it's it changes every day, but my current favorite part of the show is Kate Kate accepting the award on Yeah.

Yeah, no, one fell out and I fell out.

She goes.

I just want to say, seriously, guys, thank you so much for giving me the opportunity.

Seriously, the opportunity to perform, to perform, Matt, Matt, Matt does it?

I think even better than Kate.

Oh no, you know what did you think?

I actually do want to know?

What did you think of the movie?

Magic in that part?

Yes, because there was thunderclaps, there was did you see when you.

Smelled the rose?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, and there was sort of a minor chord.

Yeah, it's it was How long did the edit take?

Uh?

I guess, like all told, it was like a really tight so it was like a week.

Yeah yeah.

How does that make you feel?

As a post production king, a post production supervisor?

Did you like to be in the edit bay?

No?

No, no, I'm not.

I'm I from home.

Yeah.

Is it about watching yourself or it's just about the process of like, okay, like I know what happened, I already know what happened.

Oh, it's the novelty.

It's the novelty has worn off.

Yow.

You know in theater, you won't have that you won't have to think about that.

No post production in the number sixteen.

There's no post production in theater.

You're gonna love it.

But what about what about the thought of doing it every night?

What what about the thought of doing it every night?

This is why there's only I perform?

Really is that?

Because all you can is all you can handle?

And it's not numerology, right, there's no secret to the number twenty two.

Easter is really fun.

I can do, I can Yeah.

Yeah, Miss Swift and I we we have the life of a show girl.

Life of a show girl.

Sweater in my car.

I think I left the sweater in his car.

This is good.

Yeah you like that.

Yeah, you're powerful.

When Taylor she hasn't done blue sweater.

In his car, I mean he wronged me.

You you are onto something with cars?

She did.

The car is a common word.

Girls loves a car.

Scarves, scarves, sweater car she has, she says about sweaters.

Okay, she's she's a song called cardigan.

There you go.

What do you think of her color right now?

Being orange?

How do you relate to orange?

Being the color theorist that you are.

I think I wouldn't have linked her to orange because I.

Don't think many people would have and I think that's almost why I.

Think I think that's why she's she.

I would assume that because orange is a very.

Intrepid, warm, uh like like nineties kind of.

You probably do orange very well color.

I don't think so.

I think I'm attracted to orange, but I don't think.

I don't think I do orange.

He is attracted to orange.

I think I.

Would call your hair and and you think, literally, you need to come to the show and learn.

God, this is color theory.

This is literally okay before we get into the color theories, and then we won't spoil the show obviously, right, I want.

I will pink wins, Oh, pink wins and yellow dyes.

Wait, sorry that before I forget, Before I forget, Okay.

I have been trying to get people to do this with me, and I think that you you might be the perfect people.

Is just go find a straight up beauty pageant.

And just sit through it.

Oh, I would love that, like a.

Regional beauty pageant.

M hm.

One year we we got a house in the Hampton's Sorry, but this was right after an sl and like Me's the last and eighty and friend when we like we just kept and hiding and we all watched Miss America from the eighties and it was so fun.

It was actually really fun to watch a vintage beauty pageant televised beauty.

Okay.

You know what I'm also obsessed with is male beauty pageants.

I'm talking about like not like not like Arnold, like like talking like like the most gorgeous men from every nation in tuxedos.

Oh, that's probably, And was it very like?

I wonder you should host one.

I would love that beauty.

You should host one.

You should.

One.

It would be an amazing.

Yeah.

I think that would represent America very well.

Give me, give me some time in the gym.

So there is this really really cringey video of like okay, so my favorite part of a beauty pageant is their like national outfits.

Yeah, you know, I'm talking about that represent their culture, represent the culture.

And there's this really represent the culture of course.

And there's this really cringey video of like the male beauty pageant and it's like they go one by one and it's like Vietnam and it's like US and and it's like, you know, the countries that are going to flop so hard.

It's like you know that like Japan is going to be gorgeous that like right, But then it's like, you know, it's like Australia.

It's like, okay, we have the khaki shorts, right, Yeah, and then they get to the US.

How gun was it?

Well?

Jeans, Well, if only they had gone cowboy, right, I loved only they had gone with Cowboy.

No, it was truly a party city Captain America.

Yeah, costume, that's really like plastic shield.

I'm speechless.

It's like saying what our culture is like superhero like superhero fake nationalism.

Great, Yeah, that's really and this is recent I think, so this is why they got something right back in the day.

I'm not saying like the eighties were a better time.

I'm just saying, did you say that all the time?

I do say that all the time, but not on the records.

Off the record?

Is the first on the record that you've really.

My Reagan rants are Reagan Raves.

Yeah, I love Reagan Raves.

I think that it's just fun.

It's just it's more it's that's a good title.

Reagan tres.

I think there's something fun and time capsule about like watching an old beauty Patrick, I think a current one makes me think too much about the current state of things.

Like Williams Codd.

Yeah, she had to win in like eighty five eighty six because she famously was They had to take her title away because she had post topless and they gave it.

It's very puritanical, extremely yeah, they never would have done.

Yeah.

So, in fact, I can't really think of many people that have won Miss America except the two black women.

Who won it early early, early on.

One was Vanessa Williams and the other was Kenya Moore who then became like one of the most famous real housewives of Atlanta.

So she was like a real mover in Shako and Moveo and.

Shako Ando that long island.

I didn't even that.

Actually, I actually can't want that from the island.

That's just impediment, okay, which.

I've never had until this moment.

She was a real move in Koe.

But no, I feel that they are the most famous Miss America's right.

Uh oh Olivia coolpo oh, Yes, I know.

She She was married to Nick Jonas.

She dated Nick Jonas.

She's actually friends with Dave Mazzoni from high schools because of Rhode Island.

She was Miss Rhode Island and then she went on to not only become Miss America, but she also won Miss Universe.

Beautiful girl.

You be shocked the universe.

Yeah, she want all the love.

Miss Universe.

Is like, I'm sorry, until we discover intelligent life elsewhere and they get to compete, you can't call it Miss Universe.

Yeah, when will that?

You can't.

You can't.

Did you see there was a breaking news report that someone found planet.

She she just missed the doll invasion was coming for it was late, but no, they they said, breaking news.

There was a.

Breaking breaking news.

I wish I had had pulled it up, but I didn't know we were get here.

In the conversation I should have known, though, they were just like, it's like a clip that they keep showing of like what is clearly like a small bird running past like a security like and it was just this woman being like, I don't know what it is.

I don't know what it could be.

I just know that I can't stop thinking about it.

It's like it's a bird.

They're like alien life spotted.

I'm like, it's a bird that it's you know, it has that plumage in the back when they get excited or road run around sort of like that.

I felt that so cute.

So somebody to say, unless you have any knowledge that you know, we don't know that there's intelligent life, and I lie, Miss Saturday isn't on her way.

We don't know that.

We don't know that.

Jesus, you know what I think we should do.

I think other cities in the West do this thing.

Certainly Vancouver does it.

Because I did this.

I attended a like a kind of a competitive sort of like drag competition where different establishments and businesses along the Gay Street in Vancouver submit a person to do like a dragon number.

I think it should be a beauty pageant of like New York bars, a queer New York bar, like animals.

Where like like they're representing the different years.

Yes, and there should be like a beauty pageant in that regard.

Eagle, Yes, yes, don't you think that could.

Be really fun?

The eagle, animal, exulely whatever, Phoenix like they all they all Phoenix, Miss Xley Phoeni there's there all a seventeen year old they all qualify.

Yes, it doesn't matter.

We need to see all of them.

They all must compete.

I love that must it's you don't lure, that's aron event.

Oh my god, that does an event for Wait, we have to do this, we have to I'm telling you.

The way he would smiles so politely at that idea.

I think he'd be into it, because, you know, someone tagged me in a photo of Zorn with his arm around someone in a little bro jersey my merch like, and I was like, you know, and little bros get it, the little bros get it.

Get it to Anyone with a little bro or big bro jersey, that's a voter.

And that's actually a culture number twenty.

Anyone with a little bro or big brow jersey, that's a Zorn voter.

The little bro that's your that's your base, that's your your.

Little I speak to little bros and big bros equally.

I would say, I think that anyone can sort of choose what their vibe is.

But little bro is sort of something when you want to be treated in a way that would suggest maybe you want a big bro.

You want to be diminutive in the face of big bro.

Oh you're kind of big bro.

You're big bro who is very big broncho.

Yes, arn shoe.

He gets up and leaves.

I always hated doing this.

Ye, you keep fucking begging, your fucking little show, and it's like, and now they have this office.

Oh my god, they keep bagging and I do it because I feel sorry.

I missed the headphones.

I miss I do feel naked headphones.

But really, what I was gonna say, Beauty patant adjacent?

Is I realizing that I am sort of making this true because I am doing the Halloween party again.

Oh?

Yes, fine, And I want you lean in to the costume contest.

Yes you should.

Okay, you our new Heidi Clue.

Yes, yes, Heil, we have a new one.

Now here's a name for the party.

Okay, okay, So last year it was the Curse Stimulant.

Yes, yes, of course everyone remembers.

It was the the that was in everyone's mouth, curse Au.

I met that you are you announcing?

You were you brainstorming?

I'm I'm announcing slash Work Shopping.

Okay.

Firry Taylor Swift.

Firry Taylor Swift.

Yeah, yeah, I love announcing the name.

Mommy's moods.

Mommy's moods.

Really good.

I love that you can get so many.

I think we're gonna have swings, swings, swings.

I love that you understand Mommy's moods.

But okay, so in and just like that font Mommy's moods the next chapter in the Cursed Amulet story.

I really like that.

There's so many ways to go.

How is the amulet connected to Mommy?

Oh, I think that the Amulet is responsible for Mommy's mood.

I was gonna say, Mommy wears the amulet and gets in a mood.

Mmm, it takes over or it's just one person wearing.

The amulet and there was a real as a result of being in the atmosphere of that person.

Everyone gets in a certain.

Everyone enters Mommy's mood.

Yeah, I think that's it.

I think it's like Mommy's moods is like a realm Yes, okay, I like any time there's inside out for someone that has should be medicated.

Yeah, yep, yeah yeah.

They'll never explore that.

I think that they will.

The coward, their coward.

They will never explore Mommy's moods.

Universe.

They actually well, I actually think that.

Is a Disney Pixar that you would like Mommy's moods no, inside out too, inside up too.

They went further than I thought they would.

They went, they went for it.

They really got into anxiety in a way where I was like, huh and my therapist actually was like you should see this, and I was like I already did, and I loved it.

So inside out three.

Mommy mommy moods.

Okay, so there's there's this, this mood swings, there's there should be like a I don't know what this says yet, but like a not right now moment.

You know, it's like that.

That's like that the meme like not right now, Mommy's blank, Mommy not right now?

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Mommy's feeling mommy's feeling distant, mommy's feeling complacent, mommy's feeling insecure.

Today, or like you have to come do this right now.

Yes, mommy's feeling impatient, mommy's feeling overwhelmed.

Okay, here is the Okay, actually this this will be very productive.

I have two options.

Wednesday the twenty ninth, Okay, Thursday the thirtieth.

Oh god, let's see, we might have to be out of town.

Okay, wait, but you're just very sad, like what what do you think about we're not we're in general, we're out of town.

I like ad I like a Wednesday Halloween party has a little bit Thursday has has a little.

Too much stakes on.

You're making faces.

I feel like Thursday fine, fine, I just I think if anyone can like really program something on Halloween week and and it's interesting, like people need the ten poles and you could be the Wednesday teenpole.

But also Thursday is a guaranteed success Thursday.

Here's what you get if you do it on Thursday the thirtieth.

When the clock strikes midnight, it's hollows.

And mommy's mood and mommy, you actually got midnight.

Mommy's mood turns at midnight and then like all of a sudden, it gets like happy.

All the lights.

Yeah, we start all sitting.

That's why.

That's when the pizza comes.

That's nice.

Yeah, at midnight, mommy's mood will turn, but you don't know what it is and keeping and in five minutes mommy's mood will turn.

I love love, And then we announced mommy is now happy.

No one will know Mommy just got angry, and you get so I think what should happen is at eleven fifty eight, you should take the stage and you've written a two minute story and when it when the com strikes midnight, that's when you reveal how mommy feels about what happened, and the whole thing changes, and it's sort of like, yeah, have to kind of like it doesn't and everyone should have a reveal.

Yes, bring a reveal.

I'm not saying bring a costume.

I'm saying, bring a costume under the other costumes.

List your head.

I want to explain this again.

I don't want to explain this again.

And the reveal can't be that you're wearing a cloak over the costume too, for sure.

Yeah, and there is a lipsyn at four am, well.

Asked the mandatory lips and at four in the morning with the two and we're paying for everyone's uber back home.

Okay, okay, get over it.

Seven hundred ubers back home.

I'm excited about that, all this.

I'm very excited.

Okay, but okay, do it the thirtieth, and okay, do the thirty okay, even though okay, we can bleep out the venues, but the venue the twenty ninth is better than the one, oh, okay, and can you get about venues?

What are the venues?

Because you can move about with more ease, and it's like and it's important to be able to move.

And I'm on Halloween.

You're wearing big, big things, and the thought of like going into like a danceloor and not being able to no, of course escape it used bathroom.

There's the bathroom situation.

It's pretty bad, I don't think in but it's really that her thing.

But everyone was in what tank.

Right, of course.

And it was not Halloween.

Yeah, I mean last year who won the costume contest the co roach that was honorable mention to counting Usato.

Well yeah, I mean who was the roach?

We don't know.

Oh yeah, it was kind of chic, how like no one these there are figures who just disappear, like Demon Twink, I mean kind of maybe just got like cyberbullied off the face of the art.

It was Demon Twink, an actual person.

Yes, yeah, we were there on the boat when that happened.

Demon Twink was going off on a boat.

Can you give the story because not everyone might know.

So Demon Twink.

The words demon Twink came to be has an origin on a Tys Thunderland boat, the Britney boat where there was a twink at the very top of the boat on the top rail.

What do you mean at the top of the boat.

There's different levels like on the flag not on the flag.

No.

No, he was not like mounting.

He was not mounting that.

He was like he was very like Kate Winslet and Titanic, just like on like kind of like just like perch torched over like looking out at everybody and we could all see.

Him, and he was it was his book.

He was going off.

He was going off basically he was a startup dancing days.

But what Mademonic, Well, he was acting Christian not Christian.

He was so fucked up that he at one point made it to the DJ booth where ty was and like threw his drink on the on the board, on like the equipment and was just like acting out.

And then ty said, we don't know.

He was fucked up.

And then so then Tye tweets something along the lines of like, oh my god, not this demon twing.

So he coined demon coined demon twing.

Wow, so and that and that is sort of like it's sort of entered lexicon in a very seamless way.

What was the outfit.

It's like a black, black tank.

And then I think some sort of suggestive bottom, which he might have.

Been the suggestive bottom.

I think the suggestion was very clear, The diggestion was very clear.

Yeah, who wants to take this hole?

Well that person, there's there's others, say I was talking about this with friends lately, like that person cockroach at cursed amulant.

M hmmm, Like there are people the person who was in the mask during Wendy Williams is Halloween episode of what was that?

Yeah, Like, well you're thinking like anonymous New York anonymous people who icons but they don't want to make themselves known as those people.

These are these are they're right for?

Like like Batman villains?

Yes, right, the fag who.

Cried shark the.

Truck mad made himself known.

Fact, the fag who cried shark didn't have to do that.

Though.

There was a fag who cried shark when we were on Fire Island.

It's a long he didn't love that we talked.

About and you can go back to the episode the fat who cried Shark and hear all about it.

And he's a wonderful, wonderful resident of the town, member of the great member of the community, and we were we did not we did not do right by him.

No, I don't.

I don't think it was that big of a deal because it's not like it's not like the fag who cried shark was known worldwide.

We talked about it on this podcast because fifteen people saw something happen.

On the beach.

There was a there was a well first there was a shark and he was like shark, shark, shark.

Yeah, and it was sort of like he was nude and swanging and so it was like, okay, it was just a funny image.

It was funny, like this naked guy, dick, massive cocks, swinging around, yelling at every screaming at everybody.

Yeah, and there was no shark to be seen.

Then later it was confirmed.

It was confirmed.

So so who's offing now, No, it goes off the boy who cried wolf.

He should be completely valid.

Yeah, I get it.

Yeah, it's like you have to believe the fat who cried shark.

Yes, you have to have to be So it's the unknown liar is not.

People didn't believe he was a known like truth teller.

Honestly, he's.

You you would call him a seer.

I would call him a seer who sees what I see?

You know, see here, who who sees now mommy's mood sounds wonderful.

I still, I honestly think, gosh, there's just not enough time to plan this.

But there should be a bar, a queer bar pageant.

I think that there might be.

What do you mean, there's not enough time to plan it until November like like just like for if it.

Is because because things do it Also, by the way, the way, this is gonna bring community back to New York.

Hello, he did a scavenger hunt the other day.

Who did zorn?

A scavenger hunt?

He like, there was riddles.

He was leaving riddles on social media and packs hordes of people would show up.

This is what I don't want to see him do.

Okay, I do not I do not want to see him do thing.

No, that's fine.

The thing with the headphones where they're dancing on the street.

Silent rave.

No, he's not gonna do please I think he might.

Please don't do that.

Please don't do There's something about scavenger that's fun and not bound to time.

The way that a silent rave is always gonna be like Millennial two thousand and sixteen, Square is timeless, I think so.

Yeah, Scavengern got me in trouble in high school because you know, it was on the list go buy condoms.

That was like the taboo thing in high school.

Right by condoms and bring it back.

So then you go into the Dwayne Read and you're like, I'm buying condom and.

Then condoms illegal.

No, it was just more like team going into a Dwayne Read, going over to the condoms, picking one out, giving it to the person.

It's like, I still feel like this when I'm buying, like like like a douche, you know what I mean?

What do you call it?

You know what I mean?

I'm like, oh here, I am like looking as gay as I do buying douches, but I feel self conscious buying themsel times in a way like when I remember being a teen and doing a scavenger with my friends, it was always like, go by Magnum Excels right right, and then I one time did I can't remember if we want our lost ultimately unimportant.

My mother found those, and I don't know what she thought about me buying Magnums, but certainly she didn't.

Her mind didn't go to, oh, there must have been a scavenger hunt.

Her mind went been a cavender.

I know my Matt not at all.

No, it wasn't doing that.

Do your impression of MAT's mom.

I bet, I bet you wouldn't be that.

Have you met her.

I have met her.

She doesn't seem like like a weathering flower at all.

What I was doing, do the impression you think my mom is, and then I'll do a perfect impression of my mom.

Well, okay, the the my mind went to this person who is not your mom, which is like, there must have been a scavenger honey, would never, he would never.

Okay, so that's not that's not her.

But it's not super far off because it's more.

Like you're gonna do it, you do it.

Oh, hold on, hold on, Oh I guess there was a scavenger hunt.

Okay, listen, this is that was closer?

This is it?

Well, there must have been a scavenger hunt or something.

Well, you know, they have fun, the kids.

They do a scavenger hunt.

Sometimes it gets a little silly.

It's not for me, but you know, I guess has.

A big dick.

I guess it's a big old cock.

Well, you know, it's all right.

That's my mom.

Is that generally her attitude?

Yeah?

All right, cheerful.

So yeah, I would say things are generally all right.

And what she does when you think something is not alright as famously as she goes m So did you get a h hmmm?

Ariana Grande's favorite vocal tech?

Because I told her about on the set of what I told her about this thing that Matt's mom, marsh Simpson did the March Simpson.

What about March?

Okay, Sometimes when I can't fall asleep.

Sometimes when I can't fall asleep, I close my eyes and I rank what I believe are the most famous dresses in history.

Is Marge's dress always up there.

I realized that Marge's dress green column, green column, green column, because the number three?

Okay, can I get We talked about this on the show.

We said, what's the most famous dress you have?

Yes, we said it was Cinderella's cere number one.

Sorry no no okay, no no no, you probably just had just seen like March or something.

No no, no, no, no, no okay, undeniable a number one, Marilyn Monroe's white dress.

Yeah, yes, the JFK dress above the JFK R Yeah, yeah, yes, Or was that Jennifer Greenman one of those that's so like b is the pink is the yea, the one that the one that that Madonna?

Yeah, yeah, No, the white dress I think is number one, number two and number two the dress the black and blue ye if you if you google image the dress, that's what comes.

Well.

No, that that was I remember I was with Matt that night.

Do you remember where you were that it was at night?

It happened to the dress came and we came, dress came were we were right here, We were across No, we were from Carnegie Hall, were in Midtown and we were out of Deli across from Carnegie Hall.

When caps started honking, Dress said.

You need to remember you remember where you were.

This was a huge moment.

You need to remember.

You need to remember me to we saw the now we know we were.

We didn't see this.

We did not see you saw white and gold.

No, I saw black and blue.

Okay, so I saw I always thought it was black and blue.

It was black and blue.

I think we were on the same page.

People said it was white and gold.

Okay, so we we you and I were on the United Front and we were like, what are they all talking about?

And then everyone started being like it's white and gold and we were like, like, it's sort of it's that's when it became Trilight.

Zone, was it?

Do you think it's reality like split like forked at that moment, just just just in terms of like, is that when reality forked?

Is that when reality forked?

Well, for these reasons, this is number two and number three is March sim and I think number three is March Simpsonzy, do you have to say green dress?

Number fifteen is the dress is when reality?

For yes, for sure.

I just had to make sure that was known.

Of course the York Swan dress.

Yeah, Jay Loversaca dress, say that's higher than Marge's dress?

You think which one?

Jay Loversa It started to Google images.

You have it?

Did?

Yeah?

Okay, I want to put a dress out there.

Okay, do it your caters dressed and Titanic the one?

No?

No?

You thinking?

No?

That is it's top ten.

That is definitely like top four.

Hats.

I'm not talking about the hat.

I'm not the culture.

And so to start a conversation about hats wrong, that's wrong Okay, we're talking about I'm sorry to be so strong.

So you think you think you're you're thinking about like the sort of like Midnight Blue with the no, it was like a deep red with the beating black beating.

Is that the one where she's where she where he drowns and he's yes, she was ultimately wearing that.

Oh yeah, that's the same dress.

I don't think this is ok.

I think you're thinking about the character I think about you're thinking about the general costuming.

You're not thinking about it might.

Just be like ultra Titanic case and so it might be far if.

You like, if, if you can you draw that dress, I think I could really.

Oh that's a that's a criteria and you have to draw the dress.

Yeah, prove that it's so famous that it's so engraved in your mind to draw, draw.

Mar Simpson.

Anyone can do it.

It's now trying to think, are we missing anything here?

Oh?

So many?

I do think the Bell, Beauty and the Beast, like like Heinous Sierra in Yellow Yellow Lady Diana's Revenge dress.

Absolutely, who could forget?

Oh my god, Diana, Diana, she.

Was late, she was Yeah, And then I guess there's.

Like I think, I think honorable mentions to like Rihanna yellow, Yeah, yellow Chinese.

I do think that you have to give Marilyn probably a second one, which was the JFK Happy Birthday Dress, because then it did appear decades later on Kim Kardashian at the Metdala, So clearly there was a running back valuable dress.

The dress that returned and was famously tailored came back.

That's a good horror film.

The dress that came I haven't worn my wedding dress in decades.

Now my daughter is getting married.

Let's go to the attic.

They get there, the dress is alive and doesn't want to be worn by the daughter.

I think, wait, that's beautiful.

That's beautiful intergenerational expectations.

And there's ultimately a film about legacy that debut filmed.

But Matt Rogers, yeah.

I think that might be really good that I would write, and I think you would direct it.

Bowens, of course the star he plays the dress.

I'm not I want to be the dress.

Okay.

And were we talking like face super imposed in the in the chest of the dress or just voice.

It's motion capture, motion capture, Okay, you don't find out.

They're going to put you know, they're going to push Randy Sarkis.

He has enough, I feel, but can he play address?

I have to go.

Yeah, no, I have to go.

Hold on, I have to leave.

I have to go because he wants to go start writing the script.

It's just so good what Juli and I hadn't had a movie idea that.

Honestly, I think Matt would be the star of what was it?

What was it?

It was?

Hold On, I'm going to look it up.

I'm going to look it up.

I'm looking shoulder at the notes.

Dumb gay fat in the first minute of film, It's like, it's it's about a guy.

It's about a guy.

It's about I love this idea already.

Okay, we should write a movie about him called bla Okay he oh yeah, he is going to the first Summit.

He is at the Out and Equal Summit at Disney, and he and his flights keeping and counts.

He just wants to get to the summit.

Yeah.

Is he called the summit?

They can be called.

The credentials, the.

Credential.

I think Matt, Yeah good, I think Matt needs to I think we're gonna write I'm Matt Rogers vehicle.

Wonderful guys, thank you great, wonderful just to have.

You guys just get together and create.

You know what I feel like, I'm like a like a like a big actress that you're meeting at her production company and he's like, yeah, I'm so excited because I just love your mind, you know what I mean.

I'm just so excited your creativity and like, I just feel like this, so I just never know where it's going.

And that's what I love is to be surprised.

Like I'm looking for creative voices.

This is what Emma Stone said to you when you guys first met.

Oh, yeah, the creative voices feel She said that you're looking for creative voices.

Yeah, fresh talent from fresh talent.

I want fresh creative voices.

I miss talent I missed when we took Generals.

You know, now we don't at Generals anymore.

Like you mean like you mean like commuting to like communitys CBS and hearing about mandates, hearing about mandates.

Well, our my mandate is as long as it's fresh creative talent.

We're looking for fresh new voices.

I was so good at Generals.

I was I bet you were.

I was bet you were.

Yeah, I would, I bet you were.

It's hard to hear even though it's a compliment.

Tell you about a compliment.

It's a huge compliment.

Yeah, And I was always at them for too long.

Now that's how you know what's going well?

Oh yeah, did anything come out of them?

I think maybe years later in a way that I wouldn't remember because I did the point.

I did the thing of like I hit LA so hard when I first got there and took every general, so I generals didn't remember general's name like I was just like I left name of course something had so generals for for people who might not be in the know, it is general meeting you would just take at every single It.

Is crazy because no other industry does this where it's like agosy kind of it's kind of like a kind of.

You just like stop it and you're like, this is my deal, like it's to get to know you and then like as you said, like the point is so that eight years later they can be like, you know, who'd be good for this is Matt right, you know?

And it does yield fru it does it does bear?

I think it yielded some fruit.

Great.

I love that.

I know.

I think we should plan the patches.

That's all I'm saying.

I think that I think we should.

Yeah, I think probably.

Miss you know, Miss Animal is coming in hot.

Miss Animal is going to be.

Animal is going to be too much.

Animal is going to be doue to too much drugs beforehand and barely make it down the runway.

And you know what I'm talking about.

It's okay to say.

It's okay to say is going to show off like the ketamine shelf in the bathroom?

Yea, And yeah, I mean think it really does show miss Miss Miss MacRae Park actually really weren't sounds really nice?

By the way.

You know, last week we were.

Talking about a potential drag name that I came up with, and then all the readers descended into the comments and they were like, you were right there.

I thought.

Polarising, Miss Paula Rising, polarizing, polarizing.

It kind of feels like tripping a little bit, Paula, Like, it.

Feels like tripping polarizingly.

I don't know that.

I don't know what's her thing polarizing, She's polarizing.

It feels like a false start or something.

My sister laugh left.

I think I think it's laughed or left laughed, laughed, cut cut around that.

It's okay.

I don't know the word all the time.

I have some things to miss the cock?

What's that?

Miss the cock?

Miss the cock, missed the Eagle, Miss Miss therapy therapy.

No that ship?

Sorry, Miss industry.

Miss.

Do they still have Miss Boxers?

Yeah?

I think the miss Miss Boxers for sure.

Boxers Mis Barracuda would have been so amazing.

Do do.

Is is Miss Club coming?

No, because that's not a proper.

I think miss Miss Club coming works.

I think it's cupcoming works for sure.

That's certainly a queer bar.

You know.

I went there one time and it was m I actually went with a guy who was a friend, but I guess.

There was some messing around and went to lesbian knitting night.

That's cute.

It actually was cute.

It was lesbian craft night.

Oh beautiful, beautiful.

Yeah.

I think there should be I think there should be a Miss clubcoming.

I think there should be like a Miss elsewhere.

No, but that's just a venue.

No, that's a venue.

Okay, fine, that's a venue.

Hard and fast.

It takes place at elsewhere.

How about that?

No Javid Center, No Javid Center, Babe.

The first time ever.

You're like, let's go, don't get the David Center.

I swear to god, I'm not going.

Okay, if if anyone out there knows has a contact of javits, I think books, slash booking, event.

Event.

Yeah, it's your event.

In less than fifty words, okay, so it's a fundraiser.

They're like, no, no, and deeply in the Eric Adams box.

Miss David's we don't know.

That's so true.

I think she might be establishment.

Yeah, I think David Center is kind of gig convention.

Oh sure, yeah, comic con car shows.

Oho, this is and tell us we're wrong.

Yeah, prove it.

Host this, yeah, host this, host this.

This is the way to get it going.

Threats threats.

Yeah, Skittles was in your comments a bunch.

Yeah, maybe the Javid Sanders can be the new Skittles.

Yes, Skittles was in our comments of it because one time during COVID, like we did Instagram life from the Bath Yeah, and then Skittles was like kind of pervy with us?

Have you ever really kind of with us?

Were sometimes I am a little blown away by like I will be talking to like whatever, there's this pizza chain in l A.

But you know all these accounts are ran by gay guys.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like, I was like, where is this conversation going.

It's a pizza chain in LA And I don't want to say which because it did get really flirting in the d MS and it was.

Just a pizza pizza mascot with the pizza.

What's the pizza mascot is a shot?

This was, by the way, this was years ago.

It was Lucifer's pizza, so it was like a little devil.

And I was just going back and forth in the d MS with whoever was running the social this was years ago.

Do you think they took turns flirting with you?

I think that whoever think flirting, I think it was.

It was one like go go ahead.

Message from me from getting horny, and I have witnesses.

My friend, her friend Gus Hicky was with me and I was like, is this getting horny?

And he was like absolutely kicking firm.

Wow whenever I go there.

Now, did they retain did they retain the the company voice in their messages?

That's what I'm saying, pizza dropped away and suddenly it was like it was giving winky.

Face, and I was like, listen, Spike Jones could never.

I love that winky face.

Spike Jones could never.

That's more interesting than her.

I think I love falling in love with Can I say what movie?

I love her?

I do love her.

That's that's an amazing that's that's truly one of my favorite scarlet performances.

Oh, agreed, agreed, and and joacin you can drop out of my movie anytime came.

Gay stuff?

Is that what it was?

No, I don't know.

Well, have you heard about our Mara Wars Mara Wars?

So Bowen is in the Rooney Mara Fana Cloud, but I'm the Kate Mara.

Oh yes, but we love both.

We love both.

I'm just saying, are they related?

Really?

You didn't know.

I didn't know.

They have such different, very different vibes.

Yeah, yes, interesting Rooney.

Yeah, I think that cracks.

Yeah, you're a Rooney guy.

I'm early because I don't think people give her the credit because he's amazing.

Scene and Education I've seen Education with no an Education is her show FX on Hulu and it was on an Education where it was her and love Simon, and she plays a teacher that gets to do a relationship Simon.

Yes, the kid who played love Simon.

But it's not called an education that's her and loves Simon.

Waitit wait, wait what is it?

What is the original?

A teacher, A.

Teacher, A teacher, a teacher and education.

Teacher and education is Peter Sarsgard is a period piece, focus breakout role.

Yeah, you know, what's a great sentence?

I'm sorry, what's a great sent I have friends say this to me recently.

What I'm dating a teacher?

I'm dating It's such a lovely set em, yes, of course, but but it's also just lovely.

It's lovely to date a teacher.

Great as this.

Is by by Bertie soundtrack I Am.

English Teacher, An English Teachers.

Why that musical is weird to me?

It's so weird, it's weird.

The musical is about an English teacher's white No, the musical is about this, Like, tell us about this story.

I don't bye a Bertie.

It's about a guy named Bertie Conrad Birdie, Conrad Bertie.

And then there's like a dad who wants to like go to the Ed Sullivan Show.

It's like a weird fight.

I never really got.

We did it in high school and I sat really upset in the theater because I wasn't in it because I was too closeted, And I said, high school was deprived of my Conrad Berdie because this is Conrad Berdy.

Conrad Berdie plays like it's like an Elvis Presley type who they all are going crazy over.

And then he has to join the war.

He has to join the army.

Yeah, and so it's the way of like it's like then then they.

Sat like a campaign, it's like save Conrad.

Is this what it is?

Yeah?

Basically, but see this is the Bye Bye Birdie plot explanation challenge.

If you can succinctly explain the plot of Bye Bye Birdie ten dollars because there is a whole thing.

There's a whole.

There's this woman that's like she's like like she's she's, you know, stopping her foot at her husband because he's an English teacher.

But that's what she wanted.

Her name the Elvis.

The Elvis type is also an English teacher.

Two different male leads.

He's coming into he's coming, but then there's this couple named Hugo and Kim, and then the opening number is actually really cute.

It's called Margaret did it and Margaret by Did you watch mad Man?

Yes?

They did, they played that clip.

Okay.

Anyway, So the gay character in mad Men, Salvator Romano, who was like the visuals guy, was like very inspired by the opening of Bye Bye Bertie and was like, it's like going to be like and Margaret and they were all watching, Like the way he talks about this is kind of gay.

And actually that would be his sons a Boulevard with Nicole, yes, like in the because that's yeah.

And then his whole his whole problem in the episode was they get a girl to come in and like do the ad, which is like kind of like ripping on Anne Margaret, and he's like, she's not Anne Margaret, and it's like he's getting a little gay about it because it's like she doesn't have like the star quality ails, Like, what are you talking about it's great?

He's like, no, I think this is what it is.

Again, that could be wrong.

So hard to explain story to people.

What's in this simple story?

To explain Titanic Titanic rich girl, poor guy, they fall in love.

It's drama and then guess what they hit an iceberg and.

Boom boom, Cinderella.

You can explain very well, and this this I would submit to the dress Cinderella, not the not, not the not the pink dress, that her pink dress, because that was devastating eating when they tore it apart, like there was so much emotional tragedy.

It was as an audience, you cared so much.

You were so happy for her about that draft.

That was really good.

That's off broad off, that's really good.

I presented you.

The award for acting.

The goal that gave me.

Can I tell you something?

We were actually so excited because it was me and James doing it.

And I said to James, I was like, should we look And so we looked a little early and James saw your name and he goes and I was like, I was like, okay, you can say, you can say he has to he had to, and he said it.

That's really beautiful that they were there for that.

Wow, show business, My god, you can't even be sentimental for one.

You couldn't even do that.

You couldn't even you said, wow, show business, disdain your friends get to present you the big award at the.

At the Gotham Award, the Gotham Award.

It's very fun, very fun.

Words.

This is a room of Gotham winners.

Everyone gets yeah, okay, this is a thing.

So they were like trying to figure out a way to like bring me in James to the stage, and I was like with a voiceover and I was like say Gotham Award winners, James.

And then they did and we got up there and I guess that one was like whispering to each other what did they?

Who are they?

Who kidding?

But it was funny because we were just like brought up with all this pomp and circumstances.

Ensemble.

I like my Gotham Award.

I remember you saying you liked the shape of it.

Yeah, A column, A column, pretty good, pretty good.

Yeah.

It's also silver, which is you know, my favorite color.

Going back to child, there's a video of me.

You would be proud of me.

There's a video of me at three years old, and they're asking you questions.

I think it was like a childhood like neighborhood safety thing where they're like, what's your name, what's your mom's name?

Where do you live what's And then they started asking more fun questions like what's your favorite color?

And I took a beat and I go silver.

Have it that's cool?

Silver?

Silver, silver, silver, polished silver.

An answer I think I would never give again, even though it's true.

But you know, your favorite color is silver?

I think so your warm tone, which is why it's surprising that his favorite color is silver.

Your your warm tone, you mean like do I I feel like you're undertone of your of like your coloring.

Oh, this is this the thing where like the lady puts the fabric think you as part of as part of promotion for the show.

I think you should have that a lady who does that?

Is it one lady or is it multiple?

There are multiple specialists and they are all so amazing bomb But the way, just the way they comment on it is just like mesmerize.

But they're very like, see see what I'm saying?

Better now right, see what I'm saying.

Do you see the difference?

You see how this is good?

You see how this is good and this is bad?

And oh right, yeah see right?

You felt the Holy spirit?

Right?

This is this is this is like a driver things that will cut well.

Look up, look at that, look at that.

Yes, but don't you just want that experience anyway of just having someone tell you what colors look good on you?

But it is kind of nice to hear like.

It's probably not a good idea for you to do a blank like, you know, it's not a great idea for me.

What jewel tones?

What I disagree really hard disagree you are jewel tones.

I think spiritually.

Jewel tones.

All your all your idols are jewel tones.

Doesn't mean he's jewel tones.

Such a tone?

Are you kidding?

She wore a lot of jewel tones on Dusty Housewise.

If you remember, there was always like a really like like a bright royal blue.

There was always like.

Bright red emeralds she was giving.

Oh she was.

She would absolutely slay in like a mint love.

Not a jewel emerald green.

Is what I meant to say, Mint, I.

Love you, I do love you.

Has been on the podcast.

I've never met her.

That feels wrong.

It feels wrong that she hasn't been on the podcast.

No, definitely, No, certainly we talked about l A l A.

We talked about her all the time.

Is she aware of this?

She must be.

I think she might be.

In fact, she's like, which guys are this right?

I'm sure she's I'm sure she hasked that, like someone must have clued her in on on the award that we named.

After her, Award Tiny Woman, Huge Impact.

We wanted her to present the award, but the schedules did not align.

She's directing, Yes, she is directing, And what I would say is in advance.

I would love for her to come next year we get to do it again.

Eva Longoria, if you're listening, please come next year.

M Julia will do another bit.

Mm hmmm.

Honestly, well, I think you should.

Win an award next year.

It's probably about time, huh, I think you should give Well, let's see how color Theories is.

Let's let's see performances.

Yeah, two performances, not enough to qualify for anything, but maybe let's maybe definitely.

Is it going to be filmed or is it pure theater?

Because Taylor Swift would film it, she would she would film it, she would film it.

Does that mean you wouldn't what I'll film it?

Yes?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes maybe that would.

Maybe we weren't supposed to.

We were't supposed to ask cut we'll cut around.

Yeah, Olivia is about to scold us.

Olivia we have the same manager, mm hmmm, and she is likely to take a meeting in the middle of the show, much like Matt one tho, now I think it's time the time, I think.

It's time, it's time for I don't think so, honey.

So just to refresh you whatever one at home, it's a one minute segment that we take tourant rail destroy really like I don't know, sometimes just totally obliterate something in colortural that's bothering us.

Something has recently come to my attention actually as a result of the Culture Awards, and that's the angle I'm taking today.

This is exciting.

This is Matt Rogers's I don't think so, honey.

As time starts now, I don't think so honey.

The people who thought that the lyric and diet Pepsi was Costco chain.

So a lot of people, as a result of Ben Platt's brilliant rendition of diet Pepsi by Addison Ray, have for the first time heard Cross gold Chain, and a lot of people are like, I thought it was Costco chain.

I don't think so, honey.

What is a Costco Chain.

Like, I understand you can go to Costco and buy many things, but I don't think jewelry is one of them.

Also, can I just I just feel like it's it's it's a reach.

And I understand that the song was written in like a Lana del Rey sort of like fever dream, but I think we're trying to reach at like what would Lana say?

And maybe Lana del Ray would say, I bought a chain at Costco, But that's not what the line is.

And if you listen to it more than once, you hear that it's Cross gold Chain.

I understand, like maybe we want something different.

It's not that I don't think so, honey.

You need to get your ears checked.

Thank you Ben Platt for bringing this to the forefront.

It's Cross gold Chain, not Costco Chain.

I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, Costco chain.

More than ten people have said this in my comments, like I never really heard that it wasn't Costco chain.

You're a comment reader.

I'm actually I've actually now as a as a as a result of like the past few months, i'd say I'm thinking about disabling comments it's on Instagram.

I'm thinking about just doing a flat out if I don't follow you.

You can't comment situation.

I've done that for quite some time.

Yeah, or it's that if for me, it's just if you don't follow me, you can't comment.

Yeah, that's pretty open policy.

It's like, oh, yeah, no, I guess it's like you have to feel like you can't come unless you follow me, which is actually quite It's like, therefore it's no like random.

People just yeah to drive by.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Yeah, And so that might be something.

You got to commit to following me.

If you want to insult me, if you.

Want to get in my head for hours, you got to follow me first.

If you want to say racist or homophobic things, you got to hit the follow bow.

It really is something, Huh.

It's interesting how this all worked, this is all and how it never really was meant to be part of the human experience.

Whenever you say this, I'm like.

That is true, and it all goes to little mark, to a little mark, gobble gobble gobble, every little comment, every little piece of hate gobble gobble gobble every time.

Yeah, touching for for the hate means to chang every time you say, like, it's actually not a thing where we're not supposed to know other people's thoughts.

We're not supposed to read other people's thoughts right in that way where it's like a little bit by bit by bit by bit, I'm not supposed to read other people's thoughts.

And it's yeah, because there's a lot of stream of consciousness in there.

Of course, and you're like, there's no unifying thing here other than its response, like what what one particular image is supposed to community may like it's whatever.

I don't have to get into.

TBD for now.

Let it rip in the comments.

There's still there's just you can Are you ready, Bowen Yang, do you have an I don't think so, honey, I do, I do?

Okay, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey.

It's time starts now.

I don't think so honey.

Weed in soda I don't.

I don't think this is helping me in particular anymore.

I enjoy it for other people.

I'm not going to name brands, but a weed soda has recently knocked me on my ass, and it's made by amazing people.

I just thin, we know that we know and we love.

But the weed soda has been sent to me in yet another box full of four six packs.

And you know what I known about myself to blame.

I take it back.

Actually, I don't blame the people.

I blame myself for.

What I'm saying.

I'm bibing.

Three weeds sodas I had, I had one.

No, I had one.

Three weeds sodas over three days, but I had one.

I had half a weed soda last night that I shared with our friend Celestium, and fifteen seconds I woke up today groggier than ever.

Oh, this is just a moratorium on marijuana overall.

Five seconds.

This is my Reagan Rave.

Nancy was onto something.

Just say no, oh God, And.

That's one minute.

Now that all that does does make me want it even more.

I've never had one.

I enjoy it.

It sneaks up on you in a way that like an enable hits you out of nowhere, you know, the joint hits you.

It kind of just hits you right away.

But the weed, so it just just like I don't like feeling, I know, I know, I.

Wonder if that's because you maybe had too many.

I had half of one last night, and I woke up this morning feeling crazy.

I'm just talking consecutively because I do think it's a thing, like it's cumulative.

We were just in town, and so it was sort of like cigarette ali like when I'm on vacation, like I will allow myself to be corrupted by members of the vacation party that smoke cigarettes, and I just smoke.

A lot of them, and I drink a lot and then I'm smoking a lot of weed and I'm just like afterwards, I feel bad for like four or five days.

And I think it was just the.

Consistency I'm on that coming down for sure.

Yeah, me too.

You're doing good now, I think.

So now that I'm with you, guys, I actually did.

I said, I got back to the city today and felt so much better good, Like I was just like it was just like this thing of like you know, the post vacation and when you're kind of just like, oh, now I'll sit for a while in this sitting just kind of like I.

Don't have that, but I I've heard of this phenomenon.

Why don't you have that?

Of like you we're talking about like an emotional valley after I have acage yeah, yeah, yeah, this is so common.

You don't have that.

Yeah, I don't think I do.

You're jealous.

I guess is that because you're not doing a lot of like drugs.

Yeah, so that's what it is.

Yeah, it's good.

It's good for you.

Sure, innocent fun.

I'm in rehearsal mode.

I'm in rehearsal Broadway show.

Okay, shall we have a little line?

No, no, I'm in rehearsal arrest nasal arrest.

Wait?

But who I would much money?

I have to are you making all I have to pay you to wear a shirt that says I can I have rehearsal.

I would die to see you wear that.

I can't I have rehearsal?

Okay, see now maybe that's the title of that I can't rehearsal?

Can't I have rehearsal?

I think it would largely depend on the font, which would indicate whether this is an ironic shirt or like it can't he has rehearsal.

And you, And in order for it to be ironic, it would have to be goofy, be like cursive.

It can't be.

It can't look too aesthetically please please, it has to look a little bit it has to be.

It has to like if the font is anything but like straightforward, then it's it's an ironic T shirt.

Yes, right, And it would have to be an ironic T shirt for you to wear it.

No, because you don't wear ironic t.

W wait, I have one big gun to your head, but Zuoka locked and loaded, gunna fire.

You have to pick one T shirt says I can't I have rehearsal, one says I was young I needed the money, and the other one.

Says not a day over fabulous?

Which one?

And you know the font it's random.

I don't have to explain.

Yeah, okay, the options where I can't have rehearsal not a day of fabulous and I was young I needed the money.

And I was young I needed the money.

I think I'm gonna go with rehearsal.

Yeah, because that's like it's so not You're so not that person.

Yeah, I feel like I was young I needed the money.

People will go like, it's okay, can I.

Tell you something.

Yeah, it's a real sign that I have in my l a apartment.

Which one of the three I was, Yeah, I needed the money and it's a sign.

It's next to a picture of me and Bowen Yang.

Wait, but it's a sign.

It's like, I don't think it works if it's a if it's a knickknack apartment.

In twenty nineteen, when I first moved to LA I was like, yeah, this I got it from like red fin or whatever the fuck whatever.

The gay cracker barrel is no like red red, bubble red.

What's the gay cracker barrel?

I don't know, I'm the cracker barrel is like where you buy little signs.

Right, you literally don't go online to find like uh special knickknacks and crafts.

Way, now we should take really to cracker barrell.

Oh, I would love that.

Where you buy sign you can eat peanuts and just throw the peanuts on the ground.

In addition to like having a delicious you know, casserole or.

Spear, you can eat your peanuts, which instead of like you know, bread for the table, to peanuts to the table, you eat the peanuts and throw it on the ground and then.

Throw it on the ground.

It's like.

Texas and this is wait, sorry, and the peanut and throwing the peanut shells on the ground.

This this, this brings pleasure.

I'm gonna say it's like part of it.

I don't think it's like a known thing about cracker bets like you're thinking about mixed Sorely.

Roadhouse is honestly what it is.

It's remember when we would go to Austin like every year to do story pirates right, and we'd go to Texas Roadhouse and the whole thing was like you break open your nut with your teeth and you throw it on the ground and then someone has to come by and sweep it, and the.

Whole thing of like.

Job they know when I apply.

They could have applied its sonic.

They could have applied at outback steakhouse where everything gets down in the garbage.

This is something different.

Wow, I don't know.

We're gonna take it.

We're gonna take you, okay to wear sorry cracker barrels lash, Texas rod both have this thing of the nuts on the ground, Nuts on the ground, Nuts on the ground.

Isn't that a song?

It is?

Now?

Reality is working right.

Reality is I don't Reality is worked in a major way on this episode.

I think we'd expect nothing less and there's ye and there's yet more to come and one more is on the way.

Will reality for bedroom put an actual commercial.

Break in here.

It should maybe we should.

Let's put it.

Let's put it right here now, and we're back.

Everyone's pissed.

Everyone's like that was too long.

Shut up?

So are you ready?

I am ready?

Okay, this is tours Is.

I don't think so, honey, this time starts now.

I don't think so, honey.

Not putting shoes on the mannequins, oh money, honey, honey, honey.

I get it that you don't sell shoes at this store.

I understand that.

But the mannequin has toenails.

Yeah, yeah, you have to put shoes on the mannequin.

You have.

The manufacture of the mannequin has humanized this form to the extent they're giving it like they're giving it toenails.

Yeah, it has been thought of.

And you not so much as putting a sock or or or or just a slider flat, a slipper.

It's wretched.

It's wretched unless this is a bathing suit store, right, because even if it's lingerie, give her a pump, give.

Her a about pajamas.

You you don't you It is disgusting to not put shoes on the mannequins.

And that's I hadn't even thought of this.

But that's what makes you you.

You really do have a fresh creative mode.

Wow, that's why I'm so happy you came into I.

Have a question.

Do they have to have hair on the head?

No?

Well, then at what point you draw the line of the realism versus the.

Well, like you are being very binary about it that a woman mannequin has to have long hair.

I'm not.

Saying you're a shoe, but like if they have to have a shoe because the mannequin has been the realism of the mannequins has gone to the point of them having toenails, should they have hair?

I mean this is not to put any sort of value on like being bald is not?

No, because I think no, because I think that you can elect not have hair.

That's right, but you can just like you can elect not have shoes.

No, because these people are presumably not in their homes.

The world of.

How they tell time?

Shall they all have a watch?

To assume that all of these.

Have eyeglasses?

Well, okay, okay, I think that that like some of the Okay, if it's a large store with men with like a hundred mannequins, says it's like Macy's.

Yes, then yes, statistically some of them should have glasses, yeah, and and hair and hair.

Yeah.

What do you think about that errand mannequin that just has like both of its forearms cut off?

You know what I'm talking about?

All of a sudden, it's like I was like, well, what happened to her?

Well, I think she's in a great blouse, but what happened to her arms?

Well?

I think that there are mannequins that do take liberties with the human form.

Well, yes, but if it's going for realism, if it's going for realism, and it has whoenails give you, give it a given phone and I make it and I d a la boo boo a la boo boo.

Depending on the age, I guess yeah, yeah sure.

Well well now they're all ages now, No, it's all ages.

No, it's all ages.

Just final words before we let you go.

H what do you think of La boo boo and Lafufu?

Loafufu is the friend the fake one, the fake one?

Yeah, Team Lau.

Yeah, the people's La boo boo.

That's true, Yeah, it's true.

Wait, rurle culture number fifty nine.

People, I make it in the book.

Absolutely the book.

You guys are gonna have an airline.

Last culture.

No, oh my god, those flight attendants the way I would put on sunglasses and look away.

Jesus, those flight attendants.

Who are you regular attendants?

Hundreds of people, including.

Sir.

Sir, sir, you haven't heard the rule of culture.

Through the culture, you go from the seatbelts, go from the right to your left.

It's the conture number one.

Wow, come on the airline.

She'd have an airline.

Okay, I'll come as far as we care.

Yeah, I'll do it.

It'll be a private jet with a huge carbon print.

No, I think I think, uh, I think I think that culture.

He says air is sort of like Wow Air.

Remember Wow Air?

What was Wow?

Wow?

Wow Air was an Icelandic airline that made uh they all had made they all had to make stops and rekvic mm hmm, which and they were branded and like it was wow and they had like spin offs.

They had mom, dad and gay that's cool.

What Yeah?

Gay.

I was like gonna say they're onto something by making reciv to stop because everyone should.

There's fabulous.

I have never been.

We actually need to go, so we're planning.

We're playing I did, I did?

I did a shoot there?

It was so fun?

Is that?

What were the next next to Lesculturisa's awards happened?

I mean dream of dreams.

Yes, but then it would just be like us and Byork, which really would be fine and we can figure that out.

I think there is like a tax incentive to shoot there, so y'all should think about it.

No, but the whole thing about is that it's a.

American.

It's very.

I think.

Wow air makes me think of wow chips.

What are wild chips?

Delta Work explains this very well.

It's it's freedo lay used to have Wow chips, like in the nineties where it was not cooked with it was cooked with a different oil called olestra, and the oil it's kind of slip through your entire digestive system.

Your body would not absorb the oil, and so they were like healthy chips.

But then you.

You take in shits, then.

There's no absorption at all, but you would have poisonous ships from from all did it say in the packaging there's no absorption at all?

They might I think they should have because people because now they're where are they now?

People hated it.

Oh, they hated it well because they didn't know they would people loved it.

They would be around still.

Can you imagine that ship that you didn't have to digest?

It's a chip that every single time you digest that you have poisonous ships.

So that won't work at all at all.

That's the trade off.

I mean, people hate poisonous shits more than they like non digestive chips.

But coodles to them for being so good that it was even a conversation there for a while, because you wouldn't even think that there is a conversation there.

No, that's a that's like an interesting show that has like one season before we let you go.

One thing I realized is you actually and Taylor have another thing in common.

I think you would really I know she really likes this word, and I think you would like this.

What is the word variant?

Variant?

The agent variant.

Like she puts out different variants vari yls now all the swifties, which is millions of people very used the word variant in everyday language.

Like epidemiology terms like variant, like strain variant and is it like like like medical pop like like we haven't heard it yet, we don't know, we haven't heard.

She calls her different vinyls variants, different colors of vinyls, color theories, variants, and she is we we were thinking about you when she announced this era.

It's Showgirls.

It is her circus era.

Literally, it's her.

She has finally got her.

Be careful, don't stay there too long.

No, I don't think she will.

Okay, this is a quick little circus.

But there's a rumor that she will be doing the super Bowl and then the Sphere in Vegas because it fits with the aesthetic of Showgirls, and so therefore, what more of a circus literally than the sphere?

It's a circle, which is the Latin word for circus.

Wait, is the super Bowl in Las Vegas this year?

It is not in Las Vegas, but it is in another city where like another hint from the New Heights podcast was like alluding to like the location where it would be like New Orleans or.

Something, because they were like, what have you been getting into, Lily, And she's like sour dough bread, and she kept saying, I'm really the sour dough bread.

I would say, I would say it occupies sixty percent of my time when I believe it's the sixtieth Super Bowl?

And sorry, what is the connection between sourdough bread as.

Be sour dough bread super Bowl?

And these are intentional things that she does.

Perhaps they are we don't know yet.

Okay, everything is intentional until they're not, until it's not until.

Our projection loses power.

Yeah, I mean, for all we know, she's like what I would actually kill to see YouTube and conversation.

I'm not kidding.

I think it would be really good.

Two directors, two directors.

She's got something at Searchlight, yeah, does she?

Yeah?

Variant variant, agent variant variant What's what's what's the age?

How?

What is agent?

How does agent come in?

I don't know.

I imagine sort of like a like a bombshell ultraviolet Yeah, in that genre atomic blonde agent, atomic blonde agent.

Yeah, not bombshell atomic blonde.

Yeah.

Agent variant, agent variant.

I'm an agent orange.

Interesting.

Well I should think about after this.

Color Theories is running September third, September twenty second Performance Space n y C twenty two.

Chances your memory is on.

First Ava You not off Broadway.

We don't care for that.

On First Avenue, we find it.

To be diminishing when you say we're off Broadway.

I don't think it's diminishing.

I just think it's it's silly, so silly.

It's what the things that we do.

We end every episode with a big song.

Oh.

Same takes Me Away worrow by Christopher Cross Greta, used in as as a placeholder audio in a project We'll tell you about it later.

Title title it takes Me Away.

I actually don't know any of the words in episode.

I recognize it is twenty nineteen.

Master check it out.

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