Welcome to the backpacking podcast brought to you by Outdoor Vital Sneakers up Performance first Ultra Light Gear and with me always my good friend Jeremiah Stringer, the king of Kentucky backpacking.

OK, so I'm still not used to we're using Riverside now.

That's the new program that we're using for for the podcast and I am still not used to it.

I'm I'm pointing in the wrong directions.

If you're watching the video, John just pointed to the I.

I don't know if I pointed to you, if I pointed at the side of the screen or what I did, but I don't even know right now.

You know, John, I've been editing the show with this new program.

I don't know if anybody's noticed.

It's got some tools in there that let you do different stuff.

And so I have been like swapping us around and all that.

So don't worry, I'll fix it in post.

Oh, you're the man.

You're the man, Jeremiah.

Yeah, this is this is the first time we've been able to, it's been a probably two or three years since we've used something where Jeremiah's actually able to access it because it's always been Mac based.

And so we had to get come up with something because Jeremiah has a Windows computer, I have a Mac, and we're now able to work together on this part of it, which is really cool.

You know, I used to be Mac exclusive and then I had to buy another computer and I was like, boy, that's a tough, that's a tough price tag on there.

So yeah, we're on, we're on Windows, but that's okay.

Maybe one day I'll buy a new computer with all that money from our beautiful sponsoroutdoorvitals.com.

And you like that segue bro?

That, that was one heck of a segue, I'm not gonna lie.

One heck of a segue, man.

Just a couple things to say by the way, about outdoor vitals.

If you missed the Black Friday sale, don't worry.

We're recording this on December the 3rd and we're live right now on YouTube and apparently on Riverside as well.

John tells me.

And I've got good news for you.

If you're watching live, this is day one of the 12 days of Christmas.

And basically what that means is every day there's a different deal.

So if you're listening to this live right now, your deal is the down top quilts are 18% off.

Plus with your order, you get a free balaclava and a free foam pad.

Now they're going to send out an e-mail every day for the 12 days of Christmas and it disappears after 24 hours.

Not the e-mail, but the deal.

So strike now while the iron's hot.

And if you don't love today's deal, there is one tomorrow.

So if you're listening to this after December the 3rd, no worries.

December the 15th that would be the 12th day of Christmas and the deal will be over so strike now second thing John.

Yes bro I know everything got delayed because of the holidays USPS.

So they sent a package outdoor vitals did of this this new mountain pursuit line and we've been dying to try it and I said oh, I got a trip coming up for Black Friday.

Well, USPS, I don't know what they were doing shipping my stuff around.

It seemed like it went as far away as it could before they would send it to me.

But I did get that's right if you're just listening.

Oh man, I'm so jealous right now.

I have my shadow lot, my 60 carbon.

Dude is that not beautiful?

I haven't even tried it on yet.

Oh man, I cannot wait.

I'm supposed to be getting one of those two but I think mine got lost in the mail so.

And I also haven't opened up the pants, the jacket or the pullover.

So I'm excited, man, because we've been getting snow here in the Bluegrass.

I think y'all got a lot dusting up there.

A light dusting.

A light dusting up in north, about an inch, maybe an inch and 1/2.

Well, that'll put you out of school, which is all right for me.

Yeah, yeah, I was going to say for you, that's glorious, right?

Well actually dude, I missed a couple days.

Come home with a stomach bug and more on that later because I got a story to tell you and I'm going to bookend it with poop.

So get excited, man.

I don't.

I don't know if anybody's ever said that to me before.

I have a story for you and I'm going to bookend it with poop real quick.

We got some people that are that are on here.

We're going to show real quick Jeff Peters, what's going on.

Let's see.

We've got Meg Vanderbilt on here right now.

Happy Wednesday to you as well.

David Cooper is on Hilltop Packs.

What's up?

Ben McMillan, it's good to see you.

Oh, check this out.

Our buddy Chad is on right now.

UGQ Outdoors.

Chad, we miss you too.

Chicken Little Tricks is on here, man.

We got a lot of people on right now.

Jeff Peters.

I like the title under Jeremiah's name.

What would Jeremiah put under John's name?

So.

Oh, they see the title.

What did What did you?

What's undermine?

Well, I don't know if I should tell you, but.

It says.

The pirate life is for him.

Oh, I love it, dude.

You know, there's been multiple times I've almost shaved this beard and I said Nope, I'm.

Oh, dude, I should have sent you a picture too.

I got my hair did for this Black Friday trip.

Yeah, yeah, cornrows.

Dude, I had cornrows in Wednesday.

We were off work, had it Wednesday, Thursday for Thanksgiving for with family.

Friday through Sunday for my Black Friday trip.

Oh, I got to send you some pictures too.

Oh man.

Talk about that pirate life, man, I was rocking it.

And so it got a few comments on here.

We have to say before we get going with this, the first one is this.

Maybe the USPS sent Jeremiah's package to Gonnex's HQ before it got to Kentucky.

I believe you.

If it did, then mine's there too.

And then also J Flo, we're pulling up the Gonex today.

Gonex poop.

For those that don't know the Gonex story, go back and some old episodes.

That's I'll just say that for right now, go back and check out some old episodes because Gonex plays a big part in the history of our illustrious, illustrious channel.

Jeremiah.

Guess what I'm doing tonight?

And what you got going on?

Well, the reason we were going to try and get on a little early today and, and we weren't able to and that was my fault because I was too busy seasoning and vacuum sealing food that we were going to make for tonight's dinner.

And that food was duck breast that I went hunting for this past weekend.

And so we're having duck breast Mac and cheese tonight for dinner at our house.

And it's, it's Gouda Mac and cheese.

Man, this is the good stuff.

We're not playing around in the Kelly household tonight.

For dinner, what kind of noodles are you doing for the Mac?

It's something my wife bought, some kind of fancy Mac and cheese that she wanted to try.

So.

I got to tell you, man, my Friendsgiving, there's a former culinary master that is part of our that was part of our little Friendsgiving thing that we done.

And.

Her name's Kaylee.

She made this three cheese Mac and I asked her for the recipe.

Apparently the people that are, you know, masters of the culinary arts, they don't really do recipes.

They I guess it's made more from the heart by a lot of them.

And she was like, I can tell you which cheeses and I can tell you generally speaking, how I made this.

But that was the best Mac and cheese I've ever had in my entire life.

And I'm I'll have to send you what noodles she used to because it was the only thing I went back for seconds for.

Oh.

Man, I bet it was good.

It was delicious.

And what are you vacuum sealing the duck for?

Are you like?

Packaging.

Oh, we're oh, I don't I thought I maybe have told you about this before, but I learned how to sous video like steaks and pork chops and all kinds of different cuts of meat.

So we're doing sous video duck breasts.

So they're, they're literally cooking right now.

They're going to cook for two hours in the sous video and then we're going to brown the outsides of them, chop them up, put them in the Mac and cheese.

So man, it's not going to be a bad day.

It is not going to be a bad day in my house.

And by the way, I am I I do have our live stream pulled up on YouTube.

It looks great and also I'm on the lookout for super chats.

I still have not figured out in this bro.

How to have not either?

Super chat.

So I am John.

I'm going to do do you a favor.

I know that you're do great producing and hosting the show.

I'm going to try to keep a a lookout for you in case we do get any.

That is awesome.

Also, Steve Wright just said hello, boys.

Just made it.

Just got off the trail from a hike and getting in my truck.

Go go next.

So go next.

We've not had this much go next talk in a very, very, very long time.

So this is fun, Jeremiah, something that really cool happened this past week and maybe a bunch of you already know about it.

And maybe I'm bringing up something that maybe is silly, but a few weeks ago we made comment that our good friend Steven over at My Life Outdoors, his wife is suffering through cancer.

He put a video out talking about how difficult it is, how he's having to kind of dial back the videos.

And for someone like Steven, that's his, that's his livelihood.

Everything he does is is through these videos.

Well, something unbelievably cool happened this past week, just three days ago my the outdoor boys YouTube channel.

Luke Nichols, who is the the guy who's who runs that Channel.

If you haven't seen the outdoor boys, man, you've missed out.

They're they're huge, the channels massive.

But he decided to come out of retirement to do a video for Steven and the video as of right now has 6.8 million views.

It's on Stevens channel by the way.

It's actually on his channel.

And Stevens channel has grown from around 650 some odd 1000 subscribers to 953,000 subscribers.

He's literally about to hit a million subscribers right now, which is absolutely awesome.

And I think it's all we can celebrate.

I totally agree.

And if you go in there and watch that video, it's basically Luke is coming out of retirement because if you fall, the outdoor boys, you already know this.

But Luke used to be a lawyer.

I believe it's in West Virginia or Virginia.

And then him and his family have relocated to remote parts of Alaska.

In fact, one of his more recent videos, he's showing their their building or buying and building a homestead up there.

I can't remember the guy's name, but there's videos from like 80s and 90s where this guy lived basically in isolation in Alaska and videotaped a bunch of this stuff and had his own cab and made it all by hand, killed his own food.

You know, you get a resupply, you know, from a plane coming in and dropping off stuff or but now they actually maintain that cabin up there.

But you'll see this on outdoor boys channel and they're building a homestead up there in this remote part of Alaska.

So he's no longer a lawyer and he made this YouTube channel and I think he's gotten a little bit burned out, but it's a huge channel and I.

Think he was burned out because he's put out four videos in the last month.

So I think he's back to to making videos again, which is great.

And one of his videos I actually watched the other day.

This is 4 days camping, hunting for dead walrus, and trolling for bears.

Yeah, but I think that that might be.

So he made an announcement on his channel.

If if I go back real quick.

That was six months ago.

He said.

I'm taking some time off but I am still going to roll out some videos that I have footage of over the next year.

So I don't know what's current and what's not, but like I'll, I'll watch the video of him and his kids going up and visiting that homestead and working on it and having family over and all that.

So I don't know if that's old footage or not, but I know that this new video is new because if you want on Stevens channel my life outdoors.

He's basically going up.

He drives his car and gets snowed in and he's he's sleeping out in the snow in this shelter that he's building with no sleeping bag, minimal gear.

You know, I, I was just like, gosh, I cannot put myself in his shoes.

By the way, Ben McMillan shout out for the Super chat $3.84 and the comment just says test.

That was a good test.

Thank you.

I wish it would show up or we could see it on here.

That's we found.

We found something.

If you if you want to have some fun with us, get a hold of Riverside and say come on guys, super chats.

Why can't we see those on our channel?

Yeah, I'm going to have to reach out to them and like chat with their help desk or something because we like super chats.

We do super chat for those that don't know it's.

The best thing in the world?

It's basically.

Money in our.

Pockets yes, you're giving us love in the form of money on YouTube in real time so we like paying the light bill around here but.

Anyway, it's kind of like somebody handing you a $10.00 bill and you actually being able to say thank you.

Yeah.

So you can, you can give us your money and we can just say thank you.

Yeah, but no pressure.

Feel free to listen.

Oh, there is no pressure.

Like you don't ever have to do it, but it when you do, it's nice to know so we can actually say thank you.

Yes, that $3.84 I'll I'll have you know, diapers are $0.35 per at the current size that my son wears.

So, Jeremiah, you know a great way for you to make some extra money.

How?

Well I had outdoor adventures with Shane.

With Shane asked.

I haven't watched for a while but does Jeremiah have merch yet?

Oh my gosh, we got we're hitting all the greatest hits here on the throwbacks today.

All I'm saying is, where is the merch now that we should say that?

He says that I I feel like we need to start the campaign back up again.

Oh, I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, he's, he's on to something here.

I mean, and, and J Flo, he, he said Jeremiah is waiting for Gonex to supply him with his own merch.

Ha ha ha ha.

I wanted to add the evil laugh at the end of it there.

Yeah, I like the tag.

You know, the reason I wanted to bring up the thing with Steven is is one of the cool things about the YouTube outdoor community is it's, it's a very good community.

There's a lot of great people involved in it, whether it's backpacking, hunting, whatever, just a great community of outdoor Youtubers and I think it's pretty awesome that that people are doing that kind of thing.

A lot of people don't realize the The Outdoor Boys has 18,000,000 subscribers.

Huge.

And the reason he stepped back was because his son, Tom want to do his own channel.

Outdoor Tom, his son's channel, has 1.67 million subscribers.

He's like 11 or 12 years old.

Yeah, those kids, dude, If you watch them in the videos, those kids have more skills than most adult men when it comes to the outdoors.

They're just slaying fish out there and building.

It's unbelievable.

Running an excavator at 10 years old.

I would never dream.

Yeah, who does that, man?

Who does that?

That's pretty awesome.

All right, I'm I'm going to I'm starting to see like some lag on mine.

So I'm going to start cutting out some channel like I've got a 1500 tabs opened up in my Google right now.

So I'm I'm closing stuff.

Oh, you're squeezing the bandwidth in the Kelly household today, ain't.

You.

I am.

I am.

The kids are out playing with a friend of theirs, so they're not upstairs playing video games right now.

But yeah, I need to.

Yeah, and you know, you're right.

I've gotten connected with so many people through YouTube and even like, you know, the we do this annual meet up and I had somebody that messaged me today about getting connected and I said that is the perfect way.

You're going to be basically hanging out with like minded people and you you meet people that you never would have met otherwise.

Like one of my best friends Mr.

Backpacking with Jason Sir recently over the last year became.

Really.

Wait, wait, wait.

Hold up.

Hold up.

He's not your dad.

Oh, backpacking with dad.

He wants to be called J Pop.

Actually, since I had a son, J Pop, Yeah, we tried to call him Grandpa, but he would not.

He just will not take it backpacking with Grandpa.

Oh.

Dude I just said we start calling J pop all the time.

I like it.

I think J Pop's a good name.

I'm not even talking just for for your son.

I'm talking about period.

He's no longer Jason.

He's no longer Mr.

Backpacking with Jason, Sir.

He is from now on, Mr.

J Pop.

What would you want to be called?

You know, if you're lucky enough one day to have grandchildren, what would you have him to call you?

Grandpa, I don't care.

I don't really.

I'm not that worried about what my kids, what they call me.

If if one of them like they just start calling me something, I'll go with it.

You know, they start calling me.

Hey, crazy old man, I'll go with it.

It's fine.

I think a lot of times it's the kids like speech is developing, right?

And so they're certain things they can and can't say.

And then something sticks.

And then now you got a cute little story out of it.

But he he went with J Pop.

I say embrace it.

Hey man, whatever works.

If J Pop works, let's go with it.

I think we just call him J Pop on here too.

Yeah.

And then like I was saying in in in recent times over the last year, actually not the most recent meet up that we've done in October, but the year before I met Woodall Trails Jonathan and he lives in the same city I do 20 minutes away.

Became really good friends with him, hang out with him.

Unfortunately, every time we watch UK game together, they get absolutely smacked.

So I think he's my bad luck charm when it comes to that's what I told him.

We had to watch him separate but like.

Speaking of that, Speaking of that, did did you happen to to watch the football games from this past Saturday?

Oh, here we go John, getting into the football are.

You all my Michigan buddies.

All my Michigan buddies.

We'll allow him to taunt a little bit.

Ohio, I've been here for four, the last four years.

Oh, that's great, but you didn't beat Michigan.

Oh, you got a national title, but you didn't beat Michigan.

Well, guess what?

We beat Michigan.

We basically put you in your place.

You know what's really funny?

What they knew they were going to lose.

You know how you know how I know?

They knew they were going to lose.

Tell me.

Oh, this is, this is I mean, I'm serious.

They knew they were going to lose.

The reason I know they were going to lose is because those guys had already planned to defend their M so we couldn't plant our flag I.

Saw that?

So as soon as the game was over, they all went to the center to guard the M.

They had planned for that.

They knew they were going to lose, so they planned like I, I just think it's hilarious.

Anyways, I, I go bucks.

That's all I'm saying.

Go bucks number one in the polls right now.

Everybody's going to be like how they haven't played anybody.

Well, that's fine.

We didn't play anybody last year and beat the tar of everyone.

So let's go.

Yeah, well, I won't get too deep into sports with this life.

And my cats got dominated by North Carolina and we fired our football coach.

So yeah.

And what can you say?

Hey, you know what though?

You know what?

It'll come together.

That's true.

OK, let me get, let me steer John back away.

John did not attend OSU.

Is that supposed to be a question?

Jeff Peters asked, Did I, did John attend that?

No, I didn't.

Why does Jeff Peters name have 5347 after it is that?

I don't know.

I don't know if there's a if there's numbers after everybody right now, David Cooper says.

Can we not talk about college football still?

Morning UT losing to Vandy now.

That's when Jeremiah is happy about.

Wamp, WAMP, Wamp.

It do not.

Bandy beat us too.

So they're in contention for a playoff.

OK, now here I have to restore John.

I'm trying to restore him.

He starts bringing up comments for college football.

This is not my fault, folks.

I'm just doing my part, man.

Hey, here's a really good question that I think we should answer though before we get into anything else, which we're getting ready to talk about J pop here in a second.

But isn't J pop of Korean form of pop music?

You know, with AII?

Wonder if we could get a video of Jason Wah singing K Pop.

Oh, what about what's about Gangnam Style?

What if we put his face as the Gangnam Style?

Because is that and with.

His voice, if we do it with his voice.

Yeah, you'd have to do some of that AI magic.

I don't even know where to start when it comes to that.

You know, I think I'm going to, I'm going to have to do that.

Somebody's, it doesn't know their history very well.

Someone said UK fired their most successful coach in program history.

That's not actually true.

Bear Bryant is the most successful football coach in UK history.

Depends on how you.

Mention won a national title.

Yeah, it depends on how you measure success.

I don't know, I think it was a different world back then, but Stoops is definitely the most winning and he had a 10 win season.

But.

I don't even know.

Here's the thing, LeBron James has the most points in the history of of the NBA, but he's not the most prolific scorer in the history of NBA.

He just played for 22 years, so.

Listen, John is trying to ruffle feathers today.

Listen, Chan, No way.

I said nothing negative about LeBron.

I just said he's not the most prolific scorer in the history of the NBA and he's not.

That's it.

He's he's the number two player in the history of the game.

Oh, OK, now see, now he is deep.

He's diving deep into the weeds, ruffling.

Feathers, listen, listen.

What is wrong with being #2 in the entire history of professional basketball?

I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it.

I think he's exactly, I think he signed a contract, the first billion dollar contract with a shoe company.

I'm pretty sure he signed it with Nike like last month.

It might have first one ever.

Yeah, all.

Right, he's incredible basketball player.

Now, oh, Brian Winburn says OK, this is I promise, this is my last 110 win.

OK, let me pull up.

Ten win was vacated, he was less than 50%.

He actually had back-to-back ten win season if I remember correctly.

Oh, man, it's kind of it's starting.

I'm so excited right now.

This is where it gets fun.

LeBron James is known as Laflop Lames.

That's funny.

I did not say that.

I did not say that.

That's funny.

Oh my.

God, Jordan is still the GOAT.

LeBron couldn't hold Jordan's jock strap one-on-one.

Oh my God.

Oh, John, what have you done?

You've.

I I have done my job.

I have done my job.

Just a waterfall of.

My goldfish drown says I am on the Nike backpacking team.

Let's go.

Yeah, Sami took.

Can we?

Let's.

Get them to sponsor us too.

Hunaki.

Yeah, making outdoor vitals now that's a championship team right there, man.

I tell you, I was trying to get a hold of Rodman would destroy him.

Oh my gosh, no, there's people listen to this.

They're like, they're like me.

So you had the Bulls in the 90s, right?

And I was just a little kid.

I guarantee you our younger audience, they weren't even alive to to witness the greatness that was Jordan.

LeBron is Jordan.

I will say, I will say that if you were to get on YouTube and just look up Michael Jordan highlights, it would blow your mind if you didn't get to watch him play.

Yeah, but it's.

Mind boggling.

Just the stuff that dude pulled off.

What's the deal though?

He not straight to the NBA, played in college.

Yeah.

Played in college.

Played in college, became the college Player of the year.

Won a national championship with North Carolina.

But the the haters would say straight to the NBA is the way.

It wasn't back then.

There were very few guys that went straight to the NBA.

Different world dude.

My nose is so dried out.

This trip I was outside for 72 hours and at one point I was like is it going to get above 35° the entire time I'm out here?

I feel like my nose is so dried it just keeps on.

Itching for those who are who aren't capable of watching right now.

You're just listening.

Make sure you go watch us.

You could watch Jeremiah pick his nose.

Yeah, continuously.

Quite entertaining.

For half.

An hour, I'm telling you, I'm thinking we need to have a second channel, Jeremiah.

That's us talking about sports.

Oh, I wish I had time.

Because we got the comment.

LeBron is great, no one's denying that.

He just isn't better than Jordan.

I think.

That, I mean, that's, that's pretty good.

Here's the thing.

Everybody will see that as hate.

It's not hate.

I genuinely believe he's the number two player of all time at it.

I I think him and Larry Bird are competing for it, but I'll give it to I'll give it to LeBron because Larry's body couldn't hold up.

So I'll give it, I'll give it to LeBron, but I would say it's LeBron.

That it for me, it's LeBron and then it's Larry Bird.

But I have no problem saying he's the second greatest player in the history of the entire sport.

It's a pretty good spot to be in.

Well, I'm going to do the same thing I do when John brings up politics on here.

I'm going to add stain.

Jeremiah, everyone.

So I got to get some controversy going, buddy.

You got it.

Dip those feet into those waters just a little bit.

Now that's what we have you here for, man.

We all let you dip your toes in and tell me if the water's nice and warm.

Oh, it's it's warm, bubbly.

Is it lukewarm?

Is it, I mean, it's, it's like it's massaging.

It's wonderful.

I'm not a post this one, but Outdoor Adventures with with Shane said Kobe's better than LeBron.

We'll get into that one.

OK, let's get, you know, you know what's great about the outdoor YouTube community?

What's that we get to make really good friends and not just friends that that we make through the channels, but we actually become really good friends with these guys.

Like, like, and just this past weekend over Black Friday, you got the opportunity to go backpack with a couple of those guys you want to tell us a little bit about.

That I would love to.

Let's start with the poop, OK?

I told you I'd bookend it with poop.

Bookend it buddy.

Woke up Friday, no one.

I'm going backpacking man.

Couldn't be more excited.

And not only am I going backpacking, I'm hitting a top 25 trail in the US according to Backpacker magazine and other sources.

Apparently it is called the Fiery Gizzard Trail in southern Tennessee.

And dude, you look at it and you think, ah, 1314 miles, no biggie.

So I said, all right, you got to book some campsites ahead of time.

Don't love that.

Tons of waterfalls, over a dozen waterfalls and views.

I think I'll, I think I'll make the sacrifice and, and book the site.

So a month or a month or two ago, I booked us campsites where the first day there'd be 5 or 6 of us that would do 2 1/2 miles because it's a 3 1/2 hour drive from here to the trailhead.

Well, we had guys coming down.

Oh, look at all the poop comments.

We had guys coming down from Lexington and it's a 5 1/2 hour drive and I said y'all are going to pass right through here, let's hit Cracker Barrel on the way.

So I met him here in town, we hit the Cracker Barrel and I actually made me a cup of coffee at the house.

I found I can make a better cup of coffee than almost all the coffee places in town.

Now I'm probably just ordering the wrong thing and they probably could do a way better job.

But I made me a cup of coffee, left it in the car in my Yeti.

We went and got Cracker Barrel and dude, about the time I finished that last drip of coffee, we were on 111 in Tennessee.

And I said we have to stop, man, that it gets it gets the the Stew of brewing.

If you know what I'm.

Saying it, it does.

For those that don't know, coffee is actually a well known laxative.

So if you're ever feeling a little stopped up, go get you a little Java might help out.

Well, it helped me because I said let's stop at the next opportunity.

So we we stopped at this truck stop and I walked in and then immediately realized I didn't have my baby wipes with me and I bought, I brought baby wipes on purpose.

So I had to go back out to the car, get the baby wipes and then go into the bathroom, do my business.

OK, Fast forward, we arrive and we have everything sorted out.

We got to we got to basically shuttle the vehicles.

We had three vehicles because J Pop, he has his wrist injury.

And I know now you sounded older, Ain't he?

I'm the fact he's being called J Pop and he's got a wrist injury.

He has.

His he life has beat him up a little bit and he I don't know how he re injured it.

I think he told me, but he didn't know if he's going to be able to go on this trip.

So he's thinking, you know, we'll shuttle the cars, but he'll leave his at the beginning so that if he has to bail, we'll only be 2 1/2 miles in on that first reserve campsite I have.

So I'll spend the night Friday night and then we'll still have cars at each end.

So he could leave if he has to.

Well, we end up putting we're like, well, let's commit.

We'll leave his car at the beginning.

We'll put the other two cars at the end and then we can drop him off if he decides to stay.

Well, we get in the cars to shuttle and I say, hold on a second.

I'm filling all my pockets.

You know, you need your keys, your wallet.

Didn't have my wallet.

I said, Oh my gosh, bro, I know I have my wallet at that, at that gas station that we stopped at.

I pooped at because I bought some Halls cough drops.

I was like it, you know, throat's a little bit irritated.

I know I'm going to be outside in 30° temps, 20° temps for three days straight.

Won't give me a little travel pack of the Halls.

You know, it's like a little 4 inch travel pack of Halls.

So I look and I look in Jonathan's car because I rode with him.

Couldn't find the wallet.

Everybody stuff is packed up in this one vehicle.

Five of us crammed into Jason's vehicle, All the backpacks crammed in there, too.

Had to take everybody's backpacks out and look all through my backpack.

Can't find it.

Well, Scott says it's it's me, Scott, J Pop, Jonathan and Sean.

Scott says, why don't you go see if your wallet's in his car?

You know all the nooks and crannies, you're going to know it better than him.

Jonathan immediately goes over there, finds my wallet just like that, which is great.

And then he comes back to the car.

We drive to the nut the the other trailhead where we're going to begin.

We get our backpacks on ready to go.

Jonathan fills around.

Where's my phone?

Oh my gosh, now, now I didn't have my wallet.

We make it to the other trailhead.

Jonathan doesn't have his phone and Jason has he says call it, call it, I call it nothing.

Just silence.

Everybody be quiet.

Be quiet if you can hear him vibrating.

Nope, nothing.

So and he also, he's the only one in the group that doesn't have an iPhone.

So we can't do like the Find My iPhone thing.

He has a like a Samsung Galaxy or something.

This mean we now get to ridicule him for being on the wrong side of of the world when it comes to phones.

Well, he's a green bubble, Jeremiah.

He's a green bubble.

You better stop.

Jonathan a hard time about being a green bubble.

You start watching the comments now again, John, because you're talking about this.

You're stirring them up again.

There's some other green bubbles in the comments down there.

Look at him stirring.

It stirring that pot, buddy.

I'm stirring it so well.

My fist is more in focus than my face.

So, Jason?

He's the one that took us to the beginning trailhead.

So he takes Jonathan back.

Luckily it's only a 15 minute Dr.

trailhead to trailhead because the the whole trails 13 or 14 miles.

So immediately finds his phone.

He laid it down the car looking for my hell.

Look at this J Pop hurt his wrist performing all those Korean style dance moves at his performance.

I couldn't help, I had to post that one.

That's funny.

Shout out Steve.

So he takes him back immediately finds his phone.

He just left it in the car whenever he's looking for my wallet.

He gets back, we get packed up ready to go rocking in a rolling and have a great first day.

Dude.

The the waterfalls out there are insane.

Some of them hundreds of feet and double waterfalls, triple waterfalls.

So the first day is awesome.

The only crappy part is it gets dark and I look and I'm like, what time is it?

4:30 PM, It's dark.

So of course we all went to bed earlier that first night because when it gets dark at 4:00 and you're already at camp and set up, you're like, whoa.

Yeah.

What are we?

What are we going to do?

It's 20° out here.

There's not a ton of firewood because you have to reserve your spot ahead of time so you know it's all picked over.

You're not allowed to cut anything standing.

Well, let me ask you this too, because the fiery Gizzard, the trail I've always kind of wanted to do, and one of the things I've heard is it is a really easy trail to Jack up your ankles and your knees on.

There are some real nasty spots that you've got to hike through.

Is that true?

Well, it depends on what section you do because we started day 2 and I knew if the whole trail is 14 miles and you only do 2 1/2 miles the first day and I knew my last campsite was 1/2 mile from the vehicle, that means day 2 is going to be a beast.

You got to do all the miles day 2 pretty much.

Well, we took off, didn't get the earliest to start.

They were waiting on a Stringer.

A little bit surprise, surprise, I was the last one ready to go.

I can't even believe that.

I cannot believe that.

There's even been songs made about this.

Yes, it is true.

So dude, we this was the most frustrating part of the whole thing.

I don't want to hate here, but I'm talking for the first three hours of hiking, every 30 seconds we had to step off the trail because there were trail runners.

They had a half marathon that 100 people signed up for and I, excuse me, 1/2 marathon, yeah, that 100 people signed up for and a full marathon that 46 people signed up for.

So there's 150 people on trail running past us.

So every 30 seconds you step off trail.

Well, you got to remember too, you're doing this on Black Friday weekend.

So I mean, all these things are going on every weekend.

I think they had one on the Shelter Trace too so.

The Turkey trots and all that around Thanksgiving they always do those and a lot of times I run that 5K but I was doing backpacking trip this time so not to hate.

And dude we saw some people running for any size you can think of any shape, any color person all out there bro.

I was very impressed.

I seen two people I don't know if they were Mennonite or Amish or maybe they were neither and they just wore that style of clothing.

But 2 girls, Jesus sandals, bonnet, the whole like Laura Ingalls dress running tonight.

I don't know if they're Mennonite or not.

I would assume Mennonite because I don't know why Amish person how they would even got there and why.

But there were signs for Amish, you know, here and there they got the I guess it's not really for Amish.

They have the you know, the yield signs with the the picture of the wagon on them and usually.

They have to.

Can we respond to some real quick just because it's fun?

Yeah, let's pause for a second.

Go ahead.

So so J Flo just said 90% of the iPhone is made from Samsung parts and then the iPhone then then the comment is and the iPhone is one year behind Samsung in technology.

Except where's the Find My Samsung phone?

I think they have something like that, you just can't like cross-platform.

Well, that's their fault.

Well, I don't think you can Find My iPhone on the Samsung either.

I'm just saying, well actually you could because you could go to the, they have a website that you can go to to find your phone.

I didn't even think of that smart guy.

Yes, I mean you can, but apparently Samsung users can't do that.

So I mean, if they can, great.

But I mean, didn't happen on your trip.

So anyways, there's runners you're trying to hike him to get off the trail.

Yeah, and we reach like the final, the final spot where you're going to see runners because it's like an aid station, the first aid station that we had seen all day.

They had water, Gatorade and Halloween candy, banana, what, you know, the typical marathon food.

Well, the last runner had just went through.

So when we arrived there, it was just before Ravens Point, which is like one of the best views on the entire Fiery Gizzard Trail.

And that's where you hit the hard part.

JK is stirring all the pots today.

It's so true.

So we meet this guy named Eric and his wife.

I'm assuming it's his wife.

I didn't talk to her as much, but they had their little Subaru Outback there and their aid station set up for the marathon runners.

They said the last ones have went through.

Take whatever you want.

So I have me a handful of, you know, the pretzels.

Like you can buy the giant container of like the the Circle pretzels that's filled with peanut butter.

Those things are awesome.

Dude, one of the so delicious when you're out there.

I did have Thanksgiving dinner for Friday night for food, so that was amazing.

And Jonathan brought some of the best cheesecake I've ever had.

All that.

Yeah.

And he had just all kinds of amazing food.

Everybody was sharing it was it was awesome.

Sean had fillets.

I go on and on about the food.

But anyway.

Sounds like he had a rough trip so far.

We, we reached that point at

like 2:00 PM and it's another 4 miles or five miles till we get to camp.

And remember this is 2:00 PM central time, which means it gets dark at 4:00.

That's like sunset.

So dark it like 5:00-ish central time.

And we, we dropped our packs and went and checked out Ravens Point because it was only like .4 miles out there.

And we left her packs at the aid station after gorging herself on Halloween candy and pretzels.

And they had pizza too.

I didn't eat any of the pizza.

And we come back and we're like, what the heck, Eric?

We're supposed to take this trail.

We should have dropped pack like 400 yards further down and then checked out Ravens Point.

Why did you have us to leave our backpacks here at the aid station?

It's not like somebody was going to steal them.

And he's like, y'all are going that way, are you?

And we're like, yeah, we came to go that way.

He's like, no, you don't want to go that way.

And his wife steps in and she's like, are y'all where y'all headed to tonight?

CCC.

And I was like, no, we're going to Grundy, Grundy Forest Campground.

And she was like, well that is CCC.

That's like a camp there, like a old coal homestead camp or whatever.

And she was like, y'all never make it.

And I was like, what do you mean we came to go that way?

And she was like, well, if you want to get there by dark, you ain't going to make it.

She said you're going to have to stick on this side.

So you have a split.

You can either stay up top and walk the ridgeline and hit the views, or you can go down and do this hard part that you're talking about that is basically like, you know, everybody talks about the, the rocks in Pennsylvania and how you're.

Sylvania.

Rock Sylvania.

There's certain stretches that are real rocky and you know, you're having to watch your step and it's one mile an hour at best.

So there is like miles of that on this section.

And Jonathan had just done it a few weeks prior and he was like, Yep, we done one mile per hour.

Took us four or five hours and I was like 4 or five hours, dude.

That'll put us at camp at like 7:30 PM.

So we will have walked in the dark for multiple hours and you're not it it there's like 15 rules for this because it's a State Park, Fiery Gizzard State Park.

Like I mentioned earlier, you can't cut stuff standing.

You have to, you have to book your campsites ahead of time, which is another gripe of mine.

It was $18.00 to book the campsites and most of that was fees.

I was like, what the heck, What are all these fees?

You know, I don't even give me an option to do it in person.

You make me pay the online fee.

Just make that part of the bill.

Don't, don't make me right.

So anyway I digress.

So she convinces us to not take the hard route and the whole time that we walk, we walk like 4 miles on the easier route and Jonathan the whole time he's like God, I'm so glad we didn't take that other route.

He's like this is so much easier.

He's like if I ever do this trail again, I'm definitely taking this dog bone trail instead.

The dog bone trail follows the Ridge.

It's vistas the whole time and it's literally like a Ridge walk and then you get to the last mile and then you, he got to descend down into that like the actual gorge area and climb back out.

So we did that in about the time that we started heading over the hill, it was dark and it was me, Sean and Jason were together.

And then I'd assumed Jonathan and Scott were together, but they're ahead of us.

They had, they had walked ahead of us anyway.

Well, we got a call from Scott and he's like, hey, what campsite are we supposed to be going to?

I was like, campsite #2 where's Jonathan?

He's like, I don't know where Jonathan is.

I was like, dude, it's dark.

Y'all didn't stick together.

No, they didn't stick together.

Well, Scott took a wrong turn and went to the car.

He called us from the car and Jonathan called, called, called.

No answer.

Straight to voicemail.

His phone died.

So here he is, he's by himself.

He's in the dark without any of us.

Scott, are you serious?

Bro, you can't make it up and Jason's like we, he's like we need to stick together.

Do not split because I was like I'll just, I'll, I'll head this path because you can go either way.

It's like 1.31 way or .7 the other way.

But you're going to hit the car.

So I said I'll go this way.

Y'all go get Scott and meet me at the campsite and Jason's like now let's stick together.

It's dark, anything could happen.

I was like, OK, you're right.

You're right.

I should heed your advice.

So we stuck together, couldn't get a hold of Jonathan Scott.

He calls us again and I was like, we're going to campsite too, man.

After we drop off our stuff, we can come get you.

And he's like, no, I'm already headed.

I'm a half mile from the campsite.

He's like, I'll meet y'all there, dude.

We got there to the camp area at the exact same time as Scott and he was like probably an hour ahead of us before that.

Meets us at the sign point and go this way to go into the campground area got there at the exact same time pulled up.

Guess who's sitting there starting to charge his phone at the campsite.

Oh, what all trails he said away.

Well, Scott said, hey, I'm going to head on and I'll I'll go ahead and start gathering firewood before it gets dark.

He'll hike ahead of us and Jonathan's like this whole time I've been hiking, hiking, hiking.

I've been looking so forward to just pulling up Scott having a big nice fire ready for us.

I can set up my stuff, take it easy.

Nope.

I've just been sitting here waiting.

And then I started to say I decided to start gathering firewood.

So Jonathan, he had us a little pile of firewood whenever we pulled up.

Everybody's dog tired.

And I say, guys, you know, I'm a 10 minute walk from the car right now.

I think I'm going to run to the gas station.

Does anybody else want to go no, I could not convince a single person to walk with they were so be really Jason's wrist he could you know he he said it's feeling pretty good but the.

Poor J Pop.

And I didn't even tell you about Sean.

He had blisters.

I remember at 10 AM, they were warm splats.

And you know, I gave him some mole skin.

I offered to tape them up.

And then he he switched over to compete, which is like a second skin.

And then he just kept wearing them to the bone, bro.

He just endured the blister.

So his feet were totally beat up.

He wasn't walking out of there, Scott.

He was dog tired.

He wouldn't leave.

Jonathan.

He's like, no, I'm going, you know, start this fire, get the food going, set my hammock up.

It's been dark for a while.

And Jason, his wrist is hurting him.

He's going to set up.

I said, OK, I need somebody's car keys, bro.

I'll drove, went to the gas station.

There is a Mexican restaurant next to the gas station.

Not a town.

That would have been great.

I walked in there.

I said, hey man, let me get a California burrito.

He said, all right, do you have cash?

I said no, I had to go to the ATM to get out of 20 to pay for this California burrito.

So got me some drinks at the gas station, got Jonathan a Coca-Cola.

I don't think anybody else really wanted anything.

And then I drove back to the the parking area and then walked back to the campsite and pulled up with chip, salsa, guac and me, a big old California burrito.

Walked into the campsite as it started snowing, dude, it started sleeping and snowing as I was well, I started running in the dark with my headlamp on and I started entering the campground.

I was like, did anybody set up my tarp?

Did anybody set up my tarp?

Jason was running to my tarp at the moment with his own stakes.

He's like, I got you bro, I got you.

I was like, OK, I got it.

I got it.

I.

Wrap that.

You got to love J Pop, man.

Come on now.

You can come on now, J Pop.

You're the winner.

Love him to death, man.

You can always count on him.

I wrapped up my California burrito.

You know, you order Mexican to go and it comes in like the little 10 with the paper on top.

Oh yeah, I wrapped that sucker up in my sleep, my top quilt, my 0° outdoor vitals top quilt, and set up my tarp real quick.

Set down in that hammock and that 0° under quilt by UGQ.

And I ate, oh man, I ate the best California burrito I've ever had.

And then I woke up the next morning dying to poop.

Bro it was.

And here's the bookend, people.

Here's the bookend.

So they have, they had pit toilets, but I think it was about 20° whenever we got up the next morning.

So I said, bro, work 15 minute walk from the car and there's a, there is a heated bathroom at the car.

It's still, you know, a low tier bathroom, but there's a heated bathroom at the car.

I'm going to wait it out.

So we make it to the bathroom.

There's already somebody in there.

I'll wait.

Then I go in after they come out, somebody else in the stall, it's A1 staller and a a single urinal.

Somebody else in there and I knocked.

Nobody says anything, but I hear and then so then I'm like, OK, I'm going to have to.

Let you know when something's going on.

Yeah, I already knew.

So I said, Jonathan, dude, we got to get out of here.

This town is so small.

It's called Tracy City.

There's one gas station, there's a there's a Dollar General, there's the Mexican restaurant and O'Reilly auto part.

There's like nothing in this town.

Population 0.

No, I say, dude, we got to get to that gas station.

So we we get in the whip, right?

We take off, we head to the gas station.

Dude, I half jog into the gas station, get in there, straight beam for the bathroom, walk up to the bathroom out of order.

I'm like, Oh my gosh, bro, I am at this point, you know, squeeze.

Those pit toilets, those pit toilets are sounding really good right about now.

I made a mistake, dude.

I made we got a we got a super chat from Andy Ackerman for 499.

It says Team Ginger today.

He's a fart smell.

I mean, smart feller.

Oh my.

God, Jeremiah, there's a question, genuine question from Jay Flow.

Are there videos for this trip?

I think Jason and Jonathan are both doing videos of the trip.

I could be wrong.

Jonathan might not.

Yeah, he yeah, he did.

He recorded the whole thing.

I think Jason did too.

So you'll you'll get to experience a little bit of the journey.

So I'm JS pooped his pants.

I said, Jonathan, he's like I I had a biscuit from here.

They had all different tenderloin, fried Bologna, bacon, egg, cheese, sausage biscuit.

They had I said, dude, get me whatever you get and I got to go.

I sprinted across the street to a Dollar General Market and it happened to be open straight to the bathroom and the door.

The door said, you know, see the front desk for the key to the bathroom.

Luckily it was open and the key was stuck in the door.

I busted in there, dude.

I bet I Jonathan's like, I don't know if you're coming back, man.

You were in there for like 20 minutes and I was like, dude, it was the California burrito I think is what got me.

I won the game, but I kind of feel like a lost, I kind of feel.

You know what I mean?

Is it possible to win the game and still lose?

I think, I think that's our question we need to ask.

And maybe maybe that's our poll question for this week.

Can you put that in the poll, Jeremiah?

Like let's do a poll.

Let's just simply ask the question, is it possible, Is it possible to win the poop game and not poop on trail but still end up losing in the long run?

I think that is a valuable question to ask.

So put that in there, Jeremiah.

I would I can't wait to see what the answers are on this poll.

If you are listening right now, watching right now, we're going to put this on YouTube and on Spotify.

Make sure you get on both of those answer the I want, I want this to be the highest answered post that we've ever done.

So like get on there and and leave the comments.

We need to get a really good idea of what what everybody thinks about that.

According to Taylor Frazier, Dollar General earned that buck.

Dude, I felt so bad I said I got to buy some.

I ended up buying a banana for $0.40 that Dollar General just to say thank you for letting me use the bat.

They have no idea how much they saved my life.

And probably Jonathan's car seats because I wasn't going to make it much further.

Dude look at all the comments.

I'm a loser even when I'm winning.

That's me bro.

That's me Dig a hole bro.

Well, I was at the car at that point and couldn't dig a hole.

I think I think this might be my best answer.

It was a tie, yeah.

That's.

Not a win.

It was a tie.

It was a draw.

Oh.

Dude, So yeah, that's that's my backpacking, my backpacking experience, my bookend of poop.

So hopefully everybody enjoyed my my fire you get there.

I'm sure there's more to come from what happened on the fire you get here.

And you know, the best part about it was that that's our whole episode like that.

We're going to call this episode story time with Jeremiah because that was fantastic.

That was absolutely fantastic.

Next week, we'll be back.

Next week, we've got stuff to talk about, but this was way better.

So I'm so glad this is what we talked about today.

Next, we'll give you a little quick preview of some things we're going to be talking about.

National parks will increase entry fees into parks some by $100.00, so be tuned in for that.

Also, we're going to be talking about trail cams on trail.

Are they bad, are they good, Should we care?

I don't know.

We're going to ask the question next week.

We're going to talk about a little bit.

Jeremiah.

This has been fantastic man.

Been enjoyable.

It was more fun reliving it than living it, I'll be honest.

Yeah, Yeah.

Well, yeah, I was, I was living it vicariously through you.

You were out backpacking.

I was driving because we went to Eastern Kentucky for my wife's family for Thanksgiving.

So while you guys were heading towards the trail, I was driving home.

But I did get up early the next morning.

And those ducks that I'm eating tonight, I actually shot last Saturday.

So yeah.

So it was a good weekend for me too.

Although I got to get on a trip.

I'm about to go insane.

Me and a buddy were talking last night.

We're starting to plan a trip now and it's happening real soon because I'm going to go nuts.

Well, if you could do the fiery gizzard man, I would endorse it full heartedly.

Well, I don't know if I can do that on an overnight but.

That's true.

That would be a tough overnight.

I'll tell you I've got now we're not going to get us.

It's make this this thing an hour and a half long, but I've got some other places I want to go, some definite other places I want to go.

So we'll see what happens.

But Jeremiah, for myself and for you, everybody, have a great day and we'll catch you on the next one.