Meredith Oke: Carrie Bennett, welcome back to the QVC podcast.

Carrie Bennett: Thanks for having me back, Meredith.

Great to chat with you.

Meredith Oke: Okay, so one of the most popular episodes I think that I've ever done was where you walked us through circadian biology, into quantum biology, into what I like to say, un.

Debunking the ether.

I think there's a lot of things that are about to get undebun the coming, coming years.

So let's.

Let's start with a recap of that because it's a really profound shift.

It triggered a lot of people.

I got more comments on that.

Back before we got kicked off YouTube.

There were a lot of people on YouTube were like, but the Mickelson Morley.

I'm like, that is covered in the interview.

Go back and watch it.

And they were really angry that we could talk about the ether in a realistic way.

But most people found it extremely profound and had a really intuitive sense that, yes, there is something more going on.

Okay, so let's do it.

Circadian quantum ether.

Carrie Bennett: Perfect.

Right?

Okay.

So I think the way that we would categorize this based on, like, if we wanted to call it categories, I would say understanding light leads people to this concept of understanding water.

A truer understanding of water leads people to a truer understanding of this field of energy that energizes, it informs our bodies and just basically all of creation.

And so circadian, right?

We are.

We are beings who need to know time of day in order to organize all the tasks in our body.

And that's done by light, as you very well know.

And this isn't a new concept.

This is the thing, too, that I think I want people to understand.

Like, there is this thing called that.

The very first quote, unquote, circadian education I got was when I was in massage therapy school 20 years ago, and I was given an organ clock of traditional Chinese medicine.

Organ clock.

It's like, oh, these organs are active at these times.

And then they're basically in their calmest period at these times.

And I thought to myself, oh, that's interesting.

That's funny.

I mean, I never thought of that way.

I wonder how they knew that.

And now it's like we're just getting a more detailed approach to.

Okay, so now we know that testosterone is at its peak at this time of day, and bowel movements are more likely here, but less likely here.

And now we're more likely to be have active metabolism versus repair metabolism.

And all of these tasks, from the level of the organ in the body all the way down into the tiny Tiny cellular tasks and the functioning of the mitochondria, all of those are based and need the correct time in order to be able to know when to run, when to proceed, how intense or less intense, how active or in recovery mode do these things have to be.

And that's reliant on light signaling.

And that light signaling is that blue wavelength range of light that is changing.

It's very small at sunrise, goes high at solar noon, and then goes down and away at sunset.

And that timing and then a period of darkness, that is the timing that we require to basically run all of our tasks and our programs to the best of our ability.

That's that light signal that we need.

So that's understanding how light inferior forms our body.

But there's another aspect of light that I would say is not as the same as what we call circadian in that it keeps timing and it's how light energizes our physical body.

And there's many ways that that happens as well as, you know, we can get that light to strike our skin and we can, through the water that connects to the melanin in our skin, we, we can actually break that water up into something called molecular hydrogen and molecular oxygen.

That hydrogen, that's a charged donor, that's an energy donor to my mitochondria.

It calms inflammation, so it helps to conserve energy in my body and in my cells.

And so that's when light strikes the skin.

But the key intersection here that led me to water in general is that we've got that special type of water inside of us that Jerry Pollock really popularized, where that water becomes charge separated or instead of water just being this neutral liquid in a glass, when light strikes that water and that water has to be next to a water loving surface to do this.

And we are water loving surfaces, we're full of water loving surfaces.

Then when water, when, when, when you have water next to that water loving surface and then you add this input of infrared light, you, that water becomes negatively charged and pushes out an area of positive charge.

And that negative and positive charge literally forms a battery of energy inside of us.

And so that's where circadian leads us to understand information.

But circadian and light gives us energy as well.

And then that leads us to this understanding of this water, this water inside of us.

Meredith is special.

It's a completely different type of water that now I categorize it as some people call it, structured, it can be called easy water.

I call it liquid crystalline water because that allows us to understand that Liquid crystals have very unique properties, properties such as being broadband frequency antenna.

And I'm talking like this is not woo woo stuff.

There's literally patents out there, right, for these types of things, right?

So liquid crystalline based technologies are a thing where we can literally have, have very tunable programmable antenna because of what liquid crystals can do.

They're these antenna, they're data storage.

So again, we've got these, this holographic.

Again, patents holographic optical data storage based on liquid crystalline technology.

We are these liquid crystalline data storage.

Does my brain have the memories?

No.

Right.

Like the memories are in the field and we can retrieve them because we're these antenna, we can process them through our liquid crystalline water.

That's my, that's my take in my theory anyways, which leads us to.

Then what.

What is this field around us?

Right?

Well, it certainly, it contains, it contains light, but that's a less than 1% of all the energy around us.

And you know, we can, we, we already have a podcast on the Ether.

But debunking the ether made it very easy for physics equations and, or for math essentially to model mathematical models of the universe.

And.

But it goes against what every ancient civilization ever talked about was that there's this field around us that both surrounds us and permeates us that is literally a source of energy and contains all the information that ever was and potentially frankly, ever will be.

Right?

And so all the potential.

And now that is why I was like, okay, so light informs our body.

This water has special properties.

And we have a direct connection from this water to that, to this ether that is a source of energy and information.

So energy and information from light, energy and information from the ether, water as this beautiful receiver.

And we're water beings for a reason.

And so that's like my general summary of where I am now with my understanding.

Meredith Oke: Oh my God.

Okay, this is, this is really amazing because it, it just, it feels so true, right?

Like, you know, we, I think a lot of us walk around with these little pockets of like, I don't know, emptiness or like, okay, but like a gap.

And it's because I feel like we've been cut off from like a cosmological understanding of ourselves in the universe.

They've taken mythology away.

You know, we don't study myth anymore.

We don't study astrology.

You know, all of the astrology, you know, all of the ancient civilizations you referenced all had stories of creation whether you took them literally or not.

But it, it fed our souls in a way that we and we no longer have that sustenance through those stories.

And I think we've tried to replace it with science and the science that we have isn't filling that gap.

But this model feels so different.

Okay, so the light keeps our body in time.

We know when to digest.

We know when to sleep.

We know when to repair.

We know when to have energy.

We know when to chill out.

It also charges up our bodies because we are in fact liquid crystals in the water inside of us could be described as a liquid crystal.

And then.

Okay, I want to get into this part a little more.

So then the liquid crystal is communicating with the light, which we really, you know, that's the charge and the circadian rhythm and all of that.

And the ether?

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, all of it.

All, all frequencies.

Meredith Oke: And so how so is the light.

Is the ether a conduit for the light or is the ether?

It's how so?

Carrie Bennett: I mean, people, people would, I think sometimes want to say that light moves through the ether, but essentially light is just creating a disturbance in the ether.

So you got, we gotta view the ethereum from.

It's that the other thing that, that kind of is why I really like talking about the ether in conjunction with water is that I think they're fractals of each other.

Because the ether has been described by, before it was debunked, right?

It was described as like this luminiferous super fluid and so this fluid based system.

And so we're like, wait, this is fluid?

Like, how is this fluid?

Well, and like the silly analogy is the obvious one is like, well, how does the fish know that it's swimming in water?

Right?

Just.

It's always been like that.

And so now modern physics is catching up to the fact that we do that.

It has superfluid properties to it.

And so if, if I, if I am water, I am in resonance.

If I am a fluid based system, I'm in resonance with other fluids.

It's like the tuning fork effect, right?

Like this tuning fork is going to be in resonance with a tuning fork that looks exactly like it and, and is the exact same shape because they've got what's called geometric resonance or, or shape resonance.

We have a resonance and an innate capability that we've never been taught to, quote, unquote, tap into the ether or connect more deeply into all of the energy and information that's part of the ether.

But it's, it's not part of our.

We don't, we're not part of these wisdom teachings anymore, right?

We're not getting this, this information passed down from generation to generation.

But there's so many inherent aspects of us being water beings.

Yes, we're liquid crystalline, so we are antenna.

Yes, we're liquid crystalline, so we can actually process, transmit, take, take in data and you know, change it to make, to, to fit whatever the energy system needs in the body, whatever information the body needs.

So that liquid crystalline property is key.

But we're also simply a fractal of water.

But then what are a fractal of the ether.

But what is the ether?

That's, I mean, we can call this, call the ether God.

Right?

We're a spark of the divine.

Like we are divine in our inherent creation.

And it's just now it's, it's like, it's like understanding of, of, you know, religion and faith from a child, it was kind of like.

Yeah, yeah, I get it, I get.

But it's like, no.

Now I had to go into science to reject mainstream science to go into this more kind of alternative type of science to just go back to, to faith again, into the divine right and to understand that that's also an inherent part of who we are because we are a fractal of the ether.

We are a fractal God and we're.

And that then leads to this whole other, I think, scary concept that people, maybe there are nefarious entities that don't want us to believe, to believe this and, or it's just maybe considered too woo.

But then that brings up concepts such as like telepathy, remote viewing, sitting in stillness and receiving an answer, asking for an answer and receiving an answer.

Because that's, that's our direct connection.

We are that closely connected to, to God that we can, we can cultivate these.

It's just a lot of people would call these like, you know, psychic capabilities or you have to be spiritually gifted.

It's like, no, these are built into all of us because of this, from my understanding, because of this blueprint, because of this fractal relationship.

It's just we're never, we're never taught about it.

We're never encouraged to explore it.

Meredith Oke: Yeah, that's true.

And even when we are taught meditation, it's often not in that way.

It's just about calming the mind and breathing and calming down.

But you have to go, you have to search pretty hard to find.

I mean, maybe not for our audience, but the type of meditation that does encourage you to connect to those answers.

And I guess for some people that's prayer.

You know, I was I was taught that prayer is talking and meditation is receiving.

So.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, so that's really one of the practical applications of all of this esoteric stuff, right?

Meredith Oke: Yeah, well, and it's, it's, yeah, because there are so many and I think like it all comes together, right, because part of the reason that we're cut off from that receptivity is as we're physically cut off by our modern life, which is cutting, you know, with our bad light environment and bad EMF environments and bad toxic food and all of these things, you know, when you look at it through this model would be clogging the receptors for us to connect to the, to the ether.

And then you layer on top of that resentments and fear and you know, tribal based conflict that's manipulated through the media.

And like you add.

And it's like, of course it seems what we're talking about might seem totally impossible.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, yeah, it's very true.

There's a lot about modern living that disconnects us from this.

I mean this understanding is not even in, it's not even taught obviously in, in schools.

But there's a lot that, about our modern living that just disconnect us from nature.

And when we disconnect from nature, I think it really impairs our ability to like receive more strongly even, even something like intuition.

That one of the coolest things that I see when people return to understanding how to get the light signals to signal energy and information to their body, how to earth and ground and go outside and be in the shade of the trees, because we'll teach them that there's near infrared that gets reflected off of the greenery and helps their mitochondria make melatonin.

Like we, it's like we teach like the science of connecting back to nature.

But what's not taught, but what inherent like inherently awakens in people is this intuitive, more right brained aspect of, of what I think we're really lacking these days.

I think science, you know, that very left brain teaching disconnected us from the capability to tap into intuition at a stronger level.

And so the coolest thing I hear from people is I'm not outsourcing my body's needs anymore.

I'm not outsourcing it to an app or to a clinician or the latest guru or the protocol or whatever it is.

I can now literally because of strengthening that connection to nature and having that more right, I think, I think more right brain, you know, capabilities, they're all the answers come to them.

It's like they intuitively will reach for a supplement that they may not have taken in, you know, like in a year, right.

This cell salt.

And it's like, oh, all of a sudden my body's asking for this cell salt.

Or they'll say, I don't.

It's like, what diet?

It's like, it's, oh, it's not a specific diet.

They know how to nourish themselves.

They know what their body is asking for.

They inherently know how much light their body needs or does.

It's like, it's just a really cool thing.

It's like, I love it as a clinician.

Like, you know, yes.

Am I trying to, am I do I want a robust community because I love engaging with people and certainly I make a living doing this and teaching this and having people pay for, you know, me, me being in community with them.

But if you're good on your own, I am thrilled.

That's the goal of it all, is to get people to the point where, where they can cut through all the BS that we're be that it's projected into us from media, from conditioning, from societal quote, unquote norms, so that they can actually, I think, tap into this greater information so that they can just do what is best for their bodies, for their families, without outsourcing it to someone else.

Meredith Oke: I love that.

I, I, I think that's absolutely the path.

It is.

And so many, you know, practitioners and coaches and clinicians that we interact with, I think see it that way.

It's like, you know, there's, there's different phases.

You need, like, very clear, strong guidance in the beginning, but over time, yes.

The goal is to connect with yourself and with the environment, which is the ether, so that you can interpret the signals from your body yourself.

Carrie Bennett: Exactly.

Meredith Oke: Yeah.

I mean, why not?

Carrie Bennett: Exactly.

Meredith Oke: So, okay, you mentioned something before I turned the recording on, which I totally agree with, which is that we will all be called to be our best selves over the coming year.

There's, we're just at a moment in history, I think, you know, day to day history, but also cycles of cosmology.

Like, there's, there's, there's things happening at every level and we are alive for it.

So let's get into the practical sort of applications of all of this, because for those people listening to a podcast like this, and I'm sure you listen to lots of other ones as well, like, we're all here doing this for a reason.

Like, we need to, we need to tap into this vibe, so to speak, because we're gonna need it.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, there's a lot.

And it can be fun.

Meredith Oke: I'm not trying to be scary here.

Carrie Bennett: Like, it can all be good, but we are gonna be okay.

Like, like civilization as we.

Right?

No, no, this is not.

This is not that vibe.

In terms of, like, let's just call it out, right?

In terms of the greater cycles, there are cycles that are 25,900 years in length.

Right, right.

And these grander cycles are periods.

It's like an ellipse.

There's periods where humanity comes into a greater awakening and they go into that.

A greater period of darkness and kind of forgetting.

And we are.

If you're looking at it from that cycle, we're like in this beautiful period of awakening and awakening beyond what, where we were before, where.

Where there is an energetic input that is helping us, I think, to remember more than we ever did after coming out of a period of.

Of forgetting.

And, you know, it might sound weird and might sound stupid, but look into it, right?

Look into these.

These cycles that, again, ancient civilizations knew about, right?

They knew about these cycles.

They are literally depicted on.

On walls that are, you know, 10,000 years old.

That these are people, are people who are aware of these things.

It's just we're finally now, I think our forgetting is lessening.

I think we're all here to help ourselves remember and help other people remember.

And the energetic input is such that we are more capable than ever to utilize the shifting energies for our benefit.

But with shifting energies, with more intense energy.

This is also yin and yang, right?

With more intense energy comes the potential for more intense chaos.

And so how can we make sure we steady ourselves in the chaos in order to really fulfill what we came here to do?

Meredith Oke: Beautiful.

Beautiful.

That's exactly how I've been thinking about it.

I was just talking about even the framework of quantum biology as a stabilizing framework, right?

Like, it's.

It's.

You don't want to grab it too tightly.

On the other hand, it does act as a structure to hold a lot of new information and help us make sense of that.

Make sense of it.

So our consciousness isn't free, fractured by, like, what?

You know, I've been reading a lot of hardcore scientists who.

Who went down the rabbit hole and had a serious dark night of the soul because it called into question their entire identity as a person.

And, you know, I think if we can familiarize ourselves with some of these frameworks that type the.

That the darkness of that night can be a little alleviated.

And also we can feel Better.

So we have the energy.

So let's, let's talk about all of this in terms of.

Let's just start with the idea of aging, you know, and, you know, most people, you know, things start to happen and they go to the doctor and they're like, yeah, you're getting older.

That's just it.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah.

Meredith Oke: So what's like, let's reframe that.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, sure.

So, I mean, there's multiple things that have been studied in relationship to aging.

Right.

So like, we've, they've looked at telomere length, which is, you know, the ends of our DNA.

And when we're supposedly, when we're young, they're longer and then those telomeres shorten, shorten, shorten, and that leads to, you know, changes in the DNA that can ultimately.

So there's a genetic basis basically for aging.

There is a, what's, what's called a senescent basin basis for aging.

Meaning we get these cells that are damaged but can't clear themselves from a tissue and they stay in this tissue and they just secrete inflammatory signaling and really lessen the functioning of a tissue.

And you get enough of these.

And again, there's that.

That's going to lead to what we, the quote unquote, diseases of aging.

You also have a more mitochondrial based approach to it, meaning if the mitochondria are living inside of these cells and these organs and they're not able to adequately both provide enough energy for that tissue to function optimally, and they're also then not able to clear up at the metabolic damage that's occurring naturally throughout the day, but also in conjunction with other insults to the body, toxins, electromagnetic radiation, things like that, that will over time lead to aging as well.

And there's one final one I'll tell then I'll tell you which ones I really resonate most with.

But there's one final one as well.

And again, we're talking a little esoteric here, Meredith, so we're going to go with the concept of there is truly energy that we do derive from the ether.

There is a life force, vitality.

It's, you know, chi, prana ki, you know, you, you name it, it's vital force.

Right?

It's been called different names, but we actually can tap directly into it.

And, but that is tapped into more through things like how we're breathing.

It's tapped into through how we think and conduct our lives.

And that's also, if you're taking a modern spin on it, look into the work of Dan Winter about literally, we are always designed to implode this into our bot, into our physical bodies and then distribute it and implode and dist.

But in order to do so effectively, so that we are quote unquote more negentropic or more syntropic or more self organizing as opposed to chaos inducing or chaos creation.

So I would say aging here could be my body is in more chaos than I can reorganize back.

And that life force, that toroidal field of energy that surrounds us in our biofield that's full of this life force energy, we can actually help to organize the implosion of that life force into us in a more organized way.

Or we can't, we won't.

And that's actually done through more of a David Hawkins scale of consciousness, meaning that we are living our lives not in shame, fear, guilt, anger, hatred, apathy, but instead we are trying to have a fundamental state of peace, of joy, of bliss and of authenticity.

Those are the top ones.

And so it's not like love you, I love you no matter what, even though you hurt me.

It's like we can still emote, we can still be authentic, but it's what is my baseline state that I return to.

And we, we want it to be peacefully authentic basically.

And that is also how we can implode more life force energy.

So we're self organizing.

So those are the, those are the people who are, you know, have cultivated some sort of, usually they've cultivated some practice of meditation or breath work or for example, meta like loving kindness meditation.

They've cultivated some practice where they're 85 years old, but they look like they're 60, right?

And it's because they can literally sustain self organization through this coherent energy in their biofield, coming into their bodies and being life force for their bodies.

Or it's those people who live angry.

They're, they're, they're, you know, in their 50s, they're angry, they're grumpy, they're, you know, just.

Or they drive a lot of fear.

And they look like they're in their 80s, right?

I mean there's you.

We've all had been across people like that in our lives and I think it's a very interesting thing.

And there's actually, if you look back into ancient texts, they'll talk about people living till 200 years or older have still full of vitality.

I think it's because they cultivate number one, they don't have the same exposures that we have in terms of our modern living.

But at the same time, I think they cultivated the practice of knowing how to take that energy from.

From the ether, that life force, and harness it for their body's self organization as opposed to chaos.

Meredith Oke: That makes total sense to me.

Carrie Bennett: Good.

Because sometimes I don't know, Marian, Sometimes I don't know.

But then from the quantum biology perspective of this, it's like I really, truly think our mitochondria, and also the status of the water, because mitochondria make water.

That's their version of making energy for us.

So if we can allow them to make water appropriately and maintain that water battery inside of us.

And the mitochondria also make melatonin in our cells, which clears up damage.

If we can help the mitochondria through the lens of quantum biology, maintain healthy water production and healthy melatonin production, I think that goes a long way towards preventing excessive aging.

Right.

And also at the same time, the practices that we teach in quantum biology are the ones that like you said, I think they help to bring order to the chaos.

They give us a framework through which we can then get into nature and understand the why behind why.

It's like I needed a reason to go outside.

I needed a reason to touch the earth.

I needed a reason to go into the forest.

And so that, that quantum biology framework I think is huge.

When it gave me the reason, the why, and as I.

As I started to do it because I really believed in the why, then all these other beautiful changes occurred as well.

Meredith Oke: Yes.

And it all, it all connects back, back together.

I think sometimes people hear we get focused on a certain type of information that we need to learn.

Light, what I should be eating.

And then we just.

The way our minds work, we put little blinders on and make it all about that.

And then we come out and realize, oh no, everything else matters too.

This is.

I was just needed to focus on this in order to integrate this piece.

So I love that your, your description there because it really is, it's, it's holistic, it's the whole piece.

I mean, I was just realizing recently that like I was like sort of not over invested but deeply invested in, you know, like the cognitive piece and the spiritual piece and like totally mostly ignoring my biology.

And it's like.

So I wasn't cultivating the, like the capacity that I needed to hold all this energy.

And I realizing now that was a big part of the chronic fatigue.

So we just keep circling to all of the, all of the things that, that we need.

And I'M thinking too because you, you, you know, we're mentioning how what we would term psychic and how somebody needs to have special psychic abilities.

But maybe that's our natural state.

And maybe.

And then drawing the line over to aging, it's like maybe those outliers who live 100 over to be over 100, maybe they're the natural state and we're the ones.

And dying in your 80s is actually unnatural.

Like, who knows?

Carrie Bennett: Yeah.

No, I love that take on it.

I think that you're spot on.

I think we equate normal or what's typical, what we call normal or typical with what's natural, what the way it is.

Right.

And I just think that we, I don't think we've been empowered enough to actually explore.

It's the, the, it's the concept also of like the four minute mile.

Right.

That example where it's like you're no one's ever going to run a sub 4 minute mile.

No one's going to ever run a sub 4 minute mile.

Then a sub 4 minute mile is run and then you've got dozens of people in the next year and then the next year, like everyone now knows, oh, I can run a sub 4 minute mile if I train hard enough.

Right.

Or if I have that type of talent in me.

And so it's like we just are not, we're not given the opportunity to think, oh, you know, I can like it's normal to live to 150 and not that, like, not that age.

And I don't want people to think like aging's not bad.

Right.

Like, I don't, I don't want to be 20 again.

Meredith Oke: God knows.

Carrie Bennett: But, but that being said, but I also think that we are, we're not even given the tip of the iceberg when it comes to our potential.

Potential as humans.

Meredith Oke: Yes.

No, I, it's funny, use that word, potential.

Yeah, I came to that just last week.

I'm like, that's really what all of this is for is to like raise the ceiling on what, what we think that is.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah.

Meredith Oke: Okay.

So we looked at aging.

Let's look at, let's sort of go back in time to you know, hormones in midlife and, and the fertility years.

How does, how does all of this play into our, our hormones?

Carrie Bennett: Yeah.

I think a huge part of hormone imbalance these days.

Absolutely.

Is, is the light environment.

Now don't get me wrong, I understand there's endocrine disruptors.

Right.

So I'm not going to tell you that you can get Your light environment optimized.

And then also wear a bunch of body lotion, like you know, artificial body lotions or you know, you get it right, you get the concept.

And so I think like you said, it's all the things.

But how does light play into this?

Light is a signal, it's an information signal about essentially when we're supposed to produce hormones throughout the course of 24 hours.

And if we've got the correct light signaling, we will surge sex hormones at the right time to optimize our energy and our fertility and just hormone imbalance in general.

If we're not in those hormonal years anymore or those fertility years anymore.

And when we have incorrect light signaling, we get incorrect hormone surges that now will lead to things like estrogen dominance.

It can lead to an increased risk for things like estrogen or all types of hormone sensitive cancers, frankly.

But we see an increase in things like breast cancer, ovarian cancer, uterine cancer, prostate cancer.

And so the light pieces I think is fundamental.

And what I love to see is that as people do this, these light practices, one, one of the, it can take a while, like it can take literally 10 months for this to happen.

But people will start to say, oh, I'm back to a 28 day cycle.

I'm ovulating on a full moon.

I am, you know, having my, my bleed menstrual cycle on, on the new moon.

And like that's a very, that like again, we're designed to be in touch with those signatures of energy, the light, the lunar cycles.

And as we engage more with, with healthy life practices, we not only get the correct daily release of our hormones and production of our hormones, but we get the correct monthly release, if you will.

And then from a circannual perspective as well, we'll get all of that balanced out.

And so light, I think is fundamental to the hormone story.

And we can go into the exact details of what and why and how.

For example, over a 24 hour clock that is, that happens and what we're doing in modern life to derange it.

But light I think for the hormone is hormone balance is fundamental.

Meredith Oke: Okay, so yeah, just give us a quick picture of that 24 hour clock then.

Carrie Bennett: So yeah, so we're designed at sunrise.

At sunrise there's the correct light signaling in terms of the amount of blue and red and the brightness for our brain to say day has started, let's surge our energizing hormone.

And that's called cortisol.

But cortisol is one of a whole group of sex hormones.

So cortisol is a sex hormone, also called a steroid hormone, that starts with a hormone at the top of it.

Well, it starts with cholesterol.

Cholesterol is the backbone of all of our sex hormones.

But when cholesterol, when the body perceives that the day has started, then the mitochondria in our adrenal glands and in our reproductive organs, they start to make the very top sex hormone called pregnenolone.

And then that pregnenolone gets divvied up into all of the hormones that we would call sex, that we typically call sex hormones like estrogen, progesterone, dhea, testosterone.

And it also becomes cortisol, because we need a healthy surge of cortisol in the morning that to go into the blood, because that is what I call the chemical resonance signature of daytime.

Right.

It surges into the blood.

Cortisol vibrates at a certain resonance.

Certainly it may dock into receptor sites as well.

And the body knows that the day has started.

And based on the amount of cortisol, it's like, it's a way that we track daytime, the morning, if you will, and then the cortisol will start to level off and drop.

And so that we're not going to have it elevated in the evening, but when cortisol surges in the morning, it's going to surge number one.

We need that stimulus of sunrise light, that morning light signal, in order to have that pregnenolone, enough pregnenolone in the first place, to become adequate cortisol.

That put steroid hormones.

A lot of people aren't getting that.

I wasn't right.

I had flatlined hormones, low energy, low libido, you know, cycle imbalances, you know, you name it.

And so when I started to get that morning light, one of the first things that came on was my energy because my body was naturally making that cortisol.

What I also recognized that my body needed, besides just getting that signal that the day has started, was I had to give my body safety signals.

So earthing and grounding is a safety signal because I'm connecting to the.

The Schumann resonance, for example.

I'm geolocating my body on the planet.

And then I gave myself breakfast and those safety signals.

My body was able to say, okay, day has started, so we're going to make cortisol.

But we also know that Carrie is not in a threatened state, so we don't have to overproduce cortisol, because if we overproduce cortisol, it's at the expense of the other sex hormones.

And so we're going to produce a circadian appropriate surge of cortisol.

And then we get to take the rest of the pregnenolone and divvy it up into all of the other hormones of fertility to optimize where Carrie's at in her menstrual cycle or her monthly cycle.

So, so that's what starts to happen.

If we use that morning light signature and we give the safety signals to the body, if we.

Conversely, what was happening at night as well, what happened for people, because people can have low hormones during the day, they can get a second wind at night and also have symptoms of estrogen dominance.

And it's all related to misinformed light signaling, essentially the wrong light signaling into their bodies.

Because I wasn't getting that morning light, but I was definitely getting plenty of artificial light at night.

And when we get that artificial light at night, the brain says, oh, has the day started again?

Like, is it the middle of the afternoon?

When, when, what time of day is it?

I thought the day was long enough that we should be going to bed.

So melatonin gets suppressed, cortisol surges again, but cortisol doesn't surge by itself.

When you get that surge of cortisol, you get a secondary surge at the wrong time of day with all of the other steroid hormones.

And over time, with the suppression of melatonin, that will predispose people to hormone imbalance and also these hormone sensitive cancers that we see as well.

So it's a light story.

A ton.

A huge piece of it is a light story when it comes to getting the correct signaling of hormones, raising when they're supposed to raise being suppressed and raising melatonin when it needs to be elevated, and then giving those safety signals as well.

Meredith Oke: Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, I obviously talk about this topic a lot, but every time I'm just like, wow.

You know, and if every.

Anything else that we're saying or you hear is like, you're like, what are they talking about?

If one thing lands, it's just the light, right?

That one piece can have such a, like, deep and profound effect on our physiology and our biology.

And we, you know, I think every time I hear it, it's like I'm making up for never having heard it for the first 41 years of my life.

Now I need to hear it all the time.

And it ties into all the other things you're talking about so beautifully.

But yeah, it's, it's a tough one.

Because we are surrounded by people who, like, have no idea.

Carrie Bennett: And you just want to be like, please.

But, you know, it, it is eventually it, like we are reaching a critical threshold.

Like, you know, speaking of the ether, what's in the ether?

It's, it's this morphogenetic field of human consciousness and human awareness.

And if enough of us start engaging with this information, we will reach that hundredth monkey effect.

We will get that critical think threshold of the number of us that need to have this awareness for it to all of a sudden just essentially be a normal download into all of human consciousness.

I truly believe that's the case.

I don't think we're there yet, but I think we're approaching it.

I'm hopeful that we're approaching it soon.

Meredith Oke: I agree.

I think we're.

I mean, just in the last few years, we've gotten.

It's shifted so much.

I just had somebody this week send me a link to an article in the Economist that was like, should we maybe change the public health recommendations on sunlight?

And they, they cited the Swedish study.

Carrie Bennett: Oh, no way.

They pulled it all up.

All of it.

Meredith Oke: They pulled it all up.

And then, of course, they had the requisite paragraph.

We don't have enough information and we need to be careful and we don't really know the mechanism of all of this and blah, blah, blah.

And then you're reading that and you're like, well, we do, actually.

You just haven't looked into it.

Carrie Bennett: Right, right.

The fact that that's even an article is huge.

Meredith Oke: But the fact.

Yes, and, and 90% of the article was focused on the benefit of sunlight, you know, with the requisite disclaimer from someone who wasn't into it at the end.

So.

Yeah, and that wasn't the Economist, for goodness sake.

So, yeah, the shifts, the shifts are coming.

So, yeah, I'm curious, like, you have been, you know, coaching practitioners and working with clients, really focused on this for, for years.

And what are you seeing?

What are some of the, the common things you see?

What are some of the anomalies?

And, you know, at the Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, we have so many different types of practitioners who all layer in this perspective.

Right.

Because it's not, it's.

It's a operate, it's a way of.

It's a lens, it's not a modality.

So just share what comes to mind.

Carrie Bennett: Oh, my gosh, that's an interesting question.

Number one.

I do.

I, I think as if you're starting off with this, it is, it is helpful like you said, to have the guidance of a clinician who is well versed in, in these strategies we're talking about.

Because I will get people to come and this is no judgment on them in any capacity.

They're all lovely human beings, but they'll say that they're doing all the things right?

And it, and, and sometimes that's not even close to being true, right?

It's like I'm occasionally going outside in the morning, I'm not blocking the artificial light before I wake up.

I'm not as good with blue blockers at night time or, or like, you know, I'm doing all the things, but I haven't bought a pair of blue blockers yet.

It's like, that's where it's like, okay, these are like, here are the really foundational things that I, I really want you to focus on.

But then, and light is like, light is a foundational tier.

But for me, light and mindset go hand in hand, right?

So it's like I also need someone to stop claiming identity with my lime, my Hashimoto's, my, you know, whatever condition that they've been labeled as having.

And so I think that there's a, that, that, that we, we do tout light.

And for some people, three days of changing their light environment literally changes their lives.

I've heard that so many times.

It's such a blessing to be able to like, you know, share this information and have someone have such a profound effect like that.

But sometimes for some people that, that can, you gotta add in a couple more things or do things a little bit differently.

Like it's not, you're not following the best light protocol for you if you don't have the blue blockers or whatnot.

So there's, there's that.

I also then have people who do the light stuff.

But there's, you know, I think, I think understanding the water and optimizing that water in the body is foundational.

I think there's a huge piece where we wanna not think that EMFs are impacting us.

And I'll have people who will sleep with wearables, right, who will, or like have their cell phone next to their pillow and stuff.

It's like.

And so there's these things where you're just like, I think that is where a clinician comes in and can say, there's some things that I'm really glad that you're doing correctly.

And I, or I think in a really, really beneficial, potentially beneficial way for you.

But let's dive a Little bit deeper now.

So it.

So sometimes it's easy to hear podcasts be like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do all the lights stuff.

But we do need someone to maybe hone in on the other things as well.

But also I'll hear, well, I go out in the sun and now I'm just exhausted all the time.

It's like, I'm tired.

Like, why am I so tired?

Because I'm getting more sunlight.

I'm.

Why am I tired after getting red light therapy?

And that's where we'll say, I'll say, your body now is building.

In our world, we call it redox, which is just adequately charged water or adequate energy inside the body to flow.

Finally, tell your body to calm down, get parasympathetic so we can heal.

Right.

The body has been, had been in such.

Either a depleted state because that, that energy, that sort key source of energy had been so drained and likely at the same time.

There is an aspect of the nervous system that is dysregulated in one capacity or the other.

Sometimes it's both, you know, on, on go, both on break, one really driven.

So that nervous system through light and earthing especially comes back into balance.

And when that happens, the body says, okay, I.

This nap, is that you feeling tired and wanting to nap after your light exposure?

It's not pathological or dysfunctional.

It's because your body has the energy and the nervous system balanced out to finally go in and heal.

And so there's like a lot of little tweaks and things.

And there is this coaching that we need to do when it comes to helping people through this because sometimes, like I said, it's a beautiful, like, I've healed in three days story.

And a lot of the time it's a, let's continue to, you know, progress you through this through this lens that we've, that we've used with so many people that we know is beneficial.

It's foundational human health, human signaling, human energy optimization.

But sometimes it takes a little longer.

There's other tweaks we need to do.

Meredith Oke: Yeah, yeah.

And yeah, we, I mean, we started off talking about how, yeah, you want to get to the point where you're so in touch with your body that you understand.

However, if you're at the, you know, at a point in your journey where you're not there yet.

Absolutely.

Please, like join a group, work with a practitioner, get a health coach.

Like, we need, we need guidance in the beginning because, yeah, there are these other things and you start, you do something for a while and then something pops up or some, something happens and it's like, oh, oh wait, what's this?

What's this about?

And it's like, okay, it's leading us to the next, in the next direction that we need to head.

Carrie Bennett: And people view when symptoms pop up, people view them as like we have this framework that right now where people, we think that they're bad.

It's like, my, oh, my body's not working again.

Like oh, I was doing so what up?

It's like, no, sometimes there's actually a reversal of the symptoms reappearing in the reverse order.

Right?

Because that's a, that's very, very homeopathic type thing.

Just to, to see when you're working through homeopathy, it's like this reversal.

It's like, okay, whatever you were experiencing first, maybe it was debilitating stomach pain that clears up and then all of a sudden the migraines pop back up again.

But like it's your body kind of going back through like healing things.

Symptoms will reappear transiently, but if that, then we do things to suppress them.

The symptoms, we actually kind of can delay the healing response.

So this is where we're kind of working people through just the mindset of healing.

Healing is for some people, yes, it's basically a miracle for other people it's not linear in any capacity.

But I've now seen enough people work through this process for the first year.

A lot of trial and error, a lot of just getting like, how can I live my life to in each season to be more engaged with the light, to build exclusion zone water.

How do I earth and ground in the various seasons, you know, and takes a year to oftentimes tap into non native EMFs and what we can do to minimize or mitigate those.

And then the second time through, so there'll be some healing for sure.

Second time through.

Now there's more confidence, like, okay, now I know it's spring.

Now I know what I'm going to do with my building my, my solar tolerance on my skin.

All these things, right?

We go through it and then that third year, so there's, there's this evolution that happens that if people are willing to see stick with it.

Each year it gets better and better and better, but it sometimes does take a while to go through it.

And that's where it is helpful at first at least to have a clinician to be like, listen, what you're experiencing isn't weird.

Your body's not broken.

If your symptoms reappear, let's dive into that through these different lenses of what your body could be telling you.

And just know that if this is your first three weeks doing this or your first three months doing this, that your body is at the tip of the iceberg of getting its benefits.

Because the benefits just continue to add on to each other.

They compound each year.

Meredith Oke: Yes, it's a journey.

Carrie Bennett: Always everything.

Meredith Oke: It's not.

Not a destination.

We have mile.

You know, I think we have milestones on the way, but it's.

Yeah, it's all a journey.

I just.

I just had that happen this week.

I had a few days, like a week period where.

Just between world events and energy and where I'm at personally, I just.

I was.

I went very internal and really, like, backed off, doing a lot of work and doing a lot of stuff.

And on the final day of that, I got.

I was so sick.

Like, I.

I had like a raging headache.

I had chills.

I was nauseous.

And I'm like, I know I don't have the flu.

Like, I know I don't.

I know what that feels like.

And this isn't it.

And I had to sleep basically all day.

And yeah, I woke up the next day and I felt better than I had before it all started.

And I'm like, I don't know what.

Carrie Bennett: That was, but beautiful purging that your.

Meredith Oke: Body seems to be something what you're describing.

Carrie Bennett: Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

Meredith Oke: Thank you.

I love that.

All right, so as we wrap up, like, any.

Any last thoughts coming to you?

No, I mean, I think anything you want to share?

Carrie Bennett: I think we touched on a lot of great stuff here, and I think I just want to reemphasize that.

I have been great.

Grateful for finding quantum biology and diving into it because it did provide the necessary.

It and still is providing the necessary framework for me to live my life, for my health, for my mental health, my physical health, my emotional health, my spiritual health.

It's really providing a comprehensive framework.

And the one thing I love about this and teaching it to people who are willing to really engage with this information and apply it is that it's.

Like you said, it's not necessarily a quick fix.

It is a lifestyle, but it's a lifestyle that I don't hear people being like, oh, yeah, I'm not.

I'm gonna stop wearing my blue blockers.

Or, oh, yeah, I'm not gonna go out and get the sun anymore.

Or that morning walk.

Yeah, what a waste of my, like, it right so.

So it truly is nice to give people and teach people a framework that that is something that is.

It really, truly is life transformative because it gives me not just, I'm gonna try this latest fad.

It's like, no, I think I've really found things that my body is fundamentally asking for on a regular basis.

And so that's just really rewarding as a clinician, but just, it's kind of just empowering as a human as well, to be like, okay, I'm not searching for, like, the next.

What's the next product or the next hit supplement or whatever it is.

It's like my body is way more regulated, I think, because I've truly found a lifestyle that is.

That is both healing and once you heal, the body continues to thrive.

So.

Meredith Oke: Yes, yeah, it's how we're meant to be.

And so we're returning home.

We're not like, trying some new thing.

Thank you so much, Carrie.

As always, such a delight.

You can find Carrie on Instagram at Carrie B.

Wellness and on the Internet, carrieb.wellness.com and Carrie is also the lead faculty at the Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, which is a practitioner certified vacation.

So you, if your interest is piqued, do check that out.

That's at.

You can find everything@qbcpod.com Carrie, thank you so much.

Carrie Bennett: Thanks for having me.

Meredith Oke: I feel like we're just at the beginning.

Carrie Bennett: We'll do this again, right?

We'll do this again.

We'll check it in, like on this podcast again, like six months.

Be like, okay, now what has transpired that.

Bye.