
·E1846
DNA Interference | Dr. Jessica Rose (TPC #1,846)
Episode Transcript
One, and I thought, you're just flicking me off, and just right, that's that's how we're starting.
Okay, all right, my bad, all right.
Well, Thursday September twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, at eleven oh three am Eastern Time with doctor Jessica Rose.
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Yeh.
What we were just talking about is like, you know why it happens to me like about once a year where we're multiple things.
I realized it's like if you went into I don't know, it's like if you did like your dishes drunk and you're like, I normally don't put like the silverware there, and then you like found You're like and I normally don't put my clothes there.
You're like, yeah, that I was messed up, but I don't drink.
So it's like once a year something happens where multiple shows in a row they get like train wrecked or traffic jammed.
I don't know how, And it's and like you said, so what you were saying is do I completely forget no, because I actually pen I actually put people in the calendar before they even confirm, just because I would rather have that mistake, then wait for them to confirm and so there's no harm in a foul.
One day, I'm like, hey see you tomorrow.
We didn't agree on Then I'm like, all right, which makes all the more weird.
When this happens.
It's like I don't know, like dip my toe into a black hole or something, and it's all the It's not it's not daylight savings.
It's not.
It's just like all the wires get crossed and I never know why.
Speaker 2Yeah, right now too is when it happened to me.
Yeah, but but I forget.
It's like it's it's it's not a good thing to admit.
And of course you know it never happens with you or anyone else who's actually watching this.
I would never forget you.
Speaker 1Personally, I'm not talking about it.
Speaker 2It's like it's out of my brain.
It's like it never happened.
It's like I never penned it into Proton calendar.
It's it's very weird.
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1Maybe maybe it's not an accident.
Maybe it's like a default thing, like once a year, you're it's kind of when you're it's like restart the computer.
Maybe once a year, your brand's just like shakes all the shit out.
Speaker 2I don't know the day of atonement soon.
So there is something about this, you know, time of year for some people, Like it's it's the start of fall and kids are going back to school, and you know, there's all these these things that actually are changing.
Speaker 1So yeah, maybe, honestly, if this is the worst thing going on in my life, I have a pretty great life.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1That Like I fucked up a couple of zoom interviews like that, that's that's a I.
Speaker 2Have too many interviews.
Speaker 1Yeah, I always that's what I wanted to.
So so I appealed my YouTube band yesterday and I got banned on August twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, and I got it and that's why it was redinstated, which is like the most surreal thing because I never thought that would happen.
But my and this has we didn't plan on talking about this, but like my my first thoughts are like, they're only doing this because they're being pressured by Congress.
But there's two or three important points.
One, there was no legal pressure.
It was like a cultural approach, which I get.
I'm not stupid.
The same reason why you know, like asid JP Morgan doesn't actually care about gay people, but if you know, they're gonna make a pride prey because of their corporation.
They want money, and.
Speaker 2Very importantly, it's exactly like CDC recommendations, which we're not talking about merely enough.
There were no there's no like rule.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's a mandate recommendation doctor, but it's never it's like where, well, it's kind of like asking like the police officer, like am I being detained?
Forget everything else?
Forget do you have a warrant?
And so like.
So in terms of like that bedrock, there was no legal president that made YouTube a lot of people get.
I also understand that that's how most corporations, So I'm not trying to like, you know, oh my god about that.
I actually don't care if YouTube has a change of heart, and I don't care what the CEO of I don't know Delta things like, I don't care.
A second important point is there was no legal president set by the Biden administration that allowed them to do this.
So there's nothing on this back end in twenty twenty five saying you can no longer do this codified.
There was also nothing in the Biden administration that says you are now allowed to do this, So nothing set this off and nothing ended it.
What set it off was in World War One, the US had domestic propaganda, and then in nineteen nineteen we passed a lot said no more, you can't do domestic propaganda.
In nineteen forty one we waived it, like hey, you got to have you know, kill the jab to kill the Germans, and then at the end of nineteen forty five we said all right, no more domestic propaganda.
Or maybe it was nineteen forty eight Smith mund Act MUNDT that was repealed by Obama.
And I don't want to forget the president.
I don't want people oh forget it.
As part of the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, which is a yearly thing of the DoD, which is the sacred Cow, that is what allowed this.
So even though it didn't happen until twenty twenty one, that is what allowed it.
So there was nothing coming in from Biden that allowed it, and Trump's not doing anything that's disallowing it.
So really it's it's nine out of ten doctors recommend thing.
There's no framework.
Now I'm out of six dentists exactly, So like I'm psyched about it.
Speaker 2I'm you know about a six stentist.
Speaker 1Well that's so I'm going to upload it all to YouTube.
But I'm psyched about it just to grow the platform.
I mean YouTube is Rumbel has seventy eight million monthly active users.
YouTube has two point seven billion.
Like, I'm excited just from the trying to grow the show.
But I have no and I don't and this is kind of what I want to just because you and I always talk about whatever.
Is this is this like fact based caution or have I've been so demoralized by the last four years that when something good happens, I'm like, it's not good, They're gonna fuck me?
Like, is this is this a case of like me not being able to accept something good happening in my life?
Or should I you know, kind of keep my guard up.
Speaker 2Oh, keep your guard up all the time.
But like run with it, because I mean that's that's the attitude I'm hearing from most people.
It's like get what you can while you can run with it.
Yeah, don't don't you know, keep keep your eye on them.
You know.
Also, you know, take what you can get man, they took it.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's that's kind of my thoughts is pushing on YouTube groat as much as I can, and just like before I was banned, try to cross pollination between the two.
Hey go subscribe to rumble and if you're on Rumble, hey go subscribe to YouTube.
But yeah, I just I don't know.
I don't have like a concrete feeling of like we want.
I'm like, very it's.
Speaker 2Not quite like that yet.
I think.
I think we can't say that about anything at this point.
Like we're we're making We're making steps, though in the right direction.
I really believe that.
I don't think that we're we're ever going to uh defeat the big monster.
Speaker 1No, no, but.
Speaker 2We we don't have to.
All we have to do is keep doing what we're doing.
Like I'm reflecting on this all the time.
By the way, I want to talk about our new paper, the DNA paper.
It's very important for ooops for people to know about.
It's.
Uh, it's amazing to me when I reflect on where we are compared to where we could have been.
Uh uh, it's it's wild, Like even to look at the screen sometimes at the people who are standing behind the podiums, like making the announcements like on behalf of HHS like RFK, It's like, Wow, that's the real I could not have anticipated that, like five years ago.
Speaker 1I get that.
Still I try to intentionally look at that like once a week where I'll be like, just look at the same thing.
I'm like tweeting, I'm like, very but sorry for interrupting you.
But the way I look at it is is I take it as a lesson of like, hey, what you thought was impossible last year is not only here, but you've already accepted it as the norm.
So in the the alternative to black Pillion, I'm like, basically not to sound like a Hallmark card, but I'm like, don't be afraid to to like wish and to plan big, because it can happen.
Speaker 2It happened, So sorry, aim the biggest.
Put your bar as high as it can be.
Be, be like outrageous and use your bloody imaginations for christ sake.
Pardon your language, everyone, but like really, if not for the exercise of using your imagination, because it occurs to me that you know, among all the things that have been robbed from people over the last five years, the freedom to dream and imagine is something so important as human beings that has been really preyed on, I think is the best way to say it.
Yeah, speaking of censorship, I'll.
Speaker 1To you said, this is one of my old phone backgrounds.
Imagination is revolutionary.
Oppressive systems rely foremost upon convincing the oppressed that there is no alternative.
In a sense, it must sustained.
An ideological dogma, or belief in the possibility of change is seen as delusional and unlikely.
Freedom of thought must mean the freedom to challenge a dominant ideological consensus, which means like and then my other phone back, my current phone background.
If you're going to overthink all the time, at least overthink all the ways you could work at in your favor, the best case scenario and every version of your life that turns out way better than expected.
If you're going to overthink anyway, dared, Yeah, but yeah, hop onto the DNA paper.
Speaker 2Yeah, So I'll go backwards.
So it's a good segue because you're talking about YouTube and censorship and stuff.
So well, yeah, okay, I'll tell it chronologically in the way that it will make sense to censorship.
So we published a paper me and Ke Kevin McKernan and David Speaker published a paper I guess it's going on two weeks now.
Ago.
It got published to the journal Autoimmunity, and we definitively showed that there's DNA in the Pfizer and MODERNA viles that we tested in every single file that we tested, and it took us six tries, six journals.
In some of those cases we actually went through the peer review process and then it got rejected until we finally reached this journal where we got it peer reviewed and they accepted it for publication.
So it's already been through the washer now the moment it got uploaded and immortalized on PubMed and long before the vultures started circling trolls from pub Pierre, which we call pub smear because they're they're literally, uh, a conflicted paid organization, uh you know, made up of a bunch of people whose job it is to destroy good science and anything that goes somewhat anything that asks good questions.
I'm not even going to say goes against a narrative.
Any any piece of paper with a science backed story, with good methodologies that asks questions that might throw certain systems like big farmant chaos.
So anyway, we got the threatening email about a week after it was published from you know, the journal saying there's there have been complaints and we have to start an investigation.
And this is this is the preface to retraction.
Okay, I made I made a speech at this Brownstone Eguten a couple of weeks ago or a week ago, where I actually predicted before we got that email that this was going to happen because it's happened to me before, and I know that it's going to happen now because this paper's far more important than my mildcarditis paper.
Even so, yeah, now I wrote them back in nice email.
I said, listen, do you mind disclosing who the complaint about our paper came from?
And what the complaint was?
What?
What was it?
What was based on?
It was based on the methodology?
Was it based on?
What was based on?
And they were really nice.
They said, yeah, it came from pug Peer, from some pseudonym who's whining about vers the use of VIARS data.
And we even write a disclaimer in our paper showing like we know the limitations of using VARs.
That's why we didn't push to do like a dose response relationship curve, for example.
So anyway, as part of this nightmare that we've all been going through for the last five years, I'm hearing a lot of people asking the question, and this is coming up a lot lately, why are you still talking about that?
It's so over, the COVID thing is over.
Speaker 3And it's like, no, no, it's not even close to being over yourself, Like, especially for the people who suffered injuries, that's.
Speaker 2Not over for them.
It's crazy.
Not over.
For the people who got fired from their jobs, not over.
For the economy which got tanked, which is not to recover, not over.
You know, we could go on and on.
So this this playbook of retracting papers, which you know, probably more about than I do.
Like the retraction rate has just gone through the roof since twenty twenty.
It's a playbook.
It's like I can almost write a script telling people what to expect and when, like even a time frame if they publish something that threatens Big Pharmat for example.
So just to fill in some blanks on what we found, so we tested a bunch of Canadian vials of Pfiser Moderna in two different ways.
We quantified DNA.
This has been done before, by the way, and many labs all over the world.
This is reproduced work and they found the same trend.
So we took all of those papers, thoroughly read them, either duplicated their methodology and or added to it.
So we looked at this from every angle.
We as we were writing it and as we were doing the assays, we were like, okay, what more can we do here in anticipation of what somebody might say to, you know, try and rip us apart.
And yeah, we did everything.
We boiled prepped to the nps to break them open, to get proper access to the DNA.
We treated with RNAs to get rid of crosstalk between our le We did so many things.
Our methods is really clearly written down.
Anyone can reproduce what we did and for almost no money.
This is just PCR and florometry.
And in the case of every single vial it was thirty two vials, sixteen lots.
But we found limits that were over what the EMA limit of ten nanograms per dose indicates.
But this is this is not even the most disturbing thing.
That limit, that ten nine a gm perduse limit is based on naked DNA, not lipid nanoparticle encapsulated DNA.
So if you asked me, I would say that no amount of lipid nanoparticle encapsulated DNA is quote unquote safe.
Sure, and especially when you consider the fact this is probably the most important finding that one of the DNA fragments that we discovered was SP fourty and hence er promoter, which is a mammalian promoter, So it has no has no place in these vials.
It shouldn't be there, and it's functional as a nuclear localization sequence, so it's used in gene therapy.
It's actually used in on benches to talk to traffic shit to nucleus as nuclei sorry of cells, So it's a gene therapy tool and it's in the vials, so it's it's also it's disastrous from the point of view of cancer promotion because and by the way, this is all peer reviewed published stuff that I'm saying, you can look it up.
Look up P fifty three, n SV forty and hence or promoter promoter and hencer.
There's there's binding that goes on there, and you know, you don't need background to understand this.
Whoever's listening to this.
If you have a protein or molecule or a piece of DNA that's functional, that has a job, and you throw something exogynous like from the outside at that let's just call it a molecule, and you interfere with its normal behavior, functioning mechanism of action.
What do you think is going to happen At the very least, maybe nothing much, But depending on what you're talking about here, and in this case, we're talking about a tumor suppressor gene that's really important for suppressing tumors.
When you when you have binding events with with that guy, the guardian of the genome, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to anticipate that you're probably gonna have start having problems with cancer.
And it's really interesting that this matches what we're seeing in the clinical setting.
Like you know better than anyone, Like.
Speaker 1I was gonna say basic.
I mean, if you I know nothing about engines and automobiles, I know how to turn a key.
If you threw something that's not you know, a piece of paper, if you threw paper clips in an engine, best case, nothing's gonna happen.
Something's gonna happen, though anyone don't throw it in the gears, right, it's pretty sorry.
Speaker 2Keep going, No exactly, And I love the analogy because it's it's it's really good.
Actually, or you could think that most people were probably thinking with sugar in the engine or sold or send in the engine or something.
Speaker 1Like anything that is not part of the streamlined baseline, you know, whatever standardized process.
Speaker 2Yep.
And so instead of having your engine running properly, well it's kind of the same thing.
It's the anti cancer engine, or at least a component of it running properly, you're going to have an interference with that mechanism.
So at least that particular mechanism of action.
But like I said, P.
Fifty three is really important.
There's a whole bunch of other stuff too.
Speaker 1If fifty three come from exercise, doesn't it increase from exercise?
Speaker 2Uh?
I don't have to look that up.
Speaker 1I thought.
I remember reading a popular science literally like twenty years ago.
Is something like it was released or increased by anaerobic exercise.
Speaker 2I mean that makes sense.
Sorry, Sorry, it says it's complex.
Actually, it says P.
Fifty three perotine expression in skeletal muscle is reduced with endurance training.
But of activated P fifty three is increased in the trained state.
How interesting.
Hum, Okay, well, you know that just speaks to the EBB and flow of of all the various and sundry molecules, not just immunological ones, but the body.
And it's not just about expression, it's it's about methylation and all this stuff that.
Yeah, that, yeah, I could talk about, but it doesn't matter so importantly.
Even if we like just not not talk about SB forty or enhancer, which by the way, it wasn't disclosed.
It's it's in the plasmid that was used to produce the nucleoside modified mRNA, but it wasn't disclosed by the manufacturers, which is really really bad.
That's that's fraud.
So even if you take that out of the equation, there are billions of DNA fragments that we've detected in these vials.
And when you subject to cell to transfection by an LNP carrying foreign DNA of any kind, it doesn't even matter what it is, especially it tons tons billions of little tiny fragments, and you introduce those to the cytosol, which is naturally what's going to happen once they break out of the end zone that they get into from the introduction by the l NP, you're going to induce cancer pathways.
It's natural, it's a natural part of the response of the cell to become you know, for inflammatory pathways to get activated.
And also there's a particular one this is also published called the seagusting pathway, which I know nothing about, but it's it's a cancer pathway and it's induced by the introduction of foreign DNA into a cell.
So that that can't not be happening if the you know, if what we found, well, no, what we found is what we found, and if these the problem that we don't know the answer to is or the questions that we don't know the answers to.
And this goes also back to biodistribution and dose and the lies that we were all told is that we have no no idea and no real way to find out or quantify adults.
We don't know which cells get introduced, you know, with this genetic material biol and peace.
We know that they biodistribute, we know that they can go everywhere, but we don't know where they actually end up in the person.
And once those cells get introduced with those genetic components.
We don't actually know how much is in there.
We don't know how much mRNA, and we don't know how much DNA, and we don't know how many DNA hybrids A DNA R and A hybrids, So we can't anticipate the effect on that particular cell and on that subject matter.
We also can't anticipate whether or not integration is going to be a problem.
So it's like we're at this crossroads now where they have to admit, because you can't deny something that's published with the methodology as strong as ours.
They have to admit that this is a problem now.
And once we acknowledge jah as a bunch of humans who care about each other, that this is a problem, we can try I don't know how, but we can try to start to fix the problem because I don't know, man, it's it's it's it's such an overwhelming salt, you know what I mean, Like, how do we how do we start unraveling the potential cancer, Yeah, existential crisis that we've created.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, no, and it's a it's and I don't know if this wholes but I remember saying this with doctor McCole years ago, probably before I was banned, was a it, you know, like classification or something, you know, who killed Kennedy or whatever, Like things can get burned.
That's the thing about like human events is that you can you know, the law of the conservation of matter that doesn't exist with like knowledge, like you can just burn it and it's gone if known has a copy.
It's a fascinating thing.
You can't do it with with science, Like China can go to the moon right now and find footprints and be like, well fucking a you know, like and there's a certain beauty to that in that it doesn't need to be defended.
And it makes me think of I don't know how much of what I know about this is factual and how much it's just from the HBO series, but it makes me think of Chernobyl to where Soviet Union, I mean, you know, clamp down on scent.
They can do whatever.
They send the secret police, they cut phone lines, they'll fucking kill you and your family like they did a They can do a pretty bang up job at keeping something quiet.
But with Chernobyl's release of strontium ninety, I think radioactive calcium and then all the other plutonium uranium, polonium, and as it kind of drifted out to other cities in the Soviet Union, they would they could still shut it down there.
You know, you didn't see people dying.
If they are dying its natural causes or whatever.
They did a pretty good job.
But eventually those clouds started to go to Europe or over like the Pacific Ocean, and then countries that were not out of the control of the Soviet Union.
We're like, hey, what the fuck is this?
This is not backward, this is like eighty thousand million times more than background.
My point is is that is self evident, physical based truth, where eventually I think you have the you know, I think the US might have even reached out to him and like do you need help with this?
Because this is going to fucking kill all of us.
But my point is is that's something you can't hide.
And at the time, it can seem like truth will never get out.
It's the Soviet Union.
It's still clamp down on everything, okay, and you can for a while, you can do a pretty good job.
I've always felt that whatever it is that's happening, planned or not, accident or not, whatever whatever it is, that's whatever was thrown into the engine.
Whether it makes it better.
Maybe you discovered nitrous, maybe it makes it worse.
Whatever happened will eventually be self evident, and it might take and that's not always you know, that's not always inspiring.
It's like, well, how long did it take for China?
Well we went in nineteen sixty nine, and you know, so I don't know sixty years later.
It's like, well that that doesn't make me feel better.
But that's kind of the concrete part of self evident physical truth is it just is I can't help and you could even let's let's pick apart the moon analogy.
Yeah, full conspiracy.
A America could send up I don't know, a rocket that drops boots to whatever.
Okay, not sure knowable where.
It's a trillion quintillion google plex raised to the google plex atoms the same thing.
Here.
We're talking about DNA contamination and alteration in most of the human genome.
Seventy trillion seals times eight billion people.
My point of all of that is, my optimism is that the truth is will be so physically self evident that we will be able to find out what happened.
The important part is is this isn't the moon.
We can't wait for it to find out and then go told you so people we all know and love, got this.
We have to act on it now.
And you can't be focused on the as seductive as it is.
He can't be focused on the slam dunk who told you?
That's not what someone needs to hear if they're in their thirties and they have a percent and rant but yeah.
Speaker 2No, no, excellent rant, and you're you're exactly right.
I mean when you look around, like you know, every time I talk to someone, I hear about someone with cancer.
Yesterday it was a nine year old little girl with leukemia.
Jeez, you know it's like it's okay, wait is that normal?
Like what was it like when I was young?
Like I know that there was like every now and then a sporadic case of someone having answer.
But now it's like something is different, and it's different from a certain time point, and you have to and I want to go further on what your point was.
There has to come a time, and I really think that now is the time because we're also facing a potential exisdential crisis with AI coming when the humans as a species have to bend together and throw away the bullshit throw away, the politics throw away, the money throw away, the fame throw away, all this stupid geopolitical crap, and come together as a species and realize, like, listen, we really screwed ourselves on this one.
Whether it was a mistake and they grab the wrong plasmid or whether it was intentional, it doesn't matter because, like you said, we're not really going to find out exactly what happened for a while, at least a long time, like at least a few years, because like I said, we need to acknowledge the problem.
The people who did this need to acknowledge the problem.
I think accountability is another thing that a lot of people are gonna want, but most importantly, we need to freaking come up with a way to fix this.
And the first part of fixing it is to stop doing it, you know.
And this is why we're trying to get rid of the platform, because clearly good manufacturing practices are not just they're not the only problem here.
They're a problem, but the LNPs are a problem all on their own.
This isn't just this magical plug and play thing that they're trying to push.
What I mean by that is this LNP, you know, nucleotide wrapped fat bubble and you can just swap out whatever you want, you know, like for the magic vaccine bullet against flu or corona viruses or whatever.
Like.
No, no, So, I really really really think it's time for us to like get our shit together as a species and like stop screwing ourselves over first of all, and really start looking at this as the massive, potentially existential crisis that it is.
Because I'm sorry, I don't think cancer like running amuck in small children being common is okay.
I don't think it's right.
I think it shows a horrible imbalance in life and living.
Obviously, we weren't born into you know, or evolved or whatever you want to believe, into this ecosystem, you know, with an inherent you know, requirement to become tumors by the time we're ten.
No, something's wrong, something is off.
And you know, I think that these I think that these shots, with these things that we found in them, the DNA and the SB forties, I think it's just propelling everything.
I think the problem already existed.
I think that these are just pushing everything.
And maybe it's a mixed blessing in disguise because or I don't know, maybe that's going a bit too far, but maybe this is what we need to kind of shake people up to say, listen, you know, we've gone way too far with these industries, food industries, ladder industries, vaccine industry, you know, school, the education system is an industry.
I mean, we've gone too far.
Man, We need to we need to pull it back and come back to what it means to be humans and part of being human because we have these immunological you know systems is living pretty long lives without being sick all the time, quite frankly.
Speaker 1Right, and more importantly of you know, whether it's a good thing or not, or this is a blessing in disguise or not, or regardless, And I tend to, no matter what, try to find the optimism and things simply because I'll go insane if I don't.
Regardless of any of that, it happened, and it's like we got to deal with it.
I don't care.
You know, the Titanic deck is shifting, and it's like do we hit Iceberg and probably have some version of me or be like, no, there was a bomb.
It's a conspiracy.
But say, hey, man, regardless, it's like it's nineteen twelve, We're in the middle of the Atlantic, we don't have cell phones, it's tipping and the water's going to kill us.
All we can find out if it was the ship manufacturer or if it was negligence.
But at the angle is getting steeper.
Yeah, I deal with it now.
You just have to, you know, you have.
If you're stuck in the World Trade Center it's on fire, you're probably not too concerned about whether it's been Lauden or somehow related to sit On or whether it was Santa Claus.
You gotta get a fuck out of that thing.
You gotta get away from it as fast as possible.
Exactly, I already won.
And that's kind of how I look at this.
Is like it is.
You do have to find out who did it.
You do have to find out why it happened.
You do have to punish that.
You do have to bulp that.
But first because it's and there's an important part in that, and it's this isn't something like you know, lead paint or asbestos or you know, Lucky Strike cigarettes.
This isn't something where you go, hey, you should all stop that and then we stop it and those people, unfortunately will probably die of that, you know, the as best as generation, my generation will probably be like the microplastic generation whatever, and then it you know, kind of it's a self deleterious that dies out and the new the new generations like, yeah, don't do that, that's bad for you.
And that's just kind of human history, right.
This is different in that it seems to be in the blueprint for humanity now, which it now it's in the copier machine.
Speaker 2It could be, it could be.
Yeah, yeah, that's what we need to find out because if this becomes a generational problem, which it could, because if integration happens in Germali cells, woof, there you go, at least for some people.
And I'm not going to say this is, you know, happening.
Speaker 1In every one and I have no idea, but it's a very important possibility.
Speaker 2Yeah, and if it is, if it does realize this possibility, this action, that's that that does mean that your genome is screwed effectively, because this spike shit, the or the the off target proteins, or the genetic code that was integrated, whatever it is, whatever got integrated is harmful.
I mean, if you have, if you have the coating material for an amyloid protein, I don't even want to think.
I don't even know if I can think about it, because it's like what maybe I will think about that later though, because I would like to finish that thought.
I haven't gone down that trail.
But like it's it's just what a disaster that would be.
And I mean the only thing, Like again, I just reiterate, we have to acknowledge the problem exactly like you said, is the perfect examples like or analogies, like first, we have to deal with this.
People will be held to account once we figure out what happened.
We already know what happened, but we need to We need to solve this problem before it gets out of hand.
Like stop first, people stop, they need to stop injecting themselves with this crap.
I mean, yesterday I was hearing conversations about people whose loved ones are going for shot ten and I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1What does?
Speaker 2What school did you go to?
What immunology courses did you do that taught you that that was something you should do.
I don't even know how to phrase it properly, like inoculation immunization is a beautiful idea conceptually, but it requires one shot with an attenuated pathogen or proteins, something solid, not genetic material, that your body recognizes this foreign And that's because we have secondary responses that can mount responds to the challenge with the real pathogen later.
It's a gorgeous thing because you don't get sick from the inoculation and then you don't get sick or die from the pathogen.
Beautiful.
This whole booster shit, I actually kind of used to believe in that.
It's like, yeah, maybe maybe you should after twenty years spike your you know, CDA back into whatever, and maybe there is some validity to that, But I think the whole thing at this point, after learning what I've learned, is probably a skim in most cases, especially if you're talking about three shots, like the you know, everyone's told they need to get a tetanus booster every five years or three years, or ten years or twenty years, depending on where you are in the world, and it's like, what is it?
Can anyone defend why you need to get a tetanis booster at all?
Can anyone defend why the timing is really backwards when they actually tell you need to get a booster after you've been introduced potentially.
Speaker 1To I got it.
I actually got a tetanis booster during the pandemic in twenty twenty one because I was putting laundry away.
I had these like metal wire things in the wall of the apartment or whatever, and I like sliced my fore arm.
Not bad, but its deep enough that I was bleeding.
And I was like, I think because it is like those it's like those metal shelves are kind of like rubber it over and there was an edge that was rusty as fuck, and I was just like, that can't be good.
So I went and did that.
So I don't know, that's like my ass trisk Like if you visibly slice your arm when not a little scrabe, a big one bleeding and the edge is very clearly like orange and red and brown.
Speaker 2I was like, you know what I learned recently, Tobby, because I also had, uh, you know, I ripped my hand open, and so like, first of all, when you're talking about rusty nails, that whole story with tetanus is bullshit.
You need introduction to like pathogens that come from poop like animal poop, so it's unlikely that you were exposed.
I also learned brand new information when this happened to me that if your wound is uh like visibly bleeding, there's probably no way for the bacteria the technique get in because it's yeah, because it's good.
They're anaerobic, so the oxygen will kill them.
There's all these things I didn't know, and and I'm like, wow, it's all part of the plan to not only make money per shot, but just keep people injected and ejected.
And you have to do this to be healthy.
The equivalizing, if that's a word, the equivalentizing, I like that better of injecting you with something with health is so insidious.
It's it's so backwards like, and it's not just my opinion, it's a fact.
It actually is to your detriment.
And this COVID shot context because we know now also because of peer of view studies, that if you multiply inject an antigen, you know, non sterilizing immunity occurs, you actually developed tolarizing antibodies.
So it's like, when you become exposed to the challenge pathogen, your immune system is just going to put its hands up in the air and go, I'm not going to do anything about that, and you're gonna get really sick.
And all the stuff that's gonna happen from the introduction to the spike protein and all the other proteins and the immunological response from other you know arms, it's it's gonna it's gonna throw you into haywire.
It's it's so backwards, I can't even like, I can't even It's it's like, what are you doing?
People?
Stop injecting yourselves.
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1I think, unfortunately, what it's probably going to be will be irrefutable death, because right now you can style you're a dumb lived tard and you're a conservatid, and that gets some of the people I know that are like my age.
I know when you have had on the show, it's like you in a wheelchair, like those people don't need to be.
But how are you going to convince most?
I think it's probably gonna have to reach a point where it probably even the most brainwashed people can no longer.
And I don't mean I don't mean that draw.
I'm sure I'm brainwashed ways that I'm unaware of I think the only yea, yeah, I think the only way you're going to kind of pierce that is when it's not like a one in a million, but it's like that are like ten people that have dropped dead in the last year.
I think some people are going to have that creeping and unfortunately I think that's and I could I mean with research.
I mean, you know again, kind of look at you know, hell freezing over.
It's like, yeah, there's like rfks there.
You're like, well, that's out doubt.
I never thought that was going to happen.
It could happen, I am.
I am optimistic that it very well could happen.
But if that doesn't happen, the sort of Chernobyl thing will be it just won't be deniable, and anyone that would deny it would have no interest in denying it because they're concerned about their wife or daughter or husband or mom.
Speaker 2Or even pocket book or.
Speaker 1Pocketbook or themselves or whatever.
I think that's that will be the that's the one that cannot be ignored.
That's the Chernobyl's the footprints on the moon.
Hopefully we can get after it before then.
Speaker 2But so an inspiring thing on what you just said that people might want to watch to kind of like for me, it's a needle moving moment.
Like I spoke at the Massachusetts State House the other day.
I was lucky to be invited to have five minutes, and it was it was for the injured people and for the people who got laid off from their jobs.
They came to give personal testimonies.
And it's on YouTube.
I posted it on my substock so you can watch it.
It's absolutely stunning these people's personal stories, not just the injured people, the people with like in all these institutions that we know about, like the DMV and in this hospital, in that place, and they all just got fired outright, there's no hiding it because they didn't want to take the shop and it was mandated in their workplace.
They just got fired after like decades of service friends, you know, like you make friends at your workplace after a long time like that.
Some of them reached the highest position and they still got fired because their credentials were quote unquote arssessed.
It wasn't it couldn't be legal anyway.
The media was there in Dropes, which was I think one of the first times that that much media showed up for one of these, because it's really only a handful of people.
At one point I counted and there were twenty five people, and I almost cried because I'm like, how can there only be twenty five people in this room?
Yeah, sorry, it's like anyway, so everybody should watch that thing.
And in my substack, I also post two news agency the reports on it, and it wasn't what I was expecting.
I was kind of expecting a little bit more smeariness, like you know, like saying crap about people being a yeah, but actually what they did they actually covered one of the testifier stories and they were quite what would be the word fair, I think is the right word.
And so and this is Massachusetts, so I'm new to all this, but apparently, you know there, there's there's a lot of maintained backwards thinking here.
You know, there's a lot of mandates, there's a lot of you know, they're going for not allowing exemptions, like not even religious exemptions.
So yeah, anyway, there's a lot of work to do here.
Apparently here's my cat.
He always wants to say, I know, yep.
So anyway, yeah, everybody should watch that for a little bit of a reality check, but hope because the fact that we're even able to have these gatherings and in these beautiful buildings is uh is great.
It shows Uh, it is so cute.
It shows Uh these mummy's guy, you're so distracting.
I lost my thought.
Speaker 1Uh, we do have to wrap it up because I have to do other ship.
But I was gonna say, completely unrelated to everything, is uh yeah.
Or whenever we spoke last week and you're like, hey, I'm going to meet like a friend or something on a bridge, my first thought was like Jason Bourne or something where it's like there's always some like a drop, or if you're going out there, you getting framed like an assassine.
Speaker 2It was my buddy.
I never saw.
Speaker 1No, I didn't explain any of that context.
I didn't explain any of that context to you.
I just texted you in response, you're gonna get assassinated.
Oh and then like and then like put my phone down or something for twelve hours and you were like what the fuck?
So like, I don't know, just as a light.
Speaker 2I thought you meant I was gonna get like, you know, something happening to me in uh, in my travels through Boston because I'm an anti naxer or whatever.
Speaker 1I know.
I I I placed it in context of something then explained nothing, and so I'm on a lighter note.
You know that was kind of funny.
He was like, what the fun You're gonna get killed and then turn to bed.
Speaker 2But yeah, my friend never showed up, by the way, she got stuck in traffic or in a parking garage or something, and so yeah, I ended up not getting assassinated.
Speaker 1The the ia my theory holds.
But we have to have all right, fair enough for everybody listening a description, please go find our Twitter and substack.
But yeah, no, it's I think with what you said is important.
Look back at a year ago, and then look where we are now, and look how surreal that is.
And then don't stop there, extrapolate, be like what this is?
How whenever I try to, like, you know, imagine something like better, I have like incremental imaginations, But every once in a while I'll remind myself, like your imagination should scare you, and not in a bad way.
You should look at something that's so good that it frightens you.
And that's how I try to imagine, is like, what is something so good it actually like intimidates me.
I think that's kind of an important thing, whether it's imagination or meditation or prayer or just something to work towards.
I would say that's what I always do, is if it's not if it's not frightening you a little bit, then you're not you're not dreaming big enough.
So on that note, uh, we'll wrap it up by giddy, doctor Rose, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2You're welcome.
I think he's looking at me like he wants to take a chump.
Speaker 1Well, he's very upset with you.
His plan, his plan to kill you didn't work.
Speaker 2Well, No, he's upset with me because I'm not paying full attention to him.
Speaker 1I totally get it.
This will be up tomorrow.
I'll text to you again.
Guys, everybody in the description policill fall on Twitter, piecle fall on subsect, Doctor Rose, thank you so much.
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