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EU v USA pt. 2 | Tom Luongo, Alex Krainer, EM Burlingame (TPC #1,935)
Episode Transcript
And we are recording on Sunday, January eleventh, twenty twenty six, at one or four pm Eastern Time, with mister Tom Loongo, Iam Burling and Alex Grander.
You guys can go into the description and links to everything, and I'll just continue the conversation from where we just were about Alex is going to leave early and either jerk off on a chicken or in a chicken.
So that's I hope everyone's having a wonderful Sunday.
And Alex, I want you to know you can do it on the show too.
I'm very inclusive.
Speaker 2I feel it would be a little bit inappropriate, so maybe not.
Speaker 3Yeah, I just goes so against my English sensibilities.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know if that's limited to one group of sensibilities.
Really fucking chicken on camera?
I guess week I don't know.
Speaker 4I mean, you know, what the fuck is wrong with German people?
Speaker 2Right?
That's also well, you know it's been done on CNN, hasn't it?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 4Yeah, remember the Jeff whatever his name was, like, you know, jerking off on the zoom call.
Speaker 1Oh I fucking a chicken?
Yeah, dude, that would be crazy that that is not the same he was growing.
Speaker 3He was growing hair where it shouldn't be.
But we got to get this conversation.
Speaker 1Going, yeah, because we have a little bit amount of time without so kind of what I both I saw from both you Em and Tom last night kind of about you know, as always, we've talked about all these actions.
Reactions are how you draw things out.
And I think Tom said it that the reason why this also exploded in LA is they have to do it all at once because if they do it one at a time, they're going to get picked off.
And I think EM was saying like, hey, just watch it.
You're you're seeing and I know Mike Shelby said it like you're seeing whatever amount of resistance quote unquote is left, and that can be you know, legal bills, bussing, matching.
Anyone with any graphic designing anything understands that you get all these signs the same days somebody printed that.
It's just just what it is, and especially when it's in a different city all that don't.
I don't think it's rocket science or conspiratorial to say those are funded, there's organization.
It's just what it is.
And Em, as always, you said it's being drawn out, and I think, as Tom pointed out, they have to go.
They got it because one group went Leroy Jenkins, so now the other ones have to do you feel that way, em, I don't.
Speaker 3Actually in this case, we have to be careful with LA.
It's a unique outlier because that's Karen Bash.
She's a known CIA Color Revolution expert.
Is the mayor there.
What I suspect is going on here, Now there may be some of that and maybe Genesis, but my suspicion is this is to try and distract the American regime, Trump and and academy away from what's actually happening on the ground in eater On, because if we look, that's all a sigh of the whole everything is everything that's coming out of there's an information war.
It's all tail dog wagging stuff.
And if they were going to get you know, the British and French, we're going to get their guy in there, they would need us to take the eye off the ball.
Because don't think for a second that while we're not maybe actively maybe we are even actively on the ground, we aren't doing all kinds of things to try and minimize whatever chaos, destruction, damage happens in eat On.
And very much to what Tom was saying.
There's four or five main factions fighting it out there, but the only the only one that you know, really matters is the British French fucking one.
So I suspect it's a deflection to you know, something kicked off in Minnesota that was organic, that just that was that was an organic thing.
I was going to ask that was organic, that's organic.
LA is probably organic to that, because they're all retarded and stupid and et cetera.
But I suspect the LA one specifically was let's try and deflect the administration, the intelligence and everything else away from paying closed attention and having all that cognitive capacity to ensure that Iran doesn't go, you know, yet again into the bad guy's hands.
Speaker 1Uh, you're saying, okay, I thought you were saying that Trump administration was letting this run to no one pays attention to them and IRN.
You're saying, the powers that are fucking around in Iran are going, hey, let's stoke this thing.
Speaker 3Keep that there are two They're they're succeeding too much keeping this from right because what's needed in Iran right now is some actual death count.
Yeah, some no shit verifiable death counts.
Now they could be totally false flagged and all of that.
Like we're seeing we're seeing right now body bags and you know on except for the bodies and moving in the bags.
Speaker 1Yeah, we've seen that before, the COVID kind of the usual Alex I want to make sure we get out here.
We have a limit them out with.
Speaker 2Him a few things, you know.
I thought it was very interested in back in the sun.
The day when Trump bombed Iran, it didn't seem first of all, it didn't seem real to me in the sense that, yes, he did bomb them, but it was a one day polite action, pre announced forty eight hours in advance, telling the Iranians we're gonna bomb here and here remove you know, delicate things, so no casualties or very close to no casualties.
And then he immediately declared that they obliterated the nuclear program.
And Trump insisted on using the world word obliterated, and he kind of coerced Natanyahu himself to go along with it.
Why is this important.
It's important because it tells me that Trump doesn't want a regime change in Iran.
Why because the Iran's nuclear program was the pretext was the justification for going to war against Iran.
If you obliterate the justification, then you can't go to war against Iran anymore, because how are you going to justify it?
You know, nuclear program is no longer.
And you know, like we in Europe, unlike you uncouth Americans, we're fine people.
We we have our values.
We respect mm wait, democracy, freedom and human rights.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, I know my value, don't I know?
Speaker 1And and and and the ability to okay.
Speaker 2And yeah, so I know that's gonna sound alien to you all there, but you know, I don't uh anyway, you know.
And so you know, once you've once you've taken out the nuclear program, then you can't go regime changing because the public won't accept it.
Public might accept taking out the nuclear program because you know, we've been brainwashed for years, for decades about how horribly dangerous the Iranians are, and so if they had a nuke, obviously they would kill everybody else obviously, you know.
And so that the way that whole thing played out tells me that Trump doesn't want a regime change in Venezuela.
And then you know there's another thing.
Speaker 3No, sorry, either one, either one yeah.
Speaker 2But then yeah, there you go.
Because then today I was I was doing some research on Venezuela, and I happen on something that makes me suspect that not only did Trump not want a regime change in Venezuela, that the whole action there was to pre empt a regime change in Venezuela.
Here's why.
In after Venezuela's last elections, which were I think twenty eight July twenty twenty four, all of the Europeans went, oh, Venezuela bad, Maduro bad.
No, you know, freedom and democracy doesn't work there.
It's offending our values.
It's an outrage up with which we shall not put.
So the G seven, which at the time was still Joe Biden and Sullivan and Blincoln and all these people, all these fine, fine people, they put out a statement in which they said, they pretty much said that the elections were illegitimate, that there's you know, democratic, how do you call it deficit?
And blah blah blah and on and on.
So it looked like they were already putting their crosshairs on Venezuela the globalists, right, not Trump, the globalists.
And then you know, when they gave Machado the Nobel Peace Prize.
I was convinced that that wasn't Trump.
You know, it wasn't Trump who put a squeeze on the Noble Committee to give the how do you call it, the Nobel Peace Prize to Mariac Courna Machado.
It was them.
It was the globalist It was the same people who had g seven say, you know, Venezuela bad and no democracy.
And so what does Trump do?
He he gets he gets Maduro out, but not only leaves Delsi Rodriguez in power.
He kind of not he kind of he approves that she should be taking over.
Speaker 1And so.
Speaker 2It seems to me that he preempted that thing happening.
And it then reconfirms my suspicion that that whole you know, removal of Maduro was a deal.
It was pre arranged.
Two three weeks before that happened, Trump was talking to the press and he was saying, we're very close to a deal.
And about the same time Maduro gave gave a statement in which he was saying that, oh, yeah, you know, I've been on the phone with Trump.
We had, you know, like a long, good conversation, and he said it was very friendly and respectful.
That's what Maduro said.
So then what was the deal?
And then you know the fact that the Chinese were there hours before Maduro was extracted.
You know, that was interpreted as a snob, as an affront to the Chinese.
You know, they're losing face.
They were, But I wonder what if because I one hundred percent convinced that the Russians are in the loop on these deals.
The Russians know perfectly what Trump is doing.
But now I'm suspecting that the Chinese do as well, and that they went to Caracas for some reason that had to do with Maduro's abduction.
Yes, and that the attack is exactly against this global is because you know National Securities Strategy twenty five Trump's Trump people say, we're going to be dismantling the infrastructure of our enemies in our hemisphere.
Well, you know, they if they regime changed Venezuela, maybe that's that would be their beachhead against the United States from the south, in the same way that Canada is the beachhead from the north.
And so by preempting their regime change, he took that card away from them.
Anyway, So then when I listened to Scott Besson's statements and Trump statements and Marco Rubio's statements.
They're talking exactly about this.
I mean, they're not laying it out, but Scott Bessant is exactly talking about dismantling their infrastructure, and he's not talking about China or Russia, talking about the fuckers in Davos.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, and sitting alone the Brussels and Sate London.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, forget Davos, Brussels.
Speaker 4Gay Patton is is is on it in the in the the financial market.
So that's my that's my new nickname for Scott.
He's big gay patent.
Like, seriously, that guy is not.
That guy is not fucking around and him coming out and saying that we're going to do we're taking out all their funding networks directly.
You know, here in Minnesota, we're broken at all of it.
And you know, we're mapping and I remember we're and we're mapping all of the accounts and we're mapping all the way all this goes.
And I'm like, that's what's been going on behind the scenes, and we you know, we've talked about this.
I know we've all talked about this together.
Separately and and maybe at times together that you know, go back and look at what they what happened in la that last January and then and then in June and everything else.
They were using those opportunities to field test whether or not they could nationalize the state Guard, right, whether or not they could whether or not the American people would be okay with them sending in the Marines right.
And at the same time they get all this lovely information about where all the validating their methods for tracing the money.
I think that would be the best way of putting that.
And then they've just been doing that over and over and over again.
And so what I find really interesting about what's happening now.
And you know, yeah, and I can disagree about what we think is happening in Minnesota and California, but I know two things.
One Minnesota, Minnesota's you know, they don't they're not deterred by the cold.
These people live in it all day long.
So getting real protesters out in the cold in Minnesota makes sense.
California seventy five degrees all year round, right, so you're not seeing anything in New York, You're not seeing anything in windy, wet and nasty Chicago, right, you're not seeing anything, you know, So getting protesters out in the middle of the winter is very, very difficult because it's just cold, windy, wet and nasty.
Maybe you can get them out of there for an hour or two and you gotta pay them twenty bucks an hour or twenty five bucks an hour.
But no, So I think in some ways the that Trump and company were pushing the pace in Minnesota on purpose in order to push them onto the streets.
And all we needed was the powder cake, you know, and we get this, and we get this, this this crazy lesbian to do, you know, a really dumb and tragic set, right, and now they have their they have their George Floyd moment.
They have to go.
They've already they've already established the precedent that they go to war over things like this.
And we've got we're ten days away from Trump going to Davos and you know, bringing three bags of flaming poop to shoot, you know, to skeet, shoot over the audience and all of it.
So when you when you put it all together, Alex, you're completely correct, right, the m the analysis is correct.
They are not interested and necessarily in regime change.
They're interested in dismantling the networks.
And that's why Greenlands is so important.
That's why the Germans and the and the UK and the French all on as today they're going to send troops to Greenland to keep Donald Trump from invading when Donald Trump is gonna buy these people, right, you know, this is gonna buy them off, like, and the truth is that even even then, what are these people going to do.
We were joking about it last night.
I was chatting with some of my friends and we were joking about it.
Oh my god, the Germans are sending two boats to two ships to to green Line, Like do they even have two ships?
Like it raise out that the Germans have sixty five but that's a.
Speaker 3You know, they raised the Bismarck or something.
Speaker 4But this turns out that, like, you know, at the end of the day, I thought, I'm sorry, I think it's okay.
It only has two ships left, two carriers, which is static.
But this is what we're dealing with now.
So now they're going to move to banning Twitter X.
They're going to fortify Greenland.
And the truth is that, you know, Mark Karney is who's really in the Cross, theirs and even Claudia shimebound right, she's been signaling quite clearly that she's not a free actor.
So it validates the model that we were talking about.
Maduro not a free actor.
I had told her how many not necessarily a free actor.
But he's the guy we're all supposed to hate.
I'm saying he's a good guy, not saying Duro is a good guy.
I'm saying Shinebown is a good woman.
But you know, they're the people that you're supposed to that we're They're the figureheads for all this, in the same way that Donald Trump's the figurehead for everything you hate about America.
Speaker 3If you're you know, if you want to how do you retain power?
You change out regimes every once in a while.
This goes right back to Praetorium guard people just study Rome, right, same model, same fucking people.
What do you do well?
Every once in a while you change out an unpopular emperor and a regime.
His security never changes though, security guards, security teams, the in house security never changes.
Speaker 2I just want to throw it something out there because I, you know, to try don't understand what what the hell is going on?
I spent a lot of time in the last week listening to the pro globalist people, you know, British.
Speaker 4Sorry, thank you for doing that with that, Thank you for your service, dude, because I can't do it.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I had to keep my vomit bucket on hands a lot.
But it's you know, it's very it's actually very interesting.
Well a, they have no idea what's going on?
Okay, so there's no there's no answer.
They know that they hate Trump, the the oozing contempt for the Americans, that they cannot hold it back.
And and there's you know, the one thing that keeps coming out, but it's not a talking point, it just comes out.
They're very worried that if Trump can do this in Venezuela, well then that's a signal to the Russians that they can do it in Ukraine and the Chinese that they can do it in Taiwan.
So that almost involuntarily comes out almost in every conversation.
And then the thing that I would like to propose here and wider is that we we stop even talking about whether somebody is a good guy or not.
Because I hear a lot of time everybody said like, well, you know, bla Maduro blah blah blah, not that he's a good guy who gives a fuck whether he's a good guy or not.
Honestly, shah, what's it called?
Coming a?
Is he good?
Because on this in this British podcasts and interviews on on on Times Radio and GiB news and.
Speaker 6All, they're always like, oh, well he's a very very bad person.
Oh he's this one is a very bad actor.
And you know it's like we're always obsessed about somebody not being good or being bad, and so you know, they they're creating this idea that for taking somebody down it's okay because that it's a bad that that person is a bad actor.
Speaker 3You know, like an estrogenic argument.
It has nothing to do with anything about competence, has nothing to do anything to do.
Speaker 2With anything because they will they have no problem supporting Paul Pott.
They have no problems supporting yeah exactly.
But they they're always always obsessively talking about good actors bad actors, and you know, like Maduro is bad, so he has to go, and Saddam is bad and he has to go and get off his bad and he has to go and estrogen so they are, you know, like they're the arbiters of whose worth.
Speaker 3That's estrogen.
Estrogen thinks in group, out group.
That's how it signs associate.
It's the whole world, right.
Speaker 2You know, like just to to torpedo that completely.
Now you mentioned whether somebody is a good guy or a bad guy, because what what?
How is it relevant?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 2Like who's a good guy?
Who's a good guy?
Speaker 4Right?
Speaker 2Jake Sullivan is a good guy, Anthony Blincoln is a good guy.
Speaker 3Victoria Newlands and Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 2Hillary Clinton, But they never mentioned them.
They only mentioned the guys that they actually want to get rid of.
And then of course Maria, she's wonderful, wonderful, and they're hysterical, that Trump dister, they're hysterical.
Speaker 1Well, I was gonna say, and then I'll let you say one it It seems more like it's it's about getting consent from your base that agrees with you anyway, you're kind of rubber stamping it and going it's okay.
And more importantly, though about good guy or bad guy?
Do you think you emp are here here?
Th was like, well, at least I respect trum And no, it was it was an a bomb gives a ship.
I respect the SWAT team, so I'm gonna come out.
Speaker 4They have got Alex said, if that, the rand is absolutely spot on.
And you know, sometimes we in the space that we occupy, right that we in particular these men that are talking right now occupy, you know, just every once in a while to reminder me, I don't think it.
I just I think it's actually that doesn't hurt to just say, look, I'm not I don't get the fuck and the fact I'm saying he's not a good guy or bad guy by saying I really don't care about that.
What I care about is his geopolitical importance and that and the and the and and that thereby, So I'm not absolving, you know.
So it was as people start to like tune out and say, oh my god, you're just you know, being a shill for this thing, or evening a shuld for like, No, I'm not, I'm just like I'm trying to get rid of all the the emotional ship so that we can get to the hardcore analysis.
And that's what's important.
And it's see your point as well, Alex, I'm.
Speaker 3Not in any totally agreement.
We didn't put these people on the world stage.
But they're on the world stage, so we have to fucking deal with them.
It's as people on the world stage.
Doesn't matter good, bad, or indifferent.
They're on that stage.
So okay, you're the actors.
I've got to deal with you in the play.
Speaker 4And more importantly, they all have incentives, and they all have structures, and they all have factions and everything else.
And yes, exactly, And what's so very important is that we stop looking at everything, all of these places as monoliths, right and exactly.
And it's really very important because I'm thinking about this, you know, as they move to try and ban X.
The reason they're trying to ban X in the Commonwealth and the probably the EU as well, is because they want to control the narrative of what these people in those countries see.
I've been talking to people in Europe, and I know, alf you're in Europe, but you know, I talk to people all the time because they have a lot of fans in Europe.
They're like, dude, if you read, if you watch the news here, it's all the United States is about to fall apart.
You see all these these European accounts on Twitter.
They say the same damn thing, and it's like and it's part of the process.
And like in the same way that we probably overhear overreacted to the yellow vests or to this or to that or what or Tom's point about what we're seeing in Iran today.
Right, So the reality is, you know, they they pay these people to show up forty thousand people in the streets of la for two hours in order to get the in order to get the footage that to then put it on you know, and it less you know, thirty minute repeat over in the their news cycle and then shut off everything else to the yah.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 4So you know, it's very very important that we understand that.
And moreover, I don't know anything more about inter Rome politics, like the factions within the city of Rome itself.
Then Italians understand.
I got a note this morning from from a patron.
I said, Tom, thank you so much the other day for going over why Trump from Queens is so much different than than than Manhattan.
He's like, I'm an Italian from New York.
I get it, dude, I grew up.
I get it.
But my Italian friends over in Italy don't understand it at all.
And I'm like, yeah, so, but if.
Speaker 3You pointed them to Rome, they would totally understand.
They would put out, there's thirty two freaking major factions in Rome itself.
Speaker 4Exactly, exactly families and the neighborhoods exactly.
Speaker 3Okay, I'm going to float something by you guys if I might, okay, because I really want your thoughts.
Okay.
My firm belief is that you know, the devotion in you know, really the British Romans, right, that's who is behind this, are seeking to now collapse the liberal democracy that they spent four hundred years bringing about, and what Trump and others and Trump's just you know, he's a man filling a role, right, but the oligarchs around him are trying to actually save liberal democracy.
And how do you do that?
Right?
So I think that the no regime changes but you know, bringing about the changing of people are fostering if the local you know, powers decide to remove the leader, however, keep the you know, quote unquote liberal democratic system to you know, the the current regime in power.
What you're doing is you're you're using the liberal democratic system to save the liberal democratic system that is actually intentionally trying to be collapsed.
Now, what you're also terribly one second too small pieces.
What you're also doing there is you're you shunting off revolution in your own country.
Yeah, by maintaining faith and belief in liberal democracy and in termtly so are one of the things.
And then you're also not providing the argument that you're a totalitarian dictator that's trying to rule the world.
Speaker 4So yeah, yeah, I agree with all that.
I'll say is that what's important is to minimize the violence domestically in these places that need to have this need to have these changes occur.
You need to keep some faith in the institutions, because you don't.
Civilization collapses when faith in the institutions in every way collapses.
So if you can, if you can, if you can, you know, walk the tightrope between you know, reforming keeping people have this some faith that the institutions themselves can be reformed.
That will keep a lid on on.
Speaker 3The violence, and then that helps dramatically reduce the likelihood of World War three and over civil wars and revolutions at home in our own country because and this is why Trump's got in America has to lead this because we are the target.
We've always been the target.
Yes, right, we've always because we're the only ones with both the undeveloped and the developed capital assets necessary.
You know, the resources and the capital assets necessary to reflush the system.
They could take Russia, it still wouldn't be enough because all those resources are in the ground and they can do loans and all kinds of other things.
You also need the already established capital assets, right, the money, the wealth, you can take.
Speaker 4The infrastructure of all all of it.
Yet, al what do you think?
Speaker 2Yep?
Generally agree, But.
Speaker 3Okay, I just want to make sure that you also don't know if you allow regimes to collapse and then go to the violence, you also don't know what's going to merge out of that, and that could be a very that could shape up into a threat against you very quickly.
Speaker 4I mean, ultimately, what you're what you're saying, we're what we're kind of saying here is in order to minimize the amount of violence and the downstream and disorderly second, secondary, tertiary coordinary effects of the change in government, you're trying to minimize that as much as possible so that civilization itself isn't threatened.
But in that place, by the because if every place you can do that in is another means by which to then make it easier for another place to be reformed without bloodshed.
And and not just the United States, I'm talking about everyone.
Yeah, Syria, or if it's or if it's Gyemen, or I don't you know, pick a Burkina Fosso, like all of these things.
Watch you know, the rich is doing great work, you know, trying to help us understand what's happening in the Sahel region, right and how that's trying to sort itself out.
I think that's it's just one of those things that's popping into my head.
And we've been watching this play out for the last couple of years, and you know, hoping against all hope that the old French colonial remnant can go away, so that these people can walk forward into the into the future, not at each other's throats, not not seduced by the sirens.
Speaker 1Call.
Speaker 4Oh, by the way, here's some weapons.
Go fight your go fight your cousins over there hap fields.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 4So then that's what I said.
Speaker 3Let's look at the United States, because this is you know, the conflicts coming here.
We are going to have to do some things.
So people are going to have to get indicted, and some of them are governors.
So what is what is being done right now?
What's being done right now is malicious actors that are in leadership are being removed.
But the system, the structure of the regime, you know, the voice of the people isn't being you know, suppressed, shutter shut down, crushed, et cetera.
And that system.
You know, So let's think, not saying this is the case for anybody, but think of Venezuela as if it was an American state that the federal government had to move against.
Wouldn't that kind of be the way without maybe the delta force and everything else unless we're forced to it.
But wouldn't this be the way you would want to bring about a change in Minnesota if there was you know, not only indictable but convictable evidence against Waltz or Newsome or somebody else.
Right, and then what have they also done?
We didn't send troops into back the current government in Venezuela.
It's like, we'll back you in your constitutional process and you follow that, but you're going to have to stand on your own.
Now, would we do we killed the foreign security assets?
Okay, Well, what's going on?
In it on right now, it's the same thing.
Right, they'd have to stand on their own.
But we're not going to move against you, and we're going to try and help anybody who might unduly move against you.
And if you survive this and you don't do what what Trump said, right, you don't open fire on your own people, and you survived this, well, you're a legitimate power.
You're you're legitimately in power.
Now when it comes out of that, hopefully some some you know, some changes and some societal changes and other things.
But that's to you and your people.
Speaker 4But that's what that's what the irrodiances to figure out correct internal and and for the and for Minnesota, it's very important for example, that you put it, you bring an ice you only you don't.
He's being begged to cross the line into the Insurrection Act, to invalidate the idea of protest, to invalidate the First Amendment, to invalidate because people are all crazy, and and they may be they may be wrong.
They made their constitutional arguments about what's going on here will be off, but they still have a right to that to that assembly under the First Amendment.
Speaker 3And saying about the American system is you have the right to be wrong.
Speaker 4That's right, that's that's that's correct.
Let's let's let's get the let's get the language right, language correct, That is very correct.
You have the right to be wrong.
And here's when we get the indictable slash convictable evidence.
The system then actually is completely reinforced.
The first Amendment rights of all these people were correct.
Speaker 3We're we're honored.
Speaker 4Defended and honored.
Yes, the law enforcement was defended and honored.
The end the and the rule of law was defended and honored, and leaving it into the.
Speaker 3Minnesota peoples to decide to do through their right.
So we have an old saying in these old families before this whole liberal democracy stuff.
Right, the forms and rituals must be obeyed.
Well, we're constitutional as peoples.
Well, constitutions have forms and rituals as well, and they must be obeyed or you have actually are a tyrant, or you actually are unconstitutional.
Right, And the American Constitution is the greatest expression of the English Constitution.
We plugged all the gaps and holes of the time.
We're probably gonna have to do some more amendments and fix some amendments.
Right, that's just the way it is, but the forms and rituals must be obeyed.
Speaker 4I have some commentary about the supremacy cause in the interstate commerce clause I think need to be.
Speaker 3A We also need to deal with the portionment clause in the fourteenth, and we need to some gaps in the nineteenth and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4That's seventeenth.
Speaker 7You know that there's a couple of things that need to be But I think this is also yeah, I think this is also you know, I believe fundamentally what the current regime and the power structure right, because it's not just you know, the current administration.
Speaker 3I shouldn't say regime.
I believe fundamentally what they're trying to do across the board, not just the United States but elsewhere is a liberal democracy because what the devotions and others, you know, the fourth right, for all intents and purposes, that's what it is.
Their intent was to collapse liberal democracy now and bring about totalitarian you know, national socialist regime.
And alex is something you said.
I think in a conversation you and co Kinder and Rich had here recently.
Your I fund might agree, we're not dealing with communism.
We're already fascist systems.
We've been a fascist systems since the nineteen thirties across the board, and I disagree with Cokinder of one thing.
I believe FDR finished what Wilson started in the United States.
Speaker 4I'm not a big fan of FDR, but I do believe that certain aspects of what FDR was trying to accomplish were correct.
Speaker 3I agree with what she was articulating about him and the intent after the war.
I agree.
I think that again, like a message you and I had this morning, I sent you, I think Eisenhower.
I think MacArthur first, because Mark MacArthur is like the most one of the most American Americans we've ever had.
People really need to go back.
I was a big fan when I was a Tong guard, the two Unknown Soldier.
He and his father are the only father son Congressional Medal Lawn recipients, by the way, right, and so I used to study.
But yeah, so I think what's happening.
I think the power structures, not just here but in Russia, in China and elsewhere are trying to save liberal democracy.
And to do that, you can't just go in and you know, cut the head out.
You can't act like the National Socialists, you have to actually operate within, as expensive and difficult and hard as it is, as much as you can, you have to operate within the constructs and ideas of liberal democracy.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's one of the things that was out there this morning that covering the Minnesota protests.
What headline bled on zero heads this morning, heads are going to roll like a seventeen ninety three.
Now I read the article and they led with that on zero heads because well, you know, zero had to learn British propaganda media techniques better than anyone.
But that was just one guy holding one sign.
But you can get an idea of the mindset of what what messages there?
They're they're field testing, They're a b testing right now.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Alex, Well, you know, stuff can be done.
Speaker 2I looked at how, you know, when Putin came to power, he had pretty much the Western parliamentary system ruled by oligarchs on on his hands, and the oligarchs had practically monopoly and political power in their country.
And he didn't go in and run a purge, you know, night of the Long Knives and start putting people in prison and people disappearing and dying and so forth.
He like about six months after coming into power, he invited eighteen of the biggest oligarchs to the Kremlin and he laid down the rules.
These are the rules.
And then like three of them challenged him.
He didn't kill them.
It went to court, so it was them against the state, and they lost.
Speaker 3And they didn't have to create any new laws.
They didn't have to create any new They use exactly what was on the books at the time.
And then you know, the Brits, the Brits.
Speaker 2What the Brits were trying to do to try to get the oligarchs to mutiny is they kept pushing out rumors that Putin was going to reverse the nineteen nineties privatizations and that he was going to nationalize what the oligarchs stole.
And they really stole it, I mean billions of dollars worth of stuff.
And Putin decided, no, I'm not going to do that, you know, because somebody's going to own it anyway, may as well be them.
You got to pay your taxes, you got to treat your employees right, hey, you got to stay out of politics.
That last one was the you know, the the the biggest problem for them and so it went to court, they lost.
Life went on, and then he invited them about ten months later for another meeting, same same deal.
You know, eighteen of the biggest oligarchs at the Kremlin around that ginormous round table, and again he was like, I hope things are getting better between us.
I wanted to reaffirm the rules and reassure you once more that there will be no reversals of privatizations.
There will be no nationalization of what you have.
What you stole is yours.
Enjoy it, run your businesses, blah blah blah, and stay out of politics.
And then the rothschild erin boy Mikhail Gorokovski went to war against Puddin and he's the only one of the eighteen oliguards who ended up in prison.
Speaker 3And lost his wealth.
He's the only one that lost his wealth, which is the most important thing.
Speaker 2Correct.
Speaker 3These people don't care if they go to prison.
What they care about is losing their wealth.
Speaker 2Yeah.
You see, he also had some kind of a deal where if he got an incapacitated, his share package would go to Jacob Roschild.
Yeah yeah, yeah, And then you know, like that didn't happen there, They got screwed, but you know it was.
It would have been in any normal jurisdiction, it would have been an illegal contract because it was a contract, a binding contract with an unnamed party.
Yeah, you know, sorry, that doesn't exist.
They can't be Yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, there's so many there's so many things wrong with all of that stuff.
That Ali.
Thank you.
That was really good because it's been one of my arguments for a long time.
Now that you know, Trump and Putin talk all the time, and watching the way Trump has been handling the nascent Color Revolution tactics, it's very reminiscent of the way Putin has handled those tactics in the past.
And you bring up this aspect of it at this point in time, is another angle on that exact thing to support M's point.
So outstanding, truly.
Speaker 3So let me give you, guys one other little piece that's in support that the only reason Putin was able to do that is because he could trust absolutely and fundamentally every aspect of his security detail.
Speaker 4Yep.
Speaker 3And that's what Trump does.
Speaker 2Now.
Speaker 3Trump didn't have that in his first term.
Now he has it.
Speaker 4Yeah, he uses all private security now now.
Speaker 3He's got well, he uses public security, but he augments it with his private security and they you know, his watchers watched the watchers, and.
Speaker 4Then he does most and he does he does all this at Mariago.
Speaker 3It's ludicrously expensive.
Speaker 1By the way, there's a there's a guy had on who Fred Burton, who's in the Diplomatic Security Service, and it was all part designing the embassies and whatnot.
And in his book early on in it it's and it was written way before Trump took office.
Was him visiting then private citizen Donald Trump, and he was like, I went into like one of his conceited casinos, like not even the flag show one.
He's like, I went to the control room and like my jaw dropped, Like as a guy that did this for a living, he was like, this dude is rolling with like not only like a kinetics strike team, but like NSA style surveillance.
And I've always.
Speaker 3Detection packages in those casinos is extounding.
Speaker 1But mind you, this is a guy that had not only done this for the DSS, but also this what he wasn't new.
It wasn't me he had.
Speaker 4He did that.
Speaker 1He also did like private you know whatever, consultation, Like none of this is new to him.
Within that he was like Trump was, like he was that was insane.
He's like I left there and like, this is why I also think Trump.
Speaker 3This is why I think Trump was selected in military academy, and I think his life's been carefully shaped ever since.
And he's proven himself every every step of the way.
And he's not the other only one.
There's three others in his inner circle, and there's some others.
I believe very fundamentally.
When they killed the Kennedys, they brought the reaction.
And oh, by the way, they didn't just kill the Kennedies, they killed Lord mount Batten.
They blew up Lord mount Batten.
Why because Lord mount Batten was the one who could have replaced the security around the crown, the royal family in England and broken them free after three hundred years.
Speaker 4Right, So that's an angle I did not.
I did not, And so then what do they do?
Speaker 3They paint him as Lord mount Batten was mounting a no, no, no, Lord Batten was doing everything possible fit to physically free the British crown.
Of course, that would look like he was mounting a physical coup by the enemies.
Right, Okay, here, I'm gonna give you guys a little suspicion.
I don't know, because it depends on how it plays out.
And I think I mentioned Tom might have been you, me or somebody else the other day when we were talking, but uh, maybe it's Blaine.
I suspect at some point, if it gets bad, we are going to see seventeen and Delta force the King and the Prince and the Crown Prince and everybody else out of England and we're gonna let the government there collapse.
Speaker 4And the other possibility, the other possibility is to not actually have to do that.
I mean ba again, t Timeline.
Remember Charles has been invited to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary here in the United States of the Declaration of Independence.
Like nothing.
You know, the whole royal family will be there.
It's Charles accepts, and William accepts, and everybody else accepts, and they're all there.
Speaker 3If you are going to the last piece in the British Empire chess board is the executive of the English and the English system, and that is the Crown.
You have to hold the high ground.
Well, you don't go in their country and try to know you pull them out by the way, this has happened before in English history more than once and Scottish history.
Right, you pull them out, you secure them, you put yours trusted, absolute security around them.
You let the government destroy itself and you know, ruin itself and bring civil war about, because that's that's what's going to happen.
It's already started.
And then Charles abdicates.
He's not healthy anyways, you can just see it in his hand.
He's got major kidney issues, he advocates.
And we send William back with executive full now secured executive powers on behalf of the English peoples who are a constitutional people, yep, right, and we send you back and we restore and that's the last piece in the you know, this removed roval of this parasitic British Empire from the world.
And back time to something you said, I do believe, I do believe that we buy Greenland, not from the Inuits but from Denmark.
Yeah so, and we saved Denmark in the collapse something to you said, I think we're going to do the same thing with the United Kingdom under William.
Speaker 4It's it's all very possible, and and and and then that freeze Canada freeze Australia, all the crown, all the crown, the crown assets.
Speaker 2Yeah, a question to mister Burlingham in case you happen to know the answer to the question.
But what's the deal with the casinos, because you know there's something about casinos and Trump ran casinos and Marylandski ran casinos and what's his face, the Israeli donor guy.
Speaker 3Oh Adele stand or whatever, Sheldon Adelson.
Speaker 4And then and then you know.
Speaker 2The British, British Jewish billionaires ran casinos in Russia.
You know, they went in with casinos into Russia in the nineteen nineties.
And I randomly met a guy in Croatia who used to manage a casino in Saint Petersburg for one of these people, and all kinds of everything happens there, you know, like the KGB people are coming, then these people are coming?
Speaker 4Is it?
Speaker 2I was wondering why, and he explained to me that somehow casinos have almost like their own jurisdiction, like the local jurisdiction doesn't quite apply to them, Like what happens in the casinos is like in their own bubble.
And then you know, maybe there's also like a lot of wealthy and important people come there and they get themselves up to their eyeballs in debt, and so then these casino people owned them.
And so just just as an aside answer, what you know, he was telling me this, all these owners of the casinos in Russia who were like British Jewish, they were refusing to pay tax to uh, to the you know, to the Kremlin.
And so he was telling me that for like a couple of years, every few months people from KGB, from the FSB would come to the casino and they would say like, hey, guys, you have to pay some tax.
And these people were like, piss off, you know, we don't we don't even recognize you.
And so they would come back and I was say, like, guys, really you have to pay some taxes here, you know, like and he said, like for like four years they were refusing.
They paid them zero zero.
And you know what happened next, Like between three hundred and four hundred people of these Brits and Jews who ran the casinos all vanished from one day to the next.
And the guy that I talked to, he told me my boss was one of them.
And now I know as a fact that he was killed, like they were all killed in a very short space of time.
And then of course you get new management and then the FSB guys come back and they say like, you guys have to pay some tax.
And now they're like, yeah, I guess we got to pay some tax after all.
So then anyway, that's the story.
It doesn't matter.
But I was trying to understand, like what is the deal with casinos, Like why is everything kind of converges into the building of the casino and you know, even the film Casablanca, you have a few.
Speaker 3Ye Okay, so give me one second, great question and very important.
Okay, Casinos are the clubhouse, right, They're the they're the private club, right, the gentlemen's club for both the Mob and the intelligence community and the wealthy elite.
It's the one place where the three of those entities can come hang out together.
And it's all self funding.
So where do you know who created Vegas Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel who were the first big people there.
Why do they bring big stares there in all of that?
Speaker 4Right?
Speaker 3So for the intelligence collection people, they use the Mob to do intelligence collection on people from all over the world.
For the Mob, they get to break in a bunch of they get the launder a bunch of money for the intelligent, you know, not the intelligen, but you know, the the high net worth, high powered folks.
They get to meet mob bosses and intel bosses and pick up pieces of information and you know, have conversations that maybe one or more of those other worlds, because they're different worlds ostensibly set against each other and somewhat against each other.
But casinos are the neutral, neutral territory in which all three of these great powers can sit down in the gentleman's club and it's all self funding.
Speaker 2Right, Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, because then you can, like a mob guy mob boss can meet up with like some top level politician on judge and it accidentally ran into cards.
Rather than if the mob bike guy came to visit the judge at his courthouse, people would be asking questions.
Speaker 3Yeah, and if a guy, if you want, you know, guys ran into a bad night and you know, judge or somebody, you don't necessarily have to set them up.
They just had a bad night.
Well, their deada gets excused.
Nobody needs to ask anything.
There's no favor, but there's a there's an understanding.
So that's what casinos are.
Speaker 8I know.
Speaker 3By the way, the first one that was really the great one that did this was Monico.
What do you why do you think Monico is Monico?
Right?
Speaker 4Right?
Speaker 3Because Monico has from it's very not necessarily quite from its beginning, but pretty close to its very beginning, but really under Prince Albert's father, right, the Grand Duke, right, Monico in the nineteen thirties through the nineteen fifties has been the you know, gentlemen's club for mob, you know, for mob and sits around the world for you know, real power leaders in the world, wealthy elite and you know the legitimate folks uh and intelligence agencies.
Speaker 2Yeah, Monico is chuck full of the intelligence assets and they are you know, like there's so many that you can't even miss it even if you know, you know, like there's so many people that it's not like why are you here?
How do you justify your you know, like, how do you make a living?
It's just at a and then you know, would you would you know, Vladimir Putin was here twice and the guy who is the chief of Prince Albert's security is a friend of mine.
He's Croatian, m so he told me.
And then just today I saw a little chunk of some documentary that was produced by Bill browder M in which he's like pelting rocks and stones at Prince Albert and he's showing pictures, you know, like that day when when Prince when when Vladimir Putin was filmed riding a horse chested.
Yeah, Prince Albert was there at that time, you know, they were.
Speaker 4They were hanging out.
Speaker 3When I was in the yacht building business, we used to do Prince Albert's yacht show every year there in.
Speaker 2The Old Court.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And then Edmund Sofro got off here on the line, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Well you look at all the car accidents that have happened either in France just outside of Monaco, or in Italy just outside of Monaco.
Yeah yeah, yeah, right on the way to Nice or on the way right stounding.
A mount of car accidents have happened that people get killed in and out of Monaco.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Even some boats, right, even some sinking of some boats.
Speaker 5Yes, yes, yeah, yachts.
It gets the sea gets rough sometimes, do you know.
It's a lot of curves, a lot of curves.
Yeah, yeah, very interesting, very interesting.
I I knew more about it, but I know a little bit about it.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Well, I mean there's no but there's no passing in Monaco on an F one race, Like there's like one pass in the entire businessweets are so pretty tight.
I watched the I watched them the race of Monica.
Oh my god, you're waiting.
You watch for an hour and a half.
It's like it's worse than a soccer game.
You're waiting.
You're waiting for, you know, the two and a half hours of guys driving behind each other.
Speaker 3And then you're waiting for crashes.
You're waiting for crashes.
That's what you want.
Speaker 2Two and a half hours you're going like, what, who's who's in the lead, what's going on?
Speaker 4Yeah, you're two and a half hours of that guy's in the lead, and he's gonna be in the lead because nothing ever changes, because that's the way Monica is.
Speaker 3I mean, you used to watch Monaco because it used to regularly kill left one drivers.
Speaker 4Well yeah, but now that the old days.
Yeah, the cars not Yeah, that's the reason why I was there.
Now it's just cars are too safe now, the drivers are too good.
The last time I watched an F one race, I think it was a Monica about ten years ago.
I'm like, okay, so this is worse than a soccer game.
There's like three scoring chances in the entire game.
There's like, you know, I'm a hockey guy, right, there's you know, I need three I need three scoring chances between you know, whistles like it's.
Speaker 2Almost it's almost as bad as baseball.
Speaker 4Spoken like you smoking like the cocaine European in the audience, Like.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wanted to flaunt it.
I wanted to flaunt it.
Speaker 4Fair Alex, Hey, I get it.
But baseball.
I don't know fan of modern baseball at all.
I'm you know, I gave this sport a miss in the in the eighties.
But and but the but the purity of the original game, it's the very So.
Speaker 2I tried, I tried hard to figure figure out baseball.
And I lived in Venezuela in addition to the you know, like addition to the United States and in the baseball is big in Venezuela.
Like made an effort to try to figure it out, and then they gave up.
I thought, like, okay, guys, this is like, so slow, it is so slow.
I don't have this this kind of time.
Speaker 4It is really I meant to be a game that is watched in the stands with your friends chatting about it happens on as it goes along.
Getty Lee the basic play the bass player singer from Mars Huge Baseball Man, and he describes it that way, like when you go to the.
Speaker 2Game, it's it's it's it's like a social event.
Speaker 4It's a different it's a different experience, and it's the thing.
And it took him a while, but eventually he was like, you know, downtime on tour, we go to go to games where he was in town and learned the game and then it was like, oh my god, it's one of the greatest games ever.
But of course he was also falling off at the game when the game was good and then and then the first strike happened, and then they lowered the mound, and then they altered all the stadiums because now it's just a long ball game.
It's just just and you know, six freaking pictures of a game.
Speaker 3And the only sport that matters to me that I enjoy is regime change.
Speaker 1At Alex Alex as the bounce.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, Alex, I wish I could hang out man, great pleasure.
I enjoyed this conversation.
I think we even gave each other a few ideas.
I know I got some ideas.
So until until the next time, have a good rest of your Sunday.
And I think we're going to have a very very transformative twenty twenty six.
Buy corn futures when Trump goes to Davos.
Speaker 3Popcorn sales are going to be off the charts, and prostitute futures, and.
Speaker 4Whiskey futures because of the Well Scotch futures because it's the Europeans, and box wine Devogan approved box wine sales or will be off the charts.
Alex.
Speaker 1I was gonna say, if you want to see some crazy ship, look up some old black and white races before they even had like walls.
Dude there Jim Clarks.
Speaker 4Yeah, Jim, I watched like one documentary about that guy.
I'm like, greatest race driver ever.
Some of the stuff is like a piker like.
Speaker 1Some of those is insane, like the you know, a car would hit you know, like whatever, like a metal barrier, the engine would fly out and it would go through the crowd and they'd be like twelve dead.
Speaker 4Yeah crazy, I mean, and and that era, like you got to realize that like those those manual transmissions didn't have synchronizers.
Those guys were were heel toe redmatched.
Speaker 1The cars are like twenty years old, automobile twenty years old at that point.
Speaker 4I'm a dude, I'm like, I'm a I'm a I'm a stick kind of guy, but you know, I'm a no freaking way, no synchronizers doing red matching heel toe at those speeds that way unbelievable, un fucking believable, what those men did and how good they were.
Speaker 1Tommy from the conversation, what's I was gonna I was gonna say, you got we can keep going if you want to know he had to run, but I got nothing to do.
Speaker 4We can chout for I'm happy to go for about another half an hour and then.
Speaker 1I'm listening to you guys, all right, keep going.
Speaker 3Yeah, so so tom Uh, give me one second.
Speaker 4Sure.
Speaker 3I don't believe that they're going to escalate Minnesota or LA or anywhere else right now.
I think they're going to try and back off as much because twenty twenty you know, if they go in now, then it gives justification for harder movements, harder actions, and they really think that they can set the condition for steals in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4Right, Yeah, I mean I I I understand that position.
Yeah, and I and I agree that that's there.
That's their preferred move on the board.
Like I want, I want the three wood move, but unfortunately the two would move.
By the time you get to get there, they already went there first.
So through the game of agricula, I want the three wood board as supposed to the you know, the one that accumulates two every round, Like, no, you're gonna have to take that one, and you're gonna have to take the pace that we're setting upon you.
And so I that's you know, that's the only differences is to move the order of operations and move countermove.
I think Trump and company understand that they pushed the pace and they forced them onto the they forced their their their army onto the board before they're ready.
That's when you can wipe them out.
And so that's why Bessen is attacking the financial markets at the same time.
It's why I saw this week and I talked about it a little bit, not with you, but we were on We did the show with Alex and Susan on Friday.
I was watching the Weekly and and and even more so, I can look now what I saw on the Weekly Clothes when I looked at all of the cross market stuff, very clear.
They were selling belong end of the US yield curve hard.
They were moving in.
On Friday, they were dipped.
They started dipping into the sofa futures market, but busting that on the on the New York open on Friday morning.
Our whole yell curve falling under our eyeal curb moved like five or six points on Friday.
And it wasn't the fucking unemployment data.
Okay, that data was not interesting enough to see that kind of move.
But then we also started watching the Euro rolled over or again started to break down life and the yield spreads on all of the debt in the ten year markets all over the place.
The guard was sitting on the Germans, the Italians were or the Italian debt was getting bought against the French debt and the German debt.
And the truth is is that our and then Trump comes out with that statement about I'm instructing Fanny and Freddy to go back into the mortgage backed security market.
And that's code for oh, by the way, that's their traditional role to control the long end of the yield curve, because we expect our enemies in Europe to start selling their bonds and attacking our capital markets.
So you know, all these things are happening at the same time.
And so Iran Venezuela now he's talking to Syria that they made a move on.
They made a move in Syria.
Last night before I went to bed, I'm like, oh my god.
So with the blessing of Johnny, so there was trying to wipe out Isis and see they've got like all these theaters and are happening all at once.
I even got a I got a note from Dexter white Lass before the pads, Like I do think he's actually kind to solve all of these bringing problems like all at the same time.
You have to you have to path.
Speaker 1Yeah the time, this is EO or a very least decades in.
It's correct.
Speaker 3This is a of a lot of planning.
This wasn't just made up in the last four years.
Speaker 1We're harvesting, but all this ship was planted.
Speaker 3All correct, all the assets, all the people, all the personnel, the loyalty testing, all of it.
So here, Tom, here's my my concern, right because it's openly being stated, is you and and Alex and others and myself, you know, recently on the large scale, I mean, on the public scale, I should say, uh, I've been looking at where we are and where we've been.
My real concern right now is you know, in the book I wrote the Eternal Wars, at one of the doctoral lines called agenda, And in the what is the agenda of the resentfuls?
They're always embedding the next fight in the in the current thing, right when the current thing is just nascent, right, So they've been embedding the current the new fight, the next phase of the fight in in this very same counteraction, right in the very thing.
Okay, So what we're seeing out of openly out of Europe, claimed out of Europe, is a move to asymmetric warfare and a commitment to asymmetric warfare.
And my concern right now, and this isn't a pejorative indictment, et cetera, right, It's just we need to collectively and individually start looking for the signs of asymmetric warfare, right, because these are estrogenics.
They're never going to stop.
They're resentfuls, they're never going to stop fighting.
They've already figured out what the next fights are because they're always you know, we're busy trying to live life.
They're busy trying to fight.
You know, they're busy trying to conquer and defeat.
Is So my concern right now is that we need to all start looking at what was what are the metastasize asymmetric ways in which they're going to react and they're not going to be as obvious as riots and you know other things, right.
Speaker 4And that's why I keep watching the bond markets, I keep watching the PreCure metals markets.
You got to watch all these other things.
Interestingly enough, Now let's tie in Putin's role in that and the irection neck attack on the gas storage facility in Ukraine signed to you the same time, at the same time that, you know, as there was a you know, an attack on Berlin's electricity infrastructure, and then that's all happening all at once.
Now you got to ask yourself the question who did.
Speaker 2It and why?
Speaker 3Yeah, well, a europe they do it for themselves.
Speaker 4And now and did the Europeans do it for themselves in order to collapse the Democrat liberal order as you were saying, and then putin said, oh you think you're going to do that?
Why you're all going to freaking freeze?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 4Yeah, I mean because what he hit was Ukraine response.
He hit European gas storage that was being that was being outsourced to Ukraine because it was supposed to be you know, unpenetrable, impenetrable.
And that's why always does this, You attack his house, he waits ten days, Yeah, and then you see the response.
Speaker 3And it's it is a response you cannot react to exactly.
There's so great course, right, so give me one second.
Somebody wrote this, I don't know if it was you, but I think this is very very important, not just with former Soviet assets, but this gets to why I was saying in Americas, the United States has always been the target for collapse.
It's the built up infrastructure.
What Europe's looking at with Russia is not necessarily all the assets in the ground, it's all the infrastructure built up to the Soviets.
If they can get that infrastructure for pennies on the dollar.
They now have trillions and trillions of dollars of productivity capabilities that they don't have in Europe anymore.
And they and they they don't have to invest in it.
It's already built and it's nuke proof.
And so what did putin just And again, that's why they need the United States because we do still have manufacturing and we can turn it back on fairly quickly, and we have energy independence, but they don't.
Except so this was the argument was that the real value of Russia and the you know, the former Soviet block is there's a vast amount of industrial capacity, logistics capacity, et cetera, that's already been built, invested in, et cetera.
It's nearly bulletproof.
Well then what did what did putin just show?
Yeah, except for we can take it out with one.
Speaker 4Strike, right, yep, right, yep.
Yeah.
Speaker 3So you think you're going to come into here and you're going to come get our you know, productive resources for nothing, or you're gonna you're gonna move troops into because this actually was also the strike was just after they said the plant, right around the time they said the plan that they were going to move troops into Ukraine.
MM hmm okay, well why do they do that is to try and occupy these facilities, so then Russia has to fight Europe to get the Europeans out.
You think Putin's like, you know, no, we'll just wipe them off the face of the planet before you ever get a chance to take possession, right And.
Speaker 4You know, it's the same response that you know, NATO thinks they're going to do the Trump to stop them from getting Greenland.
They're putting troops on the ground over there, as Tripwire say, well, you know, if you you attack our guys in Greenland, then NATO's over like and I've been saying for a couple of weeks now.
The thing that scared me is the is the intuition like Europe is playing to kick us out of NATO to get rid of the last restraint against their behavior, because we're the ones restraining them.
Speaker 3And as anybody who does logistics and war ohs, you need Greenland as a staging area if you're gonna amount a war between Europe using Canada's natural resources in Europe and europe manpower, et cetera, to wage war against the United States physical war from the north, you need Greenland it's a staging area for ships, for subs, for aircraft, for you know, logistics, refueling and all of it.
Speaker 4Mm hmm, right, yeah, yeah, so I suspect.
Speaker 3Very important, right.
Speaker 4It also it also it also cuts Europe off from the trade routes, correct, the maritime trade lives to Canada.
They can't get the natural resources.
Speaker 3Well that's exactly what's it back to Europe so they can manufacture it into weapons.
Then they ship back over here to fight.
Speaker 4Up right, Okay, all right, and Froggy take that leap, go for it.
Speaker 3But we're gonna we're gonna end run you because we don't want to actually fight, so we're gonna end run you.
We're just gonna do a deal with Denmark, with the Crown of Dentmark.
So the question becomes one of this, right, this is where I'm thinking, I don't know if we do some of these moves, because it's move counter move before the collapse of the EU or the just the outright you know, final Night of Knives, you know, s a you know Fourth Reich push where they just take over and burn the right you know, the equivalent of the right Stag, or uh, if we do this before the collapse of the EU, and in the way in which we do it, we facilitate, you know, the the exodus from the EU in that you know, it's better to do business with the Americans and leave the EU.
If that's the criteria, then it is to stay in the EU and try and fight this thing out.
Speaker 4Yeah, and I and you know, and yeah, no, I mean, it's all that is is completely on.
Speaker 3I don't want to fight European boys.
We don't want to fight European.
Speaker 4And so they're now actually putting they're actually using those they're actually using their own people as human shields correct against their own against US region.
Speaker 3We don't want to fight European boys.
We just do not want to do that.
Speaker 4Why would we want to do that?
We want to we want to liberate these people if we're willing to, We're willing to do a risk global opprobrium over liberating Venezuela and Mexico and Iran and Syria and all the other you know, quote unquote shitholes.
Why wouldn't we want to do the same thing to liberate you know, there, our people's homeland.
Speaker 3It turns out, unlike all of you people, we actually don't hate white people, right, and even in southern Europe, we.
Speaker 4Don't hate our heritage.
Speaker 3We don't hear no heritage.
Speaker 4We may not care, we may not care much about it.
And like my personal I'm an American, you know, I don't know how to swear an Italian pigeon Italian.
You know, let's say, it's all I know how to do, because we didn't speak Italian in my family.
You know nothing, and we ate that way, I mean obviously, but you know that's culturally, that's all I know.
Speaker 3And I wonder could we see this in the market, because somebody always knows, right, somebody's always front running the trade, right.
So I'm wondering, I'm wondering if we could see and market data, if we were preparing to buy, you know, buy Greenland from Denmark and thereby plug one of Denmark's major fiscal holes or financial rules or solid metals holes or something, and then that induces Denmark, which is a sovereign you know, monarchy too, or can be a sovereign monarchy constitutional monarchy, to leave the EU.
And then that's a sign to other European countries, Well, we can help you solve some of your problems.
People and you're going to have to do the things that we're doing here to get rid of people and go back to liberal democracy and all this other kind of stuff.
Right, But we don't have to do it.
Speaker 4Through blood, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3You don't need to realize.
Four fifths of the United States we purchased, right, including most of the Western States.
People think we took them from the Mexican American War.
No, we didn't.
Actually, we purchased them from Mexico.
Speaker 4After beating them.
Speaker 3Okay, well fairpoint, fair point, but that's.
Speaker 4Fine, but we still gave them.
Speaker 3We still gave them, so we still gave them fair market price.
It's exactly right, that's exactly now.
Speaker 4It's not like we said the concerte heroes and because I mean think of it, I mean, were we conquered them in that respect, but.
Speaker 3We didn't have to pay them.
Correct.
Speaker 4But Washington's two thousand miles way, twenty five miles away across across our ridiculous terrain, like defended militarily, so you had to buy it and then do it.
Speaker 3Well, that's the other thing.
If you look closely, Mexico couldn't a Spain first, and then Mexico couldn't defend it either, right, And that's why they were willing to sell it to.
Speaker 4Us exactly because at the end of the day, it's only really good for raising Cowson like and we're good at that.
Yeah.
Right, So my question again, I like all I like all the models.
Yeah, I think your head's are a great place today.
By the way, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1So my other question about things like which again I don't need an justification.
I think we should take it in Canada anyway, but things like you know, the the early warning line in Canada as well as I mean, I think the biggest one is too, the air Force, but it's not we have almost like a symbiotic or maybe not because we're the main power relationship with them.
We have you know, nuclear bomber bases in Greenland.
Like, so none of this is new.
Why all of a sudden the sort of formalization of of we need it.
I'm not against it.
Speaker 3That's exactly the first one of the first conversations Tom and I very very much had.
We are at war with Europe.
Europe is planning to go to kinnectic war with US.
Greenland is absolutely essential in the logistics trained back and forth yes, yes, Now, whether they could win a war with us or not, they don't care.
They don't want to win a war.
What they want to do is they want to do exactly like World War One and World War Two.
They want to kill off a lot of their native sons so they're not threatened in their power regimes, and then they want us to financially support them for the next eighty fucking years.
That's how they think.
They want us to divorce them.
They want it to be an acrimonious divorce.
They want to cause us enough harm that we do we sustain their lifestyles on the other side of the divorce, an immense expense to ourselves.
Speaker 4Yes, yes, those are exactly the terms that they're that they're putting them forth in front of Russia for for losing in Ukraine.
That's exactly what they're doing in Ukraine's what they did to the Germans after World War War.
Speaker 3When you get that in your mind, when you realize that the old families of Europe are all matrilineal families, cross the board, right, you're dealing with estrogenic warfare.
They don't care if they win a physical war.
They just want to cause you enough.
What they really are trying to do right now is threaten us enough with asymmetric war and maybe an actual outright kinetic you know, no shit war war.
But they don't want to do that to win.
They just want to threaten us so that we won we don't finalize the divorce, which is what we're doing, and that if we do finalize it, we give them a nice settlement in the divorce so that we sustain their lifestyles for the next you know, till the end of their days.
Speaker 4Uh and no, yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 3I got kids and I got grandkids, and I need to support their life.
Speaker 4There's no is no is a complete sentence and does not need any further justification.
Speaker 3Doesn't even need an exclamation point.
Speaker 1No, yeah, no, not this not this time, as a as A as A as a sort of meta theme.
That's one thing I've I've really done throughout the history of the podcast is when I finally realized I didn't need to explain why I wasn't getting the COVID vaccine, and I thought, the first thing that came to my mind is if I go ask a chick for a number at the bar or something, I'm not I'm not a six foot tall but I'm a muscle bound dude.
And she says, no, I don't know why.
That's a very quicker to get your ass thrown out of it.
So now yeah, no.
If the answer is no, the answers no, why not?
Speaker 3No?
Speaker 1Same reason?
Why'd you take Madero?
Because fuck off?
That's kind of how I view you?
Speaker 7Know?
Speaker 4Why take you know?
Why?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 7Not?
Speaker 1Even that's way too much.
Speaker 3You don't even say you're just looking in the eyes.
But here's the problem that you tell me to use the your analogy, right, You and I haven't been bouncers at bars.
A girl goes up to a guy and he says no to her, she'll create a scene.
She'll take it to a fight.
She'll get some guys and some other people all riled up, and there'll be a fight.
Speaker 4That's very different me boys don't fight over me boys?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 4How many times have I?
How many times did I invoke the terrible, unbelievably, horrible, horrific image of Angela Merkle in a cheerleader's outfit saying don't fight over me, boys, which is what she was doing over Ukraine with Putin In the United States.
Speaker 3I think I know this puke bucket now exactly, but what I what?
Speaker 4I give it to you A loud and dirty in order to make it stick.
Speaker 3You just ruined my Sunday.
Speaker 4Bro, My work here is done.
I can do that from home and often do.
Speaker 1My stomach's been turning all day, and I don't know why this might have cured it.
Speaker 4No, no, no, actually, actually that's it.
Speaker 1I actually just hit one of those of those kind of clammy burps.
Speaker 4We're like, oh, that's what she did though.
Speaker 3No, but this, no, Tom, I mean, it's exactly.
You know, this is what people need to understand.
Europe is feminine.
It is it is estrogenic.
And again I'm not exaggerating.
People can look it up.
Go look up the oldest contiguous families in Europe.
They're all naturlineal and they are on every throne.
They're in every you know, high net worth families.
You know, the wife of the sister of the well not the wife you know, the sister of, but the wife of the mother of virtually every elite family in Europe.
And some of these families, like the House Garcende, is over nine hundred years old, unbroken mother to daughter.
There's the House eleanor there's the Fresny, there's all that.
Right, Well, this is how they think they've been waging this war for centuries.
This way.
They don't want to win, they don't need to win.
They just need to force us to a point where the men are like, Okay, just I'm gonna give you this.
You're gonna live comfortable, you're gonna go away, and you're gonna leave me alone.
The problem that that's bad enough that we keep doing that.
The worst problem is though she will never actually leave you alone, and enough will never be enough, No until you're at because what she's really down underneath, she's actually really pissed at you, at you because you said what no, no, and destroy you.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 4Yeah, sorry, tom No, I was gonna say that and watch some of these watch all of these videos of these women, kayak No, I'm talking about in Minnesota.
Women in Minnesota are insane.
I just wanted to stand there and like ask them some basic questions about what's going on, and then they just like lose their minds and turn into these like it's all this performative insanity, and you're like, I know what your biggest problem is, sweetheart, You've never been slacked, is what your biggest problem is.
But I'm not gonna slap you, but I am going to document just how fucking crazy you are.
Speaker 3I'm gonna highlight so this.
Okay, So Tom, you're this is the fight we're having in the US as well.
We are at war with the estrogenics.
And you're absolutely right.
I wrote this the other day, right.
The reason that lady got shot in that car is because she had been an unsufferable and dangerous individual much of her life, and nobody had throat punched her.
And unfortunately, the first time she got throat punched, it was a bullet and it missed and went into her face and killed her.
And there are tens of millions of those, male and female in this country right now.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, no, I know, and this is part of the problem.
And you know, I've been I chat with you, I have a bunch of different people.
I chat with him, and one day I got a I got a text from a friend of mine who's very hip on all the shit, and he just looked at me and said, you know, it looks like you're trying to, you know, single handedly being bring back the you know, the words like retard and all these other things.
I'm like, like, estosterone is starting to seek back into the into the conversation, just me, Like he was like, thank you for doing X, Y and Z for your thank you for your service, for trying to change the language.
But then there's the just in general, like midget.
That was the one I was calling him tracks.
I was calling Zalunsky tracksuit midget.
And you're like, yeah, we get to bring midget back into the You can't say that, well, you know, then that's retarded.
I can't say midget, you fagot.
But that's where we are, and it's starting to leak back into the into the conversation.
And when you have when you have a leader that is like Putin is a perfect game.
Why do people like Putin Not because he's not a not because he's a good guy or a bad guy or this or that.
He's none of those things.
He is calm and projects the exact image of the father figure you want in a responsible leader of your household, and Russia in the case in the case of Putin, Russia is his household.
And in many ways, Donald Trumps, you know, his his public persona vacillates between vacillates too much because he's such a figure that he doesn't create that that same image.
But here's the thing to say this, I think he does some of that on purpose.
I know he does some of that on purpose, because that's not his private persona, right his So his public persona is to tweak these people into insanity in order to get them, in order to show how deeply these people are insane and disturbed, so that we can look at them and go, those are my neighbors, and they're right over there.
And then we meet them at Thanksgiving, and then we meet them at Christmas, and then we meet them at the line standing in line at the fucking Wendy's and you know there and then you know, and then we go out.
We put on a Maga hat, and we got and we go and we go to see what kind of response we're going to get or whatever the thing is, right, And that's when you know, sometimes you give voice to a problem in order to get people the spine to go out and find out to give to give them the spine to then show their voice in their own little way, putting it on a bumper sticker, wearing a mega hat, doing the thing, openly chatting with their with their friends.
You know, in line while waiting for coffee that the the ass and the chick in front of you is, you know, kind of hot, is kind of hot, even though you know that because she's got a fucking purple hair and a nose ring, that everything from the neck up, I wouldn't you know, you know, God, God forbid she opens her fucking mouth, but yes, this is hot.
Speaker 3And then you know that that's might be able to factory resetter.
Speaker 4Maybe you know, that's not what I'm getting I know in here in factory.
Know what I'm talking about is that you know full well that she's a very good chance that she's going to turn around.
You look and you just kind of look at her and go, still have a nice ass bed.
Speaker 3Exactly.
Okay, Tom, totally agree with everything.
Here's here's my sense of exactly what you're saying.
Okay, And I wrote a book called This Our English Civilization, and one of the subtitles is, you know, pub brawl a couple of Okay, we're pub brawlers.
Americas are pub brawlers.
We are English, Scottish, Irish pub brawlers.
That is, who built who came to this land and who built and carved this land out and built it.
We are pub brawlers.
We're not fancy, you know, stylish.
Now, we can be when we need to, you know, et cetera, but we're pub brawlers.
We talked, you know, our father, right, he needs to be a pub brawler.
Speaker 4We need to know, we know when we know when to put on the Italians silk suit, correct, not the shorts kind of match our colors and our tie.
And then there's the other time where we're like, you know what, I'm STI buying the seven dollars shirt from fucking Walmart and the cargo shorts and I'm gonna wear so I'm gonna wear sandals with socks because because I fucking can, because I'm an American.
Speaker 3Yeah, Or I'm gonna I'm gonna look at that when I'm calling fake and gay, I'm gonna call that one a retard.
I'm gonna you're cool and oh you got a nice ass, but the rest of you sucks.
Speaker 4You're gonna call your friends retards.
Speaker 3Correct, correct, But that's the thing, that's the thing, everybody, you know, we fell for this whole European posh style of stuff.
And the problem is we're fucking English civilizational peoples.
By our nature, we are pub brawlers.
We work things out talking ship to each other and every once in a while having to back it up with a fistfight.
But generally we get through that ship and we go have a pint and we become friends.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Yeah, And it's so funny we're talking about this.
I'm almost like you my wife.
My wife gets asked all the time whenever I'm out in public.
She's like, do you watch Tim when he's on?
She's like, fuck no, Like I have to listen to this ship all day on, right, And my wife swears like a freak worse than she's quite.
She's quite a depth, right.
And but at the same time, you she's like, when we start doing she watches us be men that way.
She's just like men.
You know, they'll be fighting like we will.
We screaming at each other.
They're over politics, god damn and like literally all of it.
And then it'll all come down.
We'll look at each other, someone will say, someone will break the tension, will break the ice.
The third person in the room will go, come on, boys, you know, take your dicks out of whatever, and then all right, you'll.
Speaker 3Come with a fucking six back, crack some cans and say hey.
Speaker 4Go outside a bunch of stars.
And my wife will just stand there and go, well, this is the thing we've got to exis a fundamental thing.
Even she doesn't understand it.
Speaker 3And it's you know, women or women.
But I know women like this too, right, good healthy English, civilizational women.
They talk shit to each other too.
Of course they do it different than we do, and you know, et cetera.
But this is the thing that we you know, somewhere in the late eighteen hundreds, really when the Gilded Age, you know, uh sons and daughters start marrying European royalty and replussing up their you know, estates with the American monies, we started to try and become you know, stockil stylish Europeans.
We're pub brawlers.
American society, American culture is English society and culture in Irish and Scottish, and we're pub brawlers and we have to get you know, we need to accept and understand that because that's our greatest strength.
We talk shit and sometimes it's just fun and playful, and sometimes it's very real.
But it's the best way to do it.
It's a way to do it so we don't have to go really to violence in civil war and all this other kinds of stuff.
Yeah, and every once in a while we have a scuff, you know, some of us have a scuff with each other and we work it out and they're neither a new pecking orders.
Realized that we realized, Ah, I was kind of stupid.
That was kind of dumb like that, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4It's like it's like, it's like that.
There's a great story of I think I've heard this one where when they were making blater Under twenty forty nine and there was there's the fight in the bar between Ryan Gosling and and that's important.
In that fight, while they were doing it, Ford clocked, uh missed and clock Ryan Gosling in the in the draw like fuck them hard, I'm gonna it happens, And so everybody got Yeah, the day happened.
At the day, this is fucking Grison Portant.
He walks over with a bottle of eight He walks over to Ryan Gosling's trail or the bunch with a bottle of eighteen year old Scotch Force one drink, hands it to him.
They look at each other, sorry about that drink the drink, and He's like and our and Ryan's like looking at it, like you're gonna apologize?
Well, no, what do you think we're gonna like?
Do you think we're gonna like a funk or something?
Now we're done.
Yeah, that's that's the closest thing you're gonna get to an apology.
And then he like walked out because that is the juke glasses and that was that, and he was done because.
Speaker 3I don't need to apologize for anything.
It was an accident, but it's a recognition that the accident hurts you.
Okay, there's one other piece, and I'm terribly sorry, guys, I'm gonna have to run right.
But the other piece is that in that, in that pub brawler way, we all got to seize the strength and other people and we all got to see on times a fight between somebody and go, whoh wait a second.
I don't want that, because that's what real violence is, and that's something we've lost in this.
You know this in a couple of books I've written, Right, Civility is a shield.
Civility is a shield.
Speaker 1It's a.
Speaker 3It's a shield to mask and hide true strength so that we cunts can rise up into positions of power.
And then what happens because we're not pub rollers anymore, and it's not allowed, it's frowned upon.
Nobody gets to see in their everyday life.
Oh shit, you don't pick on that guy, You don't take that person on, you don't say that ship to that kind of person.
He doesn't have to hit you, just you know, you grab that bitch by the face and just push her over there, right, and.
Speaker 4You know, everybody, if anybody is confused about any of this, just go and watch They Live.
For the greatest this fight in the history of cinema.
Speaker 3Oh I've not seen it.
Speaker 4Oh my god.
Really, They Live has the longest fistfight in film history.
It's seven and a half minutes between Roper and David in the alley.
It's seven and a half minutes long.
It's an eighty four minute movie.
Speaker 1And somebody pointed out it's it's a fantastic metaphor for the pain you're going through when you're trying to wake somebody up to the world.
Speaker 4That's exactly what interesting, It's exactly what it is.
The fist fight is over.
Put on the Hoffman glasses, see the world for how it is.
Speaker 3Well that's exact.
Okay, so great, that's exactly what I'm saying.
People can't see the reality of strength and real strength because we're not allowed to be pup brawlers anymore, because that's how we used to see it.
So somebody said something stupid, somebody did something stupid and they paid for it physically, and other people around were like, damn right.
Speaker 4So am your your mission?
This evening over?
Two fingers of scotch.
Al right, watch they live.
Speaker 3All right, it's done.
Speaker 4I'll do it me.
I'm gonna watch John Wick four because get them same thing.
Speaker 1All right, Jent, we'll wrap it as allway.
I appreciate y'all's time.
And uh, we didn't say anything mean about Alex.
I think that's you know, oh we got it all frontloaded.
I suppose I did open this show with I suppose I did open this show with He's gonna fuck a chicken to death on camera.
Speaker 3So yeah, yeah, you front loaded.
Speaker 4You know it'll be cook go on because he's in France, so it'll be it'll be cooked on top of yeah, old hen.
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