We dive into Zohran Mamdani's historic victory in New York - and why Joe thinks too many are already taking the wrong lessons from the win. Hint: it's the tactics, not the message. And what really happened with turnout in 2024? Why Joe's skeptical about any turnout claims. Why are primaries so important to building a successful operation? Trust the guy who's won more presidential primary states than just about any other talking head out there.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices