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University Radicalization and Indoctrination

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So anyway, nothing to do with the topic tonight.

Tonight we're talking about university radicalization and indoctrination, and I guess I didn't realize how few people actually even understand what it is that happens at universities.

And I have a really unique perspective on it because I am someone who went to probably not even arguably, like probably just objectively, in everybody's opinion, the most radical college university that exists in the United States, and then was radicalized, then became a communist, then was in the streets agitating for revolutionary communist dictatorships and take over before I was broken free from that mind trap by my deep understanding that I have a soul which is rare, which is rare, and so that that's what freed me from that trap and allowed me to start questioning and moving away from those ideologies and eventually into you know, much different places, you know, and eventually like actual anarchy and actual you know, liberty mindedness and awareness, and also someone who even has a respect for capitalism, a deep respect for capitalism, so radically different place that I am at now, and so I get to look back at the whole thing and I get to really understand deeply, you know, what happened.

I'm also highly intelligent psycho for psychological as far, you know, as far as not being a psychologist, but being someone who has been very deeply intertwined with a field of psychology and studied it and lived it in many ways.

You know, I've got that perspective as well to sort of add to this.

So I have this political savviness, this psychological savviness, and this just experience in my life that I think whens some interesting views on the radicalization that does go on in university grounds and what's become true since then.

You know, I went to this University of paknaw specifically, is the Evergreen State College more recently kind of infamous, i'll say, for being so radical, but at the time relatively unknown.

But those who did know it knew exactly what it was, and you know, super hippie.

We'll say, it was a very very hippie place, but it was also therefore a very radical place politically.

But the Evergreen State College that was twenty five years ago, that's twenty five years ago that I went there, went there from I shouldn't say twenty five twenty years ago.

I went there from about two thousand two three or so, is that right, No, it's two thousand and three to two thousand and six or so.

Yeah, that's right.

And so I got my bachelor's there.

I did my associates in about three years.

I did my bachelor's in about three years.

That I did my master's about three years.

So I did the nine year, six year degree, and I just took my time, you know, it took some vaticals, traveled here and there from time to time, and I really got the most out of those loans that I could possibly get.

So and you know, so again that was a long time ago, but I remember, I'm not I'm not forgetting.

And I just look back at it.

It's almost like this like fog of war.

I'm like, really, that's who I was.

But I again have to give myself credit because half of this is psychological, if not one hundred percent of it psychological.

And so universities have a profound impact on young people no matter where they come in at because you know, essentially you're always dealing with the same thing, which is young people whose brains haven't finished developing.

Most people are graduated by the time they're twenty five.

That's when your brain's done developing.

So you've still got this indoctrination effect that is on these super pliable developing minds and identities, and so that this naivety brain pliability, and then also this emotional and life experience immaturity.

Right, But that's not how university kids feel.

And you may relate.

We felt like we were I felt like I was grown when I was twelve years old.

I mean, if you keep this delusion for a while and if you grow out of it, it's usually about twenty five to thirty where you're like, oh, oh, now I'm kind of growing up.

I've was never grown before.

Now, you know, if you're an honest person, and if you're even more honest, you'll say, I didn't really fully even have an ability to understand myself as a self in a world that is social and political in a pretty good, balanced, mature way until late thirties forties even.

And this is why.

Actually that's the age where many people who were once very idealistic and often leftist and maybe even revolutionary minded have become more conservative, and they get criticized for it, but really it's actually just sort of a natural progression of your growth as a human.

It's your personality and your brain's development.

So we're going to talk a little bit more about all of that tonight, because I again I don't think people really understand how radical it can get and why it gets that radical.

I think people misunderstand deeply in fact, that it isn't just that you go and you're exposed to a bunch of people of different opinions.

If it were just that, that'd be great.

If you just went and you met people from all over the country and you know, people you didn't grow up with, and you had this sort of you know, big distult of new sort of being this around and like cool, that's not radical, right.

There are other things that go on, So we'll look a little bit into that and more, and we'll do it right now.

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So we'll start here the Evergreen State College.

It's a beautiful college.

By the way.

I mean, I'm biased because I love Pacific Northwest.

I love the pages sound, it's a pretty amazing campus down there in Olympia, Washington, and this really beautiful setting and I don't know what it's like now, but when I went, it was still off in a giant amount of forest, like pretty decent ways outside of the city itself, so pretty cool.

As you can see even by this short film you might be watching on your screen, it's a very hippie still.

And you know, I love that they incorporate native elements and art, and I love that our mascot was the Gooey doc And I love this beautiful campus with all of my art.

And I did have a great I had a great time there.

I think many people do, no matter what college they go to.

I didn't do the full Evergreen thing.

I wasn't a traditional student.

I worked two jobs and did all kinds of other stuff that I've always, no matter what I've been doing in life, been much more concerned with my own life than with like whatever it is I'm doing.

So if I have a job or if I'm going to college, like that's like the thing, that's like the other thing I'm doing.

But what I'm really doing is living right.

And so that's why it takes me three years to finish two year degrees.

But I uh, not because I fail things.

It's just because I go slower and so I also do evening and weekends in almost every program I do, and this was no different.

So the traditional full Evergreen experience is even more indoctrinating than the one I did, so I sort of skipped through that by doing evening and weekends where normally it evergreen.

What you do is each quarter or semester I don't remember, but you pick a program that is fifteen to twenty credits and it is one pro and you do that with a group of people, and you're with the same group of people in each of the suppose you know classes, it's not even really broken up into you know, here's your math credits, here's your Science, here's your English.

It's all one class and it's just embedded into it as all these things.

I actually like that philosophy too.

It's a really decent way to learn.

But you can imagine too, how tight knit you would get with a group of people that you went to every single class, every single day for an entire semester.

With that group.

You could also see how if you were ever to, let's say, disagree with the norm, you might be deeply and quickly quelled and suppressed.

And that's that's what often these types of community situations can do.

On the other hand, they can become very safe for people and people can really feel like they can share and you know, be themselves, and that can be really cool.

If done well, it could be perfect.

Unfortunately, Evergreen does have a very radical side of it, made famous by Brett Weinstein in the past handful of years, who did not participate in the infamous Day of Presence Day of Absence.

I've talked about that many times because it was so popular and because everybody was talking about it because I went there.

I went there.

Nobody really had to participate in day of absence or day of presence, and what those ares One day, like all of the people of color are not there, they don't go to school, or they don't work.

They go to work and they don't show up.

And then the next day, like all of the white people don't go and so I don't remember which day is which day, but that's what it is.

And I just didn't care because I was busy doing things and that didn't matter.

And let's remember I was becoming a revolutionary at the time, and I still didn't participate in that because I didn't care.

So you really didn't matter if you did or not, to the point where, fast forward to just a few years ago at Evergreen State College, Brett Weinstein was driven out of his profession and his career by students who were so upset that he wouldn't leave on the day when white people were supposed to leave.

That's how radical it's become.

It was radical enough when I was there, it's gone so much further down this road of hatred and lack of inclusion.

Actually, you know, it's cool.

It's cool to celebrate all of these diverse things.

It's cool, like I said, to have Native American art and all that sort of stuff.

It's cool to do things in an alternative way.

Until you start hating, until you start destroying.

You start destroying people's lives because they don't agree with you, as we've seen this past week, which can eventually lead to murder, assassination and political assassination of Charlie Kirk and the like and more.

Whatever you think about who maybe did it, or why they did it, or what went on, we're going to not because we automatically buy it, but because we're looking at the narrative.

We're going to stick to the narrative that this was Tyler Robinson who pulled off a shot from a decent distance, but not a difficult distance.

If you've shot rifles before and are any even remotely good kind of marksman, if you're a hunter, for example, that would be a very easy shot.

And you know that this is the person who did this, that this person perhaps became radicalized at the university level, and that this person also is in a relationship with a trans person and into leftistant trans sorts of ideologies as well as anti capital list types of ideologies as well.

Revolutionary ideologies are Marxist ideologies.

Nebulously, we could say, so that might turn out to be different than what's actually true.

Right, this isn't all figured out yet and done and with like nails in the coffin yet, but that's what we're going with for now.

That's the story for now, and so yeah, so we're you know, if that's the case, Like, this is definitely something that could have been a kid who started out with his Republican family as obvious he had and maybe even had a pretty tight knit family, and then went to college and very very quickly became more and more and more radicalized separate from his home identity in his home sort of culture, and for many, many reasons.

But one of those reasons is the radicalization that happens on university campuses.

So I'm kind of enamored with this guy Duck mascot.

By the way, I never got to see the guy Duck mascot when I was there.

I just knew that our mascot was Guy Duck, which I thought was so ironic and amazing.

It's such a hipster thing, right, so it's very attractive to young people.

So anyways, so this is Evergreen.

Evergreen is pretty radical.

And here's an example of some of the things you can find at Evergreen, which, again, this has become mainstream now.

At the time this was kind of like only Evergreen and maybe the not Woodring, Oh what is it up in Bellingham, Washington.

Well, anyways, the other Evergreen like college that's also in Washington state.

Those two places you would find things like this, and most of the other colleges you would not.

You would not.

You maybe find a tiny niche like separate, little like few credits you could get somewhere on some of these things.

But let's see, some of these are pretty average, right.

Agriculture studio and music production, archaeology, these types of things, and it quickly starts to get into some of the other stuff climate and environmental justice, for once, climate action and policy, coast Salish wool weaving.

That's literally an academic certificate you can get at Evergreen State College.

It's cool.

I'm not against it.

I'm just saying like, yeah, so communication is fine.

You know, some of these things again, very very normal stuff.

And I'll say also, Evergreen, at least when I went, had one of the best science programs in the country, and they were actually one of the only college that was working on phages and the benefits of phages in the body.

And that's still a really revolutionary scientific approach to disease.

So really cool things can happen even at hippie, dippy, really radical places.

Just you know, let's remember that.

That's why you can find so many actually normal, sort of seeming things here.

But here's one El Camino LATINX or LATINX whatever, just say studies, Latin American studies and multi lingual education.

That's one path, by the way, that's one education path there.

So it's like a thing you can major in.

It's not just a class they offer.

These are all potential majors and minors.

Environmental Justice, environmental solutions, person education program, fiber arts.

Some of these aren't as revolutionary as others, they're just interesting.

We had food justice.

Food justice is an entire major or minor you can choose at Evergreen.

I will give you also a little insight here.

You can literally major or minor in anything at Evergreen.

You can make up anything and make it your major or your minor.

And then you can even design your own credits and classes, and then you can take them by yourself, with just a person who you report to once a week and tell them what you've learned, what you've taught yourself.

Again, I actually love that.

I think that'd be fantastic for people like me who are incredibly motivated, intelligent and already know what we're doing right.

For everyone else who doesn't, who wasn't you know, raised that way or didn't come in that way with that level of like confidence and clarity and you know, motivation, this is horrible, actually, And there's I have friends who have graduated from Evergreen State College with nothing.

They have hundreds and hundreds of credits, and it makes nothing.

They just have a mishmash of credits that don't make anything, and nobody cares, and their degree is in nothing, and you can get they made up a name for their degree, but nobody cares because you go to some other college or you go to some job and you're like, I have a degree in cot Salish wool leaving and they're like, oh okay, I mean like, what are you useful?

You're doing anything useful?

And the answer is no.

You can go on forever evergreen making up your classes, making up your majors and minors.

And if it's not this way anymore, I would be surprised because it had been that way its entire existence, and it was that way last time I checked it.

It was definitely that way the whole time I was there.

In fact, I used that system and I made up my own classes frequently because they wouldn't be offering the classes I needed for the degree I needed.

The degree I needed was a real degree, and I wanted to get it done and go do other stuff.

As I've said, so I would just say, okay, well I need four credits and you know this type of thing, and so here's the class I proposed to do this and they'd be like okay, and then I'd do it and I'd get the credits by myself.

So food justice is not one of those that someone just made up.

This is one they actually offer enough.

People might have made it up long enough that they were like, let's let's go with this, right, that may be how that came about gender sexuality and queer studies.

We've got, Oh, we've got so much more.

I'm sure we're just at L.

I guess L and M is all the normal stuff, I should say, traditional stuff.

Yeah, maybe we saw all the weird stuff already.

I'm just lucking to see trauma informed engagement and healing.

Well, that would be great.

But yeah, writing trauma healing and resilience as well.

Not bad.

Oh, not a bad thing at all, not necessarily traditional.

So you know some of those are a bit out there.

That's evergreen.

That's evergreen for you.

Here's the course catalog as well, back from two thousand and three when I was going there, and wow, it's a lot.

Hopefully you can still see it.

I have to zoom this because it's so small, documenting the Northwest, Equal Opportunity Engaging Cuba.

Uh oh, this is all mixed in with teacher names too, so annoying.

The good life and the good society growing up global none of these are horrible.

Again, I don't want to bash it too much because there's really good things about this model.

There's really good things.

But like I said, I if you don't know exactly what you're doing, I mean, here's queer looks, queer books.

You could take classes like queer looks, queer books, and underwater basket weaving, as they always joke, but actually you could.

You could take classes like this the whole time and end up with a degree in nothing politics and ideologies from the America's politics power in the media.

I'm like, if I taught any of these classes, they'd be amazing.

But I know how they teach it there, And I should say also actually have really good teachers who taught in a constructivist methodology for the most part, which is actually the best way to teach, you know, as a teacher who as a master's in actual teaching, not just education generally or whatever, but in teaching itself, like how to teach human beings things.

Constructivism is the best way.

And it's essentially where you say, here's some stuff, what do you think about it?

What are you going to do with it?

And you just help people do things with it.

And actually people learn the most this way, So you're never telling them what to think, You're teaching them how to think, and that's the best way.

And so I did have most of my teachers in the evening and weekends programs who were like that, and so we have a lot of conversations and things like this.

I'll tell you though, one of the things I found in this catalog was the class I took in two thousand and three.

One of the classes which is called Identity, Power and Privilege, and it's exactly what you would expect that class title to be.

It was three days and three credits somehow imagine that, I don't know, three days and three credits, and it was about identity, power and privilege.

The entire class, mind you, was me and about twenty other people sitting in a room for eight hours at a time each of the three days and just talking about our identities, what power that may or may not give us in our society, and who does or doesn't have privilege between us.

It was like sitting in the most ridiculous struggle session of your life forever, struggle sessions by the way, or what Marxist and Communists call browbeating you until you give it and just say that you agree.

And unfortunately, when you do this with people who are generally unwell, immature, naive, like a lot of college students are, it gets ridiculous.

I was actually I look back and I'm so proud of this one person who was such a problem for everyone at the time, who was like, you don't you don't know what I am?

And people are like, well you're white.

And they're like, you don't know if I'm white.

And they're like, well you look white.

You know you get to act why you pass as white?

As they say like, well I'm not white.

You don't get to tell me i'm white.

And this is the sort of like flip.

I could tell they were doing it too, like they were like, Oh, I'm gonna play this.

If you're gonna be this ridiculous, can we get three credits to sit here and talk about if we're white or not, if it matters or not, and who has power or not?

And it's cool.

I learned some things from people like I didn't know, for example, until that day that there were that it was hard for black people to find makeup, for example, or that it could be depending on where they lived.

I had no idea, So there was things I didn't know that people went through.

You know that I got a window and this that's not bad?

Is it worth three credits?

Probably not.

The text that we used also is quite radical, and it's I found it here on archive dot org Privilege, Power and Difference, Privilege, Power and Difference.

And so you can read the whole text here for free if you want to.

It's two hundred and twelve pages, but I'll just read you the contents so you get an idea of what this class consisted of.

Again, all we actually did was sit around and talk to each other about our identity and privilege for twenty four hours.

But we were outside of that time reading this text.

And the idea is you had to read the whole text and prove that you had read it, and you get the credits right.

So it starts with Rodney King's question, why can't we all just get along?

Right?

Or is that his question?

It says we're in trouble.

We can't talk about it if we can't use the words, And I think that's talking about using the words of race like black, white, you know, or our various ethnicities or backgrounds, and says the trouble we're in privileged power and difference.

Difference is not the problem.

It says, Oh, did you know difference isn't our problem?

Like, yeah, everything's different from everything else.

It's the nature of reality.

Of course, it's not the problem mapping differences.

Who are we?

And this is where you're supposed to map out your difference?

Is this book?

If not this book, it was in this class, I believe it's in this book where it literally like, has you tabulate how many identity points you have?

How many privilege points you have, and how many I don't know what oppression points you have.

I'm not joking.

So I had to sit there and be like, Oh, I'm a woman, so I have an impression point, but I appear white to people, and so I have a privilege point, but my culture is not actually white.

And so I sort of almost kind of lose that privileged point, but not really because I still pass as white and I was kind of a Christian grandpa.

That wasn't my identity and I didn't get to claim it anymore.

So I kind of had an oppression point there, but it was sort of a neutralized one.

I'm not kidding.

It was this retarded and I we counted it all up, right, Oh, I have a disability, So now I have an oppression point there, even though I'm quite capable and able and no one knows about any of my disabilities.

I have more than one, So I had a couple of points there.

So I ended up having all of these points of oppression.

Before I went into this class, I did not think of myself as oppressed.

And this is radicalization in itself.

I've already in a class, gotten credits for, been rewarded for, and been rewarded in the group for it, right, Because if you have any oppression, everyone's like, oh, you poor thing, congratulations, right, And so I've been sort of already like emotionally mentally drawn into this ideology that who I am is creating oppression in the world, and it has created opression my whole life and I'm only now noticing it.

Right.

I actually grew up with some of these narratives that like women are oppressed and there's you know, all these things.

So I wasn't totally foreign that that might be a thing, but now I was forced to literally tabulate it all and give myself scores and be like, here's how oppressed I am and internalize that, right and again in this type of a setting, even in this case being a little different from those semester long like, same group.

The whole time we knew we were going to be twenty four hours in this room with these people.

So if you're not strong minded and you're not willing to speak up, and you're not willing to play that game that one person's playing, it's like hond of you know, I'm white, right, Like, if you're not able or willing to do those things, you're going to just get pushed along anyways.

And so you're going to be even more likely to be like, Okay, well this is my new ideology, right, here's what I accept now about myself and everyone else.

And so if you're white, and you're a Christian, and you're a male, and you're any even remotely not poor in this class, you are like equivalent to Satan.

You are the bad guy.

You are the one doing all the oppressing.

Everything in life is built for you.

You have all the privilege.

And never mind that you might have felt, just like the rest of us, many oppressions, many and large, and many failings of the system, or many failings of life or society, or many hurts visited upon you by other people or your parents or other things.

Because that's life.

And it actually doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, or white or black or whatever, but in this class of matters.

So if you have all those privileged points, even if you feel like, well, I don't feel great, I don't feel like I've been given everything.

I don't feel like my life's been easy, They're like, oh, well, no, you just don't know your privilege because you've never lived in the other shoes of these people who are right, who have all these privilege oppression points.

You've never experienced that, so you just don't even realize how good you have it.

So now you're you're internalizing this shame in this guilt.

Oh, I didn't know I was so bad.

I didn't know I was so bad and that I had it so good.

Right.

I thought I actually, like, didn't have it so great, and that I was a pretty good person.

But no, it turns out I'm real bad and I have it really good, right, So you're already internalizing all this just in this very short class.

This is just one class.

This is just three credits out of I don't remember.

How many do you get?

Ninety one, hundred and twenty, I don't remember, but just three.

But I didn't have a class at Evergreen that didn't have this exact same narrative built into it in some way, except the classes I made myself.

They might not have, but everything else did in some way.

And so that was Evergreen, right, this is college.

So I was already starting to get sort of radicalized and sort of like indoctrinated into this system of thinking.

And there was no real questioning it.

There's no real science to this.

You can't prove that this is true, but it's presented as such fact, and it's presented in ways where like, well, of course you didn't notice it before.

Now it's built into the system you were meant to never notice.

Right, So what is privilege?

Privilege is a paradox.

And that's just this chapter that points out like, you might not feel privilege, but you are right.

You might feel like, oh, life than kind of hard, but nope, it's been easy for you.

Like this sort of thing.

It's it's a mental gymnastics, let me tell you.

And then it goes into capitalism, class, and the matrix of domination.

No subtleties here how capitalism works, it says, this is the chapter exactly about how capitalism is built to steal money and value from everybody and concentrated at the top.

It's not true.

The way it is carried out might end up that way in many cases, but it just isn't.

This isn't actually what capitalism is designed to do, and it actually isn't always what happens even in capitalism.

But in this book, it's just fact and it's just true, and you just yep, that's the way it is.

Capitalism and class, capitalism, difference and privilege, race and gender.

And this is a chapter about how, depending on your race and your gender, you may be rewarded or not by capitalism.

You may be exploited or not by capitalism.

You're more likely to be exploited if you are not white, and if you are a female.

Just as fact, you know, you can pull out all of these sorts of facts that make those things seem like fact.

You can do that, You can be like, well, then, why why are all the black people a little poor, like why you're black people tend to have more poverty and more crime.

It has to be because capitalism made it that way and everybody hates black people, right, couldn't possibly be anything else that none of the other possibilities are even explored in a text like this.

And if you were writing an honest text, you would explore the other possibilities and at least give them their fair share of data points or possibility, you know, suggestions or references or something.

But that isn't what this class is for.

This class is to just present you with the one thing that if you don't believe, it's because you're the indoctrinated one.

Actually you're the one who's ignorant.

You don't understand your own privilege.

You're taking it for granted.

You're a racist.

You've internalized the racism, you've internalized the sexism, you've internalized the classism.

And all of these things are the only things that are They're the only things that matter.

Is what class you are, what race you are, what sex you are, what your sexual orientation is, what your religion is.

And again I want to emphasize, you are cooler or you have more oppression points.

You get away with more, or you get more attention and pity the more you have those things, so the more you're like, oh, I'm disabled, and I am not a white person, and I am a woman, and I all of this stuff, and I am oh I'm gay too, by the way, and like anything else you can pile on.

Now you're the coolest person here.

You have the most oppression points.

You've won the oppression Olympics.

So you can see how you might want to be labeled as mentally ill, or you might want to become trands so that you're no longer a male or a female or whatever it is that might be messing up your privilege points here.

Otherwise someone else gets to come along and be like, you're privileged and I'm not, so you better be nice to me, do what I want, bow down to be.

History has oppressed me and you must correct it, making privilege happen, avoidance, exclusion, rejection, and worse.

This is just Mora says the trouble with the trouble, how systems of privilege work.

What can we do?

Become part of the police solution.

And it's funny right after this, you know, after Evergreen and I went into my graduate program and it was much less indoctrination like altogether, it was much more open ended, and there was many people of many different philosophies and economic you know, beliefs and religious stitch.

Oneage just was not in any way uniform.

And so that was really good.

But even in that we talked about how the benefits of voluntary segregation and lunch room this is a teaching program, right, the benefits of voluntary segregation, the benefits of kids sitting at table with their like cultures.

So there's like there's the you know, African American culture table, and there's the black kids but who were raised in like sort of white culture you might call it, if for lack of a better term, there's their table.

And here's the you know, Latino table, and there's the Asian table, and right, you can see this in lunch rooms everywhere actually, and here we are talking about how that's actually good for students.

It's good for them to be of like cultures and to be accepted right exactly for what they are.

And it's like, oh, well, at Evergreen that was bad, and we're supposed to force everyone into mixed tables and like force this sort of cultural mixing and then also at the same time make sure everyone at the table was the nicest to the people who had the most oppression points and right, very different.

But anyways, at Evergreen that was not what we were talking about in general.

So at Evergreen I became, you know, somewhat radicalized by all of this.

At the same time, I was exposed to the Revolutionary Communist Party USA.

Here's their website.

It's as bad as it looks.

It's looked this way and most of my life and you know, just recently again Charlie Kirk was assassinated for his beliefs, and Bob of Akean, their cult of personality leader and the Revolutionary Communist Party, who's absolutely an asient.

There's like no other possibility at all.

But they have this whole mythology built around him, like, oh, he escaped the FBI and the CIA, and he lives on a boat in the middle of the Pacific because there they can't get him.

I'm not joking.

So Bob of Acan is somehow still alive and talking.

He wrote just on September twelfth.

Yes, this Trump mega fascism really is that bad, and if it is not driven from power.

Soon it will get far worse.

Okay, here's just reading that what I know now, I can see just how much he plays in two exactly what they want.

This is absolutely an op.

There's no way that's would exist this long otherwise it's sodiculous.

I asked them that at the time too.

I was like, hold up, you're telling me there's this guy who's like the a leader of this party and that he's been around for decades, but we're such a dangerous threat that like we're oppressed all the time, but that guy's still alive.

Like did you know how many people they've assassinated?

Dude, if your guy was a threat, he'd be dead.

You're like, oh no, he's so smart.

He got away, Like you guys are a little bit crazy.

Ah.

So that was just last week, just in response to Charlie Kirk's death that he wrote that, so still stoking the fires.

But you know, the Revolutionary Communist Party I started hanging out with because of anti war protests.

I would go to anti war protests and they would be there and they'd be like, you know, could you want to help.

We're trying to help the black community get more involved in the anti war protests.

You want to help us go to the black communities and pass out flyers.

And I'd be like yeah, because I was just like idealistic, like let's stop this war.

But as I got into it, I was also then like, Oh, what's this communism thing all about?

And what's this revolution thing all about?

And I'm like reading the literature and I'm like, oh, yeah, capitalism is bad, right, I just learned that Evergreen and oh yeah, all of this privilege is bad.

We got to tear this apart.

This is why war happens.

If I'm anti war, then I'm definitely anti capitalist.

Right.

We wouldn't have North from Grumman and all of these, you know, profiteers of war if we didn't have capitalism.

Despite that, you can look at the history of communists and seeing like they've got war too.

They've also got people who were rich off of it.

But anyways, I wasn't the best history student at that time, and so I got into it.

So I would go to more and more protests and I do more and more work with the Revolution Karmonies Party.

Until then, I was just calling myself a communist.

I was wearing communists clothes not kidding.

I'd get patches and buttons, and I would buy shirts that had the Revolution and Communist logo on it, and oh god, yeah, it was like a whole thing.

But part of what they did, right, that is so smart is they'd be like, oh, Lindsey, well actually they called me Corey.

This is where I got the pen name Corey, because we all used fake names as though that matter.

I'm not kidding you, which at the time you're like, oh, I'm in like a I'm in like a group where things are dangerous and you have to use fake names, like like it seemed stupid to me, but I was also kind of like enamored by it.

I like I had both perspectives.

I was like, this is pretty like if anyone wanted to know who we were, they could figure it out.

But also like, it's pretty cool I get to choose a fake name.

So actually they'd call me Corey.

But you know, Corey, Oh, you're you're like so good.

You're so good at writing where you write us an article for the revolution Cary News newspaper.

So now my right, I'm like, oh, I could be a published author.

Yeah, I'll write you an article.

What do you want to know about.

Oh, you write about you know what?

I don't even know.

One of them was about abortion, having an abortion and how much I loved it and how everyone should always be able to have abortions right, or I'm sure I wrote something about like how college campuses needed to be like more active in the revolutionary whatever and who knows what else up to.

Up until a couple of years ago, I could find these articles still.

They were published under Corey Sharman q U O R R I quite specific spelling that no one else in the world has ever had.

So is that what Bob Vakan looks like this whole time, I've never known.

So I could still find it, but they scrubbed it or they changed their layout or it's hard for find and if you find it, cool, send it to me.

But so I started writing for them.

So I was a writer for the Revolutionary Communist Party, so that felt cool too.

So now I was like invulved, I'm going to protest and I'm like writing things.

And then one day they're like, hey, can you get up with the loud speaker and you know, tell everyone whatever.

I was like, Oh, I get to be the person who says the thing, oh, allowdspeaker and whatever, and it was just like directions or some organizational stuff that was nothing.

That was the first time.

Then we had one of the bigger protests.

The biggest protests I was part of was fifty thousand strong.

It was I think around two thousand and three.

It was in Seattle, and it was the anti war protest.

Was huge.

It was huge, but one of the still very big ones that we did had you know, four to ten thousand people.

I don't know exactly.

The area we could see was clearly at least four thousand people, and then there was supposedly more people in the streets outside of the park we were in.

It was in downtown Seattle, and they were like, hey, what can you get up really quick and just feel like, you know, five or ten minutes was just the story about your abortion and how necessary it was and how it's helping you live a better life, and how everyone should have access to abortion.

And I was like, oh, I'm not like a public speaker, like talking in front of people terrifies me.

And they're like, oh, it's just quick to do it here, and they like push me up and now speaking in front of thousands of people, and they're all cheering when I say something, and they're all like reacting to me, and I don't want to be in front of a crowd of people.

But at the same time, you feel pretty cool when you get back down and you're like, whoa, I just talked to four thousand people and they all liked it.

You feel something, right?

Is it power?

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Is it?

Speaker 1

Whatever?

It's an ego at least, So this is like a little bit intoxicating.

This is not by accident.

You can actually look at this as like a you know, you could you could make like the diagram of grooming young people into radical organizations and it would go exactly like I just described.

First, you'd be in just a class and you'd be I don't know, I don't really feel that way, but like everybody would be like, oh, yes you do, because this and a book and your professor would all reinforce it, and you'd be like, oh, maybe this is really true.

And then you might be at a protest just because you're anti war.

It's a very normal sentiment to have.

And now all of a sudden you're in a revolutionary communist organization.

Now all of a sudden, you're moving up with the ranks, and you're someone who writes for them and speaks at their events and organizes their protests.

So I'm getting into this whole thing.

Well, you know, from time to time, they'd be like, we got to step it up, we got to like maybe even bring in some like fire and some whatever, some molotavs, And I'm like, whoa, Like what do what with them?

Oh?

We just you know, things are getting heavy, and like we got to stop this war, and we're not going to do it without that.

We need some events, like we need some attention.

Like I'd be like, well, don't count me in, because again, luckily I still had like a sense of self that had something to do with morality, that had something to do with my soul, and so I was able to say, no, I don't want to throw them all the cocktails at people or like cause any harm really to any even structures, let alone people.

Like you know, we were out once and we were doing just a really small thing on the Seattle Community College campus which is right there in the district whose name I can't remember, Capitol Hill, which was like you know, especially at that time, it was much more actually gay and actually very poor and now it's been super gentrified and it's like flashy and they're like, yeah, it's the gay neighborhood, and they're like, well, it was actually gay before.

Now it's just has a rainbow walkways and like ten million dollar apartments.

But it was pretty grungy and sketchy then.

And we were running around at the Seattle Community College campus doing something.

I don't even remember what the activity it was, but we were agitating for something and yelling in loud speakers and trying to get college students excited.

And all of a sudden, one of our leaders I look back at now, I know it was an agent, but I didn't understand that it's time.

I knew agents would come to our meetings right right, Like I knew agents were of the law, official agents where the law would like infiltrate and try to like get information and see what we were doing.

But the left hand doesn't know what the right hand does, they say, right, And so there were other agents that were actually like in the organization itself, And I look back, I know who those people were, but at the time I just thought they were really I was even like, how do you guys do this full time?

Like how do you get money?

Like I don't ask too many questions.

They don't like that.

And so this person was at this event and he was like, oh my god, you guys go, oh, we gotta go.

And he started running and everybody started running, and I was like, why are we running?

Like what's actually happening?

And nothing was happening, but everyone was running.

So I was kind of like jogging after them, but like not really committed, because I was I was just I was really questioning, like what was happening right now, and what was the motivation for running and what was the goal?

And he ran into the college.

Well classes were happening, and they were like banging on doors and windows and screaming and like throwing leaflets and like causing chaos.

And I was just like, okay, I'm out, and I went down like a different direction and just left and went home.

But I was starting to be like I don't like this organization anymore.

I'm just anti war, Like I don't even know if I'm into all of this.

And very shortly on the heels of that, I went to one of the many meetings that you go to if you're around this sort of organization, and you know there's free food, so college student again, there's like a little little ways they try to like pull people in.

And I went to one of these meetings and they were saying something about, oh, yeah, you know, in the Glorious Revolution.

I'm literally serious.

They talk like cult members that use all of this audiological speech.

But in the Glorious Revolution, when we have to put people into re education camps for you know, their spiritual beliefs or whatever, it's going to be you know, difficult to find, like da da da.

And I was like hold up, like what, well, yeah, what did you think we were going to do, Like when you have a revolution, you have to like have re education camps for the people who are capitalist rooters.

And I was like yeah, but you're saying like spiritual people.

They're like, yeah, you know, religious people, Christians, Muslims, whatever, but you know also spiritual people like terror readers or whatever.

And I was like, I'm a spiritual person.

I'm a Tarot reader.

I'm someone who talks to God or has this connection, you know.

And they're like, oh, yeah, you'll go in the camp dead ass, like deadpan, Like there's no problem with this statement, Like this person's both going to help us carry out the revolution and then also be put into a camp immediately afterwards because they're spiritual.

No joke, like, oh you have to do is not be spiritual.

I'm like, okay, but I am.

I am spiritual.

So the re education camp is meant to force you into the beliefs of the stiff.

So this is how I broke for it, because I was like, well, that's deeply and utterly in opposition to the core of who I am.

You know, I can say I'm anti war and I'm this, and I want to help you get poor black people into the political movement, and I want to go to college campuses and inspire people because those things are something my heart can agree with.

But when you then say I have to enslave or in prison or force re educate spiritual people, I'm like, okay, no, I am actually done.

And that was the final straw.

And I never went to another media.

I never went to another than I ever read another book.

They definitely tried to keep me coming and like where'd you go, and like we need you and like here read this book and all that stuff, and I was just like, no, I'm done.

That was it.

That was my that was my you know, boundary that I'd come up against.

They're still going strong clearly.

And not only that, but Antifa is bigger than ever.

And Antifa when I was a communist was also around, but you can't even find record of it now.

So again, two thousand and three, two thousand and six, I didn't go to an event ever where Antifa wasn't.

Antifa was one hundred percent there.

They had black flags, they called themselves Antifa, and and this, you know, all the things you can find are like two thousand and three, Antifa was not prominent.

They didn't exist.

The only thing that existed, they say, it was this like anti this AI, anti racist action network.

I'm like, okay, sure, as a fully CIA infiltrated like official organization that can accept money and that organizes nationwide.

Antifa didn't exist.

But Antifa existed as an underground movement called Antifa that was close to the Black Block anarchists, who are the ones that, by the way, are the most infiltrated of the anarchists and are used to cause chaos as agent provocateurs in uh, you know, protests and the like.

They were very close Antifa and Black Blok were very close.

They never showed up separate from each other, and they were always coordinating.

So underground.

Yes.

Antifa also back then was mostly youth, whereas the Revolution of Commis Party was mostly older people with some youth, Antifa was like mostly youth, and they were mostly willing to commit violence.

If somebody at a protest was going to break something or start a fire or throw them all to off or like get crazy, it was going to be Antifa or Black Block or both, and you knew it.

So I knew Antifa existed.

I knew that, like I wasn't into their tactics and I wasn't in their organization, but they were there every time.

But if you tell people this, they think you're a liar or they think you're misremembering for some reason, because the official story is Antifa didn't exist until the twenty ten's, it's like a decade later.

So really interesting to find that out that Antifa didn't exist, even though I saw it.

So I told the AI like, well, I worked with them and I saw them and they were there at every protest, and they're like, oh, well, here's why there's different kinds of anti fascism.

Movement, so I know there's not there's one.

It's Antifa.

They called themselves Antifa.

Then I had to ask what is antiphon.

They had to say anti fascists to me had the same fist and everything, the same color scheme of black, black, white, and red.

By the way, it's also what the revolutionary communists and socialist parties use.

So you know, I get told that I'm a liar by AI and by official things, but that was actually real.

It was actually there at the time, and that's actually how it was.

They were the most likely to be violent, that is, disaffected, and the most the youngest people at these types of events and protests, so they were there.

I don't know why people don't know't accept it, but it's true.

And this is again, like I said, there's a playbook of how you get people, especially young people.

It doesn't work on people who have already decided who they are and figured out, you know, their identity actually in the world and understood society and politics in their place, and are mentally and emotionally generally for the most part.

Well, it doesn't work on those people.

So you have to go after people who are young, impressionistic idealistic, who want attention, who want to be heard, who want to be seen as you know, productive or important.

You have to go after those people, and you have to do all of these things.

So targeting, in fact, disillusioned youth is the number one way disillusioned youth so impoverished youth, youth that have experienced trauma.

I was definitely in that category, by the way, but luckily I had just enough wellness to get out.

But it's definitely true.

So when you're at a protest, they even would tell us, like, don't even bother talking to the rich, well dressed kids.

I would do it anyway because I was into debate.

I didn't actually just want to like indoctrinate people.

I wanted to talk to them about like why they thought, what they thought, and what they were doing and what I was doing, and who amongst us is right right, And so I liked that.

So I'd be like arguing with the Republican kids and they'd be off targeting like the poor kids to try to get them in.

But it's the thing they do, right, like don't even bother talking to them, talk to these people instead.

They knew what they were doing, they knew what they were doing framing the narrative.

They frame complex problems in an easy to digest ways.

Right, Oh, of course your life has been hard because capitalism.

Well it's a little more complex than that, actually a lot more complex than that.

But it's so easy to be like, yeah, my life has been really hard.

Let's blame capitalism instead of my parents' possible failures or my family historically like multi generationally is possible failures, right, or any other types of things.

Let's just let's just dumb it down and blame capitalism.

It's easy to grasp onto, it's easy to hold, it's easy to then run with mentorship and relationship buildings.

So you did.

It's almost like, aa, you've got like a sponsor, You've got like your person you check in with.

They give you the literature, they give you your pamphlets to hand out, they give you the books for you to read to indoctrinate yourself, like they're in charge of your indoctrination essentially, And so we had ours in the mind.

Was that one that, like I said, I've understood now as an agent whose real name I never knew.

Right, I see now the benefit for them of us not having our names involved our real names.

It'd be so awkward that I'd be walking around with my friends in Seattle and somebody'd be like Corey, and I'd like turn and they'd be like, hey, Corey, how are you.

My friends were like, who the fuck is Corey?

Dude?

Who are you?

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Like, Oh no, no, it's just like, yeah, it is actually really weird you're write.

I just try to God, I'm not in a cult hierarchy, internal hierarchy moving people up the hierarchy.

Like I said, us versus them mentality, which by the way, isn't just us versus the capitalist US versus the government, US versus the economic system.

It's also us versus anyone who isn't a communist right, US versus people who protest in different ways in group out group, And like, oh yeah, you know what, You're gonna be even more.

Speaker 1

Of a writer.

Eventually, you're gonna write books for us.

Eventually you're gonna be so big Corey.

By the way, you're gonna speak at these rallies.

You're gonna get higher up, Like there's this path to power for you.

And again I wasn't like drunk on power.

It was drunk on ego.

And drunk on people seeming to think that I mattered, which is not something we have enough of for youth in our culture.

So, you know, disenfranchised youth trauma tries to youth youth that haven't been given enough lover attention.

That's almost everybody, by the way, it's almost everybody in our culture.

Almost all of our youth don't have enough attention, support love, and that's also what drives them into transing themselves.

So these things aren't separate topics.

Actually this is you know, I had Simon Essler on my show a handful of years ago, and he has made this fantastic film called Cut Daughters of the West, and this explores the transing of our youth, and most interestingly, it points out how young girls are the most likely to become trans.

You know, as adults, it's more likely to be males to female.

As young people, it's most likely to be by an overwhelming majority.

It's something like eighty percent of trans kids are young females who are transitioning to male.

And he goes into how this has just conveniently matched the numbers exactly of young girls who also seek plastic surgery and other things, or also who just express the desire to not be sexualized and avoid sexualization as children, and so he ties this to this desire not for girls to actually identify as boys, like they wouldn't do it normally, but they live in this highly sexualized culture in which they aren't getting enough of what they need and they don't see any other way out, and so they become men.

So a really interesting look at the trans thing, and the trans thing, like I said, is also a problem with kids who don't have enough love, kids who don't have enough attention.

In fact, it's a problem with adults who don't have enough love and attention, because it's often adults who are encouraging their children to be trans, even if their children don't want to be trans.

I've seen it happen in people who are exceptionally close to me and them doing it to their children.

I'm not just thinking this is a thing that happens.

I'm watching it happen so unwell adults who never got enough of what they needed, or creating these unwell children who aren't getting enough of what they needed.

And it's the same type of people who would fall into cults like the Revolutionary Communist Party or ideologies that are revolutionary or extreme, and that might even find themselves running through the hallways of a college that isn't there, you know, while people are bashing on the walls and throwing things, wondering, Oh my god, how did I get here?

Because I didn't have enough love, enough attention, and enough self confidence, enough self esteem to say, oh, I don't need to speak at your event to feel valuable.

I don't need you to publish my writing to know that it's worthy.

I don't need to be part of your organization to know that I'm helping the world.

I did need that, right, and so unfortunately, that's where I found it.

And this is where we have these problems.

And this is why we're seeing the transing of kids.

This is where we're seeing the radicalization of young people.

And this is why you universities have gotten away with becoming more and more radical and radicalizing their youth because it is the most addictive point of view, and it's the easiest thing to fall into this victim culture and say, oh, it's all capitalism, or oh, it's all Charlie kirk Er, Oh it's all Republicans and Christians.

That's why my life is hard.

That's why I've never felt enough love, That's why I've never felt accepted.

That's why I feel scared about the future.

That's what it is.

Too easy, it's too easy.

If you haven't seen this show, or if you haven't listened to the interview with Simon on Rogue Soul, then go back and check that out.

It's definitely they're both worth your time.

And this is this is the crisis, right so that we don't have enough wellness.

We don't have enough love, we don't have enough support, we don't have enough confidence building.

We don't have enough wellness in our adults either.

So of course it's not going to trickle down to our children, and they're going to go looking for something, and unfortunately they're going to find it, and it's going to be in the most destructive ways possible.

There's very few people who are genuinely, lovingly waiting to get all these kids and bring them into some organization that would be better, that would not be self serving or would not be destructive.

That's not as present.

Unfortunately, it's the whole problem.

So we see again I'm not surprisingly at all, and again we're going with what we seem to know is that this Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson had a trans boyfriend and had a furry fixation.

And furry, if you don't know, as a sexual fetish where people dress up as very cartoonish looking animals, and uh, there's often a lot of pedophilia and other really debased sexual things going on in that subculture, by the way.

And so this person had a furry fixation.

It was in a relationship with a trans person, which was a male to female who was a biological male who believed that they're a female and acted like a female.

And so again it's there's not actually a technical problem with wanting to dress up like a cartoonish animal and have sex that that fetish has no technical problem.

That's what you want to do with your adult life.

You feel free, no problem with that.

There's not a technical problem with being a biological male and believing, well, there is a problem without, but there's not a problem with dressing as a female or pretending like you're a female and having sex with your gay lover.

No problem with that.

You're consenting adults.

You get to do what you want.

You can't actually deny either that this movement as we just talked about, is the same as the movements that are radicalizing youth in other ways, in that it prays on immaturity, trauma, a lack of acceptance, a lack of enough love, a lack of confidence, a fear of society or being social or being accepted or being able to be successful in the world.

It prays on all of those things and it pulls them in and it says, here, you don't even actually have to be afraid of sex because you can just put on this furry outfit and just have sex with anybody in this room with a furry outfit on.

Or here, you don't have to worry about how hard it is to find a woman to love, because here's this gay man who will dress up like a woman for you.

Are here, you don't actually have to worry about you know what it actually is that's gone wrong in your life, because it's capitalism.

So come join us.

We're all going to go together and we're going to fight for communism.

We're gonna make the world better.

All of a sudden, you have an identity and you have a group of people, and you feel safe again, and you don't have to confront all of those things that were terrifying to you, and you'll have to do better at anything in life because actually you get this grand excuse.

Oh, it was that I was in the wrong body.

Oh, it's that I'm actually a furry.

Oh it's that it's a I'm a communist.

It's capitalism.

Okay, Well, then everything's gonna be fine, so much easy.

It's just like drugs.

Oh, I don't have to feel things.

I'll just shoot up.

I don't have to deal with this difficult conversation with my family member.

I'll just go get drunk.

Easy to escape, easy to avoid.

Here's this fully packaged community waiting for you, fully accepting of every aspect of your failures and every aspect of the failures of those around you.

Oh and all those emotions you feel, anger and you know, grief, all of these feelings you have, fear.

Oh, we have a solution to all of those.

We're going to make them all better.

So it's very enticing.

It's very enticing for broken people to fall into cults, to communism, to furreeism, to drugs, to they're all the same thing.

They're all the same thing, and they all rely on this external loki of control, which I've talked about many times before too, which is that you truly believe that all of your problems have come from outside of yourself.

You would be happy, in fact, if other people would just do fill in the blank, you would be better.

You would be able to be successful, like everything would be good if that person or all of these people would just do blank.

This is a narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic, cluster b victim mentality sort of belief.

They all go hand in hand, this external loki of control.

It's just saying the location you put the control in your life is outside of yourself, and so you blame, you blame, you never take responsibility because you don't have any because the control in your life doesn't come from you.

So people with internal loki of control have generally had a family that is strong and stable, that gives them at least a decent amount of love and reinforcement.

That's positive.

That's it.

That was the end of the equation.

By the way, those are the people who tend to have internal loki of control.

It happens in other places, and that's maybe all as by accident.

But the best and easiest way to create this is by having exactly that, a strong and stable family that loves you and supports you.

And the people who don't end up being in all of these things that we've talked about radicalized in college campuses easily and pretty consistently and completely, or by cults like the Revolutionary Communist Party or other political radical ideologies or furry or trans or all of the above, because people like this exist.

If this is not the person who shot Charlie Kirk, great, but they still exist, and they are people who are radicalized politically and furries and or trans and possibly also high and definitely have the external loki of control our victims and have decided that you're the one who is in charge, and therefore you might have to pay for what you've done, by the way.

And so another really interesting piece of this in the modern world at least, is the absolute saturation of media, of Internet, of games, of screen time, and how sociopathic and psychopathic and cluster b and narcissistic that makes people, or at least it supports those types of attitudes.

So not everything I'm talking about are diagnosable disorders, but they're on the spectrum or they share characteristics with those diagnosable disorders.

I talk about how I live in a psychopathic society, and it encourages psychopathy and psychopathy adjacent behaviors and coping mechanisms and ways of interacting which is to not but right, and those go all the way through the cluster B personality disorder.

Types of activities or beings are the ways of being orientations.

So this screen time overload has added to this.

And so it's said, I don't know if it's proven.

I don't know for sure if it's for sure, but people have said this Shooters was deep into Reddit, the discord servers and games.

First person Shooters included deep into that, and if so, again, I'm not like the eighties nineties like blame the mamesic like, but also it actually matters how much time you spend saturated in this world that isn't real.

And so you know, this phenomenon creates people who actually don't really have a high understanding or a feeling of the difference between reality and the screen.

And that's deeply dangerous because no matter what you're seeing on the screen, you're already in some sort of slightly psychopathic relation to it, because you know it's not real.

It can't hurt you, it can't talk back to you, it can't get anywhere.

Here's you can throw anything at it.

And this is why you see people mind they're fighting and they're being horrible, and you're like, well, if you were sitting in a room together, this is not how you'd be acting.

We've all done it.

In fact, I'm sure of it.

I have.

I still do.

Sometimes I have to be like whoa, whoa, whoa, Stop, Just like, what would you say if this person stood right in front of you?

Only say that?

Right, We've all done that.

So there's this unreality, there's this psychopathy, the devoid of empathy, compassion, emotion because you're aware that it's not real and it can't affect you or touch you.

So it gets really one sided.

It gets really, really really gross.

There's more to it than that.

And the way that this AI is summarizing this for is it says is uh.

Excessive time online is caused by a mix of psychological and biological factors, exacerbated by exacerbated by algorithms.

So that's interesting that the AI is actually throwing out that's actually true.

Algorithms are often designed to keep you all longer and to do things that tre or your emotional states more deeply.

So especially anger is easy.

Anger and fear are easy, So a lot of people get stuck in the anger and fear algorithm.

I specifically and intentionally train mind to give me the happiness and helpful energy algorithm.

So you can still you still have some of my emotion, I guess, but it's going to be a good one at least, right And you can do that too.

But the algorithms definitely are attempting to maximize your emotional response and keep you engaged longer.

So it talks about terms like digital overload, doom scrolling, and Internet over exposure syndrome.

Describe the core issue behind this feeling that perhaps the world isn't even real.

Perhaps it's not even real, or I know it's real technically, but I'm so saturated in the unreality of all of the unreal worlds I've spent so much time in my whole life that I no longer have the distinction of my behavior between the real and the unreal.

I will act this as the dissociated psychopathic side of me acts in the unreal world as I do in the real world.

It talks about the psychological and social roots of doom scrolling, negativity bias, and how the algorithms feed you this negative bias to keep you going longer.

This curated and unrealistic comparisons.

Also, everything you see online is possibly through a filter.

It's only what people wanted to show you.

So you're seeing this really skewed version of reality.

Like you're not seeing people go poop or pee or feed themselves.

You're seeing them like vacation and like you know, dance on the roof or what are just like these perfect moments and not the human moments.

The fear of missing out is part of this.

That's another sort of unreality, Like I have to always be knowing what's going on in the world and around me, and otherwise I'm not going to know and right, so you get this information overload you therefore like can't even understand information anymore.

You have nowhere to put it because there's so much of it.

Right.

This is a big one, actually, because then you go out into the world and you're just as like, I don't know what to think or do with any of this, right, Like that's crazy.

This is that feeling of unreality.

You can have increased anxiety and reactivity from being online.

This is part of the light, the optics that like the optogenetics of it, like there's a whole science behind this, and how this negatively affects you creates anxiety and stress in your body, in your cells.

You don't get to choose to not experience that, by the way, that just is what happens.

You can use those glasses in certain like red light, green, blue light, whatever blockers, but you're still going to have some level of it.

And we're surrounded by them disruptive reward systems.

We've got this like dopamine malfunction because we've had more dopamine in the first ten minutes of our day than we used to have in a week or a month, which is really just distorted understanding of what life's stuff feel like.

It disrupts your sleep cycles, your circadian rhythms, your stress responses.

You can literally get cybersickness.

And so this person, like almost everybody, is oversaturated in these things.

And if you didn't start from a place of secure wellness, super right, like just good, stable, confident, all this stuff, good relationships, you didn't start there, you were already disadvantaged and then you oversaturated yourself and have an addiction to the oversaturation, and you've just created this dissociative, psychopathic inability to understand or be real in reality.

I'm not excusing anyone, but this is a large part of what we see when Charlie Kirk gets assassinated again.

Love him, hate him, don't care.

But when a man gets shot live on TV and the whole world sees it, and the reaction of people in the crowd watching it happen is to cheer.

This is why, this is why there's a large part of them that cannot be in reality with us, you know.

And as the injection somehow exacerbating that, did it disconnect people from their souls?

Yeah, perhaps that too, But let's just like stick with what we absolutely know for sure, which is this.

This has done this to people.

This has made life unreal for people.

This has made them incapable of having responses.

I'm not talking about the thing where something bad happens and you laugh because you genuinely are under so much stress and you don't know what to do.

And you might see a child do this or even an adult do it, because it's just in the moment itself.

It's just like too much pressure and people will laugh at things that are really wrong to laugh at, but it's like one person in a large group might do it.

This was lots of people in the crowd cheering when a man was killed in front of them, instantly, no thought time, no pause.

My instant response even to that on a game is ugh, ugh no, like right, let alone when I know it's real and now I have real emotions.

So I have not apparently become oversaturated.

I have not lost myself to this, but so many people have, especially if you're raised with this.

When I was a kid, we had a half hour a day limit on our screen time.

Now what do kids have a seven hour limit?

What's the limit?

Is there a limit all day?

Phone?

Phone?

Phone at school, computers, computers, computers at home?

TV?

TV is eight hours?

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Low?

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I mean, like, I genuinely don't know.

I don't have a kid, and if I did, they wouldn't have that situation in their life.

But what is normal for people?

Probably I'm guessing eight hours is normal.

It's sad I'm sitting here staring at a screen to share this with you.

If you're sitting here possibly scarce staring at the screen to tear it from me.

You know, at least you and I think have an understanding that you and I are real people in a real world, with real lives, real hearts, real souls, and that it matters.

So this is really powerful, This is really deep, and it's a part of the the you know, puzzle of what's going on with the youth who have seemingly chosen in large part to support murder for a political reason and cheer it on and enjoy it and maybe even carry it out.

If it's true that Tyler Robinson did right that radicalization like it, is it a university's fault.

No, are the universities promoting this.

Absolutely, But maybe what's even worse than that is this this screen time, this unreality that sits in for people who spend too much time online, this psychopathy that is naturally built into screen time of every kind.

So, yeah, it causes social and emotional disorders.

We know that it's not just something I'm making up.

It's not just something AI is describing their studies on screen time, TV, social media, all of it, even, no matter what it is, a combination of all of those things causes social and emotional disorders and children.

Sometimes it's because they're literally addicted to it.

They want more of it, and if you take it away from them, they're going to freak out.

Sometimes it's because they are becoming sociopathic, psychopathic, or at least anti social, because they have an easier time dealing with the screen than reality.

Duh.

And so all kinds of mental and emotional disorders are being seen younger and younger kids at higher and higher rates.

Oh and then we throw pharmaceuticals at it and make it worse.

But you know, well, here we are being the worst kind of parents and the worst kind of teachers and the worst kind of role models because we're just letting them be saturated in these worlds that they can't handle.

It is breaking them.

And we're like, oh, yeah, here are some more.

Because we're lazy, because parents are like, oh, it's so hard, it's so hard to spend time with my kid, or even I hear, well, I had to do get things done.

I had to do the dishes into this, so I had to let them do it.

No, make them do it with you, you asshole.

It serves them, it's better for them, but they're going to whine until they stop because you won't give in, and then they'll be like, cool, let's sweep together.

Mom, Like, just get over it and do it.

You're saving your child's life.

A little bit of screen time is fine.

You don't need to make your kid like a luddite.

But you have to have really good boundaries, strict boundaries, and very little.

The brightest and most capable kids I've ever known in this modern age have the same recipe my parents gave me, which was half an hour of screen time a day, no more than that.

You can choose how you do it.

It can be a game, it can be a show.

We don't care.

Half hour, that's it.

On very special occasions we would watch a movie, right, like, that's cool.

No, you don't get a phone, and you don't get a screen in your hand all the time.

And if you do, it has one program and it's the call program.

You can call me from somewhere.

But you don't get to have apps, you don't get to have social media, you don't get to spend time in this false world that ruins you emotionally and mentally.

So that's what you should be like, in my opinion, because that's what the data shows is good for you and your children.

Kids who have too much screen time also have reduced social interaction, which exacerbates all of the mental and emotional disorders that come from it.

They have diminished emotional recognition.

So we were talking about how danger it was dangerous it was to wear masks for a year or more around little infants and toddlers, because it is literally when they're learning how to recognize human emotion and they can't see it if it's covered up by a mask.

And so we're making all of these psychopaths.

We've actually seen that bear out in the studies that that's exactly what we did.

Well, I'm not saying they're all diagnosable psychopaths, but they have psychopathic types of tendencies at a much higher rate than the generation before them.

So we have this as well with screens, diminished emotional recognition.

It's the same reasons, right, this is not real, it's not real on reality, can't hurt me, can't affect me, so I don't need to care about it.

So you get used to and you get desensitized to seeing emotions on a screen, on a movie, on a game, on whatever, on a social media and not caring, not reacting appropriately, not taking it in, and so then when you go to reality and it happens, you have the same response, Oh guy just got shot.

Laugh, that's funny, right, diminished emotional recognition and the normalization of violence.

So if you think this isn't an important conversation in connection with a kid who probably shot a guy at a place, then you're wrong.

Absolutely, Maybe the most crucial it's this and pharmaceuticals are like the number one correlates to the people who are committing violence.

Yeah, there's a reason for that, right, you get radicalized more easily, you commit violence more easily.

So then you can ask the question, so, our children who are raised with moral guidance and a stable, nurturally nurturing family environment more likely to be well adjusted and confident adults, And overwhelmingly all of the studies say yes.

So when you say, like, oh, don't get down on single parents, like nobody's getting down on you or just telling you the facts that you have a much higher likelihood of having a child who's going to be not well adjusted, possibly violent, and very unsuccessful in life.

They will feel worse and do worse at life.

Nobody's necessarily judging, you say, it's just like saying like, yeah, you smoke cigarets, you're probably gonna get cancer.

You have a single family, single parent family, you're going to have less likelihood for success for your children the end, you know, gay parents whatever.

Get into that we can get into another time.

I've already done shows on this, but at least, let's say you have to have a two parent household that is stable, meaning you have an emotional wellness at the adult level that keeps stability emotionally, mentally and physically in the home.

Your kid knows that they get to come home and that the things they have will be there, and that everyone there will be stable, and they get to live in this environment that it builds trust, it builds confidence, it builds a sense of self and identity.

And these kids don't end up in the Communist Party, and they don't end up as furries, and they don't end up as trans kids.

And it's not because their parents were like, you better not be a communist furry lah like, that's not why.

It's because they weren't looking for anything to fill the whole of what they didn't get.

And yes, there are kids in those groups that had two parents and had a seemingly stable home.

And we'll get to that, but this is the one of the highest predictors of success and wellness for your kid is having a stable family setting.

It's also you know, parenting styles, being an authoritative parent instead of a permissive parent.

Therefore, you know you're able to say no, this is the boundary and that's the end of the story.

That's all there is.

Do that.

It's like, you just have to make yourself be that person or else you're failing your kids.

You have some sort of moral guidance, like this is how we treat people and this is how humans are and it doesn't matter what it is.

It could be a religion or it can just be the way you taught your kids to be moral.

Right, a secure environment, you have positive outcomes that are linked to these because your resilience, your coping strategies are much higher, your trust as much higher, confidence as much higher.

It gives you agency as a child.

You feel like you can do anything because you always have been able to do everything because someone's always been there encouraging you or helping you, or providing you with the environment you needed.

And you internalize all those things and those values.

It becomes very lifelong success based stuff.

So yeah, it does matter.

It matters what your home life is like.

It matters what you got as a child or didn't get as a child.

That predisposes you to these things.

You go to college in that stage, oh you're done for.

It doesn't even matter if the colleges themselves were actually at a much more let's say, like a higher level of oh, I don't know, intention around what kind of skills they wanted to give instead of what types of ideologies they wanted to promote.

Let's just put it that way.

And because even if they did have that, and they were like, look, we're just here to give kids skills and empower them and that's it.

We're not going to deal with ideologies.

We're not going to take it upon ourselves to tell you how to be in the world.

We're just going to give you the ability to do in the world.

That would be ideal.

And if they didn't do that, even then there would still be the revolutionary communist parties and the Furries and the Trands and all of these things that would say like, hey, look what we have for you.

Right, whether they know they're doing that or not.

That's what they're doing.

They're saying, hey, broken kid, here's a family for you.

Here's a place where you can shine.

Here's where you can get that stability you've never had.

Here's where you can get the confidence no one ever gave you.

We got you.

Everybody wants that.

So that would still be out there in the world even if the universities weren't doing it.

But the universities are doing it so right.

Like I said, that class list and those courses and those things that were at Evergreen back in the day, those are everywhere.

You can look at that, and you can see it at every college.

Now it is normalized.

Now, it has been shipped out to every college and university.

For the most part, it's there.

And so the only time this is really unlikely to work right the stable family with the morals and still than the authoritative parenting and ideally the reduction of screen time, is if your kid is actually just a sociopathic or psychopathic kid and that's just that's it.

You can't do anything about it, and it happens, right, it happens.

It happens, and it also is created.

Sometimes you can have like the best of intentions and then someone came in and brutalized your kids somehow, right, God forbid, And that can create big, deep issues that send them off into all sorts of problems.

Right, or they can just be born that way.

There just are psychopaths.

They just exist.

Sociopathy, Like you can argue you can create it with enough trauma and all this psychopathy you seem to be born with it.

It's untreatable and it's un you can't do it.

You could do all the best parenting you want, and there it is.

Right.

I'm not saying that, like most kids aren't this and you don't have to worry about this, but it exists.

So you know, some people like what about the people who came from great families, Well there's something wrong with them.

That just is a thing that happens to humans.

And it can also happen because you got a head injury, or you did the wrong drug at the wrong moment of your brain's development.

There's all kinds of things that can happen in life.

But these are the outliers, right, So we shouldn't take the what about the kid that that wasn't like that for and like make the whole story untrue.

The data shows what's true, so we can just trust that we give kids this, we're less likely to get people who will either shoot someone from a rooftop for words they said or celebrate it when it happens.

Less likely too.

So and again all of the data shows too what it is that also helps if you do develop, you know, some mental unwellness or whatever.

And I'll say, you know, I grew up in a family where it was, you know, there was a little bit of stability, and then there was a lot of instability and trauma and horror and whatever, and then there was some stability again.

So like people can come in and out of this too.

You can have all the best intentions and things kind of fall apart and you got to like pull it back together.

So if you find yourself in a situation where you have mental or emotional disturbance or unwellness, some trauma or whatnot, don't necessarily make it worse with pharmaceuticals, because pharmaceuticals in this case are the number one predictor of going into deeper dissociation, having suicidal or murderers or violent tendencies and ideations.

So that's an absolute fact, and you can check that out with your doctor when you talk to them about what's right for you and your family.

And you can also know that all of the studies show that the things that are as or more effective than pharmacology in mental and emotional situations of health are things like social connection.

Social support protects against depression and other mental illness.

And this is true for all kinds of social support.

So like you can create social support for your children.

You can put them in soccer, you can put them in the marching band, you can put them in a church group or other kind of spiritual religious, moral group.

You can build the social support into your child's life.

Ideally, you don't do it at school, where it's just anything goes right.

Ideally you do it with a group you've selected because they reflect your values that you would love your kid to be surrounded by.

But that is a high predictor protective against it.

It's also a curative for it.

So if you find yourself with mental or emotional issues, and you create a social support situation for yourself or your child, then you are going to get out of your mental and emotional issues easier.

It is also true that u social engagement in general is protective also, even against dementia.

She just like, okay, go play chess or go do whatever, Go do social things.

It's better for your mental and emotional health.

It protects you from dementia.

And nature protects you from mental and emotional illness.

It heals you from mental and emotional illness.

Being in nature, forest, bathing, if you want to call it that, grounding, if you want to call it going for a walk or a hike in nature.

By the way, nature can be pretty minimal and still count like you can be in a city park or you can be walking under a tree lined road next to apartment buildings.

Like nature is just any amount of nature.

If you can also go get lost in a national park, well good, awesome, go do that.

But like nature is all around you no matter where you are, you can find it and that is better for your mental and emotional health than a pharmacology.

Even therapy, especially actual therapy and not just counseling, is very good for your mental and emotional well being, especially if you find some person who isn't themselves deeply unwell, which I know these days can be actually a challenge.

But therapy can also be better than pharmacology.

And finally, diet.

I'm not saying dieting as and restricting your calories.

I'm saying eating healthy foods, which is pretty simple and straightforward.

It's foods not found in a box, non processed foods, whole foods, foods you cooked from scratch, Foods that have fruits and vegetables and a variety of other things in them.

Those foods.

Organic is best.

And if you eat healthy, even for a short time, you're mental in your emotional wellness increases no matter this condition you started, and you could be in clinical depression for years.

And if you change your diet in these ways, it improves more effective than pharmacology.

So we have nothing but solutions for all of these problems that otherwise can seem overwhelming.

We can say, what do we do about the colleges radicalizing the youth, Well, don't give them the youth that they can radicalize, because they're going to, whether they mean to or not.

Good argument that they mean to, But even if they didn't, it would happen if you don't create this network of support from nature, from food, from social interaction, from stable family, from lack of screen time and other degenerative sort of activities.

You know, if you don't create that for people, they're not going to have it, and they're going to find really bad substitutions.

They're going to either look to mutilate themselves to make themselves seem like, oh, maybe now I can finally get all those things that I needed.

They don't know what they are.

They just know they don't have it and they never felt good, right, or they're going to find it in these other groups or these other activities.

So you have to give your kids these things.

You have to give youth these things.

And if you don't have kids, maybe you look towards trying to support the people who are trying to give the kids these things, because it's your world too, because kids can't do better than what we do for them, and so it really is all of our responsibilities and or to create this world.

And again, otherwise we end up with psychopaths who are on roofs shooting at people, and or the giant mass amounts of mostly younger people who responded to that with glee and excitement and joy.

They didn't actually feel glee or joy, no, but they felt a delight.

And it's a sick kind of delight, and they did it because they lacked all of these things.

Well, people don't do this.

I saw me meme and it said happy people ain't hating, and hating people ain't happy.

And it's true.

All these people that have shown all of this hate in the wake of this event, real or fake stage, Your sy up doesn't matter, real reactions.

All of these people that have been doing that, they're not well.

They didn't come from stable families of confidence, inspiring, trust building, you know, healthy foods, healthy support systems, good social engagement, good balance with screen time.

They didn't come from those places, and if they did, they wouldn't be doing this except for the small amount of people who are actual psychopaths.

And so we have to fix the psychopathic society and world we're in together by doing it for ourselves.

If I just read that list of things that was good for you and you're not doing any of them, like you're headed the wrong direction.

So like, make sure you're taking care of yourself first, right and in facts, your own oxygen mask and of trouble before you do it for the people around you.

But also when and how possible that you're encouraging that and the rest of the world, especially for youth.

And that's the way we fix it.

It's actually pretty easy.

We just become real people in real life situations that are actually the oldest, most ancient and most normal things that we can do.

And when we stay connected to those things of woila, we are also a well balanced society.

So isn't it funny?

It always comes back actually to the family.

And so, as we've said many times on the show, the most revolutionary thing you can actually do is have a family, maybe a garden, all urban farm, pretty traditional.

Huh.

It's good for you.

So keep it going and until you do, travel well, am for balance and always look inside first.

Good to these screens.

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