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Heal Your Mom Heal The World
Episode Transcript
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife, and she couldn't.
She cleaned and cared for her children and the man of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
She was both obedient and soft by nature.
She was a good woman who always made good choices.
Speaker 2We're good Mom's bad choices.
Two single mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices and sound out they were so bad.
After all, we're experts.
Speaker 3Overshares and your new besties.
Speaker 4Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2I can do it.
Speaker 4Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 3I'm Erica and I'm Mila.
Speaker 4Happy hop Day, bitches.
Speaker 2Happy Wednesday, y'all?
What to do?
It's the last Wednesday of August and then we're in our last quarter of the year.
Speaker 4How are you feeling?
I feel good.
I'm looking forward to fall.
It's been hot as fuck all summer.
Hot here hot in Costa Rica.
Got back, there's a heat wave, and yeah, I know, mommy needs a motherfucking break, because mom has been mommy all mother fucking summer.
Besides, when Iri went to summer camp and maybe went on a short trip with her dad, I've pretty much had iri all summer and I'm obsessed with my child.
I want nothing more than to be with her all the time, truly, But then also I know when I need.
I'm getting to the point where it's like I know that I need a little bit of a break just to be Erica for a second.
And maybe school year will help with that.
Speaker 2I mean, it certainly will, because we have that guaranteed, you know, eight to ten hours, five days a week, which is.
Speaker 4A blessing, I know.
But you know what, when it is the school year, those eight to ten hours for like four hours maybe like yeah, it's like you drop them off and then you're like back there.
Speaker 3It's true.
I'm always like it's over already.
Speaker 2What the fuck?
Speaker 4I don't know.
I'm like, whatever that thing is.
It's like making summer days shorter or spending on its access at a maximum speed.
This year, I needed to do the reverse during the during the fall.
Speaker 2It does.
Speaker 3I mean, this summer went by really fast.
Speaker 2I know, we traveled a lot, and so it was like back to back trips, which kind of sped it up a lot.
Speaker 3But and also like doing.
Speaker 2A retreat while the kids are in Costa Rica, it hits different there's a level of like it's like mom times one hundred, because you're caring for people, you're caring for your kid.
There's no time off, even the days where we're like on I mean we're on property the whole time, but like the days when we're done with the retreat, the kids are like bride eyed and bushy tailed and like, let's watch a movie, you know, and you're like, yeah, twenty four to nine momming.
So yeah, and your mom was on this retreat.
So that's even a different level of care.
How is that?
Speaker 4What are you telling?
It was good?
It was good, but I am I'm tired.
I feel like I feel like between the three retreats we did this summer, because we did three couples retreat, two women's retreat, and I feel like I retreated my mom after the retreat, a bitch is fucking burnt out.
My healing powers or need to be recharged.
Okay, I need to fucking I need a healing like plug in activator, not plug in.
I feel like the magic from my fingertips like it's like it's like they're starting to like sizzles.
So all the reiki I did and all the fucking but short.
Speaker 2There's a short you need to plug short.
Speaker 4It just like, yeah, I really need a healer, starter pack, charging power or something.
It was good I realized between well, yesterday is really when I realized this.
Well, actually I know this about myself, but it was it was reactivated yesterday.
We had a barbecue at my mom's house.
But going back to your question about how I was my mom at the retreat, my whole goal was today not have expectations, be not let my mommy pleasing take over.
And I did a pretty good job.
But obviously it's not about pleasing, because I think we want to take care of our mothers.
I want to make we want to make sure our mothers are comfortable.
But for me, it's deeper than that.
It's like I want to make my mom proud.
I want to make sure like she understands why I love this place so much.
I want her to like see me as like in this space that I'm in, and like respect it and respect me.
I want her to talk to the group, you know, I want her to integrate because I know she needs it too, Like I know that she needs it, and I think like coming on this her coming on this experience allowed me to kind of be in that role of caretaker for her, and I knew I was taking on that role and I was happy to do it, and I'm happy to do it, but I'm tired.
I'm tired, you know.
Like I realized in this retreat space too.
With my mom, it's like like our moms are just girls, you know, and like baby girls.
Yeah, specific and there were like moments that, you know, I thought that she would be able to engage better.
Specifically in one moment moment in our workshop, we have an eye gazing moment, and I was really surprised at how challenging that was for her with me, you know.
And then I also realized that I've probably never stared at my mom in her eyes for more than maybe ten seconds.
So we're asking, you know, the ladies to stare in their paired partner's eyes for sixty seconds, which is not even that long.
But when I was there with her, because I paired myself with her, I was like, I've done this so many times that I like the gazing.
I love it, you know, and so I was ready.
I was like, oh my god, finally I get to daze in my mom's ass, and you know, it was emotional for me, not like I started crying and she was like, why are you crying?
And I was like, because I love you?
What the fuck?
And I could just see how challenging it was for her to remain like keep engaged with me, Like she kept kind of looking away, and It's like, wow, Like, not only I do this work with women, but like I realized how much work our parents need need as well from us.
And I was thinking about that too.
Actually, we had we have follow up calls with our attendees after the retreat to check in, and one of them, she's a therapist, so she was like therapizing me.
I'm like, bitch, I'm I'm supposed to check it with you.
She was like, how was your mom?
How did it feel with having your mom?
This was like Ruth from week one, So my mom came week two and yeah, I mean I think it was.
It was really interesting to see the places where my mom I think has never got the chance to really expand in there, never got the chance to really even sit in and enjoy.
Like I was thinking, like probably the last time I stared at my mom for sixty seconds was like when I was a baby like looking up at her and her looking at me, and there's like no nothing, there's it's just a blank slate, you know.
And now this is not a blank slate.
This is thirty seven years of raising me and all types of shit.
And yeah, it was.
It was beautiful.
What I was going to say is like I realized this work is so important for mother daughters, Like I really I'm excited for you to have your mom come on the retreat one day and so that you under you can like experience this too and see like the like the places where you see your mom is just a girl, Like damn, you're like a little girl right here.
And it was it was a lot emotionally.
I think I'm still processing.
I feel like I'm gonna cry right now.
Like I think I'm still processing it.
Speaker 2It's a lot.
And and you know, I realize, I mean just by observing you in the thing, like I know that it was a big deal for her to come.
I mean, I can only imagine it's a very intimate space and we do it all the time, but to have your mom there, it's like a level of intimacy that sometimes it's easier to be intimate with people that you don't know, and it's really interesting to see how stagnant and how challenging it is even in this work to do it with people that are close to us.
And I mean, like we always say this, and I'm happy that we set the bar this way.
Is like, yes, we're facilitating, but I wouldn't say that we are masters at this.
You know, we're often experiencing the retreat.
We're every time we're experiencing the retreat as we're facilitating it, and we're expanding and we're growing.
And you know, even sometimes me and Erica as like as me and you will have issues, not even issues.
It's easier to facilitate the medicine than sometimes taking it.
Speaker 3And so it's true, there's.
Speaker 2Always going to be there's all like, especially when you step into this space, like spirit is always going to invite you to expand more and more and more and more, and it's hard because you're like, fuck, I have an idente enough And I thought about that a lot while I was there, like how would my mom be in this space?
How would I be in this space?
And you know, I'm really grateful.
I think my mom has done a lot of work in the last two years that you know, I have to acknowledge, you know, and I'm sure there's more work to do, like we're all still growing.
So I'm really excited to get her there.
But it's also interesting observing your mom in this space because I can also see her, you know, obviously she's your mom, but I also see her like when i'm you know, obviously when we have groups, we're observing the group too.
We're observing how people are opening up, if they're taking the medicine, if they're like open to it, if they're more closed off.
And I saw too, And it's interesting to be best friends with you and spend this much time with you.
Obviously, I've never been on a trip with your mom or you guys together, so it's it is.
It was interesting to observe her in the space because there's parts of her that I can There's that I can see parts of you more clearly because I'm just seeing her in a closed space and an intimate space.
And you know, I was facilitating that that portion when you guys were holding hands and you know, leaning in because everybody's blindfolded, so I can like listen to answers and like oversee it, and I can see too where she was like a little bit resistant, a little bit like not closed off, but guarded.
And I think that's normal.
You know a lot of people come that way.
I'm that way and in certain situations, so I understand it.
But to see her, I mean, probably in her mind it's like not put on the spot, but kind of because you're here now and I'm staring in your eyes, mom, and I'm asking you deep in personal questions and we're getting deep.
And I think that we, like our parents come from a generation that that was the norm.
Speaker 3Their parents didn't do it with them.
Speaker 2There's no like they're like, okay, all right, that's enough deep shit, like let's carry on, you know.
And so we both come from families that way in a certain capacity, and we are doing work and initiating a type of work that is not necessarily the norm.
And sometimes, like I think, parents will try to make you feel crazy, like you're so cheesy and like woo woo, so that it's another form of avoiding deepening the intimacy and deepening the connection.
And so it was interesting to see her like slowly drop down into it and you know, just be in the space and observe it and like just kind of get into it without out having this idea of whatever she thought was happening prior to actually experiencing it.
Speaker 4It's funny because you might wanna blow your nose, baby.
Speaker 2It's a lot of oh sorry, I'm sick hold on.
Speaker 4Being with her there.
Yes, I figured I've been to ask you this, like do you get how I am why I am the way I am now?
Because you haven't really spent a lot of time with my mom.
You've just heard me talk about her.
You've gotten glimpses of her, like you know here and there throughout you know, our friendship together.
But I had that thought at the retreat because like my mom is like you know, she's she's a very she's observant.
But like what I've gotten from my mom to well, it's it's a bit of both.
My mom's judgmental period, Like she'll never admit it, but she is, and I'm a bit judgmental for sure, I can be in some ways.
And the thing about her is that very rarely does she change her mind, you know, Like I feel like with me, I'm open, Like I'm open to my mind changing, you know, Like I've said, oh, I was wrong about that person, or like, you know, I'm willing to like check in with myself and do that, whereas my mom is not.
There's a stubbornness in her and when she makes her mind up about something, it is what it is, you know.
And I think like the retreat was challenging for me because again, like I was trying to work through my mommy pleasing and while also like taking care of a lot of other women and also for two weeks and then you know, taking care of my daughter and then after the retreat taking care of her as well, because my mom is going through some shit and it's like it was heavy the whole retreat.
There was shit going I was like literally asking God, like why God, what is going on?
Why are you throwing all these obstacles at my mom at this moment where like I've prayed for this moment for her to come here and be able to like rest here, and there's all this shit happening back home.
My Grandma's in the hospital like so much, so many things that like are pulling at her away from being present here, and like she pushed through and I took the reins a lot literally too.
I took her phone one day I took.
I deleted Instagram off of her phone for the entire trip.
I downloaded Spotify and like downloaded a bunch of playlists so that she didn't need to be I put her phone on airplane modes that she didn't need to actually like she my mom is a doom scroller.
I just realized that even our parents of a different generation who didn't grow up on the phones are severely addicted to these phones.
And it's become like a distress for whatever, I mean for all of us, but like for whatever is happening in our lives, we just distract ourselves and also like start like judging ourselves based on whatever we're looking at on the internet and connected to our email.
Like my mom has a lot of like fear around like not being present in her business and like dismissing something and everything's going to fall apart, you know.
And it was really hard for me to watch her.
And she was dealing with severe back problems the whole time, so it was like weighing on me.
And I like, I'm I'm such an EmPATH and I like never thought that I was, And I don't like it's like it's like getting to the point like now where it's like I don't even know how to deal with it sometimes because I didn't.
I don't know if like my empathy like has just begun to expand as I get older, whereas before, like I was able to like compartmentalize things where I can't anymore, and like I'm deeply affected by like energies.
So I'm like, I have a lot of protective practices, and I talk about this with the ladies at the retreat, but like no one can prepare you for like the protective practice of your parent, you know, Like it's it's like an emotional like umbelical cord that can't be like undone.
And I'm like at work, and so it was.
It was good, but it was heavy for me a lot.
And I want I wish I want to do it again.
I wish that she would come again, maybe in a different moment in her life where like she can actually really surrender to the experience like physically, like when her body feels better and just like when she feels more at peace with where she's at in her life, Like I not that, like I know that people come to the retreat for that reason.
But I think because she's never given herself a break in that way, and she's never done any type of work like this truly, which is so interesting to me because the reason why I'm into the woo woo shit is because of that woman.
Like growing up, she had me on astrologizone dot com.
She's the one who was like all up in my horoscope.
She was the one who was like meeting with readers and spiritualists, and she was the one who was nate but ass naked in my house all the time.
And like it's almost like she's forgotten that piece of her, like she's become very cynical and like scared.
I think.
Speaker 2I mean, there's all there's always like there's you know, even us for people who are not our parent or not a family member.
Speaker 3There are people who come.
Speaker 2In the retreat more than once, and we literally see too totally different versions of them, Like I'm thinking of Ashley right now, like shout out to Ashley and New York.
She knows who she is and she's been on more than one retreat and like the person we saw the first time, obviously there was a level of evolution to the last day.
But when I saw her again the following year, or maybe it was that summer wholl night and day like she and so I realized in this work is like everyone is coming at showing up a different different different places, and so if you haven't really even considered opening up and what that means to your nervous system, and like, yeah, it's like the it begins with the Ashtro cafe and the readers, because that's fun.
But like the commitment to getting into the spiritual part of self and to the emotional work is something different.
And I also, you know, considering like seeing you with your mom, and then also even your grandmother, who I spend even less time with, but I know she's around.
Considering how your mom is raised by your grandmother and how that's affected her, and how you know, like just visually seeing and observing the things that we take from our parents.
And you know earlier we like when we were just recording and we had to start over her because of technology.
You said, it's interesting, you said, like, I'm not a people pleaser, but I do always want to please my mom.
And I'm like that's interesting, like to not have because I'm someone who's had people pleasing tendencies, And I think it's because growing up I needed attention that I didn't get, Like there was a level of oh, she's all right, you know, because I am like I was self sufficient or I had to be, so there was like pay maybe a people pleasing to like pay, like look at me.
So I'm wondering, like, where do you think the like the like the need for validation from your mom comes from so strongly, whereas outside people you're just like, eh, I could get I could care less, you know what I mean.
Like that's I think I think I felt like most people have that need for validation from their parents, but I don't.
I don't really like I'm really big on like I'm gonna do what I want to do whether you criticize me or not from my parents.
And I think that's the rebellious part of me, probably because I was probably neglected a little bit.
So I'm wondering, like what do you think that is?
Because I think that is probably something that you are being asked to explore in a part of Like you know, I'm sure that that came up while you were there, and it's like, okay, well what is it in my in my childhood that made me feel that I needed to like really hear this from her.
Is it that maybe she didn't say that to you growing up, or like did did like did that come through it all being in this intimate space with her on the retreat.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm definitely, like I think I'm still exploring her.
But I think some of it comes from her being my only parent.
Really, you know, I didn't have both parents in the house.
She's my primary parent.
She's always been my primary parent.
Obviously, me and my dad have relationship now, but it's more like my homie than like a parental person.
So I think, like there's I think as children, we want to please our parents, like we're like, Mommy, look at me, like look at this cartwheel, look at this, look at that, look at this, And perhaps I didn't get enough attention.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't recall that feeling growing up, but I do know that my mom was working a lot, so perhaps it was like internalized in me and paired with the criticalness that I experienced as a child, Like my grandmother so critical of my mother, so critical of everything everyone my mom always said, like my mom, my grandmother barely told her, she loved her, like she showed her love through cooking and like making their clothes.
Like my and my grandmother cared so deeply about what people thought about her children still now cares so deeply what people think about every little thing.
And that's translated to my mother and it's not as severe, just like it's translated to me in ways like it's lightened and enlightened and enlightened, but it's still there even in me.
And I think, like being young and wanting to be I think, you know, I wanted I wanted I start acting really young, and I wanted to be in this entertainment industry that my mom was already in as a makeup artist.
And that probably made the criticalness seem it made her critique me, but for a purpose, right, you say you want to do this thing, so then you need to do this and this.
So like at a very young age, I was hyper aware of like, okay, liked did I say thank you?
Did I like?
My mom even does this now?
Did you say thank you?
I'm like, Mom, I'm fucking almost forty years old.
I don't need you to tell me ask if I said thank you?
Okay, So I see her do it with my brother.
I see her do with my family.
I see how annoyed everybody gets with her, and she's so confused, like doesn't understand why people are annoyed, and you know, but I know that it comes from a good place, and I know that a lot of it comes from from my grandmother.
So I think like there's just wanting her to, I guess be proud of me in ways.
And it's not like she hasn't said she's proud of me, but it's like there's always like this little tinge of something there that I can't put my finger on that makes me feel like it's not quite right, you know, like almost got it right.
And that's how I've I've felt like most of my life with her, and so I've always been highly I've been highly critical of myself.
I've been like very self conscious about my body, but like no one would ever know that.
I never like let on like I mean, I've done a lot of work now, but like I don't really let people into that those insecurities into me.
It's like all internal.
Because I've also watched my mom be very critical of herself and still on this trip.
The amount of negative self talk that I was fighting against with her all day was fucking exhausting.
I'm not even gonna lie.
I was like at one point, I was like, you gotta stop, Like you have got to fucking stop, Like like I don't you know?
So I think I think it did?
Speaker 2Did she?
Did she hear you?
Did she?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 4And she's and and I've done this with her too as a kid too, Like I remember being a teenager like mom, like, stop talking about so bad about your body, Like what do you think that does for me?
Like how do you think that makes me feel?
And she I'm sorry, But then she'd write back on it like it's like a habit.
She can't help it, you know, And like she's a libra so like her whole like her whole world is about making things beautiful, like leaving things better than she left them.
Like libras just love beauty and making things beautiful and pretty, and they can like see the but see like you know, the the ugly duckling and like how they can make her.
You know, that's why she's a fucking makeup artist.
That's why she's a brand founder in beauty.
Like I get it, she's but like with me, it was like detrimental, and so I think, like I've spent a lot of time.
It's funny though, because I know you said like with your parents, like you don't really give a fuck whatever.
I give a fuck, but I still do what I want, Like I still, I still I was the rebellious child.
It's like I'm a mom pleaser, but I still did what I want wanted, but I was like a rebel with anxiety.
That's what I called myself.
Like I would do it, but then I'd.
Speaker 2Be like, I mean, I think I think we all crave our parents' validation.
We all want to be told that they're proud of us, you know, like we come from these people.
That is inevitable.
I think.
I yeah, I think with my parents.
I think my mom.
One thing she would do to me was like I would tell her something and then she's like maybe.
She'd be telling the story and be like, well, supposedly, da da da dah, and I'd be like, why are you saying supposedly.
She's like what supposedly.
I'm like, I just fucking said it.
It's not supposedly, it's a fact.
And it was like almost like a doubt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like that really bothered me.
And uh so, I don't know, it's just it's all you know what now specifically right now and this like week and this, and like like I'm recognizing how like when we decide to do the work, you know, they always say like it heals seven generations behind you and seven generations ahead of you, and and I believe that.
And I just see not the stark difference between like your mom or my mom or whatever, but I see this, like how the shifts happen.
And because I've only known my grandmother, we can only go so far up the family tree.
I can see, you know, how certain experiences and certain things like you know, register with each child.
And it's so interesting to me how we're you know, how we interpret them and translate them and hold on to them and like play they play out in our adulthood.
Speaker 3And it's a big deal.
Speaker 2And I know, like all the fucking woo woo healer light work shit is always like heal the inner child, do the shadow work.
But that inner child shit is so mother fucking real.
Speaker 3And it's so.
Speaker 2I think right now, it's like it's just very clear if you are not in communication with that version of you.
And when I say communication, like even just taking the moment to sit back and you know, go through the files of childhood and to observe and sit with and you know, just observe how they've affected you, like you're going to miss a lot of shit, and even like this week, and it's so interesting that we're having this conversation because this week specifically, you know, Orlando started a new job and me and him had like two separate, like uh disagreements, and I can't even really fucking think of it is at this very moment.
It was like how I was talking to him, and for him it was something like some trust thing that came up that came up for me and it was like back to back on two different days.
But in resolving it, there was a point where I was crying so hard and I was like, this is not about this.
This is about some shit my dad did.
This is like this is different than whatever.
Speaker 3I'm like, this is not that.
Speaker 2And same he had some issues with me about how I was talking to him, and I was just like I didn't feel like it was that crazy, and he was like you and he started like talking to me and saying, like my mom talked to me and like said these things things to me, and I didn't deserve it.
And I could see like this was stemming from something else, you know, and I realized that, you know, being in a healthy relationship.
And when I say healthy, I just mean two adults that are choosing to be aware and compassionate and empathetic and like.
And when you're in a healthy relationship, you recognize that every relationship that we have in adulthood is going to trigger you, because that is the point when you feel safe with someone, when you have close relationships with someone, even in friendship, people are going to trigger you because there's a lesson there that you're supposed to in a wound that you're supposed to heal, but you have to be able to look at it and you have to be able to follow the string all the way back to the root of the wound.
And if you're unable to do that, if you're unable to sit in the discomfort of that, then you're never going to get to it.
And like, being in this relationship that's healthy, that's safe.
Not to say we don't argue, obviously we do, we're human, but to be able to be clear enough to be like, oh, in this moment, I was not being empathetic to his experience or to your experience, your childhood experience, knowing that you had an abusive mom, knowing that you had a neglectfule mom, knowing that you had a highly critical mom, or whatever.
The thing is, Like, you know, in close relationships, you have to go in when you love someone, even understanding that lens and also understanding that about yourself.
And like the thing we got into it about was trust.
And I realize, like, I don't trust men because I don't really trust my dad and he's always been in my life.
My parents have been married my whole life, but my dad has always been like a chronic cheater and would ask me lie about it, and like since I was a kid, this is the conversation that I heard.
But my mom is fairly extremely insecure and extremely violent about it instead of just leaving.
But it came up with me in Orlando, and I was just completely totally offended and like thinking the worst, and he's like, well, why don't you trust me?
And it was just like a back and forth.
But I realized, like in close relationships, a part of our responsibility is to soothe.
I'm sorry, this is not what I meant by that, Like we're going to ask our partners or our friends to in ways soothe wounds.
Speaker 3That they did not even create.
Speaker 2And it's interesting, Like I was like wondering this week, I'm like, what the fuck is in the stars that this is like all of these childhood things are erupting.
Speaker 3But I just realized that, like, a lot of the things that we find.
Speaker 2Take issue with in adulthood are generally things that started deeply a long time ago, and that now we have the you know, we have the time and the space and the tools hopefully to address them.
But if we're not thinking that way, then it's very hard to do that.
Speaker 4Yeah.
No, it's true.
It's true.
And I you know, it's like I have this unique opportunity because I do I have a relationship with my mom, because I do think like when you're healing your inner child, like wouldn't it be great if you could hear your inner child alongside your parent who was there for your childhood.
And obviously that's not like the circumstances for a lot of people, like you have to do the work alone.
And and even if you have a parent like you still have to You probably still have to do a lot of the work alone because your parent is probably not going to acknowledge certain things that happen because that wasn't their experience of the situation.
And I had that.
I had that come up for me actually at the retreat when we were in workshop and we asked the question, like, what about you feels hardest to love?
And I said my sensitivity and she said, yeah, you were really you were really sensitive as a kid, super sensitive.
I didn't, like, I didn't understand like why you would get upset about certain things, and it felt dismissive again, and I was like, what the fuck, Like I'm here telling you what you know and I but again I'm like, okay, well, like you know, that's her experience.
Her experience is she didn't understand at age whatever, thirty years old, why her seven year old was offended or like why my feelings were hurt because she's dealing with trying to fucking pay the rent, trying to get this done, trying to da da da, you're crying about what, Like, I don't got time for that.
But for me, it was like the end of the world, you know, And for me, it was like the deep and it probably still is in my body now.
But it's like you kind of have to just accept certain things that like your parents are, you know, they're not going to relate to certain experiences that you've had as a child.
They're not like even like I realized my mom has a hard time with affection, which I didn't even realize until the retreat, because I really when I was young, I think I got a lot of affection from her.
But then at some point in my teenage years when I started rebelling against her and I didn't want anything to do with her, especially touched me.
We never reverted back.
We never got back to that.
And I thought I was thinking, like, how many people have that shared experience, Like there's this break in your relationship with your parent, usually around your teens, and then you never recover from that, You never go back to the loving like mother, daughter, father, da whatever dynamic because how.
Speaker 2Well, well then you chop it up to like pubescence and prebretty and like that's weird and and you know, and like on the mom shit too.
Speaker 3It's like your mom.
Speaker 2Probably had to develop pretty things skin pretty young, so she's thinking about Tani and how she probably talked to her and then thinking when you're like thirteen or thirty, you're acting soft.
Speaker 3She's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2You know, like there's there's there's no association to it, because she's probably built that skin up really young as a form of defense, you know what I mean, And so it's hard for her to see that in you and hard to connect to that part because she's in ways protected herself from words, and so she's like, why are you being so sensitive?
You know what I mean?
And so like, yeah, it is your it's fucked up.
But a part of this work is like it's your job to revert that and be like, it's okay to have feelings.
It's okay mom to feel you know, it's okay to touch, and it's it feels heavy because it's like, why the fuck is this my responsibility as the child?
But this is about this is a part of the reason we choose our parents and like they you know, and like we, like the universe, chooses each other because there are lessons for each other that we're here to learn.
And like I remember being in high school and like fucking not wanting my mom to touch me like I don't want to want to slide past you in the like the hallway and like that's crazy.
Speaker 3But now even as us in a.
Speaker 2Good place, like it does feel difficult for me to feel like super affectionate, and I feel ashamed to say that, you know, like maybe it didn't like I didn't make an effort to ever go back to that place after I wrote it off in high school.
And now I'm having to be an adult and except that she's human and that she is capable of change, even if it is at fifty eight or fifty nine years old, and I have to also commit to changing the way I see her and the way I interact with her, just for the like love, you know, Like there's times I've.
Speaker 3Slept over her house.
Speaker 2She's like, sleep in the bed with me, and I'm like, nah, you know what I mean, Like it doesn't feel comfortable for me.
And that's that I think now as a mom, it hurts to admit that because I would hate I don't care how old Luna is for her to you know, to even to to reject me in that way.
Speaker 3And it is important that we have.
Speaker 2This conversation now, right before this teenage time that we're about to get into with them as they are approaching eleven, that I'm really conscious of like keeping the affection up even through those changes, because you're right, like we don't discuss the water under the bridge of parental relationships because in like romantic relationships, when there's water, too much water under the bridge, yea, you break up.
Speaker 3I'm over it.
Speaker 4Yeah you're dead, You're done.
Speaker 2But but you know you can't break up.
Speaker 4I mean you can, people do it, but you know, usually it's if it's not severe enough, you're not usually not going to do that.
And like you know, in my case, it's it's never been It's never been like that, you know.
I mean, my mom have had a good relationship, but is it the closest has it always been the closest?
Know, I think over the last few years we've gotten really close.
I definitely feel like the roles shifting, and I'm I think it's my I think it's age because I feel like I've talked to other women and not even women, men too around this age where like there's this shift like your parents are realizing like they're nearing the endish, not end, but the endish of their lives and you are realizing, oh shit, I'm gonna have to take care of you.
And also like you're starting to really humanize your parent because you're because of your own personal life experiences, whether you're being a mother, whatever, workforce, whatever the fuck, Like you're starting to realize, oh, my god, no wonder she didn't have the capacity for me at that age because blah blah blah, because I'm going through this right now, so you know.
And then me literally being in the caretaker role out of retreat where I'm responsible for helping these women, guiding these women, leading these women, including my mother, you know, and seeing where she's stuck, seeing the where like the work never got done or never even started.
And you're right, like I do see that the healing seven years.
I mean, I can only I can't speak for seven years behind me.
I know it's probably happening, but I can't.
I mean, but like in the for the future, I see it through my daughter.
I see it even with my mom, like her leaning in, leaning into me more, her accepting me more, her flying across the count like across out of the United States, taking to a plane, staying in a hotel, and I traveling into the jungle like, that's a lot of effort for a woman her age, like and that I know that that that's a big deal because three or four years ago, there would have been no fucking way on earth that she would have even been interested to know what the fuck I'm doing over here.
So I know that there's healing taking place.
I know that there's progress taking place, and it is uncomfortable.
I am still processing.
It was challenging.
I do think that we does we owe it to our mothers to bring this work to them.
I will say too, yes, it is easier to be in the work with strangers because even in our own personal relationship, I'm not gonna lie.
I'd be like, damn, Mela can sit and fucking talk to these women.
But we have an issue, like I feel like she avoids me, but like she don't know this bitch from a grain of salt, and she's gonna let her cry with her and ask her all these questions.
But when we have it but with me and you sometimes and that goes vice versa, like there's a resistance when you are close with someone, not all the time, but specific people when it's extremely sensitive where you avoid you know, and like I wanted to avoid this trip with my mom's like she was coming and I was like, oh my god, like why no, like are you sure?
Speaker 2Fuck?
Speaker 4Like I know she needs it, but like I know I invited you, but you know, and it's like, why would I be giving this medicine to everyone else except the woman who fucking birthed me?
Like why because you know, and and out of fear of judgment, out of fear of it not working, out of fear of it being like, oh well it works on everyone else but didn't work on you, book, Like is it real?
Speaker 2Is it real?
Speaker 4You know, like the judgment of myself.
And I think it's like pushing past We have to push past those those fears because A that's the calling on our lives, or at least mine, and B because like our fucking future, our descendants deserve this shit.
They deserve it, and in this world that's crazy and acting so strange, like at least we can we can like know that, like our families are straight, like mentally and emotionally and physically and basically and spiritually.
Speaker 2Spiritually, And I mean, I think obviously it's a calling on our lives because we're here doing it, so like there would be no reason for our purpose to be you know, like so clear, but for every for everybody else outside of the people directly related to us, you know, and it is it's gonna it's going to require that you do things that are on like more and more and more, Like I would say, like I said, like the work's never done.
And it also like luckily we are people that have the insight to like obviously we're human, but like to self respect, I mean self analyze and self reflect and say, like what is my avoidance with conflict?
Speaker 3What does this mean to me?
Speaker 2You know?
And like for me, like I grew up in a household where like conflicts were fights were the like it was this big blow up and like I didn't see a lot of healthy arguments.
I saw fucking chaos and violence.
And so I think maybe as an adult, I avoid it because I'm like this is going to lead to this and I and I don't want this to lead to this huge violent like like explosion and like having to reprogram and rewire like what what conflict means?
And like truly the conflict is like if you have a conflict and you can talk past it, you're gonna always be closer to the person versus assuming that conflict automatically means fucking chaos, you know what I mean.
Like, there's there's so much of like adulthood that is based in observing why why the fuck do I act this way?
Why do I feel this way?
Why did I just tell myself this?
Why am I so highly critical of this this and that?
You know?
Why am I judging this person?
Or whatever?
Speaker 3The fuck?
Speaker 2It is?
A lot of it is like these are these are decisions and that we've made, or like a filter that has like covered our lens in childhood or in early development that now it's lived with us.
But most a lot of people aren't committed to questioning the why of why you are.
Some people are like, well, that's just how I am.
And it's like is it just how you are?
Or is there a room for you to expand and try harder and do it again and be better?
Speaker 3You know, And it's like it's not easy, but life is a fucking.
Speaker 2Lesson, Like our souls have a contract and some shit is supposed to get done this this iteration, and like if you don't do it, we're gonna be back in this bitch trying again in a different body, and you might be a male and maybe it'll be white, maybe you'll have different circumstances.
Speaker 3But that's life, you know.
So yeah, this.
Speaker 2Is yeah, I'm grateful that we have.
I'm just I'm grateful that this is the work that we're in because even if it's Wu wou or whatever, we're always at least trying to dig a little deeper, go a little further, try a little harder.
Speaker 4I mean, and I can't help it because I'm always I'm like, I'm such a like whenever I'm going as I'm going through this work with my mother, I'm thinking, oh my god, like we need to do a mom and mom retreat, Like we need to do a mom and mom retreat, and my mom must come back.
We talked about doing a mom you know, mom and daughter retreat like a kid retreat, which, like, you know, we got a lot of people interested in and I'm excited to do something like that, But I'm also like that other aspect of like my mom coming on this retreat made me realize, like, if your mom is still here on this earth and is willing to come into a space like that with you, why the fuck not, you know, and like you're talking about generational healing like that shit, Like I already know whatever we did in there out in the jungle, like it's still the healing is still working right now in this very moment, you know.
Speaker 2Like that is so.
Speaker 4Powerful, like being able to sit in your mother's arms like a baby or vice versa, you know, and being able to care for one another in that way where it's just about you, there's no distractions, Like I have to do some healing with my mom first before I can probably facilitate something like that.
Speaker 3I mean, you are, but you did, but you did it.
I'm like I'm doing it, but yeah, but.
Speaker 4I'm still working through the discomfort, you know, Like I'm not on the other side.
I don't know, Like I don't I don't want to say I'm not on the other side of it.
I'm not on the other side of it, and I know that there's maybe no perfect other side of it, but I do feel like there's a level of like initiation in that space that I need to go walk a little bit through before facilitating experience like that.
But I realize how important it is and how like necessary it the fuck is.
Speaker 2Okay, I mean that the mom wounds, the parental wounds in general, are deep seated, and you're right, like, if we are here in life, while you can do it out loud, why not.
And it's not to say that everyone's gonna you know, it's gonna be easier.
Speaker 3Your mom's gonna just take it.
It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 2You know.
I got into it with my mom the other day because she was like telling me she worked my whole life, and I was like, you did it.
You stopped working when I was nine, and she's like, no, I did it, No I did it.
I was like, no, you did and she's like, no, I did it.
I worked your whole life.
And I was like, mom, why would I have this very specific number, not like I know exactly when you stopped working.
And then she was just getting like nasty a little bit with me, and I was just like, never mind, girl, I'm not about to keep going arguing back and forth.
But what I noticed in that moment, it was like she was me saying she stopped working at nine, which was a fucking fact, was me saying you didn't do shit.
That's what fed HER's that's what she was hearing.
And you know, a couple of hours later, she called me and she was like, I talked to your dad.
You're right, I did stop working when you ran in the fourth grade, but I was taking you to doctor's appointments.
I was like, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4Well, because she's still working.
She was raising you, which is a whole other job.
I mean, I know that's not what she was thinking when you've said that, but I probably in her in her mind, in her body, she didn't get a break, you know what I mean, yeah, kind of not physically checked into the She might have not physically checked into the job, you know, but in her muscle memory, bitch, I was working the fuck.
Speaker 2And it just it was just like a really clear indication of like what I'm saying versus what you're hearing, right, And also like I wasn't about to argue and go back and forth, and I was kind of getting frustrated, and then I was just like, never mind, Like why am I arguing about this?
And then she called me back later and agreed with what I was saying, and I was just like, it's very interesting, Like I know, as a mom, we are sensitive beings because we do do so much for our children and we sacrifice and we pour into and like a lot of times it feels like a thankless job.
And I at that, and so I just like I obviously need to like affirm her more.
But like even the fact that she called me back and was like, actually, you're right, yeah, I know, thanks, But it's just it's interesting that, you know, like we have to kind of learn the language of our parents, and like a lot of it is they want to be thanked and recognized for feeding you and keeping you live for your whole life, which I gain, and.
Speaker 4We want to be recognized, and you know, we want our parents to be proud of us, you know, so it's kind of the same shit.
I'm trying to bring this backwood back to life, okay, because bitch, if you saw the backwood cemetery that's happening before my fucking eyes here, Bitch, these dry backwards that I have.
So I'm literally putting this whole cigar in water, hoping to reignite the moisture so that I don't rip this open and it just falls to pieces, because what in the backwood is going on here?
Speaker 2I have this grape backwood from Costa Rica, and you know what I said, one episode that I was going to try it without your babe.
Oh no, I'm going to hear GEP you know what to do?
Speaker 4Oh my god, I think I fixed it.
Wait let me Yeah, Oh my god, I re wait.
I think I need more water.
Speaker 3You rehydrated it rehydrated the backwoods.
Speaker 2See, I'm a backwood CPR, CPR D I CPR this bitch.
I have a grape one and I want to try it without putting weed in it like you did like a cigar.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, come on girl.
Oh no, my mom is not talking about her.
She's calling me.
Speaker 3Now, were you talking about me on that podcast?
Speaker 4If you always, she'll be mortified.
Everyone, do not tell her I talked about her on this episode, don't you.
Speaker 3Dare you know what?
She'll be so mortified that she won't listen.
You know my mom.
Speaker 2My mom has still read our book.
And one day she was like, I was gonna say I was gonna send it to my friend.
And then I realized I don't know what she said about me.
I said, yeah, maybe you should read it before you go passing along to your new friend.
Speaker 3Like so interesting, my mom hasn't read them, But like, what does your mom say?
Speaker 4See but that's what I'm saying, Like it's like whatever, you don't have to read the book, but like it's always like this little thing that's not quite you.
Speaker 2No, she's afraid to read the book.
My mom told me she's afraid to read the book to see what I wrote about her.
Speaker 3Your mom's also afraid.
Speaker 2I can only imagine that's the only reason they're not.
Speaker 4Okay, Yes, the book I get.
Okay, the podcast I get, yes, yes, yes, But I think throughout my life, like there were moments where I wanted her to cheer for me harder, you know, like I needed her to like really go there, you know, like really celebrate me in a way that felt, and not give me any critiques afterwards.
Well next time, oh shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3There, just let it be.
Speaker 4Yeah, And there was always like the critique because she wanted me to be the best, and you know, thankfully, you know, I am because of that, but not but not without some fucking anxiety.
Yeah.
Yeah, So wait, I need to get a napkin.
Speaker 2Okay, this is a great backwood.
I'm gonna smoke it, just regular like a cigar, like a big papa.
Speaker 4Okay.
So I told Mila that the trick to tasting the flavors of the backwoods, and you have to actually smoke it like a real cigar.
The flavor, the great flavor is keep moving.
My mic I told Jamila that the trick smoking backwood is you have to actually smoke the whole backwood with the shit inside, because the flavoring is in the stuffing.
We take the stuffing out to put the weed in, like I'm about to do, because I think I've doctored up my backwood the way I'm.
Speaker 2Gonna get cursed out for smoking a full cigar in my bed.
Speaker 4Well, I'm yeah, I'm smoking in my house too, because I'm not going outside.
But see, this is the this is why, this is what I've waited for.
This is what adulthood is about.
Speaker 3Do whatever the fuck you want smoke.
Speaker 4In my house.
Shut the fuck up, leave me alone, I read, Go upstairs, go close the door.
Speaker 2Okay, it's actually not as bad, like as bad as I thought it'd be.
Speaker 4It's not so bad.
And do you taste the grape?
Speaker 2I do.
Speaker 3It is more grapy than if I would have put the weed in here.
Speaker 4Mm, I'm not mad at this, doesn't he don't you feel like a like a sophisticated and.
Speaker 2I got my collared shirt on.
I feel like like a Cuban mommy.
You're not gonna be poppy.
Speaker 4Don't inhale too much.
Just like you know, let the just like you know, like the Cubans do.
They just like let it sit in their mad Give me a Bobby gimme.
Yeah, it's not even the shirt, it's the it's the head wrap for me.
Speaker 5Baby, I've had four inches of hair out for three days and I'm.
Speaker 2Already over it.
Speaker 4You want to cut it again.
Speaker 2I'm either gonna get braids, so I'm gonna get braids to go to Bali.
But yeah, I don't know how long this is gonna last.
Baby, that's not total November bitch.
Like I'm gonna get braids.
I'm gonna get braids.
Speaker 3Maybe I need to get it.
Maybe I need to get my hair done.
Speaker 2I need something to do it for me.
I'm not like well versed on more than three inches of hair yet.
I haven't had hair since like all I was pregnant with Linda.
Speaker 4I was gonna take these braids.
I think I put my weave back in.
I think it's I think it's falls for weaves.
Speaker 2Oh you know what, Actually, I have I have some clippings.
Remember that time I clippins that time I burnt my hair out with herm Yeah, I still have them, I remember.
Oh my god.
I don't know if you guys remember I told this story.
It was like three years ago.
I over processed.
I was doing my own hair all the time for like a decade, and I thought I was a professional.
And I left the perman while I was cleaning my room because I just did it so many times.
I just knew, I knew what I was doing, and baby about I had a cute little hairstyle.
And about three days later I moved the bang baby, and all of this was gone.
That okay gone And blessed Orlando's heart because that was right around the time we went out of town together for thirty days and I had to like no braids could go right here because it was too short.
And he still loved me, but that shit was bald for like at least two months.
Speaker 3So now I go to the hairdresser.
Speaker 4I'm so happy that you finally started doing going to the hairdresser, because for a good part of our first four years of friendship, you were like I do my own hair.
I cut my own hair.
I do my own hair.
Speaker 2I did it all.
I did it all.
Speaker 4Go get your hair done.
Speaker 3Tell me I wasn't a professional hairstylist.
Why was I cutting my own hair.
Speaker 4I mean, you were doing okay, but like, you know, it looks better now that you actually went and got it professionally done.
You know, it's like a little there was a little helmet action sometimes looking a little helmety at times.
Speaker 2Hey hey, hey, you gonna you're gonna You're gonna be easy on my hairstyle.
Speaker 4The helmet daser over because you stopped going to super Cuts.
And I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3I did go to Supercuts a couple of times.
Speaker 2I was like, just cut it.
I can do the rest.
I know you're dead.
Speaker 4I was like, bitch, if you go to Fantastic Sam's.
Speaker 2When we're having short hair is a commitment.
You have to either keep it cut, you have to keep it done.
Like there's no ponytails.
If I could have a pony tail, i'd be fine.
It's just it doesn't exist.
Speaker 4Okay, Now I'm slight.
Speaker 2I'm not mad at this at all.
Actually, I told you nice, you're going for it.
Speaker 4I see you over there, you keep smoking it.
Speaker 2Okay, backwoods I want to go to I want to go to the Dominican Republic and go on a backwoods tour.
Okay, backwards.
Hello, it's me Mila Mapp.
If you hear this, I'm trying to get to the dr and go to the farm and see what's going on there.
I've never been to a tobacco farm.
So send the.
Speaker 4Invite, ignore that, ignore her.
She's fine, she's going upstairs.
Speaker 2Got this?
Speaker 4Okay, So this backward?
What am I smoking?
Because it was a backwood cemetery.
I don't even know which one it came from at this point.
Speaker 3I think it looks like Aromatic or something.
Speaker 4Yeah, this is the la Aromatic, which is my favorite backwood Actually this one.
Speaker 2You know, I think that we need to spend more time.
Do we need to have like a cigar bar meetup?
I feel like that'd be sexy.
Also, if anybody's listening in their single, the cigar bars is where those older, more distinguished sugar daddies are at the One time I went to a cigar bar with Ashley a La, the old niggas were on me.
Speaker 3I mean, that's just my m O.
In general, older niggas love me.
Speaker 2But ladies, this cigar bar is where it's at if you like a little salt and pepper, silver fox and they usually have jobs.
Hm hm.
Speaker 4Anyway, now that I've smoked, I've cried, I've smoke, I'm smoking.
What a day you.
Speaker 2Came at my?
My helmet hair from two thousand and fucking fifteen?
What else?
Speaker 3What else is on the agenda?
Speaker 4I was on the internet perusing through the podcasting scoope and I happened to fall upon this clip.
It's with the podcast with Paul Pierce and Azar.
Shout out to Azar, she's been at good Good Media before.
Why is this not staying?
Let I actually know it's our sister, and they're so different.
Actually they're not that different.
They're kind of the same.
They just they look different.
Speaker 3But the clip, I fucking hate Paul Pierce.
Speaker 2I don't hate him because I don't know him personally, but the five clips that I've seen and his opinions are never hitting.
Speaker 4So let's just play the clip.
Let's play the clip so people can know what we're talking about.
Speaker 3Did you want I'm about to revisit it right the funck now?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Go ahead and rewatch it?
Speaker 2Wait?
Where did it go?
Speaker 3Instagram?
Speaker 2A right here it is.
Speaker 6Are you men who stand up?
Men who go out there and put your elbow into making a woman make sure she's straight and hard working and respectable, chest up, checking out men?
And you really on the grind and you really got ambition.
M leave these little pretty girls alone, bro, they don't put their elbow in there.
I'm gonna keep it one hundred over there looking at Oh she bad, Oh look at her Instagram?
Oh she an shell.
I'll get you a five or six.
Who's gonna put some elbow into it?
Ain't gonna be down for you on some one hundred.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6They gonna look at you like, why are you with her?
Don't worry about while with her, because she's gonna do everything you ain't doing.
Fellas like, man, forget all that how you around her?
Speaker 2Now?
Speaker 5She ain't.
Speaker 3She ain't got no substance to her now, she got no s sence because she's pretty.
Speaker 2So basically, he's alluding to the fact that pretty girls don't think they have to work hard in a relationship.
Speaker 4What pretty goala hurt you, Paul?
Speaker 2What that's my next Google Paul Pierce's ex wife, because I'm sure she's a baddie and she probably took a lot of his money, as she should have.
You know, first of all, this is disrespectful to all women.
Speaker 4And I think when he's re Landrum.
They divorced in twenty twenty three.
This may only been single four seconds.
Julie is cute, Of course she is.
That's why he feels that way now, Julie, Julie looked like she was She wasn't even outside like that.
Okay, she was probably probably a lawyer or some shit.
Look at Julie.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, she is cute.
He looks too smart to be with the fuckery, is what the problem is.
They don't want smart bitches.
They don't want bitches who have a clue, because as soon as I have a clue, I'm gonna know you're on some bullshit and you're gonna have to be accountable, and that would just be too motherfucking hard.
Speaker 3And I think that's really what he's saying.
Speaker 4And you know, I honestly he's been married for thirteen years.
This man got divorced in twenty twenty three.
Granted I don't know when they broke up.
Maybe they broke up in two that the twenty twenties.
I don't know, but obviously you probably want on your whole face.
Okay, let's just be honest, Paul.
You broke up with Julie Gott with Forrest.
Speaker 2What on another clip?
I just when you said that just reminded me.
On another clip that I saw, this is the one that pissed me off.
He said that his homeboy said that his side bitch is the one who told him to say with his wife.
He said, his side bitch is the one who kept him married for ten years because the side bitch was rooting for the wife.
And I'm so basically that it's good to have a side bitch because he comes home.
Speaker 4Don't how about fellas, don't take any advice from this man.
That should tell you enough.
Okay, Like, what are you talking about?
First of all, you got divorced, probably started dating a bunch of girls that probably aren't very smart, because by design, I think a lot of men prefer men women that are not very smart because then they can control them and they just get what they want.
So you're it's like, it's like what men always say to women, like it's who you chose, You chose them, You chose them, nigga, you chose her.
Speaker 3Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2Because there's niggas love to tell us we chose our baby daddy, we chose them, and then but you chose, you choose women and then cheat on him.
Speaker 4So what in the man is that just like a five nigga will break your heart, A five bitch will still break your heart.
Nigga, I can't wait for you to find out.
Go ahead, go get you a five or six?
Speaker 2Go ahead, baby, He's but he's basically saying that, in his opinion, whoever he thinks which beauty is relative, whoever he thinks is a five or six, is going to be so happy to have his ass that they are going to just polish shoes, cook dinner, white ass.
I don't know what, you know, what I really want to know.
This is like a this is a public question.
I want to know in today's society, what is it that men like outside of submitting, because that's a very general thing.
What do men think that women like?
What is he what does he want us to put elbow like?
How do we put elbow grease like?
What does that mean to him?
Speaker 4Like?
Speaker 2Suck extra dick, like full all the clothes, Like is it the domestic role?
Speaker 3Like not going out?
Speaker 4It sounds like hard labor.
Speaker 2Yeah, Like so that's what I want to know, Like do they expect us to like is it like is it like the domestic thing?
They don't think like these new modern numbers domestic.
We don't cook, win unclean, we're not taking care of the children.
We just want to be in the streets.
Like I'm really wondering what this means because there's so many like gender wars.
I'm really so fucking sick of hearing about the shit Like we need each other, we love each other, we'd be fucking on each other.
Remind us I see, Like I feel like men like this are men who have this mentality we're gonna get replaced with AI.
Speaker 4But also like we're putting our value on how you, Paul, are all still putting value on like how a woman looks?
Do you know what I mean?
Like there's no like what is a five or six?
A five or six and looks a five or six in her career?
A five or six?
What what scope of five or six?
We're just talking about pretty bitches.
I guess he did say pretty bitches.
So we think that if we get a less attractive person, she's going to be smarter because pretty people are not intelligent.
Speaker 3No, not smarter.
Speaker 2She said they're gonna put elbow grease.
He didn't say, Hey, they don't want smart women.
That is the problem.
Men don't want partners.
If you pick a partner, when you pick a business partner, you want someone let's smart.
Speaker 4Let's not let's not generalize men.
We just said, we said we're not going to drive.
Speaker 3I said, men with this, men with this mentality, this mentality.
Yeah, yeah, sure, Men with this.
Speaker 2Mentality prefer women who or not thinking because then they can get away with doing over the fuck.
They want men who with this mentality that are in or on the social media fucking going hard about the submission.
And even that one very cringey clip about that guy on that God podcast saying he prefers to date younger women because older women don't listen, baby, you want someone with less experience that you can get over on.
Speaker 3And to me, that is questionable, like why would one pick a partner.
Speaker 2It's like if we're playing fucking volleyball and I get to pick my team and I pick the fucking dumbest ones.
Or if I'm in the science bawl and I'm gonna pick my team for the fucking end of the year project, I'm gonna pick the dumb like the people who don't study, who don't show up to class.
Speaker 3That doesn't make any sense.
If you want to build a.
Speaker 2Strong family aka team, you're gonna pick the strongest players, the smartest players, with the most strategy, with the most power forward.
I don't know if you're trying to speak in your language.
I don't really know this language, but I'm trying here.
You're gonna pick the d one picks at the top schools, right the best athletic abilities.
If you're gonna go to the checker fucking tournament, you're gonna pick the best strategy, the best checker players.
Speaker 3Why in the fuck do men go on these podcasts a lot of.
Speaker 2Men, not all of them, and then rally behind wanting women that are just submissive or are basically not smart.
You're asking for women to not have an opinion and to not say shit and to follow you blindly because you don't value our input, and so you would prefer to be with women who don't ask any questions.
But if nobody's asking questions, you don't want someone to question you.
And like you don't want a strong family, you want a weak ass bitch because you don't want to be questioned.
And any good democracy, any strong kingdom, is going to have a board to collectively discuss the issues at hand, because every king, every kingdom needs what is the right hand man in fucking King of Thrones?
No, no, the squad, the nigga, you know, the right or the queen or the council.
This is just a relative thing to say, Hey, I am the king and I am the queen, but I might I need input from the smartest motherfucker's up in this village?
What's up?
Speaker 3So I'm gonna pick the smartest partner.
Speaker 2If men don't want strong if you want to a strong family, a strong lineage with the best players, you're going to pick the best leads.
And if you keep saying publicly, I'm going to assume you want you you want a weak ass family.
Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4It's just like I think there's a level.
I think most men say they believe that they're kings, but most men don't even know what they would define a king.
Speaker 1To be.
Speaker 4So it's just something that people embody through the alpha male, or they think they're embodying through this title of being an alpha male, which is a lot of which is an associated so much a topic whatever fucking words around that we've made up.
You know, it's just do you want the Kingdom?
Speaker 3Do you even know?
Speaker 4Do you even believe that you come from the kingdom?
Do you even believe?
Do you understand?
Like no, the answer is no.
Speaker 2And it's it's true because when you talk about leading, and you talk about submission and you talk about these things, they like, what is your plan for your family?
Speaker 3What is it that you want?
Speaker 2Because I know.
Speaker 4Because they're rarely worried about what we bring to the table, very much worried about what's happening over here in our kitchen.
Speaker 2Meanwhile, meanwhile, their version of kingdom is dropping a bunch of sperm off into different bitches without having to commit to any of them and setting that example for their the princes and the princesses of the kingdom.
Speaker 3So what does that say?
Speaker 2And like, this brings me to our other clip that I saw this week on the fucking internet, which was I thought it was interesting because we it was on Breakfast Club and they ask Sierra how does she feel about people on social media calling Russell Wilson a simp or a lame or corny, and she was like, I don't think.
Speaker 3Should have it because who's saying it, and it's true.
Speaker 2I don't think people realize what a loser you have to be to criticize a man taking care of.
Speaker 3His family and being a great dad, He's a simp.
Speaker 2You don't want another niggas showing other niggas the example of what a good father and husband look like, because you want the bar to be in hell still because that's where you thrive.
Speaker 3And so you don't even know what the fuck.
Speaker 2It means to lead and to be a king and to have a lineage that is strong because you're over here criticizing the man that's doing it.
Speaker 4No, No, I loved her answer.
I loved her answer.
She's I love Sierra.
I'm like, I've always liked Sierra, but I think I'm a a season of loving Sierra.
I just think that she has like she's been.
She's like, first of all, she is stuck around.
Okay, should you say what you want about Sierra?
That bitch got hits okay, and she just leads with so much integrity.
Speaker 2Yeah, she's always you know what she does the Michelle Obama thing.
She doesn't go low, she goes hi.
She's just class.
Speaker 4Yeah, and it feels very genuine, you know.
And it's like, I think that's why she's had the career that she's had, Like whether or not she's had the hit or not or didn't have to hit, like, she's always been able to be invited, you know, she's always been there, and I think it's been so vulnerable about her journey.
You know, she's made bad mistake Sierra and fucking Future well, I can't even I don't like that that who is that Sierra?
But you know, like that's the other side of her.
Speaker 2But but she's from Atlanta, you know, she's from Atlanta.
But I think that's also important to look at.
Like we niggas praise Future fucking Nevade Nevedas or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 3His name is.
Speaker 2They love the Tavious.
They follow him blindly, everything sip the syrup drop off.
He has like nine kids by nine different women, And like, I'm not Jesus, I'm not here to judge.
But the point is, you fucking rally behind that shit, sipping syrup, nodding off and having a bunch of kids by different women.
But then you see a man who comes and takes care of his children, is president in their children's lives, takes care of his wife, and is taking care of the child of somebody else, And that's who you criticize.
That is something we have to collectively look at at as a society because that's wild.
Obviously the men have gotten not all men, but a lot of the men, and unfortunately a lot of the young men have gotten this.
This ps that got this memo that hating women and like leading a strong household is in some ways negative, and.
Speaker 3That's wild as hell.
Speaker 4It's corny.
Speaker 3That's fucking corny crazy.
It's so corny.
Speaker 2And also it's like when I think about the gender wars and all these things, you know, like Orlando's very proud to be a husband, Like He's like, I've always wanted to be a husband.
This is really important to me.
He's like, I really my goal is to like have like watch my grandkids play.
I don't think I've never heard a nigga ever say no shit like that, Like I didn't even think about that, you know what I mean?
And I think because we don't see a lot of examples of men saying those type of things publicly, like I've really like Orlando is a whore from whore Island.
Speaker 3Of course he's been, you know, in the streets, but he's also been very.
Speaker 2Clear about wanting to be a husband and wanting to be a father, and like when he came into our lives in a very uncomfortable way, he was like, I'm i'm my daughter, Like I'm taking this role on very seriously as a stepfather and as like I know that we're growing into something.
Speaker 3And that made me be like, oh shit.
Speaker 2First of all, I was like this nigga's a little crazy, and also maybe be like, okay, what does that mean to me?
But so often we don't hear men have pride in these roles that it doesn't trigger us to have to think about what it means to be a wife.
And I'm just saying that, And this is as someone who I did want to be married.
I did as a little girl, I wanted to be married, and I'd like I had this idea, but I very rarely heard men say that, and so it's taken me until I'm actually like coming into this place to be like, shit, what.
Speaker 3Does it mean to be a good wife?
Speaker 2Like like how do I pour back into this person that values me and values my our relationships so much and that I mirror it?
And to be honest, it's kind of like intimidating sometimes because I'm like, fuck, I didn't study, I didn't read the book because I was so I was banking on niggas nigging because that's what I've seen, even the example of the man in my own household who I love and adored and has always been a present father.
My dad's always been in my life, always lived in my household.
Speaker 4But did he do some.
Speaker 3Functionhit of course, and did they breed trust issues?
Obviously?
Speaker 2And my dad is someone who values marriage and being a father, but his actions didn't always look that way.
So it didn't like I'm not one of those people who's like when I heard Cam Newton's baby Mama go on Shamboo Drim Show and say how much she like spoils, how spoiled her man is, it made me cringe And then you're like, I don't think so, And I was like, damn, am I a bitch?
Speaker 3Why does that make me cringe?
Speaker 2And I realize I feel resentment, a lot of resentment towards men because they don't show up in a way that has cared for us, and especially black men to black women.
And I'm probably looking at the comments too often and seeing all the losers comment.
I have to also know that.
But I'm realizing, like hearing men say positive things about marriage, about their women, about their families is really important for the leading for us to assume our position.
And I'm realizing that now, like I'm thankful for men like Russell.
I'm thankful for men like Orlando, you know, so that I know, like, oh, it's okay to take pride in this role when you're being taken care of and this is what it looks like.
And so I just, yeah, shout out to Russell for being the best stepdaddy on the internet and making these nigga step out of their game instead of thinking that taking care of somebody else's kids is lame and whack.
Speaker 4Yeah, No, I think that I think he's I think men feel very intimidated by It's like it's like a mirror when you see a man, and Russell's so unbothered too.
Like he's he's so unbothered, he's just wearing his sunglasses, you know, with his little fine self.
So fine are living their fucking life, and I would I understand why they're mad.
They're mad, you know, and you do have to be careful who who the messenger is important.
That's why she said, like who said it?
Who's saying?
Speaker 3What household did they grow up in?
Speaker 1What?
What?
Speaker 2What example of love have they received?
And so yeah, like if you haven't had a loving household or a loving father, of course you're going to reject the idea of what that looks like and think it's some corn ball shaite because you're following fat you're following fucking the Tavis and the trap boy on the corner or some rapper nigga that it's also been neglected and it is craving love and is wounded.
Speaker 3So it's just wounded wounded leaders and wounded soldiers all fucking following each other.
And that's problematic.
Speaker 4Yeah, you know what else is problematic?
Moving on to our our last topic because we gotta go, But I'm here to say, do I need we need like a donkey of the day on fucking good moments?
Speaker 3What we can what would they be called?
Speaker 2Oh my god, I don't know, the bad, bad for real?
Speaker 4Yeah, this is actually bad.
Speaker 3So what will our donkey of the day be called?
Speaker 4This is actually bad?
Speaker 2Okay, bad for real?
Okay, bad for real, bad for real.
This is bad for real, no for real?
Okay, so this is bad, like for real, for real?
This is this is bad.
Speaker 4I'm disappointed.
Speaker 2I really am.
Speaker 4I'm not even gonna front I.
You know, I kind of thought there was something going on, something a little off when she married the white man.
Okay, I was like, but he seemed joyful and jolly, so I you know, I was like, enrich as fuck.
So I said, okay, all right, maybe maybe he's like the cool white nerd from you know that you could hang out with at the party at the keegar that the keegar.
Then she started playing with her face and I was like, what are you doing?
What's happening?
Is there an identity thing going on?
Speaker 2Like what are you're beautiful?
Speaker 4Or I know this woman also has been highly critiqued, highly critiqued.
Okay, she is like at the highest level.
And this is because this is actually bad.
It's not the donkey the day.
I'm just saying this is actually bad.
I think that nothing could take away the the incredible accomplishments and who she is to black people period.
I just want to say that, including myself.
But unfortunately Serena Williams is now a spokesperson for a weight loss drug that you inject into your body that's basically like ozembic.
It's called a GLP one or some shit and which sounds like the date rape drug just FYI to me, which is why it probably is like feels even more gross in my mind.
And I just feel like this is so irresponsible as just someone with so much influence and who has like rose to the ranks, the highest ranks in athleticism in.
Speaker 2Just like she's she's like.
Speaker 4A fucking gladiator gladiatress.
And I just think that like so many people look up to her, young girls look up to her, like I just she has millions of dollars she can take this medicine and like be monitored and make sure everything's going well.
People are gonna start injecting themselves this weight loss thing, which they've already started to be get do in general, but we've never had a black woman come out as a spokesperson for this type of weight loss stuff.
We've seen Oprah.
You know she did weight watch?
Was it weight Watchers?
Was Oprah weight Watchers?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2For years I'd say, yeah, I forgot about that.
Weight Watchers was just like a diet, but that was just shake yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 4But this is like we're putting we're putting things into our body that are not even for us, but for people with like other health conditions.
I mean that you can repackage it and change up the ingredients here and there, but let's be honest, like this is for something else.
And I'm just disappointed.
I'm disappointed in Serena.
I'm worried about what this is already doing.
And the reason why I'm disappointed too is because then I learned that her husband is on the board of this company that she is advertising for that has made has gotten her to lose all this weight that she said she was struggling to lose with of course, after having a baby and still working out like three times a day, training playing in like the US Open, and still not being able to get to the weight that she wanted.
Speaker 2But she was never at that weight.
Speaker 4That was not her body.
We've never seen her at that weight, even in her prime, in her youngest years, Like she's like thin.
Speaker 2Now I have to go look.
I saw the advertise, I saw her talking about it.
I was a little bit surprised too.
Speaker 4I was shocked.
Speaker 2I think it's very you could be very, very cautious about endorsing medical anything because we all have different bodies and react differently.
Speaker 3And we all know that ozempic is getting hit.
Speaker 2With a lot of lawsuits, like a billion dollars both of lawsuits because of side effects.
And I also it's again we have to look at society and like how much pressure we put on women, like for the sake of vanity and like not loving ourselves as is.
And I know, blah blah blah.
I'm ninety eight pounds, you know, but I could.
I want to be thicker.
But what I'm not gonna go get ass injected in Colombia because this is the body God gave me.
I have a big problem with.
Recently, we discovered that somebody that used to be our friend, who's always.
Speaker 3Meaning yesterday, No, it's been about five months.
Speaker 4You knew for five months.
Speaker 2No no, no, no, no no no no oh yeah recently, no, I knew it for a couple of weeks.
I thought I told you, I thought we stopped being friends.
Wait, this is new, like this is a new thing that just happened.
No, this has been happened.
Speaker 4Okay, that's what I thought.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2I just I just found out that a friend, an old ex friend of ours, who's always working out in the gym and like promoting working out, has a BBL.
Okay, And it's like, I don't give a fuck about you getting a BBL.
I live in LA.
Everybody has fake boobs and fake shit and does a little Okay.
I realized that to each its own.
However, when you were promoting health and wellness and talking about you doing squats and you got that ass from squats and I'm over here doing the squats and it's not coming in that way, I'm gonna be confused.
Speaker 3So I think that is problematic, and she's being honest about it.
Speaker 2But I just yeah, and I honestly, I've I feel really sad because I know how criticized she's been, and you know, just as like a dark skin, brown skin, black woman, just the how difficult it is to be in the spotlight and to be in Hollywood and to be in these spaces, and like they've always criticized her, her body, her ass.
They tried to make it seem like she couldn't wear the tennis skirm.
Everybody else's worried because baby, this is this is a black woman's body.
I mean not mine specifically, but I'm just saying like everybody has a different shape and size and color, and they we're all beautiful on our own right.
Speaker 3And like for black women, dark skinned black women.
Speaker 2Specifically, hair type, lips, all these things that people run out and go get to fucking mimic us we are criticized for.
And this person has been criticized so deeply.
Buy it her own people.
Speaker 4How people?
Yeah, I think it's like I feel like we need to call in a prayer for a serena for real, because I feel like, like so much of this because I'm thinking just about I can't like her blonde hair.
I'm like, there's a lot of.
Speaker 3Like, well but I understand, I understand it.
I understand I have blonde hair.
Speaker 4To right, right, but but I just I just mean, like, as I'm looking at her, I don't know, I feel this like energy of like how could you not be insecure, how like I would be insecure.
Shit I matter how to god a no's job or did a lot of other shit.
Well she did, but like I would probably succumb to the pressure too.
You know, yeah, she's human, and you know my only thing is though that.
But you don't need to promote this, Just go do it.
Then we don't need to know that what you did.
No one asked bitch, she lost this weight like one year ago.
We were moved on already, Like.
Speaker 2But okay, what if your nigga had a business and he was like, yo, if you've been taking.
Speaker 4It, I would know this, but I would understand the way of the responsibility that I hold, the power that I yield, the repercussions that this medicine could have on someone who's young, who doesn't have like the doctors that are going to make sure that she doesn't have her any underlying conditions of any sort, like.
Speaker 2I just don't.
Speaker 4And also the fact that like, as women, we already carry so much shame around the way our body looks, and that we must be smaller, Like why did she need to be smaller?
Was she unhealthy?
Like why was it that she needed to go down to this weight I understand, Like was it just for her own comfortability because she'd never been at that weight before, Like she'd always this has been her hopes.
Speaker 2And dreams to be Some people are not just made or not made skinny.
Speaker 3It's just every a lot like.
Speaker 2You, no, a lot of people.
Speaker 4The reason why she is a superb athlete is because of the strength and body mass that she yields, you know what I mean, Like there's that she's Our bodies are what they are, And I just feel like this is really bad.
This is bad for real, because I just I'm worried and I'm concerned.
There's already so much that our kids are gonna see on the internet every day, right, that's gonna like beat at them.
But like I feel like she is gold.
She's like she's the gold standard in so many ways, so inspirational, and I don't know, I just I'm worried.
I'm concerned.
Speaker 3She must be getting a big kickback from this endorsement.
Speaker 4Which of course she is, duh.
Her husband's on the board, I just told you, and she's Serena.
She doesn't take a fucking endorsement deal under fucking five million dollars.
I'm sure, maybe more like that's the that's the level of excellence that she's at, like and demands and people give to her as a black woman.
That's why I'm like, why you don't even need this?
Speaker 2You're rich.
Speaker 4Your husband invented snapchat?
Like what do you Oh I did, yes, yes, he's one of the co founders of Snapchat.
You didn't need this check Like what the fuck are you doing?
Just shut up and take your medicine, get skinny, and don't tell us about it like everybody else, like everyone else, Like what the fuck I'm not telling everyone?
Like oh I got botox and I want to be the phrase of bo talks like I barely want to fucking post my doctor if she's gonna give me a discount, like shit, like can we make it something else?
Speaker 2It's me getting a facial, yes, facial me.
Well, this is the world and much we live in and welcome to it.
I'm struggling every day to exist here.
But apparently I'm supposed to be in this time and this time.
Speaker 4So I thought about that.
I was like, wonder why God chose me to be here at this time time, all this shit going on so specific, Like why didn't I get to skip this one, like why not the next one?
Speaker 2Well, and you know what it is.
They're every single soul who's here at this time.
There is a reason we're we're supposed to fight against the machine.
Speaker 3We have what it takes.
Speaker 2We're here in this time because there is something that we are supposed to birth that is supposed to shift it.
And I want you guys to remember that what is inside of you that is supposed to be shifting and you know, pushing this society forward.
It's definitely not endorsing GBLK or whatever the fuck, but there's something there and that's how we know we have the strength and the tenacity.
I hope that's the right word to exist in this time amongst war and crime, and hate and self hate and highly highly criticized and shallowness and ignorance.
Speaker 4That's why we have to it's more important than ever that we take care of ourselves, that we lean into love, help, the healing, the love, the connectedness to one another.
We have got to we need to connect like we've got to connect.
We've got to stay connected.
There trying to disconnect.
Speaker 2Us, especially with AI truly, I you know, like.
Speaker 4It's it's we have to still go to the functions.
We have to call our friends in human and not just fucking text each other.
We got to get our kids off this shit because they're the future.
They're the ones that are gonna have to be able to be soldiers like we're these Our children have got to be like peaceful soldiers, right, but like no pressure.
Speaker 2But also yeah, I mean they have to know the reality of what's actually going on, and like we have to live in the reality.
But also yeah, from a loving space and go to the concert, do the art, do the things that they're trying to replace us with, and like you can't replace human connection and genuine creation.
Speaker 4And like, yeah, I was gonna say I was having this thought about AI today because I've been used.
I was so resistant to it for a really long time, and then I've been using it more and more lately, and then I've also been like staying abreast to like how it's the destruction it's causing to our environment and like real destruction, like bad.
And also like how I saw my baby daddy of like of course he like popped up on an article my phone today and he was talking about and I didn't even consider this, like rappers using AI to write their raps, and how like the art of rapping is like its gonna be a dying art form because there's these AI rappers coming.
Speaker 2Through shut up AI wraps.
Speaker 4Yes, bitch, I mean it makes sense.
Speaker 2I mean yeah, I just didn't consider it me neither.
Speaker 4But I'm also thinking, like, how how numb our brains are gonna go because we're not doing any critical thinking.
We have a thought and that's about it.
We have a thought and then we put the thought in chat shept and then it expands the consciousness until we do not have consciousness, until we're fucking just dumb bodies roaming around the earth like fucking robots.
Speaker 2And there's gonna be a hybrid.
It's it's gonna it's creating a human AI.
Speaker 4Hybrid for real, and then they're gonna But that's why I feel like the aliens are waiting to see how stupid we are.
We gonna like be able to go into like these other higher intelligence are we gonna get advised to the higher intelligence, party out and burned down and start all over again, do the over and over.
Speaker 3If I was the aliens, I wouldn't let us in the laughing at us.
Speaker 2I would laugh at us too.
Speaker 3I'm laughing us and I'm in this bitch like these niggas are.
Speaker 2Damn.
Trump the other day said he's changing stuff in the museums at the Smithsonian Simsonian.
Speaker 4Wait, but wait, do you know why I'm too racist?
No, we said, talking about slavery.
Speaker 3No, he said, because the America is the hottest country.
And he won't let that.
Speaker 2I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
America's the hottest, the hottest country.
And why would we talk like this, like we need to be more positive because America is the hottest country, the hottest So if you haven't heard, America's the hottest country.
Bitches game with the program.
So much focus on slavery.
Speaker 3So much fogs on favery, Like, come on, we're the hottest country.
Speaker 2Stop.
Speaker 4We gotta remarket America.
We gotta remarket.
We're gonna make it great again.
And we're gonna remarket this bitch.
We're gonna raise slavery.
Speaker 2Delay it.
Speaker 3It doesn't look good on a reputation.
Yeah, people are sealed.
Speaker 4It see slavery being sealed.
Speaker 3I mean, if he can do it, he's gonna do it.
Speaker 4It's high thoughts.
They're gonna, they're gonna slavery being sealed a big shield document and anyone knows it seemed.
Speaker 1To be a movie.
Speaker 4They're burning book even though it ever existed.
Speaker 3Oh my god, that's a good movie.
Speaker 4And then what I'm saying, where black people don't even know it existed, but they know their bodies are tellent like reacting to think something.
Speaker 2I mean, somewhere in the world black people, there's a black person who doesn't really know about it.
There's there's black people our age right now who don't Did you watch the Amaza Bitch in small doses?
Because I was getting pissed the fuck off and that, and that's what I mean.
There are black people that exist right now that do not understand the severity of American history to the African American history, and that is what that's what they're trying to promote so that we think that black people won't shut the fuck up about it, and it's it wasn't that bad, and it advanced us, and everyone had slavery just like it everywhere, cattle slavery, No biggie, everybody relaxed.
Speaker 3Keep comes the hottest country.
Speaker 2We're fucked.
Sorry, never mind being positive positivity.
At this point, you might as well just like rock out with your balls out and go hard on the pleasure and like don't go too I mean, like don't kill yourself, but just like have fun, bitches, because America is the hottest country and Slavery's files are getting sealed soon, So.
Speaker 4Get out one this one piece of advice.
Guy.
Guys, if you don't stop buying land in America, stop trying to buy and own here, just start thinking big, bitch.
You gotta think big bitch.
You know what I think the aliens you're not even gonna be thinking big.
You're gonna like actually probably spend less money, get virtual, do what you gotta do whatever, Only fans, TikTok.
Just figure it out, figure out how you can.
Speaker 2Get the fuck out of here, you know what.
I just you know, I hadn't thought about this from an economical standpoint before, but now with the recession on the rise and America being the hottest country, only fans.
I mean, like, if you're successful, like the sex industry might be the only thing that's not going to be fucked when everything else goes down.
Speaker 4I mean, you know they're gonna they're gonna fuck that too.
Speaker 2Okay, Oh, you're right, because there's AI porn.
Now there's AI porn, and eventually they're gonna fuck that too.
Speaker 4Like no, they're gonna like govere governor, gover, govert andize governor.
Speaker 2I'm a high as hell government.
Speaker 4The government is going to control only sands, mark my words.
Okay, you see that Trump announced that that now the government owns ten percent of Intel, you.
Speaker 2Know, like in quick the computer problem.
Wow, who does a government?
Speaker 4The government?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Why I don't know.
Speaker 4But Trump negotiated the deal, baby, because he's the hot Marketer negotiator.
And I'm pretty sure that that means like there's going to be control over a lot more of what we're doing with our money, what we're doing with our habits.
Like eventually the government will own Apple.
Like if you can do that, then you can own ten percent of Apple, Then you can own ten percent of you know what I mean?
Like we have a privacy, Yeah, there's no, there's privacy is done.
It's even like why have you put a privacy clause on an app at this point?
Like you signed your life away?
When I saw that shit about global global entry, global entry or TSA global entry.
Then you basically signed away your rights like they can stop you.
They have all your information, they're tracking you now me us, Yeah, we are us.
The only good thing going for us is that we do have property outside of the country.
Now it's just time to build on it, bitch.
Speaker 2I'm thinking we'll have a better chance that the aliens take us if we're not even on American soil, they may consider it.
Speaker 3I also heard recently that I feel.
Speaker 4Like Costa Rica's last on the list at Costa Rica.
Maybe Africa, like Africa, has like this protective orb around it.
Speaker 3News flash, the aliens are black.
Speaker 2Okay, Yeah, just just sot everybody to know.
Speaker 3It's true.
Speaker 4Okay, I mean, what's what's your theory there?
Speaker 2My theory is that Africa is the oldest civilization.
The oldest are like the oldest, the oldest first people were black.
And if you think about us not knowing, first of all, they shrunk Africa on the map to confuse everybody.
Second of all, they still don't know how the fucking pyramids got there.
Indigenous and black people came from a different star seed and everything else.
Speaker 4Every I feel like there's black people from Earth and from I feel like it was a collaboration.
Speaker 3Yeah, it was a collaboration.
Speaker 4But the thing because then, because then why would we grow from?
Why are we connected to mother nature?
There has to be a connection between us.
Speaker 2We're a hybrid of this, of this, this extraterrestrial and whatever else was here on We're a hybrid to this atmosphere.
Yes, I mean I also heard that there is an ancient civilization of extraterrestrial that looked like white Jesus.
So there's probably a couple of looks in the in the galaxies.
But we're the oldest and we dominate most of the galaxies internationally, intergalactically.
And I just want you guys to know, when they come to get us white people, how you've been acting, it may not fly in the other galaxy.
Okay, Trump, Racism does not exist outside of this gully behind.
Speaker 4Leave him behind please and all his minions.
Speaker 3I think I'm gonna go watch that movie look Up again.
Speaker 4No, oh my god, that movie stressed me out.
Now I want to go watch Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 2Wait, what's the what's the other one where they have like a party because it's the Last Days and channing to get him was in it?
Speaker 3Maybe maybe I watched this in it that's a little bit funnier.
Speaker 2That one's a little funny look up was that it was too it was it was too real.
It was like a satire, but it was true with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Yeah, anyway, I hope this didn't give you more anxiety.
I hope listening to Good Moms this Wednesday, you know, brought you down.
I hope that you say hi to your mom and that you love her, and that everybody in your life that maybe you have resistance too.
I hope this episode reminds you just just soften.
We're all human, we're all going through shit, we all are having experience, and we're here to be connected in real life, not to get further from each other, to be closer to each other and closer to ourselves.
So if there is space to grow and expand, I invite you to do that and lean in.
We love you.
Speaker 3Do we have affirmation.
Speaker 4The aliens are coming rock out with your balls.
Speaker 3I like that one.
Speaker 2I really support that the aliens are coming rock out with your balls out.
Speaker 3Yep, yeah yeah.
Do we need to pull a card?
Speaker 4I have one?
Speaker 3Or do you have them in front of you or they're in the living room, but I have some right here.
Okay, hopefully do that for tearot time.
Speaker 4Let's just take a deep breath, take a deep cleansing breath to reset the energy.
Speaker 2So glad to be here in this lifetime, breathing with my health, with my family.
I'm so grateful.
We have so much to be grateful for.
And let's remember that every day.
Speaker 4Lashay mm hmmm, one fell out of the deck.
What is it?
So full?
Five of cups?
Speaker 2Let me look it up, baby, Oh, six of cups?
Speaker 4Wow?
And I wonder I'm going to get my Roman numerals together, right.
Speaker 3It's a it's a it's like a a numerology of the past, like is advantage.
Speaker 4I mean it makes sense, you know.
Want to get confused with the four and the six the V because the.
Speaker 2Four is the V before four and after?
Yeah?
Yeah, okay.
Six of cups.
Tarot card meanings revisiting the past, childhood memories, innocents, joy with the it fell out of the deck, y'all, Oh my goodness.
The six of cups is a card that takes you back to the happy memories from your past, whether as a child, teenager, or young adult.
You may simply be revisiting those memories in your mind.
Or you may travel back to your childhood home or reconnect with your childhood friends.
You could go to a high school reunion or reconnect with an old buddy at chep.
Speaker 4My high school reunions in like two weeks, Oh yeah, my twenty year what the fuck?
Speaker 2Okay one a teenage sweetheart or past lever may turn up again.
These connections bring you a sense of joy and happiness as you reminisce over all the fun times you had together.
Take this occasion to explore whether you still have a lot in common and if you wish to continue the relationship now.
It shows often the Six of Cups often shows an increased level of harmony and cooperation in your relationships.
You're ready to give and receive without expectation.
You're also willing to give each other the benefit of the doubt.
Having moved on from challenging emotions of the Five of Cups, it's time.
It's time to turn over a new leaf and start afresh from a more positive place.
It invites you to touch, get in touch with your inner child, and experience the fun, freedom, and innocence that comes with being a young child again.
You might like to sit down with an adult coloring book, dance like no one is watching, play your favorite childhood games, or spend more time happy around happy children.
When you give yourself permission to be playful, spontaneous, and creative, you connect more with your authentic self and your intuition.
Oh wow, wait, hold on one more thing.
The six of cups can also refer to child children in your life.
It can suggest a pregnancy, perhaps twins, chill a bird.
Speaker 4We don't need to read this part.
Speaker 2Okay, never mind, never mind.
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Speaker 2Okay, well, we've been talking for almost two hours.
That wasn't the plan, but apparently we had a lot to say.
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