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Now I want to talk about well, I'm going to focus on an important development of the DOJ involving civil rights, but I want to first make a comment here about something I just saw on social media.

This was the world's number one women's player, Arena Sablenka, and she was asked in an interview what she thinks about trans women aka biological men playing in women's tennis.

Now, this is.

A very interesting question because I've noticed I might have even commented at Debbie, I haven't actually seen the trans issue surface in tennis.

And this is very telling because you know, the.

Number eighty five ranked person in the world male could probably easily beat the number one, two or three ranked female.

And this is not my opinion.

This has been said by people from John McEnroe to top female players.

The Serena Williams at one point said, oh, yeah, you can't compare the male game in tennis with the female game.

To quote to quote her, she said, these are like two different games, two different sports.

But what I find interesting is that when this question was posed to Sablenka, she hesitated.

She paused.

She was actually being interviewed jointly with Nick Krgos, and she looked over at Nick as if to say, I wonder if I should go there.

And then she goes there and she says, I don't think it's right.

I don't think that a biological man can play in the women's division.

They have too much strength, and just identifying as a woman, even taking hormones, doesn't really do it.

So she stated the correct position.

But the hesitation is telling, isn't it, Because what does it tell you?

It tells you that the woke phenomenon is not completely dead.

If it was completely dead, you'd be like, oh, you are you kidding?

That would be the opening.

But the fact that it was like uh, tells you that she was afraid think of it.

Even the number one player on the women's side is intimidated by the accusation that she's Transpobaic and she pushed through it.

But the silence itself spoke spoke volumes.

Now in the same connection, which is the connection of we're dealing here with issues of rights and civil rights.

I want to talk about my old Dartmouth buddy, Harmeat Dylan Harmat and I didn't go to Dartmouth at the same time.

She went several years later.

But even though I graduated in nineteen eighty three, I stayed on the board of the Dartmouth Review for several years.

That's how I met Harmeat Dylan.

We've been friends over many well, quite a few decades now, and she is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights in the Department of Justice.

And her premise, there has been equality of rights for all.

So nobody gets more rights, nobody gets fewer rights, we all get the same rights.

And this is the color blind principle.

But it's the principle that applies even beyond ethnicity or race.

Now, a bunch of her colleagues quit when she first came in because she established, from now on, it's going to be equality of rights for all.

There's no such thing as like good discrimination, bad discrimination, discrimination against whites is okay.

Discrimination against minorities is discrimination against whites is okay.

Discrimination against minorities is horrible and needs to be prosecuted.

No, her point is that discrimination is discrimination.

And so a bunch of these people quit, and some of them, by the way, are now trying to come back.

But Harmeat's point is now, sorry, if you decided to exit, get off the bus, so to speak.

Well, you're off the bus.

The bus is actually.

Going to go on without you.

And now, through the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, I see a new rule which basically knocks out this idea of disparate impact.

Now this needs to be explained a little bit because in the past, the liberals came up with a very ingenious way to intimidate companies and force them to agree to all these settlements where they pay giant fines, they agree to establish all these preferential and affirmative action policies.

But to get them to do that, you have to make them guilty of discrimination.

How do you do that, Well, the obvious way to do that is to find a white guy and a black guy that applied for a job.

The black guy was better qualified, but the white guy got the job.

But the government realized there are very few such cases.

They can't actually prove discrimination that way, so the obvious way doesn't really work.

So they came up with an obvious way, which is a very deceitful way, and that's called disparate impact.

So let's just say, for example, a company establishes a rule that says, for example, that if you want to be in construction, you have to be.

Able to do ABC and D.

All the government does is they come in and show that when you administer this standard ABC and D, it has a disparate impact on a certain minority group, let's say blacks.

And so when you administer this test or this standard, whites do better than blacks, and it's having a disparate impact on blacks.

Therefore, the company now has the burden of proof in trying to show they have to show why this rule is necessary for the job, and that's sometimes hard to do because, after all, when you establish rules they're general in nature.

You want to hire a firefighter, you say, okay, well, carry up, carry this large hose and run for one hundred yards.

Can you prove that that is a necessary way to be able to fight a fire?

Probably not.

Or you have to be able to.

Do fifty push ups.

Can you prove that fifty push ups are necessary to be a firefighter?

Probably not.

Or you have to have a certain amount of physical strength, you have to be able to lift something.

Now true, you're a firefighter, you have to carry people out of buildings.

But can you prove that carrying two hundred pounds is a necessary burden.

So again, by this disparate impact rule, you keep saying, well, women can't carry two hundred pounds.

So this rule is having a disparate impact on women.

Therefore, the government would use the disparate impact test to bully, to intimidate, to bludgeon these companies into giving up their tests, giving up their standards, just a wrecking ball in the American workplace.

And so this is.

Actually a completely fallacious way to try to prove discrimination because all good standards that measure real ability also have a disparate impact.

You know, consider, for example, an Olympic race.

Everybody starts on the same line, gun goes off, clock goes on.

People who hit the finishing tape first get medals.

Let's say you show wait a minute, this is having a disparate impact on whites.

This is having a disparate impact on Koreans.

This makes absolutely no sense.

Of course, the race has a disparate impact in the sense that some people win and other people lose.

So the whole disparate impact test is bogus.

And yet it's.

Been a way of measuring discrimination for fifty years.

So we've got to give big kudos here to har Meat, big kudos to her colleagues at the Department of Justice.

Why because they have essentially said disparate impact now goes out the window as the DOJ is enforcing civil rights.

If you want to prove discrimination, first of all, you don't get any special treatment if you're white or you're black.

Discrimination is discrimination.

You want to prove it under the civil rights laws, go ahead and do it, but you have to do it in the normal way.

Show, for example, that they were eligible and qualified.

Hispanic applicants who applied should have gotten the job were turned away on account of their race.

If you can't prove that there's no discrimination, same with men and women, you can't just point to a test and go, well, women can't do as well as men on this test.

No, if the test is being applied evenly and the best people are getting the job.

The disparate impact just doesn't enter the picture at all.

It's not going to be considered.

Here's harmeid.

Our rejection of this theory will restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of actual discrimination rather than enforcing race or sex based quotas or assumptions.

Boom, very good stuff.

I mean for me, it's kind of touching because this is stuff that we talked about thirty years ago, you know, when we were in our twenties and in some cases even late teens thinking about these kinds of issues.

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Today, Guys, I'm delighted to welcome to the podcast.

Drew Thomas Allen.

He is a writer, he is a political commentator, he is a publicist, and he is the host of the Drew Allen show and the author of a new book that is now available available on Amazon and elsewhere.

It's called for Christ and Country.

The Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk.

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Drew, Welcome, Thank you for coming on.

I really appreciate it.

Charlie Kirk's assassination a massive cultural event, an event that I think at the beginning led a lot of us to think this is going to draw people into a spiritual revival, This is going to cause people to look inward.

This is going to perhaps contribute to a mood of cultural and political reform in this country.

And yet here we are in what appears to be now a very divided MAGA movement, a lot of acrimony between different sides, a lot of insinuations, and more than insinuations outright allegations that Charlie Kirk was not killed by this trans or transaffiliated assassin, but rather there's some kind of a plot involving I don't know, Egyptians, the French, the US government, maybe staffers.

A turning point USA.

There is an element here in which the Sublime has been now converted into the ridiculous.

What do you is someone writing a book on Charlie Kirk make of this almost disintegration of potential of possibility.

Yeah, well, let's use the word opportunity.

And I'll use the word opportunity first describe opportunists like Canis Owens.

You know, I'll see Elfer in the room.

She's kind of the leader of this gang, it seems because of her you know, size and influence apparently, but you know, she took Charlie's assassination and turned into turned it into a stage for her to perform.

You know, we were trying to figure out how this could happen, and her and others were trying to figure out how they could, you know, stay in the headlines.

And this was an opportunity to further Charlie Kirk's legacy in a way that he never could have even imagined in terms of speed.

I will speak from personal experience to Nash.

His death absolutely broke me down and rebuilt me as a better man.

I'm a Christian, I'm not completely tepid.

I wrote a book ahead of the previous presidential life that was aimed at re electing Donald Trump.

So I'm in this world and I talk.

But Charlie Kirk was unique because he was fearless and he had conviction that most people never even attain.

And Charlie became Charlie Denes.

She you know, people that knew him, you know, I've talked to people who knew him even four years ago.

He was not this effective Charlie that we saw most recently because he had a hunger for knowledge, a hunger for truth.

And so when he'd go and do these debates on hostile campuses, or he'd go over to Oxford and go to hostile environments, you know, he trained like an athlete for these things.

And most people prefer the comfort of an echo chamber.

You know, Charlie Kirk didn't go in with a canvas crowley to bail him out, like you know she did Barack Obama in the debate with Mitt Romney.

And that is what made him so unique.

And he was absolutely exemplified love and the love that we're supposed to profess his Christians, which is love of other people by preaching the truth.

And that was missing from me.

Okay, you know I had a lot of those qualities.

I mean a lot of us have those qualities that Charlie exhibited, that the founding fathers exhibited, that great men and Americans exhibit.

But you know, I lost all my close friends den Esh because I even though I'm conservative.

You know, I worked in Italy for two and a half years.

I was an actor.

At one point, I went to an all male Jesuit college prep school in Dallas.

So I was incubating with these libs and they were always my friends and they knew where I stood on politics.

But you know, you know, I saw in real time in my own life between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, this vilification, this campaign of hatred that the Democrat Party in particular embraced, and you know, they all, you know, chose to excommunicate me from their lives, calling me a Nazi.

And so this continued to happen for the past decade, and ultimately it's this rhetoric of the left, this hatred they've infused the country, and they're sycophantic followers with that created the climate in which it was actually, I think inevitable that Charlie Kirk was murdered.

So the threat we faced, Denesh is a Democrat Party that speaks like Anoir al Alachi on CNN that are propagandists for a different type of jahad and ideology that is not dissimilar from radical Islam.

And we know that it's getting people killed, we know it's producing violence.

And this is what the opportunity was to address when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

It must be addressed.

And so all that momentum, important momentum for the salvation of this country, frankly, which is going to come also from a spiritual revival.

It's not going to come from politics.

And Charlie understood that.

You know, the rug was pulled out.

And we've had people like Candace wasting time acting more like a spurned lover or you know some ex girlfriend that had a psychotic break that's more like a stalker.

You know, she's not searching for the truth.

I mean, these people that the killer is right in front of us.

We know we will and a doctrine had left us.

Of course, that's who would want to kill Charlie Kirk.

We saw it with Donald trump assassination attempt ran Paul's broken ribs by his next door neighbor who is a Democrat, Bernie Sanders supporter who tried to shoot up a congressional baseball field.

I mean, the examples are endless.

A week after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you know, what is the what have the Democrats been saying about ICE, comparing them to Nazis as well?

And then you have a copycat attempt of some guy in Dallas who tries to kill ICE agents.

And I'm just sick of us not holding the media accountable.

That's what should have happened after Charlie Kirk's assassination.

And yet these people like Candice Owen's are sitting there looking anywhere but at the actual person and the reason behind this happening.

And it's it's.

Unforgivable to me.

You know, I just saw a point that was made by friend Jack Pisobek, who's been on my show a number of times.

And Jack goes, listen, you know, if you're claiming that there was some ring that did this and it wasn't, in fact, the guy that the FBI has investigated and is now arrested and charged, why do you think his parents turned him in?

In other words, his parents thought it was him, That's why they brought him in and we're not even looking here at the evidence of the gun, the DNA evidence, the footprint evidence, the video.

It seems to me that there is.

An open question about whether or not he told other people about it, Whether there were people on Discord or elsewhere who maybe knew in advance that something big was coming down the pike.

All of this, I think does remain to be investigated.

But the idea that somehow this was done by the Macarns, or by a bunch of Egyptians who came off a plane, or by the Mossade or by Erica Kirk, I mean, this is downright madness.

Can you give I mean, look, maybe Candace has lost her mind, or maybe she is just as you say, hunting for attention and followers.

How do you explain the fact that they're how do you explain the followers?

I mean, are we just dealing with the phenomenon of like zombies who go along and go oh.

I think she's got a great point.

What do you think is going on here?

A couple things.

I think this climate of everything's a conspiracy theory.

I understand the basis of where it comes from, because we've been dealing with a Democrat Party and certainly the autopen administration of Joe Biden that covered up hid truths from us.

The whole COVID environment I think can't be discounted from this.

We've been lied to so much.

So conspiracy theories are nothing more than an effort by the lay person to understand and get facts about why something happened and the absence of evidence, not just in the absence of evidence, but in the absence of people who were committed to actually telling people the truth, who are trying to actively cover something up.

So therefore, you know, a lot of conspiracy theories have come true, right, I mean with COVID with a lab leak theory.

Gee, I don't know, we're funding you know, COVID viruses, coronaviruses in a Wuhan lab, this being you know that, you know whatever, the whole story is circumventing and going over here with Fauci and they're they're giving them the money and then they tell us, oh, no, it was from bat soup down the street, Like, oh, you don't think COVID originated in the lab where they were doing coronavirus research on bats.

So, I mean, this is the reason that we're here, and people are some people's brains are broken because of it, till everything now is a conspiracy theory.

But there's something else that's very much like a left wing ideology that's driving this, and a candas Owns and other people you know likes.

Let's just pick one example.

Brock Hussein Obama, our first Muslim president.

Right, he was the Billy Graham of Islam, and every time you had, you know, so he operated from an assumption that, you know, Islam was a peaceful religion, right, and therefore, any any jihadist attack, any any any you know, act of terrorism and murder carried out in the name of radical Islam, well it couldn't have anything to do with the ideology, because Islam is a wonderful religion and a peaceful religion.

And so here we have these conspiracy theoris operating from an assumption that it could not have been the kid who actually climbed up on the roof with a rifle and put a bullet in Charlie Kirk's neck in front of people at Utah Valley University.

And so therefore they are never It's like if if you love pit bulls, and I know this will make some you know pitbull dog you know, fanatics and fans upset.

But you know, pit bulls are responsible for the majority of violence, you know by dogs.

So if your assumption is like, well, no, all pit bulls are peaceful, then you're gonna get really defensive every time there's a pit bull attack that ends in the death of some kid.

So this is the problem.

So they're excluding, they're not gonna they're not gonna believe any of the evidence that is presented in They have like built up a barricading their minds for any evidence that would confirm Ockham's razor the most obvious, you know, truth that's presented, and so they have to look all these other places because they refuse to acknowledge.

I guess in a weird way that you know, left wing indoctrination could have led to this, particularly in the militant, most dangerous social experiment of the left, which is the transgenderism.

You know, Drew.

What I find strange about it is this, Let's say that the shooter was some kind of a maga guy, right, and let's say, for whatever reason, that this was a guy who had a beef with Charlie Cook.

I can then understand that you'd have right wingers who were like very reluctant to believe it, and so they want to cook up some other theory and know it was you know it was a deep state operation.

But when you have a guy, the shooter, who is on the left, he's dating a trans individual, You've got all these texts flying back and forth, You've got the opportunity to bust what could be a violent trans ring.

And by the way, I think you and I know that there are, regardless of this incident, pockets of these kinds of people.

They go to military training, they plan for violent actions.

So this is a kind of almost a gifted opportunity to the Trump administration to bust all this open.

Is there an antifa connection?

Is this tran tifa some people like to call it.

And what you're saying is and this is what puzzles me.

Why would somebody on the right want to take our collective eye off the ball and direct us down these idiot rabbit holes where never is there a single new fact ever put forward.

There's never any verifiable evidence.

There's not even a good rival theory to explain who a what, oh why would they do this?

There's just insinuation on top of insinuation.

I mean, this looks to me to be not only a performative and stupid and opportunistic, but highly destructive to an opportunity that's right before us to get something good accomplished here.

Yeah, I mean, Canissons is no better than Jake Tapper, who went on the air recently and said that the person the FBI arrested in connection with the January sixth pipe bombing incident that he was white.

She's no better than these leftists in Canisons is far worse.

What she's doing and has done for three months is far worse than anything Jimmy Kimmel even did when he went on his show in the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and told his audience and you know, all six people that watch whatever at the time, but you know, and he told his audience that it was a MAGA supporter that did it.

You know, at least in that circumstance, there was some pushback, right, I mean, you know it was controversial because you know, even the FCC chair Brendan Carr, you know, was he didn't take any action.

He didn't he didn't do anything, but he talked about how inappropriate it was.

Yeah, we didn't even get that with you know, the cant of so and stuff, and it's so odd.

I mean, I I don't know.

I mean, I don't believe that online is real.

Social media is not necessarily you know, the real world either.

But people have seemed to display a fear of calling her out and and you know this isn't you know, and this is this is a good lesson too in I mean, you to treat can of so Owans like she's a leftist, and frankly, I think she is a left leftist at this point.

I mean she acts like one the way she you know, you're guilty until proven innocent.

You know, she just makes an accusation and then it's up to you to prove your innocence.

The way she plays victim every time, And she's so vicious going after a widow, pretending you know that she would care about Charlie Kirk's death more than Erica Kirk, for example.

But I just I'm at a loss for words.

Why why someone would would behave this way?

I mean, you're handing the left of victory essentially.

I mean, here's what I just saw one of her, one of her top supporters or one of her big followers.

He's like, I grieved more over my last paper cut than seemingly Erica grieved over Charlie's death.

I mean, this is a this is the kind of thing that you should not say and uh, and yet there's quite a lot of it.

And then if you even raise a question and go why would you.

Say something so abominable?

You get a hornet's nest of like Canda Sites, you know, blasting you, uh and accusing you of not wanting to get in the truth.

Leave Candace alone.

She's a fearless investigator.

I mean, what has this woman ever investigated?

What?

What new fact has she brought into the world?

Yeah, I mean nothing.

I mean she'd be nowhere if it weren't for I guess Kanye West retweeting something of hers long ago.

And then Charlie Kirk himself picking her up out of the river like Moses, and you know, lifting her up and giving her opportunity.

That's the thing.

Charlie Kirk built people up.

Cannus Owens is determined to just tear the entire organization down.

And one of the things I find just incredible.

D Nash about these attacks on Erica Kirk is you know a lot of these people attacking Erica Kirk.

I mean many are let's just say traditional feminists, not even Feminazis that take it so far.

But you know they talk about how women should be strong, right, women should be able to do these these jobs that men do or whatever else.

And here you have an example of Erica Kirk who is bucking up.

She's going out there trying to continue her husband's legacy.

She's showing absolute strength, strength that I would not possess in such an emotional catastrophe and tragic situation.

And you've got these people attacking her for being a strong woman.

It's mind blowing to me.

And it's like she can't win.

And I mean this is part of the cultural decay that obviously the left as large as a response before, and it ties into what led it to Kirk's assassination too.

It's just the way we behave the lack of civil you know, appropriate civil discourse anymore.

You can't even have respect for someone who lost her her husband.

I mean, Denesh, you know what, you know what the genesis was for this book?

For me, it was so I cried for a week, and I don't cry.

I cried for a week after Charlie Kirk died, and I was trying to figure out, you know, why the heck is this having such an impact on me?

And it was because it was so close to home.

I was picking up.

So I'm married, I've got two daughters.

One is, you know, approaching three, the other one's almost one years old.

Charlie had two kids, a three year old and a one year old.

In his case, he had a daughter and a son.

And I was picking up my you know, two and a half year old daughter from preschool, and my wife had told me that that morning, Hey, you cause I don't usually pick her up from school.

My wife said, you know, yesterday when I picked up Whyona is my daughter's oldest daughter's name?

You know, she was asking for dad, Dad, Dad, Dad in the car, dadad in the car and I wasn't And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go with you and we're gonna pick her up today.

I want to see that smile on her face when I show up.

And I pulled into the parking lot with my wife ten minutes you know, before you know, noon or something.

I live in California, and that's when she gets picked up and I my phone lit up with a notification that Charlie Kirk had been shot.

And my wife went to get our uh, our daughter, and I saw the video, you know, and anybody who saw that video new and like, there's no way, Oh yeah, there's just no way you can survive it.

Yeah.

And so my daughter comes running to the car just screaming so joyfully, you know, dad, that I was there, and it was this this moment where what I had right there that was so pure and perfect was ripped away in that same moment from Charlie's kids and Charlie's family.

And this was a human being, a Christian, a father, a doting husband, and just snuffed out like that.

And I wanted to know why, and I wanted it to never happen again.

And that's when I started to write the book.

And then I got to deal with Candice Owns and other people out there.

They don't seem to have any ounce of humanity and then whatsoever to look at that issue and what happened and what happened to Kirk family, and instead they want to go down this rabbit hole of conspiracies and for her to hijack this like it hurt her more than it hurt anybody else, and this is the justification for her going down and doing this and undermining his entire legacy.

Despicable.

Yeah, I have to agree, guys.

I've been talking to Drew Thomas Allen, author and commentator.

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She's a certified nutrition expert and health and wellness advocate, and we're going to talk about health and how you can look out for yours.

Ellie, welcome, Thank you for thank you for joining me.

There's this really bizarre story where in the Midwestern school they were vaccinating kids without parental consent and RFK goes no more of this.

We need some measures to prevent it.

From happening again, what is your assessment of this incident?

And I mean, schools shouldn't be able to do this kind of stuff without parental consent, should they.

The word wrong is not even strong enough.

Really, it's despicable, and as a parent myself, if that was the case, I would be livid.

I mean, we send our kids to school for education, socialization, not for vaccination.

And you know, parents, they're the primary caregivers and they're the ones who need to make they're the best position to evaluate what aligns with their child's medical needs, not the schools.

And I think what we have to remember is that vaccination is a medical intervention and a lot of people believe such decisions should require consent rather than coercion.

And we have seen so much damage that these vaccines can do.

And I hope that this child, and I don't know anything about him or her, but I hope this child hasn't had any adverse effects now or won't have any in the future.

But man, that is really scary.

I mean, I think what you're saying is that I mean at the school will probably say, hey, well, you know, it's this is for the benefit of the kid.

This is for the benefit of the other kids.

Vaccines are a good thing to take.

I think what you're saying is that for all vaccines there are risks, and the real question is shouldn't the parents be the one to make the decision about whether to undertake those risks?

And this is not an authority that is some been given over to the school, right, So can you outline what a couple of those risks are?

Yeah?

Sure, yeah.

I mean, no one should ever stick a needle in your child's arm without asking your permission.

But even if they have it, it's just not what you do at a school.

And the damage is you know, the evidence shows there's been so many things that have gone wrong with people, and one of the most commonly discussed are the cardiac events that occur shortly after the actual vaccination.

It's not a secret that there had been people dropping dead of a heart attack or having strokes shortly after receiving the COVID vaccine.

And you know, I really want to focus on another type of damage, which is really the damage done to our gut microbiomes.

And we are learning more and more about the gut microbiome and how it affects all of the areas of the body.

And you know, the microbiome.

It's a vast community of tiny living things that live on and inside your body, your skin, on your gut.

It is crucial for your health, right for successful health.

And what happens is when the microbiome is disrupted the balance the good versus the bad microbes, it just has a higher incidence of DNA damage, oxidative stress, cellular mutation, and it significantly increases your risk of cancer.

You said cancer.

In other words, you're talking about the fact that if your gut is a sort of part in my colloquial like out of whack, you're saying that it can have all kinds of bad effects, including potentially exposing you to the risk of cancer.

Is there some medical basis for that?

Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you asked.

And actually I was reading a recent study that measured the potential of lactic acid bacteria that's found in to prevent cancer.

And I'm really excited about the study.

Kimchi and I've been on here talking about it in the past.

It's just such an amazing superfood and you know, just to simplify what the study says, it's really you know, the probiotics and kimchi, especially W.

Siberia and L.

Plantarum.

What they do is they help block cancer promoting enzymes, They fight harmful bacteria, support gut health, boost your immune system, reduces inflammation, lowers cholesterol, and all those things put together may prevent cancer.

So it's really important.

And you know I've said up before, kimchi contains over nine hundred strains of beneficial bacteria, more than any other fermented food.

That's why we call it the King of fermented foods.

And it's also the best way to support your gut microbio and therefore your immune system, because we know that seventy percent of your immune system is housed in your gut.

And not only that, but you know it's been shown to improve brain health, reduce risk of obesity, improve cardiovascular health, which you know is another study that just came out as well.

I mean, you, Elie, are a representative with with Bright Core Nutrition, and I think it's what's kind of cool about this is that you know, neither of us are Korean, so we probably don't eat the Korean diet every day, and even if there's a Korean restaurant near our houses, we're probably not going to be go, you know, going there five days a week or seven days a week to eat.

And what right Core has done is sort of make life simple for everybody by taking this kind of Korean super food, namely kimchi, and basically packaging it in a capsule right where you can easily just pop it in, you're done.

You get all the benefits of it.

Talk a little bit about how right Core makes kim you available to people for easy consumption.

Well, like you said, you know, we don't live in Korea, and you know, we all know about the glass skin and the Koreans live six years longer than Americans.

It's because kimchi is so powerful.

I mean, it's reducing blood glucose, triglycerides, blood pressure, obesity, the list goes on and on and so at Brightcore, what we wanted to do is, you know, because of the importance of daily consumption, create a convenient capsule with no hassle, no mess, no odor.

Because not everyone loves kimchi.

I love it, but you know it's it's it's hard.

People just don't.

It's just not something it's not a staple in our diet that we eat every day, and so we've created this capsule.

It's one hundred percent made in the USA, it's non GMO, it's all natural, and it's virtually sodium free because if you eat it out of the jar, there is a lot of sodium, which, as we know, leads to other health problems.

But the success stories is they are so amazing when it comes to kimchi one.

And you know, when we talk to our customers and I talk to my clients, it's improved digestion and regularity, it's increased energy, less fog, right brain fob, the tabolism, the stronger and thicker hair and skin less wrinkles.

You know, I've said it before.

I'm going to be fifty next year, and I have to tell you, I mean, this stuff really really works.

It It strengthens your immune system.

So everyone's just feeling and looking better.

They're not getting as sick as they used to, and it's just pretty amazing to hear them.

Ellie.

As we close out, let's talk about some good deals from my viewers and listeners.

What is right Core offering them so that well, I mean, the kimchi speaks for itself, but just to motivate them to do it right now, kind.

Of a spur to action.

What can you offer them?

Sure, Well, you can get twenty five percent off with your order of Kimchi one today using code Dinesh, So you'd go to my brightcore dot com slash Denesh.

And you can also call, which I recommend, and that number is eight eight eight nine two seven five nine eight zero.

And the reason we want you to call.

You get fifty percent off your order, not just twenty five percent plus free shipping.

And we'd like to talk to our customers and that's how we really understand the product works so well.

We want to hear the success stories and we want to take the health journey with them, and we want to make sure the product is right for our customers.

So I would definitely recommend calling again.

You just get that personalized health value again up to fifty percent off your order plus free shipping.

And if you're the first hundred callers, you get a bottle of Vitamin D three plus K two.

So that number again is eight eight eight nine two seven five nine eight zero And we can't wait to talk to you.

And Ellie Hurst, thank you very much for joining me.

Thanks for having me.

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I plan to talk today about the mind and the brain.

We are in the chapter on neuroscience in my book Life After Death the evidence, and we are going to try to answer, to refute, to challenge the materialist notion, the notion of reductive materialism, that the mind can be reduced to the brain.

Here is a saying from a Dutch physiologist a long time ago.

The brain secretes thoughts as the kidney secretes urine.

Let's he's saying, He's basically saying, is.

That the mind and the brain by and large are material productions and function no differently than other material objects in the body.

Now we know that the mind and the brain are connected in certain ways.

You can monitor for example, through pet scans, through MRI you can see brain activity in a real time.

And this brain activity is in fact correlated with mental functions.

There are parts of the there's the language part of the brain.

There is the hippocampus, which deals with memory, is the amygdala, which deals with emotions.

So it is in fact the case that certain functions of the brain can be identified and linked with the mind.

Not only that, but in recent decades there's been some amazing research on phantom limbs.

So phantom limbs are cases where your limb, your arm, your leg is amputated, but you experience pain in the phantom limb.

Wow, how can you experience pain in something that is not even there.

The truth of it is that the mind intuits the presence of the limb, even though the limb has in a sense gone away, and the phantom limb, the missing limb, can never the less generate experiences.

Now, the fact that we can experience pain and phantom limbs seems to convey to scientists that again, the mind is simply in this case generating a sort of illusion.

In other words, that the brain produces.

The mind in the same way that let's say, your stomach produces digestion.

Now, this notion again that brains and minds are connected.

Although I'm giving you some kind of cutting edge examples of it.

This is really old.

There's nothing really new here.

Going back to the first century BC, the Greek philosopher Lucretius says, hey, when we get older, our body ages our mind, our brain, if you will.

The physical brain gets weaker and so does the mind.

So the two go together.

The brain and the mind are both weakening, you could say, simultaneously.

Memory starts dissolving the same way that the physical.

Brain is deteriorating.

Everybody knows that disease and injury can impair mental functioning.

The physician Hippocrates recognize that when your brain deteriorates, you can lose your sanity.

So sanity, of course, is the function of the mind.

Someone who's insane has lost their mind, and the physical debilitation of the brain is related to that.

Galen discovered centuries ago that when you make certain types of lesions or cuts in the brains of animals, it produces things like blindness, paralysis, and a reduced sense of consciousness.

And we also know that physical things affect the mind in other ways.

You eat a really big meal and then your mind is a bit drowsy.

You begin to you can't concentrate as well.

You drink about to glasses of wine and you don't lose your mind, but your mind becomes a lot less clear.

So we can safely assume that, you know, if you take out a man's brain, he's not going to be able to think.

I grant that, but I still think that the relationship between the mind and the brain is not clearly established, even after all these centuries of scientific What is the relationship between the mind and the brain.

Even though mind states are dependent on brain states, it doesn't.

Follow that the two are the same.

Or even that one causes the other.

Let me give you a couple of examples of what I mean.

If you.

Want to listen to Mozart, you might need like the app on your phone, right, so the Apple Music plays Mozart for you, And so without the phone you don't get the motes you.

Need the phone.

But would anybody claim that somehow the phone is the same as the music, or the phone is causing the music.

No, you can get the music many other ways.

The music is actually separate from the phone.

The phone is merely the sort of vehicle the pipe to generate the sound.

Of course, if you break the phone, the music won't come out of it.

But on the other hand, you can go to an opera and hear the same music without the phone.

So think of a computer that has software and hardware.

Of course, the software is dependent on the hardware.

Smash the computer and you're not the software in it is not going to work.

Set the computer on fire and you're not going to be able to use it.

The software becomes dysfunctional.

But who would claim that the hardware quote causes the software.

It doesn't.

The hardware and the softa where actually two different things.

That software it can be deployed other than in a computer.

It can be deployed, for example, in a phone on a tablet, and so again, the hardware is merely the kind of physical frame that contains the software.

So the point I'm getting at is that there is a possibility that our thoughts and our mind is are merely located in the brain.

The brain is like the receiver of the mind, but it's not the same as as the mind.

Now, this is a really tough issue for modern neuroscience, and there have been two ways of trying to associate the mind with the brain, and I'm going to argue that both of them fall short.

I will just mention the two ways and then discuss the first one the second one I'm going to leave for Monday.

So the first one is that the mind and the brain are the same.

The mind is the brain, and therefore a mental state let's say, being really sad or having a particular idea, is nothing more than the brain state that is connected to that mental state.

So, for example, let's just say I'm doing an equation.

The neurons in my brain are like in a certain configuration, They're mapped out in a certain way.

That way that configuration is in fact the thought that I'm having with regard to the equation.

There's no difference between the two.

The one is the same as the other.

This is a little bit of a hard idea to grasp, but think about it sort of this way.

Light is not caused by electromagnetic waves.

Light actually is an electro magnetic wave.

The morning star and the evening star appear to be different, but as it turns out, in fact, for many centuries they were thought to be different, but now we know they are different names for the same star.

So the morning star is Venus, the evening star is Venus, and similarly, the mind is the brain.

The brain is the mind.

There is no difference between the two.

Now, as we'll see when I pick all this up.

This is in fact, this doesn't really work, but this is what a lot of neuroscientists are forced to believe because they don't know how to otherwise understand the relationship between the mind and the brain.

The second way, the second theory to account for this relationship is called functionalism, and functionalism basically says that you can understand a thing by looking not at what it is, but at how it functions.

So like, what's a mousetrap.

Well, a mousetrap doesn't have to be a box, it doesn't necessarily have to have one of those snapshot things, it doesn't necessarily have to have a window.

A mousetrap is just pretty much whatever catches mice.

That's called a mousetrap.

We know a mousetrap by its function.

So by this theory, the mind is kind of what it makes you do.

So, for example, if you are in a particular state of mind, you can understand that not by the abstraction what is that state of mind, but what does it actually make you act.

Let's say, for example, that you are depressed.

The question is what do you do?

Do you sit quiet in a room and look at the ceiling, do you take pills?

You go jump off a cliff?

Well, those actions you can see what's going on here.

By and large, you have a scientific community.

There's fun around by trying to take a mental state which cannot be explained and reduce it to something physical.

Reduce it either to the physical neurons in your brain, or reduce it to the actions that makes you do Like, how do I know that someone, let's.

Just say, is in love?

Well, I don't know.

But what I do is I say things like, oh, well, did that guy go out and say I love you?

Did that guy go out and buy a ring?

Did that guy.

Dance up and down and seem really happy with the world.

Well, then I know that that person is in love because they've done the actions the functions that come out of that.

So these are two I'm going to argue really clumsy ways that modern neuroscience tries to take something immaterial and reduce it to the material.

And what I'll do next time, this will be Monday, is go through these two theories.

Number one, the theory of identity the mind is the brain, and the second one, which is that the mind is what it causes you to do, the functional theory, and I'm going to show why neither of them really work.

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