Adam talks with British-Guyanese hip hop musician Loyle Carner about Mums, Dads, being a parent, kids' music, bear attacks, managing ADHD, unwelcome thoughts and the value (vs the potential danger) of hope.

Conversation recorded face-to-face in London on 12th May, 2025

Thanks to Séamus Murphy-Mitchell for production support and additional conversation editing.

Podcast illustration by Helen Green 

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