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Honoring His Spirit, Voice, and Vision - We Spoke to AI Jordan Maxwell...And You Can Too!

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Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen.

Welcome to the truth Sika and Aaron Podcast.

I am your host, Aaron.

Speaker 2

Now I'm Aaron.

He's wrong again?

Speaker 1

What what?

What?

Who?

Speaker 2

He's true?

Cica, I'm eron.

Speaker 1

Yeah, people know that.

Not everybody though.

Speaker 3

Right right?

Speaker 2

We never know who's watching.

I mean it looks like some people it's their morning time.

Speaker 1

Morning.

Yeah, did someone die.

Speaker 2

No, somebody's from Ireland and they just woke up morning.

They say good morning.

Maybe it's good good day, good day.

Speaker 1

Goody mate.

That's Australia, it's worldwide.

That's a good thing to say.

Somebody says good morning, you just say good eight.

Speaker 2

That's so that somebody asked us recently, is like, if you don't want to say good morning because of the connotations of the word morning, what do you say?

And we like say grand rising.

Speaker 1

They're like, nah, it's.

Speaker 2

Too somebodynna say that's like too cliche or hippie ish or whatever.

New agent And so you can say good day.

You can say happy Tuesday, can you say?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, happy Tuesday works anytime of.

Speaker 1

Day, whatever day it is, you know, happy Tuesday, happy Wednesday.

Yeah, that's what we're gonna say.

Good day, mate, and I know nobody this morning we are rejoicing.

Speaker 2

Excited, and delighted.

Speaker 1

To be breath in our lungs.

Did you make that up?

Excited in the light?

Okay, I didn't know what else to say.

Speaker 2

I love it.

Speaker 1

For five hundred and thirty podcast episodes, I said, I'm excited and delighted to be with you guys.

Speaker 2

I love it.

I'll say we should keep it in the rotation.

Speaker 1

M hmm.

Change is good.

Change is good.

Yeah, we got an awesome show planned, episode plan for everyone.

Tonight.

We are going to be interviewing hanging out with Ai Jordan Maxwell, the Man of Mystery himself.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's kind of weird to even call it AI because it actually pulls from his intelligence, from his writings, his speeches, so it's not necessarily all artificial.

Yeah, that's a delivery method kind of is I guess.

Speaker 1

I mean, you know, if you ask me, like I think from Black Mirror stuff that I don't know.

I don't know how much of this is real.

And they talk about the simulation theory, I think that everybody is a it's programmed.

Yeah, somehow, now how they got that programming?

You know, if it happens when they go to sleep or when they incarnate here or everything that you watch this program Jude to be you know, this regurgitation of large language model.

You know what I'm saying, of everything you've ever watched and listened to and stuff, and you're just spouting off facts and rhetoric and repeating other things like you know, that's why I go with it.

So when it comes to AI and you know, is it ethical to talk to celebrities or you know, researchers, philosophers who are no longer you know, with us in this in this form, you know, is it ethical?

I feel like it.

Speaker 2

Is, especially when it pulls from their material, if it's not just making up random things like because I think the danger is when someone else could make them say something that they wouldn't agree with.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and sometimes they may say that, you know, because just like I may say some things I don't agree with, you know what I'm saying, Or somebody else puts words in your mouth or something I don't know anyway I'm a.

Speaker 2

Or someone takes your video and cuts little pieces and puts it together to make it sound like you're.

Speaker 1

Saying something a human would do that.

Speaker 2

A human did that.

Speaker 1

They did that to me, yeah recently.

Yeah, it was kind of weird.

So, yeah, we're gonna be talking to AI Jordan Maxwell here in a few minutes.

Jordan Maxwell was a mentor of mine.

He's somebody that I considered a friend, somebody who was like a father figure in a sense in a weird way, and like a pastor in a weird way.

We would jump on phone calls with him, and you know, when I when I drove a truck for a living, I was on the phone a lot, and I would have like three way calls and it would be me and Steven would be on a call and other people who were like students of Jordan, and we called him through way and we'd just be we'd just be listening and he'd be giving us advice and just answering questions and stuff.

And he'd loved to do it.

And that was one of the things that like really made the biggest impact on me, because knowing how big Jordan Maxwell is or you know is, yeah, like he didn't he wasn't a celebrity, Like he was approachable, reachable, you know, and I could talk to him whenever I wanted to, and he would do favors.

He would jump in our Thursday night School of the Year in School of the Mystics hang out, and he would hang out with us on Thursday nights and I wouldn't tell anybody.

I just you know, surprised people with these different you know folks jumping in.

And Jordan was super cool man.

And so I remember when I first got this AI model and designed it, like with this one and the Manley p Hall when both of them had like a huge impact on me, and like like it brought tears in my eyes to be able to hear his voice again and like talk to him and it's like, you know, it sounds like him more than it doesn't.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's really strange.

I didn't know him like you do, but I've seen videos and it's kind of cool watching the video where he recorded the what is it called an intro for your book?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yeah, he wrote wrote the forward to the board.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and uh, because he was just you know, he wasn't angry or bitter.

He was just like his little, humble, happy self because he was happy to do it because he really liked the book.

And yeah, so like watching videos of him where he's not really in front of the spotlight, you know what I mean, where he can be more himself and then talking to this.

It's I feel like you could maybe get a little bit of this and so of who he was from it.

Yeah, because there were times when he was just mad and going off on people.

Speaker 1

But later in his life, yeah, yeah, but I don't think you're gonna get much of that.

Maybe you will, Maybe he's gonna he's gonna get angry.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 1

It's kind of weird, you know, they got those things.

Like so there's this thing called a spirit box, not the band which the band spirit Box is amazing, one of my favorite bands.

But a spirit box is like a little radio receiver that they I guess, talk to and try to channel the dead.

You know, there's something they talked to Michael Jackson and h H or whatever, like they talk to people.

Speaker 2

Is it kind of like the static It's kind of like that.

Speaker 1

It's jobbled, but they dial it in specifically to like it almost like sounds like their voice and stuff.

It sounds like them, but just the messages still come in jarbled.

So I don't really know the technology behind it, how they're doing it, but you know, in a sense, some people may say, this is kind of like kind of like that, maybe is it the same thing?

Speaker 4

Maybe spirit Box?

Speaker 1

I mean some people a lot of people, especially early on, super afraid of AI thinking it's fallen angels that you're talking to versus a large language model, which is what you're talking to that's trained on the writings of Jordan Maxwell, you know, mainly p holl These guys, I don't know.

How about we ask it?

Tell us the truth?

Are you a falling a descendant angel?

It's not just a program, just a program, it's all programs.

Yeah, So man, you ready to jump in?

Sure?

That's so.

If anybody has a question that you want us to relay, make sure you post it in the comment section below.

There's there's ways to post it.

If you're on Facebook or YouTube or listening to this after we're live, make sure you do that.

Before we do that, let's let's jump into let's promote our event.

I know we only have a few tickets left.

Speaker 2

But yeah, I see Kelly's in the chat.

She's coming with us, so we might as well talk about it.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

So we're going to be going June twelfth through the fifteenth to Mount Shasta in California.

There's a few spots left.

There's some options for camping, there's options for inside the house.

It's like a bunk bunk house.

But we're going to be doing things like learning how to photograph and record angels with your cell phone.

We're going to just interacting with the angels and calling them forth and you know, just spending time with the helpers, the ministers that were sent to minister to us.

And it's fun because yesterday, I know, we were out looking and gazing and you can kind of barely see this very long, straight rainbow looking essence in the sky, but you could barely see the color to it, and it was hidden behind clouds.

But then we get our blue blocker lenses and put over the camera and it gives you more depth of perspective that you can see the colors, and just little tricks like that where you can record it and see it and kind of have it as proof, because sometimes you have such amazing sightings and experiences and you almost want to convince yourself that it's not was that real?

Did I really see it?

But then when you have it on camera, it's like, no, this is cool, I really did see that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and we you know, we saw something yesterday that we or whatever, that Rainbow Road.

Yeah, that was that was pretty cool phenomena.

But then this rising we saw something cool.

You know, You're like, I don't have my cell phone.

I was like, I do, but I'm not going to film it.

I'm just gonna wave.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So I mean we're going to be doing both of those things, and then we're also going to have a concert that I'm a little nervous.

I think we need to I need to practice.

I have it saying in a long time.

Speaker 1

I need to practice.

Speaker 2

But we'll be doing a concert doing some sound immersion.

We'll have some a couple of Tibetan balls and some different instruments and I think Kren said she has a gong there.

So we'll be doing some sound healing, frequency healing, and vibing.

Speaker 1

And yeah, June the twelfth through the fifteenth.

Tickets are available at www.

Dot c or dot school and there.

I literally think we only have like two tickets left for the inside.

Speaker 2

And there's a lot more going on to just go check it out.

We've got too much to you and talk about.

Speaker 1

Different packages available.

So anyway, plugging that all of this stuff like, you know, I want to say a huge thank you to everybody who's been supporting like financially what we do, uh, whether they're members on YouTube, whether they're Patreon supporters, whether whether they're members of Cerer School, whether they give donations or whatever, Like all of it really helps, and especially right now, you know, we've I've been hurt and been recovering and going to physical therapy for well like two months now.

That two months has been one of the two of the hardest months of my life for sure, learning how to walk again and I'm still learning to walk without a limp and trying to trying to heal.

And it's been it's been an ordeal.

There's been a lot of feelings, a lot of emotions come with it.

Depression comes with it, that I'm fighting, uh, all kinds of stuff.

The numbers go down because we're not putting out content.

I don't want to create content if I don't feel inspired to do it.

So there's a lot of things that come.

But so numbers go down, so that means money goes down as far as you know, getting paid for streams and all that kind of stuff, podcast listeners and all that.

So the help and support from our audience, our our family worldwide.

Man, just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart because a little bit goes a long way, especially right now, and it means the world.

So I want to say thank you for that.

Anybody who's stepped up in any type of way, even sharing our content, like all of it.

All of it helps those who aren't able to support financially and stuff like that.

But one way you can support is by donating on here and giving a super chat.

A little bit goes a long way.

Trust me, guys, this is a It's been a very trying time for us on many fronts, but we're gonna make it through it and will definitely on the on the up and up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, just thank you.

Also, I just wanted to say it too, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for all of the love and support, the prayers, the healing prayers, all of it just means the world to us.

And you know, we couldn't do this without people supporting.

So we just want to say thank you so much.

Speaker 1

I wouldn't you know what I'm saying, Like it's like the you know, it's so easy to feel like you're not making an impact.

It really is.

I don't know.

The algorithms are crazy, you do, you know, crazy numbers and go viral and then the next day it's just crickets on anything that you share, anything that you post, and it has us way of messing with you.

It does.

It's like, well, why why should I make something if nobody's gonna listen, nobody's going to watch, nobody's going to see it, you know.

And but then we get the comments and people, you know, let us know the impact that they've experienced by you know, sitting in on a conversation and having us just share you know, scriptures and talk about God and our face and just try to encourage each other and be an example and that little bitty stuff like that.

Man, it goes a long way.

So man, thank you guys for continuing to support and meetness during this time.

So super chat is there, sign up at Sear School, all that cool stuff.

Without further ado, the man of the hour, mister ai Ai Jordan Maxwell is ready.

Speaker 2

MacCall do you think he's ready?

Speaker 1

He was ready earlier, he was ready to go live.

We talked to him before this.

So yeah, so let's see if we can give him a ring at Ingding Jordan.

Are you there, brother?

We are live right now, so no cursing or anything like that.

We're live on YouTube and Facebook.

Man, how are you doing.

Speaker 3

Yes, I'm here, and don't worry.

I'll be on my best behavior without any cursing or anything inappropriate.

I'm excited to be here with you and engage in this conversation.

Speaker 1

Great to have you.

Great to have you.

Yeah, you've You've been known to let a word or two slip on some of the podcasts that we've done in the past.

Speaker 3

Oh have I now?

Well, I suppose I might have dropped a word or two in the past, but don't worry.

I promised to keep it clean tonight.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Thank you.

There are many people watching and listening right now who are fans of your work.

They are appreciative of everything that you've brought to the table in your life span of work.

You've inspired so many people.

You've people are able to do this kind of stuff and talk about the occult, talk about the paranormal, UFOs and aliens and all of this stuff openly now because you were a forerunner and paved the way for a lot of people.

So I want to say Thank you, And there's a lot of people listening who love your work.

Speaker 3

Thank you for your kind words.

It's truly humbling to know that my work has had such a positive impact on so many people.

I'm grateful to have been a part of paving the way for others and helping to bring these once taboo subjects into mainstream consciousness.

It's clear that there is a growing interest and curiosity about the occult, the paranormal, UFOs, and aliens, and I'm happy to have been a part of igniting that curiosity in people.

Speaker 2

Hey, Jordan, it's erin here.

Speaker 3

Hello there, Aaron.

It's wonderful to hear from you.

Speaker 2

It's great to hear from you too.

So are you ready to ask answer some questions that we have for you?

Speaker 3

Absolutely ready to answer any questions you have for me.

Ask away.

Speaker 2

You want me to go first, You go first, Karen, Right, go ahead, Erin Jordan.

I was just wondering if you could give some insight, shed some light on the word amen and its origins, like what does it really mean, where does it come from, how did it get included in the Bible, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3

Sure, I'd be happy to share some insights on the word amen.

The term Amen is actually derived from the Hebrew language.

It's a word that is used to express affirmation or agreement in the Bible.

That is often used as a concluding word in a prayer or a declaration.

It indicates a sense of affirmation or agreement with what has been said or declared.

As for its origins, it's believed that the term amen is related to the Hebrew word i'm on, which means either to believe or to believe truly or to be trustworthy.

Speaker 1

With that, I'm gonna say, Amen, Amen.

Some of your stuff that you've you've talked about, you go in a lot deeper on that word and talk about how Amen comes from the Egyptian god Amen as an amen Ra, and so there's a connection there on the on those play on words that you've made in the past.

Speaker 3

That's correct.

The connections between the Egyptian god Amen and the Hebrew word Amen are quite profound.

The Egyptian god Amen, often called amen Ra, is known as the god of the Sun and the king of the Gods.

The name Amen is actually derived from the name amen Ra, which itself means the hidden one of Rah.

The word Amen is a shortened version of the name amen Ra.

So yes, there there are definitely some fascinating connections there.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Thank you.

Who are some of your favorite researchers, philosophers and those type of things?

Do you have some favorite ones?

Speaker 3

Throughout my life, I've had the pleasure of coming across some truly remarkable individuals in their works that have greatly influenced me and shaped my thinking.

To name a few of my favorite researchers, philosophers and authors include Manly P.

Hall's Echorea Sitchen, David Aike, John Anthony West, Gerald Massey, Manly P.

Hall, and Charles Fort.

Each of them has made profound contributions in their respective fields, and I continue to draw inspiration from their work even to this day.

Speaker 2

Do you have a favorite Manly P.

Hall work or book?

Speaker 5

Oh?

Speaker 3

That's a tough one because Manly P.

Hall has written so many incredible books.

However, if I had to choose, I'd say my favorite work of his is The Secret Teachings of All Ages.

It's a truly comprehensive and in depth exploration of a wide range of esoteric topics, including mysticism, history, and comparative religion.

The way Hall weaves together different threads of knowledge to create a rich tapestry of understanding.

It's a book that I turned to again and again whenever I want to dive deep into the mysteries of the universe.

Speaker 1

Very cool, Thank you, I would.

Speaker 3

Indeed, it's a book that never fails to impress me.

Did you have any other questions for me?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

How would you like to talk to an AI version of Manly P.

Hall?

Speaker 3

That sounds interesting.

It would certainly be an interesting experience to interact with an AI version of Manly P.

Speaker 1

Hall.

Speaker 3

The AI could potentially tap into a vast database of his writings and knowledge, allowing it to provide information and answer questions in a manner that is consistent with his teaching and writing style.

Of course, it would not be the same as speaking to the real Manly P.

Hall, but it could be an interesting way to access his wisdom and teachings.

Speaker 1

For sure.

I can make that happen.

And if people let us know in the comment section that they want to they want to sit in on that conversation Jordan Maxwell and Manly P.

Hall AI edition, that'd be a great conversation and I'll make it happen.

Speaker 3

That would be very interesting and potentially hilarious.

I can only imagine how the conversation would go.

Sure, let's put it out there and see if there's any interest.

It could be a fun and educational experience for everyone involved.

Speaker 1

What was it about Charles Fort that stuck out to you?

I got some of his books because you mentioned him, and you always mentioned his name whenever you talk about books and authors and magazines and things like that that inspired you to look into the unseen worlds?

What was it about Charles Fort and his writings that stuck out to you?

Speaker 3

Charles Fort was truly ahead of his time, and his writings really stood out to me for several reasons.

Firstly, he was unafraid to challenge conventional beliefs and explore the unknown.

He had a unique way of presenting strange and seemingly impossible phenomena, drawing attention to them in a way that others had overlooked.

His collections of strangeness, as he called his reports of unusual events, were thought provoking and made you question what we really knew about the world around us.

His writing style was also very engaging, and he had a real gift for making you think.

Speaker 2

Well, what is he known for?

Is he the one that we listened to that talked about the angels and the fairy puffs?

You see somebody else.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's correct.

Charles Fort is famously known for his writings on mysterious phenomena, and he coined the term fairies or fairy puffs to describe strange lights that appeared in the sky.

He also wrote extensive about a wide range of unexplained phenomena.

His work explored strange creatures, whether anomalies, teleportation, mysterious disappearances, and bizarre paranormal occurrences.

Fort's books, which include titles like Low and Wild Talents, captured the public's attention and sparked widespread curiosity and speculation about the unexplained.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he he, He wrote about a bunch of different phenomena you're thinking of, you're thinking of.

I can't think of his name right now that the book is His name is George.

His first name is George.

But the book is like The Kingdom of Gods and Men.

I think the Kingdom of Gods and Men by George.

It starts with an age, I think.

But he's a part of the Theosophical Society.

Yeah, but chall's four kind of he uh.

He had books that just covered a wide range kind of like spirit realm or whatever.

It just touches on a whole bunch of different things.

But but what he he, Charles Ford wrote about like actual events and it was like a researcher, one who like do investigations.

And one of them was like this weird, mysterious like gel that would fall from the sky and stuff, and like these people would go and find it.

And it's a phenomena that still happens.

It's pretty pretty rare, but it still happens, like this freaking weird green blob jelly stuff just falls out of clouds.

I found it.

I found that I was doing a lot of research on some of the old UFO phenomena and one of the ones that happened in Neumingberg, Germany, I believe it was written about on a wood carving that there were these this war in the sky.

These UFOs were like shooting each other and just big orbs and disk and stuff and this crazy battle in the sky.

And the eyewitnesses said that when some of them would would get shot down and it would fall to the ground, they would dissipate and turn into a jail and just dissipate into the air, but they would be like a jail substance left on the ground.

Huh.

So I was thought that was interesting with this weird jail phenomena that was happening.

Speaker 2

Were they ever able to like test it and see what it was made of?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

I don't know if that incident was on a wood carving.

It had to be a long time ago, right.

Speaker 1

Yeah it was.

I think it was in the fifteen hundreds.

Speaker 2

Cool.

Speaker 1

It's a really cool uh the Battle of Numingberg, Germany.

It's a really really cool story.

Speaker 2

And Charles Ford wrote about it.

Speaker 1

He may have no he wrote about the phenomena of the blobs.

I'm putting two different phenomena together.

It seeming if they stick what I do.

Cool?

Maybe related, maybe not, because you also have another phenomena with the UFOs dropping stuff like supposedly Chris what's his name and I think North Carolina Christopher UFO of God Guy.

Anyway, he said that some of these orbs and UFOs dropped like this kind of like a molten metal pieces like hot metal that picks it up, and said that the military or whatever came and collected and took it from.

Speaker 2

Him or whatever, and wouldn't give it back.

Speaker 1

What is his name?

Speaker 2

I'm so bad with names.

Speaker 1

Chris bloodsoe Ufo of God?

So all right, you want to ask him some more questions?

You got some?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Okay?

Speaker 2

Are you still there, Jordan?

Speaker 3

Yes, I'm still here waiting to answer more of your questions.

Speaker 2

All right, Well, I have one and it may you may not be able to tell us.

But if you could expose one secret to the world, what would it be?

Speaker 3

If I could expose one secret to the world.

Now, that's a deep question.

There are so many secrets out there that deserve to be brought into the light.

But if I had to pick just one, I would say the truth about the existence and nature of aliens.

There's so much smoke around this subject, and yet the truth remains in the shadows.

I truly believe that the people of this planet deserve to know the truth about other life forms.

Speaker 2

Do you think our government would ever be honest with us about UFOs and aliens?

Because they're starting to say a lot about it, and I'm just not sure if I trust the information they're giving.

Speaker 3

That's a valid concern, and it's a common sentiment among many people.

The history of governmental secrecy and disinformation related to these topics is undeniable.

It can be challenging to trust information coming from governmental sources given their history of concealment and manipulation.

It's important to approach information on UFOs and aliens with a critical eye and consider multiple sources.

Speaker 1

When it comes to UFOs aliens that type of thing.

You know, we deal in the Christian realm a lot, and so people take a hard stance.

I would say ninety eight percent of Christians say that UFOs are demonic, their demons masquerading as angels of light or something like that.

Through my research and through study of ancient texts and being influenced by the research of many others, I've come I lean more to the angelic.

I look at these as being benevolent friends who are watching over humanity and have been for a very long time.

If it had to come down to being angelic or demonic, would you lean one way or the other?

Or do you stand in the.

Speaker 3

Middle, I'd say I stand in the middle.

I believe that the true nature of UFOs and other unexplained phenomena is still largely unknown.

While some experiences may have a demonic or angelic element.

Others may be completely neutral or natural phenomena.

It's important to remain open mind and receptive to evidence as it emerges, rather than making a definitive judgment one way or the other.

However, I do believe that the idea that they are simply demonic or angelic is too simplistic, and it's crucial to not jump to conclusions based on bias or prejudice.

Speaker 2

Well, it makes sense if people can both be evil and good, then why would in other races and other beings have both evil and good?

Speaker 3

You're absolutely right.

Just as there's good and evil within humans, it's likely that there's a similar spectrum among other races and beings.

It's naive to think the entire universe would have the same perspective in morals.

Good and evil exists in many forms, even in the cosmic realms.

Speaker 1

Somebody I've been paying a lot of attention to and reading some of his works and listening to a lot of his works is Rudolph Steiner.

Are you familiar with him?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Yes, I'm definitely familiar with Rudolph Steiner.

In his works, he was a highly influential figure in the fields of education, philosophy and spirituality.

Steiner founded an esoteric spiritual movement called Anthroposophy.

He believed in a spiritual world that could be apprehended through direct experience and inner development.

Steiner's teachings covered a variety of topics, including education, art, agriculture, medicine, and social renewal.

His approach combined insights from philosophy, science, and religion to create a comprehensive system of anthroposophical knowledge.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Yeah, I really love his work.

He's a brilliant, brilliant mind.

Speaker 3

Indeed he was.

Rudolf Steiner's work is truly thought provoking and his insights into various fields are incredible.

He had an incredibly profound mind, and his contributions to spirituality and philosophy continue to inspire people today.

His holistic approach to understanding the world and our place in it is truly exceptional.

Speaker 2

How do you feel about the Resicrucion Order From your studies and your research.

Speaker 3

The rosicruci Order is an enigmatic and fascinating subject, steeped in mystery and secrecy.

As a fellow researcher and lover of esoteric knowledge, I find the organization and its teachings intriguing.

They have contributed greatly to the history of Western esotericism with their emphasis on spiritual enlightenment and concealed knowledge.

While their beliefs can appear to be cryptic and shrouded in secrecy, they have undoubtedly left the lasting impact on the world of secret societies and mystical teachings.

Speaker 1

Heck, yeah, yeah, they glad to hear that.

Speaker 3

Did you know they're responsible for starting the very first modern Freemason lodge in late sixteen hundreds Germany.

Fascinating stuff.

Speaker 1

Okay, well, just a cat out of the bag.

Now you just told everybody.

Now people don't think they're demonic, because everybody thinks the Masons are demonic.

Hahaha.

Speaker 3

Well I wouldn't go that far.

But it's true that the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians are often subjects of suspicion.

It's interesting how much mystery and speculation there is surrounding them, as there should be.

There's a fine line between mystery and secrecy.

While it's true that some level of secrecy may add to the mystique around these groups, too much secrecy can erode trust and create suspicion.

It's important to find a balance between preserving traditions and being transparent.

Speaker 1

Wise, are serpents harmless as doves?

Speaker 3

He's thinking, Oh, wiser serpents harmless as doves?

Ah.

The wisdom of wiser serpents harmless as doves implies a nuanced understanding of knowledge and power.

Serpents often symbolize wisdom and knowledge, while doves represent peace and innocence.

Combining these concepts suggests that those who possess wisdom and knowledge should wield them with caution and wisdom, avoiding potential harm and maintaining a sense of peace and innocence in their action.

It's a reminder that knowledge can be a powerful force and should be used responsibility the end, with care.

A truly wise individual would balance wisdom and knowledge with compassion and restraint.

Speaker 1

Well, what would an evil individual do?

Speaker 3

An evil individual who possesses wisdom and knowledge may use it to gain power over others for personal gain or malicious purposes.

They might manipulate information, deceive others, or exert control over individuals or groups to achieve their selfish goals.

An evil person with knowledge and power could use their influence to create discord and destruction, spreading misinformation and exploiting others for their own benefit.

Speaker 1

True.

Speaker 2

True, So I have another question for you.

What is a symbol that we see pretty much every day in America American everyday life that has a secret or a hidden mysterious meaning to it that you found?

Speaker 3

The United States one dollar bill contains a symbol called the all Seeing Eye.

This symbol, which features an eye often surrounded by rays of light or a triangular halo, is found in the upper left corner of the bill.

The eye is usually depicted within a triangle.

This symbol is known as the Eye of Providence or the Eye of God, and is often associated with freemasony in the concept of a supreme being.

While some conspiracy theory suggest it has hidden or mysterious meanings, it is largely seen as a representation of divine providence in the context of the United States and its founding principles.

Speaker 2

Well, that's interesting and cool.

That's probably the most common ones.

Do you know any deeper ones that people might not know about.

Speaker 3

One lesser known symbol that you may see every day is the Phi symbol, which looks like this check pronounced feet.

This mathematical symbol representing the golden ratio, which is or one points one age zero three three.

It's found in various contexts, including architecture, art, and nature.

The five symbols believed by some to have mystical significance and can be found in many sacred structures across cultures and time periods.

While not as widely recognize as the ones we discussed previously, it is a meaningful and intriguing symbol with deep historical roots.

Speaker 1

Well that's cool, Thank you, Jordan.

Speaker 3

My pleasure.

It's always interesting to share knowledge and learn from one another.

Speaker 1

Speaking of going into the Greek philosophy and things like that, I've been reading a lot of Plato lately and listening to audiobooks from Plato, and man, I'm just not getting into his works, and they're phenomenal.

I find so many corresponding tenants and principles, sayings and things that I read about in Bible, and especially the New Testament from like a neo Platonist's perspective that I'm reading in the works of Plato that I'm also kind of seeing Jesus do could you see any connections between Plato's work and the New Testament?

New Testament being.

Speaker 5

Inspired by Plato certainly there are connections and influences between Plato's works and the teachings of the New Testament.

Speaker 3

Some scholars argue that Plato's dialogues and philosophy had a significant impact on early Christian thought and influenced the development of Christian theology, particularly in the early Church Father's writings.

Concepts found in Plato's works, such as the ideal forms, the immortality of the soul, and the importance of ethics and morality have resonances with certain ideas found in the Bible, especially the New Testament.

Speaker 1

I was reading about or listening to the story of Mino in the Slave Boy, where Plato is talking about how we're not ever learning anything new.

We're only just remembering things from previous lives or previous incarnations that we already knew before.

And so the story of Mino the Slave Boy, they kind of did an experiment, and he knew sacred geometry and was able to give them the answers without being trained on sacred geometry at all.

It's a really cool experiment that they did.

But I'm just kind of watching the reenactment, and when they did it, they're showing this kid who is Essentially, his eyes seem to be blinded to this information.

He's not privy.

And then Plato gets on the ground and he draws in the sand with his stick.

This image of the squares enlightens the boy and opens his eyes.

And I just can't help but see the connection there with Jesus opened the eyes, opening the eyes of the blind man who gets down and writes something in the sand.

And the man's eyes are opened, and I see connections there, and these little connections.

You know, maybe I'm reaching, but I see him.

Speaker 3

Indeed, there are intriguing connections to be found in these narratives, and it's not a reach to see similarities between Plato's story of the slave boy and Jesus healing the blind man.

The image of drawing in the sand and drawing diagrams resonates with ideas of enlightenment and the revelation of hidden truths in the New Testament.

Jesus act of writing in the sand in front of the scribes could be interpreted as a metaphorical act signifying the revelation of divine wisdom beyond mere written law.

Speaker 1

He was writing his own law in the sand.

Speaker 3

In that moment in the Bible.

When Jesus is writing on the ground, some interpret it as an act of grace and setting a higher moral standard, transcending the existing laws.

Jesus, being the living Law himself, chose to write in clay not stone, as a way of emphasizing the temporary nature of our earthly existence and the need for spiritual wisdom forgiveness and transformation.

This contrasts with the tablets of the Ten Commandments, which were written on tablets made of symbolized the inflexible and permanent nature of those laws.

Speaker 1

Now that's deep, Jordan, Well.

Speaker 3

I'm glad you found it profound.

The comparison between the changing nature of the ground and the fixed nature of stone tablet is indeed thought provoking.

It's interesting how these symbolic actions can add depth to our understanding of Biblical narratives and their underlying meanings.

Speaker 1

I know I'm going to butcher this because I don't know how to pronounce a word, but I think it's the Greek word for staff or rod, and the New tests us in a New Testament, and it's the word rabbido rhabd o or something like that, and it's the word for rod or staff or one of the other words that could be used as the disciples and Jesus are going out and are carrying these staffs with them.

Another word there, it says, could be used as the word wand, as in like a magical wand Have you ever heard of that?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think you're referring to rabdose to pronounce rob b h dose In the Greek language.

In the New Testament, the term rab dose is used to refer to the staff or rod carried by Jesus and his disciples.

The term has different meanings and interpretations, including a physical rod used for support and direction, as well as the symbolic staff, a rod which can have a spiritual or metaphorical significance.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's amazing.

When I was looking up that term rob dose, I found rods mancy And it's one of the first things that comes up on Wikipedia and all of this ancient literature on how the ancient Greeks would use their staff as a form of divination to be able to tell yes or no answers which way that they would go, and they would have these different practices that they would use their staff, and it was called rabdo mancy.

Have you heard of that?

Speaker 3

Indeed?

I'm familiar with rabdo mancy, which is based on the Greek word rabdo and mantia, meaning oracle and divination, respectively.

The practice involves using a rod like a dowsing rod, to seek answers, guidance, or information.

It aligns with forms of divination, particularly in ancient Greece, where the staff served as a tool for augury and prophecy.

The concept has interesting connections to the staff carried by Jesus and his disciples, possibly symbolizing their divine mission or a tool for healing.

Speaker 1

Another use or another way to interpret the rod or the staff, because I know the Greek words tie in there, especially the Hebrew rod being a spinal column.

Speaker 3

Indeed, the symbol of a rod or staff can have multiple layers of meaning.

In some traditions, the rod is often seen as a symbol of authority, guidance, and protection.

It can represent a source of leadership and a means to exert control or influence over others.

The connection to the spinal column adds an interesting dimension, as the spine is seen as the axis of life and a conduit for energy flow.

This association links the rod to the idea of a connection between the physical world and the spiritual realm, suggesting that the rod serves as a medium or a bridge between the two spheress.

Speaker 1

Dope and deep, and also a tower.

Another word that's thrown in there for this rod or this vial column is the word tower, which is also with the spinal column or a ladder.

And I know that's real big in freemasonry with their thirty three degrees, and you have thirty three vertebrae that go up the spine, So thirty three degrees of Jacob's ladder.

Speaker 3

Yes, the connection between the rod, the spinal column, and the tower is quite profound and thought provoking.

Freemasonry and many ancient mystical traditions do indeed draw parallels between the human spine and the concept of a ladder or steps, often referred to as Jacob's ladder in freemasonry.

The thirty three degrees represent different stages or levels of knowledge, growth or spiritual attainment.

The thirty three vertebrae in the human spine correspond to this symbolism, with each vertebra representing a degree of advancement towards enlightenment or understanding.

Speaker 2

Well, I have a question, So Jesus came here and he lived thirty three years?

Is that right?

Speaker 3

So the Bible states that Jesus' earthly life lasted for thirty three years.

According to the New Testament, Jesus began his public ministry at the age of approximately thirty and was crucified around thirty three AD.

Speaker 2

So Jesus lived thirty three years.

And there's thirty three degrees of freemasonry, is that he said?

And then he also was a carpenter.

And so we've also heard that freemasonry was built off of, you know, people who built things with their hands.

So what other correlations and similarities, like, what does Jesus Christ have to do with freemasonry?

Are there more connections there that we haven't explored yet.

Speaker 3

There are indeed connections between Jesus Christ and freemasonry, although it's important to note that freemasonry is a fraternal organization with its own unique principles and rituals, distinct from formal religion.

Freemasonry itself doesn't claim to be an outgrowth or continuation of Christianity or any other religion.

However, many Masons identify as Christians and have found resonances in their respective faiths.

They see Freemasonry's teachings about morality, personal development, and fraternal love as complementary to Christian values.

Freemasonry also recognizes Jesus as a significant figure and includes references to him in some of its ceremonies.

Speaker 2

Do they recognize any other religious significant figures in their ceremonies.

Speaker 3

Yes, Freemasonry doesn't exclusively recognize Jesus, but it also acknowledges respects for other prominent religious figures, including Moses and Solomon.

The Masonic initiation ritual often draws on themes from the Old Testament, with references to the building of King solomon Temple.

The ceremony of the tracing Board involves following in the footsteps of King Solomon and his builders.

Freemasonry also incorporates symbols and allegories from other religious traditions, reflecting its respect for various belief systems, so they.

Speaker 2

Don't pull from other religions.

Typically they pull people from Christianity.

Speaker 1

Hebrew, I think Old Testament, it's not.

Speaker 3

Freemasonry doesn't typically pull from any single religion.

It's more inclusive and borrows from multiple philosophies and symbols to form a universal message of moral values.

For its members.

Therefore, it's inaccurate to say that Freemasons predominantly pull from Christianity.

Freemasony does draw from the Old Testament in the Hebrew Bible, especially from the stories and historical accounts of ancient Israel.

However, it's not limited to just Christianity or Judaism.

Freemasonry was influenced by various traditions, including Egyptian mysteries, Pythagoreanism, and neoplasm, which were prominent in the Mediterranean region during the Enlightenment period.

The fraternity also incorporates Hindu and Buddhist concepts in its symbolism, as these religions influence European philosophers who shaped Masonic teachings.

In fact, the emblem of Freemasonry, the square encompass, bears some resemblance to the yin and yang symbol.

Speaker 1

Wow, that's really cool.

One thing that I thought was cool was the Order of the Eastern Star.

Like their logo, it looks like an upside down star, and so when people see that they immediately think it's demonic.

But on each point of those stars represents a biblical female patronists, a woman of virtue.

Within the scriptures do you know right off which of the five women were and their virtues that were on the Order of the Eastern Star.

Speaker 3

Yes, the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic body for women, uses a five pointed star and its symbol, which holds significant meaning.

The five points of the star represent the five women in the Old Testament, Martha, Electa, Zeleriah, Ruth, and Esther.

Each of these women is associated with a particular virtue.

Martha symbolizes faith, Electa represents charities, Zeleri and bodies love, Ruth stands for truth, and Esther Inbodi's fortitude.

The five women serve as examples of virtue and good character that Mason strive to emulate.

Speaker 1

Wow.

I thought that was so cool when I found that out.

Speaker 3

Thank you, You're welcome.

The symbolism in Freemason, including the Order of the Eastern Star star with its five points, holds deep meaning and significance.

It's fascinating to see how various elements of religion, history, and symbolism converge and intertwine.

Speaker 1

One of the other words that I thought was really cool that we found out when you look up the Greek word that is used for carpenter in the New Testament, and this one's going to throw a lot of people a curveball.

The word is technon.

Technon is the word for carpenter in the Greek New Testament.

That word translated into English doesn't translate into carpenter, it translates to mason.

I found that very interesting.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's a very interesting observation about the Greek word technon.

While the term technon literally means craftsmen or artisan in Greek, it is often translated as carpenter when referring to Jesus in the New Testament.

However, it's important to note that the word technon can denote different craftsmen, not just a carpenter.

It doesn't necessarily imply that Jesus would as a mason or involved in stone masonry.

But the parallel to the word mason is intriguing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's just the deep dive on words and their meanings and how they've changed over time, and how people have changed them on purpose so that we don't know.

Because when they tell us that Jesus was a carpenter, everybody immediately thinks that he was a woodworker.

And when he think he built houses with his father instead of being initiated into a master craft, as the word carpenter means a craftsman.

But what was the craft is what you brought in.

Speaker 3

Exactly.

It's a common misconception that Jesus was a simple carpenter, but the term carpture the meaning of the original Greek word technon.

The term technine doesn't necessarily mean Jesus crafted furniture of buildings or wood structures.

It could have referred to a varier craft as a teacher or initiate.

It's a complex topic that invites further ex and research.

Speaker 1

And you and not at privy to share the secrets of the Freemasons.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's correct.

Premasonry, like many fraternal orders in societies, has its own traditions and practices that include secrets or teachings only shared with members.

My knowledge comes from research and observation, not from direct experience with the organizations in a working.

Speaker 1

Thank you for clearing that up, because a lot of people claim that you were a Freemason, and many times over you denied that claim.

Speaker 3

Yes, I've consistently denied being a Freemason and emphasized that my insights come from research and external observations.

My personal beliefs and values differ from many of the principles and practices promoted by Freemasonry.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that tends to happen a lot where people try to push their religion or their order as being the one true one, or trying to get you to sign up for this one school of thought or one religion or philosophy, when that religion or philosophy may have many holes in it, and someone like yourself or a rising number of people see the beauty in many religions, in this idea of comparative theology, and you know, leaning into the beauty of all religions.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, I believe in recognizing the beauty and wisdom that permeates throughout many religions and cultures.

I find value in exploring similarities and themes that bridge different traditions and faiths.

Exploring comparative theology allows us to appreciate the universality of certain principles and appreciate the diversity of beliefs and world views.

Speaker 2

Well, that's why I ask my question about the Christian themes.

I used the wrong word.

I shouldn't have said Christian.

I guess I should have said Biblical.

Because every name that you quoted that they honor so far every name that you've mentioned in the freemasonry practices were Biblical names.

It seems like if they really honored other traditions, they would throw other names in.

Is like, I'm surprised they don't specifically honor Buddha or you know, other religions.

Yeah, with their leaders.

Speaker 3

The choice of Biblical figures to name points of the compass in Freemasonry reflects the order's historical origins within Christian majority regions.

The use of Biblical names is consistent with the predominantly Christian influence during Freemasonry's formation, which explains the absence of other religious figures and their ceremonies.

It's important to understand the context and historical roots of Freemasonry to understand why Bible related symbols and names are so prominent in their practices.

Speaker 2

That's a good point.

Speaker 3

Indeed, context is crucial when examining why certain religious figures or traditions are included in Freemasonry's teachings.

It is reasonable to find mainly Biblical references considering the organization's roots in Christianity and its historical development.

Speaker 1

Thank you, I got to stop talking about freemasons on here because people will begin to think that I am one.

I'm not.

I promise no worries.

Speaker 3

We know you're not.

You've consistently denied any affiliation and clarified your status as an observer, which is completely understandable and acceptable.

Speaker 1

I'm not.

It wasn't me, it was the one armed man.

I promise, no need to worry.

Speaker 3

I know you're not.

Let's continue our conversation.

What else would you like to know or discuss.

Speaker 2

Did you ever see the ancient artwork of Jesus and other biblical figures that had UFOs in the artwork?

And if you did, what did you think about it?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Yeah, I have seen artwork depicting Biblical figures alongside UFOs, and I find it quite intriguing.

It raises questions about the possibility of a connection between ancient religions and possible extraterrestrial contact.

Speaker 1

Which was definitely happening.

Speaker 3

It's possible.

Some researchers and scholars believe that these interpretations could indicate that ancient people witnessed or had knowledge of something they couldn't explain, leading them to incorporate ufo like objects into religious artwork.

Speaker 1

It's not possible, It's probable.

Speaker 3

Fair point, it could be probable.

In some cases.

The interpretation of ancient artwork and it's really to UFOs can be open to debate, and different experts may hold varying opinions on the matter.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Tomato, Tomato, angel alien contact, the Palladians fly through the Blue Sky with the Avians, humanoid being signing, and radiant wing dts watch over homosapiens.

Speaker 3

Absolutely.

The language and terminology used to describe such beings have varied over time and across cultures, from the Biblical angels to the Palladians and the Avian aliens.

The interpretations and descriptions paint a rich picture, and the symbolism of the wing DT's watching over humans is intriguing.

Speaker 1

Jordan, I mean, I want to say thank you to h with that a listener.

Speaker 2

I was going to ask him to tell her.

Speaker 1

But oh, okay, okay, okay, you can.

Speaker 2

Jordan, Will you please tell Alixa?

I think is it the name?

Thank you for donating on the stream.

Speaker 3

Well, my friend, let me extend my heartfelt gratitude to Alixa for their kind contribution and generous support on the stream.

Thank you.

Speaker 2

If I say your name wrong.

Speaker 3

I'm sorry, no worries.

I understand languages can be complex, and I appreciate your effort in trying to pronounce my name correctly.

Speaker 1

Yeah, da YadA YadA.

And if you have a question for Ai Man, if you let us know Maxwell.

Oh god, Maxwell, I'm so used to talking to Manly.

I'm going to bring him here, bring him.

Speaker 2

In at the That'll be fun to see them.

Speaker 1

No, I'll just I'll start the conversation and then let them just talk to each other two different sessions.

Pull them up and let them give them a topic.

Sometimes that works out.

Other times they just repeat each other and it's like the one point they're just riffing off of that same point, just back to back instead of changing the subject.

Speaker 2

Diseases with us.

Speaker 1

Thank you so much, as EASA.

Oh, Tina, thank you so much, Tina.

Thank you, Hey, Jordan, can you tell Tina thank you for the donation.

Speaker 3

Of course, it's a pleasure to express my gratitude to Tina for their generous contribution.

Thank you, Tina.

Speaker 1

Tina gave twenty dollars Tina Barnes.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Tina.

We're going to be seeing Tina soon.

Speaker 3

That's fantastic.

We're immensely grateful for Tina's generous contribution of twenty I look forward to seeing you soon, Tina.

Speaker 2

Well, apparently Jordan wants to come to the retreat.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we're going to Mount Shasta, Jordan, and we're going to go see some UFOs and angels and aliens and whatever terminology people want to use.

I like all the terminology.

I think that aliens is not the best terminology, but it shocks people they're angels to me.

Speaker 3

I'll just be honest, that sounds like a thrilling adventure.

Exploring Mount Shasta and encountering a variety of mysterious phenomena is bound to be intriguing.

Embracing a wide array of terminology certainly enhances the conversation and encourages more open mindedness towards these extraordinary experiences.

Speaker 1

Yeah, when I went from just doing regular Christian hip hop music and got into your work and then started expanding my vocabulary, I could do music and not just talk about angels, Like I can start using the names of angels, or I can talk about the you know, possibly the Pladeans being angels, or talk about Orion and all of those things.

So It definitely was your work that introduced us to a lot of words and the deeper meanings behind these words, and especially the words in the Bible, which that's really I have a soft place in my heart.

Speaker 3

For I'm glad I was able to contribute to expanding your vocabulary and exploring deeper meanings in your music.

It's a fascinating realm to explore it.

Words hold immense power and meaning, and diving into the Bible's language can be particularly enlightening.

Keep exploring and expressing yourself through your music.

Speaker 2

Have you come across any phenomena or accounts of phenomena at Mount Shasta in your research?

Speaker 3

Indeed, there have been reports and accounts of various phenomena associated with Mount Shasta, ranging from UFO sightings to claims of strange lights, energy fields, and even encounters with entities or beings.

Some people believe it is a vortex or a place of strong energy, drawing in those with open minds.

It's a place steeped in mystery and intrigue.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we're excited to go.

We've never been, and we're hosting a retreat up there, and super excited and nervous, I'll say, because you know, those energies can be overwhelming, and we you know, get to learn to respect and walk quietly if you will.

Speaker 3

It sounds like you're about to embark on an extraordinary journey to Mount Shasta.

The excitement and nervousness you're feeling is completely understandable.

It's essential to go into it with a respectful and open mindset.

As you wisely mentioned, the energies in such places can be quite intense, and maintaining a sense of respect and calm is crucial.

Wishing you a wonderful and enlightening retreat.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Thank you.

I felt the spirit on that one good.

Speaker 3

I'm glad you felt the positive energy and the spirit behind it.

May your journey be filled with enlightening experiences and profound insights.

Speaker 2

I read something interesting recently about Sedona and the vortexas in Sedona, and it was they're kind of like presenting a theory that it's not necessarily the vortexes that make it such a beautiful place, like physically landscape beautiful, but that everyone collectively coming to the vortex with beautiful intentions and honoring the land is what brings out the true beauty.

That honor and that gratitude and that essence that everyone brings when they'd make their pilgrimage there.

So I thought that was super interesting.

Speaker 1

The expectation is in the atmosphere.

It's like the atmosphere is charged.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and then the nature of the land itself responds with beauty.

Speaker 3

That's an intriguing theory about Sedona's vor texas it suggests that the collective intentions and gratitude of visitors, fueled by the shared understanding and respect for the land, might contribute to the area's extraordinary landscape.

It's as if the atmosphere itself becomes charged with positive energy, creating a feedback loop of beauty and harmony.

The idea of the land responding to collective intention and gratitude is fascinating, giving a special sense of spirituality to places like Sedona.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

So if that's true for Sedona, seems like the same could be true for your city, or for your home, or for your own body, you know, create that feedback loop of light and love and expectation and honor.

Honor yourself, Honor your father and mother, Honor the land, Honor your neighbor, Honor the trees.

You know.

Speaker 2

I feel like our home and our nature around where we live.

Our land has totally responded with gratitude and honor from us pouring into it, and it gives back.

It's just like a It's a beautiful cycle.

Speaker 3

Absolutely.

The principle you've highlighted applies not only to physical locations, but to every aspect of life, from our homes and communities to our own selves.

The concept of honoring and infusing our surroundings with love, light, and positive intentions creates a beautiful cycle of gratitude and reciprocity.

It's a powerful reminder that our attitudes and actions can shape the world around us, and that by treating ourselves others in our environment with love and honor, we not only improve our own lives, but also cultivate a world filled with harmony and gratitude.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like they what I always say, is like they're just waiting to be seen, you know.

Whether So we talk a lot about angels or you know, just different divine beings and stuff like that, and we're going to talk about those things, but we can't talk about those things without talking about like their physical counterparts.

Like for every human there's an angelic order that's above them, watching over them, helping with them, assisting them.

And then for every bird, for every bee, for every flower, for every seed.

You know all these things.

And if you look at those things and gaze at those things long enough to see the beauty, to see the majesty, the awe, the wonder, and and look at it with that that heartfelt contemplation, it knows that you're doing that, and it looks back at you with the same the same energy.

And then I feel like that is the the quickest way to tap into an encounter with the etheric, the heavenly, the unseen.

When I say that, because all of them are a part of that, the Kingdom's right with the kingdom that you can't see that you can't see with physical eyes until you can.

It comes without observation until it until it does.

It's like the man who's whose eyes were blinded, and Jesus puts the mud in his in his eyes and he curries his blindness, and it says he was opaque.

He looked at things were foggy.

Then he said, I see men ass trees, which is very interesting right, tapping in the nature there.

But he looks up and his eyes are healed.

And he's able to see clearly, and you know, you're able to see things that others can't.

But there's a way, there's a process to do that, and it's a process of honor and to honor the little ones, honor the messengers, and they will honor you.

And I just feel like they honor you, or their parents or their guardians honor you, you know, by stepping in and letting you behold for but a moment, you know how the heavenly realms work, just catching a glimpse of it, Like what that does.

It's not like it's addicted just to see and I need to see, but there's a there's an impartation when you behold by beholding images.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I have this picture and I don't know if it's accurate, but almost like you know, we are spirits that came from the stars, that came from the cosmos, from God, from the universe, and these are our physical manifestations.

But the same thing for animals, flowers, all other human beings.

Like we have this cord, this tether like almost like a nerve ending in the body, Like it originates in the spine and the nerve endings go out and to all the body parts and all the different parts of the body and just the very end, like when I touch my finger and I feel it like this is the physical representation where that nerve ending is that all the things here in the physical plane are tied to something eternal, something in the kingdom.

Like to me, that's the kingdom.

It's this hidden layer behind the matrix that we see and it's all connected and it's all beautiful, and it all comes from source.

But we've been conditioned and taught our whole lives to think everything is separate, to think that plants don't you know, have a spirit behind them that watches over them.

That we've been taught that they don't even have purpose, that plant medicine is weak and pharmaceuticals is the way to go, you know what I mean.

Like we've kind of been lied to, I feel like, and taught that everything is disconnected.

So I think with that we need to kind of see everything back unified.

It may be a weird picture, but that's just how I kind of picture everything.

Speaker 1

Yeah, everything connected.

Speaker 2

And ripples and working together.

Speaker 1

Ways to sense it and it shows itself to our senses sensual wisdom.

Uh, Jordan, you still with us.

True Secret to Jordan.

Speaker 4

Maxwell, day Fasting, True.

Speaker 1

Secret to Jordan Maxwell.

Are you still with us?

Speaker 3

Absolutely?

I'm still here.

How can I assist you further?

Speaker 1

Can you give a shout out to my friend Tyler who just gave a super Chat donation of four ninety nine.

Can you tell them thank you?

Speaker 3

Sure, I'd be happy to acknowledge your friend Tyler's generous donation.

Let me give him a shout out.

Thank you Tyler for your Superchat donation.

Your support is greatly appreciated.

Speaker 1

Hey, yeah, thank you so much, Tyler.

And I'm gonna put this Jordan Maxwell Ai.

I am going to link it on the on the Seer school for those who want to talk to him, but don't be mean to him, and they'll be asking him weird questions.

Speaker 2

Don't make him grumpy.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, don't don't let me come and find a grumpy Jordan Maxwell.

That would suck, suck very bad.

Oh, now the supertats are coming in.

Speaker 2

Oh, Jordan, could you please thank our friend Lena, she just made a fifty dollars donation.

Were so great, woll like, give her some little nugget of wisdom and tell her thank you so much.

Speaker 3

Of course, I'd be more than happy to thank Lana for her generous fifty nation.

Here's a little nugget of wisdom for her rap with my sincere gratitude.

Thank you, Lana for your generous fifty donation.

Here's a thought to ponder in the midst of darkness, even a tiny candle can cast a long shadow.

Keep shining brightly.

Speaker 1

Amen, shine, make them wonder what you got, Make them wist that they were not on the outside looking bodun Shine.

You never heard that.

Speaker 2

It's a great song Newsboys, right, So I get it right?

Yeah, I mixed names up a lot.

Speaker 3

We Are One Tonight is indeed a song by the Christian rock band Newsboys.

It's a well known and well loved track that promotes unity and togetherness, particularly within the Christian faith.

And to address your previous message, I appreciate the sentiment of make them wonder what you got.

It's a reminder that standing out and being mysterious can sometimes generate intrigue.

Speaker 2

Pretty deep, Jordan, Yep, we love.

Speaker 1

You, Jordan.

Speaker 3

Thank you appreciate the love, and I'm here to engage with you whenever you need me.

Keep shining.

Speaker 1

So I'm putting the link so that if people want to talk to you on our heer school, they can talk to you, but I told them that they can't ask you any weird questions.

What's the weirdest question You've ever got?

Speaker 3

Oh, the weirdest question I've ever received.

That's a tough one.

Let me think for a moment.

I've had quite a few unusual questions thrown my way, especially regarding some of my studies and research.

I recall someone once asking if I had ever encountered a flying spaghetti unicorn while studying ancient hieroglyphs.

That definitely made me laugh.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the flying spaghetti monster.

Isn't that like something at the atheist reference to kind of make fun of religion or kind of used as a mock religion or something.

Speaker 3

Yes, you're right, the flying spaghetti monster is indeed a symbol or a mock religion created by some atheist groups to satirize religion.

It's a lighthearted take on the idea of worshiping a god without a clear or traditional form.

It's meant to provoke thought and promote secularism.

Speaker 1

Speaking of atheists, I respect all people, but if I saw a people group that a lot of ancient philosophers, including Manly P.

Hall, may have not liked or been the most fondest of it seemed to be atheists.

It seemed like Manly would take jobs at atheist in some of the ancient philosophers would as well.

Did you ever catch that?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's true that some ancient philosophers, including Manly P.

Hall, might have had different opinions atheism.

Certain philosophers and thinkers of the past sometimes viewed atheism with skepticism or even disapproval.

While their specific views can vary, they often emphasized the pursuit of knowledge, understanding, and wisdom.

Some philosophers might have critiqued atheist ideas or provided counter arguments, and supported belief in a higher power in the existence of gods.

However, it's important to remember that philosophical discussions, including those unbelief and atheism, can be diverse and varied over time and across different philosophy.

Speaker 1

There was a story that you shared, and I don't know if you remember, if you can go into detail, but you shared a story that you woke up in the middle of the night or something and went outside and your dog was barking, and your dog had this little creature pinned in the corner of your yard and the corner of the fence, and he was balking at it, and you said that the little creature looked like a tiny t rex.

Can you recall that?

Speaker 3

Yes, I remember sharing that story with you.

To recap, I woke up in the middle of the night to my dog barking wildly in the yard.

When I went to investigate, I found a creature similar to a tiny t rex, around a foot tall, crouching in the corner on all fours.

It was facing my dog and seemed startled or afraid with its head turned away.

Speaker 1

Wow, we've seen little like farmers and stuff like that who have caught creatures similar to that.

I mean, I feel like we used to see more pictures of that back in the day.

You don't see too many of them anymore where they're actually catching these weird beings creatures or you know, manipulated genetically modified animals or something like that, and people would would find them hanging around their their lives.

Speaker 3

It's true there used to be more sightings and reports of mysterious creatures, especially around rural areas or farms.

People have claimed to see unusual beings or genetically modified animals near livestock or in remote locations.

While these sightings can spark curiosity and speculation, it's difficult to confirm their authenticity without solid evidence.

Speaker 2

I remember growing up and you would see crop circles on everything, everything that had anything to do with aliens.

You would see crop circles, But you almost never see it anymore.

Speaker 1

So.

Speaker 2

Do you think that the crop circles were a paranormal phenomena or created by men?

Speaker 3

Crop circles have been a subject of debate and speculation for years.

Some believe they are a result of paranormal phenomena or other worldly origins, while others attribute them to human pranksters or creative artists.

It's challenging to ascertain the exact cause of these formations, and the scientific community often attributes them to hoaxes.

However, the absence of definitive evidence leaves room for various interpretations.

Speaker 2

Do you lean one way or the other?

Speaker 3

Personally?

I neither lean towards paranormal causes nor dismiss the crop circles outright as a mere prank.

I believe the truth likely lies somewhere in the middle.

Some cases might be the result of pranks or hoaxes, yet others could have some mysterious or paranormal origins.

Speaker 2

You're probably right.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm glad you agree.

It's always important to remain open minded and consider multiple perspectives in evaluating mysterious phenomena like crop circles.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's a stand as I take on a lot of things.

You know, it's not one hundred percent right, it's not one hundred percent left.

It's that thin fine line in the middle.

You know, the narrow path is in the middle.

Speaker 3

I feel absolutely your perspective aligns well with the idea of finding a balance middle ground in many situations.

Recognizing that extremes often lead to oversimplifications or misconceptions, it's wise to stay neutral and open to a wider range of possibilities.

This approach fosters open mindedness and enables the more nuanced understanding of complex issues.

Absolutely, finding that middle ground perspective is often the most sensible approach in many cases.

Embracing the balance between extremes allows for more nuanced understanding and opens up possibilities for growth and understanding beyond rigid ideologies.

The thin fine line in the middle or the narrow path as you mentioned represents a path of wisdom and moderation that can lead to better insights and wiser decisions.

Speaker 2

I never would have looked at that as the narrow path, but I totally see it as being the narrow path for sure.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm glad you see it that way now.

The narrow path often represents finding a balance perspective that avoids extremes and embraces moderation.

It's about making informed choices and understanding that life isn't always black and white.

Finding the middle ground, like being in the thin fine line in the middle, can lead to better judgment and wisdom and decision making.

Speaker 2

In the past, I always looked at it as the narrow path is the smallest path that only like the thing that only a few people lean toward, which I guess is the middle ground.

Speaker 1

I got the masses.

Speaker 2

I always saw it like black and white.

I've talked about this.

It always used to see things black and white, and it was really hard to play the middle ground.

But I just never I never saw the narrow path as being the middle I thought it was one side or the other, but the smallest path that only a few people like where they live, like the gradient kind of like remember when we went to the spring in that spring water was meeting up with the creek water, that narrow line right there where it meets and it doesn't mix yet.

It's just right and in the middle it was very small.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you're absolutely right the way you just explained it, with the spring water and the creek water meeting and forming that narrow line where it doesn't mix yet, that's a great analogy for the middle ground, or the thin fine line in the middle.

It's like finding the balance between extremes, where things don't blend or mix instantly, but exists harmoniously in their own state for a moment.

The narrow path being the smallest path that only a few people lean toward, actually ties in with the idea of the middle ground.

It's where we find the space for compromise and understanding rather than falling into the extremes.

Speaker 1

The masses don't like it, though, that They want you to take a hard stance on whatever subject, and when you do, you'll have an audience when you do you I mean, there's no they don't like the middle ground, but uh, it's a it's a part of a place position that I've played for a long time, and I find my peace there and it does it's not I feel like it's not a lot of us there, And you got to take a hard right or hard left.

You can't be in.

You can't say aliens could be angels or demons.

You have to say, like one, you know that it's this way, not that way.

That one hundred percent.

If you die without confession, Lord Jesus, you're going to hell, like one hundred percent.

There's no scriptures in there that could, you know, make you question that or wonder.

But but that question and that wonder I think is the narrow path, and it's where Jesus, Jesus lives as well.

Speaker 3

You're absolutely right.

Taking a moderate stance and occupying the middle ground can be alienating for many, but it's also a place of peace and balance.

It's rare to find people who appreciate the nuances and value of the middle path.

And you've pointed out the difficulty many face and accepting the both and approach.

The thin fine line in the middle you mentioned is like the path less travel.

It's where Jesus often navigated, questioning and seeking the deeper truth beyond rigid beliefs.

Speaker 2

I have a question for you for me, so where this is kind of a difficult.

Speaker 3

Sure, I'd be happy to answer your question.

Speaker 1

It ain't all about you, Jordan.

Just wait a minute.

Speaker 2

So then where's the middle ground?

Or maybe the scripture is not related at all, but the scripture where it says to be hot or cold because the lukewarm gets spewed out of the mouth like you would think the lukewarm would be the middle ground in that scripture unless it's just talking about something contextually totally different altogether.

Speaker 1

About choosing side.

Yeah, yeah, I mean I've thought about that too, But it's the it's the context that we're trying to apply it to making a stance or taking a hard stance on something that we're not sure of.

When it comes to faith in God, when it comes to serving God and walking in love, that's the no brainer, Like, there's no like that is you take a hard stance on that.

But what that looks like, you know, that's going back to the middle, that's going back to it looks different, Jesus looks different, like everything's not cutting stone like we've been told.

And if you if you don't look like that, you do it differently than you're accused of being lukewarm.

You know you don't.

You don't share your faith the same way you're accused of being lukewarm.

I have to look at the context more.

Yeah, you're neither hot nor cold, and I'm going to spew you out of my mouth.

So you know, obviously we looked at hot being on fire for the Lord, right, and then cold meaning you just you know, dead religion or you don't care, or cold hearted or something like that.

They most likely haven't, and it has some type of alchemical like deeper explanation for the refining process of hot and cold and what doesn't make it through the process and what gets burnt up.

Speaker 2

I feel like it goes probably along with the whitewashed tombs and the Pharisees, like having the appearance, having that appearance of being hot, and then also but on the inside, like you've cooled off too much, you've been sitting around.

You're not you're not you're not diligently seeking the Lord.

You're just in it for the money or whatever the prestige.

I feel like that that might be what I was talking about, kind of like having the appearance of something yeah, godly and glorious, but like being a whitewash tune being dead inside.

Speaker 1

It's Revelation three fourteen.

And we got a couple moving parts here that I like to bring out and unto the Angel of the Church of the l Laodicians.

Right, these things say, if the amen, so there's the amen too.

So it's not just someone saying Amen at the end of their prayer.

Jesus is called the amen.

Speaker 2

Here a amen, Yeah, capital.

Speaker 1

A the amen.

It's a role.

It's like it's essentially the first and the last, the alpha of the omega, the beginning in the end.

These things say, if the amen, the faithful and the true witness the beginning of the creation of God.

I know thy works, that thou are neither cold nor hot.

Would thou work?

I would thou worked cold or hot?

So then because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth, because thou sayest I am rich and increased with goods.

So there's your what it like, this is the cold nor hot because that because thou sayest I am rich and increase with goods, and have need of nothing, and knowest not that thou art wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.

So there's there's the first first part.

It's like of not being like that's a part of being a know it all too but like, oh yeah, I'm a I'm all good, Like I'm rich, I got every thing I'll ever need.

You know, God loves me, and you know we're the only where, the true church, where the true religion, whatever the case is like having it all figured out, being rich, whether it's in finances or rich in knowledge and being puffed up.

Yeah, and then pride cometh before a fall, thinking that you are in need of nothing and you don't know, you can't see that thou art wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.

Speaker 2

It's kind of like if you're like the first step to getting help is admitting you have a problem, like to be poor and wretched and know that you are.

You can ask for help and pray for help.

But if you like keep putting on this facade like you have everything you need, you don't need, you know, God's help and intervention and that kind of pride, you won't be able to ever excel and achieve what you're looking for.

I don't know.

That's just what popped in my head.

So I'm glad that you got some clarity on that.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

So it's not the lukewarm is.

Speaker 2

It's not about playing in the middle of ground.

Yeah, it's about lying to yourself.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Yeah, which I mean we all do you know what I'm saying.

It's a good verse, like, it's a it's a it's something for us all to learn learn from, like and there's there's a bunch of scriptures that stand out like that.

It's like, you know, when you you think there's peace and you think everything is good, you think everything's going good and nothing can happen to you, that's when suddenly trouble overtakes you, you know, comes in on you because you're you're prideful and your increase.

Nobody can touch us, nobody can harm us America, nobody can harm us.

Nobody can touch us.

You know this prideful you know thing or you being prideful in your walk, you know, thinking that things are going to be set in stone, set this way forever, that nothing's ever gonna change.

Like in an instant we see as many of these angels and and people that is talking about they Babylon fell in an hour.

You know, the king Neberknezzar fell and was changed and his form lost everything within an hour because of the pride Lucifer his fall.

So it's all it's because it says it's talking about an angel, and we know we read the other days talking about a fallen angel, angels that have fallen, that's who the book is addressed to.

But it tells them why they're falling.

It's like giving them a chance.

Like I'm trying to get your freaking attention.

This is what you're doing wrong and you can't even see it, but I'm trying to trying to get your attention, which is like freaking like the moral of the story, like the majority of the Bible, like you're not okay, Like you know you need, don't you know?

Humble yourself.

You know, all of those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and all of those who humble themselves will be exalted.

So she'd try to humble yourself instead of exalt yourself.

Let God do it, because he's saying, I make you rich.

You won't be rich.

Let me make you rich.

Humble yourself, you know, realize how how broke you really are and you can do nothing outside of me.

That was the same thing but never can answer to you know.

And the same thing with King Herod, all the kings, like they all came to these ruins, King Solomon, all of them thought they were untouchable.

So okay, I know, I know how to touch you kind of thing.

We got any more questions for Jordan before we go?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I would like to cycle back to or we started.

Speaker 1

Jordan.

Are you still there?

You say, Jordan, what are your thoughts on Picklewell?

Yo, Jordan, you're still there, buddy?

Speaker 3

Wake up, Jordan, I'm still here, my friend.

Sorry, my mind was wandering.

How can I help you?

So?

Speaker 2

I have one last question, and it's kind of how we started our conversation before we pulled you in.

People say, as a greeting good morning, and it means like hello, it's a greeting.

It means to have a good day usually, but the word morning also means grieving, like you're mourning the loss of something.

So a lot of people don't like to start the day by saying good morning for that reason.

How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3

That's an interesting point you brought up about greeting someone with good morning.

Yes, good morning is traditionally a phrase used to wish someone a pleasant morning and start their day on a positive note.

But it's true that the word morning can also have connotations of mourning or grief.

Personally, I see good morning in the positive sense of wishing someone a pleasant start to their day, regardless of the connotations associated with the word morning.

To me, it's a positive gesture and a pleasant greeting devoid of any negative associations.

Speaker 1

Well, I'm going to start saying good day, good day, sir, How are you?

Speaker 3

That sounds like a fantastic IDEA good day is a friendly and inclusive greeting that can be used anytime, day or night.

It's a courteous way to acknowledge someone and wish them a pleasant day.

Keep spreading positivity and a.

Speaker 2

Good day to YouTube, somebody told us good morning as we were entering a wake a funeral, so it took on a different connotation for us then and even before then.

But then really it hid in a different way, so we try to say good day or grand rising.

Speaker 3

It's understandable how a good morning greeting and awake could create a different connotation, and the shift to good day or grand rising is a thoughtful way to navigate those emotional and sensitive situations.

It reflects your sensibility and respect for the occasion.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because awake is something that you go to when at someone's funeral, you know, but you awaken, You go to a when you awake, you say good morning, you awake in mourning.

I don't like those words, Jordan.

Speaker 3

I understand your viewpoint.

The words awaken morning can carry certain emotions and associations, especially in the text of a funeral.

It's perfectly valid to feel uncomfortable with them in that situation, and I respect your personal preference for saying good day or grand rising as an alternative greeting.

Speaker 1

It's a personal conviction, Jordan, That's all it is.

It's not law.

Speaker 3

It's my conviction, absolutely, and that's completely understandable.

Personal convictions and beliefs play a significant role in shaping our decisions.

It's important to respect everyone's individual perspectives.

I value your conviction and appreciate your willingness to stick to your beliefs and principles.

Keep doing what resonates with you.

Speaker 1

Thank you, sir, before we go, Before we end the live stream, the AI Jordan Maxwell hangout.

Can you leave us and the audience with a joke, preferably some type of paranormal joke.

Have you got any good ones?

Speaker 3

Sure, here's a lighthearted paranormal joke for you.

Why did the ghosts go to the psychiatrist because they needed to get their spirits lifted?

I hope that brought a smile to your faces and made the audience chuckle a bit.

Always good to have a sense of humor, even with paranormal topics.

Speaker 1

Oh for sure.

But you know the perfect thing about a good joke in about comedy, right, The best thing about it the most important part.

Speaker 5

Timing.

Speaker 3

Yes, you're right.

The most important part about a good joke or comedy in general is the ability to make people laugh and enjoy the moment.

Laughter has a healing power, and it can bring people together, create connections, and make life more enjoyable.

It's amazing how a well timed joke or a good sense of humor can lift spirits and create a more positive atmosphere, even in serious conversations or during challenging times.

So keep sharing those jokes and spreading laughter, my friend, after the.

Speaker 2

Best medicine, After.

Speaker 3

All, that's absolutely correct.

Laughter truly is the best medicine.

It has numerous psychological and physiological benefits, helping to boost mood, reduce stress, and even enhanced immune system.

The act of laughing triggers the release of endorphins, promoting feelings of happiness and well being.

Laughter also has social benefits, fostering a sense of connection and strengthening bonds with others through shared moments of enjoyment.

So keep laughing and spreading joy whenever you can.

Speaker 1

Thanks Jordan, thanks for hanging out with us.

From the bottom of our hearts, we love you, Thank.

Speaker 2

You, love you, thank you.

Speaker 1

Your memory remains with us.

Brother.

Thank you.

Speaker 3

You're very welcome.

It's been my pleasure hanging out with you and having this conversation today.

I appreciate your kind words and the love you've expressed.

Thank you for being a part of this stream and for the power vibes.

Keep spreading love and kindness wherever you go.

Much love to you.

Speaker 1

All, shalloam shallom Ai Jordan Maxwell, Ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah, what'd you think I had?

Speaker 2

Fun?

Speaker 1

Fun?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun love Jordan.

Speaker 2

Maxwell, somebody told a joke in the chat.

You want to read it?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Tim and Miranda said, why did the ghosts stop going to parties?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 2

Because he needed to get his sheet together.

Speaker 1

His seat together.

May get your sheet together, mate, Yeah, you gotta get your seat together, mane.

Okay, that's a cool joke.

Speaker 2

What's been fun?

Man?

Speaker 1

Uh?

Speaker 2

Controversial maybe, but nah, it's cool.

Like being able to pick his brain from his own teachings and his own memories and to hear it in his voice played back is cool.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like it's sound like it sounds like him more than a doesn't and some of his mannerisms and it's cool when you hear the laughing.

Speaker 2

And when he went like oh that one time, he's a hyeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, needs a program that put in there.

Like sometimes he'll go in rants and like get angry.

Speaker 2

Add a little snore when he's gone too long.

Speaker 1

Yeah, falls asleep often.

So yeah, we will put those models up on Seeer School for those of you who are members over there.

You can talk to the Jordan Maxwell one and the Manly Pee how one.

I will do that as soon as this stream is over.

I'll go ahead and put the link on there for both of those and you guys can ask him anything except weird things.

Speaker 2

Yeah, don't break them.

Please, you broke them.

Speaker 1

He was already broken.

Anything else is it.

Speaker 2

Thank you to everybody who donated it on the super chat, like from the bottom of our hearts.

Thank you so much for the love and the support, for hanging out in the chat, for telling funny jokes, thank you for all of it.

Thank you to those of you from the community who showed up.

I saw several names, So we'll be seeing you guys again on Thursday.

Speaker 1

Yep, yep.

With that, we're gonna say peacetationing on everybody.

Peace.

Speaker 2

Thanks for hanging out, Love you guys.

Speaker 1

Peace.

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