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But thank you all for being here.
And yeah, it was a very important point that he made that I want to remake is that evolution is not the subject that we should be looking at creationism.
I don't have any problem with creationism at all.
I think there's a lot of legitimacy to creationism.
But in relation to how we humans got here on the Earth, I think the subject is intervention rather than evolution, because I'm totally convinced for myself that we today are someone else's creation.
Someone created us, and whoever created us, they're watching us now, and there very well might be evil entities also who are watching us and trying to miss lead the whole creation of mankind.
So it's a very interesting subject.
But excuse me, but Christians have talked about God creating man me.
But many years ago I talked with one of the leading rabbis in America.
This is back in the sixties, and he helped me to understand a lot of things about what the Book of Genesis was saying.
And it became obvious to me that generally speaking, nothing in the Book of Genesis that we Christians and the Christian civilization have understood about Genesis was true none of it, because it's an encoded message.
There's a lot of encoded stuff that the Rabbis know, but they're not telling us, telling the Jews either.
But there's a lot of interesting stuff in Genesis.
So let's get on with it because it'll be self explanatory.
So I call this God did not create Mad.
And of course we're going to talk about the Bible, and incidentally, that's where I'm going to from now on.
I'm more interested now in the cosmic implications of where we are in life and who we are and where we're going.
I'm not interested in politics.
I'm not interested in in the mundane world that we live in.
I'm very concerned about the spiritual implications of where we are as humans and what is God?
And what is the cosmic implications of where we are in history.
There are some very serious things coming down on the earth, and we need to wake up and find out.
Has nothing to do with politics.
It has to do with something going on out there.
And that's what the knights templates said as above, so below, whatever was happening to us down here is because something is happening in the heavens.
And I've always been interested in theology.
But now I'm concentrating on nothing but theology now.
So anyway, it was gonna be dealing with the Bible, both the Old and New Testament, and of course Genesis.
In the first chapter of Genesis is in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Well, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
But you need to understand that the Bible reference works goes on to say the beginning that God created the heavens and the earth means the beginning of the heavens and the earth, which are now because nobody knows when the universe was created, but the heavens and the earth that we live on now.
This is a story in the Bible of the times which we are living, you know, modern day man, and the heavens and the earth in which we are living in now.
So when you want to talk about God creating the universe, when nobody knows anything about that, we don't know how far back that goes.
So the first point I wanted to make is that when we talk about in the beginning God, well, the first things first, God, what are you talking about when you say God?
Well, in Hebrew, the word God is l e l L and Hebrew is God.
But that's not the word that is used in Genesis one one.
That's not e l.
So we need to define terms.
What does the word God meet in the old Original Old Testament Hebrew language for God and the in the Genesis one one in the beginning, God created heavens and the earth.
No, it's not God.
E L is God, but the actual word in Genus is one one in the original Hebrew is l Lohim.
L Lahim is basically like putting an s on the end of an English word.
Where you have car and then you add an ass, it becomes cars more than one.
Well, putting lahim on the end of L means in the plural more than one.
So the correct translation should be in the beginning, L Lohim created the heavens in the earth.
And this is coming from the O JB Bible, which is the original Jewish Bible, and which the Hebrew says in the beginning, L Lohim created the heavens in the earth.
Well, of course God in Hebrew and genuis one one is Elhim.
Here's the important point about all of this is that God, the Hebrew word Elohim in genus is one.
One is a plural meaning more than one.
So we're seen from different religious literature scripture studies.
Outlines says God Elohim is top of the page says the word Elohim is a plural word and Hebrew plural form of a noun is an i am ot.
Elohim is a plural form of eloa.
On the bottom, it says it is interesting to note that even Olohim is plural, the Hebrew dictionary still translates that God instead of gods.
And that's because of the influence of the Christian world on Judaism during the Middle Ages.
The Church decided what the Bible is going to say and what it is not going to say, and any Jews that get in the way will be you know, they will be done away with quickly.
So the Church kind of change things around to fit the new dispensation in the new Christian movement, and so they just call it God in the beginning God creative.
No, it's Elohim, God's more than one.
From other dictionaries and biblical dictionaries, we see eloheim the basic form God.
God's is the plural form of l as i said Unger's dictionary the plural form of Elohim.
So one of the bottom line on all of this is it says, look up the word God in the concordance, and under the heading you will find a list of all the verses where you can find the word God in the King James version, and notice that the verse begins with Genesis one one, God made the heavens on the earth.
But to the right of the verse and number four thirty of that word Elohim.
Turned to the Hebrew and Chaldy dictionary in the back of the concordance, look up the number four thirty and you will find that the word Eloheim as used in Genesis one one one finds Elohim.
And on the bottom it says, you can now read Elohim in Genesis one one by reading the text like this.
In the beginning, Elohim made the heavens in the earth.
Strong's definition of Elohim, as you will see as a plural now, and it goes on to talk about this divine counsel of beings, even the very sons of God.
Bene Elohim was an uncomfortable one for the ancient Jews.
After the Babylonian captivity because it directly shows Thepolotheism which was later shunned even stamped out.
What changes in the scriptures to erase any lingering traces through these world though they are not always successfully destroyed.
This is clearly seen in the Morgensterens analysis as he tries to downplay the significance of Elohim being plural with a rather weak contention Psalms in the Book of Psalms twenty nine and eighty nine were where we read Bene Elohim is actually an artificial double plural formation of a singular ben L.
Morgenstein admits that this attempt to making making the plural into a singular was doing the post extyle Jewish theological thought because they felt The Jews felt the need to reduce as much as possible the extreme polytheism of the original benet L.
What this is basically saying is that the beginning of the Jewish faith understood that there were many gods and so and so, but they tried to change it when Christianity was coming in change it into one God.
Can't do that.
The word is Elohim.
It means plural.
Period.
So here's another quote, and God created man in his own image.
But the Hebrew word Elohim is a plural form, so h reference or condction.
Also see God septuagen Alohim is a common name for God.
It is a plural form meaning more than one.
Here in the actual Hebrew translation in an Old Testament Hebrew Bible, where it says Elohim said we shall make man uh.
And now what is we?
You know?
And here God says we are we shall make man in our image and our likeness.
Now remember Moses and the ten commandments.
Moses with the ten commandments, what was the first commandment?
I'm the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt or the house of bondage.
And you shall have no other gods before me.
Nowhere in the Bible does God see there are no other gods.
He just lived in morning gods before me.
That's like I would say to my girlfriend.
You know, there's a lot of men out there, but I don't want to see anyone before me.
Right, So there's a lot of mouth there, but you just remember.
So this is why the you and the I think it's Exodus twenty, no Genesis twenty, where it talks about Nos Exodus twenty, where it has the Ten Commandments, that says thou shalt have no other gods before me, doesn't say there are no other gods.
And here's the way.
It says, in different translations, same thing, no other gods before me.
There shall be no other gods.
And even in the OJV, the original Jewish Bible says there shall be no El Lohim in my presence.
So let's see Diuteronomy eleven says, take heed to yourselves, that you that your heart not be deceived.
You turn aside and serve other gods and worship them.
So the Bible, even the Old Testament, admits that there are other gods.
It just God doesn't.
But Yahweh did not want the Hebrews to worship any other God but him, But there are plenty of gods.
First, you need to know that the people we call the ancient Hebrews were not actually Hebrews as such, what we call today the Hebrews were in fact Phoenicians and Canaanites.
And so the people we call Hebrews today speak a language which is the Phoenician language.
But since Hebrews speak it, we call that Hebrew.
It's like saying that here in America we speak the American language.
No, we don't speak American, we speak English.
We are Americans, but we speak English.
Well.
The same kind of idea as true with the calling saying that the Hebrews today speak speak a language called Hebrew.
No they do not.
The language is called the Phoenician Canaanite language, but the Hebrews speak it.
That's very important.
Remember.
So here's an article in a Jewish publication and the Judaism, and it says, it is the faith that the people of Judah is the development of the faith of the Semitic people, well known as Hebrews or Israelites.
It is recognized that the first religious tradition noted for its monotheism, But Hebrew tradition did not begin as monotheism.
So we have been told for many years that the Jewish religion and the Jewish people were the first monotheistic people in history at first.
In monotheistic simply means a worshipper of one God.
I think I've even got that here.
The Hebrew people, we are told, were the worshippers of one God, and that's mono theistic.
In point of fact.
No, there has never been in the whole history of the Hebrew people a monotheistic religion.
They were never monotheistic.
They're not monotheistic now and never will be.
The word correctly is he know.
Look in the dictionary and look up the word he know h e and theistic.
He know theistic is what the Hebrews are today.
The Jewish religion is a he know theistic religion.
He know Theistic simply means the worship of one God without denying the existence of other gods, or the belief in one God without denying the existence of others.
He know Theistic simply means picking one god from a group.
So it's like having twenty five different gods.
And the Hebrews picked Yahweh, and so they picked him, and so they made a contract with their God to be his people and he would be their God.
So, in a matter of speaking, we could say the Hebrews were worshippers of one God.
But it's not saying that there's only one god in the universe.
No, No, there's many gods.
But they made a contract with that particular God.
So they are worshippers of one God.
And so that concept of having many gods in picking one is called he Know Theism, So that's the name of that too.
And there's a lot of articles written about he Know Theism.
I'm not gonna read a lot of this.
I was going to, but we don't have a whole lot of times I won it says, from he Know Theism to Monotheism, he says carefully, careful readers have often noticed a gradual development of serving one God among many he Know Theism to the eventual claim that there is only one God monotheism.
So today Christians believe that the Jews are the worshippers of one God.
No, go back into your homework, as never has been and never will be.
The ancient Hebrews were worshippers of one particular God out of a group.
And so it says Yahweh is not Elohim.
Rather he is a part of the Lohim.
So saying God is not the Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews is not the almighty God.
He is not all the gods.
He is rather one of the gods English of Hosts.
They completely ignore the construct of Yahweh Alohim and translated as Jahweh God.
And this I hear all the time from Jews and Christians.
Well, the Bible says there's only one God.
No, it does not.
The very word geness is one.
One is Elohim, many gods the Hebrews of the Hebrew of this verse literally reads, anyone sacrifices and too, Elohim will be destroyed unless it is to Yahweh himself.
This is a very clear he know theistic view of Yahweh.
While Yahweh is a part of the Alohim, he's a part of the gods.
He is the only one that the Israelites are commanded to sacrifice to and not to any other of the gods.
And again you go back to the original Hebrew Bible, it says that Genesis is one.
One says God, Elohim, we shall create man we So he knows theism is the base for Judaism.
So now you pick up and so now you understand it is said that the Jews worship one God.
Know there are many gods, they just pick one from the group.
In the Book of Psalms, the Book of Psalms eighty two to one, the scripture says God or Yahweh in this case, Yeahwegh Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews, stands in the congregation of the Mighty.
He judgeth among the gods.
So he's a part of a whole group of gods, and he judges his people among all the other gods.
So let's see how other verses, Bible verses say this.
The CEB Bible says, God takes his stand in the Divine Council.
The correct Jewish Bible says, an Elohim God stands in the Divine assembly.
Where there there with the Elohim, he judges another one the ESV version of the Bible, God has taken his place in the Divine Council, in the midst of the gods, is placed in the Divine council.
He presides in the heavenly Council and the assembly of the gods.
So you know, the Bible is filled with these quotes.
Where the where Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews is one of the many gods who rules.
Where in the group of gods.
So that in the Old Testament.
But even that's in the Old Testament.
But even the Apostle Paul and the Christian New Testament says, in the buck of First Corinthians.
He says, for though there be that that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as there are as there be God's many and Lord's many.
So even the apostle Paul is saying, yeah, there's a lot of gods and lords, you know, so you need to understand which one you're worshiping.
They amplify a Bible says, indeed, there are many of them talking about the gods.
So to recap, the ancient Hebrews were not monotheistic, but they were worshiping one God.
They were he know, theistic, making it meaning that they pick one from a bunch of gods.
And as we've said, even the Christian apostle Paul said the same thing, that there are many gods and many lords.
Now let's go back to Genesis one twenty six where God is creating man, because now it's actually the gods are creating man.
So here in Genesis one twenty six, and it says, and God said, Elohim, the gods, God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness.
What's us at our let God?
God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness.
Let's see how other Bibles say it.
The Good News Bible says, and God said, and now we will make human beings.
They will be like us and resemble us.
New Living Translation of the Bible says, then God said, let us make human beings in our image to be like us.
The Common English Bible says, then God said, let us make humanity in our image to resemble us.
The Complete Jewish Bible says, and then God said, let us make human kime in our image and in the likeness of ourselves.
The contemporary English version of the Bible says, now we will make humans, and they will be like us.
The easy to read version says, and God said, now let us make humans who will be like us.
So in Genesis and even in Genesis three twenty two again makes the same kind of claiming.
It says in the Lord God, God or Gods said, the whole man has become as one of us.
He's become too smart.
We made him too clever and too smart.
He's become like one of us now.
And so in the Holy Bible, the New Life version says, let us make man like us.
And here's the point.
We now know that God is plural, more than one.
So the gods have said, let us make man.
No, that is a mistranslation.
It was mistranslated.
Is not like.
It is not saying let us make man.
God did not make man, as you will see.
The word in Hebrew for man is ish or issi I s h is are ish in Hebrew as man.
But the Bible expressly says that the Gods made a d M, not ish.
So from a Hebrew dictionary it says man is ish.
Here's another one.
According to this, the Hebrew word for woman is isha and comes from the Hebrew word for man ish.
So if the Bible says God made man, it will say God made ish.
Interesting to word for man.
Woman in the Hebrew is identical man.
It is pronounced ish.
But the Bible doesn't say God created ish.
It says in Hebrew, we shall make a d M, which is translated into our English human in the image of us.
So God did not make ish.
He made a d LM and Hebrew ad M.
And the Christian Church added another aid during the elect the twelve thirteenth century.
They added an eight in there.
So I'll make it adam.
No, it's not adam ad M three Hebrew letters, which means something esthetically to the Jews, it's a hidden code ADM, but it is not ish is a So God didn't make ish.
He made ADM.
Talked to the rabbis about what ADM really means in Hebrew.
So, like so many other humans, do we even ADM, which is Adam had offspring, had male offspring, the Bible says.
And look what the Bible says that describes when Adam had an offspring, he said, and Adam lived one hundred and thirty years and begat a son and his own likeness after his image, just like the gods created us and their own image and likeness.
So it says Adam had a son, and he had a son that was in his likeness and own image.
Well, of course, if you have a son, he's going to look human.
He's going to be like a human, not gonna look like some entity from an outer space.
He's gonna look human.
So he's going to be made in your image and likeness.
And so Adam had his son.
He looked at his own image and likeness, which is the same thing the Bible says about the gods who created us.
They made us to look like themselves and their image and likeness.
So there are many examples in the Bible that show that the gods looked like us, and or actually we look like them.
They were here before we are.
So I'm going somewhere with this when I'm laying the foundation for it.
A classic example that's found in the story of Abraham meeting three visitors that came to visit him.
In the Book of Genesis eighteen chapter there's a story about Abraham having three visitors, three men that came to visit him, and it says that Abraham was filled with fear and bowed down, and it says now here it is in eighteen one and the Lord.
And you'll notice that the word Lord is capitalized.
When the Lord is capitalized, it means it is the Creator, Yahweh, one of the Alohim.
But Yahweh, the Lord who created, said appeared to him, and it says, and he lifted this is Abraham.
And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked.
There were three men stood by him.
And when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent and bowed himself to the ground.
These three men walked up, but one of them was the Lord, the Creator, Yahweh, and so it goes on to say that the Lord appeared unto Abraham and three men.
So it keeps talking about the three men, and then Abraham asked the three men to please stay for dinner, which they agreed to do.
And so it said that Sarah went out and fixed dinner for them, and they sat under the tree and had dinner.
And then after dinner the three men, two of them got up, he says, after the eating, two of the three men and got up to be on their way, while the third man stayed a bit longer to talk with Abraham.
And so the men rose up.
These are the two men that rose up out to dinner, and they were looking towards Sodom, because they were going to Sodom.
So, okay, now we see the two men got up after eating dinner, and Abraham walked with them a bit on their way to the city of Sodom.
And it says in chapter nineteen, and there came two angels to Sodom that evening, and Lot set in the gates of Sodom, and Lot, seeing them, rose up, and to meet them, he bowed himself just like Abraham.
Lot bowed himself down with his face to the ground, and he said, behold my lord's lower case, and turn in.
I prayed to your servant's house.
So the point I'm making here is that in the book of Genesis eighteen, three men came walking up into the camp, and they and Abraham and Sarah made dinner for them, and they sat under the tree had dinner with Abraham and his wife.
Then two of the men got up and they were going on to their business, and they were going on to Sodom.
And but then the next chapter it says those two men are now called two angels that went into Sodom.
Well, that's what the words back in Jedesys eight team was the Elohim.
They were angels, they were gods.
And there were three of them that popped up in front of Abraham, and one of them stayed.
And so the men the men said this, and the men said that.
Well, we go on and read in Genesis is nineteen about what the men did.
But later on down here and verse fifteen that talks about the angels again.
So the Bible and then jenas Is eighteen and nineteen is into using into playing angels with men.
So well, that's what the Bible says, God bade us in his image of likeness.
Obviously, the God must look like us, or we looked like him.
So the point is, according to the Bible, the word God is Alohim, which means the gods, and it's plural meaning more than one.
And they made us in their image and likeness, so we look like them.
So that's why your male offspring looks human like you do.
Okay, And here's him bowing down to the three men.
Then we find out, actually upon deeper research, that three men were actually three angels.
So this is why in the Christian New Testament, the Apostle Paul says.
Then this is what the Apostle Paul and Christianity says about this subject.
He says, but let brotherly love continue, be not forgetful to it, be not forgetful to entertain strangers for some, For thereby some have entertained angels unaware, saying that when you meet someone, being hospitable, because you might be talking to an angel because they look like you or you look like them.
And so here's another Bible Gntiq says, remember to welcome strangers into your home.
There was some who did that and welcomed angels without knowing it.
Another translation NLT translation said, don't forget to show hospitality to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it.
So the point I'm making is that angels and gods look like us.
We are made in their image and likeness, and that is the bottom line on what I'm trying to get across to you.
So now it's here that I want to clarify the idea that God is the gods, and they did not make man ish.
They made a d M, not ish again, and the old ancient Hebrew it says we we shall make ish no a d M, which is loosely transmitted hugh Man and the image of us.
So the gods made a d M, and ADM becomes add them Adam, and the Adam looks like the God that created him.
So let's recap very quickly.
God is Hebrew plural, which is actually he knows theism the worship of many gods, the plural meaning more than one.
There it is Alohim, we shall make man, And it goes on and back.
Here it says we shall make a d M, not ish other gods.
We're told not to worship other gods and worship them.
Indeed, there are many of them.
There are many gods.
God say, let us make man in our image.
So therefore the conclusion is God is the gods, and the gods made a d m and not ish.
Now the three men with Abraham turned out to be angels.
Now let's move on to the next point.
Now, for that we go to Genesis ninety one, after the flood of no Day.
In the Bible, Genesis nine one says, this is after the flood of Noah's day, when everyone's supposedly you have been killed in the flood.
And then God said to Noah and his sons, He said to them, be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth.
I remember asking the rabbis many many years ago, is this a correct translation from the old Hebrew?
Be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth.
The question I have for the rabbi was, is this word replenish correctly translated?
And he said, yes, it is.
Well.
Ree means do it again, So to replenish means to do it again.
Well, obviously, if the earth have many people, and God destroyed all the people in a flood, and if you want people on the earth.
You're going to have to replenish the earth.
Makes sense.
So in Genesis nine one, replenish the earth, he's telling Noah and his sons.
Okay, red as I said, means do it again.
And here is in the Old Jewish Bible, says Elohim says, be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the earth is a Hebrew word meaning do it again.
But what about genuis one one?
And here's the point.
Genesis is one one when God is making a d M and his wife.
When God is making the first pair.
Here it is in Genesis one where God is creating a d M or Adam and his wife Eve, it says, And so God created man.
The God's created man in his own image, and the image of God created he them male and female.
And God blessed Adam, Adam and his wife.
God blessed them, and God said into them, be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the earth.
So here God is saying to Adam and Eve, the first couple supposedly to replenish the earth, do it again.
So what are you talking about.
I thought that God created Adiman, he was the first couple.
No, No, God said replenish hearth do it again.
So why would the gods tell Adm and his wife to multiply and replenish the earth.
It means because he wanted them to do it again.
And the reason why is because if you go to Genesis one one, the answer to why Adam and he was to replenish the earth.
Genesis one two is a very important scripture.
In the beginning, the gods created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form and void.
That is an incorrect English translation of the Hebrew words tohuvavahu as an incorrect translation.
Uh, the earth was without form and void.
Think about it.
God creates the earth and it has no form and is void.
I mean, what does that all mean?
It's without form and void.
Well, it's a mistranslation.
That's not what it says.
So when we read the earth was without form and void, it's a mistranslation of the original Hebrew words tohu vavoho.
And the earth was in the Old Jewish Bible and the earth was tohuvavohu tohuvaboho is actually translated correctly.
And the earth became a waste in a desolation, not form without form, and void.
No, the earth tohuvaboho means became a waste in a desolation.
So what is the Bible actually saying in the original Hebrew is that the earth became a waste in the beginning, God created heavens of the earth.
But Hebrew vib was the earth was became a waste in a desolation.
This is in the Hebrew.
The order of words in a sentence is all also important.
When the verb is in the original text and follows the subject in the sentence, it indicates a change of tents and should be translated as became or had become.
It is a change of something existing from what it had been, since the earth had already been created in Genus has one one.
The verb higher being and the original detext follows the subject.
Thus indicates a change that occurred with the earth at its original creation, since a change in the Earth had already taken place in the past.
The verb high translate translated incorrectly translated was should have been translated correctly as became a waste and a desolation.
This is very important.
Here's a good book Bible translation that at least set it right.
And the earth became a waste.
And here's a translation from the Bible says the earth was without form and void.
No, was as became and without form.
No, the word is tohuvabo, who a waste.
So what I'm saying to you is that what the Bible is saying in Genesis one two is that the earth became a terrible waste and a terrible place.
It wasn't created without form and void.
The word is tohuvavo who Okay, so not created toed but became the earth became a waste in the desolation.
Now that's important because the Hebrew words tohuvavo who are only found twice in the Bible Genesis one two, Tohuvabo, who means became a waste in the desolation.
Well, there's a second place, Tohuvavo, who is used and is in the Book of Jeremiah.
And in Jeremiah the fourth chapter, the Bible says Jeremiah said, I was given a vision by God.
The prophet.
Jeremiah said, I was given a vision by God.
And in division he said, I beheld the earth, and lo, it was without form and void.
No, Jeremiah had a vision from God, and in division he saw the earth became a waste in a desolation.
And he then goes on to say, in twenty five, and I beheld, and there was no man.
There was no Issh, and for sure there was no Adddam.
So he was seeing the earth, and it became a waste in the desolation, and there was no man.
But then he goes on to say in twenty six, and I beheld, and a fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down, and the whole land became desolate.
What do you mean, all the cities There was no man.
There was no Addam, no ish, but there were big cities, and then all of a sudden those cities became a way the desolation.
Here's another quote said the earth was without former void, and then it says without former void.
No.
Jeremiah clearly indicates the Earth had undergone a cataclysmic change as a result of divine judgment.
The face of the earth bears witness everywhere the marks of such a catastrophic thing happening on the earth.
So here's another quote bears CHIPA one two, which is actually Genus is one two, and the earth was tohu Vabohu can be taken as a hint that the Bible at Taurus stands.
It starts its account after the destruction of the world a prehistoric man.
And that is the point I'm trying to make here today, is that when the Bible talks about the creation of a d m Adam, it's not talking about ish and it's not talking about man.
It's talking about a particular kind of man that has made in the image and the likeness of the Alohim.
Because whatever man was that was already here for millions of years, something happened where outside entities came here.
They were called the Alohem the gods.
Well, what were the gods?
I don't know.
But if you ask a child where is God?
And the children will say, God's in heaven.
Where do you believe in angels?
Yes, well, where do angels come from?
They come from Heaven.
Well, I don't know if you know this or not, but anytime a god or an angel comes from Heaven, that's extraterrestrial.
That's not from here.
They're not from Cleveland, They're from Heaven.
Okay, So all the ancient scriptures of the world say that the gods, whoever they are.
They came down here and they saw the indigenous creatures, the ish to man, the creatures we call them hominids in science.
They were hominid creatures.
They weren't quite man, but they kind of walked up right, look something like us.
And then somebody intervened in our natural evolution of hammadid creatures and created a new kind of man, not ish, Adam, that's you.
Somebody created you.
And they didn't just create you out of nothing.
Know, someone intervened in our natural evolution of millions of years and came here and created a new kind of man.
So chance again Genesis one twenty eight.
And God created man in his own image, and he told Adam and Eve to replenish the earth.
Of course, why would the gods tell Adam and his white to multiply and replenish the earth, because re means do it again?
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So again we see that the Genesis one two says that the earth was Tohuvabohu, And this writer in the Hebrew says that's taken as a hint that the Torah or the Bible, starts its biblical account of man after the destruction of prehistoric man.
So, now what we're talking about is Hamidid creatures, these ancient creatures which we have found skeletal remains all over the earth, of creatures which walked upright.
We call them Hamidid creatures or cave man.
I don't care what you call them.
We got all kinds of names for the ancient peoples of the world.
They were called hominids.
And from the hominid creatures we now have a dam a different kind of creature.
So from this hamidid creature to modern day humans.
So we start off with the hominids and we end up today with modern day humans.
Now, so the point I'm making is that we were hominids.
We were ancient, ancient creatures until somebody intervened in our natural evolution and created us.
And the scripture says in the Bible and in all other ancient scriptures say the same thing, that the gods created us in their image and their likeness, and so we look like they who have created us, which means that today they're very well might be people who we consider to be beautiful and important people, politicians and important people who are leading the world, which are in point of fact, not human at all.
They very well might be the Earth and its people on the Earth today very well might be led by higher intelligences who look like us, and we look up to them because they're big shot politicians and big shot world leaders.
Never realizing you are looking at the Onunaki, the ones that the ancient call the ones who created the humans.
They're not human, they just look human.
And there have been a lot of sci fi movies made about that alien nation, and Bill Berg with his television series Taken.
So all I'm saying to you is that you need to go back and think about the idea that the evolution is not the subject.
Intervention is the subject.
And I am totally convinced that we are being led in the world today, all over the Earth by entities that look like us, that look like human, but they are the ones who represent those who created us.
We look like them, and they are misleading us, playing us for fools and getting us to fight their wars, and they're selling our bodies on the New York Stock Exchange, and they've set up a whole system of commerce in the world.
And religions and politics and all the other human trash that we have to deal with every day in life.
Why because they created us and they are our gods.
So I would suggest that you might want to take another look at religion, jud the Christianity, and Islam, and understand these are nothing more than the creation of the gods.
And there's no truth in them anywhere, nothing of any value in those three religions, and a lesson until you can get out from under the manipulation and the exploitation of the human psyche by those who look like us.
We are in serious trouble in this world because the people have given their sovereignty, they've given their lives, they've given the hopes of the future to possibly extraterrestrials who couldn't care less about you.
They created you, and that they look upon us as chattel property.
They own you like trash and like animals.
So I would suggest that what we need to see now in the world is a revolution of minds.
We need a whole spiritual renaissance where the people of the world rise up and say no longer do we buy into your religions, your politics, your commercial system, you're banking none of it.
It's all extraterrestrial influence.
And we don't believe in your gods anymore.
That doesn't mean that there isn't a divine presence in the universe.
That there is no doubt in my mind.
But we are coming to a place now.
I mean the Mayan Calendar is talking about it, but I don't know that that's gonna be of any important importance.
But I do know that the world is entering into a very dark period now where the human race is gonna wake up and find out we've been had by those entities who have come here from somewhere else and made us to look like them, and they are misleading the whole human race using Judaism, Christianity in Islam.
And I want to thank you.
Oh yeah, question answer, yeah, okay, I guess we could take some question to answer.
That doesn't mean I have the answers, huh yeah.
So if you uh, if you got any questions which I can't answer, then you will you can come to the mic if you have any But again I would say I'm I'm not the world's foremost authority on anything, so don't expect any brilliant answers from me.
I have always believed that, I've said this many times.
Always trust the person looking for the truth, don't ever trust the one who's found it.
Speaker 4All right, Jordan, you've shown that in the Old test that many times to use the word elohem.
Is there any ever time to use the word eli representing a single god?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeah, quite a few times, but they were usually that was applied to angels or Jewish high priests.
They were taught they were called the elis, and so sometimes when that word was used, it was talking about angels.
A particular angel or one of the Jewish high priests also had the same title.
And so that's a whole subject.
I mean, you don't even get into the whole subject of the Hebrew language and the word God as opposed to gods, as opposed to the aloheim.
And there's a very important subject which I didn't even touch on here.
Well, I touched a little bit on it, but the subject is the sons of God because in the Hebrew Bible, as also in other different old religious texts.
There is an idea in the Bible.
In the Old Testament Bible, there are many different kinds of entities.
There are spirits, which we call ghosts or spirits.
Then there's disembodied spirits.
Disembodied spirits means that there were spirits which used to have a body, and then their body died and so their spirit went back into the spirit world, which is the spirits of humans who have died, but they are disembodied spirits because they used to have a body.
Well, that's not the same as ghosts or spirit entities in the Bible, because the spirit entities in the Bible were created spirits and they never had a body, as opposed to people.
When they died, their spirit goes out.
So now there's two kinds of spirits, the ones who were always a spirit and then the ones that used to have a body.
And so now we got two kinds of spirits.
Then you have something called the watchers in the Old Testament.
The watchers is a different term for a different kind of spirit entity.
Then you have another term, which is in the most important one is sons of God.
Sons of God are not angels.
Sons of God are the offspring of the mating between the extraterrestrials who came here and the women who were already here, and they had offspring, and the Bible doesn't call them children.
It says that the aliens, the Aloheims, the gods who came here, and after they created adm Adam, they begin to see that what they had created was beautiful.
The women were gorgeous, so they started thinking too much about what they have created and started taking on the women and pro creating with them.
And it doesn't say what they women gave birth to.
The Bible says and the women gave birth to children, No, it doesn't say that.
In the Hebrews, it just says that the women gave birth period, and it doesn't say what they gave birth to.
Well, if these were extraterrestrials from another world who looked like us, and they cross breed with the human creatures that they had created, and those creatures were giving birth to something that was extraterrestrial and human, and Inhamedid it was.
Now that's why today I think that we are half human, half man, and half spirit, because there's half and the apostle Paul says that there's a war going on in the flesh of mankind between the spirit and the flesh.
Why because the flesh represents the ish, the creatures that were already here, as opposed to when the angels came here or the spirits or whoever they are, came here and recreated us.
Now there's half of us is from them, the anarchy, and the other half is from the ish, the creatures that were already here.
Well, that's true because all humans.
Half of us are just animals, but the other half creates beautiful music and lasers and goes to the moon and has beautiful art and could do wonderful and great things and be very spiritual.
At the same time, you get one can go out and kill somebody, because there's there's the human part of us.
So there's two There's there's two things going on inside of us, the war between the the what the extraterrestrials put into us and the normal animalistic thing that we were before they got here.
So that's what I'm saying, the human race is today.
We are an intervention in our natural evolution.
Strange stuff.
Speaker 5Thank you.
Speaker 6You talk about being aware of religion or kind of being wary of religion.
But this information is in the Bible.
How do you how do you?
Speaker 1It's because the Bible is not the work of a holy priesthood writing holy scriptures.
The Bible is the work of people who have studied all the ancient cults of the world, all the ancient religions of the world, the ancient hidden mysteries of the world.
And when you begin to look at the actual history of the Old Testament and the history of the ancient Hebrews, you will find there was no ancient history of the Hebrews.
That the Old Testament most likely was put together by some very very highly intelligent priests and writers, probably doing i would say, seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth century AD.
I do not believe that Judaism as a BC religion.
I don't think there was an ancient Jerusalem and ancient Judaism.
I believe that the Bible as we know it, the Old Testament, Bible, the Jewish Old Testament, probably has something to do with the Hanseiotic League, a German league of highly intelligent priests, clergyman, commercial ventures, bankers.
It's called the Hanseiotic League.
And out of the Hanseiotic League, and Europe began a whole new religious concept called Judaism, and we began to see a whole new religion being developed.
But that's in the AD.
As far as I'm concerned, looking at all the reference works of the world, there was no BC Judaas, there was no ancient Jerusalem, there was no ancient Hebrew people, none of it ever existed.
But I'm thinking that whoever these wise men were that put together this Bible and wrote it in such a way as the Dcode secret things into it, anyone who studied the Bible knows that almost ninety nine percent of everything is in the Old Testament was already in existence in ancient cultures, the Old Sumerians, the Babylonians, the Venetian Canaanites, the Assyrians, especially the Medo Persians.
But all of these ancient stories that were and I believe these ancient people with their ancient stories, were not writing for Hollywood.
They're just telling you what they saw.
They're just telling you.
The Samerians were just telling what they were experiencing.
They were not writing for television.
And so the people who wrote the Old Testament took all of those ancient stories and put them together and started getting a consensus of what the ancient people was saying and what was really going on, and then they translated it into a new book for us called the Bible.
So I have the highest of respect for the Bible and what's in it, because I understand it didn't come from Yahweh and some wonderful God.
Know.
It's a collection of all the ancient wisdom of the world that these people, you know, five to seven hundred years ago, were very intelligent people, and they were getting a consensus of all the ancient writings of the world from the Egyptians, the ancient Hindus and put together a whole new story based on all of that ancient stuff.
So that's why I have the highest of respect for the Bible, because that's an incredible collection of ancient wisdom telling you something.
But like the Rabbis have told me, it's all encoded.
It's encoded, it's not on the surface.
You need to know what the rabbis were really saying and what these people were really saying, not what you thought they were saying.
Speaker 6So religion is basically using that as a the the good information, and then distorting it in order to control.
Speaker 1That's right to keep control.
But there are rabbis who and I've sat with some very really interesting rabbis who who tell me?
Because I confronted them with a lot of this.
They said, well, you're right, And I said, no, I want to know.
Was Judaism actually a b C religion?
They said, well, I mean, it's just a story.
It's just a story.
I said, I know, it's just a story, but I'm asking you.
Was there any legitimate history in it?
No, there wasn't.
And now there is a There are the top archaeologists and a top palaeontologists in Egypt.
One is named Finkelstein, and I the other one I can't remember his name.
They have come out with a book about two years ago.
They were the top professors in Israel, and they wrote a book together called Unearthing the Bible, in which they said, and they are the best of the best in Israel.
And they said, none of the stories in the Old Testament or history, none of them.
There was no Moses, and there was no crossing the Red Sea, and there was no Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
All of these stories were stories of the ancient world that were remolded into a new story.
For a new time and a new people.
But all of it's based on the ancient stuff.
So that means that what you're reading is not necessarily nonsense and crap.
No, it's based on ancient, real knowledge that the ancient people's had.
But it's a new story for a new time.
That's why the Bible's called the greatest story ever told.
It's a story know and so if you understand it's a story and it's based on older, more ancient writings.
I have the highest admiration for the Bible because it's a great collection.
And at this point I'd like to also say I have an all encompassing fear and and appreciation for God.
I have no problem with the concept of a divine presence in the universe that is overshadowing all life.
Uh, there is the differences of God.
Are you talking about aliens who came here who are very clever and created you, or are you talking about a higher power in the universe.
It's even over them.
Well, from all I've gathered from what people have said in books and lectures, I've heard that they have been abducted by these aliens who look like us, who look like Nordic's Well, you're talking about people who look human, but they were extraterrestrial.
Well, Bible says the same thing.
But I have the highest of admiration for the idea, the concept of a higher power in the universe that men have called God.
I don't have any problem with that, that idea at all.
It's these silly religions which are corporations and businesses and making billions of dollars off of poor people's ignorance.
That's what I have a problem with God.
I don't have any problem with God.
I don't mess with that.
I don't even think I'd be alive today if it wasn't for God.
Speaker 3So Hi, which Ananaki?
Do you think behind the Illuminati?
Is it like Enlil or Marduk and what's happened to Enki and Nima Uh?
Speaker 1I'm not really sure about any of that.
I was a very close friends with Zachariah Sitchen, and I was in business with him, and we talked about this stuff quite a bit.
I said Zacharia's session to five countries, and I helped get his books published, and he and I were very close friends for a long time.
We were in business together, and I asked.
I've asked him a lot of these questions.
He knew the answers to them, but he would never give me any straight answer.
So I would say that I'm not sure about this subject all.
The only thing I am sure about is that we're not talking about one glorious god who created Adam and Eve.
We're talking about extraterrestrials who look like us.
And of that there is no doubt in my mind about because the people who are running this planet have already proven to They've proven over and over again they don't care about the human race.
They don't care about human life.
Why because they're not human.
They're not like us, They're not human.
They don't care they have to kill millions of children in another country.
They just don't care because they're you know, they created us.
So you know, we are like chattel.
I mean a law, humans are called chattel property, meaning we're cattle.
And so naturally of farmer or rancher will take care of his cattle.
Why because he can sell them and you can have hamburgers, and so you have to take care of your cattle, and so you give them a place to live and water to drink.
And food and take care of them and give them entertainment.
That doesn't mean you love them, No, it means you're gonna feed off of them, you're gonna sell them at the stock market, You're gonna use them for your political purposes.
So I don't think the people who are leading the country and leading the world today are human.
I think the demonic that they're pray.
They're evil, and probably the most powerful, evil, demonic and depraved of all is in the US.
I think we're being led by the most evil people in the world.
And again, I don't think they're a human WHI I was reading a book.
Speaker 7I was reading a book on symbols, and it said that religions that use the symbol of the cross and the crown are religions that are.
Speaker 1Run by the illuminati.
Speaker 3Is there any kind of relevance at all to that?
Speaker 5Yeah?
Speaker 1Really, Oh I've been talking about that for years.
Oh really, What I would tell you about that.
She's talking about the religious symbol that's used in Christianity of a cross inside of a crown, the cross in the crown.
Charles Tess Russell used the cross in the crown back in eighteen seventy one, when he started the IBSA, which became known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jehovah's Witnesses was started by an organization back in eighteen seventy one that used the cross in the crown.
All the Protestant Christianity, all the Protestant Christianity uses the cross in the crown, plus some of the facets of the Catholic Church.
You still used across in the crown, but the cross in the crown.
Christians think the cross represents the cross of Christ in the crown that Jesus will wear as king.
Now, the cross in the crown has to do with Masonic order.
It has to do with a very ancient orders coming out of Rome and the days of the Caesars, when the cross in the crown was used as an occult symbol for secret societies that were beginning to come up with this new idea of Christianity.
And so it's a very interesting subject on the cult symbols and how they're being used today.
They don't mean what you think they do, thank you.
Yeah.
You know.
Incidentally, the very word church.
You know, how many people go to church every day and have no idea where the word comes from and what it means Church comes from a from a Scottish word kirk, like Captain Kirk of the good ship enterprise.
You know, that's what religion is, it's an enterprise.
But church is an English word that's based on a Scottish word kirk k e r k r k i r k and kirk is directly trans directly connected to an ancient goddess in the Middle East called Circe or Circe.
She was called Mother Circe or later on in Scotland, mother Kirk, or later on in England Mother Church.
Church is Circe in Scotland, Circe is uh uh Kirk in Scottish becomes Circe in the ancient Middle East, she was a goddess, and she was a goddess in the Greek mythology who was able to hypnotize people and bring them into her home, shut the door and take their minds away from them, and eat them and live off of them.
And so this is what Mother Curse Circe has done other church.
The church takes people in with magic, brings them in locks the door behind, takes their their minds so they can't read, they can't think, and all they know how to do is bowed out to the man with the fishhead, and they and but it's true.
That's what the Pope wears.
It's called the Pope's Miters.
It's the head of a fish, which goes back to the worship of daygone, Day Gone, the fish God of Rome.
So all of this is all ancient stuff coming from somewhere out there, and these people are real serious evil.
Speaker 2Well, you're absolutely right, Thank you so much.
I wanted to ask you what you knew about the report from Iron Mountain that JFK requisitioned in nineteen sixty one with the experts and then that came out.
Yeah, I know, I remember talking about secret societies and relating that to biblical phrases and then bringing in the New World Order and just how they were going to dismantle America, collapse our Constitution and the Bill of Rights and take.
Speaker 1Away Well they're not going to do that.
It's already done.
Speaker 5It's done, right.
Speaker 2But I mean, I'm just wondering what you've it's I know it is, it is.
Speaker 1Yeah, I've talked to too many I've been all around the world and I've talked to too many people very important people that you have no idea in the world that I know that very top of this government that were personal friends of mine, and I've sat and talked with him in private.
Advisers to the President of the United States, top of the top on the line, people that I've been able to meet and became friends with, and they allowed me to talk with him in private.
And I so it's my it's just my subjective opinion, but it's based on the conversation with many, many people over the years that there is no hope to save America or the human race.
I was giving a lot.
I was on a panel in Los Angeles about a year ago and George Norriy was hosting it.
And while we're up there, I saw a man come in with a three piece suit.
He looked government the moment he walked in, and I watched him in the back of the room, and just about the time we were going to end the question and the answer period, he walked over to the other corner of the room.
I watched him walk over to the side so that when we come down off the platform, we're facing him.
And as I came down off the platform, he looked at me and said, you yet come in, you come in.
So I walked over to him and he opened his wallet.
There's a long, oblong wallet, and handed it to me.
He didn't say a word, he just hand me the wallet and I opened it up and it was two badges from government, very impressive organizations in government.
And I'm not going to tell you what, but it's higher than CIA and two badges and two id's and this heavy wallet.
And he handed it to me and I looked at it for a few moments.
I studied it for a few moments and then I looked at him.
I said, very impressive.
He says, reel And he said, I've been sent here.
The government sends me to all kinds of conferences just to listen to see what people know and what they don't know, what they're talking about.
We just wanted to see what's going.
Speaker 2On and taking a sampling of the channel.
Speaker 1And he said, well, I was told particularly to listen to you, and that's why I'm here.
He said, I would you know.
He told me some interesting stuff.
He said, one thing in particular I thought was very significant.
He said, my higher ups have told me that they like what you do, but they don't have any problem what you do.
They see you as a good guy trying to help you, fellow man, so they don't I don't think you're going to have any problem with government.
They know who you are, they know what you're trying to do.
They're just more interested to see who's going to listen to you.
It doesn't interest to see who's who's smart enough to listen to you interesting.
Speaker 2So with all you know and all you've been told, then the educational value of what you're doing is being conceited as.
Speaker 1Being my feeling.
It's just my subjective opinion, but I think that cosmically speaking, I don't think there is any hope for the human race.
Why I didn't say not individuals, I'm not talking about individuals.
I think individuals are being called out from the mass, but I don't think the masses have a chance in hell to get away from what's coming.
And the reason why is because trying to change the human race and educate people today and the kind of where we live in is like trying to empty the Pacific with a cup, because you know, it's a huge tsunami of ignorance and stupidity, self centered, egotistical, know at all pompous, arrogant stupidity of the human race that wants to hear nothing of truth.
All they are interested in is important things that have to do with life, like football, basketball and the movie stars getting married and all that sense.
Oh as long as as long as the human race loves to be deceived by their masters, not realizing their bodies are actually security on the New York Stock Exchange for the banking industry, and the banks are not the powers of this world.
It's the insurance companies behind the banks.
And the reason why the insurance companies are behind the banks is because of the fourteenth Amendment.
And once you understand the fourteenth Amendment is connection to insurance companies.
The insurance companies connection to the banks, And you understand that the government we got now is not the same government we started with in the seventeen seventy six.
It's a privately owned company.
It's a private corporation.
Once you understand how this stuff works in relation to religion, the Catholic Church, the Jewish religion, Islam, and how it's all financially behind the scenes, connected and the whole world is being played for a fool.
So I'm saying it's about time.
I believe it's an idea whose time has come for the whole human race to wake up and find out we've been had and the only real hope is individuals being called out to stand on your own and start doing your own.
I would suggest everyone should talk directly to the Spirit, directly to God.
Don't go through any religion or any man made system.
All you have to do is talk to the Spirit, and the Spirit hears you, and then ask the Spirit.
After you've talked to the spirit and tell it what you want, and tell it what you need, and you're talking to the spirit, then ask the Spirit to show me that you've heard me, give me a sign that you're hearing me, and watch what happens.
Yeah, more question.
Speaker 4I was thinking about that line I guess from the Bible that says what profit a man if he gained the entire world but lose his soul or the kingdom of heaven.
I started out wanting to ask you what you thought of that, even if that concept in your mind exists, but it's gotten a little bit modified because you've drawn the distinction between them and us, those who created us versus us.
Speaker 5We're not them they're not us.
Speaker 4And essentially you've said that those who rule us, who you know, run the show, so to speak, are not really us, aren't fully human, or they represent them.
And I guess one of the things that I was thinking, and I would love to hear your thoughts about what profit a man?
But can they spend our money?
I mean, I'm a little confused because if.
Speaker 1I asked a question again, Well, in other.
Speaker 5Words, obviously the same.
Speaker 4If they're people, we'll call them people that started this, that created us in their image, unless they live forever, they're not around anymore.
Speaker 5So maybe they're just observers from.
Speaker 4Somewhere else and they have intermediaries that are running us for example.
Speaker 1Yeah, very that's what I think.
What the UFOs, my opinion, is a lot of not all of it, but a lot of the UFO activity which is not ours.
And we've got a lot of the UFO stuff ourselves, the humans there.
But if there is anything out that is not of human origins, in which I think there is a lot of, I think it's probably them, and they are then there are probably other entities out in the universe that know about this situation here we've got on this Earth, and they're coming here to see what the story is all about too.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised that there are entities out there who have heard of something going on on this planet called Earth, and they're coming down here to see what these creatures are like.
And they heard that we were created in the image and likeness of the entities, and they're coming down here to watch and see what's going on because there are because they know something else is getting ready to happen.
I think that there's wars going on between extraterrestrials as who owns us and who's gonna do?
You know, who's gonna owns and so I wouldn't be a bit surprised that that's what some of the UFO and alien stuff is.
And again, just help from other places to see us.
Speaker 4And just for the fun of it, because my question really wasn't meant to be flip, but can they spend our money?
Speaker 5Own us?
For what purpose?
Speaker 4In other words, if you own something, or you own a business, or you know you own the product productive capacity of some person, it's it's for purpose.
So when I ask can they spend our money?
I just I'm sort of wondering do you think that it's above the physical realm, like, for example, David, I suggest that it's negative energy.
Speaker 5It is fear, it's what they feed off.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm not sure how to answer that.
Speaker 5Okay, I just thought i'd ask it.
Speaker 1I'm not really sure how to answer that, because I don't think I really understand the question.
Probably go on.
Speaker 5Hello.
Speaker 7In some of the Gnostic texts, you have the notion that the creators plural or hideous, horrifying, you know, monsters from the Abyss.
Just from your reading of the Bible and the various interpret interpretations of I've heard it said that you know Satan.
Shaytan the accuser was perhaps are on our side, and Jahveh, the vengeful oppressor, was in fact Satan, and you can flip it.
I was just wondering what your thoughts.
Speaker 1Well, the Gnostics say that Yahweh, the Hebrew God, is Satan, and that Yahweh is the demiurge, the dark force, Darth Vader.
That's what the Gnostics, the ancient Gnostics taught that Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews, was like Darth Vader, the evil one.
And the Gnostics are very important people and Gnarscissism is a very important religion.
The Christians like to put it down, but the Christians put down anything that has anything to do with reading and studying.
But I think that there's a bigger story here.
The man I like to listen to on this subject, and there's quite a few of them, but is Jay Winder Winer is incredibly brilliant guy and fascinating to listen to.
And also h Lloyd Pie.
Lloyd Pie is extraordinarily good on this subject of how the aliens created us.
Lloyd Pie is that you need to know about Lloyd Pie and Jay Winder.
I think we're got have to go there telling me we're through.
Thank you again for being here.