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Side lead a little bit of pressure on their top ordered backing weeknesses on the tour of South Africa, but a couple of players have enhanced their reputations.

Major injury issues for the black Caps are the franchises they signed with doing enough to help them.

Two new countries admitted to ICY, a majority of Test countries facing bankruptcy or should the game find a solution to ensuring all formats are fostered.

Plenty to talk about, and there's going to be a lot more because cricket is starting to warm up in this part of the world, just in time for you to come home, Jeremy Coney and put your long walleys on.

Well, that's in gaining some sleep.

I'm under the sort of the drag of the leg of the jet.

Actually at the moment was I didn't even I couldn't even watch the last part of That's why i'm a little bit late.

As well.

I've been watching a replay as you have, probably as well of the One Day game last night.

Yeah, I don't know whether Peter Holland had a chance to have look.

He's joined us again from the warmth of the Cavity coast and he might have had a look at the New Zealanday, so I didn't know where to find it.

So I'm once again the moose is somewhat in the dark again.

But that's fine.

It's got plenty of thoughts.

It's on YouTube, and they've got a couple more games to go.

Well.

I mean, I must admit, like you, Jerry, I nodded enough to sleep.

When I knew they were chasing three hundred and fifty and they lost a wicket in the first over without a run on the board, I thought, no way, because they hadn't been playing some very good One day cricket, A little bit too cavalier for my liking.

But once they got round to considering partnerships and the top orders started working for them, they did well.

And Dale Phillips one hundred and forty seven He got out playing a reverse scoop in the third over of the first game, and I thought, hey, that doesn't look too good.

But boy in the land of his birth, Johannesburg born, Dale Phillips really put the South African attack to the sword.

Jerry, He's yeah, I agree.

I had a look at the cards for the first couple of games and it was very clear.

The top order where you know, unable to judge the risks required when the ball was still doing something early on, and the top four is where the bulk of the runs emerge in the ODI format.

Yeah, great horizontal batshot player, isn't he very good?

Cuts and pools, hooks.

And then you can also drive, which is useful because the bowler then can't go short without being attacked perhaps and also when they pitch up, he can drive down the ground number of six as he hit straight back over the bowler's head.

And this innings, yeah, it's it really was a very different innings.

None of us have probably seen a lot of Dale Phillips.

Have you seen much.

Words, Yeah, I've seen a bit of him playing for Otago as such, and he's a bit like brother then you know they come from the same mold and they play cricket the same way, so he does like to go after the bowling.

I don't know whether you've seen him most, but I mean the end result of this trip, as we talked about it beforehand, is the value that they're going to get after about being in these conditions.

They're not picking the number one side every week.

Everybody's getting a turnaround.

So you've got to toss up whether you want to be winning every game or whether you want to develop players.

And I think they're going for the right mix of development, and it's proven I think in the third game when they've got used to the conditions over there.

I think this is a great investment in our talent.

Reflecting on the fact that they've also been to Bangladesh a few months back and some players there got runs in those conditions, it can't be underestimated how important the investment and these two is for the broader New Zealand game and providing the proverbial inverted Karmas pathway.

I think it's invaluable.

To have players playing in different conditions is invaluable.

I also think that especially being in South Africa.

South Africa have really shown us something in the last year eighteen months, haven't they, with the depth that they have as well?

The interesting series just gone in Northern Australia, you know, Darwin and Kens or wherever else.

They're playing some very good players coming out of there, so their eight team was going to be pretty good too.

This is great.

I love it.

They're in England now too, Jerry and Sunny.

Baker didn't have a great start to his career for England against South Africa, did he?

I don't know, but he probably got smashed, you're saying to me.

And there are good players, you know, players like markram I guess he might have got a few last night or the other day, didn't he?

And certainly that one day unit for England was shown how to play and even this lot And to just back up Moose's point, if you looked at all the bowlers that were playing against this New Zealand a team.

Mariki well he played tests against us here when he came over, didn't he.

S Palmler another they're all kind of tall, muscle the ball into the pitch and even taller some of them, cause Sea was there and Pomwami was there, Simolane was there.

All have played T twenty for South Africa, all have played over the eyes and some of them, as I mentioned, just tests as well.

So they were a useful bowling attack.

Good pitch, good pitches.

I think it got better and we got this time to bat.

Second.

The interesting thing was too we went on the commentators that they were hard to listen to, but because they were praising everything that South Afry did mention that I can't see you talking about as one of the fastest bowlers in the world.

Now I don't know, because they didn't have a speed radar, but there goes a guy who's quick.

They do like to muscle the ball into the deck and they seem to be getting a good bounce and that's the way they play in South Africa generally.

Merstle very very much so.

But again exposing our guys and who pretty much have only played against each themselves in New Zealand, which is basically you know, local friendlies, because everyone likes each other these days, un like back of the olden days, whereas you know, all of a sudden the temperatures being turned up a bit, and I think this is just our this is outstanding.

And as I say, and Jury's has pointed out, these aren't Rugs and South Africa at all.

And you know we we tend to get the off cast, don't we, luckily with the recent immigrants.

Thank the Lord for that.

No, no, this is great.

Yeah.

Well the final judgment I guess for this too will be after they've played the two four day games, because when they went to Bangladesh they struggled early on, they didn't seem to get the right mix.

But then they put on a performance with the first class tour and they were a huge success.

And you've got to remember last night they were out Nick Kelly and his tour is over, apparently coming home with an injured shoulder in the field.

I was just impressed that they got out of you know, they had been battered around Benoni Willoemore Park for two games, didn't even look like being in the hunt and here they are winning the game.

Duckworth lewis.

Of course it got dark a little bit too early.

Well, and you know why did that happen?

Was I mean, I mean, why didn't South Africa carry on a bowl a couple of other spin bowlers okay, not their best spin ball.

Why aren't you finished the game?

You could almost look ridiculous to me.

Yeah, but the reaction of the captain at the postmatch was basically he thought that they'd been diddled out of a victory because of the umpires conditions that were regarded as dangerous, and the commentators were saying, well, we haven't got any spin ball as to bowl, but it seemed as though winning was more important than the development for South Africa.

They've got a group that has played together for a period of time and you know that's how they viewed the match.

But you know, we'll make our judgment after the four days and see what happens.

I think our guys will be happy to come away with a win in those circumstances.

What's just one last point.

I just wanted to make the point that the importance of Jaden Lennox ten overs when everybody else was being smashed between six and ten and over went basic ten overs two for thirty six.

Good point, isn't it?

Yep?

And he bowled well and I remember you saying Jerry before he went away that he has to look to try and find a little bit of variation, used the crease a little more effectively.

And I watched him bowling, and I sense that he is doing that, and you know, is getting the time to play at this level with either a bowling coach, batting coach, or whoever the coaches are around him, and he's doing and using the time to develop his game, which is what this to.

Us about, isn't it It is?

And the more he's able to land the ball on a decent line and a decent length, which he's already got, hasn't he.

We know that he's an accurate, consistent left armor has a lot of them are.

But at this what you then have to learn to do is to get that ball out of your hand at a different kind of height and trajectory, but still landeth on the same play in the pitch.

So you have a variety of ways of getting the ball onto that kind of decent line and decent lengths, but coming from different angles, different heights, and different amount of turn.

Once you start doing that, then you're an international bowler.

Yes, indeed, Well, there's injury problems coming home with Nick Kelly having a sore shoulder, and he may well be involved in the short form cricket that New Zealand are about to play starting on the first of October.

I hope you've got that in your diary, Moose.

First of October the first international game.

We weren't even playing first class cricket years ago, when you you know, you probably had to wait for Christmas to play your first first class game in the country and it started after lunch, almost, didn't it.

The black Caps have got injury issues.

Willow Raurker is likely to be out of action for three months.

That doesn't sound promising.

Scans have revealed a stress factor in the lower back and he'll be given every chance to repair and get his body back into action.

Alongside to him, Glenn Phillips and Finalon ruled out of the Chapel Hadley series coming up in October against Australia, and Mitchell Sentner's having an operation.

So there's some issues for our selectors.

You want to start your home summer, if that's what it's going to be called, with your full array of players.

I just wonder whether these guys are being treated properly by their franchise as they're playing different cricket, getting on airplanes in and out of different hotels and heavens knows what, and they're coming home to start this season and half the squads didn't it.

I just think that this is probably what we're going to have to get used to because it's the way.

It's the way the.

World is moving, and the subject perhaps we'll talk about a little bit later, but I just think it's unavawilable.

Question for you is if Satna's not playing, which is a pity because his games just grow.

It hasn't it immeasurably in the last eighteen months two years?

Is in well done him?

It's the captain of the one day game.

Michael Brace will perhaps question.

I think he's being considered.

I don't know that they recall Tim Survey will later take the runs.

Probably he might captain the Black Clash game.

They've got two for each side and that, by the way, which is quite exciting.

But I mean, you know, our players, yeah, great that they get the opportunity to play in franchise cricket and they get good money that probably they couldn't get paid here in New Zealand.

But you know to my mind, you know that they're basically giving their their body.

Bodies are real hammering, and we don't get the value we in New Zealand.

Our spectators still want to see our best players playing at home.

Don't we what we do?

But as I said, I just think that we have to accept that this is probably this is this is the new norm.

If that's not a much of a cliche, I don't think we're going to get away from it.

But but but what the game is happening though is, as we just come off talking about the AID Tour, we're developing depth and I think that that can only be a good thing for us, going to see these new players coming in and perhaps darl Phillips is going to get a chance.

But just on that point, did I hear this morning that Paddy Cummens is not coming over He's got.

A lower Yeah, he's had a hot spot.

He's got a hot spot in his back which is not necessarily a stress fracture, but it certainly is a portent of its It could be coming and so they will.

They will now rest him completely until the Ashes to see if he's able to be ready for that first match at purse in the first Test.

So yeah, that's a bit of an issue for Australia, isn't it.

Obviously, Well, Paddy cummins he basically, in terms of getting wickets at the top of the order, it tends to be Stark and Hazelwood.

But whenever another side starts to develop a partnership and get something going and it's still their top order, that's when Commons, to me, from what I've watched, comes into his own.

He quite often breaks those big partnerships up.

Yet the other issue too is England's point of view whether or not he would be in the Ashes, but he must be in consideration with Jamie Overton, who's decided to give away red ball cricket make his money out of franchise cricket.

Now you know England also have issues with paste bowlers and fitness and getting them ready for Ashes.

And in a later program we can look at that and see how it's going to plan out.

But that's what Moos says, the new norm.

Overdon decided I can't do everything.

Well, I wonder wadd's where whether it's time players who have up until now played for their countries and have access to a lot of medical assistance and coaching and other sort of those kinds of things that help the players along to keep them on the part whether they have to now if they're going to be solo agents and move around that they have their own that they have to pay for people to be part of their own team if you want, and they go from place to place as golfers do, and coaches and those sorts of things that they move around.

They're on planes, they're playing a lot.

They've got to be fit and ready to play in order to earn the cash.

So therefore we've got to have to look after it and spend and they can't if they're, say, playing in a series saying I don't know in the States, suddenly call up someone from New Zealand cricket.

You can't do that.

They're actually a solo agent at that point in time, aren't you.

And you're being paid separately, and you have said I don't want a contract, and so look, I think that might be maybe a possible development.

I don't know, and I don't know to what extent, but it's just a thought that I have about each of those players who want to make that choice.

Well, they are they are independent contractors.

That's that's right, purely what they are.

And therefore once you're that, Once you're that, you you then take on the fact that what am I selling.

I'm selling my ability, I'm selling my capabilities.

How do I what do I do to protect that?

Therefore, you know I do need it.

I do need a trainer which I can't go and access from.

I don't know the local province.

Do I need a manager?

You know?

These are which are player would have New.

Zealand Cricket pay.

New Zealand Cricket pays medical bills for players who are injured during their season.

So the medical bills, any operations should be the responsibility of who you're playing for.

Now, you know you're talking about player contracts and I mean we don't know the ends and outs of those at the moment, but you know it will take that kind of situation where we're not seeing our players somebody else has to pay the bills rather than New Zealand Cricket and they're medical people.

Well, well that's where that's where as I said, these are independent contractors.

Now I don't know whether there are what they what your term is carve outs in the New Zealand contracts, which says that if you get injured somewhere else, that's to your cost.

But if it's not, then it probably should be because the New Zealand crickets shouldn't shouldn't have to pony up for.

That in my view.

But yes, I think, as I said, when we're moving into it, into a whole whole, brave new world, and these sort of things that you hadn't really thought about previously coming to the fore and yeah, I'll be instant the other plays out.

Yeah, well we'll watch this with a lot of interest because the first of October.

We've not played international cricket in the first of October and our players are not going to be one hundred percent foot.

We'll just have to wait and see.

The other interesting thing, the traditional test calendar could lead to bankruptcy for certain nations that, according to Cricket Australia chief Todd Greenberg is warned about the possibility of a slim down schedule, we're literally trying to send the country's bankrupt if we force them to play test cricket.

Well, he got a response from Mitchell Johnson, and you know, I always thought that Mitchell Johnson was just a fast bowler, but he actually makes a lot of sense in what he's saying.

His response to Greenberg was, if you really care about test cricket, you don't start by telling the smaller boards to play less of it.

You start by helping them to play more and the right way, the right structures, treat them like partners, not liabilities.

I find that quite compelling.

Jerry, Well, it is.

I don't think he'd get any arguments from me about those sorts of things.

Maybe we're saying that because we are one of the smaller boards.

But I think there's also another aspect to this, WADS.

I think there's a slight sort of bit of geopolitics between the big three going on at this point.

I remember being over in England for the Worldtiest Championship there and Jaysharr was there and Richard Gould, who's the guy who's the CEO of the ECB England Cricket Board and India were pretty displeased with England at the time because they ordered their players back.

It was either from the IPL late in the tournament or maybe another franchise tournament.

And of course India are involved in most of the tournaments now enfranchises and he said this is Richard Gould said that he would back India and not send English players to the proposed Saudi Arabian tournament.

You remember that they came up with an idea and which was which was sort of pushed by an Australian called Glenn Maxwell, was it or Maxwell.

Who was here in New zeal And.

I remember they were basically saying to Australia, no, you're not going to run this tournament, or if you do, you're not going to get any of our top players from India or England.

And also at that time, of course England were just receiving a hell of a lot of money from India to pay with all their one hundred teams for their franchises.

So there was suddenly a lot of money coming to those other India had it already, England were getting it through the hundred and backing India, and so then there was a case of what do we do now the Saudi thing might not fly and we've got our own franchises, local franchises paying for themselves and not getting money for Well that's changed, hasn't it since they are now going to sell some of those big bash franchises.

So I see this in kind of that little bit of a terms as well of India and England moving away from Australia slightly, and now Australia say, hang on a tick, we're with you.

We're with you here about about playing each other more often to make money and to hell with those little ones.

We're saving you from being bankrupt for whatever that Kadjogga said, Well, yeah.

Well, just on that point, I mean, Todd Greenby, I did read there was some interesting didn't he have his origins in the in the in the NRL.

I think he did so quite why now that he's here he's now an expert in global cricket.

But I did read that with interest and I thought you were just talking your own book here, Todd.

And he did talk about the fact that you know, we've got to prioritize quality.

Well, quantity is a subjective statement.

Over over quantity, Well what does that actually mean?

What it means is we're going to play more because because we're going to make more money.

But it's going to get terribly tedious, isn't it?

If England, India and Australia just play each other.

There's just there's no interest in that New Zealand.

When they go to to Australia next year, I bet you the MCG is going to be pretty pretty full of New Zealanders hoping that New Zealand's going to front up.

And to your point was about what Mitchell Johnson said, He's one hundred percent right in this.

You actually share it, then you can't build the global game.

There's no trickle down here and there needs to be because three three teams playing each other is going to get very very tedious.

Yeah.

The thing at high to me is of course that the game at the top level, the ICC and the people who run it, are more interested in accumulation of revenue rather than developing the sport the world over.

The fact that they've picked two new countries, Okay they're Zambia and t Moor.

They're not going to be sides that really matter a hell of a lot of the ICC, but that is at least promoting the game in those areas.

But they should be also considering every format of the game T twenty ODI and test matches and spending their money in that way.

Tests don't make the big revenue, but if you make it somewhere else.

Make sure you apportioned the money to ensure that Test match cricket is able to be promoted.

I'm convinced that given the opportunities a country, ic country that I know well, and I'm fond of the Netherlands, I'm sure they would love to have maybe not five day matches, but four day matches, just to build into it.

They play endlessly twenty twenty and maybe the old one day game.

I mean that it gets a little bit boring.

Frankly, if I'm a player, I know they'd love it.

I mean, how couldn't they plug one of those games on at the end end of the tournaments that they variously play.

I don't know, but to me, that just seems to me how you build the game.

You look at Scotland.

They chose not to have a first class structure.

They chose to be just one day formats, and I think that's fine, that's absolutely okay.

But I do think as far as you know, there's two division stuff that they're talking about, guys, there are already two divisions, aren't there.

Yeah, you know, there's the World Test Championship Division and there's the others, which we'll ignore.

Well, there's actually probably three the third divisions.

There are others that we won't even let play tests.

And so you know, as far as that's concerned and money, at the moment, we have a by it.

We've always had a bilateral series as the basis of our test cricket.

And at the moment, the home side take the money away that they make during the time that we have you know, sides here.

That's why everybody wants India in Australia there at the moment, or England and but and that's it's not but that money is going to have to be shared.

It's going to have to flow through to other sides.

If this game is the test match, games are going to continue, you know, so that if you're in the second division you probably won't get as much as the first division as it's shared out.

But if there are two tiers, then to me, you need one TV broadcasting partner.

You know, you share the world.

We cannot have the haves and the have nots, because just because they have large broadcast deals, that's the reason that they've really been come wealthy, and you end up with nobody able to play.

As you've pointed out, moves no one wants to play just the same people every time.

That's why.

That's precisely why I think all the boards got together and they said, let's form a little thing called an ICC and will organize a thing called a World Cup, and we'll just then once we've got that, you design us a tournament so we all play each other.

You find a broadcaster and we'll share the yearnings.

And that's what really should happen in these divisions that they are talking about.

That of course will not happen.

India, Australia and England.

Somehow they will pull out.

They will not be allowed to fall out of Division one.

You can be sure of that.

So that puts promotion relegation.

It's a bit of a nonsense.

It'll be us, three of us and a few others we want to play to make up to six and the rest of you you go play on your own.

That's kind of what they're wanting, I think, And I just feel that's not divisions.

That's a league where you don't get out of your league.

Yeah, you don't get out of your division.

That's what they're proposing.

Yeah, interesting subject that Jerry and Muse have had comments on and there'll be more to have from that, I'm sure, and other issues facing the international game as they look to try and find a window to keep everybody happy come.

Out very shortly.

We're going to be joined by Mark Young and lives on the Capity Coast but has had a lot of inputs in cricket and Tim Moore less Day, which is just admission to the ICC as an associate member.

And it's an interesting situation because of course they don't have a hell of a lot of cricket in that part of the world.

Just before Mark joins us, though, on a sad personal note, a former club player who played for Karori when I was first starting out on my club era has passed away.

Peter Trusco played one game for New Zealand, a Test metch against Pakistan and sixty five punishing and attractive batsman to watch.

It's passed away in top Oak and said to hear of his passing.

I don't know whether you would have remembered.

He probably would have been playing before your time.

Jerry and Welling.

He played Karori till about sixty six sixty seven.

Yeah, I was remember Prus got more for Wellington of course, and then and then that Test match for New Zealand.

I did play again, I just started.

I was still at college, I remember at that time.

But yeah, that's about all I do recall as a sort of a middle order bat.

Yep, he was.

He was a sort of very much an attacking style player and he brought to cricket in Wellington.

His early cricket routes from Mcadterbury.

I don't know whether you have played the Moose.

No predated me definitely, but I certainly remember his name, and you know, to go back over things, what a wonderful thing to've actually played one test for for for New Zealand.

And you'd never forget that, would you.

Well?

I think that happened quite a bit around that time too, didn't it.

Sort of the fifties and sixties.

Yeah, suppliers, But.

But you know what some of us would give our proverbial, Yeah yeah, but a new contrast to the swan song of a certain medium slow bowler who got quite a chest recently.

And what's your proverbial?

Mostly the left one?

Because you didn't leave team many after that?

Did you leave many in those days?

Never mind, we will move on.

Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

A recent announcement from the ICC meeting in Singapore might not have attracted the celebrations it could have in many parts of the cricket world, but it was a significant statement from the top level administrators on the importance of growing the game.

They're up to one hundred and ten members now in the ICC and the two new member countries Zambian Cricket Union and Team or Less Day Cricket Federation.

They're part as the ICC Associate membership.

There might have been a glass or two raised by one Cavity coase Rerisen if he'd been there, of course at the time.

I think he was in the UK enjoying the summer and the cricket and that part of the world.

Mark Young has been a passionate cricket follower in recent times, has spent a period in Team or Less Day whereas we used to know East tm Or and Mark joins us on the front foot.

I wonder how being part of the ICC as associate member would have been received in Dilly.

Mark you know what's good to be here?

Yeah?

Well, I think in the small pockets of the cricket community they were ecstatic, to be honest, but I think there's still large portions of Dilly that probably don't really realize what cricket actually is.

So it depends who you speak to.

I guess.

Yeah, So how's it got to this stage?

I mean, you've worked hard in terms of promotion and development for the game there.

Tell us about your involvement and how it's got to the stage.

We were well, me and my partner Lara were volunteering there through the essay in about twenty eighteen, well between eighteen and twenty and one day, on the way back from work on a microlate, which is a very small bus, a bit of a dodgy bus that anyway, I saw a few locals playing cracket with I couldn't believe it, with sort of homemade bats and homemade stumps, and so I'm like, did I really see that?

The next day, same journey, decided to get off introduce myself and they invited me to come and coach.

So I used all the skills for my whitby junior under elevens to help the team or less day youth, and it sort of went on from there and we got a lot of it was actually bounded by a Pakistani guy, Van tire and Man and Maliana his Timris wife who we're passionate about cricket.

They got a few players at Youngster's playing but as to say, they had these that homemade equipment, like a homemade bat and a homemade stumps.

The bat was actually the size the width of the of the stumps, so totally illegal.

You know, you'd never have got Jeff boy got out with it.

But anyway, it was that that was what they were using.

And so I got involved and we managed to get some gear from local clubs around Wellington that Christmas of twenty eighteen, and yeah, it sort of went on from there really and grew the game.

Yeah you've been arranging gear for some time.

You've been a couple of guys, haven't you.

Yeah's a couple of guys you know.

Recently this year thanks to Cricket Wellington who donated quite a few, quite a lot of gear, sort of plastic you know, kids gear which is great for schools.

And also there's an organization in the UK called Back for a Chance run by Will and Nicky and John and they provide gear to developing countries around the world.

And we applied and we managed to get hold of what will be about twenty four to twenty five bags full of gear from the UK that will basically help the national men's team, the national women's team that's currently at the moment on its way from hopefully from London to Dilly on a container and that should arrive in October.

So yeah, getting the equipment is very is critical to develop cricket in Team More.

But it's not the easiest place to get to and I should should add that when we sent the gear earlier this year from from Wellington to Dilly, it was thanks to the New Zealand Defense Force who had a spare corner on a container, so we used it.

Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess you'd still want more gears.

So anybody who wants to provide some gear or help with the development of the game over there, we can be in contact with Mark and you can get us on the front foot twenty at gmail dot com and we can offer the opportunity to get gear up to Team More.

What about the standard of play, It won't be that high.

I imagine it's not that high.

No, currently and it's we had up to about two hundred youngsters playing.

There is actually an older group of players who are a lot of like expat Indians and Pakistanis who will play every Sunday at a particular ground in Dilley where they use their four wheel drives to flatten the pitch and before they start, and yeah, they have some pretty fierce contests.

So there are some some sort of expats that play and have played for a number of years.

But we're obviously aiming at the younger generation of Timorese going into schools and yeah, so certainly the quality is not there yet.

But I did take two younger, the better young the more talented Timmeris to dow it.

But a few years ago and the and the North, you know, the anti cricket guys were very welcoming and they were there for a week and they were very impressed with the abilities, the actual natural abilities of these Timori Timaris cricketers.

So so the talent is there, but it is very raw and needs quite a lot of yeah developments.

Do you get assistance from the ICC, Will they be helping out and will there be opportunities for players to play in competitions outside team more, because I guess that's where they get most of their cricket at the moment, doesn't it.

Well, it is, yeah, I mean well we we We've only had one actually offshore tour and that was de Bali last year.

So I mean ic CE a critical Obviously, becoming an ic C associate member has a bit of a game changer for Team More Cricket and they they have been excellent in terms of providing support.

Yeah, giving us a plan of what we need to do.

We need to develop a couple of grounds, and particularly women's cricket is a big is a big focus and and they've been helpful in terms of, you know, pointings in the right direction.

A guy called Toby and Emily at ICC who have been our main points of contact, and yeah, they they're at a we've actually just done a budget for the next few months and they will be giving us some money to help develop the game in two more and as an associate member you get a certain amount of money a year which you know is to develop the game and that is a game change it for Team More Cricket.

Yeah, you talked about going to Northern Territory in Australia.

That I guess is a closer option as well.

You probably want an hour away from Darwin.

Yeah, Darwin Dilly is about an hour and a bit flight than Darwin.

It's it's it's incredibly close.

It kind of feels like different planets sometimes when you when you do that trip.

But yeah, Northern Territage cricket, you know, that's a link that we want to develop undoubtedly.

Yeah.

So yeah, yeah, because you've got to find a way of improving quality and getting the standard up so that you can play in whatever regional tournaments the.

ICC host absolutely absolutely, yeah so and yeah, so there's nt cricket and of course coaching, you know, we want to get some more professional coaching over to Team more and they may be able to help us with that.

But there's other countries in the region like Indonesia and Pappy New Guinea and who are part of this East Asia.

So so Team always become part of what they call East Stagia Pacific ICC, which is and there's twelve countries involved in that, including Indonesia, Pappy New Guinea, Thailand, et cetera, et cetera.

So they are our closest sort of playing partners and they are hopefully who we will start playing in T twenty competitions in the next two or three years, subject to askedding, you know, developing to that sort of standard.

Yeah, so some people have sort of equated team or a little bit to Afghanistan.

I mean they're obviously the you know, the the amazing achievement they've made and both sort of very conflict post conflict you know countries, and yeah, but I guess we've got a long way to go to emulate Afghanistan.

But it's amazing what they've done.

You know, you never know where you're going to get it from.

There was a guy in the middle of nowhere in the wire Rappa, a Yorkshireman actually, and he had about fifty or sixty cricket balls that I went out to get.

You know, you never know what's in people's garages.

So the more gear the better.

The other thing that we are doing is we have a plan to develop a new ground by the end of this year, and so we are fundraising.

We've just started to give a little page to help fundraise for funds for you know, to develop that ground, which will be the Lords of Team more probably probably have the slope as well.

But yeah, yeah, well quite clearly you'll be able to apply your trade as a player in that part of the world, knowing your expertise with the ball.

Who knows, I might make my international debut for Team More in Bali in November if they do that, which will be kind of crazy.

Thanks yay, very good to talk to you, and we'll keep up to date with any hope that you know, somebody will come forward with some gear that they can offer you.

Thank you, Well's really appreciate it, appreciate your time.

Thanks for much, Marky.

It'd be an interesting prospect Lord's team or they're looking for a new ground up there, Jerry.

I don't know whether you would actually qualify to play there, but I'm sure you've played in some unusual places.

My I remember you went to once.

Didn't you.

Yeah?

I did.

That's entire the north of Ti chang Rai, chang Rai, chang Rai, Yeah, chang Rai up in the top.

I enjoyed that from Mark.

Actually, is he the guy that I occasionally drank?

Was at your place?

It okay?

All right?

Well, no, good guy.

He sounds a nice guy too, and I loved that idea of the him seeing them roll the picture with a four wheeled drive vehicle.

What is that different?

Yeah?

Different, A bit different from discussing pictures with Meg lay on the ground staff from Lords actually a couple of weeks ago, wasn't it.

Yes, So yeah, you know there may be something for us to go up there and play.

When they take it take a too.

Well, I think, yeah, I think I probably think with all with those four wheel drive tire tracks, I think it'd be a bit variable, and so I probably i'd probably go off my long run up and that would be that would race to four paces.

Now I just had a hit done, of course, so it's more of a more of a stagger than a run up.

And I'm hoping they're using still in team or less a two piece balls so that I could get a bit of swing.

You you would feel for me was on the off side where I think your sledging would be more effective than your fielding.

Uh.

And the last time I saw you on the park in a match, you've got to catchure it where you didn't didn't really demand you to move too far, and as the ball descended it arrived and it must have burst through your heads or maybe your hands weren't in the right place.

I don't know.

But I did see it collide with your head.

It did, and yeah, and it rebounded and bounced over the boundary for six.

So you're not You're not going legs side as far as I'm concerned.

And when we bat wadds with our failing eyesight, I think it's sort of convulsive cony locomotion and your twitchy waddle waddle singles are out.

I would say yes and maybe pause.

Very fortunate and mainly from the inside edge.

I'd be tight.

I'd be tired out walking out to the middle to bat.

But we couldn't get a game going up there of geriatrics, and you might.

We'll all go up and I'd be well, I think both of us below nine.

Look, have you played on unusual grounds where you wouldn't expected to play any cricket?

Yeah?

Well, yeah, I do.

In a number of spring to mind, and one in particular which has scarred me and has also given me great trouble.

It's obscure and it's it's it's it's up in the highlands of Johnson book called Alex Moore Park.

There's never really from the.

Hell and Isaac will be listening to this.

I mean there was straight, I mean I mean the local inhabitants were largely described as the village idiots.

And so.

God knows where and and and I've never Yeah, it's it's it's it's a sense that scarred me ever since.

Yeah, let's kill there Johnsonville listeners.

We can't.

Yeah, we have to be traveling through and very strong cars like sort of four wheel drives.

Do you think maybe, well, some of us learned how cricket on Thennville Park had to play there for God.

So come in we did, We did, and it didn't have that little rise at the end.

Remember that moose you had come out at Elmore and you have that little rise at the end there that would at the ball at least would come back to you.

What about overseas, No.

No, I look at you know, having played played in northern England, you ended up playing in some pretty interesting places.

And and I also played a lot of what they used to call them those days, jazz hat cricket, which is now been embraced in New Zealand with like people people of middle aged persuasions, like wearing struppy blazers.

But that took me to small grounds, private grounds cricket.

Really tell you what it's we we we.

We've been dealing with geopolitical stuff, but at its core it's given me a lot of great memories and a lot of mates around the world.

You know.

Yeah, it's sort of been the home for a lot of fun cricket and I'm sure they have a lot of fun and each team more.

And I'll have a word with Young he might be able to arrange a trip for us to get even if we go out there and play six a side, you know, that could be an interesting challenge.

Much running, too much running came into the bush.

I can feel the twins in my hamstring already.

Well your insurance.

We'll try and get some people to give to the give a little page.

They're also setting up to try and establish a new ground in Dilly in tim or Leste, one of two new countries admitted to the ICC, Zambia being the other.

There's one hundred and ten members of the ICC, so it's a fairly strong outfit in terms of the reach.

Whether it does enough for those places as it does for itself in India and other places, I'm not too sure.

Thanks for making the trip home, Jerry to join us, Otherwise it would have been pretty tough on Moose.

I just doing this all on our own, so I'm glad you're able to come home and actually your house was still standing.

Yeah, well it is that that was a bonus.

I don't think we flew over t more, just a bit to the east of that.

It's actually I didn't look it upwards to see how many grounds they play on at the moment, which I guess looks like school cricket to me, or which is a good place to start get the kids involved.

And then they also have one that's at Dilly in the capital, as you mentioned, the Tussy Tollu ground in Dilly, and they start at seven am in the morning.

They speak two languages there, but look, obviously I think Portuguese.

Their skull is the word for school, I think, isn't it.

At scholar Pechondria bahlabah esb.

They were playing the Dilly Dragons at seven am on September the sixth, and then at nine o'clock in the morning the Dilly International School.

Well that makes sense, doesn't it playing a Scholar Fenatil.

So those are the two matches at that ground in Dilly.

And then there's another place which is a province away to the northwest of Dilley, which is at one end kind of the western end of.

T More.

And that is a place I don't know how to pronounce it, guys.

It's OECU ssec or something I can't anyway, And there's a cricket ground and they were playing three games on September the sixth, and they're at nine am, twelve pm and three thirty pm.

So a little bit longer.

It's one hundred sixty three k's.

It takes you three hours and three minutes by car to get there from Dilley, or fifty two minutes in a plane.

So there you go.

Well, could could be a lot of fun on our trip up that part of the world.

I'll get Youngie onto it and we'll see what we can do in terms of a tour.

You'll be you'd be started, Remoose, yes or no.

Look, look I'll come back to you on that if that's all right.

Yeah, I don't think the seven am one is good for Moose.

I think maybe the three thirty he can kind of get he can kind of get his strapping done by then.

Yeah, that's what.

You will look into that.

We'll look into that Thanks guys, till you again that.

That can.

Summer.

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