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Red Sox Make INTERESTING Trade; Jarren Duran, Ketel Marte Update

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Welcome to boss A Territory, Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing everybody?

Hello, Hello, welcome to another episode here.

I hope you all had a great weekend.

Uh man oh man.

The wrestling fan and me had to witness the John Cena John Cena's last match.

It was a bit of a sad weekend for me and hopefully the Red Sox can start making some moves here to cheer me up a little bit.

And we did get one move tonight.

We got a trade and not to trade any of us were expecting.

Craig Breslo getting yet another massive moose of a picture.

My goodness, how many of these massive pictures is Craig Brezlo going to acquire this offseason?

And I mean it feels like we got like ten guys that are like seven feet tall.

It feels like we'll get into it.

The Red Sox acquiring Jake Bennett from the Washington Nationals, sending Luis Paralis, highly tatted prospect for the Red Sox over the last couple of years.

So that's an interesting one.

A rare picting prospect swap I'll give you my thoughts on that.

Jared Duran is the idea of possibly going to the Kansas City Royals still alive, if very well could be even after the Royals made a trade for Isaac Collins this past weekend.

I'll get into that.

We got a couple of free agent news.

Well, actually, I guess you could say a few news, a few bit of news here on the on the desk for tonight.

We got one late one here right before the start of the show from Jared Crabs and I'll dive into that.

I'll give you my thoughts on that.

We do have an update as well on Katail Marte and uh listen, Ka tell Marte still very high on him, and we'll talk about that as well.

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Uh, let's get to it, everybody.

We got a lot to talk about, and let's get to this trade first and foremost.

Like I said, Craig Breslow getting himself just just another one of these massive pictures.

Craig, you know, we have lots of bets to you know, be taking a look at this offseason, and it feels like all he's doing is looking to get a minus Sonny Gray.

He's just stocking up on these guys here.

And here's another one, Jake Bennett from the And this is an interesting one, right, Louis Paralis.

This has been a pitching prospect that we've been talking about for the last couple of years, the last few years.

He had Tommy John not too long ago.

He came back this past year and there were talks of him even, you know, maybe even being in the Red Sox bullpen by the end of the year.

Very good stuff with Louis Parrales, good Villo, good breaking stuff as well.

My dishes are done in the background.

I don't know if you can hear the beeping in the background, but my dishes are done.

Sorry about that, everybody, but Louis Parous this is a guy where you know, I was very curious about, like I said, electric good Velo guy was you know, a very electric arm to have the organization, but you know, more smaller stature.

And you know, if you take a look here, over the last couple of years, Breslo, they have been really stopping stocking up on these big guys, right, Uh, Peyton Totley, that's the one that really jumps off the page.

You know, a guy like Marcus Phillips they took in the draft as well.

You know, you take a look at uh, just the just the amount of size that he's been adding.

You know, guys that are like six foot five, six foot six, and Jake Bennett guy stands at six foot six.

He's got massive extension.

And uh, the Red Sox they are really leaning into this.

And you take a look at Peyton Totally when they first took him out of TCU, a guy that was more in the low nineties with his v LO and they got him in the lab and they worked on a couple of things, and Peyton Totally's got one of the most electric fastballs in the game.

Now, all right, you know, still Visa develop on the secondaries.

But you know he's a prime example of that.

So, you know, we just take a look at all the pictures now that the Red Sox have taking a Lookxie, hold on a second, there we go.

So, I mean, you know, you bring in Johanno Viedo not too long ago.

You know, a guy with the Pirates had shown some flashes of brilliance.

You know, a guy that does have good stuff, just a massive frame behind him.

And you also take a look at who they just acquired in the Rule five draft, Ryan Watson An.

They're just big guy, right.

You know.

It's funny because I've talked about this with the Red Sox.

Sorry if you can't see my screen here, but I have talked about this with the Red Sox here, you know, several times, you know, going back to you know, ever since they took Peyton totally, they're looking for these guys that have these big canvases, right that you can just work with because you know, these big bodied guys they are gonna in my opinion, and I think, you know, you go back and look at the history right of guys like Roger Clemens, they are just gonna be more durable I think, right, these are guys that can really handle a workload.

And because they have those big frames, you know, they got a lot of potential behind them that they tend to, you know, have that big extension where the release point is getting closer to the plate.

And uh, Jake Bennett, he's an interesting one, right he you know, kind of what I said really about Peyton, totally not a lot of v low with him.

He's gonna sit more in the low nineties as of right now.

He can get it up to around ninety six ninety seven according to the scouting reports.

But there is a bit of life on the fastball, and that is because of the extinction that he has.

He's able to just get that close release point, you know, to the batter, and there is a bit of life there.

Right with Bennett.

This is a guy that's had some really good numbers in the minor leagues up to this point.

He was taken to the second round back in twenty twenty two, forty fifth overall picking that draft, and he'd been pitching really well.

I mean twenty twenty three, he started off in a ball he was in high A.

He looked really good in a ball.

Then the numbers.

Took a bit of a dip in high a there, but then you know, I believe he got I'm not sure why he did miss all of two twenty four there.

I believe there was something with the arm.

I can't remember exactly I miss that.

But twenty twenty five he came back and he looked really good.

Overall, nineteen games, eighteen starts, e l rad a two point twenty seven fit at a two point nine to six.

However, if you take a look at the strikeout rate, only seven point six strikeouts per nine.

That's not really a whole lot, and I believe that is more so, I think you could look at the v LO.

There's not really a whole lot of swing and miss with it.

But he does have a very good change up.

Baseball America gives it a sixty grade.

So if you can get that velo up with the good change up that he has, that's gonna give you some good separation there and hitters are gonna have a hard time picking him up.

He has a slider in there as well.

But another good thing about Bennett, and this is something else that the Red Sox really like.

He's a strike thrower, right the Red Sox want not just big body guys, but guys that can attack the strike zone.

Bennett, this is a guy, all right.

This past year two walks per nine this past year, two point two overall in High A and Double A this past year.

You even go back to twenty twenty three when he made fifteen starts two point twenty nine walks per nine.

So the guy's gonna throw strikes.

He is pretty much a guy you just want to get in the lab.

You want to work with a couple of things, right, try to get that villa up a little bit.

And this is a guy that could have some potential for the Red Sox down the road.

Now, listen, I like Luis Parraus Like I said, you know, electric arm.

But he got the Tommy John.

He came back late this past year.

There were talks of him possibly being in the Red Sox Bullpen.

He went to fall ball in the Arizona Fall League, and he actually was not looking very good at all.

Let me pull up the numbers here.

Hold on a second, I had the numbers pulled up.

Well, on a second, let's pull these up.

They were no bueno ladies and gentlemen, so well, a very small sample eleven innings pitch and fall ball.

But in Elray, over a ten right eleven and a third innings pitch, you give up sixteen hits, give up thirteen runs, two home runs.

He had nineteen strikeouts, so the strikeout rate was still very good, but he was also walking a lot of guys.

He had eight walks per nine over that eleven innings pitch, so overall that was eleven walks in eleven and a third innings pitch.

So he was battling with a command.

He was getting hit pretty hard, and you know, yeah, so he did miss a lot of time.

But I kind of wonder if maybe the Red Sox they were kind of watching, They're like, I don't know, there was just something they weren'tking, and maybe this opportunity came up where you got to remember Paul Taboni, he went over to Washington.

He knows Parles well, and you know, this is kind of just a classic case of Hey to Boney probably likes the stuff of Parrales, but the Red Sox like the stuff of Bennett.

So I think it's you know, a lot of people were reading into this as you know, oh, maybe the Red Sox are you know, making a trade to you know, to set themselves up, you know, for another trade.

Right, they're adding another big lefty here, another big arm right to this just plethora of pitching they've now built over the last couple of years.

I'll be honest, you know, I'm not going to really read too much into it.

It could you know the fact that you're getting someone like Bennett who has a similar frame.

I would say Peyton totally, he's a he's the bigger stature guy overall, but Bennett he does have the similar size.

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You know.

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Could they be setting themselves up to possibly make a move where maybe you're moving one of these other guys, right, he is a lefty, you know, so maybe you're setting yourself up to you know, move someone.

I don't think they're gonna move totally, but could they be setting themselves up to move someone like Harrison, you know, or whatever it may be.

It's interesting, But what I think overall, really, I think just for the most part, the Red Sox they just saw more upside with Bennett and they felt like he would be a good fit within their organization.

Right.

I think Paralys just is what he is I don't want to say is what he is at this point.

But you know you got the high v low.

You know you got the wicked splitter there.

He's got a cutter that he mixes in as well.

He's got the stuff, right, But I wonder how far the Red Sox thought he could go.

And there was one interesting comment that Craig Breslo may talking about Bennett, and that was he saw him as a guy that has potential to be a starter in a rotation.

So that kind of made me think maybe they saw Paralys as more of a long term reliever.

I wonder if that maybe came into play well in the end, it was an interesting trade.

I don't think there's too much into it.

You know, maybe it could be a little bit of both.

Maybe they are trying to acquire more pitching that they like, you know that obviously is under a lot of control, that could maybe set themselves up for something else.

I think you could say maybe it's a little bit of both, right, because obviously they have a lot of assets to move here.

They are set up well, you know, to go for a trade, whether that's someone like Caatel Marte or possibly another arm to upgrade the rotation more towards the top behind Crochet, maybe a little bit of both.

I think maybe somewhere in the middle there.

But I think Bennett really just fits the mold of what they're looking to build there in Boston.

So but that is it for that interesting trade.

So what have we got here in the chat?

Over two hundred of people joining us here tonight, igb says, give us Reagan's.

Hey, you know what, I would love Cole Reagan's.

I would absolutely love that man.

And you know what, that's a good little segue.

That's a good segue here.

Let's talk a little Jared Durant, Jared Duran popping up in the news yet again, and uh taking a look.

The Royals continue to explore the outfield market.

Now, in case you were living under a rock, this past weekend, the Royals did make a trade for an outfielder.

No, not Jared Duran, No not will you're a brave but Isaac Collins from the Brewers.

Interesting trade.

Isaac Collins was very good for the Brewers last year.

I like this move for the Royals a lot.

So a lot of people thought, okay, well, all right, that might be it when it comes to the Royals adding another outfielder, right.

However, if you take a look here at the Royals lineup, I mean you know you might be thinking, all right, yeah Collins there.

Yeah, they're probably pretty much set, but you know what, they could still make it up great.

Here you got Kyle Isabel out in center field.

Now, he's gonna be very good defensively, but a seventy nine WRC plus last year and that's not really gonna cut it.

So maybe they see an opportunity to still upgrade this offense here in Kansas City.

And according to the reports, well, the Royals are still exploring the outfield market, and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic he says that the Royals could still be a factor for Jaron Durant.

He also talked about Cole Reagan's there.

Rosenthal suggests that the Kansas City Royals balked at putting Star Southpaw Cole Reagan's in a Durand trade.

Whether the Red Sox would insist on Reagan's inclusion isn't known, as the Athletic report indicates that Boston executives viewed the team's talks to date as preliminary.

I believe Chris Catillo said that one or Tim Healey, I can't remember now.

Also speaking of Tim Healy, friend of the show, he said, here, it's clear the Red Sox are putting a lofty price on their top outfielders, and they should.

They should, And you know, I see a lot of people out there saying, oh, the Red Sox, they don't really have a lot of leverage.

You know, they haven't really been making a whole lot of moves this offseason.

That doesn't matter.

You set a high price for Jaron Duran.

The guy's had a ten wins above replacement over the last couple of years.

He's a good player, you know, whether or not you want to look at the era that he made in the postseason.

You know, he was inconsistent defensively all year out in left field.

The bats a bit inconsistent as well, had some trouble against lefties.

But in the end, the guy was ranking near the top and it came to the doubles and triples over the last couple of years.

Still had himself a very good season.

He's gonna give you a lot of speed out there.

Duran's gonna cost you a lot, especially because he has the three years of control.

Now, could you do Duran for Reagan straight up, No, absolutely not.

The Royals would be insane to do a swap like that.

No, Reagans would cost a lot.

Yes, he had some injuries this past year, but Cole Reagan's was just in the top five with Cy Young voting a couple of years ago.

Yeah, Cole Reagan's is very good and he has a few years of control left.

So no, it's gonna take Duran and a lot more to get Cole Reagan's.

It's not gonna be easy to acquire him.

Now.

If the Royals don't want to move Reagans, which I understand that, you know they they've come out and said, hey, we see Cole Reagans as a Game one starter in the postseason, and they should absolutely feel that way.

He's very good.

But if they want to acquire someone like Duran, straight up, they don't really have a whole lot of assets to acquire Duran that the Red Sox would want.

Yes, they have some prospects, you know, they got a couple of catching prospects, right, got Carter Jansen, he got Blake mit Schell.

You do have a young arm like Noah Cameron, who showed some things this past year.

But when you look the Red Sox needs, well, I mean they've been adding catchers left and right.

We're talking about how they're adding all these massive pitchers.

Well they've been adding a lot of catchers to a lot of catching depth to the organization.

I mean, could they add a Blake Mike Sure or Carter Jansen Maybe.

I don't really see it though, especially when you already have Carlos Norias, right, And Noah Cameron, that's not really a needle mover for the top of the rotation.

Good year this past year, but the era did outpace the metrics, so I think there is a bit of regression possibility there with him next year.

So Noah Cameron, I don't think that's a guy you're gonna be putting behind Garrett Crochet.

So really, you know, and people say Bubick all the time, Well, the problem with Bubick is he has one more year of control.

He's coming off a rotator cuff injury.

I'm sure he's gonna be fine this year, but still there's not a lot of value with him.

There is value, but not Jaron Duran value.

So the Royals are kind of stuck when it comes to getting a deal done.

Straight up, unless you did Cole Reagan's for Duran and more.

The keywords there though, were straight up now.

Someone said this to me on Twitter, and you know, I've thought about the Royals as a candidate for a three team trade.

We also had a report there.

I forget who mentioned that.

Actually, I think JJ Bicolo said that himself.

I think he said, you know, maybe he could do a three team trade.

So there is an avenue for the Royals to acquire Duran without giving up Cole Reagan's.

Hey, since we're talking about the Nationals, well, could you maybe do something with the Nationals here right where Duran?

You send him to Kansas City.

The Red Sox can get McKenzie Gore, and then the Nationals can get a bunch of young talent right mainly from Kansas City.

There.

Maybe you could send back Noah Cameron, who is a young arm who has a lot of control, right, Maybe do send a package with him to Washington.

I could see that being a possibility, Or maybe call the Reds someone like Andrew Abbott.

If you want Hunter Green, it's gonna cost a lot more, but Andrew Abbott I think is pretty even value wise with Duran.

He's got a few years of control.

Actually, I think he's got four more years twenty twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine.

Yeah, so he's got four more years of control, and he was solid last year, so I think he's pretty close value wise with Duran.

So maybe you could do some kind of a swap there where Duran goes to kc Abbot can come to the Red Sox.

But I don't know.

I think the Reds would want major league talent backs, so I'm not sure how you would do that.

Or maybe you can call the Twins again about Joe Ryan May.

Maybe they lighten up at some point and they say, all right, fine, what can we do?

But here's the problem, right, most of the value would be going to Kansas City, and Joe Ryan, I would say, is closer.

I think Ryan probably has a bit more value than Duran, considering he's one of the better starting pitchers in the game.

Maybe you could say they're actually pretty close when it comes to the value.

So the Royals would have to send back a package there to Minnesota.

That would be basically an in division trade sort of kind of, but the Royals would have to send a whole bunch back to Minnesota, and I don't know when they do that.

So it's interesting if I were to think of a three team swap.

You know, I wonder if Gore could be that guy.

Maybe we'll see.

But I do think there is an avenue here for Duran to go to Kansas City.

I think he's still on the table.

We'll see.

They definitely seem to be holding on to Cole Reagan's tight, but you never know how the offseason can go.

You never know, very fluid things change.

Maybe after Christmas all of a sudden, Bacolo feels a little bit different and right, Okay, all right, let's figure something out with Reagan's but you're gonna have to give us a lot more.

There are avenues here.

We'll see if Duran ends up being a guy that can end up in Kansas City.

So before we get to the rest of the show here, we're gonna be talking about Cantel Marte and a couple of well a few free agents out there.

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Alright, Katel Marte, let's talk about Katel Marte.

Well, nothing is really bruin out there.

Nothing's bruined.

But we did have an update with the Diamondbacks this past weekend.

Merril Kelly going back to the Diamondbacks on a two year, forty million dollar deal.

And uh, I don't know if people were wondering, oh, bok okay, because they're paying him twenty million bucks a year, they could they maybe look to move the salary of Kutel Martin.

Well, I don't think that really has anything to do with it, really, But there was an update when it came to Marte's no trade list that includes the Athletics, the Yankees, the Pirates, the Giants, and the Cardinals.

Well, I mean, you know, the Giants, that was a team that I think could be a fit there.

The Pirates need bats any way, they could, and the Athletics, you know, they already got a bunch of young talent there.

I mean, could they have maybe pursued Marte?

Sure?

But and the Cardinals, I mean, the Cardinals aren't looking to make a move like that anyway, so I never considered them.

The Yankees obviously, they have jazz Chism there who's also been in the rumor mill.

So I didn't really see the Yankees getting involved there, you know, unless they I don't know, unless they moved Jazz back to third base, you did something with McMahon either.

I never really saw it as a fit.

It doesn't matter.

The Yankees aren't as no trade list, so good use for the Red Sox.

Theyre not on this list.

And listen, I've been I've been looking everywhere everybody.

I have been poking around as much as I can with a couple of little birdies that I have out there, and uh, not really much.

Right.

It was, I'll be honest, it was getting a little warm last week based off of one source that I spoke to.

I already talked about this.

Last week, I had a positive report on Martea.

I'm not really going to go deep into it because I had some pushback from other sources.

So I'd say, really, the conclusion that I came to with Marty and the Red Sox is there is dialogue happening, right.

I had one positive report, but then I had a couple pushback saying maybe not so fast here, right, We'll see what happens with Marte, but I do think he is a guy the Red Sox need to get here.

Right, We'll talk I'll get back to Marte.

Let's actually circle back to him, because we do have something else to talk about in just a little bit.

Before I do get to that topic, let's talk about a couple other free agents out there, and uh, Michael King.

Michael King.

This has been a name that people have been looking at over the last year or so because, you know, people knew he was gonna be going into free agency.

Here.

He didn't have a great year this past year.

He had some injuries.

You know, he was battling knee stuff, arm stuff.

It was just a you know, not a fun year for Michael King.

But fifteen starts, light was still okay at a three point four to four, the FIP was a full run higher at a four point four to two.

His strikeouts did go down, and he was giving up home runs.

But to me, the fact that his walk rate was still pretty healthy and his home run rate jumped.

I think the injuries just being on and off the field like that, he just wasn't fully in a rhythm.

Because Michael King has had a good history of keeping the ball in the yard.

He has a career home run rate under one home run per nine, and this past year it jumped up to a one point four to seven per nine.

So I'm not really too worried about the year that Michael King had.

I would say, really, it's just it's the injuries, right.

I would like to know that he's going to be healthy.

But this is interesting here.

I've talked about Michael King coming into the off season.

I thought going back to the Pasres was a sure thing, because obviously he's familiar there.

I would imagine he would like to restore his value.

But then we got reports of the Pasres saying, well, there might be some issues of the payroll.

Right, they did offer him the qualifying offer, but he wants what it looks like he's looking for a bit longer, right.

I thought maybe he could have taken the QO just again to rebuild value.

But let's say he's looking for a little bit more.

And according to reports from the Boston Globe, I believe from Pete Abraham, the Red Sox, Yankees and the Orioles are showing interest.

Now could this be the Red Sox being interest Kings.

I know everyone likes to throw that term around.

The Red Sox are the interest Kings.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, listen I'm not trying to sit here and defend the Red Sox and be a homer for the Red Sox.

But every team shows interest in everybody.

The Red Sox they just happen to be that big market team that you got all these guys at the Boston Globe, Mass Live.

They're always putting stuff out there, so it just so happens the Red Sox.

You're gonna hear more about them showing interest.

Right, It's just kind of how it is, right, big market team stuff gets leaked, right, But could this be another case where the Red Sox are poking around and then they end up coming up short in a way sort of reminds me of like Efflin a few years ago, Sorry to bring up a sore subject, when they lost out to the to the Rays.

For Eflin, I kind of just wonder, you know, here's the thing with the Red Sox, right, And this is where it's a little frustrating.

They are being so disciplined to the point where I actually can respect it because at least they're consistent.

But they are being very disciplined.

Go back even to last year, right, they don't just seem to want to go that extra mile, right, so I wonder if King is looking for like a three year deal, are they just going to offer him too.

It's like every free agent, right, it's always all right, that guy's getting four, all right, we'll offer or we'll offer him three.

Mac Freed got what was it seven years?

Okay, we'll offer him six or was it eight years?

I can't remember.

It's always like one less right.

The Red Sox, you know, they are at the point where they just do not want to budge, and they just don't wanna They don't want to give in right, and they want guys to come to Boston on their terms.

It's a little frustrating, right, But I just wonder if this is gonna be the case with King.

I wonder because of the injuries that he had last year, or the Red Sox really gonna push.

And you also think about the fact too that the Red Sox they have a lot of depth.

Is King that number two that they're looking for?

Because you also you think about the guys that maybe you could make a move for.

There's gonna be there's still guys out there.

Is King that number two that they feel like they want to investigates if you bring in King it's like, Okay, what else are we doing here?

You know, I don't know.

That's kind of where I have a little bit of pause.

And another report is that because he is a Rhode Island native and he went to Boston College, he would like to come to Boston.

But then I think again with the Red Sox, right, Oh, he wants to come here?

Okay, well he can come here on our terms.

I don't know do they meet him in the middle.

So it's interesting.

I wonder if King ends up coming here.

I could see the Orioles being a pretty good fit.

To be honest, I do think they need to take a chance on someone for the rotation out there.

But I wonder if King would want to go there.

You know, the Orioles have not been great when it comes to the development of pitching over the years.

You know, they've had a lot of injuries there, So is that a place he would want to go?

Would he take less money to possibly go to the Red Sox?

And he got the Yankees involved too, The Yankees are obviously familiar with him.

I don't know.

I'm not very confident with it.

I think it is possible.

I do think it can happen.

Because hey, you know what, the Red Sox.

I'm not trying to be biased here, but they have done well on the pitching side of things the last couple of years, and maybe this could be something for King.

Obviously Walker Bueller didn't work out, but maybe this could be kind of like sort of like that Walker Bueller signing.

Not really so much, because Bueller had fallen off quite a bit, right he had come back from Tommy John for a second time.

That was going to take a lot more work.

But King, there's definitely more of a floor there than Buehler, So I don't know, it's interesting.

I would like to have Michael King.

I just wonder where the Red Sox are at.

We'll see.

I think it could be a pretty fun signing.

I think that could definitely help out the rotation if he stays healthy, of course, but again I wonder if the Red Sox are maybe just shooting for more upside with the rotation.

I don't know, because they just have so many guys right now.

We'll see, we'll see.

But everybody, if you are with us on nesson, I do have to wrap it up right there.

We are going to stay here on YouTube.

We have one more story to talk about, and uh we have we have a couple more things to talk about.

So if you want to see the rest of the show, coming over to YouTube Mansa Territory and see what I gotta say.

But everybody on, nesson, I'll talk to see you next time.

But let's get back to the free agent news.

We have another one out there, Evan Phillips.

Evan Phillips, he was a very solid reliever for the Dodgers for a little while, putting up good numbers, but he had to get elbow surgery.

I believe UCL surgery not full was it?

No, No, he did get Tommy John.

Sorry, you got Tommy John.

So he's gonna be missing all of twenty twenty six, most likely coming back more for twenty twenty seven.

But the Red Sox they've been open to those kind of deals.

Did it with Liam Hendrix, Patrick Sandoval right where you signed him to like a two year deal and then then you just say, Okay, we'll see you next year, right, Evan Phillips, Hey, this is a guy who's had a lot of success.

He's got some good stuff.

Right, you go back to the last few years.

I mean, what of the Dodgers I mean, the guy was just lights out, very good strikeout numbers, pretty healthy walk rate, a guy that could absolutely be someone that could be a force at the back end of your bullpen if healthy.

Right, had a lot of success with the Dodgers.

So we'll see if the Red Sox do that.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Again, They've been one of them, you know, one of the teams and one of the few teams that have been opened to a deal like that.

Right, They've done it the last couple of offseasons.

So Evan Phillips I could see being a possibility.

Now let's get to the news that just came across the screen not too long ago.

And no, this wasn't from the Boston Globe.

No, this wasn't from Mass Live, the Boston and Harold jeff Passon Hayman.

It was actually from Jared Carabas and we got to take a look at this.

He says here, starting to get a little concerned about a Breggy reunion.

I don't know if you can see that on my screen?

Can you there?

Speaker 2

You go?

Speaker 1

Okay, you can see that better.

We talked about this in was it Friday?

When we went live last time.

At the winter meetings last week, I had a couple of conversations, A couple of conversations, one being I was told by someone that I trust very much they wouldn't be surprised that Bregman ended up going elsewhere.

I was told by someone else that the Cubs are definitely interested in Alex Bregman.

That's all I got on that.

But after kind of, you know, putting two and two together, I'm thinking, oh, man, that's the timing of these two things here.

H I don't know, I'm getting a little weird on Bregman.

I mean, I saw the tweet here from Jared and it just made me think back.

I even put it earlier today, I was responding to someone on Twitter saying, you know, hey, I'm I've actually got my eye on the Cubs.

To be honest, the Cubs, you might be wondering with them, Well, well, Robbie, they got Matt Shaw.

They got Shaw a third base.

Well here's the thing with Shaw, very athletic player.

Could you do a situation where he kind of moves around a little bit, Maybe you can put him in the outfield.

I mean, I know he got Ballistero's there in the DH spot.

But maybe you could do some kind of a I don't know, maybe they could do something there where, you know, Sayah goes more of a DH roll, you figure something out with ballasteros and then Shaw kind of moves around between the infield and the outfield.

I don't know, but here's the thing.

On paper.

It might not look like the most amazing fit.

But we just saw with the Orioles bringing Pete Alonzo, they had Kobe Mayo and Ryan Mountcastle on the major league roster.

So you're thinking, well, how are they going to add a first basement and Pete Alonzo?

Well, well they freaking did.

They did that, and then some five years one hungred what was it, fifty five million, So now they got three third basement on their roster.

So they got to figure out something with Mayo and Mountcastle.

Who knows what they do there.

Why couldn't the Cubs do that?

I mean, listen to Cubs Kyle Tucker going elsewhere most likely, I don't know if he's gonna be going back.

Seems to be the Dodgers in the Blue Jays for Tucker.

Really at this point, you know, maybe another team could jump in.

I don't think the Phillies are gonna jump in now.

They just brought in a Dully's Garcia, so I don't know if that's gonna happen.

I don't see Tucker going back to the Cubs unless maybe, like I don't know, they offer him, like, you know, the short term deal to come back.

But if they really wanted to put that money somewhere, they could give it to Bregman.

They made a push for Bregman last offseason, right, Yes, the Tigers they made the longest offer, but the Cubs they made them.

So they made a four year offer, right, I believe near thirty million per year.

I think it's gonna come down to the years here.

I see Bregman getting anywhere from twenty eight to thirty two million per year, somewhere in that range.

If the Cubs give him five year deal after he just made forty million bucks, you know.

So let's say he takes like a five year I don't know, a five year one forty five or something like that, that would end up being like a six year one eight five, right, which was I believe, which I believe was better.

Then uh, I just got distracted, which I think would What was the Tigers offer last year was like six years, one eighty something.

I don't know, but maybe the Cubs do that.

I mean, listen, they just made it to the postseason this past year.

They got knocked out by the Brewers.

This is a team where they got a lot of talent there, right, Who wouldn't want a guy, especially a team like the Cubs where they're in a window, Who wouldn't want a guy like Bregman to come to that team.

He's bringing playoff experience, he's bringing that postseason caliber kind of a player.

I could definitely see the Cubs because they showed interest last year and they could find a way to fit.

I talked to someone at the winter meetings and there is definitely interous on the Cubs side.

That's not even I'm not even reporting that the Cubs had a zoom meeting that was reported by someone else.

So hey, Max Freed had a zoom meeting with the Yankees last year that went well, and all of a sudden, Max Freed was a Yankee.

And getting back here to what I was just saying about the Red Sox, they don't seem to just want to budge on anything, right, this is our offer if you want to play for us, take it or leave it.

I mean, listen, if they're doing that, if they didn't want to go the extra mile for Alonso, I mean, I know Alonzo's different, he's on the outside right, Bregman was already here.

But listen, it's not like it's not like Craig would be lying to us.

Craig has said we are going to be disciplined, and he's been very consistent with it.

So if they're not gonna budge pass like a three year deal they gave they offered, I think the report was three years with an option for Alonso.

If they're only offering that for Bregman, who's around the same age coming off the quatt injury, and the Cubs offer him a four or five year deal flat, I don't know, man, I don't know.

Listen.

I if he ends up going elsewhere, I'm gonna feel pretty silly because I fell all year that Bregman was perfect in just so many ways.

But I figured the Red Sox would be a bit more flexible coming into this offseason.

You're in a competitive window, you would make, you know, a bit.

I don't wanna say effort.

I don't want to say that that's not the right word, but you know, push a little bit more.

I figured that maybe they would do that this time around, but based off of kind of what we saw there with the Alonso sweepstakes, and they met with Alonso too in person at the winter meetings.

They sat down with them and that was it.

You know, like, I don't know, I worry about the Cubs.

To be honest with you, you still got the Tigers.

I mean, what are the Tigers doing?

I mean, the Tigers doing anything.

I have no idea, but you know, the whole Schoobel thing is that something that comes into play if they do offer him something.

Does that come into play where Schooble, you know, having that guy long term that'd be really nice.

I don't know, man, I just think the Cubs they might have something cooking.

I haven't been told specifically that the Cubs are about to land him that.

I've not been told that, but I'm kind of just looking at the tea leaves.

I hope the Red Sox make an effort.

Right in the end, they made the effort to get Bregman to Boston.

Maybe they could do something different here, or maybe they could make a bit of a push.

Maybe that you know, how many times have we seen that over the years, right where it looks like a player is gonna go somewhere.

Look at Mark to Scherf it looked like he was coming to the Red Sox and then all of a sudden, I'm not sure.

I don't remember what the story was exactly.

I think what was it Someone in the Red Sox front office, I guess made him unhappy about something I don't I don't remember, and then he just went to the Yankees.

That's obviously different case, right, But we've seen many teams, you know, Aaron Judge, he looked like he was gonna be going to the Giants, right, and then Arsen Judge went to the Giants.

So maybe the Red Sox can actually make a push here in the end.

But like Jared said, I don't feel great about it.

Now, let's circle back to Cotel Marte.

This is where I think, man, you have you have got to bring this guy in.

You have got to make the trade Listen, if you don't want to spend the money, well then you got to use the assets that you have.

You have a lot of assets here.

I mean, I know a lot of people would not be happy trading Marcelo Meyer.

Well, here's the thing.

I wouldn't trade Meyer if you're not gonna get Bregman back.

I'm keeping Meyer absolutely.

But you know, you have a lot of young position player talent there.

You know, even someone like you know, Christian Campbell.

I hate to say that because I still think there's a lot of upside with him.

You got guys like Franklinarius that you could include, right, and obviously all the pitching.

I've talked about this a million times.

I'm not going to go into it further.

There's a million different ways I think you could acquire Marte.

It feels very similar to Crochet last year, where there's just so many roads.

Usually those teams that have more roads to get a deal done are the ones that end up getting that player, right.

I think the Red Sox have the best shot to get Marte.

They have so many guys they can include it in the deal, so many, so many.

Boba Schett.

Here's the thing.

I've said this before.

I have this weird sort of feeling about Boba Schett.

Here's the reason why, coming off a great year, good bounce back year, would move over to second base.

Most likely.

I'll be very honest with you, though, if the Red Sox did bring in Bushett that up the middle would scare me a little bit.

Bashett probably a better fit at second base, but I still wonder how is the defense gonna be.

Is it gonna be more just league average?

That's fine, you don't.

I don't necessarily think you need to have like a you know, Saydan Raphael at every single position.

Right, if you could play league average defense a second base, I'm okay with that.

You know a story he had some miscues towards the end of the year.

You kind of wonder about that.

You're right, But Bashett, if there was a guy you're gonna offer a contract to where you could well, I could see the Red Sox being like, all right, let's push a little bit more.

I wonder if Bushett could be that guy, because he's about to only turn twenty eight years old, so he's under thirty.

The Red Sox many times over the years they have made pushes for guys that are under thirty.

Right just brought up Mark to share he was under thirty when he went to the Yankees.

Right dice K back in two thousand and seven, who was another one.

They I'm leaving off someone on that list, right, I'm going blank.

But they tend to make more of a push for a guy where they're on the right side of thirty.

They seem to be hesitant.

And we actually just got the report not too long ago saying they don't want to give out long term deals.

I think that's more so they don't get locked up into stuff.

When these guys, you know, they're going into the thirty five thirty six year, and you know historically you tend to regress in those years.

Right.

Obviously there are guys out there that are still playing well at that age, but more often than not, you tend to see regression.

Right, So that's where with Bo.

I mean, listen, just about a turn twenty eight has a history, his family has a history in Boston.

They need an answer at second base.

Could it be him?

I'd love Boba Shet, I mean, listen, I'd love Bregman, but I would love Bo too.

I think bo could be a great fit with the Red Sox right right handed bat.

I could see him just attacking that monster constantly.

I think it'd be a great fit.

But will they go the extra mile?

I'll say this, I think there could be more of a chance that they offer him a stronger offer compared to what they offer Pete Alonzo or Bregman.

I wonder if they would push and wonder.

I think that the thing with Boushett is I wonder what the market is with him.

Obviously the Blue Jays, right, I think the reunion is still very possible.

But the Blue Jays are also in the Kyle Tucker mix, so I think those two correlate.

The Braves just brought back Hassan cam so I think you can cross them off as a possible landing spot.

I mean, the Dodgers, they seem to be all set.

I think of anything they land Tucker on a short deal.

I don't know.

I think that the Red Sox, I know, this offseason feels really weird because there were a lot of expectations coming into this offseason.

But it feels like to me they are just waiting stuff out, or they are trying to take that same approach that they did with JD.

Martinez, Right, they just waited them out Bregman two last year.

I wonder, you know, maybe they're trying to they feel like they have a good read on the market.

And listen at the winter meetings.

I had heard that the Red Sox are definitely interested in Bashet, So we'll see.

You still got Kazuma Okamoto, you got Munataka Murakami.

I think either of those guys could fit very well with the Red Sox.

I mean, yes, they're unknowns, they are question marks coming over from Japan.

Okamoto I think has more of a floor.

Murakami I think has more of a ceiling because of the power potential.

But I could see the Red Sox liking either of these guys right.

Okamoto's gonna give you that versatility, that right handed bat that should fit well at Femiway Park.

Munataka Murakami, he's got the big left handed power that has the ability to clear that right field in Famiway Park.

Get them into their organization, into their system.

Maybe they feel like they can improve that plate discipline.

I wonder if they could be an option.

And I'll say this right now.

My number one guy is could tell Martek I think he is at the top of the list.

I think you need to figure out a way to bring him in right, whether you bring back Bregman or not.

To me, I think Marte is a guy you figure that out.

No brainer.

I mean, coming off a great year, twenty eight Homer is a one forty five WRC plus a four point six at four overall.

Yeah, there were some clubhouse issues.

Who knows what exactly that was.

But Marte, to me, I think is an absolute no brainer for the Red Sox, right listen, if it ends up being bo I mean, I think the Red Sox I think they would prefer Bow prefer Marte.

That's my hunch.

Maybe I'm wrong on that.

Who knows mart or Bashett does have the advantage when it comes to the age, but Marte is on the cheap deal, so that's kind of the difference there.

But if you bring in Bushett, well you're not doing You're not doing Marte.

So listen, I'm gonna be I'm gonna say this right now.

I am preparing myself for a world without Alex Bregman.

I'm preparing for it.

Could you see if they were to bring in two bats, which I do think they're going to.

I think they're going to.

I think they're just waiting this market out.

Maybe that ends up being a stupid line on my part at some point down the down the road.

I do believe two bats will be in Boston at some point.

Could that be Marte and then Kazuma Okamoto.

Could that be Bashett and Munataka Murakami, could be Marte and Murakami, whatever it may be.

I think there's two bats.

I think there's gonna be two bats.

I'm also gonna say this.

I'm also gonna say this.

Nah, I don't okay, you know, I was.

I was.

I was thinking, you know what, maybe that could be a possibility.

I was even thinking about guys like Ryan O'Hearn or even I'm sorry, I'm sorry to do this.

I don't say that's not fair.

But Paul gold Schmidt, Paul Goldschmidt, I that would I think Red Sox fans would probably flip out over that one, because he is getting towards the end of his career.

Big fan of Paul Goldschmidt.

But I wonder if he ends up being like a cheaper option for the Red Sox at some point.

I don't know, we'll see.

I think, though, they need to get Marte.

If it's not Marte, you gotta go get a shit.

And then I would not mind at all one of these Japanese bats.

I know Masa.

He's had his issues, but I think Okamoto fits very well with the Red Sox at Firmway Park.

And I think Murakami that power profile is just so interesting to where if they brought him in, I'd be I'd be pretty excited about it, to be honest.

Listen, the guy hits absolute frickin' dingers man, and that's the kind of power from the left side that you want at Femway Park.

We'll see, I see when the chat Phoenix, Paradis makes no sense.

Paradus could be an option as well.

I think he's lower on the totem pole for me.

I think his bat fits well at Femway.

I don't know.

I feel like the Astros would rather move Christian Walker because he's on that contract.

Paratus is a lot cheaper, I don't know, you know, And they got Paradus in that trade for Tuckers, so I feel like a part of them would like to keep him, you know, they got him and cam Smith.

We'll see what the Astros do, but I think Paradis could be an option.

We'll see what happens here, But everybody, I'm gonna wrap it up right there.

That is all we got we had over three hundred people for most of the show here tonight.

Do appreciate that, really do a lot of familiar faces here still with us in the end.

Appreciate all of you, and we've got a super chat Bay Socks Bombs full ninety nine.

Why do I have a feeling the Dodgers may be secretly in on Bregman?

Hmm?

Could the Dodgers be in on Bregman?

I don't know.

I don't know about that one because you brought Muncie back, so I don't know.

I mean, the Dodgers, You're always gonna be scared about them for everyone, But I don't know about that one.

I think they're I think they're probably all set there.

I think if they can get Tucker on a short term deal, that's where I think they'll go.

I think I wouldn't worry about the Dodgers or Bregman, but it is the Dodgers.

You can never you can never turn a blind eye.

But thank you for the super chat, my friend.

Do appreciate that.

Everybody.

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