[SPEAKER_00]: M-S-W-M-E-E-M-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E [SPEAKER_00]: Hello booty gang, welcome back to another episode, but honestly, this week we have a booty gangster dealing with a net burst reaction to Doxie Pett.

[SPEAKER_00]: A text from another person who drained their nut, and someone else who tried to call me out.

[SPEAKER_02]: But first, this is your reminder that but honestly is an 18 and over podcast for adult listeners.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's talk like a couple adults and open chat.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was a nice, going to your holiday party.

[SPEAKER_00]: I opened it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I, like, the door was locked and I, you know, rang the door, but I was the first person there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I wanted to make sure that I got to my own office party which was the exact same time about three miles away.

[SPEAKER_03]: How do you keep happening?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's two years the same day as ours.

[SPEAKER_00]: We always do it on a Friday, you always do it on a Friday.

[SPEAKER_00]: We usually do it the first weekend of the holiday month of December, but this year just got moved back to the second one.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, showed up, it brought Alex and my friend Rob along with me and it was lovely, it was beautifully set up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You guys had the tacos go in, you had nitrogen ice cream in the corner, you had a beautiful bar and the bar the drinks were great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there was one other thing that was going on over there that was kind of a sweet treat to death that I forgot.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's more, it's more, yeah, that was it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, lots of cool people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I get, I got to talk to Ian for the first time in months.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then at the meeting Alice and Jill, the founder of our, [SPEAKER_00]: media corporation was phenomenal as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, our network.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a W media.

[SPEAKER_02]: So under Allison Gill aka Mueller.

[SPEAKER_02]: She wrote aka the daily beans.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just blown up because now she's doing things like, you know, for like occupying Democrats and that sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she's fucking huge right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's a big deal super inspiring.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it was nice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I do love throwing that party.

[SPEAKER_02]: We had 150 people there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, really, like, as the evening, like, carried on.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was a long day.

[SPEAKER_02]: And my body was, I was dealing with it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like these things that happen when you remind yourself, like, I am getting older.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I mean, like, it's like...

[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to it, honey.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm getting worse.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because I got up on that on the day of, [SPEAKER_02]: Um, got up, walked the dogs, had a couple of things I needed to do on the computer, and then it was like, go.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I stood from about 9.30 in the morning until about 1 a.m.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was standing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'd really sat down maybe twice that whole entire time, and I could feel it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I am in need of a massage.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, of a nice back ribs, something like that, but it was awesome.

[SPEAKER_02]: We took in so many toys for VISTA Hills, parent care, recovery center, which is pretty amazing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't just try to make it like a vanity party, but we actually do like a toy drive every year.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the amount of stuff that people brought, I haven't even checked to see where the donations ended up.

[SPEAKER_02]: huge.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice to like make a big, make a big impact in a difference with friends and colleagues and you know, all that sort of a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's sad that Dr.

Tony was sick.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he wasn't there, but um, that's actually one of my neighbors, if anybody can hear that, I mean, from just one off.

[SPEAKER_02]: But one of my neighbors just texts like a thanks so much for [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to think like there was nothing really that nothing really went went wrong.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't get to see hot neighbor.

[SPEAKER_02]: He was there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, damn it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I missed it.

[SPEAKER_02]: This hot neighbor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I bolted out of there pretty quickly around 720 so I could get to my party because I'm supposed to, I do the speech every year for the, for the staff.

[SPEAKER_02]: You showed up and I wasn't even out yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just went to take a shower because dealing with everything else.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so I Anthony I let him go and then I was like switch rolls.

[SPEAKER_02]: You stand out there and I will go take a shower and get myself ready.

[SPEAKER_00]: Post of the, a post of the picture that I took of you and I on blue sky.

[SPEAKER_00]: and in our stories, and I sent it to you, I think, didn't I?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did it, maybe you can post that?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think so, so I'll post it on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, somewhere in a sparkly, sequin jacket and my, no cause we had this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: No cowboy, had this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Crystal and Crested product shoes, which was amazing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love those.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those are my 50th birthday gift that I got myself.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like, you're dressed like Ryan Stone Cowboy, without a hat.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, they're dressed like a hallmarked dad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't like worth the same party at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's cool to be just do what you do.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to host your Shindig.

[SPEAKER_00]: God, it's been at the same venue for the last five years with the same exact pattern of everything that we do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Our staff is amazing.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have a section of Middle Eastern workers as well because we do have a clinic in the section of town where most of our Iraqi and Afghani patients are for y'all dance and yeah so we had we had a DJ and the [SPEAKER_00]: And the DJ would play a really upbeat Mexican or a Spanish-type song, and all the young staff will get out of the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: I start going crazy, and then he would change over to something R and B, and they would leave.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wait.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have something to say real quickly because I didn't before it before I forget.

[SPEAKER_02]: So with our party, you know, we handed up, we had live music this year, um, and was letting people, like if you want to go up and sing with the guitarist and that, and so, [SPEAKER_02]: that was happening and we had a bunch of musicians like you know that the have that are in house and some people bring their plus ones and everything else.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there was one of the moments where I got to like, I went and grab some tacos and was like housing them because it was just like take a moment eat something.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I got stuck in a conversation with somebody that I've never had a speaking engagement with, I've never talked to.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it became one of the, and this is just reminded me because of you saying that you have Middle Eastern and Latino people and that next and all that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And in this situation, like she was white white, [SPEAKER_02]: And some of the stuff that she was saying, like, I know she doesn't have a bad heart, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: And she's not like, mega, but the thing is that she was saying things that it was like, I was like, you know, when you like look around, like is any past hearing this, yeah, it was those kind of things and it was just like, you know, it was like, oh, you are so sheltered like you really have to leave.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're a couple of San Diego like wherever you know, wherever you are living, you need to leave the country club and go experience some other people and other culture.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, honestly, honestly, yeah, and San Diego, such a melting pot, just such a great mix of people here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can see 10 people from 10 different countries all in a row in my office.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that's one of the things I'm concerned about lately, like I saw a patient the other day and it was from one of those countries that [SPEAKER_00]: that Trump really started railing on about being a shithole country, and there's this person's here, and doesn't have citizenship yet, but has, um, but is in the legal process.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I know, one of my friends who's who's, who's in Chicago and who's dad has been as [SPEAKER_00]: naturalization service like to get his certificate in Chicago and because he's been as well and they canceled it immediately didn't let him get it and well you've seen this like that now they're bringing these people in like Christina how to go answer the Congress.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, recently this week and we're seeing that, you know, have any US, you know, have any US citizens been arrested?

[SPEAKER_02]: Have any service?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, no, there is.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then they like shit right there.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, bam, here's a video of somebody that you sent back to Korea who is, you know, American citizen.

[SPEAKER_02]: American citizen, American war veteran, who's been shot twice for America and he sent them back.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like, [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just feeling more and more like okay the other shoe has to drop here at some point.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're getting to that point because you know it's finally it's it's not being all swept under the rug all the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I got to I got to say it's been really stressful for me to you know like to go into work and to see these patients and think am I ever going to see them again?

[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that way.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that way with different people [SPEAKER_02]: I want to save, like, who these people don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like just.

[SPEAKER_02]: But like, it's just, it's that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's somebody who was late to where they were supposed to be.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, oh, did something happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, it's so sad that that's like one of my first thoughts.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, is this person still even in the United States at this moment?

[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it sucks because even people who are, you know, doing their legal paperwork for asylum and all that sort of thing, they are being sent back and it's like, it's against the law, you know, so it's just we're seeing that, I mean, there's going to be so many lawsuits when this regime has gone and like it's just it's going to be wild.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: changing gears.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did go to grid.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, would you go to?

[SPEAKER_00]: I did I did go to another party last night.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and that was really fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and uh, and the banker still area.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was maybe going to go to that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was invited to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Tony too, but he didn't show up and I had to tell him.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was at an apartment up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a cute part of you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed it.

[SPEAKER_00]: They had a bartender who was dressed up as sexy Santa.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think kept changing his outfit every like 30 or 40 minutes.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was cute.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you know who he was?

[SPEAKER_00]: Very strong.

[SPEAKER_00]: I took a picture with him at a dormer's name.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the picture, I want to see if I know the person.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got, you know, I walked through the door on the hand me [SPEAKER_00]: 30 minutes because I'm not much of a drinker.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I spent the day being like productive because I have to pack because I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I was doing all the laundry, everything else.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then I realized like it was like late and I was like, shit, there was a party that I should have went to because I love them.

[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think part of listener, they're listening.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're probably listening right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it was a great party.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you only invite people with big asses to this party?

[SPEAKER_00]: Cause there's some juicy butts in here and he goes, tell me about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that butt, look at that butt, look at that butt, look at that butt.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like a cute Middle Eastern guy comes over and he goes, look at that butt and then he end up in the Eastern guy just slips his pants down so I can see his ass.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh yeah, now we're talking.

[SPEAKER_02]: What a gay party.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was not the party that I threw out.

[SPEAKER_02]: My party is so hallmark slash real housewives and you were like in a total, you know, and it's been a course party.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, and of course, I don't get out a whole lot because I'm I work a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on, you know, I'm on a busy travel schedule and we're kind of out in the suburbs.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, people would come in the door and I would say hi.

[SPEAKER_00]: My name isn't like, oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I met you at a party in Palm Springs in 2018.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's my problem, like it's like it's like, it's always that thing of like, um, the genum erroney 30 rock thing of like, when you meet somebody new who you've already met and you're just to meet you.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, you know, like we met you four times already.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's like it feels like such a dig on somebody when you're just like, oh, it's so good to meet you and like I was here last year.

[SPEAKER_02]: So like I had a couple of those at my my event, you know, like people people's plus ones.

[SPEAKER_02]: it's all right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, before we take a break, give the people your yes to go.

[SPEAKER_02]: How is that all going?

[SPEAKER_02]: How's the injection site?

[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on with yes to go in your life?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I had pain at the injection sites for about eight days.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just superficial pain, nothing scarier and you like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's real quickly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, this is the new injectable prep that you only do every six months, Dr.

Carlton is now started this.

[SPEAKER_02]: So back a couple episodes and you guys will hear more of his experience.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's why I wanted to see what's the uptake that you had.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, so I went in and that first day got the two capsules and the shot on each side of my abdomen and it had two capsules to take the next day and then seven days later, I'm supposedly clear for play without condoms.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so on day eight, the pain went away from my, um, abdominal area.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gully the only thing that's different is I can feel, but time little pieces and lumps underneath my skin and the lower abdomen.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I've got plenty of abdominal fat to kind of cover that out.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not visible.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can only just kind of feel it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it is a kind of, it is kind of weird to like rub your hand across your belly and feel too little lumps there, knowing that they're going to dissolve over time.

[SPEAKER_00]: But [SPEAKER_00]: But that's where the medicine is.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the, the birth control for people with the giant.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like a North Planned, or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So basically, I haven't had any new symptoms at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not having bleeding.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not having nausea.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not having weight loss.

[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, you know, I have diarrhea or anything like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's pretty, I'm pretty symptom free from it right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get some tricky dicks in you and see how you know I'm going to go and I have had no new dicks in me in a long time so I need to get to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: See you guys some strange.

[SPEAKER_00]: Although I did I do I do I did plan a little we can get away from Palm Springs in the middle of January like I did last year during MLK weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I might should be fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the same place.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking about doing New York around then.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, see.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then there was the event hands down the hand holding hands and hollies.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold holding hands and palm sprints.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, the other thing about that though was I'm maybe going to Chicago at the end of the month.

[SPEAKER_00]: There, I haven't heard for sure, but the end of January, I might be going out there for an event.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, although I'm not exactly the most thrilled to go to Chicago and the freezing cold winter, but I'll go, I'll go just to get out of here, you know, just to do something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it would be good.

[SPEAKER_02]: Go experience and cold weather, you know, get all bound up and everything and be that we want to be the little Eskimo people for that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll accept a thought, a steamworks or something, something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, [SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, like, yeah, I'm going to Miami.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so we'll be out there for a lot of del Miami, Wilton, Manor, there's North Miami Beach.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be on all those little areas and like the next week, so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys are around there, hit me up or get in my DMs and tell me what's going on before Christmas, essentially.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then I will be back here in San Diego for our final sucia of the year.

[SPEAKER_02]: the dumpster fire of 2025, you know, so we're doing a post-Christmas before New Year's Eve, so it's kind of like the nice little sweet spot between sort of redoing one of those.

[SPEAKER_02]: And okay, so maybe I'll say something here.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be one of our last events at this venue.

[SPEAKER_02]: Wow yeah the venue right now it's looking like they might be selling in the next couple of months and so yeah so we'll be looking for a new home for the party so we'll see how that goes we'll keep you guys uptated but please do show up and so we'll have tons of heaters and all that kind of [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be back for that and then I'm going to be home for New Year's Eve.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no real plan at this moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of got invited to a, it's like Sparty that night.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually, it's, I know it's, it's a, it's a New Year's Eve party, but it's like, and at the invitation says, come however you like, formal, you know, whatever, or leather, whatever you want, and then in the bottom corner it says dark room provided.

[SPEAKER_00]: Only that but the thing is it's like here's he was like usually like go have a nice meal, you know, and yeah, and people drink, yeah, I'm they went and they went you to end the year with the bang, but that's like I'm I need to end the year with the bang actually so that's okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, let's go take some but dials and booty calls right after this break will be right back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Dr.

Carlton, this one, uh, something I know a little bit about, [SPEAKER_02]: talk about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the subject is, fixed drug eruptions with DoxyPap.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Dr.

Carlton and Danjelo.

[SPEAKER_02]: First, thank you for all you do for our community and putting the podcasts together to help educate.

[SPEAKER_02]: Second, I was hoping to get some insight into a recent issue I've been experiencing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Earlier this year, I noticed after having some fun and taking my DoxyPap that I had three red blotches on my face.

[SPEAKER_02]: One of the bridge of my nose next to my right eye, one of the upper part of my eyelid and my left eye, and one on my left cheek just at the top of my beard line.

[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't sure what it was, but it went away after about a week and I'm prone to having an acne breakout every now and again.

[SPEAKER_02]: I recently took another dose of doxypep after another bit of fun and noticed the same three spots.

[SPEAKER_02]: I finally connected the dots, no pun intended.

[SPEAKER_02]: I had an appointment with my PCP that just happened to coincide with these red spots.

[SPEAKER_02]: They looked at them and after discussion with me told me they were fixed drug eruptions.

[SPEAKER_02]: luckily they are just red spots.

[SPEAKER_02]: He did attach and pictures for us.

[SPEAKER_02]: We will not be posting those, because we're in keep him anonymous.

[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes, scab over, they are just red spots.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they sometimes scab over, but they are not like some of the images that they showed me.

[SPEAKER_02]: purplish and bulbous.

[SPEAKER_02]: They said as long as they didn't bother me and I was okay with possible discoloration in those three areas, I could continue to use it as there is in another option for DoxyPap.

[SPEAKER_02]: I did some searching and there isn't really any other option.

[SPEAKER_02]: I could find for Doxy, but there is a potential for like an allergic reaction or something that could cause morese.

[SPEAKER_02]: But is there [SPEAKER_02]: wait, he put a question mark here.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I did some searching and there isn't really anything other options I could find for Doxy.

[SPEAKER_02]: But is there a potential for like an allergic reaction or something that could cause more serious issues?

[SPEAKER_02]: Question mark.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is this common?

[SPEAKER_02]: Question mark.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just annoying having these three spots in my face for a week or so every time I want to have fun and need to take a dose of DoxyPap.

[SPEAKER_02]: Signed a concerned bear in the [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so what pacific Northwest Concern Bayer is talking about here, and thank you for the question, and this is really important because with this about the fifth person that's messaged me or you or the podcast directly about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's definitely something that's happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fixed drug corruption and doxycycline does happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: Doxy is a known trigger [SPEAKER_00]: It's a delayed hypersensitivity reaction that reappears in the exact same spot each time the drug is taken.

[SPEAKER_00]: Leachens usually appear hours today's after exposure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Typically, they are well-defined, round or oval patches or plaques.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like a dusky red, violacious or even a brown.

[SPEAKER_00]: They may blister or erode, often they're burning or itchy and sometimes painful.

[SPEAKER_00]: Common sites include the lips, [SPEAKER_00]: It heals with residual hyperpigmentation.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like he talked about his doctor said you can keep using it, but if you may as long as you don't, you're not concerned about a dark spot happening there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what the hyperpigmentation thing is.

[SPEAKER_00]: So doxie can cause it FDE as kind of their tetracyclins, like minus cyclone and tetracyclin and there's cross-reactivity possible so that if you're having it with doxie, you probably shouldn't take the entire tetracyclin class.

[SPEAKER_00]: unless you're devaluated by anologist or dermatologist.

[SPEAKER_00]: The diagnosis is primarily clinical with history, taking the drug and having a recurrence at the same site.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could have a skin biopsy if you want to be a little bit more invasive about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then re-challenging with the drug is generally not recommended due to risk, depending on how severe the spots are.

[SPEAKER_00]: Management is immediate discontinuation of the doxycycline using topical steroids for localized lesions, oral anti-histamines for itching, things like binocidal or divinhydramine or clarinetin, those sorts of things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Severe cases need systemic steroids, we're actually in that that's where it's like the blisters up, you know, they get really big and bold bulbous and blistery like he had said that they had shown him pictures of.

[SPEAKER_00]: Document clearly as a drug allergy in your medical record so that physicians know that and in the future and don't try to give you that for something else more long-term.

[SPEAKER_00]: Usually it resolves over days the weeks, hypermint pigmentation can last for months or longer and recurs rapidly if the drug is re-exposed.

[SPEAKER_00]: So basically the key counseling point here is that if you ever see the same dark red patch come back in the same spot after taking a medication, stop the drug and see care.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now, the more serious stuff that he talked about is Steven's Johnson syndrome, or Eric theme of multi-forming or contact dermatitis, where it would, like, Steven's Johnson's your whole body can blister up, and it can be like life-threatening.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so if you're not just having a few little isolated spots, I mean, if you're, if you're having just a few little isolated spots, it's not bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so, you know, like with any medication, things happen right, you know, I've looked into how frequently this happens and it's actually pretty rare as less than 1% of people exposed to doxycycline, have it likely well under 0.5% but with the number of guys on doxycycline right now, if it's happening 0.5% when in 200 of you taking doxypeb, may see these little spots.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just something to be aware of.

[SPEAKER_00]: And again, remember, DoxyPep is the anti-bacterial regimen that we give to people to take within 24 out of 72 hours after a high risk exposure with unprotected sex.

[SPEAKER_00]: High risk-comprotected sex, usually in a non-monogamous, with a non-monogamous partner.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you go to the bath house, you come home, you wake up the next morning, [SPEAKER_00]: and your syphilis and chlamydia risk drop significantly if you do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, as more people take this, we may hear them that the actual numbers go up because, you know, there is a certain fixed percentage that this happens in.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, just be aware of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Among all of the adverse coutaneous drug reactions at DE accounts for about 5 to 10 percent, but doxycycline is actually not a leading cause of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's much more common with back trim, which is our sulfonamides.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be profaniproxin fluoroquine alones and metronitis all.

[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually had this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I had a fixed job with a drug eruption.

[SPEAKER_02]: God, about two years ago now.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was intense.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to the doctor, then went to a dermatologist.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a whole issue that I had because.

[SPEAKER_02]: um mine were not like when um this listener sent his pictures in he's a little bit more fair skin uh white dude and he has like i would say they're kind of like the size of like a uh of a pencil a pencil eraser you know like a number two pencil eraser the guy who sent us the pictures today and they are pink you know what i mean but they aren't like super you know um [SPEAKER_02]: If you weren't really looking for them on his face, I don't think you would really notice them necessarily, you know?

[SPEAKER_02]: Especially if he was a little bit more pink in the face.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like if he just ran somewhere, came in from the corner.

[SPEAKER_02]: But what I had actually, it was a fixed rubber eruption.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was on the underside of my balls on my sack.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it was about the size of a good silver dollar.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was, and it was purple, and it was raised, and it hurt, it burned.

[SPEAKER_02]: What drink was it?

[SPEAKER_02]: So we ended up going through and eliminating a bunch of things out of my diet and at that time, um, I was really into taking supplements.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and one of the things that one of my doctors, you know, described to me was this could he was asking have you taken a lot of doxie, you know, and it was like, no, because that wasn't really a thing at this time, you know, right, you know, because this is about two years ago, and then we went through, you're taking a lot of aspirin taking a lot of ibuprofen right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: know not so much because I was limiting that because of, you know, blood flow of blood.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then he was like, well, what else you're taking?

[SPEAKER_02]: And we went through my chart.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I was doing a lot of supplements vitamin C, B12, you know, nice and blah, blah, like I was taking a lot of, you know, multi vitamin is blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And a couple of the ones that I have been taking, I had changed that they had changed their formula, a parent.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And he explained to me that and I don't know how true this is is what a doctor told me so I don't want you guys to like run and say this is the truth, but this is the truth that he told me what is is in the experience that I had was that a lot of times when it comes to supplements.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the same kind of rigorous testing that actual uh, they don't at all actually.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: The over-the-counter drugs and that sort of thing have and they can change their chemistry when they want to at whim.

[SPEAKER_02]: So if all of a sudden if the, you know, if the, um, if the capsule that my drug came in, [SPEAKER_02]: you know, got a little bit more expensive, they can change the capsule coding, you know, and you something else.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so something that I was taking in that time, and it could have been one of my men's one daily, you know, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: It could have been one of those.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we ended up, [SPEAKER_02]: discontinuing, uh, almost all of those supplements that I was on and then just keeping me on like, you know, just doing like a vitamin C and like fish oil.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then everything else that I had been in in my system, we put it to the back burner.

[SPEAKER_02]: that introduced a couple things in and the spot went away and some things I never picked back up.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it had to have been either the men's multivitamin or the biotin pill that I was taking.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of those two because there's only two things that I have never taken again.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was harsh, it was hurt, you know, it was the underside of my balls.

[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you know, if I put it like on a cock ring, you know what I mean that like went around everything, it would annoy that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was also first it was like scary.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, what is this?

[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like a lesion, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they explain, you know, like, let's eliminate all these things before we do a skin biopsy because a skin biopsy can be, especially in that area can be quite invasive.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, when they have to take like a little circle of skin.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, your sack and then do little stitches and all that sort of thing and then you have to like keep it clean and keep it.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, not more.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we didn't have to go to that extreme.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they did prescribe me the topical steroid that I was on.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say two different medications I cannot remember the name of them at this moment.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it was this whole situation that I had there from taking these other drugs.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so if it was something like [SPEAKER_02]: with this call or with with a sentence to us with the small red dot.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think I wouldn't have been as concerned, but this was like bigger at hurt.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I, um, it just I couldn't wear certain kind of underwear.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: If I was wearing like a span dexie kind of an underwear or something with a little more late text or anything dot in it, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, [SPEAKER_02]: So it's something I think a lot of people go through and yeah, like how you're saying that now that we're using doxie more for recreational purposes that we're doing, you know, we might see more of this come out.

[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, how many people are on doxie for acne?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been a pretty low, a low event rate.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it still happens and it's something for people to be aware of.

[SPEAKER_00]: And especially if [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or if you're concerned about hyperpigmentation in this in this in the spot that part so we are going to come back with a couple more questions right after this break now we're back okay we are back somebody is calling out doctor C do you want to read this is it is a voice mail or is it a no it's a text is a text that we okay calling out doctor C wow [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of us, a lot of us, and a lot of us, a lot of us.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think to call out Dr.

Carlton, when you were doing the Grindron Rapt, you said that San Diego is a hard place to make friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is absolutely not true, and so many friends and acquaintance from other cities say that San Diego is very friendly.

[SPEAKER_00]: It has been posted on many LGBT articles that San Diego is the friendliest city.

[SPEAKER_00]: I also need to point out that Dr.

Carlton has a very robust [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so how can he say it is hard to make friends?

[SPEAKER_00]: Stand low, bat me up on this.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just said last episode that you were so thankful for your family and friends in San Diego, was it hard for you to make friends in San Diego?

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: So let's address this from a bigger world kind of a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Cassandiego is its own beast, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I think we have a lot of people that listen in Southern California, but I think in any bigger metro city, here he is.

[SPEAKER_00]: It can be difficult to make friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it really depends on your availability and where you live in the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: and what your social situation is, and no, not all of this is on San Diego, a lot of this is on me because of some of those factors, but also keep in mind that friendly doesn't need doesn't necessarily mean you make deep friendships.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people are nice, and there's a very nice city, people are very, and you meet people from other well-known gay places, and you immediately, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like certain sections of LA and stuff like that where people like, oh, yeah, that's totally a wee how guy, you know, yeah, you don't have that here in San Diego for the most part.

[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of, for the most part, yeah, it happens.

[SPEAKER_02]: But you have circuit heads.

[SPEAKER_02]: You have like, you're left or a little bit of everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So basically, for me, you know, friendly does not mean you have a lot of friendships or are the depth of friendships that you have.

[SPEAKER_00]: San Diego is a very transient city.

[SPEAKER_00]: People come here, you get attached them, and then like two years later, they're gone.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're military school, yeah, working in a job that's kind of like temporary or they get any real self looking expensive it is to live here and they go somewhere else.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think for me my situation and because it's saying that it's been hard to make friends is because I'll live out in the suburbs and because I was a dad I am a dad that I've you know had kids that required a lot of attention until just a few years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't you know I didn't have a whole lot of time for friendships, but now I do and and I think.

[SPEAKER_00]: Location location location like I'm out here in the suburbs if I want to if I want to have a bunch of friends I have to go to the gay section Hillcrest of town You know, yeah, and and do all the traveling I do have a great house with a great pool.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have pool parties and stuff like that and it's fun and stuff But it's not like like the other day Alex was like, oh, hey, you know We're kind of bored, you know, it's Friday night won't you call some people to come over and play board games or something I'm like Alex [SPEAKER_00]: It's six o'clock on Friday night.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think doesn't have R&R to have plans?

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the real is?

[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll honestly though, I think you could call people because like somebody like me, like I would be down for something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like it's a little bit of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think the other part of it too, something that you mentioned when we had text messages about what we were gonna put in the show this week.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, [SPEAKER_02]: I think sometimes quantity and quality, yeah, a friend is a big thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I know a lot of people, I've been in the night life industry in San Diego for over 10 years.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there are a lot of people that have come across my life and through my path and your fans, sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That part.

[SPEAKER_02]: Those are even friends.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know their names.

[SPEAKER_02]: But like, but when it comes to like the actual like friendships that I've made here, is that yeah, like I think there's a lot of people who I care for, I have adoration for.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I can say that I consider this person a friend, but in all actuality, I mean, like, [SPEAKER_02]: They're more of an acquaintance, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great place to make acquaintances.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then decide of like, you know, like, yeah, I was, you know, very thankful on like the Thanksgiving episode for like my friends and my family that are that I've made here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, those weren't necessarily easy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, [SPEAKER_02]: Those were kind of friendships to make I made those friendships to a lot of those people who are very like an Ian who's very important in my life, you know, I mean it's one of my best friends.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I made him as if we we became friends like over 10 years ago probably something like that and it took time for us to build up to the friendship that we have now.

[SPEAKER_02]: because of we're both in relationships.

[SPEAKER_00]: We both know that sort of that's another thing if you're in a relationship it's a little more difficult to have a lot of close close friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: It can be candy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it can be because the thing is you really do have to water your own garden before you run out there a lot of times.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so when it came to like how did I make friends here in San Diego?

[SPEAKER_02]: was, um, and I've had different friend groups.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can say that here in San Diego as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: And some of them have been trans yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some people I just don't talk to anymore because they're interested different, you know, and, uh, like Ian came to me because I became really good friends with this girl named Joelle, who, um, and it was because of Twitter.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was my best friend in Ohio when I was [SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, my best friend was, you know, a beta tester for Apple and all that sort of a thing, and I was going to move out here, and the only person I really knew was my partner, the person who I was in relationship with, who I'm still in a relationship with now, but it was like, okay, you're going to move cross country, you're going to move, you know, and when you get there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I had to find friends outside of my relationship.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it couldn't be people that like Anthony's introducing me to, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like I had to find my own, you know, uh...

[SPEAKER_02]: cheering section in the sense and my friend told me go go and Twitter.

[SPEAKER_02]: He was like Twitter is like happening in San Diego.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is like 2009 and he's like, you know, get on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the number one city San Diego is growing faster than anybody else on this platform.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I went on and was using the hashtags and everything and I found like a little bit of a tribe and this is back when they were doing like Twitter meetups and that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And Joelle was one of the first people I found on there via my friend one because they were friendly and then I found other people like my friend Mike and then eventually Joelle was high school friends with Ian and Joelle was also really good friends besties with [SPEAKER_02]: Dr.

Allison from MSW, you get in a mean like yeah, so it was like I had one person who was kind of a force multiplier in my friend Joelle who kind of brought all these other people into my life Who I'm friends with but then there's certain people that you kind of become closer to and that you kind of [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you call to vape things with, you know what I mean, like Ian's like my my Disney friend, you know, he went with me and my mom and my aunts, you know, like the as to go to like Disney land so like, you know, not I can't call everybody to do that, oh, like I have exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have like, that's what I miss and that's what I meant when I when I was saying like I'm in like really deep friends that I can call and say I'm in the hospital, can you come see me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think if for the people like for somebody who maybe is saying that you know that they needed [SPEAKER_02]: Or like in this in this sense, you know, that we're opening the door right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: So please do AMLs or questions about friendships and like visualizing and that sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's a couple different factors that go on here with as gay men, when you become friends with another gay man, are you just friends?

[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to be talking?

[SPEAKER_02]: Are you, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like what is the chemistry level that's in two of you have?

[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of us actually meet people, we've by fucking them first.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then becoming friends and then the sex part dies.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is friendship from there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've noticed that a lot too, you know, for me, I have to take personal responsibility in my lack of deep friends because I have had, you know, I'm watering my own garden for us with my husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have a lot of travel that I do a work all the time and I live in the suburbs.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of it is on my situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now if I live in Hillcrest, moving like the middle of Gatown, it would probably be a lot easier to connect with people a lot more frequently.

[SPEAKER_00]: But because I can't connect with people that frequently, [SPEAKER_00]: it's harder to increase the depth of the friendships.

[SPEAKER_02]: But even in that sense of things, because I live in like the heart of it all.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say that the people who I connected with 10 years ago, the guy who I was in cub club with, that we were synonymous with being together all the time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And for various different reasons, we have fallen out of friendship with each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't invite them over.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't invite me over.

[SPEAKER_02]: And one of those reasons was it's like, we were nightclub friends.

[SPEAKER_02]: We were friends when we were all working towards nightclub stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: And not only that, but the thing is we weren't always completely sober when we were a friendship.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a point there that I needed to clean up my act and take care of my life.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there's certain things that I had to like strip away, but then there were the there were the constants in my life like the people that I can call my friend my family that are part of my friends, you know that I've built you know my little inner circle here, but I think even you.

[SPEAKER_02]: you were just talking about your friend Rob who moved across the country and that was like one of your brothers.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is a little bit of a flux here about you know how close people are and who could you really call to like go feed your dog or pick you up from the hospital?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not very many people.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just it's a little bit of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So and I'll think I responsibility on my end for my experience a lot of that is from [SPEAKER_00]: And again, if the sentience incredibly friendly, there are a lot of nice people here, people are kind to you, but I think the depth of friendship is really what I was going for, and those people you could call in those moments of crisis, you know, I think I need to put myself out there more.

[SPEAKER_02]: that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like, who do you really share things with?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like, like, let me share like some of the other parts of your life.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is because this is a good, good, good to sports conversation.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think, and that's great.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, and I think the other part of it, too, is that we're just we're getting older.

[SPEAKER_02]: So the thing is, so for us to step out and make other friends that are part of the interest that we are in, we have to actively go and try to find like a kickball league or a, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: a book club or something like that, you know, so or like, you know, things that are about interest and not about, you know, if somebody just want to suck your dick and they're going to keep on going, you know, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, obviously right back, we have one more sexy sexy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Text message actually, this came through on the, on the hotline, we'll be right back.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Dr.

Carlton.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_02]: Subject to this one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Duts.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're drained.

[SPEAKER_02]: I went into a group sex party called Drain Your Nut, hosted by the amazing Big Dipper.

[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy this party very much and is one of the few places that I have come three times in an evening.

[SPEAKER_02]: Good times.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, I was walking around like the sled I am looking for a hot situation.

[SPEAKER_02]: I love this person already.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you might most bend of these parties.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I make eyes with a daddy bear that I wanted to play with for years.

[SPEAKER_02]: I walk up to him and touch our hairy bellies.

[SPEAKER_02]: I ask him, can I suck your fat cock?

[SPEAKER_02]: Because even in these spaces, consensus sexy.

[SPEAKER_02]: He says, yes, exclamation point.

[SPEAKER_02]: I reached into my neck hanky pouch to pull out poppers.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, if you are not in the know about the Mr.

S, neck hanky pouch, get on to it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Danjilo, please explain to listeners.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I crouch down, hit my poppers, then I put it back in my hanky.

[SPEAKER_02]: I start sucking the score just uncut cock, and I'm getting into it when I feel a burning sensation in the middle of my chest.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, I touch it and feel wetness.

[SPEAKER_02]: I then realized that the whole bottle of poppers has leaked in my hanky in his ripping down my chest.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know I am in a safe space so I don't turn back and I get into it.

[SPEAKER_02]: With the poppers so tanky, I get lost in his forest skin, cupping his balls and he loves it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Why stroke my rock hard cock?

[SPEAKER_02]: A few minutes later, he comes down my throat and I shoot all over the floor.

[SPEAKER_02]: Two guys next to us came at the same time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Then comes an immediately throbbing headache because I had basically inhaled the whole bottle of cars.

[SPEAKER_02]: I knew I had to get water and sit down so I think this hot daddy bear and asking to follow me to the close check.

[SPEAKER_02]: I tell him what happened and we talk about how hot and sexy it was.

[SPEAKER_02]: He notices my chest is red from where the poppers were burning my skin.

[SPEAKER_02]: I take out the empty poppers and we laugh.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll remember this forever.

[SPEAKER_02]: And for the record, my chest was red and irritated for nine days after.

[SPEAKER_02]: hand over the smile emoji.

[SPEAKER_02]: Also, Daniel Mayer may not have been in the room.

[SPEAKER_02]: Feel free to confess.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who this was?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many people at these parties.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't been for a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this, I know it's like 150 people.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's sometimes.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, it's like a revolving door.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you just keep going around around and circles seeing new people.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's my screen.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're revolving door.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, but this like okay, so I have like a bunch of different bunch of different thoughts about this okay first first off I do not remember this so okay this person wasn't blowing me because I've never blown a load on the floor that's one part But I don't mean like if I'm gonna finish I'm gonna finish, but well, let's go this guy this guy it just got become it came down the other person's throat [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what he would have came down your throat.

[SPEAKER_00]: You would have came down his throat.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I don't think that happened with me But the thing here is So this was some other daddy there and now I just I want to know this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know the faces.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know the faces The names bitch, but anyways [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't remember the overwhelming smell of poppers in a room.

[SPEAKER_01]: You mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I've really, for the most part, I probably would do poppers maybe 5% of the time anymore, because of popular poppers because you're high back last.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that's one part about this.

[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing to that little hanky pouch that you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_02]: may work well, but you need to screw the bottle of poppers, the cap on, bro.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do, yeah, for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's chemical burns and poppers are.

[SPEAKER_00]: notorious.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you see people with crusty noses, it's from popper burns.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a way around that for your nose.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're like holding a bottle of poppers and you're bent over getting fucked and the action of that fucking is going to splash back in your nose.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a dual spout thing that you can screw on that like Leo Herrera sells on his site.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then, um, so does Mr.

S.

I want to have them at gear, like you get a lot of these places.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you could opt before or Vaseline around the tip of your nose, like around your nostrils before you start doing those things, um, if it does splash up on you, it will provide a barrier to your skin, so you don't get burned there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, when you felt that those poppers going down your chest, you probably should've got up and watched your chest really fast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just left that, you let it sizzle, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let it sizzle for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me hot story, and I can tell, I can honestly in the moment, sometimes things just happen, and you just keep going.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a super duper hot story, I love it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would say also with the poppers, sometimes if it's really, really full, I know that it's like pouring liquid gold, but more a little bit out.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, throw a little bit in the toilet.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I remember we used to have a party years ago at a nightclub that closed here in San Diego numbers where we had, I can talk about this at a school because the club no longer exists, [SPEAKER_02]: This maze, you know what I mean with black with black tarp and doveteen and that sort of thing like hanging off the ceiling and one of the things one of the other party partners used to do was take a little bit of poppers and pour a little bit like in the corner of the room on Mike.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just so it would kind of air rate and it would have the sexy smell of poppers, you know what I mean.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was something that was just a side side note, but you don't do that at your house.

[SPEAKER_02]: But but the, but the thing about this is that you know, yeah, like what Dr.

Carlton saying used the aquifer around your nostrils and that sort of a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's also those options that you don't have to just get the little inhaler thing, but you can also have like a twist screw thing around your neck.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or the other thing is depending on how dainty your skin is on your fingertips.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have, when I use to use poppers, is that when you open the bottle, and instead of puffing through your nose, as you're getting fucked, especially if you're getting fucked from behind, and somebody's there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of taking it up through your nose, I used to just kind of do a huff through your mouth.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like do an inhale that so because sometimes your nose just hurts, especially back when I was like, you know, doing in the curriculars and everything else.

[SPEAKER_02]: We said, oh, the things going up your nose.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot of your more not anymore, it's been years.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the thing is that, you know, it's an inhalant.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't just have to inhale through your nose.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can also inhale through your mouth.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't drink the fucking shit and just be careful with, you know, where it's all going.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, keeping, it's just always making sure that that cap is completely tight.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's really something that you just have to do for yourself.

[SPEAKER_02]: And not only because you don't want to get burned, but also because, like, [SPEAKER_00]: But the, during your nut parties, like, what's your favorite personal story?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite personal story?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite personal story?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite personal story from the during your nut party?

[SPEAKER_04]: God.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you my real quick while you're thinking to yours.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have to think of it because I've been through a few.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the funniest thing was I went into that room that was it's like we're all the, all the bottoms are lined up on a table.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, on a bit, like a, a longer head.

[SPEAKER_00]: This like, there's like nine people asked up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just I get up there and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to join these guys and and chill and so like I get up on the on the bed thing and I've been over and and some dude is plowing me from the guy next to bottom next to me is looking at me because we're like face to face and he's like.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Dr.

Carlton, how are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: My husband's a doctor too, and you know, just keeps going on and on and on about all this, like he's just sitting here talking about, like we're having a conversation at the nail salon, while I'm getting drill in the ass.

[SPEAKER_00]: Time and place, I'm like, honey, shut up.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like when people like want to like talk in like conversed at like a sex party.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is that there are places for that, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Just like a lounge area.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go do it there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lounge with snacks and water and like just go have had it over there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I felt like for the poor guy who was fucking me from behind, it was like I was finally my nails and having a conversation with somebody.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_02]: The dark, the, when you are in the dark, it is either for shutting the fuck up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Moaning.

[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: Getting, getting consent.

[SPEAKER_02]: or like dirty talk, not for like, I want to talk to Carlton.

[SPEAKER_01]: So my husband's a doctor to you, and he's a doctor at Kaiser Permanente.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you thought we were talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's just like, you know, like, you're ruining this.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're ruining the experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can I have the moment?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how about you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything in particular?

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've had a few different things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've told stories here about like hot silver daddy, you know, and I know who that is now and I am very impressed because that is, that's like a huge crush for me, uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but actually there was one time where, and I wonder if they're listed in a sense, so we'll just kind of see.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there is a very cute guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_02]: I see often like out and about pecks here and there bear parties, blah, blah, blah, blah, uh, fucking doorbell.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, those people who just have a cute cute face.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_02]: And um, had a moment with him and his, you know, person has, his like, you know, his partner, I think, your boyfriend, whatever.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, [SPEAKER_02]: had like a little moment there with them and you know, and it was just kind of like a show and tell kind of like, oh, never seen your dick before and ever seen your dick before and everybody's just kind of like, you know, when you whip your dick out and everybody's kind of like touching them, you know, and so very, very cute.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then like later in the evening, [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I happened upon another different couple, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: And it was kind of like getting like later in the night where it's like, okay, we need to just, you know, we need to wrap this up hence this episode.

[SPEAKER_02]: But like we need to like, you know, we, we need to, um, [SPEAKER_02]: I was ready to leave.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was ready to to expel the juices to get to come out, you know what I mean like and just like and take off and the thing was is and they were like just too cute like theirs, you know what I mean like and one was super smooth the other one was you know a little bit furry in the chest.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they were just cute and fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so I went over and was kind of messing around with them.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then one decides, like, you know, I was like, I'm going to back up on this and he starts like, railing me and then the cute guy from earlier, like, comes over.

[SPEAKER_02]: and start furiously jacking off really like that's just so into the whole like scene and everything out of you getting roasted like it was just like it was like this moment I wasn't even getting spit roasted like the other guy the other guy was like done [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know, you know, I took turns on that and then but like but it was like when the second guy was like there that's when the other one This guy the cute guy happened upon us and like he like, you know, it was like, you know, just like jerking off and he was also like how fun on poppers, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like was like drick and off drick and off and like just, you know, was, um, it was just a hot scene because it was kind of like being an exhibitionist for this other person in the room.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, and then at the same time, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: I was getting railed, so it was not hot about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, like, look, it's that kind of a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, these parties, they, they do work for what they are intended for the legal purposes.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a lot of fun, but have that it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, every week, we like to leave you guys with a little love and love stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've not left them with enough already.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we're talking a lot of love stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking, that's not, that's not love, baby.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking love language is not just a five love language is acts of service quality time words of affirmation physical touch and receiving loads I mean gifts [SPEAKER_02]: What is your love language this week, Dr.

Carlton?

[SPEAKER_02]: One series?

[SPEAKER_02]: One superficial.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a serious one would be.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just finally put up my Christmas this weekend, you know, all the Christmas tree and the stockings and got out of the or an ornaments.

[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that was really meaningful is the, I don't have a big fancy tree, like all kinds of fancy decorations for the tree.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have.

[SPEAKER_00]: because you have five trees.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I have very simple but meaningful decorations for the tree from like when my kids are in kindergarten.

[SPEAKER_00]: From where we took pictures together as a family when they're young.

[SPEAKER_00]: From previous people that I knew that just gave me this thing one day randomly to put on the tree.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it helps me remember then.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of listeners in Alaska, who sent me some reindeer for little ornaments.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like an Eskimo's made there, and I just thought that was super fucking cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it brings back a lot of memories of people and it kind of keeps the [SPEAKER_00]: keeps those memories alive, just seeing them every year.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that was really super cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Smart Super facial one, because I am a Mexican candy, clean.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a...

[SPEAKER_00]: And Instagram account, out now called Chamoy Queen, C-A-J-M-O-Y-Q-U-E-E-N, and they post a lot of anti-I stuff and they're very pro family and fighting back.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they've actually received a lot of flag online from people who stop buying their stuff because they post these videos.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was important to support them and support this young family.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I bought a bunch of Mexican candy from them online, and it came last week, and I have torn it up already.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was delicious.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the the Chimoe mushroom candies that just so delicious.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's my super official one.

[SPEAKER_00]: How about you?

[SPEAKER_02]: So Mexican candy and [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I think that my, uh, my super my serious one, or I'm not serious, but my, my real thing is, um, actually one of my like longest, you know, friend that I've had since I was like, [SPEAKER_02]: 20 years old that we've just we've lived a lot of life and she comes out to my party.

[SPEAKER_02]: She flies out from New York and oh, what?

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, comes out and she helps me afterwards.

[SPEAKER_02]: So my friend Aggie who a lot of you guys, if you guys are bald and bingeable listeners from back in the day, Aggie would co-host with me on there a lot.

[SPEAKER_02]: I need to bring her on and have her do one of the co-hosting with us on our thing over here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but she, you know, kind of she came into town and she helped me, uh, clean up the next day after the party, you know, let's back yard and all that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and we just had the best time, like we're doing this whole, like, we get into like these vocal stim kind of moments.

[SPEAKER_02]: And there is a video, and I will share it Wednesday on our page.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it's these, you, you just two people and they're looking at this crown that this little look that their kid made and it has like a picture of hot cocoa and a Santa hat and then it says, what's Christmas about and it says, Jesus Christ and J E S E S C R Y [SPEAKER_02]: AST.

[SPEAKER_02]: So Jesus Christ.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so we just kept saying that all fucking afternoon.

[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.

[SPEAKER_02]: They can never like be at the pick something that's like heartwarming and heartwarming story.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but it was just like the most fun, you know, like, so that I think that was like, you know, that's one of my love language this week is Jesus Christ and then my superficial one is probably going to be in that same realm of Mexican food.

[SPEAKER_02]: We do Mexican street tacos for the party made by Mexicans.

[SPEAKER_02]: We bring them, you know, the.

[SPEAKER_02]: come over and they set up a barbecue in the back of the house and it's just like the best.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then what happens at the end of the party is I get all of the leftover.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh, yeah, forgot about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have had, you know, like, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: Chicken.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've had the polio.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've had the, you know, be-day like I just like everything and then also, you know, the extra thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, and it's funny because one of my friends is, hey, ish and you're listening.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's always like, so the thing that we need to realize is that anytime you're Dr.

Carlton have sex, that it's like you're ready for tacos afterwards.

[SPEAKER_02]: that is that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, bye-bye, booty game.

[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ!