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Speaker 4It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack mcarn seo and JP Sorrow.
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Speaker 1So and welcome back to the twenty twenty five laps Fan Christmas shown TLF Rock and Strong Hard, indeed which a coach chairman conducted the fourth ever unwrapping.
We are swimming in a sea of wrestling toys.
All of the Hasbros we wished were created have been created.
Not only have they been created by now Boss, they've been delivered to our hot little by our own little Santa Claus Cherubac hands by our little always one of that Oz action figure and now you have it.
Speaker 3Yep, always the dream.
Speaker 1We got Hogan from No Holds Barred.
We got Hogan from eighty four and eighty five and eighty six and ninety seven.
Speaker 3Sterling Golden.
Speaker 2They did, they did do the like the the mock a w A version, the version they remember, they remember that.
They made like a mock verse set of a W A w E toys like.
Speaker 1The remco ones.
Yeah, oh really.
Speaker 2Yeah, I got one, we got one.
I got one of those.
Remember Tom gave like a ship ton last right, I got a Sterling Golden one in that phenomenal and that's complete as well.
Candies chocolates with the uh chest hair shaves and the mushroom cloud.
Speaker 1You got that right.
Well, we're about to set off our own little mushroom cloud, aren't we.
As we bring it home with two fat sacks from Tom.
Speaker 2Well there's one other after that, but you do your you do your fat Wow.
Speaker 1Micro League w w F Superstars they had two different floppy disc games.
Look at look at the fucking roster on that.
That's a huge roster for a computer game.
Monky tonk Andre Hogan, Deebers Savage, Liz Doug and Bambam Coco, Jake, Rick Rude, One Man Gang King, Harley Race and Bobby of the Brain.
Heen, and take a look at that piece, Jesus.
Now one isn't clamshell Double Event disc micro League.
I I never even heard of them.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 1Also here, Oh, this is different.
I've never seen these before.
Speaker 3That's insane.
Speaker 1Wow, these are cool.
The big rubber guys, it's almost.
Speaker 2Oh, they they've these are new.
Yeah, they've they've done a whole l j N line.
Now, yeah, but this is right.
It's not wred major resting for your podcast.
That's Zach Ryder and Kurt Hawkins there, and they've got they've got the big rubber guy.
But I call myself daddy.
I call myself a big rubber guy.
They roll a hog baby.
Speaker 1Yeah you got that right.
Look at all those on the back that they made.
Jesus, Oh what is this thing?
Speaker 3Well, they got you got Rick Flair bleeding on the bottom, like you got Rick Flair juiced.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, terms in mass glowing.
They've got modern guys like Keithan Page and Matt Hardy and Brian Myers and you know the toy industry.
It's like, like it did it all.
It just did every single thing that we like used to sit around and say what.
Speaker 2It because because because people realized that after our toys, they sucked, Right, that's proof positive.
I think, yeah, I think it used to be better as hard to disprove as we're fucking swimming and stuff that's come out in the last five years, that's all designed to look like it used to look, so fucking can't What the fuck did he do?
How is it this hard?
Speaker 3You know?
Speaker 2What's funny is that he is that he secured it so well and he didn't even ship it.
I know, he freaking hand delivered it.
Speaker 1That's true.
It's i'ting he was worried about it, right, Maybe maybe whoever he bought it from origin.
Speaker 2Maybe not even fucking working.
I mean, you gotta I wish you guys could see this, because honestly, it's comedy here watching him try to open this fucking I mean, there's gonna be layers of bubble wrap.
Oh what's that fucking to Tanka Chief Chase Strung?
Who da Wahoo mc dan fucking picture book of Wahoo mcdan.
Like we're talking like five layers easily of bubble wrap, and he just fucking can't open it up.
I have never seen this the complete Book of Wrestling.
Wow, it is a coffee table style book.
Where the fuck is he?
Speaker 3When is that?
Speaker 2When is this published?
Speaker 1It's got like biographical sketches of like everyone who is anyone in the business?
Nineteen eighty eight?
Wow Publications International, lt.
That book looks pristine, It really does.
It's going all the way back to like it has little little sketches on Fez and Fritz and then it goes through all.
Speaker 2It's crazy chic.
That is crazy.
Look is it brody?
It's like a full guide to the business such as it was.
Wow, Hogan, I see Hogan Booky Bookie, go Bogey there is that's the fucking sports Illustrated photo.
Speaker 1Hogan looks amazing.
Yep, it's crazy, Tom.
I think I've seen it all.
And then there was something that was put out there that I've never even heard of.
Speaker 2Yep, he fucking I'll say, I don't know.
And where he digs up his ship.
Speaker 1Fools rush In, Steve Case, Jerry Levin and the unmaking of aol Time Warner.
That's got to have deep relevance.
I mean, this guy found a book about Linda McMahon's senate campaign, so he's gonna definitely find books about.
Speaker 2Did you read that one?
Speaker 1No?
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day we will.
Speaker 2I think we should.
Maybe when she dies, we'll just still full read through.
Speaker 1It's appropriate the way of on Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Oh wow, there we go, which is one of my favorites of the Bond journeys.
It was tremendous.
And then finally, what have we got in a black box?
Speaker 2I hope it's more like nitro cologne.
No, it's a game Boy something called Analog Pocket.
Speaker 3Is that?
Speaker 2I bet that's what that fucking thing he got?
Like a case for it, a case for it?
Have you opened your sack yet?
I haven't opened yet.
Speaker 1I think Analog Pocket is a series of a bunch of old game Boy games on one disc.
Fascinating.
Well, maybe the message from from Tom will tell us what this is about.
We're going back, folks, were going back because it is going forward just doesn't look too enticing these days.
Wow, well, Tom, thanks very much.
I mean, I don't know what else to say.
We're gonna turn her over to the boss for his big last on set, believe it or not, I don't believe it.
Actually another one for opening after gifts, So that must be box buck on a box by box basis.
Speaker 3I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2I mean, that's like I don't know what the fuck.
I don't know how to well whatever.
I'm just gonna yep.
Speaker 1Here there's yours.
Speaker 3That's my Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1We're seeing those devices.
Speaker 3Where do we got?
Speaker 1He just looked up.
Speaker 2Do you remember another of probably my greatest Hogan villains that wasn't a wrestler?
There another one?
Speaker 1No, I don't remember.
Speaker 2It wasn't cops.
It was from he Man.
I think I just talked about it within like the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1Oh my god, it's too bad.
It's too bad arms in case Masters of the Universe.
Speaker 2It was on the original casing.
But still we're going back.
I mean, this was this was Hulkgan's greatest nemesis in my amazing in my universe.
Two heads, two heads, this guy.
Can you possibly face him?
That's exactly it?
And so and his biggest you know, his big move.
See it's got the kind of bear hug move is great, but like basically could do Mark Henry's slam and.
Speaker 3That would be his.
Speaker 2But I do like this crazy wind up or have him go back and then jump and then slam.
Yes, and I had.
I don't I remember like these weird this weird, these weird booking decisions.
But I remember, like I had this whole career ending thing, all right.
They had a He and Hogan had a career ending match.
Whoever lost?
Yes without a company?
Speaker 1Yes, forever.
Speaker 2And too bad through Hogan's face into the monitor of the the Hasbro ring.
Speaker 1Wow.
Of course I remember that.
Speaker 2Yea, And he brought him back in, slammed him and that did it, and like silence, I went silent.
I went silent, like I haven't call off beating Bruno, all right, I just went silent.
Speaker 3I just had.
Speaker 2I just ended Hulk Hogan's career.
Speaker 4He's fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and and JP Soro laps Fan Wrestling.
Speaker 2Podcast obviously came back, right, So the whole fucking thing.
But yep, He's and you know what this was.
This was one of the first when Hogan when I when I did bring Hogan back.
I don't know if you ever felt this with your action figures, but he suffered from the Hulk Hogan syndrome.
How so that when I brought Hogan back, they had their big rematch of rest so Mania and Hogan won.
It was like, too bad, just didn't matter anymore.
Right, he sucked like he just went down the he once Hogan slay the dragon, It's like he just fell down the card.
They're always gone.
It's fucking crazy, even like Savage couldn't come back.
Speaker 3Yep, it was want to fell apart.
But that's okay.
Speaker 2Oh wow o.
Speaker 1Hogan with the no shirt last Hogan the only one I liked because he's never shirt on.
Yep, he actually looked like he actually yeah, yep, that's a good one.
Sure is.
Speaker 3I like that one too.
Speaker 2I didn't like it at first because you know what, his move seemed too simple.
Yes, the pullback punch just seemed too simple.
But I'll tell you but.
Speaker 1The way he used that hand to hold the hair and this hand to throw the punch, fucking hell is also a great fucking chop, A great chop, great chop army, great lariat too.
Speaker 3Ye yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1But when I realized that that Hogan with this bring a loaded jab, could that jabhand could be used to the hair reel and the other hand could club and finally, no, no, they got one more.
Speaker 3What I'm saying, he's crazy.
Speaker 1I recognized the paper, but that's there's two with that paper.
Okay, he tore the corner off and now he's looking up, he's looking over.
It's taking a moment.
He's ripping.
Speaker 2I mean, granted, the biggest problem is that, I guess, but it's the retro.
It's the Royal Rumble with Purple Matt.
You remember I I talked about it when they came out with the King of the Ring Ring.
Yes, and I always I thought that they were going to come out with then they did.
That's the best part than they did with the new Also, I love how my fucking because they're not listening my wrap, my unwrap, my rapping.
No problem.
Speaker 1Well you probably were stronger than any.
Speaker 2Look at that, and unfortunately it comes with it's beautiful.
My second brother love fucking figure of this.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's so cool.
The original brom logo.
They got Pritchard in the middle with his Bible and his microphone.
Yeah, they got rip them Hogan, and they got Zeus in the Ring and the kanvas is purple folks.
The canvas is purple.
Also, look at can't tell you something.
Look at this even this j Max is twenty bucks.
Wow, that's insane.
Yeah, still have the price tag on it.
Speaker 3This is new is the last couple of years.
Still, I don't care.
That's great.
Speaker 1I agree, it's tremendous.
Speaker 3That's great.
Speaker 2That's a beautiful things.
All right, this is it.
This is the last one.
It's a box that says hultimaiais established nineteen eighty four.
It's like a big box almost like a like you put boots in he opens it.
Hultamania paper, grab some boots, Hogan boots, Hulk Hogan wrestling boots, yellow flames.
If I ever get red pat leather, oh my god, with the real cushioning red laces.
I've never seen something like that.
They sell boots now, they sell boots like.
Speaker 3That now, I can't fucking believe us.
Speaker 1I mean, if ever there was a year, if ever there was a year to be showered with, it was this year, the year of the launch of the complete Hull Cogan, the year of the launch of the co chairman laying down what it is that has imbued you with life and a will to live and we opened the.
Speaker 3All right, do you want to final letters?
Now?
This is insane.
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1From Tom Jack?
Early during the cast tenure, if I remember correctly, before you put out the call for Gary Hart's book and were inundated with PDFs, you said if anyone wanted to gift you anything you wanted text in, particularly anything unpublished.
This has become harder over the years, since I think you have pretty much every wrestling book in history, either physically or digitally.
With that in mind, I tried to find ridiculous wrestling books from the height of the eighties boom that would appear at school book fairs across the country exactly like we were sact, especially ones that put a special empistem.
Speaker 2Home that one member I talked about that that Heroes and Villain's book, the same thing.
It was like the book like this, Well I actually had to be a book at at Barnes and Nobles, But like, yeah, those kind of paperback books paperback, right.
Speaker 1Yep, that's crazy, especially ones that put a special emphasis in hull comania.
These probably won't be that useful for research purposes, but could provide some fun color for the time the publishing world jumped on the wrestling bandwagon.
Included a few other business books as well, in an early paperback edition of Bradshaw's Wall Street Book, which might be the worst financial book ever written, and that's saying something.
As for unpublished, I could only find one thing, the Hull Commania Tour ninety four tour book from when WCW's barnstormed Europe in September nineteen ninety four.
I know not exactly what you're looking forward, it is a bit of internal WCW material which could prove useful when the Complete Hulkgan gets to his WCW run sometime in two thousand and thirty one.
Speaker 3That's about right.
Speaker 1As for the decorations, those are just an homage to your love of It's a Wonderful Life and all things Christmas.
Plus everyone should have a Bailey's Savings and Loan Christmas.
I also wanted to make sure you got at least one figure and a few of the random things like the Bobby and Monsoon T shirt and your own strange, long out of print WW computer game in the form of micro League WW Superstars.
Finally, you asked for a Crown jewel bel To, so I did not ask Did I asked for it?
Speaker 3Probably?
Speaker 4Did?
Speaker 2I get to watch my fucking mouth?
So you said, especially come the end of the year, you know, after summer, sign to be careful what you say.
Speaker 1Yeah, I gotta put like a sign up around here just says like watch your mouth.
So you got a Crown jewel belt.
I had to go Indie belt maker for that, since TKO or too cowardly to sell it in the States.
Speaker 3Of course they are.
Speaker 1So hopefully it's half decent and you can carry it around proudly and mini next summer.
Hope you and the family have a tremendous Christmass.
And said JP many times the last time.
Anyway, you bring that belt, I'll bring my AWA belt.
Oh my god, I know we'll be packing heat.
I can't believe they did let you bring things that heavy in.
But they wouldn't let you bring in like a rock, right or something you could actually I mean, these can actually kill somebody.
Speaker 3I know.
Speaker 1The last ten years have been up and down, to say the least, and it's been nice to share the many down periods with the cast.
Hard to imagine getting through without it.
Speaker 3And that's it.
Speaker 1It's right there.
You can't run from the fact that you need us.
Yes, the harder you fight that, the more miserable you become.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 2I mean we've been saying that since day one.
Keeps proving itself over again.
I don't know what else you need, honestly fighting the fight, you know, it's like it's like hitting yourself against hitting your head against a brick wall.
All right, hey, boss.
So in the early days of the cast, before that very awesome member of the Solar system gifted you the mail the Hogan mail Away, you said, if anyone got you anything you would like figures, specifically Hasbros.
While I would have loved to have gotten you a box full of mint on card Hasbros, those are a bit out of my price range.
However, he fucking pretty much did.
However, thanks to the rise of indie companies making Hasbro style figures and matel bringing back the retros line, I was able to put together enough for a small but formidable fig fed.
It's not small at all.
That's a massive fucking federation.
I tried to give you at least one of all the many many companies making Hasbro style figures nowadays, including KWK, Zaylor Zombie, a Zombie Sailor's heels and faces, Mitch Grappler's and gimmicks, Epic toys, Mottel excuse me, Mattel's retros, and of course are a few actual hasbro thrown in for good measure.
Speaker 3There are also a.
Speaker 2Couple of bonus figures just throwing just for fun.
I mean, you got to have a cup figure, and too bad if you were going to start restart the Fed.
Also sorry about Prichard, but wanted to make sure you got to ring as well.
And brother Love is the bonus figure.
Why anyone would want to bro?
I mean, it's funny.
You're not gonna buy you know, one's gonna buy a brotherlessle figure, so you gotta throw it in some sub Absolutely.
Speaker 3You know.
Speaker 2The boots go back a few months ago where someone said you just needed wrestling boots to be a wrestler.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2You've already trained for fake combat.
I thought these were particularly appropriate this holiday season.
Finally, I think I got you a T shirt.
I'm pretty sure you already have no, No, we don't, you know I don't have the Simpsons T shirt.
Sorry about that.
I wanted to give you at least one a book to go along with all the figures, and the micro League Wrestling computer game comes from one of the UK centric episodes when you guys just governed a bunch of right w we found a bunch of random games.
Yeah, remember that he was wearing that German episode you hadn't seen that had been released on microcomputers in the late eighties and nineties early nineties micro computers were, while wildly popular across Europe, never really had the same impact here.
Still saw it on my last trip to England and thought you'd get a kick out of it.
As a totem if nothing else, hope you and yours have the happiest Christmas, is my friend, and thanks for the infinite entertainment that makes it so, that makes so many difficult days go by in a flash.
And then we have one last letter from him to read after everything was opened.
Speaker 1Tidings to everyone in the Solar.
Speaker 2Indeed, for the video game portion of the in rappitting this year, I was determined to go with something more portable that you might actually have time to play, at least in short ten minute bursts.
But instead of going with something from the game Boy family, I decided the Analog Pocket, which emulates old hardware, including all varieties of old handhelds, game Boy, game Gear, GBA, etc.
But also eight and sixteen bit consoles.
Right so you can play NES, super Nes Master System, Genesis, Turbographics sixteen, and the Coup de Gras, certain arcade games.
Quick startup guide.
Turn on the system left side of the system below the volume rocker.
Go to open FPGA, Go to our k game.
Scroll down until you find the WWE wrestle Fest core.
Press the far right button on the diamond configuration, the equivalent of A on an only super Nes controller until the game starts.
That doesn't work, Press the plus or start button on the right.
Below the buttons below the deep padd and buttons, there are three buttons Home and plus.
Minus is select.
You can use that to add credits.
Home in the middle allows you to exit game and play around with options.
Plus on the right is the start button.
I will send you a PDF of the manual, since no one includes actual manuals anything they sell anymore.
God forbid you'd want to learn how to use the product.
Right, There's a lot more to play besides wrestle Fest, and I throw a ton of different games for you to try.
Out on there.
But then again, the idea of hardware accurate wrestle Fest on a game boy like device would have blown all our minds thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1I hope you both enjoy that's true.
We go from the big dreams of the wrestle Fest arcade cabinet to getting a desktop cabinet to now it's in the palm of our our fucking hands.
And as great as that sounds, there's also a lot to lament about that, yep.
But I think because your co chairman sit so uniquely at the intersection of nostalgia and prescients, we're able to appreciate what it was in what it is, and in the year of the complete Hull Cogan, certainly the lapsed fan solar system is seen to it that it's a merry Christmas, indeed, and the best we can do from amidst the pile of outpouring here from all corners of the globe is to say thank you and to wish you and yours a wonderful holiday season in twenty twenty five.
You've certainly made it so for us in our eleventh year of dominating our audience, and long may it continue and dominating that ass, So from here from the twenty twenty five unwrapping, This is us saying Merry Christmas to you and we'll see you for the unwrappening.
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