Navigated to MY Top 25 Rankings + Week 2 Upset Alerts & Cole Cubelic - Transcript

MY Top 25 Rankings + Week 2 Upset Alerts & Cole Cubelic

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Speaker 1

Week two.

Huh, sure is sure is quiet out there.

It's a little bit too quiet.

I would even go as far as to say suspiciously quiet.

It's one of those weeks people tell you you can afford to do yard work, you can afford to have a social life.

Some people even suggest scheduling fall weddings during weekends like these.

Of course those are casuals we don't acknowledge, but those people do exist.

And yet, time and time again, college football teaches us it's the weekends you fly over that are the weekends that cause you to crash and burn.

We're jam packed, we're high a top of glorious, beautiful sunset outside downtown Nashville, Tennessee, on this Thursday, September, fourth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

Yeah, we're going to do upset alerts.

We do them every Thursday.

I'm just growing mildly to moderately concerned about some of you who, after one week, believe you know everything you need to know about not only your teams, but all the teams, and you believe that you can afford to overlook this week.

You cannot.

You cannot.

In fact, we know it's gonna happen.

Immunity to everything.

We know it's coming, we just don't know when I am taking unprecedented steps on Tonight's show.

I have listened as the future commissioner of this great sport of ours.

I have listened to people complained about the JP poll.

And I know once upon a time I told you we weren't gonna bend on this.

But I've got my reasons for doing what I'm about to tell you I'm doing on tonight's show.

For the first time ever during a season, I am not releasing my power ratings.

I'm gonna flat out give you my rankings.

If I were an AP voter, Here's how I'd vote them.

Not power ratings, not neutral field favorability, good old fashioned merit, earn it on the field, and it's gonna be pretty exotic.

I tell you, September is changing.

The schedule is changing rapidly.

We got some huge games over the next three weeks, four weeks.

Really it's the entire season.

But dude, we got some landscape playoff, field altering, at conference race deciding games that you don't have to wait until November for.

Also, Kublic may be on the show tonight Jesse told me there is a what do we think, Jesse like fifty five to forty five, sixty forty maybe maybe sixty five to thirty five chants that Kublic's on the show within the next thirty minutes.

I don't know our balls are in his court.

I don't know they're watching us in Abilene, Texas Des Moines, Iowa, where I will be sometime, very very very late tomorrow night.

Alexandria, Virginia, Sunrise, Florida.

Thank you so much.

Now listen, I'm going to do something stupid tomorrow, very stupid.

It has long been my dream to be able to do some recreational activities during the fall.

And what I mean by that is play men's league softball on Friday nights.

But we're normal traveling.

Well, we've gotten a little more flexibility in our travel this weekend.

So I'm gonna play softball tomorrow night, and then me and pres I believe we're gonna fly up to Iowa in the middle of the night.

Anyway, I say all that to say this, I've got to do Friday Night lines earlier tomorrow night, much to the delight of some of you who have an early bedtime so listen here, listen up Instagram Live tomorrow night.

I'm looking at seven eastern sixth Central or thereabouts for Friday Night Lines.

I'm gonna give you two more best bets on the Ramnudle Express on this show tonight.

But those of you who think Friday Night Lines is a little bit too late for you, or you know you're better than the rest of us and you're out partying on Friday night, well I bet you're not out by seven eastern.

So check us out over there at Josh Pate CFB.

And while you're there, I'm just gonna go ahead and let you know again we live a very stupid life around here.

We get to do a lot of fun stuff.

The Instagram story this weekend will be evidence of that.

Two games on Saturday, softball on Friday night gonna be great, Okay in the meantime.

In the meantime, the upset alert meter is pinging all across the country, and frankly, I'm not even sure in the one, two, three, four, five, six games that I'm about to discuss here if we're even going to scratch the surface of the threat.

There are shark fins everywhere.

Do not listen to people who tell you this is some sleepy weekend.

This is some overlooked weekend in wrestling.

What would they call this Jesse like a one match card.

People are telling you it's Oklahoma, Michigan and nothing else.

Well, that can't be true because I myself will be at two games Saturday.

But outside of that, what just because you got a thirteen point spread on a game you think it can't happen.

You checked out Alabama lately.

Bama's the first one, they may not be the only ones.

So let's look at some of these games.

The first one wouldn't even be an upset, but you can't tell that to the college football public.

Illinois is at Duke.

You haven't looked at it.

If you haven't looked at it the spread, that is, what do you think the gap between these teams?

Is Illinois number six in the Big Ten odds but ranked pretty high.

Duke's number seven in the acc odds.

What would you think you're running your own sportsbook, now, what would you think?

Seven?

Eight?

Maybe Illinois by ten.

Illinois a two and a half point favorite there, but it's moved to three and a half.

We got it.

The other of the night.

This is one of our best bets.

So I'm kind of talking to myself right now.

I love Illinois in this game.

But in the interest of talking about the upset alert meter, yeah, we got to put it at a seven.

We got to acknowledge it could happen here.

We're going to find out about Darien Menzo.

So that was the quarterback.

If you'll recall, it was a two lane last year, and then he got paid.

I think the number was like half a billion dollars to go to Duke.

It's a rough estimate, and this is the kind of game that he's there for.

I want to tell you something.

I know it's only week two, but I want to tell you if you're thinking a long game here, if you're thinking, how does this game fundamentally impact the playoff picture?

It does for both teams.

So I want you to just quickly just think this through with me.

Let's say Duke wins this game.

They're two toughest remaining games, not for this month but the whole year are Georgia Tech and at Clemson.

What if they lose both of them, ten and two Duke.

What if they split them maybe eleven and one Duke?

Now, of course they could lose other games, but I'm giving you the toughest remaining opponents as we see it.

If Illinois wins this game, they got at Indiana and Ohio State at home as their toughest remaining games, not their only losable games, of course, Like they got to go to Washington, that'll be a very tough game.

They play USC at home, That's not an easy game, but you get yourself some wiggle room.

Anyway.

I'm gonna put a seven on this one on the upset Alert concern scale.

Gonna be a one to watch though.

Now, as for the goings on in Lexington, Kentucky this weekend, you might or might not have heard that Ole Miss is in town.

You probably remember that Kentucky won this game outright last year.

So what are we thinking, revenge spot run it up Lane?

Well, if you thought that this morning, then I've got great news for you this evening.

The line I think when I woke up was like ten and a half.

It's dropped two points today.

Now, if you care about betting, that matters for obvious reasons.

If you don't care about betting, you're probably still curious.

They're like, wait a second, that means Old Miss is minus less points now, which means they're favored by less.

Why would that be the case?

Why?

God, to be real with you, I don't know.

I don't know to the point where I'm gonna have some action on this game.

But if I were to put together the case for Kentucky, they did win this game last year.

They did have four sacks and seven tackles for loss in this game last year.

Matchup wise didn't go well for Old Miss.

I would go as far as to say offensive line is still something that you need to see several weeks of in terms of proof of performance.

It is a team going on the road in conference for the first time this year.

It's a first year starter at quarterback going on the road.

I still look at it and I say, I gotta see it.

I'm putting a four on this.

Everyone that I've seen is circle in this game.

Be careful, ol Miss, be careful.

How about Kentucky?

Be careful?

This is the Zach Calzada led Kentucky Wildcats.

They got out gained by Toledo last week.

I don't often say these words, but man, there's no way this is gonna happen.

Is that the general consensus out there.

I know it is.

I know everyone thinks that, and yet obviously someone with a ton of money's betting on Kentucky here it Sometimes, oftentimes when that happens, it gets my attention.

I'm looking at it this time saying, I hope you enjoyed your money.

You're gonna be partnering with it soon.

Don't embarrass me, Lane next up, Boy, oh boy.

Sometimes the Sarah McLaughlin special sneaks up on you.

Other times you can see here from a mile away, and I really think she's going to be coming to us from Eugene, Oregon this Saturday.

Oklahoma State at Oregon.

This line is right now, twenty eight and a half, which is a shame because once upon a time, not too long ago, kids, if you're like six years old watching Thank You, subscribe, Thank You, But uh, what if I told you this would have been a marquee matchup not too long ago?

Oregon is still what they're supposed to be.

Oklahoma State's sort of falling on hard times, a poverty program by their own admission.

Lately, this game, according to Mike Gundy, has been sort of set up like where I grew up in rural Georgia around Christmas time.

One Friday night, you go to Golden Corral, you get stuffed, get you maybe a to go box, even though I'm not sure you're supposed to do that at Golden Corral.

Anyway, you'd leave and before you go home, it's December.

Your mom or your dad says, you, guys want to go look at Christmas lights.

Kids in the back seat joyously ring out, yeah, we want to go look at Christmas lights.

Now, that means you're going to the nice neighborhood and you're gonna drive up down these hills and look at those long driveways up to these immaculate Christmas decorations and lights on these three and four story homes.

But all the while, you know you got a finite amount of time in there.

You're only there to visit.

That's not the neighborhood you live in.

You eventually got to turn around and you got to go back home.

Oklahoma State's going to see Christmas lights this weekend.

Oklahoma State's going to see a program that is flush with cash they spend to win up there, and it's been talked about a lot this week.

If you've missed it, the sniping back and forth.

Landing just popped two more Zen's in to talk about it while I've been doing this segment, so I can tell when Dan Landing's about to run it up on someone.

They're about to run it up on Oklahoma State.

Oklahoma States quarterback I think's hurt too.

So one and a half kindly, right now, one and a half is my concern for this game.

To say I'm not concerned about it.

However, Arizona State is going to Mississippi State, and this one has my interest, It may even have my outright attention.

The Big Twelve has a big week coming up.

This is an example of that.

We got the number three team in the Big Twelve according to the odds right now, versus the number fourteen team in the SEC.

And the conference has a lot of marquis out of conference games this weekend.

They had some last week and it didn't go great outside of Utah, which is criminally underrated right now.

I'll get to that later.

This can't happen.

And yet the line on the game six and a half, so Arizona State favored by less than a touchdown.

On the road.

Arizona State was very isolated in offensive production numbers last week against Northern Arizona.

Of course, they didn't open the bag against Northern Arizona.

But if they get on the road here in Cowbell Country and Jordan Tyson gets limited, do they have the depth of playmaker?

Do they have the depth and the wide receiver room?

Can they run the ball consistently here?

Because Mississippi State with a healthy shape and is a pretty solid team, not upper echelon in the SEC, nothing like that.

But I keep thinking back to that Arizona State game last year, your eventual Big twelve champ last year, goes on the road to Texas State.

They eke out a win, and that number was small too.

I think this is going to be a fight, four quarter fight.

I got it at eight and a half on the Upset Alert Concern Meter.

It's the kind of game where just not many people are talking about it, but if the upset happens, everyone's looking saying, oh, who saw that coming?

Speaker 2

Well?

Speaker 1

Why not you?

Why wouldn't you know?

Why wouldn't this be on your radar?

Because you felt for the casuals telling you this is a sleeper week.

That's why USF is going to Gainesville.

USF Alex Golish has made sort of an early career down there out of playing SEC teams tough.

Did it twice against Bama.

I think he's played either Florida or Miami and did it tough with them too.

They just beat Boise.

They're on extra rest a couple of days extra rest.

Here's the way I see this game going.

I don't think Florida is just going to blow them out wire to wire.

There is a world where Florida gets out to an early lead, third quarter, it's a four score game, and so then they start thinking to themselves, hmm, we go to LSU and then we go to Miami.

Foot comes off the gas a little bit, maybe Lagway comes out.

That's just for point spread purposes.

That's how the back door cover would happen.

But that's not what we're talking about here.

We're talking about can USF win the game out right?

There's a path for it to happen.

Yes, there's a world where that happens.

I got it at a four and a half on the upset Alert concern scale because I do think that Florida is athletically totally different caliber.

Obviously, I do think that they're dynamic enough to where this doesn't actually happen.

It would not shock me at all.

If you're getting text if your phone's getting blown up wherever you are, midway through third quarter or late third quarter of this game.

Hey bro on the USF Florida game, you've seen.

What's happening here would not shock me.

I'm gonna put a four and a half on it.

I am paying attention to it.

For the record, I would lean South Florida plus the points and one more game Friday game here James Madison at Louisville.

Hm hmm, I don't know.

We already bet it this week.

I like James Madison to cover.

I've got a solid seven on the upset alert concern scale here.

Now the line's fourteen and a half, and I actually like Louisville.

I'm just worried that they haven't geled yet.

It's a portal heavy team.

Miller Moss had three picks last week.

I believe against Eastern Kentucky that they ran it well.

James Madison, that is, ran it for three hundred last week against a high school, but nonetheless ran it for three hundred.

Weber State is the name of the high school James Madison is always one of the best GFI programs.

You never I don't.

I'm not pretending to know what they have this early in the season.

I don't think they do.

But we do have one of their grads on staff, so we constantly get fed intel.

That's not true, but we are kept up to date about James Madison.

I would keep a close eye on this game if it just if it dive bombs you out of nowhere.

I think it may be Louisville, Kentucky where it happens.

So I have a strong eye, both eyes on that game.

You can get to any of them.

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We're going to be in Ames, Iowa for the early kickoff Iowa versus Iowa State, and then we will make our way down to Norman, hopefully well before kickoff of the Michigan Oklahoma game.

Looking forward to seeing a lot of our friends in both places.

But it's gonna be a great day.

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Of course, we have to stop eventually to fuel up, and we're not driving from Iowa to Oklahoma.

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One more, just quick note before I get to why a lot of you are here right now.

Some of you may be here for Cublic.

I don't know.

There's no guarantee he's even going to be on the show, so be careful with that.

I do have my Top twenty five coming up in just a second.

Some of you saw that, and then you ask about the thing that I did with Colin Cowherd.

Yeah, that's another partnership that we've entered into.

I'm going to do something with Colin weekly over on his channel yet again, it doesn't impact this show at all.

Yet again, it doesn't change anything about this show.

Yet again, everything remains the same on this show.

So most of what we planned has now been brought to light about our content strategy for this year.

And as you can clearly see, the show still here.

We still own it.

Same schedule, same vibe, same everything, same little coffee mug over there, which is a relic from my wedding.

By the way, finally got ourselves one.

I didn't even get one of my own wedding gifts.

I had to barter with someone, not the way it's supposed to work, but it worked that way anyway.

So we got to deal with We got a partnership with Busting with the Boys, We got a partnership with On three, partnership with Yahoo, partnership with the ESPM, partnership with Colin.

We are taking college football to every corner of the earth that we possibly can.

And I don't know if you saw the rating for Ohio State, Texas and bam FS and LSU Clemson.

Are we responsible for it?

I can't say no.

No, I can say no, but we're happy to be a part of it.

We're happy to be able to talk about it all.

Right, there we go, Bradley eyes on me right here.

I have to release my rankings.

I feel like I have to do this.

So here's the deal.

I never do rankings.

I only believe in power ratings.

I've never really cared about rankings all that much, but in the power ratings world, it's all about neutral field favorability.

I put out the JP pole every week, and every week it confuses people, but I explain it.

So if you're confused after that, it's up to you.

You don't have to agree with it, but you know it's kicked over in ant bed.

That's a lot bigger than I was ready for this year, because our show's gotten so big that there's so many new viewers and listeners that the JP Pole when it's put in front of them doesn't make sense.

And I really feel like we've reached a tipping point where if that is the only exposure that someone's getting to our sho show, it is sullying the good name of our show before they ever give us a shot.

So what am I going to do about that?

Well, I thought to myself self, continue to do the JP pole community, But we are also tonight and maybe tonight only, I don't know going to deliver an actual top twenty five.

I for the next five minutes am going to be an AP voter, and I'm going to tell you if I had to rank teams, if I was a playoff committee member and I had to rank teams, forget about neutral field, who would be favored over who that's for Tuesday night?

Forget that.

No, this is about merit.

This is about earning it on the field.

This is about a body of work for this year.

And many of you have played nobody, some of you have already lost.

Well, you know what that just means.

If I'm going to really stick to my principles here, that means I'm not gonna lie to you and say I didn't have a preseason idea on teams, But once the games have happened, I'm going to be a about ten percent working off my preseason idea and ninety percent what's happened on the field.

Because to me, that's how rankings should work.

So I'm gonna do it in random order.

I'm gonna show you, for instance, Miami right now, Miami's ranked fifth in the AP.

I would put them third.

That was a very impressive game they played the other night against Notre Dame, and look, you could argue them higher than that.

I would go no lower than third from Miami Arizona State, I'd put about sixteen.

Nothing against Northern Arizona really moved me one way or the other.

They've got a much better shot going on the road in the SEC this weekend, so i'd have them sixteen.

Michigan gonna see them in person Saturday night.

Give me Michigan at nineteen.

I'd put the Wolverines down there right now.

AP's got him at fifteen.

Not a ton of separation.

And it's a moot point because if Michigan goes and dominates Oklahoma, Michigan probably vaults themselves up into the top ten.

Florida State's ranking makes no sense to me.

Not power rating their ranking makes that's no sense to me.

The AP's got them at fourteen.

Florida State's at seven for me, and I'm gonna tell you why, because Florida State just pants to Alabama on national television.

And you can say what you want to about where Alabama shutters shouldn't be ranked, and I'll get to that.

But if you're telling me.

You're putting them at fourteen.

That means you've seen thirteen more impressive bodies of work so far this year than Florida State.

Drugs.

You were high, You're lying.

What you're doing is you're too prideful to come off your own preconceived notions in the preseason.

Now, if we're doing power ratings, that's okay, but that's not what we're doing.

You dragged me into this world kicking and screaming.

So I'm gonna explain to you how your world should work.

In your world, Florida State should be a bona fide top ten team right now.

I got them at number seven.

I've got Notre Dame the exact same as the AP.

I've got him at number nine.

Okay.

The most egregious omission from the top fifteen this week was Utah.

Utah is number eight for me.

Utah is a top ten team because Utah committed some light crime against UCLA, and I know what happened.

I know what happened.

We all know what happened.

Those of us who are really die hard and we love the sport, we were sitting up at one thirty in the morning watching Utah.

Most people with an AP vote were sound asleep, and that's why Utah is currently what twenty fifth in the AP.

It's such a joke.

This is why I don't have time to be schooled about my power ratings by people whose rankings are this big a joke.

Utah dominated week one.

I will virtually guarantee you there will be severe upward mobility.

People will be so far behind the curve on them.

Well I'm out of the curve.

Well, actually, actually I'm just on the curve because I actually watched them play the other night.

The audacity, by the way of ranking teams after you watch them play, Utah number eight, USF is ranked for me, I've got them twenty fifth.

The AP is like USF us what they played already?

Yeah, yeah, you know who they played.

They played the team every single one of you were picking to go to the playoff from the G five.

Why do I get the sneaking suspicion, by the way that if Boise would have won that thing by three, they'd be ranked.

But since USF one going away, they're not ranked.

I'll tell you why.

Pre season rankings.

Nothing wrong with preseason rankings.

Remember I don't even do rankings.

Except for this right now.

But I've always told you I got no problem with preseason rankings, but you got to be able to come off of those rankings once the season starts.

You got to be able to keep about ten percent of your preseason belief and first few weeks ninety plus percent of your guidance should be based on what's happened on the field.

Well, they convincingly beat a playoff projected team in Boise State, so they ought to be ranked.

So they are.

For me.

I've got South Carolina number ten.

I've got them the same as the AP does.

I've got Ohio State number one, the same as the AP does, so I don't have much disagreement there.

I know there was some talk about whether Ohio State should be one or LSU should be one.

If I'm ranking teams, guys, this is not that difficult.

That team just won a national championship.

They just took on an elite opponent, high level opponent, and they beat them and led fourteen to nothing in the fourth quarter.

Like until someone knocks them off or they look extremely vulnerable, or someone else just looks above and beyond dominant.

Don't overthink the room.

Ohio State's the number one team in the country.

Ole Miss, I've got five spots higher than the AP.

I've got ole Miss at fifteen.

I think the AP's got them at twenty, right, Jesse.

They sure they went up and down the field on Georgia State.

They got some impressive athletes.

And I was watching that because we had Georgia State plus the points and that didn't go the way we wanted it to.

They ran it up on Georgia State.

They go on the road this week to Kentucky.

It's the kind of game where they have everything to lose and virtually nothing to win.

Because they go smoke Kentucky, people will say it was Kentucky, and then if they don't, they'll plummet because they lost to Kentucky.

I think they'll take care of business this week.

I believe in them, Elaine, I believe in you again.

Don't embarrass me this week.

LSU number two team in the country.

AP's got him at number three.

LSU just went on the road.

Not only did they win a game on the road, I actually if you just watched the game, you understand there were a couple of calls that kept that from being a game where LSU won with margin on the road in the building of the preseason ACC title favorite.

So yes, LSU way up there.

Number two.

I got Oregon the same as the AP.

I've got him number six.

Here's another team that not a lot of people watched last week, Tennessee.

Tennessee was impressive to me.

If I'm going to sit here and question Tennessee the preseason and then some of the things I questioned are strengths of their Week one win over Syracuse, I'm rewarding that I've got them number thirteen.

The AP has them twenty two.

Guarant Look, I will guarantee you that the game against Syracuse happened and not a lot of people watched it because it was in a window where other big games were happening, and people just looked and said, Okay, well they beat Syracuse.

That's not a big deal.

They their offensive line, the quarterback play defensively, just so many things I had question marks about Tennessee on one game sample size.

I know that's all we have to go on.

We're not projecting with this.

This isn't power ratings.

There's rankings.

Tennessee's thirteen.

I don't know why people aren't higher on them after their Week one performance.

Very impressive Texas, all right, what do we do with them?

I dropped him a fair amount because I've got to go on body of work, and the body of work for Texas right now is a loss.

But it's a lost number one team in the country.

Fair.

They did rally back, they gave themselves an outside shot to win it late, but that offense was shaky.

Matt, Patricia will do that to you.

As it turns out.

I put Texas at eleven.

I put them a little bit lower than the AP which has them at seven.

And it doesn't matter what you're ranked, obviously, and plenty of plenty of opportunities to rebound, but I gotta come down on you pretty harshly when you're as anemic offensively as that, when you can't get it done inside the ten yard line.

Again, it's a lingering issue that we saw crop up last year.

I'm gonna put Texas at eleven right now.

Iowa State, I'm pretty in line with what the AP thinks they're They've got them sixteen.

I've got Iowa State fourteen.

We will see them in person Saturday morning Central time against Iowa.

You might be wondering, oh man, when's Bama gonna pop up?

Win's Bama gonna pop up?

I don't have them ranked.

Alabama's unranked for me.

The AP's got them twenty one.

Why would I rank Alabama.

There are twenty five bodies of work better than Alabama's right now.

Indiana, I don't have ranked.

I saw him struggle to put old dominion away, took old dominion in the points.

By the way, if you were listening on Friday night lines, the AP's got them twenty third.

Not a ton of disagreement there, But I don't have Indiana top twenty five.

Oklahoma is very very conflicting for me, cause in the JP pole I'm high on Oklahoma.

Well, the model is at least and I picked Oklahoma to beat Michigan this weekend.

Who I have ranked nineteenth, But I do not have Oklahoma ranked.

I think I have in twenty six.

So just outside the top twenty five.

They're coming off a bad year.

Remember it's tough for me to reprogram my mind to talk like this.

But in rankings terms, why has Oklahoma earned a top twenty five ranking.

They came off a bad year, yet they made moves and if I'm predicting.

I will predict Oklahoma to be a top twenty five team.

But they couldn't run the ball last week against Illinois State.

They struggled to run the ball.

Matier looked good against inferior competition, but hey, I could say that about him at Washington State.

I've yet to see him against legit competition, which happens this weekend against Michigan.

But I've got Oklahoma just outside the top twenty five, and the AP has them eighteen right now.

Penn State AP's got them two, I've got them four.

It's just I've not seen them play anybody.

I just saw what Miami and LSU and Ohio State did, so I'm rewarding those three.

It's not a punishment on Penn State.

They've got plenty of opportunities coming up.

I've got USC ranked twenty third.

I've got USC this is arguable.

They could be twenty third, they could be twenty sixth.

I think that there's again a little pulse out there, maybe a little more pulse than the public is ready to admit.

They scored like one hundred and forty seven points week one against a high school team.

I got USC twenty third.

You can debate that.

That's fine.

Georgia, I've got fifth, the AP has fourth.

No real difference in an opinion there.

Illinois, I'm with the AP on them.

So there's a lot of agree here with the AP.

I've got Illinois twelfth, the AP has them eleventh.

SMU same deal.

I got SMU eighteen, the AP has them seventeen.

I also agree on Texas Tech.

They're at twenty fourth.

All right, here's one that will probably be a little controversial, but I just think it makes perfect sense.

If we are ranking teams based on their body of work, why is Clemson number eight in the country.

Clemson got stoned in their own building a game that honestly on the scoreboard was a lot closer than maybe it could have been or should have been.

At the end, that was dangerously close to LSU stretching that thing.

And I got Clemson at twenty one.

That is not that impressive a showing at all.

I think their offense is very limited right now.

There's a ways to go for that team.

So I'm divorcing myself of preseason expectation.

Doesn't matter what I thought about Clemson preseason.

This is the rankings world.

Right.

This is how it's supposed to work, Jesse.

Right, that's what y'all told me.

So if we're going based on what we've had actually seeing, Clemson's not a top fifteen team.

They're number twenty one right now.

That's where they're parked.

Be happy to be ranked.

You did play my number two team, I will grant you.

You could have scheduled a creampuff in one by forty, but yet you didn't and you lost.

So you're at twenty one right now.

Let's see Florida.

I'm a little bit lower on than the AP.

Obviously the JP pole would disagree.

But I've got Florida seventeen.

AP's got him thirteen.

Let's fill this out, Bradley, I got A and M twentieth.

AP's got him nineteen.

I've got Georgia Tech ranked.

Georgia Tech committed the crime of playing too early.

They go out to Colorado, they turn the ball over three times in the first quarter and still win the game.

I think Georgia Tech's impressive Haines King may not survive half the season if they play him like they did the other night.

So we're gonna work on that.

But I got Georgia Tech ranked.

So I mean, I don't get what's so difficult about this.

As far as I can tell, rankings are judge a team based on merit instead of what they would be favored by against who on a neutral field.

This seems very easy.

People are making it very complicated.

I don't know why.

I don't know why at all.

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Jesse at seven thirty two.

What should we do right here?

Oh?

We do well?

Well, well, all right, here's what we'll do, Jesse.

I've got a plan.

I got a plan.

So let's get cublicqueued up and then I'll tell you what we're gonna do.

I am going to do Rominouel Express.

Then we'll do Cublic.

Okay, so Robinoel Express.

I'm about to add two games too.

We are already Just to refresh you, the games were already on and all of these numbers have moved.

Some say we're moving the line.

I don't want to confirm that.

I'm just telling you Northern Illinois plus seventeen and a half ain't available anymore.

We locked it in on Tuesday, James Madison plus fourteen and a half gone.

We locked it in on Tuesday.

Illinois minus two and a half.

That thing crossed three.

We locked it in on Tuesday.

Michigan Oklahoma over forty five and a half.

Now that one you can actually get better value on.

Right now, we have a difference of opinion FanDuel and I on the way that game is gonna go anyway, lock in right here.

Two added best bets ole Miss.

I cannot believe this number is coming down to us ole Miss minus eight and a half.

Yes, yes, it's the squarest bet in the world.

I couldn't care less.

People are overthinking the room on this.

They're winning by double digits against Kentucky and Louisiana Tech is going into Death Valley.

Well, I guess they won the bragging rights last week.

So the real one at LSU.

LSU's gonna win this Saturday convincingly.

I just don't think by thirty eight or more so Louisiana Tech plus thirty seven and a half.

That's another game we're on.

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We appreciate it, all right, Jesse, prove it to me.

I don't believe he's here.

I don't believe we have cublic.

We've actually never had cublic in our new setup here, so I don't know how this works.

Well, there, he is here, I am, and you sound clearer than you ever did in the old building.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Jesse got to work on it.

Speaker 3

Said that he wasn't going to allow you to pretend like the technical difficulty was going to keep me from being on the show again tonight.

But I just appreciate you waiting until thirty five million people were watching the first quarter of the first NFL game of the season to bring me on your show live when obviously everybody is dialed in.

Speaker 1

You think there's a design behind that, huh.

Speaker 2

I know how calculated you are.

Speaker 1

So I don't know if you've talked about Alabama a lot this week.

You just do radio local Showah, yeah, you just do radio and Birmingham Monday through Friday.

Okay, So I listened to you and McElroy a lot, so I'm aware of what the tone of the show sounded like this week for those unfamiliar, they kind of know the stereotype, like if someone's in Seattle, they know the stereotype.

What's the state of Alabama?

Like when Alabama loses or god forbid both of them, Alabama Auburn lose the same week.

Well, this week we had Obama meltdown, we had an Auburn win on the road at Baylor.

What was the dynamic like there.

Speaker 3

It's one of my most difficult times of the year when it does take place the way that it did.

Speaker 2

To actually host a radio show.

Speaker 3

In Birmingham and it goes something like this, welcome back in Macelroy and Cublic in the morning, eight hundred sixty nine, eight hundred two three nine WJOX.

If you'd like to get in Pauz, go to phones, let people melt down live.

That's pretty much it.

And the tone of those people was that this is one hundred percent on the coaches.

The coach to board needs to be fired, that none of the coaches there know what they're doing, and the scheme was terrible, the design of the plays were terrible, and sixty million is no big deal.

Just pay it out now, get it over with and let's move on.

Speaker 1

Someone else's money.

It's the easiest money to spend.

I don't know if you heard.

By the way, I don't know if you heard.

Cule you don't even have to pay it all at once.

You can pay it in annual installments.

So when you break it down like that, When you break it down like that, what is seventy million dollars?

You get to split it out to twenty thirty one.

It's kind of easy when you think about it.

Speaker 3

Think about it this way though, And just to entertain the stupidity that is that conversation, I had a conversation with the buddy mine today and he asked me that question, and asked it because he thought he had spoken to some people who know that led him.

Speaker 2

To believe this could possibly be real somehow way.

Speaker 3

And I said, well, let's take the follow up to that.

So let's sit sixty three too.

Whatever it is, let's just call it sixty yep.

Okay, you're gonna have to buy out the rest of the staff.

You're closing in on seventy At that point.

Speaker 2

You're gonna lose a lot of guys of the portal.

Speaker 3

Okay, Now this is before we talk about new coach, and when you lose players, what do you have to do replace said players?

And you may have to pay a premium to get those backs to your nil's going up.

So now we're what eighty ish on top of that, got to go hire a new coach that's gonna be guaranteed money that somebody's got to come up with because we're all scared of revenue sharing now, so we can't use school money on that anymore.

So now all the folks that ponied up for all that, we either got to go back to them, which we've been knocking on their door weekly for the last couple of years anyway, and we got to say, hey, we really like coach so and so, but he's probably gonna command one hundred million guaranteed to come be the head coach.

Speaker 2

Here because of what we just did to the last guy.

You're good for that, right, Oh?

Sure, check after check after check, and.

Speaker 3

You're talking, I mean, honestly, Josh, you're talking an eighty eighty five million dollar decision.

Yep, maybe more if you were to go down that route.

And it's not realistic in today's landscape of college football.

So it's unfortunate that a lot of it goes a certain direction because I never think it's all players fault.

I never think it's all coach's fault, just like it's never one player's fault, just like one play never decides a game.

Speaker 2

But I will say this, I have lived through a few of these.

Speaker 3

I'm not going to act like and listen.

I live through the mics and saw that firsthand.

I was here the last time they played Ulm at Brian Dennyan lost.

I know what that meltdown was like.

I don't know about you, but this one feels like it got a lot more toxic, a lot more quickly than a lot of the others in the past.

Speaker 2

And I don't necessarily know exactly what the reasoning is for that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well I'll tell you why.

I don't think that leadership at Alabama necessarily consulted everyone who believes it's their birthright to be consulted before they went and made the higher of Kaylen Debor.

Speaker 2

I think what you're trying to say is he ain't from the South.

Speaker 1

That's exactly right, Saban.

Now, Sabon was bored in with Tumka, That's well known.

Saban never absolutely Saban walked in town with a straw in his mouth.

But Kaylen Debor now, uh, Kaylen de Bor, the Pacific Ocean, the Puget Sound.

So I think that's part of it.

Now, I think you get this, this kind of win win or lost lost stance, depending on how you view it.

Where Now we warned him, you know, we warned old greg Burn there.

This may not work out, may not, by the way, may not work out to where you get to reap all the rewards and the benefits if they win.

But you also get to have the I told you so in my back pocket if it goes sideways.

And then so here's what I wonder.

And for anyone who's curious about what we're talking about, it is a bad time in the state of Alabama right now.

There's been a lot of talk about boosters unhappy and and hey, the unrest is real, you know.

That's what people keep telling me.

It's not made up.

It's real.

I don't doubt it's real.

You know.

Manure is real.

When I pass a cow pastor, that's real.

It's there.

Not gonna do much with it, but it's real.

But I will ask you this and anyone.

I guess I could just speak into the void.

So let's say Cole Kublick is the biggest donor they have.

Let's say your picture is hanging up in the Malamour facility there when you walk in, and everybody just steps to the side when you stroll across campus.

That's how big a deal you are.

I assume you want Alabama to win.

I assume that in your heart of hearts a perfect Saturday, as you're up forty two to nothing in the fourth quarter and the starter's coming out and you want to see championships and blah blah blah.

Do you think it's best accomplished by running your mouth to writers and having them anonymously citing you talking about how we're ready to make a move if he doesn't get the job done, or maybe keeping that in house.

What do we think gives the football program a better chance to succeed?

Because I keep looking at this and how laughable and how much of a circus it is from the outside, and I don't necessarily think some of the clowns inside the circus really realize that, well, we have.

Speaker 3

Seen what it looks like when it's the part that you're describing about two and a half hours West.

Yeah, one coach ago when a lot of folks decided it would be best to go to certain writers and make up certain stories and have those printed and have those on message boards, and it ended in an ugly divorce and all of a sudden, everybody thought they were loving what they had up until last Friday night that was on rocky terms.

So I personally would want it all to stay in house as much as humanly possible, because I would want to be able to fix the problem that not potentially caused.

I think you know, like I know, egos don't allow that to happen, and it's never going to be the reality.

So one of the biggest possible downfalls of this higher switch or replacement was the amount of people that had not had their tentacles.

Speaker 2

On that place or in that place that.

Speaker 3

We're going to be able to at least attempt to do it and maybe get back inside there.

Because I've said it for a long time, Josh, I think you and I have talked about this.

The greatest accomplishment Nick Saban had at Alabama was stiff arming certain people out of there and removing their control.

And he didn't do it to them individually.

He went to the administration and said, get them away or it's.

Speaker 2

Not going to work.

And that's it, bottom line.

Speaker 3

So stay away, let us do what we do, you help the way you help, and we'll move on and win championships.

Speaker 2

And they did.

No other coach has been able to do it to the effect that he did.

Speaker 3

I would imagine that Cale in to Bore struggles with a lot of people that now feel like, well, Nick's gone, so I deserve my time to be back in there.

And it's not necessarily comfortable to have to manage that, especially now with nil and you need the money that those guys can provide, and you probably need it more times than you ever needed annually.

It's tough, but you're not going to be able to keep them from keeping their mouths shut and getting their way.

I'm not just reverencing Alabama here, I'm referencing Mega Booster in general.

At big program.

They're all going to want to get their message out through certain people.

Speaker 2

It's just it's it's how they operate.

Speaker 1

It is it's amazing.

So I've talked to you about this, but I want to talk to you about it on the show.

So that was like a sledgehammer to the face.

The result was like A said, let me tell me, hold.

Speaker 2

On, I gotta go back real quick.

I forgot to do this.

Speaker 3

It's not necessarily rough times in Alabama right now, because I mean, Auburn did just run for three hundred to Getst.

Speaker 2

Baylor on the road Friday night.

So it's it's not all it's not all bad.

Dred Dilfrid did win his opener.

Speaker 1

You know, that's not an undersized Baylor front.

I was told that was.

That was a front that was ready, willing and able to take on the task, and then the task found them and not so much.

So, if you're done interrupting, I do want to talk to you about the Alabama out come itself, because that was a sledgehammer to the face to me.

So you've got their game this weekend, actually, so great timing on your part.

But I remember talking to you throughout spring, throughout summer.

You go over there and watch and practice.

I go over there and watching practice.

We both talked to a lot of people who watch in practice.

Was there ever any inclination forget about any one person's viewpoint collectively people you trust?

Was there ever any inclination that any kind of threat of what we saw last Saturday was on the horizon, because I will tell you the feedback I got it was swift, and it was immediate, and that was Don't you feel like an idiot now for saying what you said about your observations when you watched in practice and the vibe that you got from them.

Look, I fully admit, Hey, man, I could whiff, So look beyond me.

I mean, you've probably talked to a dozen people who were around that program in the fall.

It all sounded pretty much the same to me.

I noticed a lot of people saying what I was saying.

That was what took me so much by surprise.

But I kind of wanted you to share some of the feedback, you know, some of the generic intel that you had gotten and then how badly it didn't sync up with the result.

Speaker 2

Well, there's four or.

Speaker 3

Five people that either played there or have been there, that were at practices this fall that I spoke to that said similar things.

It's not the exact same thing that you did.

The physicality seemed like it had rammed up a little bit.

That might be the oddest part of what we're talking about and what we saw on Saturday afternoon that it was fast.

Speaker 2

Guys look athletic.

A couple of guys looked like they were.

Speaker 3

In better shape than they had been in the previous year or years.

And that didn't seem to be sloppy.

They're not dropping snaps.

There's now procedure penalties.

Speaker 2

It was clean.

Speaker 3

It was crisp, And that's from Ian McElroy told me that.

And I trust his opinion and his eyes when he's there watching that, probably more so than anybody because of his history there and what he does and how he knows ball.

I talked to Corey Reimer about it.

We had Tyler watch on the show who does Radio.

He talked about it.

I mean, it wasn't just you that was saying that.

I mean it was eight nine, ten people who I spoke to that all said the exact same things.

And I think we spoke at Media Days and I brought it up to you.

I said, this late momentum for Alabama of not just being able to win, but deep in the playoffs, national championship, I just feel like there's a lot of people jumping on board with that.

And I think some of it was that people generally got to see them and felt great about and felt great about.

I mean, Greg and I talked about it on our show.

Which team did you fear more or feel better about?

Speaker 2

Either way?

Really?

Speaker 3

Alabama last year, Alabama this year, And when you started going through position by position, there were a lot of reasons to be a little bit more concerned if you were playing against them.

Speaker 2

About this team this year.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And you know, it's one of the biggest oddities I have seen in college football in a long time.

Speaker 2

And I've shared this with you.

Speaker 3

The reason for that is there are a lot of people on Sunday posting their clips of you know, Bray Hubbard not chasing a guy or safety's not running after a guy twenty yards in front of the field.

Speaker 2

That's scary, and you don't like that.

It's not good.

But Josh, that was That wasn't even.

Speaker 3

A third as bad as the stuff that I saw that I was concerned about.

Speaker 2

And the things that I was concerned.

Speaker 3

About was the lack of physicality and the fact that Alabama.

Speaker 2

Absorbed for almost four or full quarters of that game.

Speaker 3

And by saying that, what I mean is striking their opponent from the defensive line position, from the linebacker position, from the safety position, striking their opponent from the offensive line, tight end running back position.

Speaker 2

I thought eighty played well.

I thought I thought Parker.

Speaker 3

The most unfortunate part of this whole thing is nobody's talking about how will Parker Brailes were played.

He plays rear end off and Jimmy Bernard also did.

And that's about it.

And to see guys getting pushed around, to see guys getting jarred back, I see guards double team and and combo and climbing up to Deontay Lawson and kind of having a free run.

Speaker 2

I'm used to c J.

Speaker 3

Mosley, Ruben Foster, Reggie Raglan, Rolonda McClain hop in that helmet and it's like, the way I'm telling you, the way it looks on film is like that offensive lineman's helmet.

Speaker 2

It kind of like jars back and just like just like that, and there's an offensive lineman.

Speaker 3

When I see that, you're like, ooh no, not good.

That's because the feet almost come off the ground.

You have to completely reset your body.

By the time you're they're doing that, they're shedding you off and they're going to make the play.

Speaker 2

And it was either Paddy Cake.

Speaker 3

Walk up to each other and hand fight like literally my eight year old and five year.

Speaker 2

Old will do or it was, and this was I'm I'm because I've ever seen this in an album uniform.

Speaker 3

Duck turns shoulder and take on block that way, not even front side shoulder, literally the back of the back side shoulder, so you're turning your back to the ball carrier, which from a defensive perspective, it's no different than anything else in sports.

You want to shoot a basketball, you probably to look at the rim.

You want to hit a baseball, you probably to watch the ball.

How are you going to tackle someone looking the way they're running.

It's not possible.

So Alabama has been the enforcer for a decade plus.

They have been the striker for a decade plus.

And I explained this on Read and React Monday night when Roman and I got into it.

A lot of people will say, oh, well, I mean whatever.

It's like, maybe they're faster, maybe they're more athletic.

The reason that's important is because for that period of time, Josh, when that was happening, there was nothing you could do about it.

There was no play call, there was no way to circumvent it, there was no formation when.

Speaker 2

You had to go Monoi mono on that guy.

He was kicking your tail.

Speaker 3

And that's why we have spread offense, triple option, hurry up, no huddle, offense, air.

Speaker 2

Raid because all those coaches said, with teams like that that could do that, that were capable of that, we have to have this to even be competitive.

Speaker 3

And Dust did a good job of bringing some of that out and they're guys got after them and won the game physically, and that's why you got the outcome that you did.

And I said, and I'll say it again, the scariest part to me is if that's.

Speaker 2

Gone, how do you win?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Do you out quarterback people?

Do you out offensive line people?

Speaker 3

Because that group didn't look like they're gonna just give solid protection all year.

Are you just out pass rushing people.

Is your defensive line that dominant to where they're just going to be in the backfield causing those kind of problems.

Are your safeties covering everything up to where it doesn't matter?

Because that didn't look like a reality.

So if that portion of here's what we do, good luck, buddy, is gone.

I mean, seriously, the board company are gonna have to scheme their pails off to win.

Speaker 2

Games this year.

Speaker 1

You know, a lot of people, even having watched Saturday, keep on circling the Georgia game.

We were on the phone earlier today.

You interrupted my workout for this.

I knew it had to be important.

And so you've got them this weekend play u Ellmanroe.

Then they've got Wisconsin coming in, then there's a bye, then they go to Georgia.

It's better part of a month between now and that Georgia game.

But what you're talking about all gets balled up into competitive character.

That's basically what basically what we're talking about here.

Let's just say it is a terminal issue with them.

Competitive character.

It's not a mirage.

What we saw in week one is really it's there and it's not going away.

We were talking earlier today.

Neither one of us expect, you know, u Elmanroe to challenge to beat them this week.

But we've both seen situations throughout history where a big favorite ends up winning a game.

But there's so many oh moments, there are so many warning signs, so many so much red sharpie all over that game to where you say this is going to manifest itself in something ugly down the road.

Likewise, with the Wisconsin game, that's a Big ten opponent coming in, not a great team in all likelihood.

But point being so, if we're talking through this and those flaws really are there, those are just permanent fixtures of the Alabama team this year or this yeah, this year, why is there such a certainty these next two weeks are all right, Well, we'll get it in order, and then when we go to Georgia, like I've been told all week, the Georgia game will tell the tale.

How do you know you won't learn a whole lot this weekend about that team?

Speaker 3

I think you will, And I think maybe the most intriguing part about this weekend is the folks that say what you just said, and that is they're gonna bounce back this weekend.

They're gonna they're gonna punish them, draw them into the ground, smash them, and then come back against Wisconsin.

And as you just stated, the scary part about that, and I want everybody to understand I'm still using if and maybe and could be because I don't know if this is a real problem.

It was one game.

I'm not judging a team, I'm not judging a coach, I'm not judging a.

Speaker 2

Player on one game.

Speaker 3

Because I don't know all the extra parameters of what was going on, and the circumstantial evidence has not been presented to me.

So I'm gonna give them another chance to show me who they may really be.

Speaker 2

The scary part, Josh, is.

Speaker 3

If that mentality and that competitive character is flawed, there's no reason to believe that they will do what Bamba teams of the past have done, or just other good programs in the past have done, and that is bounce back, smash face, go to the next game.

Because I would imagine if you are weak minded in a way that it forced you to play the way you did last week, it's gonna be harder to get ready.

Speaker 2

For this game this week.

Yeah, because no.

Speaker 3

One likes you right now, and everybody's telling you how bad you are, and no one's liking your posts, and no one's jumping on your Instagram lives, and no one's how many on your tiktoks and you're sitting there thinking what is happening?

So that to me would be more concerning than any of it if it's a big if, because we don't know that's what's going on, and that's a real problem right now.

Speaker 2

Well, I think we find out this weekend if that is a terminal flaw or if.

Speaker 3

That was something that they allowed to creep in and it's not just that day, because if it happened that way, it creeped in during fall camp, yep, and it prevented them from excelling the way that they needed to to be competitive in that game.

They didn't fall apart on Saturday morning in Tallahas.

That happened in fall camp and prevented them, somehow someway from being able to put up a better fight than what they did against Florida State.

Speaker 1

So that's the glass half empty part.

But you talked about using the word if.

I've tried to be very careful to do that this week too, because you never know.

You don't have revisionist history on your side, you don't have benefit of hindsight.

We're not sitting in December judging week one.

We're in week two judging week one, So September is going to give us a lot of context on what Week one meant.

Florida State maybe a top five team for all we know.

I want to ask you this, though, how much would it shock you scale of one to ten if you fast forward to the December and that team's in Atlanta playing for the SEC Championship anyway.

Speaker 2

Shock me, No, but I would be surprised.

Speaker 1

I would too, because.

Speaker 2

Here's the hardest part about it.

Speaker 3

Take the exact conversation that you and I had at SEC Media Days when you perfectly laid out the scenario of the difference between five and eleven or twelve.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what again, here's another if.

Speaker 3

What if we just threw Alabama and Texas into that race, and all of a sudden, it's there's two more teams in there, and it's it's literally three through twelve or thirteen are all the same, and you got to fight that uphill battle the entire season and essentially play flawless football to even be in the mix for that.

Because the ones that are looking like they're at the top, maybe it's just Georgia LSU.

Maybe Oklahoma shoots all the way up there, we don't really know.

If one of the other two teams does, you're still going to have to play more teams than a lot of people thought could even be in the mix.

Speaker 2

For an SEC Championship game.

Birth.

Speaker 3

So, I think now the thing that would surprise me the most is, though it appears is though we don't even have four teams in that upper quadrant of the SEC is probably a lot more crowded in the middle than we imagined at media Days, and we thought we had never really seen it that crediblefore since we've been watching football.

Speaker 2

So that would be the part that I would.

Speaker 3

Look at and say, I am surprised they ran through that shocked.

Speaker 2

No, they still have takeover players.

Speaker 3

They still have players that can dominate a game, and they still have a great coaching staff, and they still have depth that some other teams don't have.

So to be the things that can be repaired, there are easily repaired.

Proper pass sets not getting beat inside.

Understand now, you can't change your agility and lateral movement, which I've been trying to tell people the whole offseason.

Just because PFF says the guy's a first pick in the draft, Calm down.

He hasn't been through two consecutive spring balls, and we just think he's better magically, like to say, lucky charms, things don't just happen.

You earn things in football.

But they still have guys that can go out and be dominant.

Take the first series of the game.

I mean, I posted like three clips from the first series, like, good lord, they've got that be tackle seven yards downfield.

I might have just done that with the whole game, but the game was obviously one that wasn't going to allow them to play that way because what Forlorida State was doing offensively, I would be surprised.

But Josh, you know this, there is almost nothing that can shock me in college football these days.

Literally, we've seen more in the last two years that if you and I wrote a movie script, we've been.

Speaker 2

Laughed at a Hollywood.

Speaker 1

Yet you also never telling.

Speaker 3

Their coaches they're not playing in games and their starters after four games.

Speaker 2

Take that somewhere interesting.

Speaker 1

You also never know when a new normal is setting itself.

You never know when you're in the process of a new normal happening.

Speaker 2

Like you that's a scary thought right there.

Speaker 1

Well, you just never know, Like it's I mean, we're talking about pretty much non negotiables, terminal, this terminal that well, that's because your entire life playing and watching this game, my life watching this game.

There were a lot of things Alabama exhibited last week that if you see that, that's just going to be a problem that's going to derail any chance you have of doing this or that.

Well, that's based on history.

This based on certain pillars of college football throughout history.

You never know when the things that win and the things that can be tolerated, or the things that really matter and are really correctable and aren't you never know when that's being rewritten right in front of your face.

Like I remember when Ohio State lost that game against Virginia Tech that year.

They go on to win the national title, and people were sitting there after week one saying how overrated.

I mean, this is a historically overrated team.

After Week one they go on to win the title.

I'm sure they were conversations at that point pointing to this and this, which will be a terminal flaw on this team and it will keep them from going on.

Now, we were probably talking about schematic based things instead of things from the neck up, you know, things in here, maybe like we're talking about with this Alabama team.

But I'm like you, I'd be surprised by it, shocked though.

I hadn't seen the rest of these teams get pushed yet, I have to.

I tend to believe Bama was the first high profile example of someone getting exposed this year.

I'm not sure we don't have three or four more of them, some of them.

Speaker 3

Just more because there are so many teams that were way ahead of ourselves.

On again, like you and I have said, we don't know.

I said I was going to give it three weeks before I make any sort of definitive statements about anybody.

It might need to be five or six.

Honestly, you brought up Ohio State.

They're a perfect example right here.

None of us thought they were going to be as physical as they were last year.

None of us thought that the defense was going to be able to operate at any kind of a similar level to what they did last year.

Two edge defenders drafted.

You know, yeah, you had the best safety probably top three player in college football coming back.

Speaker 2

Okay, but could he mask everything?

Look how they looked up front.

Speaker 3

Yeah, they gave Texas's offensive line, which it's mostly new.

Yes, a lot of problems, But how about the flip side of that.

They went out there and pushed Texas around and, by the way, won that game without having the best player in college football get to seven catches.

So they found different ways for a new quarterback and a limited best player on their football team to go out there and get a win, which at the end of the day is almost more impressive to me than going to beat somebody forty to nothing.

You take all the things and all these uncertainties and you say, we're not gonna let that beat us.

We're not gonna lean on that to the point to where if it's not.

Speaker 2

Elite today it crushes us.

We're just gonna go win a game.

And that's what Ryan Day did.

Speaker 3

And so that's almost the flip side of what we're talking about right here is the team that everybody looked at and.

Speaker 2

Said no, no, no, no, no, no, probably not, I can't see it, definitely no.

And they went out there and got a big yes.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

We only been doing it for three years.

Yeah, I mean sorry, guy.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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It's this guy's podcast.

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Speaker 3

I feel like that's a stretch.

We've been moving slow here.

No, in the off season.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

I will say the advantage we have getting a twenty thousand is we didn't take four weeks off before the season started, so.

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