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It is Thursday.
It is October second.
The Arm of Our Lord twenty twenty five were jam packed hi atop a very warm downtown Nashville, Tennessee.
I told everyone false fall was upon us.
You remember three or four weeks ago, Week one, it was gonna be in the seventies.
And then I said, it's not over.
It's not over.
Summer's not over.
Well, now summer is over, but summer temperatures still linger.
It won't last forever, I promise you.
Eventually we'll get to a point where it's twenty two degrees at kickoff in Columbus, Ohio for a playoff game, or maybe not because they have a first round by anyway, Upset alerts on the show tonight, Yes, yes, yes, yes, we got them all over the place the commissioner's pole drops in just a matter of minutes, got some movement, got some teams that I did not expect to be ranking.
I didn't expect to be ranking teams period, but here we are.
I didn't expect to be ranking these teams in the top twenty five.
But yeah, I am a fair ranker.
I watched the games, which you know what, I'm not even gonna say it, dynasties.
Lane Kiffin had to say something about dynasties, and I agree with him, and I really wonder how much the college football public has realized how dead the concept of dynasties are in college football, and also what it means about competitive balance and parody.
Because everyone claims they want it, and there's some great things about it, there's some other things that I just think we need to bear in mind about it.
I'm going to talk about that, and we're really going to just use it until Kublick picks up the phone a little bit later on.
So it could be a four minute segment, Jesse, it could be a nine minute segment.
You never know.
Our balls are in his court.
They're watching us in Woodstock, Georgia, Montreal, Canada, best pro wrestling city in the country, actually in any country, because it's not in our country, Louisville or Louisville, Texas, Louisville, Kentucky.
I'm just gonna throw them in and Charlotte, North Carolina.
I have fortunate news if you go to bed early, unfortunate news if you're a night out.
I again have to do Friday Night Lines at five eastern fourth Central tomorrow on Instagram live at Josh pat CFB because once again I am being summoned to play softball before we fly down to Tallahassee tomorrow night.
And again, look, it's not like I want to do this.
It's not like I want to play church league softball on Friday nights.
Okay, I'm obligated.
I'm committed to the team and so as a result, we just have to shape our Friday accordingly.
Again, this is my sacrifice.
So you think I want to just be playing softball, You're crazy.
No, absolutely not.
But I have to do this.
I have to do it all right, here we go.
Last week this segment ended up being pretty prophetic.
The upset Alert meter, powered by our friends at flex Power mind You is pinging once again and get good generators at flex Power.
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The upset alert meter generated some serious shockways last week.
Remember Jesse when we dared even mention USC and Illinois and people are like, why are you even talking about that game?
Why are you even throwing that game in there?
Well, the line was six and a half.
What Virginia is not going to beat Florida State?
Why are you even throwing that in there?
Oh?
I think we'll just go ahead and mention it anyway.
Bam bam bam.
It's like the opening scenes of Armageddon, just asteroids all over the place the movie, not the portion of revelation.
People calm down.
So Kentucky's playing Georgia this weekend.
You know they go to Athens Georgia classic get right spot line is twenty and a half.
All right, so just dust your hands off.
Good hard fought win over Kentucky.
Well is their upset alert potential here?
Both teams are off losses, not just Georgia.
Kirby, I don't know if you've ever listened to him talk about Mark Stoops in Kentucky.
You cannot get a question out of your mouth about Kentucky without Kirby reminding you how physical Kentucky is how much those two programs believe in the same principles and how close the games have been, how competitive the games have been, And he's not wrong.
First paper pop of the night.
Are you aware that Kentucky has held Georgia to twenty one or less in four of their last six meetings?
I am again because stats and Info informed me this was a knockdown, drag out.
What was it like fourteen to thirteen last year?
Now that was up there.
This is gonna be at Georgia.
Georgia going from facing the number two passing defense in the country to facing number one oh six.
This is where I feel like that wide receiver corps can really get back to work.
Georgia is gonna have to have that anyway.
I think they're gonna find it here.
Now.
On the flip side, Zat Calzada is back for Kentucky, and I leave it up to you.
That's open for interpretation.
You make of that whatever you want.
I just know that stylistically this matchup has always yielded weirdly competitive outcomes.
It's a matchup thing.
Kentucky cannot tote Georgia's jock when it comes to comparative program strength, but matchup wise, they always give them a hard time.
So I'm gonna put this at a five, which is way higher on the one to ten upset alert concern meter than a twenty point spread normally would be.
But that's where we are.
There.
Next up a game that had much much more marquee attraction in the preseason than it does this week.
Did you know Boise goes to Notre Dame.
Did you know that?
Well, fewer of you knew it than you would have had Boise not lost to USF or Notre Dame had not lost to Miami and A and M.
Because right now, I think we could have gotten some pretty good money if we bet that there would be a combined three losses in this game by the time it happened.
But yet here we are.
However, in the interest of upset alert concern here, I'm going to put a six on this game.
Notre Dame's favored by the same number as Georgia is over Kentucky.
Notre Dame's favored by twenty and a half, but Boise has pulled the nose up a little bit now.
They scored seven against USF in Week one.
That's the last time most of you paid attention to them, and I will grant you, I can't blame you.
They've scored fifty one, forty nine and forty seven since then.
They are top twenty rush and pass again because of that.
Notre Dame's defense good week last week on the scoreboard.
Have we just solved all the problems that we saw.
I'm sure there's a little bit different organizationally.
They're defensively because there had to be, so, I'm sure they've shaken some things up there.
Is it all just fixed after a fifty six to thirteen win against Arkansas?
Shame on you people for what you did, Sam Pittman, Shame on Notre Dame for what they did to him.
As long as CJ.
Carr is good, you're good in this game.
However, if Boise starts pushing you a little bit more, then you're comfortable with.
If that game looks like it's going to be played in the high twenties and the thirties again, then there's a chance that you turn it over.
There's also lingering in my memory the Northern Illinois game.
There's also lingering in my memory the Marshall game.
Marcus Freeman has dropped these kinds of games before.
Now, they weren't in desperation mode then like they are now.
They have no wiggle room, there's no margin for air.
They know they got to run the table here to make the playoff.
And even then some people are out there debating whether they'd make it him.
I'm gonna put a six on this one.
It is going to attract at least one of my eyes attention.
On Saturday, Texas texat Houston on Saturday.
Houston's undefeated, take notice, so is Texas Tech.
Houston's got the sixteenth rank defense in the country right now, and they've got Connor Wigman at quarterback.
Texas Tech's got a whole bunch of guys who you saw probably for the first time against Utah.
And what was notable of that about that game is, of course they went in there, they won I think thirty eight ten.
They pulled away from them, and they pulled away with their backup quarterback.
Well, he's back this week.
Baron Morton's back this week.
Now.
Houston is top ten in turnover margin, so they've taken the ball away so far this year.
Baron Morton's given it away a few times.
Joey maguire has squashed any talk of quarterback controversy anything like that.
Baron Morton's healthy, He's going to start for him.
Look, I just question if Houston does put forth a strong defensive effort here, even if they do for us a turnover, maybe they're plus one.
You can't predict this, but let's say they're plus one turnover.
Can they score enough?
Because Texas Tech can suffocate you.
I think this is going to be a lower scoring game.
With the lower scoring profile comes a little more variance in outcome.
Eleven and a half is the number here.
Texas Tech favor by eleven and a half.
I'm putting a five and a half on it now.
Candidly, I picked Texas Tech to win and cover, but I didn't bet it just to pick.
I'm gonna put a five and a half on it, though.
When you can play defense, you give yourself a chance.
Clemson, Clemson's playing North Carolina.
What do you think the number is?
Fourteen and a half is the number?
Clemson minus fourteen and a half?
Clemson coming off the buy And I got to tell you something.
The model here, not me, Let me stress, not me.
The model loves North Carolina this week.
I say that publicly because that's the last Ye're gonna hear of me talking about betting North Carolina this week.
I'm not doing it.
I am not gonna be that guy.
But the Model wants me to be that guy.
It has North Carolina plus fourteen and a half inexplicably circled as one of the best bets of the week.
Their offense is one hundred and thirty fourth in total yards per game.
They are one hundred and thirteenth in rush yards per game.
They're one hundred and twenty fourth in pass yards per game.
They're one hundred and eighth and third down conversion percentage.
They're one hundred and thirty fourth in explosive plays.
Clemson, last time you saw them was busy toting another l They are off a by It is the most desperate get right spot imaginable.
Dabo has basically been fending for his life up there at press conference podium, and now we get to play football again.
Clemson if they have a slow start here, Honestly, I still don't know how it would happen.
I don't know how the upset would happen.
The numbers fourteen and a half.
Okay, I would be way more shocked at this upset happening than I would boise over Notre Dame then, I mean would this would be right up there with some of these three touchdown spreads.
So I just don't get it.
But the model does, or it thinks it does.
Anyway, I'm gonna put a four on this one.
Huh, three and a half.
I'd have to see it to believe it.
Next up, Penn State favored by twenty four and a half at UCLA.
It's a two for me.
It's a two on the upset alert concern scale.
If Penn State's just normal, this is a blowout win.
This is medicine.
I mean, you build that home game up against Oregon and then you drop it in the fashion you did.
This is medicine.
You are sick, and college football's remedy is go play Ucla.
There's all kind of staff upheaval there, and actually, those of you who have watched the show for a number of years, you know we love betting on backup quarterbacks, and we love betting on teams when coaches have been fired because we think that the hit that they take in power ratings is actually over corrected, and we think there's value there here, not in this particular case.
So Penn State just lost Tony Rojas maybe for the year for an extended period of time.
And he's one of the guys we had circled.
They're about four of them on Penn State's defense.
They really can't afford to lose, and they just lost one.
I just don't know that it bites them this week.
Down the road, it may bite him.
I don't think he's going to bite him this week.
Here's my question, Who's got the better quarterback in this game?
If you think that's disrespectful because the other guy's Nico iyam Alaiava.
If you think that's disrespectful to Drew Aller, look at the numbers and if you're listening on podcast, Nico's got the better completion percentage, He's got the better pass yards per game.
Drew's got him total touchdowns by one.
They Drew's thrown two picks, Nico's thrown three.
Nico's like quadrupled him up or something like that in or tripled him up in rush yards that it's an uncomfortable stat profile, trust me.
Producer Jesse had to make it earlier.
Today.
You think he enjoyed that.
No, he did not.
I don't know if Penn Sdy's got a huge quarterback edge here.
I know they should, I don't know that they do.
And if we rewind a couple of classes ago, it's two five star quarterbacks there.
And imagine just telling yourself, boy, they're gonna face off in twenty twenty five.
I would have thought it maybe in the national title game.
I would have thought it may be like a playoff semi final game.
Instead, it's Week five in the Rose Bowl, dozens of folks waiting for the game to start, most of them in blue and white.
And I'm gonna put a two on the upset alert concern scale here.
I'm not that concern.
Lastly, this may be the game kublicas this week.
I think we'll ask him in a little while.
Mississippi State's at Texas A and M.
A and M's a fourteen and a half point favorite.
Mississippi State off a gut punch of a loss in overtime to Tennessee at home.
A and M is off what the locals are calling a flawed win.
Okay, Mike Elco none too please that he was getting criticized out there, the gloomy questions his words, not mine, gloomy questions, and the press are after a win.
He had to set them straight out there.
They beat Auburn sixteen to ten.
They've also hung forty plus on the road to beat Notre Dame.
Mississippi State.
They can throw the ball deep.
They got that capability.
They're top ten and passes A thirty plus forty plus fifty plus, so the super explosive the sees if you will, they're pretty good at that.
However, they allow sacks, so they've had a hard time protecting the quarterback, and A and M notably can get after the quarterback.
A and M top ten and sack percentage per drop back and Mississippi State in the one hundreds in sacks allowed.
Mississippi State can create turnovers, though, so look for efficiency from Marcel Reid.
If it's there, they're okay here.
If it's there, State is an undervalued team.
Still.
I think this number was put out by FanDuel begging you to take Mississippi State.
I took Mississippi State because I see the trap being set.
But I think we set a counter trap in that I think Mississippi State's still a little undervalued, and for our purposes perpi plural of purpose, this week to bet State is probably a good thing.
They lost that game against Tennessee.
They tasted what could be, but then it got snatched from their fingertips.
And now they go on the road and now they got to fight and the Jeff Levies.
They got to find a way to win one of these games.
They got to get that program.
Definer.
You got the Arizona State game.
It's not a conference game.
I'm gonna put a seven on this one.
I think this is going to be a competitive game.
And there you have the upset Alert meter for week number six.
I've got huge breaking news, Jesse.
I think we can call this breaking news from Quick Trip, exclusive fuel provider of the Fall, don't lie tour no Less.
We're headed to Tallahassee this week.
That's not the breaking news.
The breaking news is happening north of US.
It is October two right now.
So I'm giving you a whole week.
But if you're listening anywhere near Cincinnati, if you're listening, I'm sorry about the Red season coming to an m I'm gonna make you forget all about it, though, Westchester, Ohio, a little just northeast of Sincy.
Friday, October tenth, we're having a rare regrand opening of a Quick Trip.
Why are they regrand opening this thing because we missed it the first time?
Are bad?
Okay, we'll take the fall for it.
In return, you get a whole regrand opening up there.
Now here's the way it works around here.
If you're new, Quick Trip opens new stores all the time.
And our challenge to you is we're gonna take like five of you.
If you prove to us that you went to the regrand opening, we're gonna send child Life Supremacy out.
I got four new boxes of Childli that I keep forgetting to bring in here, So if you're waiting for us to ship them out, they're coming.
Don't worry.
But I'm giving you advanced notice.
It's not this weekend.
It's next weekend.
Also, U see f's intown to play Sincy.
I think the next day, So just make a make a trip of it.
I would if I weren't going somewhere else.
Next weekend.
It's right up the road.
So that's next weekend.
I'll remind you again as we get closer.
But yeah, we'll be in Tallahasseee.
I keep trying to say tomorrow.
We'll be their Saturday.
Actually we'll be there late tomorrow night, but we'll be there Saturday.
Looking forward to it.
Have not been to a Florida State home game since twenty sixteen.
It's time for the drought to end.
All right, let's continue.
The Commissioner's pole has just dropped.
The paper's still hot, fresh out of the printer.
These are not Power ratings.
These are in fact rankings.
I did it once early in the season, and then everyone said, we want you to do it.
Then flex Power hit us up and said, we'd love to generate that.
We make generators, we'd love to generate the Commissioner's poll.
And I said okay and okay, and then I started to have fun doing it.
So now it's a staple of every week's show, especially since someone has to market correct the abysmal nature of the ap pole here lately.
So I'm not afraid to move teams, but I am going off merit.
I'm measuring resume and I am not trying to predict what you're gonna do.
That's the JP Poles job.
That's on Tuesday.
No, This is just about what you've done.
So let's take a look.
Twenty five through twenty one.
Us F is still holding strong.
Memphis Memphis G five.
Josh is happy to report that Memphis has showed up.
The interlocking Mississippi State logo is still there.
We had state like twenty ath or nineteenth last week and they lost to a team in the teens.
We don't think they should drop all that much.
They've still beaten Arizona State too already, so and I don't care what I think they'll do.
Okay, if they go get beat by thirty Saturday at A and M, I'll adjust, but I'm not measuring what I think you're gonna do.
Illinois has checked in.
Just saw them in person last week.
They're at twenty two.
Louisville is at twenty one.
Louisville, Illinois, and Memphis were all unranked last week, So welcome to the party, guys.
Twenty Penn State has dropped.
Penn State has dropped.
Not in the ape pole, you know, but for those of us who actually believe in measuring resumes instead of what we thought in July and baking what we thought in July.
Like I mean, we got folks still operating off conversations they had at media days with Penn State's AP pole ranking No.
Penn State's twentieth, and they're lucky to be there.
Michigan is nineteen, Texas is eighteen.
I'll get back to Texas in the second Tennessee is seventeen.
Lsu drops to sixteen.
I have been accused of being a Texas homer for a long time.
I was aware of those allegations, and I know where it comes from.
We've given preferential treatment to Texas on the show.
I go out there all the time.
I actually low key.
You know, I shouldn't say I love it because that'll ruin the stereotype that surfaced about me.
The model has always been drunk on Texas.
So when it comes to the JP Pole, when it comes to power ratings, we've always got Texas rated high.
I've always been aware of those allegations.
What I was not aware of, Jesse until this week, until the last seven two hours, is there are rumors circulating on the Internet that I have become a Texas hater.
A friend of the program, Will Compton, has fanned these flames, but he didn't start the fire.
Billy Joel Didton, Will Compton didn't.
But it hasn't always burned since the world's been turned in, So where did it come from?
Well paid State investigates Trademark has tracked it down to a few message board threads wherein some lives are being spread.
It's the nature of message boards.
And should I sign up for an account just so I can log in to defend myself?
No, I will not, But I'm going to tell everyone the same thing I told that random dude who has a Lamborghini as his profile picture on Twitter last night.
If anyone wants to bring concrete evidence of me being a Texas hater, that doesn't include me making a prediction on a game you disagree with.
Any concrete evidence, bring it to the attention of me, or bring it to the attention of the staff at Texas, and they'll bring it to me.
But it hurts.
It hurts to hear those allegations.
Who's to the funk it Texas hater whoms to the funking Georgia.
We got them at fifteen, they dropped ten spots.
We got Bama at fourteen, I got Florida State at thirteen.
I was wrestling with this because I still have this power ratings mentality in my mind.
But that's not what a poll is, that's not what ranking should be.
So I think Florida State and BAMA have comparable resumes, Like their best win FSU's is over Bama, Bama's is over Georgia.
So anyway, if I think they're comparable, I've got to acknowledge the head to head result, right, So that's why Bama's of course going to go ahead of Georgia.
But that's why FSU's got to go ahead of Bama.
Now, Bama's got Vandy this week.
FSU's got Miami this week.
So this could solve itself.
This could work itself out.
Remember we adjust, we start from scratch every week with the Commissioner's pole here.
But I do have FSU at thirteen.
I've got Missouri at twelve, Iowa State's at eleven.
This is another classic case of people who keep on keep on voting and ranking based on what they expect to happen.
Like you expect Iowa State will end up losing some games.
Some people think they'll lose to SINCI this weekend.
They're down two starting corners.
Irrelevant, irrelevant, irrelevant, what have they done?
They've beaten a bunch of Power four teams.
Oh josh, but it was just Kansas State and it was just Arizona.
It was okay, who have the rest of you beaten?
I didn't rank them third, but I put them eleventh.
They're undefeated.
Who am I supposed to put above them?
I got ten teams above them?
But like, who beneath them definitively has a better resume than Iowa State Right now, I don't know.
Georgia Tech's at ten.
I got Indiana at nine, Texas Tech at eight.
I've got Vandy at seven again, not because of what I thought about him in the preseason, because of what they've accomplished, which, by the way, begs the question if Vandy goes into Tuscaloosa and win Saturday, where could they How high could they end up?
Texas A and M I've got at six.
They are up five spots.
Still looking good, still looking good.
Of course I've got that Tech SAgs money in my pocket, so of course I would have A and M ranked in the top six.
Why not top five?
Because Billy Luchi didn't pay me enough.
That's why top five?
Oh you the John Matier injury is not baked into this again because the materiar injury has not lost them a game yet.
I'm not predicting what I think will happen.
I'm just ranking what has happened.
Ole mess is four, Oregon is three, Ohio State two, and I got Miami still number one, which means we are going to see the number one team in the country according to the Commissioner's poll in about forty eight hours.
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Flane Kiffin's been talking and making a lot of sense.
So someone asked me if I saw this thing that Kiffin was talking about, and I did, so we're gonna throw it in the show here for just a second and then we'll get to Cublic.
Carter from Norfolk, Virginia hit me and said, did you see what Kiffin said about dynasties being over?
Isn't this something you've said before too, Yes, and yes, Carter.
So this was with ESPN.
I think Lane Kiffin was talking to ESPN, and I don't even know what he was asked, but you don't really need that to know the context here.
He said, in my opinion, dynasties are over Alabama with coach Saban and then Kirby at Georgia where they had those rosters year in, year out, and they'd be a bunch of wins by thirty in the conference.
Those days are done.
When I was at Bama, they'd be like, go watch the outside linebackers.
There's six of them over there that are first round picks.
That's not going to happen anymore because if they don't play, then they're going to leave.
They can't keep them all anymore.
Well that's true, all right, So what does this do like?
First off, yes, he's right, He's unequivocally right.
The concept of a dynasty in college football, to me, has to be re engineered or reimagined to just be who has their team in contention to make the playoff every year.
If you could, if you could freeze college football right now and in the climate that exists currently, if you could go ten straight years of being within reach giving yourself a punch chance at winning a title, that's that's dynasty worthy.
But that's not how people define dynasties.
They defined dynasties by winning championships, and by that metric, I don't know that you're going to do that in college football anymore.
Now.
I don't know what the future holds.
Big changes could happen, but if things are the way they are, or they continue to trend further down the road that they've gone down.
No, now, not a lot of people are complaining about it because it's brought a lot more competitive balance to the sport.
So what does it mean.
It means more wide open conference races and more wide open playoff field pictures.
Yes, it does mean that.
It means more upsets because you kind of shaved the tops of the tallest trees, which means there are no more, you know, like insurmountable hurdles out there.
There's more volatility week to week.
That's how you have.
You know, already we've seen Florida State beat Alabama, then go loose to Virginia.
We've seen all kinds of crazy stuff, and that's always in college football.
I just think in the aggregate, there's more of it now, and there will be more of it moving forward.
It's still a pretty small sample size because we've only had things as they are a few seasons.
So that'll continue down that road.
Think about the second half of the season.
See, this is what worries a lot of coaching staffs.
A lot of coaching staffs look at it and say, we're thinner than we've ever been before.
Maybe that doesn't bite us in September, maybe we get through early October, but by the time mid October gets here, no one has escaped injury.
Some of you have been bitten harder than others, but no one escapes it.
And if the fact of the matter is if you're Georgia, if you're Alabama, if you're Miami, if you're Oregon.
It doesn't matter anybody here.
No one's immune from this.
You are so disproportionately more vulnerable to one or two key injuries creating massive, massive fissures on your team profile than they used to, where you just backfill with, oh man, well now we got to start a five star true freshman, like that was your vulnerability.
Now it's not that anymore because the guy that you would have plugged in there is he went to start for USC, so he's not there anymore.
George is dealing with that right now.
Actually, so the depth thing bites those teams more the second half of the year.
Also the G five teams.
You know, it's one thing to watch the G five in September or be playing the G five team in September versus playing him in October and November, because they're frontline guys on the G five level, especially the upper tier of the G five, and I would know is G five, Josh, Those are just guys that couldn't quite make it on the Power four in some cases Power two rosters.
So they're going to start for a Memphis or Tulane or whatnot.
So if you're playing those teams in September and you're getting their fastball, there's not that big a separation between their front line guys and you if you're a Missouri or something like that.
But if you played them in November, that's one layer of jelly there.
Once you scrape past the top layer, that's when the depth really disproportionately bites the G five teams.
So the net result of all this is good to the public.
You're looking at the team portal rankings from on three this past cycle Texas, Tech, lsu Ole, miss Oregon.
You just had a lot of talent moving around and the public has looked at it, and what the public has picked up on is Wow, this makes the results a lot more randomized, It makes more teams able to compete, It opens up the playoff picture more more teams theoretically could win the championship.
That's the elusive parody, that's the elusive competitive balance that people had sought out for a long time.
And there's no catch there.
That really is happening.
That really is as it appears, And I don't have a problem with that.
I'm not fighting against that.
There is one thing I couldn't help but think about last week when I was at the Alabama Georgia game.
It could have just as easily cropped up in my mind this week or the week before, but I was thinking about it last week.
I was talking to a couple of people about it.
Last week.
I was standing there watching midway through the third quarter, and it's just collision after collision, and occasionally you got an injury time out and you're looking at the medical tent over their Kuway Russol for Alabama walks buying a boot, and immediately your mind starts going, ooh, what's their depth situation there?
And then you're looking at a clean white jersey out on the field and it's a true freshman, or it's a red shirt freshman who hadn't played, and they probably weren't planning on playing them.
And so that's a first world problem, cause you know, Bama's second stringers are still really good, but I was thinking to myself, they're not nearly as good as they used to be, nor are Georgia's, nor are anyone's.
And so I thought to myself, the rosters have never been thinner for the big boys than they used to be.
They're about to a ninth conference game in the SEC, they've already done it in the Big Ten.
You're also adding at least one marquee out of conference game, So you're really gonna play at least ten high level games every year with thinner rosters.
The expectations are gonna be really slow to recalibrate, because Kiffn went on to say, and I agree with him, they're gonna be a lot of pretty good teams that go eight and four, maybe even seven and five, just because of how compacted the nature of the field is.
And people are still clinging to this idea that you know, ten and two, that's kind of your baseline, and maybe we'll go eleven and one, but ten and two, nine and three worst case scenario.
That is not the worst case scenario, even for high level teams anymore.
And so you got all that and you throw it in a blender, and no one's gonna feel sorry for coaches because they're gonna make a ton of money.
But I was just thinking to myself about how big an ask that is.
Like those two things, converging thinner rosters combined with a way a tougher schedule moving forward and what November looks like.
And I'm just I'm in September.
I'm watching guys walk off in boots on the sideline and thinking to myself, if that guy's not back, what is the nature of that linebacker depth chart?
And that's that's even if no more injuries happen.
And so the one thing I was thinking, I don't know that there's an answer to this, But the one thing I was thinking is, all right, we all claim that we want competitive balance, we all claim we want parody.
Is there a line, like, is there a threshold that you go past?
And seeking out parody leads to diluting the on field product too much?
Cause, I mean, the bigger critical mass of younger, not as ready players that get put on the field, the lower the caliber of play is now in the NFL, that kills you.
Because the NFL is all about caliber of play.
College football is about a whole lot more than just the quality of play on the field.
So you could sell me that it doesn't matter, it'll always be relative, and it's about tradition and pageantry and all the stuff that sells about college football, and no one's really going to care if if Arkansas's outside linebacker room is really really fractional to the quality that it used to be, you may be right about that.
I was just thinking about it the other day, that that's one of the unintended consequences, or maybe an intended consequence that you don't have to worry about as much as a coach has to worry about.
But yeah, he's right, dynasties.
Who in the world's about to win three titles in five years?
Who's about to win three titles in ten years?
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Is that right?
Is that where you're going this weekend?
Speaker 2That is correct?
We will be there looking forward to it.
Out of the maroon.
Speaker 1Yeah, we expect a competitive game there, But that's actually not the one I want to ask you about.
First off, I want to ask you about a game that I drew a lot of heat for the other day because I had the audacity to pick the home team to win.
And I picked Florida to do a Mark Callaway special better known as the Undertaker, and to just do the full set up out of the grave and compete, you know, kind of like they did last year and win a football game here.
And I laid it out and it was tough, trust me.
It was one of those give me a game plan where twenty points is enough kind of routes, and I think I found it.
I found it enough where my heart was able to let me sleep at night the other night.
I think that Jaden Ball sees a whole lot more workload this weekend than he has recently.
I think there's still a lot to be seen, a lot to be proven from that Texas passing game.
They get to go into a really hostile environment here again for the first time since Columbus.
I don't know that the separation potential is there in the wide receiver room, at least like it was last year.
So I was able to resolve in my own mind, Florida's got a shot to win this thing.
What do you expect from Texas Florida.
Speaker 2There's a path in which you try to take that game that I can see it going.
The offensive line for the Florida Gators is gonna have to play a lot better.
Jaden Ba has the ability to get loose.
The problem is where a lot of the issues are with Texas.
It's not on that side of the football.
It's the other side of the football.
Speaker 3So if Florida were.
Speaker 2To win this game, I think you're gonna see arch Manning sacked four to six times.
I think one of those would have resulted in at least one turnover.
You may see a special team's touchdown from Florida.
You're gonna get great field position for the Gators to where they could take some shots towards the end zone.
But I don't see necessarily Florida's offense just going out and being the reason that they win this game.
Because Colin Simmons and company are still playing good football.
Michael Taffick company are still playing good football.
That Texas defense the all who has been playing great off the ball at linebacker.
It's not just the edge defenders, it's the secondary.
It's the linebackers trade more off on the football.
That group has still been outstanding.
Now the offense is where I have the issues with Texas, where they're ranked, the way people view them, what they kind of seemingly are in the public eye right now, Josh, because the playmakers aren't making plays.
You can try to go blame march Manning, and I do think he was pretty amped up in the beginning of the season.
Ashley thought the last two games he began to calm down just a little bit, began to find some rhythm, began to find that calm in the pocket that I think a quarterback has to have to truly go be elite or great.
The problem is when you allow UTEP to put out the best tackling performance I've seen this season in a single game because your guys were getting put into the ground in one on ones.
I'm not gonna be overly confident that your playmakers are gonna do that against a pretty good Florida defense.
And no, there won't be a Caleb Banks, but Tyreek scept George Gumms.
This is a Florida defense that can still get after you up front.
Speaker 3Secondary has some holes.
Speaker 2But the Texas playmakers, at least by the standard that I watched them a year ago, have not been doing those things.
Speaker 3And if that happens in this game and.
Speaker 2The Florida defense is able to get the ball to the end zone, maybe give good field position multiple times this came to the Florida offense, could they make it competitive?
Speaker 3Yes, the giant wildcard in all that, I don't know where.
Speaker 2Florida is mentally, I don't know where they are emotionally right now.
None of us are going to be able to put our finger on that.
None of us know.
Have half the kids mailed it in?
Are they extremely upset?
Frustrated and get a real mad on come out in this game.
Want to try to prove something.
They did it last year, can they repeat it again this year?
If they do that, then sure they can play with that team.
I don't think there's any doubt.
But Steve Sarkisan is too good of a coordinator to keep letting some of the headaches regularly take place.
Speaker 3With what they have been in this Texas offense.
Speaker 2But that offensive line hadn't been what I thought they were gonna be, and Florida has the front that could take advantage of that.
Speaker 1So Texas, I mean, I think you'd agree with me.
There aren't many programs out there just with more raw talent walking around the building than Texas, So probably, like you just said, I think most people would agree.
I expect a little bit more from Texas so far.
But the calendar just turned to October, so still a little ways to go, all right, and then you know, maybe that climb starts Saturday.
All right, think about that theme, but just go around the rest of the league.
I don't even care, go around the rest of college football.
For all I care teams that have shown flaws shown vulnerability so far this year.
That you think have the ingredients that they if they get it all in gear could hit a different gear, could get to November.
And you find yourself saying, like we do about three or four teams every year, do I don't want to play them right now?
Or Buddy, if they if they get in that thing, they could actually go win it.
Speaker 3Who is that there's a lot of them.
Speaker 2Let's just let's take Ohio State, Oregon, Miami out of this conversation, because we would all believe that they are there.
They have that there are known commodities within those teams, and I think that might be hard right now in college football.
Maybe the biggest challenge, Josh, is what do we know?
Like give me knowns in college football?
Like I know right now, Mad Hardy's the best running back in college football.
I don't know if Ohio State has the best offensive line in college football, but I think they got the meanest and the nastiest, specifically with what I saw last week against Washington.
I mean it was there was a head count at the end of that game with what that offensive line and tight ends did to the Washington defense.
Don't know if they're just the overall best, but right now They're the group i'd probably least like to face of all offensive lines in college football.
Speaker 3Miami's O line not far behind them.
Speaker 2They have trained killers on defense that want to try to decapitate you on every game.
Speaker 3So we know those three.
Speaker 2The first one that I would give you is Old Miss, and it would be the reason that they won the game against LSU.
I thought there were two big things that people missed in that game.
One Old Miss won the line of scrimmage.
I'm a dramatic pause there.
We're gonna place some period next to that, because there are no ifs, there are no ands, there are no butts.
We don't have to come in and put parentheses on this with an asterisk and say, oh, but these other things.
This guy was out, but this happened in the game or the situation.
No Ole Miss won the line of scrimmage.
And I think maybe the thought process on that that would get lost is you would immediately have to think that they got ninety five Nebraska and they just got mowed up and down the field.
Speaker 3Wrong.
Speaker 2The Old Miss offensive line doesn't have to do that with the way that they operate offensively.
But they got a.
Speaker 3Hat on a hat.
Speaker 2They strained, and they allowed Kwan Lacey, who is one of the most underrated players in college football right now because he doesn't have eleven yards of carry, but he is grinding out yards when that team desperately needs him to.
And they showed me they can win a little bit of a different style fight.
That defensive line is coming along.
That group showed up last week.
Speaker 3Now against an LSU line that hadn't played very good football this year.
Speaker 2So I think I think O Miss has the makings of a team that could, like you said, turn it on late and go Oklahoma.
I don't think we can really say right now because so much of that is on John Mattire.
If John Mattier is there, they are absolute that team because he is enough to carry you through multiple rounds of a postseason, because he's just that dynamic of a football player.
Now, our defense will keep him in any game, any game.
It's the best D line in the SEC, possibly the best D line in college football.
You put the front seven with that, they can go out there and keep you in almost any football game you're ever gonna play.
But you need John Matier to win a championship.
That's just the reality of it.
And then there's the kind of the team.
Alabama is absolutely in that mix right now.
We haven't really seen them turn the power switch on just yet, but it's gonna be tough to match up with that group of receivers.
When Ty Simpson is making decisions like he did a week ago, when you really go in and dissect it and you watch his eyes and how he took defenders off of routes and took defenders out of space to be able to complete balls in tight windows.
Speaker 3He knew exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 2He was precise, He made great decisions, and he had an understanding of how to operate that offense at its peak.
Speaker 3And that's all I care about.
Speaker 2Can a quarterback operate an offense like the other thing with old Miss You look at at Chambliss and everybody tells you, well, he's a playmaker, he can run, he's beautiful balls down the field.
Speaker 1Josh.
Speaker 2The biggest thing that Trinidad Chamblas does for me, the most important aspect he brings.
Speaker 3He avoids catastrophe.
He has catastrophe plays that he is faced with six eight times a game, and he gets out of them and he'll throw it away or he'll elude and make a three yard gain out of it.
He's not taking a fifteen yard sack.
He's not fadeaway jumpers trying to throw the ball down the field.
He's not fumbling because he's trying to get away from three defenders.
That young man avoids catastrophe.
And when you have an offense that's going to score anyway, those are the only kind of things that are going to allow a lot of teams to even get back in games with you.
So I still would not put Georgia out of this mix.
I would not put Tennessee out of this mix.
I don't even think I would rule Flarida State out of being one of these teams.
But it does feel like the list is dwindling of teams that could realistically turn it on.
I think we'll learn a lot more about Texas Tech this week.
Speaker 2We want to see them against Houston, another undefeated team before I really may I believe this or I know this about that football team and what they might be able to do second half.
Speaker 3Of the season.
Speaker 1You have done radio in Birmingham, Alabama all week the week after Bama beach Georgia, the week of Alabama Vanderbilt I don't know how to describe this.
I want you to describe what your existence has been down there this week.
My existence has been.
I've got a lot of Bama buddies who the week of a big game, you can always tell the hair on the back of the next up, the guards up the shoulders are a little more tense normally.
It's like when they'll play Tennessee or LSU or Auburn or something like that, and the questions will always be, you know, we got to make sure to do this, make sure to do that.
But the thought is always are as long as the volume knob is turned up to eight plus in this in this category, will win.
I've never heard him talk like that about Vanderbilt, is my point.
It's not that I've got Bama buddies who expect to lose Saturday.
None of them expect to lose.
I mean, this is Alabama, come on now.
But what they are talking like is the way they would normally talk if LSU was coming to town or they were going down there, or they're playing like a vintage Auburn team playing Georgia last week.
And so that's my side of it.
Like Vandy owns third down last year, they own time of possession, they win the turnover battle.
That's all stuff Bama did last week on the road at Georgia.
So I look at it and say, can you own those critical factors?
If you do, you should win the game Saturday.
It's really that simple and that hard.
What has your existence been like?
Three hours?
Three hours?
Yeah, three hours per morning with McElroy who's on the call, no less this weekend?
What has that been like this week?
Speaker 3Here's the thing.
You're almost doing it too though.
Speaker 2If this, if it's in, you're saying, how amazed you are that we're having this conversation about Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3That's the problem.
Speaker 2The discussion point should be we're talking about a good football team, not we're talking about Vanderbilt.
And I understand that there are certain people that will tell you that history never fails us in college football, and it will always go on as it should and will never hit.
Speaker 3Lulls or hurdles or obstacles.
Speaker 2But this is one of those peaks in Vanderbilt history that when we look at the seismograph and it's sitting.
Speaker 3There just buzzing on the bottom forever and ever.
Speaker 2And you get the James Franklin peak, Well, this is going to be taller than that one and higher than that one.
But the difference is this team does have real sustainability and the program may have more sustainability because of how it's being built and how Clark and the people around him have built it.
First off, Tim Beck gets no credit and deserves a ton of it.
The Vanner built offensive coordinators.
Speaker 3Who that is?
Speaker 2For the millions of people tuned in that have no idea who that guy was and they thought maybe I was referencing an old relief pitcher for the Giants back in the day or the Cubs, it's not Rod Beck.
It's Tim Beck.
And the guy's damn good.
He knows exactly what to do, how to manipulate things and the amount of reads and options that are involved in this offense now with more visual deception because they have real speed on the perimeter and an offensive line and that physically can at least match up better than any Vanderbilt offensive line I've ever seen.
That makes them an absolute handful Because going back to what we talked earlier, Josh about operating your offense, Diego Pavia does that as well as any quarterback in college football.
Now, that doesn't make him Jaden Daniels, It doesn't make him Caleb Williams.
It's not what I'm trying to say.
But when you put him in that with his experience, his knowledge and how he.
Speaker 3Operates a little bit, he puts it.
Speaker 2To a level that not a lot of the order quarterbacks can do with what they are given the card that they're given to drive.
So it is a handful to defend without Kway.
Russaw thinks it makes it more complicated for Alabama because they've become less experienced, left out athletic on the edges where they're going to attack on a regular basis, and there are a defense that plays really sound.
They trust each other, they know where to be, They leverage the sideline, they understand how to tackle, They tackle in pairs, they don't always get out there in space and try to tackle.
Speaker 3On their own.
Speaker 2They understand the finer parts of playing defense as a group, and Alabama is more talented.
Alabama has more speed, Alabama can be more physical, They can be more physically imposing based on the humans that they have out there.
But that doesn't always make you a great football team, and it doesn't always win games.
Speaker 3So I think the only ifs here, if we're gonna talk.
Speaker 2About it, is one is Alabama operating their offense to the level that they were last week and have the last two three weeks.
And if ty Simpson's doing that, I don't really think we need to talk about a lot of the other things.
They're probably gonna win the game because at that point, talent takes over when the operation of it is that good two Diego Pavea is gonna give you three to six, three to five.
O expletive plays a game?
Which direction do they go?
Because when you're falling down getting tackled and you pitch it behind your head, if your running back catches at and.
Speaker 3Goes forty yards, well that's one your way.
If you do that little fade away.
Speaker 2Backfoot throw into the end zone because you got pressure breathing down your neck and you don't know what else to do, and your receiver comes away with that, that's one for you.
When those two into fumbles for touchdowns or interceptions after a great drive, that's a massive win for Alabama.
So is Alabama operating where they have been one two, the O expletive diego pavia plays, Which direction?
Speaker 3To those go that's what decides this game.
In my opinion, how.
Speaker 1Do you gauge the energy coming out of LSU right now?
We saw what happened in the game against Ole Miss last week.
That result did not surprise me.
I know you well enough to know that result didn't surprise you a whole lot either.
So now you know you're listening to Brian Kelly talk about oh everyone's angry, everyone's angry here.
You know a lot of times you kind of got what you got.
And the real skill in this sport is looking in the mirror realizing, hey, I'm LSU man, like about ninety five percent of the country would love to have my problems.
Eventually, we got what we got in the room.
We gotta coach them up.
We got we gotta squeeze every drop out of the sponge that we possibly can, and hopefully it's good enough to win.
I just wonder, number one, if they're capable of doing that, and then number two if they're not, and if some losses, you know, start to stack up.
I'm talking like maybe an eight and four season, and that's a long way down the road, but I just wonder, like what the conversation would be then, But we can talk about that down the road.
As far as the here and now can't run the ball nuss Meyer's hurt.
I don't really know what they believe they have behind him.
I know what the name on the depth chart is.
I don't know that they believe they're comfortable going to him.
I just wonder, like, because I have no feel for what's going to happen the rest of the way with them.
I don't think they're done losing games, and so I just kind of wanted to get your take, wanted to get your read on LSU right now.
Speaker 2Yeah, the interesting part is when you look at some of the things that Old miss did to complicate the game.
When LSU was on defense, you still got Lenora Sellers, Diego Pavia.
I mean, you got Alabama, Texas A and m Oklahoma at the end of the year when John Matier most likely could be back.
Speaker 3I don't like seeing that in front of me.
Speaker 2And I will say this, Josh, and I don't think I'm not pointing finger at you here, but we came out of last weekend in the SEC with a huge misconception because if I looked at Twitter and I listened to a few podcasts and how people talked about games.
Alabama won by fifty two and Ole missed one by thirty nine, and Tennessee lost by eleven, and it's like that wasn't the way that these games really went those game.
I mean, you could say the same thing about Auburn, but against sexast A and m that one actually did look and appear to be as though the score was about twenty points different than it was.
So I don't even know if I'd categorize that, even though Auburn did have the football with the chance to take the lead late, just like LSU did, just like Georgia did.
So I don't know if that means that the teams that want aren't that good or the teams that lost aren't that bad.
But that's what I'm trying to sell to my group.
If I'm Brian Kelly.
Here are the mistakes that we made that were critical.
Here's how close we were in the end.
However, what you just stated, it's one of the things that Nick Saban did better than anybody self scout.
He would ask people around the facility.
He had a couple people that he leaned on and said, tell me what's wrong with me, tell me what's wrong with us?
I tell mean, he always went out there and said, okay, good, we're gonna sken that and we're gonna come out here and do it completely different.
No, but he wanted to at least have his eyes open to things that he possibly did not see.
There are a few of those for LSU.
I'll give them credit.
Seven plays against Old Miss.
They evened up the run formation, which means you're either shotgun two back or your pistol with the back right behind your quarterback, and you allow the perception of multiple runs being able to go one way or the other.
The shotgun offset to one side or the other gives the defenses too many advantages.
The offensive line has flat out not played good football.
Your quarterback's dinged up, obviously, but even he is still taking a few too many chances.
The ball starting into traffic last week were unacceptable on a very regular basis.
Speaker 3So those are things that can get cleaned up now.
Speaker 2Some of those include a certain level of physicality and talent and understanding and your technique and fundamentals and belief they're gonna change all that.
Speaker 3I don't know, like you reference not being able to run the football.
Speaker 2Do we know that because I think only thirty three times this year, if my statitician in Charlotte Monday afternoon was correct, they've run the ball on back to back downs this year.
Speaker 3That's not giving you a chance to live in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1You know.
Speaker 2That's being the one hundred thousand dollars millionaire in Dallas or whatever it is driving the Ferrari with your new sponsor.
Speaker 3Can go deal with you know, the two three.
Speaker 2Hundred thousand dollars debt that they have trying to pretend that you're something else that you're not.
So I think LSU needs to know who they are first and foremost.
I know what they want to be and what they think they are, and that is superstar quarterback with flashy weapons that can pitch it all over the field.
There's nothing you can do about it.
And our defense is going to punch you in the stomach.
And some teams can withstand a punch in the stomach.
Old miss did Old mis proved that you don't have to go score forty to beat that football team.
So there should be a lot of looking in the mirror, and there should be a lot of looking in there and saying we can't be that anymore, or we thought we were that and we're definitely not.
So we have to find other things that we can offset what we think we're good with and maybe try to give us some true balance down the road.
Speaker 3I still think they have one of.
Speaker 2The best defenses in the league, one of the best defenses in college football.
Speaker 3You can lean on that in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's why I'm not tapping out on them.
I refuse to tap out on Blake Baker.
That's an American hero.
I just have a lot of questions about the other side.
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I don't think there's any way we can graphic this or stat this or whatever.
But those things don't just read miles proud or they read output.
And that's when guys will be throttled back or taken out of games or their snaps limited because they know what your max output is, be it force blocking or speed running, changing directions all that.
Speaker 3If we could.
Speaker 2Measure the force output of all the bodies that step on the field for every SEC team, Josh, I honestly believe Mississippi State would win that.
Speaker 3Yeah, whatever, that competition would be called, whatever, it would be.
Speaker 2The output GPS meter Olympics, because these kids play their rear ends off and they now they might be going the wrong way playing their rear ends off, but they do it, and they love to hit, love to tackle, and offensively they get after it.
Speaker 3And they got a quarterback that knows how to.
Speaker 2They can't body everybody up in this league and match up perfectly or having this matches go their way, but man, they play hard, and I know Levy and those guys have got to be proud of that.
Speaker 1All right, go get some dinner.
I'm gonna do the same.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3Thank you, Josh.
Speaker 1And that's our show too.
We're out of here, remember Friday night, Lines five Eastern, fourth Central on the Instagram channel at Josh Pate CFB Tomorrow will then be headed down to Tallahassee tomorrow night.
We'll be on the sideline Saturday at Dope Campbell Stadium a I'm told, rocking done Campbell Stadium from Miami and Florida State and all of that behind the scenes, all access sort of thing will be in the Instagram story until Sunday night.
For director Bradley, for producer Jesse.
Thank you to the esteem the distinguished Cold Cubany.
I'm Josh Pate, take care of have a great start your week and enjoy the games and God bless.
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