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It's everybody's favorite time of the week.

It's survivor time Machine.

That's when to start it.

Like Chase, everybody's favorite part of the podcast.

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We're wearing some glasses today.

We have glasses boys.

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I want I want to point everybody's attention to my name on here house your house.

Uh.

Pinner was absolutely hilarious in these two episodes to.

Go over we can just get into it, I mean Penner.

He starts off episode twelve, and we're covering two episodes today, twelve and thirteen, so well.

And thirty ages to be And it's not because we want to get it over with so we can get to forty nine.

That has nothing to do, but just because logistically be anything time Machine right before our schedule.

We have time Machine this week, time Machine next week, and then the preseason show and then the week after that forty nine.

We're here.

We're here.

Gosh, man, this has been a long, hard offseason.

Pete gave up immediately went on eight vacations.

But you know how much have I missed?

How much have I missed?

Not a single one.

That's exactly right.

I never gave up.

I've been extremely professional throughout this entire process.

I do want to give people a little Can I tease it out a little bit of what's gonna happen later this week?

We mentioned people or in three weeks for the pre show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pre show coming out.

Yeah yeah, the pre shows coming out in three weeks.

But spoiler alert, we are.

Recording it this week with Jonathan in person, which is very exciting.

I get to see you guys like fight in person.

You know I'm gonna.

But I'm hoping what I'm hoping is me and PT immediately best friends with Jonathan Brand goes crazy and beats him up.

Yeah yeah, I.

Don't have a history of beating anyone up, but uh, I mean we'll see.

I mean, if there was a person to test that to its limits.

Because here's the thing.

We'll be in the Bramble Jam Studio, which is Brand's house.

I mean, not his it's not the house he lives in, but it's got his name.

On the least, I imagine, which means we live in a right, you know, a standyard round state, which means you can probably beat up anyone in that house, and legally you're okay, do.

We have to bring up stand your ground laws on Survivor Time Machines?

Yeah, Well, I gotta be honest with you.

If ever there was two episodes to bring up stand your ground, I think it might be these two episodes because there's a bit of standing your ground going on in these episodes as far as you know, kind of fighting for your life and just trying to shoot the guy.

Yeah, maybe that's gonna happen to Jonathan later this week.

You will find out three weeks that's right.

Yeah, but it's also it's not the contentious time for us, but because like Survivor, we're friends until like week four or something, until the draft.

Yeah, that's when it all goes off the rails for us interpersonally.

Go in off the rails on this crazy train.

Right gosh?

Okay, So Survivor Time Machine he has turned heel for like the fifth time in this season.

I mean, who does he think he is?

Big show?

There's a little WWE reference for everybody out there.

Did he have a show on Nickelodeon.

He did.

It was called The Big Show Show.

I think, really yeah.

He did.

It was a it was like a family sitcom as if he was like mister Huxtable or whatever.

They were like, we don't have Bill Cosby anymore.

Let's get Paul White.

Showed up Bill Cosby for no reason.

And I and I used his shoot name Paul White, speaking of white.

Oh yeah, speaking of the whites.

Poverty is sick to her stomach and in fact, she wants to puke on Jonathan's face, So thank you party for that visual.

But Jonathan, he's on the defensive and he straight up tells them that You'll has the idol dude.

But the funniest part of this they don't believe him.

They Parverty's face when he said it was just like a wait that he would even bring it up, like here he goes again, Like everything he said just pure outrage.

And it continues pretty much all day.

Poverty versus Pinner in full force.

Uh, He's shocked that she doesn't know how to gut a fish.

She's like very offended by the fact that it's day twenty something and she does not know how to prepare a fish, and then Adam says Jonathan sucks at life.

So it's like, it's clear.

What how many Poverty at this point, counting Australia versus the world has played Survivor so many times?

More time or days?

Count anybody day?

Anybody else?

How many?

And I'm not saying this because I think the number is low.

I genuinely want to know what you guys think.

How many fish do you think she is gutted since this moment?

Oh?

None?

Yeah?

None?

Really you don't think she's ever Like I've watched the Australian season, but none.

I will say.

Poverty is a phenomenal player in that she can show up to every season that she plays and play a relatively similar game and it work every time.

Like there's something to that.

I think she's one of the best players of all time.

Yeah, she's easily like top fifty.

Jesus, how many players have played Survivor.

That's I mean, it's interesting because you say top fifty.

That's kind of good though, like because she would be like top ten.

She's top ten first?

Sure, maybe I think she's top five.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's definitely you.

Could make an argument that she's the greatest ever.

Do you could you could make that argument.

I'm not sure i'd buy it, but you could make the argument.

We'll do that on another show.

Yeah, we need to during the on season when people are listening.

We should really just.

That.

Yeah.

No, no, it's the on season in the off season.

Why would you call it the off season if you're not going to call it the exact.

You're right, the college football on season just started and it's not going good for me.

Yeah.

Yeah, hey, man, you pick losers, just like how you're gonna pick a loser in season forty nine.

You're gonna lose the jow.

We'll see about all right, let's start talking about this episode.

Man, we've been talking about it.

It's auction time.

Everybody's favorite challenge?

Is it a challenge?

It's in place of the reward?

Yeah, so I like.

I like an auction.

I always like an auction.

This is one of the auctions that's like, oh man, they're not always fun for the players.

Well, there's one person in particular it was not fun.

For, but there's one person who had a blast.

Guys.

First up on the auction, pinner gets a hot dog and fries and beer.

He spills his beer all over every one.

This is just an omen of what's to come.

This is a classic.

This is a classic first entry to the auction because I feel like you can usually get usually get a pretty good deal if you're willing to bet early on because everybody with the first one, they're like, I'm not gonna bet on the first one.

And Penner got this for one hundred bucks with four hundred bucks left remaining, which it's cool, he'll kind of.

Bode well for him, but yeah, that's that's a good deal.

Like that.

This is what it always what always happens.

The first one is great and then everybody's like, oh we got a I should have gotten that.

That was only a hundred bucks, and then thin go get out of hand quick.

Yeah, it was interesting how much money it seemed like he had and this it was crazy.

Next up, Parv wins.

She gets a bath with chocolate cake for three hundred and sixty dollars because Pinner racked it up on her to where the bid kept getting higher and higher.

She spent most of her money on this bath in chocolate cake.

Yeah, they're gonna let him have a beer and a bath can't do that.

Come on, I don't like I wouldn't want a bat.

I don't really want a bath in general, but out when it's like really hot like that, I don't.

Want a hot bath.

Also, it's gonna go away soon.

That's so it's only gonna last so long when you're sleeping on an island.

Yeah, And I mean, I don't like how PARR kind of uh was sexist towards Adam.

When Adam threw in his bid, he was like ad ull Well then, but.

Then did you hear Jeff when when Penner been on it, he was like Pinner now with the lead, and no one wants to see that, Like, what the heck?

Jeff?

I think Penner's body looked great this season.

I said that a couple of weeks.

Ago, literally when Jeff was still kind of like reality TV brained, where he was like, oh, yeah, we want to see PARV in the bath.

Yeah.

But also, Jeff, I feel like Jeff.

And Penner have a very unique relationship and say he's somebody who Jeff is willing to go back and forth with that.

Not everybody gets.

Head privilege, and Jeff, don't worry, we will see PARV in a bath.

By the end of the season, you don't remember.

The I was gonna laugh, but then Brand didn't, and I thought it would be funnier if we ignored you.

Hey, we will see Parvan about the dead silence.

I'm just saying, Jeff, it's all right, you'll get your ratings thing that you want.

Yeah, dude, no, for sure?

How do I remember?

How could I forget.

All?

Right?

Next time?

If this episode wasn't explicit already it is now that's what happens when you got us recording at one point thirty in the morning, but not this but the Big Brother.

Okay, next up.

This is where things get really crazy because in this version of the auction, you're not allowed to share food, but you are allowed to share money.

You can give money to other players, and that is gonna come in handy with the advantage the advantages up.

Yule immediately starts giving Becky some money.

Adam lends money to Candae there in kind of a bidding war to try to get the advantage, and finally Becky wins the advantage.

And that advantage is sending someone to exile island immediately.

And when you send that person to exile island, you get to take.

All of their cash.

Can you take two guesses on who gets sent to exile island?

Hmmm, I think yeah, blonde.

Well you know what, that is what she gets for cheating on her husband.

Am I right?

Say?

Yeah, that's what she gets for going back in time and cheating on her husband before they met.

That's exactly right, you said it.

It is crazy though, that in this moment, because what Yu'll does is Yule looks at Becky and he goes, hey, they both still have five hundred dollars talking about Adam and Candace, and she chooses Candace.

I wonder if they had a conversation before where they just like every single time we went and we send them an exile, it's candace problem.

And I think this was the one time where maybe they shouldn't have because you could feel even Yule like, ah.

Like shit, and then Becky like wouldn't look at her when she said.

They felt terrible.

So Candace goes to exile, she loses all five hundred dollars of her money, and she doesn't get to participate in the challenge.

She has to get up and leave right then.

That's right, But big moment here because Jeff reminds her, hey, not all bad, because there could be an idol out there on exile Island.

Give her a little bit of hope, right, She's pretty said, give her a little bit of hope.

And Yule stands up and says, no, there is no idol, and I will prove it by showing you all any hope that she had.

It was the most Yule way ever to say it.

Yeah, when he was like, let me dispel this right.

Now, I have it, and Jeff goes, you want to show it to everyone, who was like, Bac, sure, sure, whatever.

But it was like but Candice was like, I think I know where it is.

And that's when Yu'll was like, okay, well not right enough of this.

Yeah, uh.

The future winner, You'll, I think.

Hey, man, if you believe it, you can achieve it.

And we'll talk about this because this is the first time where I think stuff starts to kind of switch against Yule's favor.

A little bit.

Yule proceeds to explain to everyone, including Jeff, how good at the game he is.

He explains how he used the idol to get pinned a flip.

He explained how he didn't tell anyone until the opportune moment, and how he still has it.

He essentially just told everyone left in the game that's about to be in the jury, I am winning this game.

I'm amazing at this game.

And that's when we like, across the two episodes, why in the new era you don't get to say stuff like that and still grow.

And what will happen in these two episodes, as we'll talk about, is people start going, oh, Yule's the kingpin, Oh Yule's in charge, and it's becoming very apparent that Yule is the person to be and I think Ozzy might be gunning for his head.

Well, we don't get a ton of that in these two episodes of Ozzy, Like I think Ozzy kind of lays low in these two episodes.

But what you do get is you do get Yule talking to like Becky about jury management, like thinking that basically he already has it in the back, like I gotta now start thinking about the jury and whether or not it makes more sense to get rid of Jonathan now or whatever, like like it's always a bold move when you start talking about the jury at this point in time, because not in a way like hey, like we're.

All playing the jury, right.

He's literally the only one talking about the.

Jury because he tells Ben in that scene, he's like, I don't think it's a good idea for my game because the U because he'll be on the jury.

And her the look in her eyes was like, oh no, Yule is a is a problem.

But I don't know if she's gonna be able to stop that.

Next up is an unlimited ice cream maker goes to Ozzy, who bids of four hundred and twenty dollars.

The way he says it is hilario.

He goes for twenty and Jeff goes, that's the magic number.

What the heck?

Now we know what Jeff's been getting up to the stone out with Ozzy.

He's getting stoned at the sanctuary.

Girl, Jim's happen.

Bro, The sanctuary is just Ozzie's house.

Yeah?

Is Ozzy the friend my friend?

Yeah?

Yeah?

His friend Jeff.

Isn't a drug mule.

Jeff's just like, Hey, something wrong with your dog?

Man, I'm coming over.

Man takes a puff and he's like, man, this is where good things happen.

Hey man, I'm gonna put this in the show.

It makes so much sense.

The story of him doing his black shirt ritual.

Knowing that he's stoned out of his mind.

He's just on LSD with Augie.

Sundra finally wins here somebody found cocaine?

Did somebody find cocaine?

Yeah, that was just Jeff's stash that fell off the boat as he was headed to check a metavac.

Hey.

Sundra finally wins something in the auction.

What's she gonna get?

C cucumber?

Ah?

Next up is our last item, and it's a toothbrush, which Pinner wins, and Yule out loud goes, if that's the last item, I'm gonna lose my mind, and then sure enough the auction is over.

Yule is so upset that as they get back from the auction, he starts going to everyone and it's like, we gotta get Jonathan out of here.

That's how mad he was that Jonathan.

Well, and then Jonathan per usual just refuses to read a room and is like, man, I ate so much now, I'm more thirsty, like never in a normal life when I eat as much food.

That was crazy, right, y'all?

That was nuts, like, and everybody's just so mad at him and I can't tell if he is doing it on purpose or if he's just that obtuse to what everybody else is feeling in that moment.

I don't know, but no one likes his behavior, which is kind of the theme of the whole season.

Yeah yeah, Parvity says that she I mean.

In addition to previously saying that she would barf in his face, this time she says if Pinner makes the final four, she will shoot herself.

Man.

Yeah, the like it gets to the point where everyone on the island seems to be pretty done with Pinner, and this is that moment that we were talking about where Yule is like, should I just send him home?

Now?

I think Adam even at this moment, kind of goes, hey, dude, get rid of him, keep me Candace in par of and then you can take us out later.

But it'll be best for everyone if he's gone.

And forgive me for not having my notes in front of me.

Is this the episode where he talks with them about how he doesn't really like him and he's just he can contest, disregard, disregard.

No, I think it is.

Are you talking about how Yule like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because oh yeah, you're right.

So this in this moment when he's talking with Ben, is it white Ben, Adam Adam.

Ben, Yeah, whatever, you know.

Biby goes by Adam.

This is the moment where he's talking to Adam and he and Adam is, you know, shooting a shot, trying to get him to think about what to do with Jonathan, and he's like like, I don't like Jonathan, but I know, like Jonathan is such a predictable player, Like I know what he's gonna do.

I it's nothing that he does is gonna catch me by surprise.

Thinking obviously that this is a conversation between people that it's not gonna get out right well wrong, because Oscar comes back with some fish, right, and he wants to eat that fish, and he doesn't think that.

The other folks, Adam, ParvE, Candace, they don't deserve the fish, and so they don't tell him when it's ready.

They just start eating it.

And that is when Candace comes over and she just decides, you know what, I'm going to expose Yule, and I'm gonna be like Jonathan, no pinner, No one likes you, Yule doesn't like you.

And so all of this is coming out here, and of course.

It's gonna come back during the during the tribal tribal But very much like and Ozzy is in all of this, we don't really hear from Ozzy, like what are his thoughts on all of this?

What does he want to do with Pinner?

Really, he just wants to not tell them about food anymore.

That's that's what he's I mean, this is after Candice returns from exile and after the challenge is over, so she is extra upset and willing to go confront them about all of it because she just went to exile for the fourth time.

Yeah, and to be fair, it was wild of them to have dinner without those three.

Yeah, but that that was when they wanted to have their little giggly like kiss in the tent.

And what I wrote my notes about this was the white people are on the bottom and they are not enjoying it.

I mean, if, on one hand, I don't, like I understand at this point in the game, if you feel like you shouldn't give them food for whatever reason, then I don't I feel like you need to at least give them the heads up, right, Like, Hey, strategically we're just not gonna do it anymore, instead of like them looking from a farm being like, hey, wait, they're eating.

Because there's been a precedent.

There's been a precedent set, which is we all eat together at dinner, you know, being like giving them a heads up, like you said, just been like, hey, guys, from now on, the fish I catch is for me and the people of my alliance.

So if you want some food, you're gonna have to kind of figure that out.

Wouldn't go over well, yeah, but at least a little bit more respectful.

It goes over about as.

Well as like if I one day decided I'm just making dinner for myself and my seven year old comes down and goes like, hey, where's dinner, And I'm like, you're on your own, kid, I made seven.

Yeah, your seven year own.

You shouldn't have been with that girl.

That's right.

You shouldn't have been.

You shouldn't have been hanging out in the shade with two women all over you.

Yeah, come on, that's exactly right.

That wouldn't go over well.

No, no, because I mean your seven year old man, that's his favorite pastime.

Yep.

All right, And now we go to tribal we didn't do the challenge.

I know that a little bit, but yeah, give us a bridge challenge.

Challenge time, it's everybody's favorite time.

Very quickly, Uh, there's a quiz and you got to answer the quiz and match it up some numbers and do an equation.

Basically, what happens is Adam wins the challenge and Immunity hated it.

Yeah.

I hate terrible challenge.

I hate I hate math challenges.

Yeah.

Yeah, I would have hated it if I played it, and I hated watching it.

Actually, give us the full rundown.

Yeah, give us all those equations, give us education.

I've got it written down because I take my job very seriously.

But I would have cured you for it.

But Brand, you know he wanted to skip over it.

Well, Brand hates me.

He hates me, and he knew that I took the time to write down every single math equestion.

He Sawser's sister, all right.

But yeah, so after the challenge, Adam wins the challenge and so that pretty much like it's good news for Adam.

But what it means is it kind of submits to everyone.

Candace is the one going home, and so Candace thinks she's going home, but maybe Pinner.

Maybe Pinner's gonna go home.

Then we get into everything that we already talked about, where she goes and confronts Jonathan in front of everyone.

He throws she throws Mule under the bus, and then they go to tribal where they proceed to call Pinner a rat and a cancer.

Uh the and then and then Parv Yu'll even catches some heat because Parv calls you'le the puppet master.

She says that in front of the jury and everyone.

Yeah, I mean earlier in the in this they called him the ring leader, I think to his face, and he didn't appreciate that very much.

He didn't want that label.

But that's what he is.

Yeah, and he explained to everybody that that's exactly what he is.

Yeah, yeah, in front of Jeff and all of them.

Yeah.

So I'm not a ring leader.

I just tell everybody how to vote, and you know, I just run the guy.

I kind of like run the game.

But I'm not a ring leader.

I'm this smart dog.

We make the decisions together.

I just kind of influenced all of them.

Yeah, I mean, so a tribal that the whites are still mad about Fishgate.

They're really upset about it.

Adam says he doesn't care for Jonathan.

Poverty says she's half his age and twice as mature.

And then when she said that, Nate's like nodding his head, like, yeah, get him.

MAT's awesome.

Why did he not come back?

I don't know, but yeah.

Then they called Jonathan a rat cancer.

My favorite line out of this tribal, because this was an intense tribal.

They're trying to convince everyone to just send Jonathan home because it doesn't affect their numbers at all, and Parv goes, hey, get rid of Jonathan, and then boom boom boom sitting ducks and the way she said it was hilarious.

Boom boom boom.

I also liked how Jeff called Mule the un when he described the dynamic and then Yule's like, I don't see it that way, and he's like, of course you don't see it that way.

I expect you to be the un try to bring everyone together.

Yeah, that was great, even Jeff calling out Yule for running the game right now yep.

But then Candace went after Yule real hard, sealed her fate and she's the next one voted out, and then she made out with Adam.

Right after Dude, uncomfortable hard uncomfort and Catherine up in there without the horrible dynamics at four a m.

We don't know live streams.

That's true.

He could have been saying, I love you, marry each other.

Yeah, they could have.

But dude, what I thought was wild is Candace.

Candace, she has a husband.

You know what I'm saying.

The she's gonna get married.

Yeah, and it's like, here she is in the past kissing some guy, making out with him, so they make out.

Jeff goes a kiss.

You know, maybe if it was love, he would have given you the immunity necklace.

And all I could think was, you know who would have given her that immunity idol and would have loved her?

Billy Garcia.

Billy Garcia would have loved her enough to give her the immunity necklace even though he won it, because he's the challenge beast.

Was love at first sight with Billy.

That's right.

She should have stuck.

She chose the wrong one.

It's like those memes where it's like, why do they always pick the jocks when they could have had the one that treats her like a queen.

That's Billy Garcia.

Yeah, dude, Now he chases algorithms.

Never yeah, never told a lie Dana's life.

My My only thought with when Jeff said that was like, that sounds like a real good singer.

But Adam doesn't have the immunity.

I got a way he does from the immunity challenge.

Dude, First you skip for the immunity challenge, then you guys rushed me through it, and now you don't even remember it.

Frand Brand's wearing sunglasses because of his dilated pupils.

Listen, two things by the challenge.

I said what it was and who won it?

No one loves four twenty more than Jeff Probes and your boy were.

Almost say four Chan's almost say fortune.

Hey man, we're learning a lot about Brand.

We're learning that as seven year old's favorite pastime is hanging out in the shade with women and brands on four chan and acid.

Yeah yeah, we wore.

Weeks of off season Brand until long season starts.

He gets rid of the acid and gets on the adderall it's time to focus.

Yeah that's right.

We can just transition right into episode thirteen, guys.

Yeah, let's do it.

Parvervey chops her finger almost clean off.

Awesome stuff, dude, she's awesome Soundra said, you could actually see where it separated, and man, that made me cringe.

I get one because I know what that feels like to an extent, like, I've cut myself a lot over the course of my life and everything too, not intentionally chase everything all right, buddy, over your whole life, And yeah, there's been a lot of cuts, a lot of bleeding at various points.

That's what happens when you go out in the woods.

Hey, guys, it cuts for PD on Twitter.

Look.

Also, I work with knives every day.

I cut myself.

Hey, guys, that was an insensitive joke.

Also, don't clip me saying I cut myself because that wouldn't be good for me.

But pieces, I mean I reaped no, hey, brother, I went through a window, severed all the tendons in my hands.

So me and Chase we both bled a lot.

We can relate to poverty.

When I went to the hospital to get my hand taken care of, uh, they were like, did you do it on purpose?

And I was like, yeah, I went through a window on purpose.

You actually you did.

You agreed to the spot.

You were arrested, But I didn't.

You did it on purpose.

I didn't mean to get hurt though.

Yeah, well you should have been like, yes, nurse, I did it on purpose to an extent they would.

Have locked me up.

You should have been like, this feels like a trick question.

I said, yes, the business, brother, it's it's I can't let them know what's work.

He asked Rick Flair every time he comes in with bleeding, if you did it on purpose?

No, Ricky Steamboat did it.

Yeah, but you ever sliced open at tendon like me and Chase.

No, you're not listening out to the fullest.

I cut my I cut my forehead open when I was a kid, Like you're doing a Rick Flair match.

Ye, dude, No, I was spinning around on the ice and then the ice broke and then the ice went in my head.

Oh man, whoa Yeah?

Were you ice skating?

Nah, let's just out like on a pond, you know, on the front yard.

It feels dangerous.

Yeah, you took a pile driver on the ice.

I mean, I guess that was on purpose too.

If you were doing a match up there, I did you.

Guys, haven't wrestled until you've done an extreme match on the ice.

That's a good point.

I've never done that.

I want to look that up.

I wonder if that's ever happened.

That's actually a pretty good idea.

That was a lie.

I did do a match in the snow okayamon table.

It wasn't on the ice, but I did go through a flaming table because I thought it would be safer because it was snow.

Wrestler logic.

Man, all right, Uh, now it's time for loved ones with chess.

I mean it's pretty much just poverty slices her finger.

Then they do the reward challenge.

Yeah, this is called family loving with Chase.

Cut that.

Talking to myself now, guys, Uh, this challenge get water from ocean put in bucket means No, we didn't say John, No, we didn't say doing a bridge version this time, brand didn't skip anything.

The family visit go ahead.

I was just gonna say, I just once I want a hated players family to come out and no one cheer.

Like, can you imagine if Pinner's Pinner's.

Wife came out, we hate you association?

Your husband sucks?

Oh?

Man, do you betray everyone in your personal life too.

I did put because I put in.

I wrote a lot of notes about the family members.

Adam's dad looks like if you just took Adam and dyed his hair white.

It's insane how much they look like.

Uh.

Becky's sister cries when seeing her, which is very sweet.

But I'm not so sure anyone would miss me that much, you know, especially my sister.

I mean, I'm going for fifteen days and my sister's like, yeah, I have sisters that live in different states.

Sometimes a year will go by.

I don't cry.

Yeah.

In fact, Pete relishes that he hates his family.

It's not true.

I love a couple of them.

I mean, by a couple, I me and my sisters.

Daughter's heavy metal.

I do love that guy too.

He wrote a great metal EP.

I still listen to it sometimes.

He pet loves people around his system.

Yes, I like the two people my sister created more than I like her.

Oh man, that's great.

Yeah, they're partnering up with their loved ones.

I think this is something that we've seen a handful of times with the loved one visits, where the competition is the player with their loved one.

This is one where the loved one is holding a bucket of water or like just an empty bucket.

The player has to run to the ocean blindfolded, scoop up some ocean water, run back, throw it at them, and they have to try to catch it in their bucket to fill up their bigger bucket.

They do the same challenge with the loved ones for Heroes Versus Villains, which I just watched.

Yeah, and guys, I have to be honest with you, I have not laughed.

Harder than Colby yelling at his brother every time he didn't get a bucket.

Full of water.

It was the funniest thing, Like, it was so funny that I didn't there was no way.

He was serious.

Were they blindfolded it?

Not one too?

Nope, they sure weren't.

So Colby would go over get the bucket of water.

He would throw it and I don't know, his brother, I felt like, was doing fine, but you know, all the water not all the water would get in the in the bucket, and Kolby would just be like, come it cut the water every time?

Every time it was huller.

But yeah, we get a really funny camera shot where they put the blindfold on the camera.

That was fun, and then the challenge is going on, and guys, I think Jonathan's wife would have been a way better survivor player than Jonathan.

I mean, his wife was doing the most.

She was like emptying her hair and her drenched clothes into the bucket to get more like she was playing hard.

Dude, she tried.

But yeah, at the end of it, Parv and her dad wins, which means that Parv gets to pick who goes to exile.

She immediately picks Jonathan, which I think that's what he gets.

But he gets very emotional.

He makes out with his wife a little bit.

Do you guys can ask permission?

Yeah?

He just he walked straight over to her.

Didn't say, hey, Jeff, can I go?

Can I see my wife before I go to exile?

I think he was just around Adam and like Candice too much, because the way that he like made out with his wife was uncomfortable, Like, when you're over forty in public, don't do that.

He's too excited to see his wife.

Making out in public.

You're stopping to watch.

Yeah, yeah, I'm twenty.

Something, okay, Jeff, okay, and I know I know what's good TV.

Now Here's here's where I draw the line, though, if one of those twenty somethings gets married in a few years and their husband's on Survivor with them, that's uncalled for.

But yeah, no, I don't know, it's just uncomfortable.

You're on a blog post breaking down the dynamics of what you think is acceptable for the family reward.

And I'll send it to uh, I'll put it on four chan.

Gosh, yes, Brandon one day.

All right, hold on, here's a quick here's one one clip.

Tell me what you want.

Just come on.

Little brother getting frustrated.

With and I kid you not.

It was every time he was gonna be back for fifty right, yeah it was.

And I gotta like maybe read he was so bad.

Yeah, heroes versus Do you remember when we talked about this in the mock draft, Yeah, where I was just like, dude, I can't believe they brought him back.

He sucked in heroes versus Villains, Like you know.

He told Jeff, Hey, I've been practicing survivor specific challenges for the past twenty years.

Right, I'm ready to go.

I don't.

We got some information from our insider teg with who's on that episode that Colby watches every week, So maybe maybe he's prepairing.

He's trying to turn it around.

Yeah, surely age hasn't weakened him further.

Chase is just so ageous in this episode.

Hey man, I.

Don't like old people.

When I hit thirty, I'll die.

What do you mean?

You guys are being so weird?

Okay, weird, being weird?

Yeah, you guys are being crazy this episode.

Would you watch Kobe make out with his wife?

Uh?

No, he's like fifty, dude.

E Is there a certain Is there a certain point where it comes back around for you though?

If Sue would have done it different school?

No, I think it has gotten blown out of proportion.

I'm not saying you can't kiss your wife on Survivor.

I'm saying don't stick your tongue down her throat on TV.

But the point you made is you can't do that because he's forty, because he's old.

And no one wants to see that, So you would have wanted to see a five year old Guys.

Did anyone complain when Adam and Candace did it when we were just talking about it?

Yeah, we all did.

Yeah, it's kind of I don't Chase.

I mean, Chase is living for those Adam and Candace segments.

That's the nice thing about when forty somethings plays Survivor like he's playing with his wife.

That you can't get in trouble for that, Yeah, you can't.

No, it should be what you want.

You only want people making out with their spouse their spouses.

No, not if they're over forty.

Chase is like man.

If Adam and Candace had that moment instead of them, would have been a three time.

Great time if it wasn't for the fact that Kandace has a husband in the future.

Guys, I don't see why this is so hard to grasp.

So because ParvE and her dad win, Uh, Parve's dad has to pick who goes with them on the chat the reward.

This with no help from Parv.

This reeks of a last minute pivot right like they know to me, right like a if Parv wins, make dad pick it, because like I I, that's what it felt like to me.

I think this is just more compelling no matter who wins tobout the game.

It is, but there's times where they don't do that felt very specific.

It's felt very specific to this season with how like defined the tribal lines are at this point in the game, this deep in the game, it did feel like to me, like so specific.

This is gonna be really juicy because of how seriously the lines are.

Here's what I'll say, brand if Candace was still in the game, I would agree with you because I'd be like, oh, they're like, parv is just gonna pick Candace in Adam.

But yeah, he picked Sundra's mom and then Adam's dad.

Uh.

They they get picked, they go off, and then we end up at the island where we see Ozzie and the rest of them that weren't chosen take it away.

Ozzy's mad that he fed poverty because he felt like he gave it the strength to win.

I don't really think that the fish strength really contributed to the throwing the water around all that much.

But Yule is just glad that all the whites have left the area and then now it's it's time.

For the reward.

I have left the area.

I do think Chrissy and speaking, Yeah, I mean I.

Love when they get to go on little adventures like this.

Yeah, I mean, we got them surrounded by women and children singing to them, and then they get to walk into this crazy looking cave.

New Era players are watching it with a clenched fist, being like, oh, we get to go to a little stupid sectuary.

Yeah, I mean they got to go to this awesome cave and do a prayer ceremony.

I mean the New Era players would never get that, let alone of Warriors welcome.

Yeah, dude, and plus New Era players.

They have to share an island with Love Island.

They're being filmed at the same place of the same diamond.

Oh dude, they should invade.

That would be awesome.

Just just no purpose to it, just an invasion, and don't even tell the Love Island, right, you.

Know who would fit in and Love Island Candace and Adam?

Uh huh yeah your favorite?

Uh okay, we can go back to it tatanga whatever what is it called itatangaloa New Japan Pro Wrestling's itotangaloa Ozzie Ozzie, he's still mad about feeding the whites.

You'll suggest hiding the food they want to starve Adam.

But here's the thing.

Adam comes back and out of the kindness of his heart, he feeds everybody from the reward and they're like, oh, man, like we wanted to hate you and starve you, but now you just don't have the heart to do it.

Dude, made them look like asshole yep.

I mean when you cut from them throwing coconuts into the jungle so that they can't have anything to eat, and then Adam and it didn't even come across like a strategy move.

It was like Adam was like, oh, do you guys get to eat today?

Well, we brought you some leftovers from the challenge, And it was just like a really wholesome moment.

But also how little do.

You have to think of the other people that throwing them five feet away is gonna be the thing that like deters them from eating.

Yeah, Like, hey, we just push it underneath here right Like they're not gonna look for it.

What happens?

What happens if they find it and they're like, hey, did someone throw all our coconuts?

Nothing beats what Sandra did after Rupert got voted out, Oh yeah, or what Tyson does with uh, who does he do that with?

I don't remember the.

FBI agent Philip.

I think they they poke holes in the coke fbi A drink all of the liquid and then put them back, and then all the other players are like, what's up with these coconuts?

None of them are in a strong Tyson's awesome.

I can't wait for brand to get to those seasons.

And now it's Immunity Challenge time with Chase.

Now give us this challenge in three words or less inclusive the winner Ooh, I think I can do it.

You could do the whole thing if you'd like, Yeah, it was a good one.

We should probably talk about it.

Okay, a floating obstacle, I said, floating obstacle course, But it's a floating obstacle course.

You grab a bundle of sticks and then you come back.

You do that twice, and then you have to use the sticks, combine them together to make a giant pole, and then use that pole to extend out and retrieve two rings.

The first one to get both rings wins.

They have done different versions of this challenge before or since, I can't remember when.

I think this might be one of the weaker versions of this challenge.

I like when they're stuck in a cage and they have to use the pole to try to get the key to unlock the caves of it.

Really Yeah, I.

Like those versions more.

But we do get to watch once again.

When water is involved, Pozzy dominates him and Yule though neck and Neck blow everyone else out of the water no pun intended, No one's even close to them, and then Ozzy gets his poles together quickly wins the challenge.

It's over before you know it.

It water and poles, it's Ozzy, It's Ozzie's territory.

It's where he feels comfortable being wet on a pole.

Yeah.

I couldn't feel like you needed that last line.

Oh he did, he did.

I needed to really sell it.

Oh man.

But then after the challenge, this is a big moment for me.

After the challenge, we get back to camp, Pinner notices the vibes are off.

He's like, no one's really talking to me, and what does he say?

What does he ask?

So he he just looks at Becky and he goes, how's your sister, and like it's so awkward.

She just goes.

She doesn't even speak, she just nods, she just goes, my sister is.

Everyone gets up and leaves.

He follows, the ladies follows him and goes.

Guys they ignore him.

Guys, they're just trying to walk away.

He ladies.

And then they turn around and they go, we're getting firewood.

And he just goes like, hey, what is everything still good?

And you know, Adam going home or whatever, and and uh, she goes, Becky goes, that's what we said, isn't it.

Dude?

You never want to hear that.

You never want to hear somebody just not answered the question.

Yeah.

So Jonathan extremely paranoid.

But then he made this pitch that I thought was great, where he's like, you know, they're charming young people, but let's not be stupid.

Don't fall for it.

Yeah, they're gonna do whatever they can to stay.

And I was like, you know what, that sounds pretty good to me.

I think I would listen.

Would we all have liked to watch them make out?

Yeah?

They're young, you bet, but don't don't believe what they're saying.

This is so stupid because Chase I brought up doing a Love Island podcast and Chase is like, oh, never.

But then we get to this and Chase is just like freaking out about how much he loves Adam and Gandas kissing so much.

And then he loves Vince and Morgan on Big Brother, even though Vince is being unfaithful to his girlfriend of seven years, Kelsey.

That's what makes it hot.

Yeah, brand what mm hmm.

He has a girlfriend of seven years and.

She's currently running his socials.

She's pissed.

Oh, Like like when people comment on his Instagram post like Kelsey's gonna leave you, she's liking those comments.

You don't betray the person you gave your passwords to.

No, especially when your password is your girlfriend's name.

Yeah, that's crazy.

We hacked into the account.

It's Kelsey three hundred.

That's the past.

Like, there's like no way that, Like they had an agreement ahead of time, like literally do anything you have to do.

That gets addressed by her to tell.

Them, dude, I'm trying that.

You brought that up so in the house, like Vince is like, oh, we had an agreement beforehand, dude.

She She sends a comment on Instagram and goes, no, we did not.

In fact, quite the opposite.

We We've made strict boundaries.

Yeah, and this guy, you know that picture I sent of the two people crying, that's the new couple.

Oh, I see, I'm not I don't know enough to know what I'm looking at there.

I thought that was Yeah, So that was them crying before an uncomfortably long hug, which is a theme now.

It's like these three minute hugs between those two.

Wait, why were they crying because they're both on Oh, it.

Had nothing to do with the sins that he's committed.

Again, there were sad that one of them is going to go home, and so they're like, oh, no, we don't get to be together.

I will.

Uh, this isn't the Big Brother podcast.

If you guys want to hear our thoughts on that, make sure you're listening Big Broke Club.

But I will say this word on the street is she might use a certain power to get him off the block instead of herself.

He won't be on jury, so she'll be able to interact with this.

Oh have you guys figured out how someone wins?

Yeah?

I still don't know how someone wins.

Okay, I haven't gotten there yet.

I think you know there is a jury.

Yes, there is a Jersey Jew.

I'm sure Julie Chin will explain us.

Explained to Julie Chin Moonfest.

Sorry I left it, got it, Thank you you almost forgot them.

It's important part of that name.

I know I was slipping anyway to leave that guy.

Sorry, I need to be on more of than a brother podcast because I'd love listening to you guys talk about it.

But I don't you should hate brand.

I watched the live feeds from like twelve am to three am.

If you want to come over one night, we could just post up and watch the live feeds all night.

Yeah, because you've got more free time now that your seven year old makes his own dinner.

One hund Yeah, because he notoriously eats dinner between the hours of the big night what PD does.

Only if I did a workout and I need to have a meal.

That way, you know, they'll work out with your stationary bike.

Yeah, I'm not going to get into what I'm doing on that workout.

Well, now it's time to go to tribal.

Yeah.

We set up tribal and then we went on a Vince tangent.

But yeah, yeah, so this tribal crazy is the last one?

Dad commet read commet read.

I need to get that.

I need to pull that clip for the future.

Oh man, Yeah, dude, this tribal is wild.

They're just bullying Pinner at this point, Ozzy even throws Pinner under the bus.

Someone goes, someone goes, uh, Ozzie, do you think that it's better when Pinner's not around?

And he goes, sure, I don't really like him.

I would be gunning for Adam because he wasn't safe this time around.

Listen, this is they They played this correctly, like this is the point in time where you feel good because you've got you've got that buffer that you need to feel really good about yourself.

Get rid of the most annoying person.

They played it perfectly, and.

You got the whole jury cheering for you.

Yeah, I'm thinking of it, like, keep around the guy everybody despises a week longer.

And keep him to the final two brother or I don't know if this is a two or a three season, but keep them to the finals.

No one's gonna vote for him.

It's true, they were bullying him pretty hard.

He handles it well.

He handles it well.

And then I started to thinking about something that Billy Garcia said when we interviewed him at the beginning of this.

He said he said that, you know, the reason that the tribes didn't work is because even though they're all the same quote unquote race.

They're really not right because, like you've got a bunch of different ethnicities in the Asian American tribe and the Hispanic American tribe.

And he said the thing about Pinner being the only Jewish person on the white tribe, and I was like, when you look at this tribal under that lens, if he's the only Jewish person there, it gets uncomfortable.

Yeah, I mean, and last week when they're calling him a rat and a cancer, Yeah, yeah, it gets really I mean, what is he?

Asp?

Tame?

Man?

I hate when I open up a diet coke and Jonathan Penner hops out.

Dude, I am like fifty as tame.

But I'm not a rat, So there's no problem there.

Hey man, And you're you know, ass so tame?

Oh h my joke was better.

Hey, nothing tell you about that, ass I'll tell you what.

That's what I get, Biden.

Yeah, I was about to say, I'm looking at my bike right now, about to do another crazy workout tonight.

Let's get let's get your soul on here to talk about what you do on your bike.

Yeah, I send soul videos.

Hey, shut up, soul man.

He wished me a happy birthday.

Oh that's awesome.

Uh, Pinner goes home.

There you go.

Hey, good for you cha.

She congratulated by Saul.

Anyway, Tennor's out of here.

I mean, who was it?

Who is Jonathan who got a happy birthday message from Mary Brand?

When are we gonna get happy birthday messages from Survivors?

I will say this.

Mary has not wished me a happy birthday, but she did send me condolences for my dog past Oh that's.

Even better Mary's Is it better?

It means more?

Sure, Yeah, that's a better way to say that.

Yeah, I mean it just means more.

Like the sec I don't know if you say those commercials, it just means more.

The day your dog dies is better than your birthday.

It's better in the event that Mary from season forty eight of Survivor texts you about it.

Listen.

As much as I love Mary, I would still rather my dog be alive.

Me crazy.

Yeah, Jase is the real villain of this podcast.

He's like Brand.

You know, it's all worth it now that you got the shout out from Mary, I'm coming over.

Oh, I've got things that can help.

I got tennis.

Falls, I've got four to twenty oh man, guys.

As Pinner is going home, he turns around and goes, I'd like my hat back.

At some point, Hey, Jeff, how's your sister?

How's your sister?

Two great episodes?

Yeah, and this is the penultimate episode of Survivor time Machine.

Next week will be the last.

Here's what I want to say about Pinner.

When I first watched through all these seasons, I remember thinking he was awesome, like I really liked him.

Watching this season back, I'm like, oh, wow, he's obviously like the villain of this season.

Yeah.

I think it's maybe his other seasons that he plays is where he becomes really cool.

Unless he just.

Remember he's responsible for this season getting good.

That's true, listen.

I I think all things considered, he gets a pretty bad rap in this season.

Did he jump ship twice?

It takes a certain type of crazy person to do that, right, and he did it without being a complete like jerk to other people.

So I don't know, I still liked him, guys.

I have two fun facts with Chase for this episode.

With this episode, Jonathan Penner breaks the record for the most votes in a single season, was previously held by Rory and vanatu Van nuatu Rory.

I need to google Rory real Ory Freeman with fifteen votes.

Huh, you don't remember Rory.

I remember him, but I don't remember him being like hated enough to be the most voted forever.

Well, it's a big cast, too big cast that season, men versus women.

Oh yeah, this record would stand until season until Redemption Island.

Wow, when somebody would would take that record.

Another fun fact that is based around Pinner.

Pinner makes a statement about how four of the people who voted him out would be jurors in the I don't know if you guys watched when he did his ending statement or whatever.

In the credits, he said that four of the people who voted him out would be jurors.

Turns out that's not true because he was not anticipating a final three, so he actually got that wrong.

That's the two fun facts got him.

When did they introduce the final three for the first time?

I think it might be this season.

Guys, what a great episode, What.

A great episode.

Now we're gonna spend the next hour breaking down every hug between Vince and Morgan.

Let's start with the one in the workout room.

I'm just kidding.

Yeah, so we're gonna come back.

Yes, yeah, I appreciate CBS.

I love CBS.

That's what Riley said in his exit interview.

It was at gunpoint.

Then he said that, all right, survivors, Machine, we'll do this for one more week.

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