Hello, and welcome to the Gold, Ghost and Guns podcast for I Cober thirty at twenty twenty five.

My name is Tom Luongo.

We've got a lot to talk about, and this is gonna be This is gonna be a really fun one because this is one of those episodes, and this is episode two thirty five where I get to talk with an old friend in a new format.

I've never had my friend Halsey English on the show, and Halsey and I have been doing this on and off for eight years.

And to be honest with you, Halsey is one of those guys that a lot of you probably don't know because it's been a long time since then, that he was one of the guys early on that gave me, you know, a hand up, helping to publish my work and everything else.

And we've just been friends on and off ever since.

So, Halsey, how are you, man?

How you been?

I am doing fantastic.

I am doing really really good.

Good.

Life is good.

It's it's weather's good, the country's good.

I'm feeling very positive these days.

Good And I know you've had a rough time of it of late, and at the same time, so it's good to hear that, my friends.

So I got you on this morning for a couple of reasons, and because now that we're a couple of weeks past the Trump Gaza deal, I think it's important now we do an honest post mortem, right, And this is your eric expertise in my in my mind, and I can't really think of anybody who would be, you know, better for this one and at least explaining why this is both good and you know, why this is good for Israel and the long run, why you know all these things have occurred.

So give me your you know, just start wherever you want with this one and explain it.

Explain the why.

This is the beginnings of what you and I've always talked about is the grand bargain in the least, I think, so let me, you know, tell me if I'm wrong.

It is the beginning of it.

In that when you look at the flare up that came between Israel and Hamas slash Qatar slash Saudi Arabia slash everywhere over the last few years, right ever since the seventh of October in twenty twenty three, what you saw was a remaking of the world order in the Middle East.

But the difference being is that there was never a doubt that Israel was able to handle itself militarily if need be.

There was a doubt whether the regimes that are connected to the various parts of Europe and the Middle East whatever allow them to live in peace.

And what you saw was this Grand Axis of resistance, which was Iran, Syria, Hezbala and Hamas basically completely disintegrate and they've all been taken off the table.

For now.

Iran is still an issue, but they're not even close to the issue they used to be.

And how does it relate to the Grand Bargain in the Middle East.

It relates to that Trump has seen the end goal, which is the end goal is to get the European medaling out of the Middle East.

Because Europe, because they don't have any influence anymore when it comes to finance, they have no influence anymore when it comes to military.

So what they do is is they create chaos.

Now, they've always done this, but they've always been able to back it up with something.

Because Europe not being able to have any rock solid influence, they just take advantage of the chaos and try to offer some level of stability well in the meantime, still creating chaos.

Now, this isn't unique to Israel.

You saw this in Vietnam when the French basically started with the Vietnamese, called us into help and then left and started selling weapons to both sides.

Right, So same thing.

There's no difference in what's going on there now and what's been going on in history.

But the big difference is is that when push came to shove and Britain and France turned their backs on Israel in the US, the powers that be in Israel and the US turn their backs on Britain and France as well, and that they stopped giving them influence.

Britain and France decided to take up the reins and start demanding a Palestinian state.

In recognition of a Palestini state, net Yahuu cut off by all reports, intelligence and diplomatic support for Britain.

So what you're seeing is not really a reordering of the Middle East away from the Arab powers.

You're seeing the reordering of the Middle East away from Europe, and Europe is being accepted for what it is, which is just a vassal state of Qatar and Iran and Syria.

And the different power mostly Turkey is well.

So the Brits, the Brits and the French now are are flailing as they have been for years, and they're going to be left to deal with their own problems, like no one's coming to bail them out.

And that's the part no one's talking about.

But it's the most important part of what's going on in the Middle East.

I would say that you and I've talked about it.

I've talked about it a lot.

I've talked about it with my friend like Alex Craner, and I'm going to have Richard Poe on the podcast for next week as well, because I want to go over also to the historical the historical stuff.

I just haven't talked to Richard in a long time, and I actually apologized to him when I invited him on the show.

I'm like, dude, I'm sorry.

I just kept slipping my mind.

But you know, I think we have been trying to make these points for a very long time, and I think correct that it's funny I say all this right and earlier in the year you were and I talking behind the scenes, and when I was going off, I'm thinking that Trump and net Yahoo were not in cahoots, not in you know that there was something going on there, and you kept saying to me, dude, they're absolutely working together, Like what's wrong with you?

How did you get this so wrong?

And I'm like, you're better than this, And I'm like, well what I saw was actually And I still maintain that there's this tension in that relationship, that there are continued attempts by that Yahoo to wriggle out from underneath whatever it is that that that Trump is demanding of him.

I think everybody is trying to do.

I think that's what's going on with Urtigan in Turkey as well.

You can see it with him, you can see it with Mody in India.

They're all still like trying to be a man with a foot on two different islands, trying to decide who's going to win, because they're being you know, whispered to in both ears from both sides that no, no, you have to aly with the US, No you have to alle with Europe.

No, you have to lie with the US, and then they're being schmood from both sides.

I still think that that tensions on the on the table, which is part of the reason why I keep saying it's the beginning of the Grand Bargain in the released.

But that being said, I agree with you that in general that this is necessary.

It was a necessary step to deurify the region.

And but the difference being is this is that it's everybody thinks they have Trump's number right, and that Trump talks a good game and when push comes to shove, he folds.

The thing is is that that isn't Trump's game.

That's never been Trump's game.

Trump talks a big game, but what he's saying is not necessarily what he wants.

It's what he wants his enemies to perceive he wants.

So they think the way to counter him is to talk really well and then just not give him what he wants.

But so far, it seems that they've given him exactly what he wants on all angles.

And it's when when you see Erdawan doing this.

Erwan is a classic example, right, he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

He wants he wants Qatar and Jamas too.

He's still on board.

He wants Europe to know that they're still on a short leash, and he wants the US to know that there's still an ally that can be counted on.

I don't think Trump takes the history of the region into account at all.

He's more of a what have you done for me lately kind of person.

Sure, And.

With Katar, he sees that Qatar is allied with probably the worst aspects of our deep state.

Right.

That's where sent com is like, there's so many people that talk about it.

Qatar is a nation of three hundred thousand people.

It's not really a country.

It's just an oil field that we put this royal family in charge of.

And while that oil field loves to spread its influence with its money, it has more of a hold on Europe than it has on anywhere else because Europe has also had a hold on them.

The Six Cia, these have been the organizations that have primarily ruled what the Qataris do, and Erwan has held ship because Ertuwan contains the gates to Europe.

When when the Middle East sends its trash to Europe, it comes through Turkey, and Turkey is the one decides which general, which which kind of port is it going to lead from.

Is it going to go to Greece, is it going to go to Italy?

And and where where are these people going to wind up?

Are they going to get in rafts and float over to Britain.

So everyone thinks that they've got Trump's number, and that if they just you know, give him given given, but then don't come through, that he's going to fold and and just take what he can get.

And Trump hasn't done that at all.

And in fact, they've they've played into his hands quite a bit.

And so so give me, So give a couple of really concrete examples here, because this is one of these things where you can say that stuff and then the obvious counter.

Yeah, but then he you know, opened he held open, you know, nett Yang's chair for him, and blah blah blah blah, and everybody in Congress is owned by APAC and all the rest of this nonsense.

No like specifically like what has like do do that work?

Because this is really important?

Okay, So you up a couple points that are actually kind of kind of interesting.

Number one, he holds it.

He holds the chair out for everybody.

That's that's something like.

That's that's been completely debunked in terms of like, oh, look even holds out in net Yahu's chair form.

He does that for everybody.

It's it's called being polite, and people forget for people forget what being polite means.

Right, he's done it.

If he did it for Ertawan, he did it for the Kataris, he did it for the for the bread, He's done it for everybody.

But the most important part that when you look at it as to what Trump is doing, is the energy that's needed to go to Europe because Europe can't heat it it's itself.

Europe can't provide energy for itself.

It's it's bitten off this climate change disaster full force and decided that that was going to be what they used to control their own population.

And it didn't work, and now they can't get energy from anywhere without paying a premium for it.

So with the chaos in the Middle East, there was kind of this hope that they would be able to form a piece deal with Iran and Israel, that they be able to keep katar On on their side, they'd be able to do all of these things and therefore purchase cheap energy from the Middle East.

That hasn't happened at all.

So the Qataris and and the Iranians, they're They're still selling every every drop they can to China and India because they have a much better appetite and are willing to pay more than the Europeans ever ever would right, they're not looking for any influence in the area, They're just looking for energy.

So Trump has basically made it so that Europe gets the majority of its energy from US, and sometimes we use this weird convoluted back channel where it gets purchased from Russia, then it gets sold through through different sources, and then it gets eventually brought right back to Europe.

But Europe has not been able to solidify any kind of of gains from what they've done in the Middle East.

In fact, it's it's hurt.

It's hurt them even further.

So what I'll what I'll say, well, they've just to add some color to that.

As far as the energy flows are concerned, it's very obvious is that what was actually going on there was a thing from there was an announcement from the Indians a couple of years ago.

Look, the allarization is happening.

We're going to settle all of our our oil export trades in u a de Ram remember that, And that's how they were so, and and then I was talking.

I was I was having a Twitter, you know, argument or discussion with a guy about my contention that the euro is is being is being sidelined international trade.

He said, no, They've just moved a lot of their their their trade settlement off of Swiss so it doesn't show up in the Swift data.

But they have their own payment rails, and they're actually getting around the sanctions, the US sanctions on Rusian oil by using those payment channels to pay in euro convert into U A de m and and and and by still by the same oil from the Indians, meaning that what has always been the the liquidity token of the old four X network, which is the British Pound, was being moved to the United errab memorates Trump allowing that Yahoo to go in to blow up the freh Os leadership in Qatar.

In my mind was him saying, oh, by the way, you fuckers don't get to change to move your boathole bolthole from London which you're liquidating to the Middle East to Abu Dhabi, Dubai Dollah, all that fuck off with that, go back to Europe with that, and that's that's a very important It's not just the physical energy, it's the trade settlement of the energy and the and the fore x market as well.

So well, that's because what you're talking about bucks conventional wisdom, but is actually one of the few things.

And don't get me wrong, I don't believe they did this on purpose.

I think they did this by mistake.

That it's one of the few things that happened under Biden that actually wound up being a huge positive in the world and enabled the US to move in ways that it hasn't been able to in the past.

Everyone always said that coming off the dollar standard for oil would be a disaster for the US, but it hasn't been a disaster for the US because all that did was what we used as an off ramp for our inflation by putting it into the dollar that was used for transactions, was that it took that inflation, it moved it around the world.

But if people weren't going to hold those dollars, they would just repatriate them back into the US.

So what you were wound up doing was giving China and Russia and everyone the opportunity to buy US farmland and buy real assets within the United States that technically we didn't want them to have, and it just gave the United States back their currency, which was inflating at a rate that was really high.

So Biden, whenever I say Biden, understand I'm not talking about Joe Biden himself.

He obviously wouldn't he the Biden put before like the Biden sis, that's a good way to put it.

The people that are behind Biden.

What they did was they gave us a new off ramp for our inflation because by being able to settle in all these different currencies, we were able to offer bonds that were purchased with foreign currencies as opposed to have to being purchased in dollars.

So now they were doing bond offerings all over the Middle East and all over the world that people were taking advantage of, and the foreign currency was being repatriated to hear which wasn't necessarily peg to the same inflationary rates that we were.

So and it made the Euro.

It made the Europeans take their genuinely very unstable Euro and have to use transactions in the Euro.

And now the Europeans are trying to put the Euro all over the world, and nobody wants it right, because they recognize its inherent instability, right, Like, if you don't have a growing economy to counter your currency, which Europe doesn't have, then what you have is baked in inflation that you're not giving anybody the incentive to take on.

Like people will buy inflated dollar because they understand that a the American economy is still growing and b that they could still use those dollars even if they're worth less than the day they bought them, whereas with the euro there's no guarantee that you're ever going to be able to use them, because there might not be any assets in Europe worth buying that anybody cares about, right or.

They actually or that you can actually buy.

Because the Europeans are moving to put capital controls on everything.

They're trying to keep the they're trying to keep from happening, and then they won't, and then they don't want the money coming back in, and they don't want the money flowing back out.

They're putting up capital controls in both directions, and then on all they're trying to export is their terrible regulatory environment to bring everybody down to their level of misery and it's not working because everybody's just looking at them, going, well, that's nice, fuck off.

The big thing that this is, here's the the this is I think everybody missed this point about when they were talking about how they were going to get their carbon tax through shipping done.

And Trump walked in to the UN and with one tweet, and you know, and and and Marco and one speech by Marco Rubio killed this tax and killed this thing.

And apparently the Dutch were like, we were just gonna that.

The Americans have never been able to tell us what's gonna happen in shipping.

We've always controlled shipping, always always owen.

So if we decide that there's gonna be a tax on there's gonna be a carbon tax, on on on on on shipped goods into an out of Europe or around the world, we're just gonna make that happen.

And it's it's gonna happen.

Fat a complete and Trump and Rubio blew it up in forty eight hours.

It's like one's it's one of those like this is like since sincere, like this is one of the greatest examples of American power we've ever seen.

Well, you see you see more more evidence of what you're talking about.

That just happened yesterday.

Okay, Bill Gates was close summoned to a to a meeting with the White House.

He went to the White House and immediately came out and announced that climate change wasn't as big a deal as he thought.

Okay, that's huge because Bill Gates is like the private citizen that is connected to Europe and the climate change agenda, like he's used billions to push it.

He understands the true nature of it.

He understands that even if he were to believe that climate change is real, that the alarmism and the financial controls that are being instituted by climate change, that while they might have been beneficial to him and to others in the past, are no longer beneficial.

In fact, that there are hindrance.

Right, Like, if you're going to invest in companies that make electric cars, you're going to make money, but you're not going to make money like you used to in the past, because the cafe standards are changing.

Because because car manufacturers are moving back towards gasoline cars and just better, more efficient gasoline cars, hybrid cars are starting to make more of a comeback, which are truly the clean way to actually do energy if you care about that kind of thing.

And he so they also realize and and you're seeing this, I'm reading between the lines, and I think a lot of other people too are too.

When Trump announced that he was going to start testing and upgrading our nuclear weapons again, what he was basically saying is he's going to authorize more nuclear plans to be built.

And and that's a huge, huge hit to the to the climate change agenda because remember, they're justice against nuclear power as they are against you know, coal powered or gasoline powered power.

So they're against energy.

They actually remember this is a depopulation agenda.

So but they're really against his people like you're the carbon they like, you never would never forget that.

So no, you're absolutely right.

The whole Bill Gates thing was great.

I always looked at it yesterday and I was like, oh, you know, I tweeted about it yesterday and I was like, yeah, you know, yeah, Like and the interesting it's interesting, I the Gates thing is massive, Like why did he Like for for weeks people were screaming like most of the typical you know, Trump is owned by the Jews, crowd screaming like why did he have Bill Gates at Mari Lago?

Why did he do this?

Why did he do that?

I'm like, because you summon them to you and you let them know what the score is, and then you threaten their money and you tell them like this is like like everything is being set up and you can see it, like the infrastructure is being set up to surround these people legally to attack, to take them all down, and one fell swoop with reco charges domestically because they've worked with foreign foreign terrorist organizations and domestic terrorist organizations.

It's all being laid out brick by brick, block by block, and that's why they're all like that's why they're all showing up in London this week, Like why Obama?

Why this one?

Why that one?

They're all showing up.

They're all trying to figure out what they do, like.

They're all trying to figure out what to do because and this this has been been true for a long time as well, is that when you want to criticize someone right, you do it publicly, because publicly then you can see where the country is and where the population is on what you're saying.

It doesn't necessarily mean what you're saying is true or it's it's what they call trial blue, right, like, let's let's see what people really think about that.

But when you want to talk to someone without a microphone and let them understand by looking into your eyes what you're really saying, you bring them in person, right you you close the door and you say, this is what's really going on.

Now?

Could that leak?

Sure, but that leak is never positive or not.

You don't know whether the whether the people are even going to believe that the leak is true.

And this goes back to what we were originally talking about.

Obama.

I meant Yahoo and Trump they argue publicly all the time, right, but but for some reason they always seem to get to the same point.

But when they want to talk, they do so in person, right, Like like BB will be summoned to the White House for no reason whatsoever, and immediately what everyone says is, oh, he's about to dress an et Yahoo down.

Why wouldn't Yahoo be flying there?

And it's true, like why would he be flying there?

They can just pick up the phone, right because when you have a recording of what's being talked about, if that leaks, then you can't say, oh, that was never said, or that's being taken out of context.

No one believes that kind of shit.

But when you put someone in a room and say this is what's going on, then a plan is solidified, and then everything after it is just the fluff that sells it to the public.

So Trump was one of the first people ever to recognize that in the Israeli Palestinian conflict, that the ideal solution would be if the population of Gaza was sent elsewhere.

Right now, This is something that they talked about for years in Israeli circles, just never publicly.

In fact, it was considered like like you know how they arrest people from mean tweets in England, Like if that was something if you said that publicly enough in Israel, they would arrest you for it.

That was considered it to suggest that the Palestinians to be transferred anywhere.

There was an American rabbi named Americana.

He ran for the government over there.

He made it in one year and the next year they banned him.

He was never able to run again because that was what he suggested.

He suggested that the population of Rage should be transferred, right, So Trump saying this was a huge deal because now it was out in the public.

Now, does he really want to transfer the population.

I would think so for one reason only, in order for the population to stay in Gaza.

Yeah, And I know this is like it seems a bit disingenuous because I'll start out by saying, I don't care what happens to them, so like, don't think this is coming from like my heartfelt desire to see good things happen to them.

But if you do care about what's going on with the Palestinians, do you want almost two million people living in tents for the next ten to fifteen years while they get all the rubble and unexploded ordinance and everything that's left in Gaza, Like there's nowhere for them to stay.

There are no buildings left.

They're like there's some, but not enough for the whole population.

There's no infrastructure left.

The tunnels that they bombed underneath everything have left everything in shambles.

So now it's a question of the minute they tell the Palestinians that they have a path to leave, they don't have to like round them up, put them on a boat and say, hey, you're going to Sudan.

Now they're just going to tell them, if you want to go somewhere else, just tell us where you want to go, and we'll pay for it.

We'll give you a little check to take care of yourself.

And a good portion of them are going to take advantage of that.

Now, does that leave the Gosins in Gaza?

Sure it leaves plenty of them there.

But they're not going to think twice about invading Israel again when they know that the other option is they can go somewhere else if they don't like what's going on there.

I know everyone likes to tie it to Oh they're so you know, they're so in love with the land and they're going to take the land back.

They've never been truly about that.

They've been about defeating Israel, and a lesson has been learned from everyone right now that that's not going to happen.

And it doesn't matter whether it's going to happen.

What Trump has is a pr problem in that he saw that Qatar and Europe were gaining the upper hand and that they were reaching out to everybody and causing all these student protests that were going on in colleges and this whole thing.

Like you said, with APAC and all of that, they were winning a pr war that the other side wasn't going to fight because it's pointless.

Okay, you can't fight a pr war when the other side is willing to just make up the fact, you're just going to get constantly chasing your tail.

And you saw that happening, and that's why Britain and France were getting very emboldened to do whatever the hell they wanted in the Middle East and say whatever they wanted and try imposing, you know, new rules on the Middle East.

Now that that conversation has been shifted, because Trump shifted it, right, and.

Just to say, how did he shift it?

Specifically everybody else?

Everybody else.

So I was just about to say, the biggest part of the conflict that was going to make sure the conflict never ended was that Hamas still held hostages.

Okay, Israel was never going to stop until they either got those hostages back or confirmed that they were dead.

And if they confirmed that they were dead, there was not going to be anything stopping them from doing whatever the hell they wanted.

They weren't they were not going to hear about it, Hamas had zero incentive whatsoever to get back those hostages.

In fact, they were their only leverage, right like, they can they can want whatever they want.

But without those hostages, they happened no leverage whatsoever.

So what Trump did was he changed the conversation.

He got there.

He said, I'm going to give you basically what you want.

I'm going to give you the ceasefire.

I'm going to let you guys run if you want to, and all that, and he put together a piece deal that was very on the surface level, it was very even handed.

Okay, it was that it gave both sides what they want.

But what you saw was Qatar and Turkey pushed so hard to get this done.

It almost seems unnatural, like why would why would Guitar and Turkey be pushing so hard for something that they don't particularly care about, right like, in fact, they probably benefit more from the chaos than they do from there being peace in the Middle East, of course, So what they did was was they took away the British and French argument that chaos is good, and now you have the hostages are back, and Hamas is under the understanding that if they screw up at any point, if they start launching attacks, if they start screwing around and not disarming, it doesn't matter how much money Turkey or Qutar promises them, They're not going to have any any respite.

They're they're gonna they're gonna be beaten into the ground and killed.

M So, now Trump has taken back the narrative, and that's why you're seeing people attacking Trump like everywhere they can about Apak and everything else now because they don't have the argument anymore that, oh, this war is raging, Trump has no control.

Nen Yahu doesn't carry controls Trump and he's doing whatever the hell he wants, right, that argument doesn't really exist anymore.

So now they're trying to focus on on all of these boogeymen that they placed around the world, like a pac like you know, the Jewish lobby, like Hollywood or whatever it is that they want to talk about that day, and they start pushing people like Nick Flentes.

Right, why does that matter?

Because Nick Fuentes is a unmarried teenager, well he's in his twenties now, but he's a nobody, and he knows he's a nobody.

He doesn't actually appeal to anyone except for online trolls.

Okay, so everyone's that, Oh my god, Nick Fwentez has been on Tucker and they're they're they're doing this and they're doing that, and it shows that that Nick Flentes is ascended.

He's not trust me.

When when normal people find out about Nick Flentes, the one thing they're positive of is they don't like him.

Okay, the only people that like him are people that have this cope that there's some kind of new right wing rising that's going to to take over the world.

And and you know what, I don't fault them for thinking this because everybody goes through this right like that was how many times have you heard over the course of your life, Oh, this new politician is finally going to figure out how to capture the young vote.

They're going to capture the next generation.

And then what happens.

They get slaughtered at the first election because young people don't vote.

They never have right and there's there's no issue that's ever made them turn out that they actually care about.

Even if they're very forceful about it in public and say we're gonna vote you out, We're gonna do it, they never turn up the numbers every single time show that young people don't vote, right, Right, That's why Bernie is not president, right, right, Bernie would have been president if if young people actually turned up to vote, because everyone's all Bernie's galvanized the youth.

They're gonna they're gonna turn around, and it's gonna be like AOC in New York and the whole country's gonna be Bernie sam type communists.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Well, that's that's always that's always a cheap Republican talking point to fundraise off of.

Right.

So going back to what you what you just said about Trump taking away the narrative about you know, the evil Israel versus Golesins and all that, it's the same thing he did with with Israel and Iran after bombing for it out.

It's exactly the same thing he took away Israel's causes ballet as to why Iran is the great evil in the world that everybody has to you know, has to orient their foreign policy against.

It takes that side of the the the narrative away and and we can now move towards, you know, neutralizing Iran.

The interesting thing, you know, it's it's but one last thing I want to say about this is that note the similarities between these two events, which is that when the war started, no one can came to Iran's defense.

The Russians didn't, the Chinese didn't, no one did.

Everybody said it was going to happen.

The same thing happened to the Palestinians.

When push came to shove.

No one really came to the defense.

Whether they whether anybody should or they shouldn't have, that's up to you.

That's between you and whatever God you worship or whatever ethos you you know, morality that you purport to have.

The reality on the ground is that it never happened.

I had made this point to Alex Brainer one day when we were on the podcast, and Alex was very much, you know, making a very cojun argument and emotional argument.

I said, Alex, I'm not disagreeing with you morally or in any way, but here's the reality.

No one came to the Palaestinians defense.

So what does that say about them?

Geopolitically?

Everything that I've always said, and you and I have always said together about the Palestinians, they've always just been somebody else's fucking pawn.

And that's the real tragedy of the entire situation.

Go ahead, Well, the Palestinians haven't always just been someone's pawn.

The Palestinians are the same thing as what happened in rod Asia, what happened in South Africa, what happened in Ireland.

They were a tool of the Soviets, right, the Soviets, practicing asymmetrical warfare, would start these liberation groups and these anti Western groups around the world and cause chaos until the allies of the US, such as the apartheid government of South Africa, the government of Rhodesia, the IRA in Ireland, all of the South American communist groups, they would start these quote unquote liberation movements.

And then in eighty nine the curtain fell and these liberation movements were in full swing.

But now they didn't have to answer to the Soviet Union anymore.

Now they just were free floating.

And they had been around for so long, and it so infiltrated our general conversation that now they were full fledged revolutionary movements that didn't just work to undermine the West in terms of Soviet influence.

They just worked undermine the West.

And then they and they had fellow and the Soviets had fellow travelers and I'm sorry, Sibby Bond and Brussels, the High Table, whatever you want to call it, right.

So of course, so, but but where is Trump's genius?

And you mentioned this before with Iran, and it's it's so important that when you say it to people, they kind of go, well, dub everyone knows that.

But then they think about it and go, well, wait a minute, this is a much bigger deal than I thought.

Trump understands the value of conspiracy theories because a conspiracy theory that's debunked gets so much traction that it's it's better than the original conspiracy theory.

When Trump attacked, when Trump was going to attack Iran, and when he did attack Iran to end the Twelve Day War, the common conspiracy theory was this was a war that was been planned forever.

It was going to turn into another forever war in the Middle East.

We were going to go for regime change, and this was going to bog down the US military in terms of twenty years, twenty trillion dollars.

And it was all all because Yahoo manipulated Trump, and then he proved them all wrong, and they didn't know what to do, right, So he keeps doing this.

He does it over and over again, and he's going to keep doing it.

Whenever they say, oh, well, Trump's just doing this because of X, right, then he just proves them wrong and he takes all the steam out of their arguments.

So right now, his current one is that he's in the pocket of Israel and that he'll do whatever Israel says, and he's showing them that it doesn't matter what Israel says.

He's doing whatever is best for America.

Right if it happens to be in line with Israeli interests, that's good, But he's not thinking about Israeli interests per se.

He's thinking about American interests, and the American interest is making sure that if there's going to be changed in the Middle East, or there's going to be confrontation with Russia or China, it's going to be on his terms and not on anyone else's, especially Europe's especially.

That's what's been so fascinating, right, It's been really fascinating watch him, you know, blossom into this perfect agent of chaos against the old British Empire.

And you know, I didn't you know, during his first term, I wasn't be honest with you.

I wasn't you know, savvy enough to see that angle.

But he but going back over his you know, his his this record, even during his first term, it was clear what his original objectives were.

The other day, physical kindover Promethean Action played an excerpt from Trump's twenty seventeen November twenty seventh speech twenty seventeen speech at Ossion and at the at the Ossian Summit the Asian Southeast the Association of Southeast Asian Countries asan Ossian and it was remarkable because it's exactly the same shit that he said it to un a couple of months ago.

And and you're like, Okay, he's always understood the problem.

He's always understood that this is that the British system of quote unquote globalism and free trade, through central banking, property packs, debt based finance and all of it, that is a that's that's their superpower.

And while Trump built a real estate empire based on that.

Notice how he's always reminding everybody exactly what he thinks real wealth is, which is puts gold plating on everything.

Yep, that's power, right, that's power.

And so you know, like at the end of the day, he's like, the whole point of all this is to accumulate real wealth and that and and his image system is gold.

And it's a very very powerful image system when you stop to think of it, and it that in and of itself, debunks all of these other stupid narrative about him being banglorious and egotistical and a narcissist and you know, creamsickle Hitler and all this bullshit, and like, none of that matters.

That's not what he's doing.

Go listen to his spe Watch the man with a generous heart as opposed to one you know, you know, frozen with the un the unquenchable grift and envy of Marxism.

And all of a sudden, he looks like a completely different person than you think he is if you look at all of this stuff, like the way he his image system ultimately is telling you, look, I want, you know, I know what what real wealth is.

I'm trying to show you what real wealth is.

And so now they're push Now you'll notice, like I saw this the other day, the British are playing this card that Trump is mentally unstable, his mental decline is absolutely obvious at this point when they get to the point where they're playing the mental decline card, you know, they literally have nothing left and He's got them over a barrel because they do they do the same thing to put you know, Putin's autistic and all that stuff.

So just fascinating.

So I think you're hitting on something that that's really important to note for people.

And I note this for all the time, and the more you see it, the more you understand it.

When Trump first was elected in twenty sixteen, right, he had a vision of what power meant in the United States that was incorrect, okay.

Is he thought that the people that he brought on to work with him were all united in the same kind of goal and that even if they didn't, you know, necessarily agree with him, that still the buck stopped with him.

Okay.

You saw that that was completely shattered by people like Bolton, people like uh, I'm trying to think of some of the other ones.

But they basically ow all of them.

Yeah, Pompeo, all of them.

So what did they do.

They didn't just come after him.

They threw everybody that ever supported in jail.

They threw Flynn in jail.

They threw Bannon in jail.

Note I don't like Flinner Bannon at all.

I think that they're unscrupulous grifters.

But at the same time, at the same time, everything was a warning shot to Trump, right, everything was like, we can still get you, you know, don't rock the boat too hard.

And then there was January sixth.

The impeachments I don't think were as big a deal as people made of them, right, because it was obvious they weren't going to throw him out office anyway.

So I don't think that the impeachments were as big a deal.

They wasted time, which which they accomplished that goal.

But it was January sixth that really changed everything for Trump because he realized that, regardless of what happened, that they could spin a narrative that he wouldn't be able to counter.

So what he's doing now is he understands the true value of power in that he's not bringing anybody in.

He's not letting anybody into his inner circle that he doesn't want they were in the first place.

He's giving massive autonomy to the people that he put in charge of certain things, like Basset, like even Jerome Powell, who I know he has a problem with.

He's still like he comes out and says stuff about Jerome Powell and then never follows through with it.

Oh, so he's letting.

And the best example I think of all of them is Marco Rubio, Yes, right, he and Marco Rubio.

Remember he's a Tea Party Republican.

He's he's never been a tool of the system.

Now I know, he's never also been a radical, and people look at that as if he's just a tool of the system.

But he's not a radical.

He's he's he never has been.

It's he understands what's right and wrong.

Though, So every time he finds a new snake in his circle, he fires them and then puts Rubio in charge of whatever they were in charge of first, you know, Like he's he's basically setting up that if things go as well as he's as he's hoping, that it'll be a Vance Rubio ticket for twenty twenty eight, or if Vance turns out to be a snake, which the jury's still out on, right, that that rubioa challenge him in the primary and win.

Right, Okay, Because because Trump could put his support behind Rubio just as easily as he could vance.

I mean, look at look at the future of Mike Pennce right right.

So, but now what you're seeing is Trump is running the show on the way a president is supposed to be honest with you.

He's not supposed to be he's not supposed to be a Biden.

He's not supposed to have this machine behind him that's really calling the shots.

And he's the guy that goes out and puts a smile in a pretty bow on it, right like he's he's not that person.

So when what he is doing, though, is he's exposing all of the people along the lines that have that have kind of screwed him over, whether whether by on purpose or not, like the Candice Owens is, like the Tucker Carlson's, like all these people that that's piled to his face and then stabbed him in the back.

Right now, what are all they doing.

They're all down the London path themselves.

They're all taking money from Qatar, they're all owned by by the different Arab oil interests.

They're not they're not making any sense to anybody, and they're constant shrieking about all the bad things that are going to happen because of Trump never come true, Okay, And when when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, right, this was this was a big deal because this was the time where people could all kind of come together and be like, Okay, this shit is wrong, Like we're not supposed to see people getting their their guts blown out on national TV.

This is not the kind of stuff that we want to see our children to see.

Right.

And it didn't help that it was right after that.

I always mispronounce their name, so I'm not even going to try.

But the the Ukrainian woman that got stabbed, stabbed.

Ziska.

Yeah, yeah, so I always pronounce it wrong.

Sure, But honestly, I still can't get that video out of my head.

And I've tried, like I want to forget it, and I can't.

Right because every single person in the US could see that that that's their daughter, yep, right, Like she did nothing.

There's not even like anything you can confuse that, like, oh well, she had a bad political view, she was wearing a make America Great Again.

Hat.

Nothing.

She was, she was, she was everyone's daughter, and she got slaughtered on a train for no reason.

And then a couple of days later, Charlie Kirk get gets his guts blown out on national news.

Right.

So at those times is when you have to be sober.

It's when you have to understand what's going on, and you have to seize the moment.

Right.

It's why Bush became so popular after nine eleven.

Like, there are times where you can you can be an opinionated asshole and say whatever's coming to your mind.

In fact, we want that most of the time.

There's certain times was where you come together and you just say, wait a minute, this is not okay.

Right, And and and Trump he rose to the challenge in spades.

And all of those people around him that have just been a complete joke and that have done what they could to manipulate the MAGA movement fell by the wayside because each one of them went into some crazy conspiracy theory about how Charlie Kirk was killed, that it was really Israel, or it was really this, or it was really that, and and nobody wants to hear that stupid shit.

They really don't like as much.

As as much as social media likes to pretend that these things matter, the people that say these kind of things are absolute losers.

Yeah, right, and and and Trump has shown that he's not one of them, which I think was everyone's biggest fear.

Was Trump just a twitter president that believed all this nonsense and just and didn't stand for anything.

Or was he a real man?

Was he a real leader?

And and he's been showing over and over and over again he is a real leader.

Now this puts us in a very perilous position because because now now that people realize what they're facing in Trump, the ultimate Trump card could be coming.

And that's that they can crash the economy.

Okay, because if they crash the economy, Trump gets nothing done.

Remember the midterms our next year, and there's a long time between now and then that If the economy goes the way of the Dodo, then Trump is going to suffer.

He's he's ready on part on path to suffer in the mid terms to begin with, because the party in opposition usually does well in the midterms because nobody votes in the midterms.

That's why it was always oh, the red wave is coming.

When Trump was president, it never came.

The Democrats actually won.

Well it's because I know I know that.

But no, so let's now break before we go too far down that rabbit hole because this is the Robert Barnes argument.

This is and who's who's one of these guys?

Literally that is crashed out in a way that is scary like, but I saw it coming because whatever reason, I've a reason.

I've been personed on growded with him for three years now since the last time, the day after I had him on my podcast the last time, which is I don't understand why, but hey, it is what it is now.

But I have to name names every once in a while when you see it, because it's important because you can see that you can see what exactly what you're talking about barely A Tucker Carlson and Kansas owns have now turned into Kansas is just like ridiculous, but yeah, I mean just ridiculous.

What's happening now for the mid terms.

This is why things like the redistricting plans and all and the voter I D stuff is also very important because what happened in twenty eighteen is not going to happen in twenty twenty six if these things happened, because our elections are we're finding out now that our elections were not one percent corrupt.

Our elections were seven to ten percent corrupt minimum.

And the older I get, the more I think about the systemic voting bullshit, the more I'm thinking that some of these elections are thirty percent inaccurate, okay, And so because of that, everything we think we know about polling, demographics, midterm turnout this that everything else.

I think it's all nonsense because I don't think any of this stuff is real.

If if like, for example, Emerald Robinson, who's you know?

I find you know Emerald is.

I find her just as crazy and as blakey as everybody else.

But if she's correct, she's interesting one day and then she's flaky the next because she's correct that the only reason Trump is is the president today is because you know, the guys in Serbia that were running the dominion and smartmatic go servers said no to Davos, which is then dudes like you know, to change all the freaking votes.

Then if they had said yes, it'd be Harris, We'll be living in a different timeline.

So everything we have to realize.

This is how precarious the situation is.

This is how deep, the fucking great the treason is, And this is why I have no fucking patience for fucking retards like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey and all the rest of them.

I got no patience for.

You're in a fucking war against against Keeter Philly vampires that will do goddamned anything to stay in power, and you're gonna sit here and argue about how many rothbarts can dance on the head of a fucking pin, like we give this shit about it, whether we violated the fucking civil rights of a bunch of fucking drug runners in the Gulf of America, You fucking retard.

What's wrong with you?

Well, this is the fun part, though, This is the fun part I And it was funny because I just showed my kids of this movie recently and it's it's it's such a real thing for Trump.

Have you ever seen Young Guns?

If I did, it was when it first came out.

So there was a line in it where Billy the kid always tells people he says, I never stole a horse from somebody I didn't like, right, right, And and then they joked they said, yeah, then he just killed him if he didn't like him, right, And Trump is the same person.

Why the people that Trump is gone at the hardest little Marco Rubio, DeSantis, Abbot, Cruise, right, these are the people that Trump want.

He basically said that Ted Cruz's father assassinated Kennedy, right like, these are the people that he went at the hardest, and they're the people that are changing everything, right, Abbot with redistricting, Cruise with cutting property taxes and getting rid of property taxes.

These are the big deals.

Santis I meant, I'm sorry, but these Rubio running foreign policy in a way that's benefiting America tremendously.

These are the people that he went after, the Hart artists, because he knew they'd be the hardest to beat, because they're the best people we have.

And to be honest with you, the fact that they were all able to put it behind them and work together after that with Trump, it shows you that this was all they all knew.

It was.

It was just politics.

It was smoking mirrors.

But all of the people that everyone told him in his first term were the good people, the Boltons and the Pompeos and all of them, they were the snakes.

Right, So what's he doing.

He's got them all off doing the things that America wants to see.

They want to see the Republicans have a pair of balls, right, that's Abbot, That's abbit redistricting in Texas.

That's Abbot allowing Ice to do what Ice needs to do and getting rid of the illegals.

They wanted to know that in foreign policy that we say something, we mean something.

Rubio's doing that, right, and Rubio's doing exactly what needs to be done.

What do we need to do at the state level.

We need to encourage them to cut taxes because that's the important part, because the federal government is never going to cut taxes in a way that's meaningful for America.

It's necessary that the states are able to function the way they need to without constant government handouts.

That's how you get the economy moving.

He's got DeSantis doing that in Florida.

Right, All of these people that typically the GOP hates, right, like Ted Racruz, barely wins his reelection bids.

DeSantis, while very popular in Florida.

Look at how well he did in the presidential primary.

It was it was a joke.

Abbott has been despised from the day he was elected.

You know, Rubio has run Remember he was little Marco and he was never going to win the Republican primary.

Ever, he was just going to probably run in the Senate until either he died or someone more dynamic came out about him.

But Trump is letting them do what they need to do, and he's putting the ideas in their head about what needs to be done right, and they're doing it and it's popular.

The stuff they're doing is very, very popular.

And I can say I can think of put even more color on what's going on with the Santas right in Florida.

Course for it in and I can tell you that's happening.

And DeSantis is calling this out directly.

He's calling out the Traders, Florida GOP, the Union Party that we have in Florida.

Like I remember, I've said that I told the story before.

I'll tail tell it again to remind everybody that I remember when when DeSantis was first like beginning to kick ass as Florida governor, and I said to Dexter White, yeah, but again, we all know that the Florida governor ship it doesn't have a whole lot of power, all the powers in the legislature.

And He's looked at me and went, dude, I been a thirty and most of my freaking life.

I've watched Republican governors come and go and get not one tenth thing amount done that this guy's gotten done in the first breaking six months in office.

Something has changed.

He's a different guy, and you have to like and I'm like, okay, fair enough.

And then since then you're watching how he's played the game.

And now he's calling out Florida GOP to try, who are trying to water down the abolition of property taxes for primary homeowners by putting five different things on the ballot in order to confuse the issue.

This is a very typical city London, dabos bullshit.

Let's just let's you know, let's split everything up and make everybody go crazy when it should be one lean three three line you know thing, abolition of property taxes for everybody who currently claims a homestead exemption in the state of Florida.

Gone, that's it, yes or no.

Yeah, And everybody's gonna you know, the vote board.

If it's that, everybody votes for it.

And not only that.

Yeah, it's not only that.

And this is why what's going on right now is so important.

You've got this guy Mandani running in New York, right and he's gonna he's I think he's gonna win.

Even if he doesn't, the threat that he could have won is there, but I think he's gonna win anyway, Okay, And if he wins, the number one destination will be Florida by far.

Absolutely.

There's even talk of the stock market moving out of New York right because because even if they're not so afraid of Mumdani, what they're afraid of is his taxes.

And because he's not going to be able to do any of this destructive shit he wants to do without raising city taxes, and he will, right.

So, every person of wealth, every business of wealth has has basically two choices of where to go, Florida or Texas.

And they're not all going to go to Texas.

It's too spread out, it doesn't have the infrastructure, and Houston Dallas are more liberal than anything on Earth.

So they're gonna go to Florida, right, And DeSantis is really setting them.

Up for it.

Yeah, he is.

And remember when when Trump's first attack on Mondamie was was was straight up He's like, look, New York Stock Exchange, if you guys allowed this guy to be fucking elected, I'm gonna I po Fany and Freddy in Dallas.

Fuck you.

That was the biggest fuck you to Wall Street I've ever seen in my life.

And the best part about it was that TV Diamond over at JP Morgan the next day was like, and we're gonna and JP Morgan, we're gonna, We're gonna invest one point five million dollars of our money into the US economy directly.

We're not like infrastructure stuff.

And the I'm like, yeah, tell me that these guys aren't coordinating fucking talking points now absolutely, And then yesterday go.

To step further, go step further.

Elon moved his entire industrial base basically to Texas.

Right, Texas is positioning itself to become the manufacturing hub of the US.

Right now, what does Texas also have that that no one else does, a very very very wide border with Mexico.

Okay, if you want, if you want to piss off America, start bringing in trillions of Indians on h on vvisas you want to, you want to make Americans not even notice that foreigners are working at all, bring them in on temporary worker visas where they go home after a certain amount of time, and they can go right in and out.

You would never even notice it because they're not going to other parts of the country.

They're just going to Texas.

And Texas is fine with that.

They they've always been fine with it.

Right Like, pretty much every farmhand, every every beef worker, every you know, every manual labor in Texas is an illegal Mexican.

So as of right now, you secure the border, which there's been basically no border crossing since Trump took office.

Right, Okay, with the border being secure, you institute a temporary worker visa from Texas, which he's been working on and talking about just for some reason, no one's mentioning it, right like, you can find it on page seven, but you can't find it on page one.

And Florida becomes the Silicon Valley of the country.

Right All the wealth from the Northeast and the West is moving to Florida, and DeSantis has done nothing but encourage them to do it by getting rid of property taxes.

School choice, you're going to make private school cheaper for people that make over one hundred thousand dollars a year whoa sign me up like eas is encouraging everyone to bring their businesses.

If anything, you're looking at it, and what's interesting, You're actually it's a decentralization play as well, because actually right wing media is and is centered in you know, is a centered in the Long Triangle West Palm Broward and Miami Day, Okay, And the manufacturing is and and whatnot is in Texas and Arizona right right, that's where Silicon That's where the that's where the that's where Taiwan is.

Arizona is the new Taiwan.

Right, Texas is the new manufacturing hub along with other places.

And then uh and then the big one with the big one yesterday he comes out and he says, yeah, I just booked at the South Koreans and they're going and their shipbuilding companies are going to come to Philadelphia and start to make it fucking ships in Philadelphia.

How to turn a blue, how to throw a purple state red?

Give them my friend Vincelaunchi, So we tweeted this out this morning, give him ship building jobs, like it's so obvious.

And I Halsey when we were when you know, we were you know, babes in the woods doing this ship back in twenty seventeen, and I looked at the uh, looked at the Trump tax cut.

I looked at it, and I went, all than the salt with the salt deduction.

I went, this is the biggest piece of political legislation I've seen since FDR is a new deal.

Somewhere in somewhere in purgatory, FDR is looking up and going, well done, Donald, well.

Done, touche exactly.

And it's it's funny when you take when you take Trump, because again, if you just look at what he finds important, right, and they've always been able to portray it as he's very petty, right, like he takes cheap shots and he doesn't care.

But when he went after uh newsom right, what was the thing he went after about?

He he diverts the rivers right into the ocean to save this stupid, insignificant fish.

That's what he That's what he tweeted out right.

That people don't realize what a huge deal that actually was.

But I'll tell you what they do now, because because they've been diverting the Colorado River for a long time into California to supply water to Nesley and to the pistachio growers.

Why are you growing pistachios?

One of the most water heavy plants off of an area that's been in an endless route for for centuries.

Yes, right, and and it was always.

Been spent under the rug and and starving Arizona and Nevada and everybody else south of the southern you know, on the southern half of the Colorado River of that water.

When at the same time, if we end all of this bullshit in the Middle East, this will make that white happy.

We can lift the sanctions on Iran and everybody can find out just how good Irani and pistachios actually are because it's just better than everybody else's.

Well.

And this is this is the funny part about what you're saying too.

And and I'm gonna get shipped from for saying this.

But Iran has never been a true enemy of the West.

Okay, the the theocratic government in Iran has always been a tool of London.

That's why, that's why the eye are told.

When he ran from Iran, he went to France.

When he when he when he arrived back in Iran in seventy nine, he arrived on an Air France jet.

Right like there always been a tool of chaos for Europe and pacifying them has always been what it's been, but right now Europe is losing their grip on even that, and it's I think the only reason they stopped the war when they did in Tehran was because they understood that Ron was probably just either going to collapse in and on himself or they were just going to become another Third World shithold that nobody cares about.

But again, while that was going on, I kept saying the same thing.

Everybody was like, well, we all know that Israel's a tool of the city of London.

I'm like, yeah, why do you believe that there aren't factions in Iran that are not also the tools of the city of London, And that this is right ants and black ants and Alex Kraner's aunt Jar getting shaken up in order to draw all of us to worry about whether or not we're going to get fucking newked.

I just said this, yeah, yeah, this.

The other day, I said, have you ever seen the movie Lord of War?

Phenomenal movie if you haven't seen it With Nicholas Cage.

He's an arms dealer, right, So at one point he's at an arms convention and he goes and he meets like the grand puba of arms dealing.

And the guy goes, I don't think we could do business, and he said why, and he goes, you sell guns, I take sides, and he goes, but during the Iran I Rock war, you sell guns to both.

And he said, you ever thought I'd want both to lose?

You know, that's that's right now, that's right now what they're doing with Iran and Israel and Trump that they don't want this endless war.

And trust me, no one wants that more than Israel.

I know, everyone thinks that Israel benefits from all these wars.

They don't like, not even in the slightest.

Right.

But if you see the levels of PTSD that came home from Iraq and Afghanistan, right, And we barely did anything there, Like, our guys were not frontline fighting.

Most of the time, they were doing police actions.

Our death counts were in the thousands, not in the tens of thousands.

These were not large scale wars, and they fucked up our troops bad.

How do you think a country of of seven million Jews is feeling after literally almost a decade of I mean a century of war like they benefit from quiet?

They want this to stop.

And the being able the go ahead to take out the Iranian nuclear program and the guarantee that America would make sure that it doesn't actually happen again on their watch was more than enough that whatever's got to happen is going to happen at this point, and you're seeing again a reorganization of the Middle East.

Like the worst thing that can happen to the Iotolos right now is to open up real trade with the West, and they're gonna have to because Russia and China can't keep it up.

They can keep China can keep buying their oil, and that's fine, but they don't have any water, they don't any tech, they have nothing, right, Like, just getting money doesn't help.

They need to have some level of infrastructure.

They need to have some level of stability, which the Iotolas have not provided.

So it's a problem, sure.

But it was right.

But the and and that's what's interesting about this.

You bring in Russian, China and Iran and obviously, well everybody is like continuing to talk about bricks, and this time the bricks is irrelevant.

Like like this morning, Besson just tweeted out and that that that unilatterally the Chinese came to the United States and expressed interest in the Alaskan freaking oil pipeline, the railway and pipeline, like they want this.

They know they're gonna need the oil coming out of Alaska.

They know they need to open up the Arctic.

And everybody knows that arc is the real future America, Russia, China, the and And that's what Iran has always, That's what all of these little forever war conflicts Cambodia, Thailand, all the all the border wars in the forever wars in Central Africa, stopping the rarers and the Cobalts into this and the lithium and all the things that we need Israel, Iran.

Iran got is real.

Gaza to Na Gerno, Carabac, Turkey and everybody, even the fucking hey who just went home at a Turkey Okay, like like all of this, all of these conflicts, all of these these these these it's insane.

Now.

The only like common denominator that's still going on in all of those conflicts is that Christians are getting fuck getting fucking slaughtered all over the freaking place.

And you know, and it's happening everywhere, and it's you know, and it's non denominating, and it's you know, it's everybody fucking doing it, and it's bullshit and it's mostly you know, and this is what has to end.

And this is and then on top of everything else, we have the goddamned Indians and the goddamn Turks continuing to play this fucking two phased game while they send their their ship all all around the goddamn world and then demand that we all that we all accepted or were racist.

How about no, I don't give a ship go home.

Go Well, there's something Trump did with China that and this is to be very unpopular, but I still say it all the time, and I don't care.

Trump let China know a fundamental truth that no one believes, and that's that China's not our enemy.

They've never been our enemy.

They've and I know people love to talk about the CCP doing all this evil shit.

And have they been Have they been fighting a traditional war with us?

Which every country does to each other.

Do they spy on us?

Do they steal our design?

Short course, right, just like every other country has done over the course of history.

We either give them to them or they steal them.

That's that's been hands down, no matter what.

But China has never been able to sleep at night knowing that the vast majority of Americans don't see them as an enemy.

Right.

So now what Trump has done and what is continuing to do, and he's doing it well, he's convincing people what I've been saying for a long time.

They're not our enemy.

They're a competitor.

Right, So how do you how do you what do you do to the competition?

You don't beat them down, right, If you beat them down and take them over, then all you're going to do is create a behemoth that's not able to be controlled anymore, that has competing interests, that isn't going to benefit anyone.

What do you do?

You work with them.

There's a reason why both Costco and Sam's Clubs both do so well, right, because they understand what real competition is.

Because they're not really in competition.

They both sell the same crap for the same price, for the same memberships and make billions for the owners of Costco and for Walmart and in return for the government.

Right, China's the same thing.

Okay, China just needed to get it through its head that we weren't at war with them.

We don't see them as an enemy, which Trump has done brilliantly, right, so.

When you're not, he's done this, and he's done this by neutralizing the British back in neoconservative or your eurotrash.

So now you can watch the Chinese hoke the Europeans.

When the Europeans try to put impose their will on the Chinese Nexperia, for example, the Chinese is hit right back, and now everybody's getting Now, everybody's in trouble, and the whole car industry is now Now now everybody's like reeling about the car industry.

To get to your point about about going I want to go back, because you're right about all of that.

So I don't think we need to belabor that point, but it's because it's obviously true at this point.

The worry for the midterms going back to the one thread we didn't really finish because I hijacked and move on to something else, and I want to go back to it, which is their attempt to attack the economy.

And then we're watching it play out right here right now with the shutdown.

Everybody's like, this doesn't make any political sense.

The Democrats are torture immolating themselves on this thing, like, yeah, they are.

They don't care.

They're in burnout down mode at this month.

They're in vandal and that's what you have.

You have to get your mind around that.

And that's why ultimately you just have to give Trump a very wide birth to clean all this shit up.

And right they're moving up the escalatory ladder.

I can see it in New York, Illinois, California, and whatnot.

They're moving up the escalatory ladder where Trump is going to have to arrest the sitting civilian state governors.

He's going to have to rest them.

They're trying to push him into the Lincoln scenario while at the same time they call him King George.

See, I don't necessarily agree with you on that, Okay, okay.

The difference being is this is that in the sixties you had race riots all over the place, right sure, And in the sixties there were some states that let everybody let the black neighborhoods burn themselves to the ground, and then they've spent years trying to rebuild them in some way and just cost billions of dollars in welfare and all of that.

And some were just like, hey, if they're going to burn down their own neighborhoods, let them burn down their own neighborhoods.

Right.

And what you're seeing is the end result of that now, in that for years, the Democrats were always able to command the black vote because they always promised them, we're going to rebuild, We're going to give you the welfare.

It's not your fault, it's all the racist fault, right, And their neighborhoods stayed worse and worse and worse and worse.

They never got better, right, right.

Trump is not necessarily making them better.

He's letting them know that the Democrats aren't either, and that and that the Democrats when they burn it down, they never rebuild it.

They're just doing it to stoke anger.

Right.

So that's why this shutdown is so different.

Like if you'll notice every other shutdown they blame the Republicans, whether they were in power or not.

They said, this is the Republican's fault that we're shutting us down.

They're doing it now, but no one's buying it because Trump's just saying.

All I'm saying is open the government.

I'll talk to you about whatever you want, and they're like, nope, we want guarantees of this, of that, of this, of that, you'll give us more like basically every all the welfare programs that they want.

They're telling Trump that they won't open the government until he funds and he says no, we'll talk about those things individually, but we're not going to let them be be shut put into a shutdown argument that has nothing to do.

We'll just keep it shut down.

Right.

This is it.

This is this is a replay of Pelosi and the Big Beautiful Bill, the Infrastructure Bill, and the death ceiling.

She forced everybody to tie those three votes, which could have all been handled separately.

She tied them all together because she wanted the whole package.

And she lost because Joe Manchin and Cures and Cinema had Wall Street standing behind them, going, yeah, you're voting against this, right.

Remember I remember I called remember I called all that back you and I covered all this stuff back then, and and it's the same thing.

Why are they doing this?

Why are they tying all these things together?

It doesn't make any sense.

You have a better chance of getting some of what you want if you actually just you know, negotiate.

They don't want to, because the point of the exercise is to you know, they voted against extending snap benefits while the government was shut down, and then are blaming Trump starving Americans.

Yep, and guess what, No one's buying it.

No one's buying it.

Yeah, because they can open the government whenever they want, and Trump's maite it that clear.

They can feel free to open the government whenever they want.

But he's not gonna play this game, right, He's not gonna And it's a microcosm of what's going on around the world.

He's telling the Democrats, he's telling Davos, he's telling London.

You can create as much chaos as you want.

All you're doing is creating chaos.

Enjoy the chaos, because I don't get burned down by the chaos you do.

So it doesn't matter because if I come out and say I'm not going to play this game, you can make every excuse in the book that you want.

You know, like you've created this, You've created this conspiratorial mindset amongst people.

So I'm not letting it have any power over me anymore.

Like you can go out and try to win a media victory, all you want.

I'm fine with it because guess what, the government's still not open, right, you know, And what you're going to find is that with the government not being open, whenever they do decide to reopen the government with for all I know, could be after the next year's mid terms.

I have no idea, right, whenever they do, I guarantee you that it's going to be on Trump's terms.

You know, I agree, I agree.

And what's interesting is, like, you know, the and this is where the people within supposedly the MAGA movement that are that are all crashing out now.

They're all screaming like, yeah, but they haven't cut government spending.

They haven't done this.

They haven't done like like dudes, like we lived off of fiscal year twenty twenty five's numbers all the way up until twenty twenty, up until October first, what fiscal year twenty twenty six was supposed to start.

We haven't even seen what fiscal year twenty twenty six looks like.

Why because they shut the fucking government down so that we couldn't see what what fiscal year twenty twenty six was going to look like.

Don't you fucking get it.

You goddamned Rechard.

This is like everything else.

They never want to go to Discovery.

They just want to screech and and and have a and have a have a lawsuit and then and then and then right headlines about the lawsuit.

But the minute we hey, let's go to discovery, no, never mind, let's settle.

That's where we are right now with the shutdown.

It's the same goddamn thing.

And now they're trapped and all they can do is that, and they're being told continue to burn it down because we're getting to a moment where there's going to be a there's going to be a financial trigger.

And you've been seeing the beginnings of this, and we're doing this on our Cober thirtieth.

And for the last week and week and a half or so, there's been all this talk about seizures in the credit markets, SOFA blowing out against above IOE.

R.

Powell doesn't know what he's doing, you know, It's all this stuff, and I'm like, I'm watching the sofa futures market.

It ain't nothing happening.

So clearly somebody's moving, somebody's pressing on the scenario, pressing on things.

Andrew Bailey at the BOE comes out and says, I think there's going to be a really bad credit crisis in the United States.

I'm like, why, because you're going to create one, you fucking slab me prick.

I wonder same thing with Mark Carney, same thing with all of these pricks.

They're going to try this.

And Powell just said the other day, yeah, we're yesterday, we're ending QT.

And frankly, if he has to start quey to stop, to restart qwey to stop these motherfuckers from from crashing our fucking bond markets.

Well guess what, Libertarians, it's what's going to happen next, because it's a war, and you have to think in terms of how you use the war to your fandash.

So what did Powell do yesterday?

Most brilliant thing I could have I could have asked for Because weeks I've been saying, hey, man, you know, if I have a if I have a if I have a criticism of Palin, you know I've been Howl's biggest fucking cock knobber for the last three years has been he he gives you know, he's too nice to the markets, he holds their hand way too much and then yesterday he cut, he cut interest rays and said, gen know what I might be done?

Yeah, which was you know he's going to cut in December.

Like it's no, clearly he's gonna cut in December, but he's leaving the markets with some strategic ambiguity.

Howel is starting to Trump to take on the Trump game because now he can do so, because now he's at a point in those last four or five months for him to do what he needs to do.

Yeah.

Well he's also it's funny because they give two huge things I want to talk about, but I'll start.

I'll start with Powell.

Sure, Okay, So in order for Trump to succeed, he needs to smoke out the enemies and show the world who the enemies are.

Okay with Howell, what he's doing right now is he's showing that the enemy is Blackrock.

Yes, okay, Because if they go back to QWY like pure Quey where interest rates dropped to like two percent again, okay, the housing market lights on fire.

Blackrock games without having to manipulate system at all.

Right, okay, because houses, because there won't be enough.

House o right wow, dude, yes, absolutely go for it, so.

Then everyone will be buying, there won't be enough inventory and the prices go up naturally, which nobody wants.

Okay, But if keep interest rates around where they are right now, and the property market stays about where it is right now, and he keeps deporting the way he's deporting, if jobs keep improving, which they are, and if the economy keeps doing what the economy's doing.

The fact that Blackrock is buying properties all over the country and then selling them at a manipulated rate in order to raise property taxes and get people priced out of their own homes.

Right, no one's gonna believe you.

It sounds like a wild conspiracy theory.

But if you just drop interstrates a little bit and get people looking for houses and they realize that there's not enough inventory, what do you do.

You hypercharge the construction industry, which is exactly what he wants to do.

He's been trying forever to build more.

He wants to build more.

Why are we not building more houses?

Why are we just arguing about the price of existing homes?

And nobody's willing to answer honestly and say, because we did this by design, we want people's property values to explode, because then people always think that buying a house is the greatest investment ever.

Well, we found out what happens with that in two thousand and eight.

Okay, so what do you do.

We need more houses and guess what we need property values to drop.

That's fine, or you.

Know, or even admit we just need.

What we actually need is to change the supply of what starter homes look like, because the average starter home is doing this work the other day.

The average starter home in the United States is two hundred and sixty thousand dollars, which is way more than a twenty two year old couple's potential three three x income.

Right yep, So they have to make almost ninety grand between the two of them at twenty two years old.

Not in this environment, they're more like looking at you know, sixty eight to seventy between the two of them, right right around, maybe thirty two grand each time is three it's two hundred and ten maybe, right, But soo, the point is there's a couple of things going on here, and I've I've looked at a lot of these things, and but that house was built in nineteen sixty nine.

It's probably a small three to two bungalow.

Like my first house was in North side of Gainesville, thirteen fourteen hundred square feet on a third of an acre, and it was my house built in fifty five, but that was thirty years ago.

They're buying a sixty They're buying a nearly sixty year old house.

I'm fifty eight.

They're gonna be fifty eight in February.

You're bying a fifty seven year old house which has got a lot of work that's got to be done on it.

And this is supposed to be your starter home, like I have to buy.

I have to kill myself for a fifty five year old fixer upper.

Fuck off.

No, that's not wealth generation.

That's why depreciate.

That's a continuing depreciating asset.

And I'm paying, and you want me to pay six percent for the No, but these are the houses.

But we sold, the Biden administration sold through FAHA tens of thousands of houses to fucking Base one bes here in the fucking America.

That priced our kids out of our freaking homes, and they're all in FAHA mortgages.

Now you want to know what the fun part about that is?

Ready?

How did I get my first house Halsey.

Do you know, I don't think I've ever told you this story.

Do you know how I got it?

I got it through.

I got it through a reference from a friend of mine who said, oh, you're looking for a house because we were getting thrown out of the house we were renting, you know, And it's just we were on at the end of a contract, right, We're on the end of the lease and we're at fourteen months in a twelve your twelve month least, and then the owner said get out, you got thirty days.

Fine, we had to find a house.

What happened A friend of mine said, oh, you're looking for a house.

Why I know?

A friend of mine has got a house over on the north side of Gainesville.

It's an faha loan.

He just needs somebody to assume it.

M h faha.

Mortgages for single family homes are assumable.

Yep.

So these so, all of these, so all of these mortgages on all of these houses that were probably sold starter homes at one hundred and seventy five one hundred and eighty grand three four years ago.

We're all going to come on the market when we send all these fucking people back to India or wherever Okay or Somalia or wherever the fuck we put these people, wherever we sold these people, and those houses are going to be in the hands of Bill Palty at Fanny and Freddy after it goes public.

We're going to rewrite all the freaking terms because they can now they can suspend on Frank because Fanny and Freddy our private or private organization after they've been IPOI and they come out of conservatorship and they can redo all of it, and they can hand those homes that three years three years and the three and a half percent that they put down paid off on that loan.

That's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars house now at one hundred and fifty grand, not at two sixty or two twenty five.

Now that house is worth something to those kids starting out.

Now you can restart recapitalizing the middle class m HM, and you can start building starter homes.

Because the person as missing the craft, missing the made if you're going to pick it up, pickup on the tie end that I made.

When you're talking about what BlackRock's doing right, Blackrock is doing this in New York.

Blackrock is doing this in New Jersey.

Blackrock is doing this in California.

Blackrock is doing this in all of the places with ridiculous property rates that may construction irrelevant.

Where is where is all the building going to come in?

The places that are cutting property taxes, that are cutting corporate taxes, that are that have no income taxes.

Where's all the building going to go?

To the states where all the jobs are, which are Florida, Arizona and Texas.

And to US or extent places like Alabama and Arkansas and and South Georgia and all of that stuff.

We're all and by the way, where all the timberland is.

And I want me to say something really offensive but really true.

Suhere all the black people are too.

Okay, Remember it's not the black people that are suffering around the country, because there aren't that many black people around the country, the vast majority of them in the South.

Yes, they are right.

They're the ones wanting jobs, They're the ones wanting to buy houses.

They're also not the ones burning down their cities because of some perceived welfare grievance.

Okay, Like I went to college in the South.

I went to the University of Alabama.

There was never a problem between white and black people down there.

That wasn't like some superficial, stupid nonsense.

Right.

I've lived amongst these people for thirty eight years, in thirty nine years in Gainsville.

I've lived next door to them for twenty two years in Southern Columbia County.

Like, I know exactly what you're talking about.

These are some of the nicest most you know, these are you and me with different skin color.

And they're good people, good church going.

They still hell, They still their Sunday go to meeting clothes for Christ's sake.

We don't we're all but solovenly fucking white trash.

But you know what else, they've never been coddled.

No, that's the big deal is that when they when they go to college, they work in high school, they work in college, they graduate with decent degrees, they get good jobs.

Like poverty is still a thing in their community.

It's probably going to be for a long time.

It's very hard for a community to work itself out of poverty.

But they're not the ones burning down their own cities because they're not getting a welfare check.

Right, They're the ones who are buying the houses they're the ones who care about property taxes.

They care about these things.

There's a reason why Republicans win in states that are mostly that have huge black populations.

Okay, it's not just because they redistrict and jerry mander the blacks out.

They don't do that at all.

In fact, they until recently they weren't even able to do that because the Civil Rights era laws.

Right, it's because the vast majority of people in the South are not like northern inner city people.

Right.

They're not infested with crime, they're not infested with illiteracy, they're not infested with this gimme, gimme, gimme attitude that stops them from ever learning how to read and write.

So when you're talking about the South becoming the new central hub like south of the United States, I'm not talking about just the Southeast, right, You're talking about groups that are going to be voting Republican for the next hundred years if this works out the way that it's heading.

Right, And it comes back to the argument that it's funny because it's been such a joke for so many years.

People are like, oh, well, how do the Republicans ever beat the Democrats?

The Democrats just say, here's all the welfare that you want.

The Republicans say, hey, go get a job.

You know what I'm saying, Well, guess what, heygo get a job.

Is how you get people on their feet.

It's how you give people pride and dignity.

And that's what matters in this world, okay, is that you feel a sense of accomplishment.

Like if you told your kids do whatever you want, they're going to be eating ketchup packets and soda until for breakfast every morning for the next ten years.

If you say no, they might not like you at the moment, but guess what, they're going to grow up to be good people.

Right in the South, there have been racial problems, obviously I'd be stupid to deny that they're weren't.

But as of now, you have states, and you have you have areas where the legitimate interest of the state is in helping everybody in the state.

And it's it's going over and over and over again.

And as I said, the play that's been done by corporate America and the Democrats is not working, and Trump is turning it on them, right because now Black Rock is going to be left with all of these properties in the Northeast that they can't do anything with, right, because the only people that can buy them are people that don't want to live there anymore.

Why would you want to live in a crime infested expensive shiphold.

There's not even any centers of finance, or there's not any centers of industry.

Or right political power or anything else, right, Right, Like, do you.

Think anyone cares what the governor of New Jersey says anymore?

Most people don't even know who he is.

And we're one of the most expensive states in the country.

But oh and we're about to elect a Republican I.

Think it would be interesting.

So yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right.

It's a very very good point.

And I reiterate to people all the time that Blackrock itself is not a very big company.

No.

Blackrock controls through your four oh one cave, a tremendous amount of assets under management, and they have a They have a lot of political power by have baby being able to appoint board members and everything else, but it's it's all shadow power.

It's not real power.

Real power is they have fifty five billion dollars net equity on their balance sheet or whatever the hell it is this quarter.

It's not a lot it's growing, but a lot of that is also housing.

Okay.

And so because they've been making strategic investments, as you've said, not just Blackrock, but you know Blackstone State Street, Bandguard, they're all doing it, and they're all and and they're now in they're now in serious trouble.

If this is you know where they are now.

You know they've been doing the same thing in the bird claves, in places you know, around Frauda.

What's interesting, what's happening in Florida?

And everybody'll here the the headlines all the time.

Property values in Florida are crashing, blah blah blah blah.

Yeah, what's happening is they were soon retarded and now the marginal buyer is not coming in.

The marginal seller is getting less than they thought they were going to get.

But there all that's happening is that the that the prices are just rolling north exactly as I said that they would because I've been living in the state for forty years and I know how it works.

So I'm in North Florida where the last where the next ring to get get to get to get paid.

If you know, and you can see it.

It's happening everywhere.

I can see the construction.

I can see the way it's working.

South Florida is full, you know.

And it's time for north central Florida and and the Panhandle and everything like west of Jacksonville and all through South Georgia.

That's all going to grow.

It's all relatively inhospitable to live in, but it's going to grow because it can't not grow, and people will figure out how to make it hospitable, especially when they can buy a They can buy a you know, a fifteen hundred square foot brick bungalow or ocylla block bungalow on five acres for two hundred grand and Starlink gives them internet access.

That's decent.

That's the big deal.

All the stars and everything changes.

Starling changes everything, and then starlink phone access.

Forget it.

Everything changes, everything changes.

So all right, my friend, this has been phenomenal.

I think we should cut it off here.

I usually don't like to go over ninety minutes on these, but you know, we'll do this again.

I'll be happy to go.

We'll happy to do this again on your show or whatever.

But give me a distinct and great pleasure of telling everybody where they can find you now and how they can give you support, because, my god man, you deserve it.

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