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Dudes on Mike Alstott

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Speaker 1

All right, well, let's give us the AI summary.

All right, our first dude.

Speaker 2

Standing six foot one inch tall, weighing two hundred and forty eight pounds, this bruising fullback was selected thirty fifth overall in the second round of the nineteen ninety six NFL Draft.

He grew up in Jodiette, Illinois, Yeah, and starred at Purdue University.

Speaker 3

In the NFL.

Speaker 2

He was known for his punishing running style and versatility.

He earned six Pro Bowl selections, a Super Bowl ring, and remains the all time touchdown leader in Tampa Bay Buccaneers history.

Let's get on Mike all Stop, Oh my god, and Jules, what's the first thing that you think of when you hear the name Mike all stop?

Speaker 3

For me?

Speaker 2

For me though, real quick before you like, I believe that he was bigger than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization.

He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization at that time, you know, that era when I was growing up and watching him, and that's what you know.

The first thing that comes to my memory is that he's a Tampa Bay buccaneer.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, First for me, neck roll, first thing, I like that, and then freaking Boomer just going.

Speaker 3

Remember on all his highlights, he goes like this guy, I mean just.

Speaker 1

A bruiser, And I just remember like he started out as his fullback and then he was getting tailback touches and he was producing crazy amounts of yards.

If you like the most north and south guy you can ever think of, and if you were a white guy that was a lineman, you know what I mean, White linemen.

Speaker 3

That were like in high school.

Speaker 1

I just always remember that they loved Mike Alstop because he was like the epiphany that maybe this is what it would looked like if I got the ball, and you know what I mean, he gave so much hope to every freaking little white lineman that was like six foot two point forty in high school that played fucking guard center or anything, like, you know what, if I hit a gross spurt, I could potentially be Michael Start m hm.

Speaker 2

That's the truth.

Was he like a super superstar in college.

I know only about him when he was on the Tempa Bay Buccaneers.

But did he actually like get handoffs in college or in as well, or did that start once he got into the second round?

I know, because he was that beastly of a full back.

Like what was his style in college as well?

Like what was his stats?

All right, so he played a one hundred uh no, that's his NFL stats.

Speaker 3

What was his college stats?

Speaker 2

That got him drafted in the second round because being that beastly at the fullback position, he at least had to show some skill set that he could still run the ball as well, you know, at that full back position.

Speaker 1

I mean he had three yard He had three seasons over twelve hundred yards month.

Speaker 2

So that's why absolute sat vision college as well.

I never knew his college.

Speaker 1

Fourteen touchdowns back to back, over one thousand yards for years as junior year and senior year, eight hundred yards his sophomore year, and as a freshman he had like two hundred yards.

Speaker 2

So that's what got him drafted in the second round as well, because he was showing the ability that he could run the ball as well.

Speaker 3

Is Rickie year he has sixty five catches.

I mean he was a great out of the backfield.

Speaker 1

He was great out of the Tom Rathman esque just overall, just a.

Speaker 2

Great back, including being a full and a running back.

He's a back, yeah, he's just a back.

He could play in any era an era.

Speaker 3

He could play it in the ear.

He could play right now.

He'd be great.

Speaker 2

Right now, he would be It would bring back that old school mentality.

Imagine him on the Baltimore Ravens right now with Lamar Jackson, Henry what's that he's the full back and then he also has a bit handed off to him too, Yeah, they do.

Speaker 3

What's his name?

Fullback?

Speaker 1

Ravens, big boy, he's the old defensive lineman number.

He's like two hundred eight recard recards.

A fucking monster too, he is, he's but he's.

Speaker 3

He gets a couple here and there, the little waggles.

Speaker 2

Do you look at him just I'm gonna get right into it.

Do you look at him as the best fullback of all time?

Speaker 1

I think he's probably the best hybrid fullback of all time because you look at Neil uh that guy.

I mean he was the fullback for like four rushing champs.

Speaker 3

Uh you know what I mean?

Uh?

Speaker 2

So Mike Alstotts the best fullback of all time as the running full back, the complete I think he's the best running fullback of all time.

Speaker 1

Okay, And I'm not trying to downplay his blocking because war Done had some fucking yards with him as well.

But I'm just saying, like Riggins was insane.

There's a bunch of guys that the full back position.

What he did is he revolutionized the fullback position.

It used to be the fullback usually used to just get a concussion every day because he had to hit a linebacker ten times in a row full speed, or the detackle on a waym or a bit, you know what I mean, He's just getting concussions.

He, as in Mike Alstott, literally revolutionized it.

We're like, hey, maybe we should give this big ass dude the ball on a short yardage play.

Started doing that, and then all of a sudden, he starts running for fucking fifty five yards, jumping over dude, blowing people up, you know what I mean.

So it's hard to say he's the best of all time because the guys before I don't think they got the opportunity like him, which he earned that opportunity because he showed it in practice.

He showed that he had the speed and everything to be able to do it.

But he's definitely up there.

He's the best running fullback of all time, I believe.

Speaker 3

Mm hmm.

Speaker 2

What I love about Mike Allstard is that he just represents a football player.

Speaker 3

Well, let me see, this guy was a football player.

Speaker 2

Like if you had to describe a football player, what a football player does, that's Mike Allstott just the way he had no fear.

Speaker 3

And I don't envy these fullbacks.

I'm telling you that right now.

Speaker 2

I love blocking jewels, but I love blocking a guy that's, you know, his hands down right in front of me, right on the line of screams.

Speaker 3

I'm talking.

Speaker 2

These guys are tap brother I got two brothers that are full back.

I know one play three years, the other one played about two years in the NFL.

And the way that they just line up in the backfield run five yards at a linebacker that has a full head of steam running five yards as well and just has that big, huge collision.

It's like a car crash on a daily basis.

I don't envy that they're tapped to another level.

They're special.

It's wild that gene that they have that they want to do that.

Like James Devlin absolute savage as well.

Speaker 3

I just tried to call it, James, you.

Speaker 2

Need them pick up, James, We're trying to call you, trying to call him because he's a neck roll guy too.

Speaker 3

Neck roll, that's what that's what you think of when you think of fullback.

Neck roll.

Speaker 1

Darryl Johnson don't forget him so well.

People don't realize the fullback throughout the week Wednesday Thursday, which are the two hitting days, we have the He's nine on seven practice drills where it's like you're it's just run game inside run game.

And I remember watching this and every fricking play it's just Dante high Tower going full speed at James Devlin, head to head combat every single play.

These dudes are fucking calcified.

Their heads are that's what they do.

They hit, they fucking their bricks.

I wonder how he was in the weight room, because I bet you he was just a fucking like every fullback, they have dedicated weight room time.

Well though, you know, like whenever the fullback is in the weight room, it's like his weight room.

You know, there's there's like a box of smelling salts.

Speaker 3

His knees are wrapped that elbows are wrapped.

Speaker 1

And I'm just talking off of like James Devlin and the guys that I play with, but I can only imagine it's the same way.

Speaker 3

Everywhere.

Speaker 1

There's usually like a bottle of n explode right before, like right next to him, so they could take a shot every time they're about to hit the squats.

Speaker 3

Like that's what the fullback energy is.

Speaker 2

I mean the guy trained by pushing the car one hundred yards, that's fullback energy as well.

Speaker 3

Right back car though.

Speaker 1

Uh jeep, oh there is I remember that energy.

Speaker 2

Jeep ain't easy to push.

Man, A jeep is an off roading machine, no, like that thing.

You know, it's technically a decent sized car.

So that's kind of describes Mike Alstot as well.

He's like the off road jeep you know that could also you know, have some talent to maneuver on the highway and juke some dudes and all start was the guy like had the neck roll.

He's a guy that looked like he could never duke a defender ever, like he's just gonna run over an opponent, which he did on a daily basis.

But then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this guy had footwork that looked like a running back and he would juke a safety, a defensive back or a linebacker in the open field and go for an extra fifteen.

It's like, oh, where did that footwork come from?

Like unbelievable that he had that in him.

And that's what made him so great as a ball carrier as well.

And then also what made him great too.

I feel like, yeah, he had those jukes, but when he was running over guys and blocking guys, this guy kept his feet moving.

And they always emphasized that great coaches, offensive line coaches, you know, tight end coaches, when you're in the blocking game, or when you're running at someone or trying to get when someone's trying to tackle to you keep your feet moving, keep.

Speaker 3

The high knees going.

Speaker 2

And Mike Alstott was the perfect example of that.

If you watch his highlight film, but Boom, his feet were always rolling.

Speaker 3

He never stopped him.

And that's what makes you great.

Speaker 2

That momentum never stops and you just keep trucking over mofos And that's what he did.

You know what, and hold on, let me finish on Michael alstar quick.

The greatest thing about him.

If you want to get the chills, if you want to see what a true football player is, you want to get amped up, you watch one of the greatest highlight films of all time, and that's Mike allstar it is.

Speaker 3

It'll get the hair back, It'll get the hair on the back.

Lifting.

Speaker 1

Now, I just had a thought in my head if Mike Alstot was a car, you know, he reminds me of He reminds me of the New Escalade with the Z six engine in it.

Speaker 3

Where that thing?

Have you heard those fucking cars?

Speaker 1

It's the Corvette engine in the Escalade, so it's got giddy up, but it's a big fucking piece of mass.

And that's what he was.

He was the Escalade, the New Escalade with fucking.

Speaker 3

It's a big piece.

It's a big car.

But look at the horse he's under it.

Speaker 1

Look at look at look at the engine, and I think it's got a six point three supercharged Corvette engine.

These things are fucking fast.

My buddy got one.

I don't even have a fucking escalator or anything.

This isn't an ad or anything.

This is just literally what I thought, supercharged supercharge, fucking six point three.

That's that's Mike Alstart supercharge escalator.

Speaker 2

Maybe a little bit too, like you gotta switch it up, maybe add some tires to it or something that's still I'll about put some like you know, like key the key, escalate a little back, put some bruises.

Speaker 3

On and some scars.

Well you just change the tires.

You're not gonna have rims on it once it gets dirty, never washed it either.

Speaker 2

That was you know represent we're talking and more to Zach you know t But okay, performance wise makes sense.

Speaker 3

I remember that game.

Speaker 1

Go back the two touchdowns in the Division round versus the Niners in two thousand and two, seventeen carries eighty seven yards, two touchdowns, Bunks Bucks stomped the Niners thirty one to six en route to the NFC championship.

Speaker 3

Was that what Jeff Garcia?

Speaker 1

He'd have like only eighty seven yards, But you didn't see the third and four or the third and two where he like just blew up four dudes and they he'd have such great situational runs like he was.

He is the perfect four minute back four minute being like the last four minute.

It's a situation that we all play out in our head when you play football, the last four minutes of the game.

How if you have a lead, how do you sustain the time and take the time off the clock.

You have to have long sustaining drives, but you'll have to keep the clock running.

A guy like him would be a four minute fucking running backs wet dream.

Speaker 2

And another trait that he had which never's really been talked about because as a full back you usually don't have patience.

You're ready just to rip someone's head off, and you're just ready to run with a full set of you know, full head of steam and just go take somebody out, and there's no patience.

This guy had patience has a full back, and that's rare because, like I just said, you're trying to run just full speed to just level someone.

But with the ball in his hands, he let the play develop.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 2

He was patients, you know, with the way that he ran north and south patience, good jump cut.

Speaker 3

Yes, great jump up.

He was more north and south.

Speaker 2

But he just had that it feeling for the game of football at the full back position as well.

Speaker 1

You know what, And people who don't realize that he was great out out of the backfield catching the ball.

Speaker 3

I remember him.

Speaker 1

I remember watching him catch the ball a bunch too on those little wide routes.

Him in War done on those double wide routes him and Wark done together were a great little combo.

Wark Done was one of my favorite little running backs too, and they Rendez Barbara on the other side, Derek Brooks.

Speaker 3

This was a fucking legendary team.

Speaker 1

John Lynch shout out, fucking break your neck over the middle, like.

Speaker 3

This was up these teams.

Speaker 2

I'm glad Lynch didn't play when I was playing, dude.

He so my rookie year, I would have been knocked out like four more times off that scene, and Tom when I have cared, he would have still thrown me the ball, like, oh, that's giant Lynch.

Speaker 3

I'll let Rob get you know, leveled.

John Lynch was.

Speaker 1

He used to murder people, murder I remember I did a thing with what's the sporting goods store out here, Modell's.

I did a thing with Modell's and on the clearance rack, it was like my rookie year.

There was a bunch of John Lynch Patriots jerseys because he was on the team for like a camp and so they probably ordered a bunch of jerseys.

I saw something, come pick it up.

Speaker 2

And another thing that also you know had in his tools is that which is actually the most important thing.

I feel like his leverage.

He knew that the game of football was dependent on leverage, perfect size to get that leverage, so he can blow up whatever defender he needed to or break a tackle and like to get low like that and underneath someone else's paths.

He was the master ad in and that's kind of what made him so.

Speaker 1

Like when you were in Tampa for that year a couple of years, was there like an all Stot aura in there?

Speaker 3

Could you know?

Did you know he was part of the organization.

Speaker 2

I mean, whenever he came around, you had that he came around a lot.

I'm not a lot you know, Michael Alstott.

I know he's big in the community, but you know, he came around every once in a while.

But whenever he came around I got to meet him.

I was kind of in awe because, like I said, allstart one of the baddest ass football players to ever live.

You know, you got to show respect to the ones that were before you as well.

And he kind of is similar with the style I play, but I would say that he's even a notch.

Speaker 3

Above me, and he did it at a higher level than me.

Speaker 2

Of that aggressiveness and playing the game of football, especially at the fallback position, which takes a lot more to do, but you feel that presence when he's around, and you appreciate it and you respect it to the highest level.

Speaker 3

Now, well, who's a mount rushmore of power runners.

Speaker 1

Let's get it, give us a Let's see what the power runners are because he I think he.

Speaker 3

Would be in there, Riggins would be in there.

Speaker 1

Who else Kazannka, Larry zaka Larry's power Runner?

Speaker 2

Oh what about the Guy and the Giants back in the day when we were kids.

Oh loved Oh Brandon Jacobs, Brandon Jacobs man.

Speaker 3

Or what about Peyton hillis for that one year?

Speaker 2

Oh Payton Hellis, Yeah, He's definitely up there.

He was on the cover of Matten for a year.

Speaker 1

I mean, Jim Brown was a fucking power runner.

If you watch him like he was the biggest fastest man on the guy damn Field like no one can.

I remember him punishing people like Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2

Derreck Henry.

Definitely.

Steve Ridley had it in him too.

I loved when rid was at full strength.

That's why it was his second year.

He went over four thousand yards.

But Red ran over a couple of fools as well.

Remember the game in London versus at the time the Saint Louis Rams just put his freaking shoulder down, just plaster plastered him.

Speaker 3

Earl Campbell, he was a physical runner.

Speaker 1

You remember those four arm shots he would give guys trying to take him down.

I would go Mount rushmore of power runners.

This is gonna be this is gonna be going hot in the comments section, probably, but you're you're.

Speaker 2

Putting running backs in there as well.

Michael Stought was a full back.

But we're just gonna combine them all.

But Riggan was just such a power of a powerhouse of a runner.

Speaker 1

You gotta go, all right this I'm gonna put I'll start one.

I'm gonna go John Reagan's two.

You there's only four spots you got to.

Speaker 3

I'm definitely gonna put Mike al start up there that you could take all Star three.

I'm going to old Campbell.

Speaker 2

Hm.

Speaker 1

I fucking loved Darryl Campbell as an oil oiler.

I didn't love him.

I just remember watching his highlights.

Kidney, I'm gonna go with for the one year, just overall.

Actually, no, nope, my mind just changed last one.

I was gonna give it to pay in hell.

Speaker 2

It's just for the one year, two years they had in Cleveland, because it was absolutely absurd what he was doing.

Speaker 3

He was running cover.

Speaker 2

He was he was on the man cover.

That's how good of a year that he had.

And he was running over.

Speaker 1

Archerynnis Marshall Lynch, I'm going with Jerome Bennis the bus, the bus.

Speaker 2

How can I not go with the bus?

Like That's all the guy did was run with power.

Marshawn Lynch was fucking powerful, especially.

Speaker 3

So many good ones.

Speaker 2

It's hard to have a mount rushmore of power runners, jewels who created this like this.

Speaker 3

This is stupid because they're all great.

What a rookie card on a on a heart?

What is it?

A Harley.

That's when you know you're badass.

Speaker 2

You're on the motor cycle looking like a stud, you know, filling out your chin, just actually eyeing down all the cheerleaders, just you know, during your photo shoot.

Speaker 1

Guy absolutes those look like twenty two inch arms too, dog those arms.

He look at his forearms.

I bet you he could hit a baseball.

Looks like an actor there he does.

He looks like a beefy fucking looks like and top gun.

He yeah, you know what, he's a pilot.

I don't, dude, he may be too big to be a pilot.

Definitely, those little cockpits.

M h man that he had frosted tips, did he?

I mean that was fucking the late late nineties, early two thousands, everyone did.

Speaker 3

I mean, Enrique Glaciers brought that shit out.

Remember that we all had this.

Yeah, the little spice tips.

Actually I never messed with my hair ever before.

I wish I had spice tips.

Speaker 1

I went to private school, so we'd put like, spray the ship in your hair and get in trouble.

Speaker 3

All right.

What kind of dude is Mike all Stot?

I mean he's everything.

Speaker 1

He's he's got dog tendencies.

He's definitely probably was he did.

He have dude dudes kind of vibes.

Speaker 2

I mean, when you're blocking your face off like that for your tear.

Always a dude, You're always a dude, no matter what, no matter what.

Speaker 3

Whiz.

Speaker 1

He's kind of whizz.

He innovated a fullback to be a tailback.

There would be no Peyton Hillis if there was no fucking Mike Alstott.

Speaker 3

Freak of nature.

Speaker 1

He's definitely, I mean, he's absolutely too sick.

He's also a stud though.

You see that, you see that rookie photo, That's exactly what I thought.

I said, what kind of fucking guy has a rookie photo on a Harley with this goddamn forearms that are eighteen inches his biceps for twenty two.

Speaker 3

That's that's Studeley.

Speaker 1

It really is on three one two three stod he really is.

I mean, that's all rounded us.

He was also the face of a team.

There's no like dogs aren't usually face.

You can be a face of a team, face off.

Speaker 3

A team that didn't even get much attention.

Speaker 1

Then went out and won a Super Bowl with yes, you know what I mean, and he was a huge part of it.

Can't can't forget Warren Sapp and the Derek Brooks and that great defense, Ronde Barber Kiffin fucking calling like they had some Those were some great teams.

But everyone knew Mike Alstoff.

You know, we were on the West coast and that was like Tampa Bay Bucks.

Speaker 3

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