Have you ever been fined?

Correct?

Yeah, and for what fifteen twenty grand I grabbed Reggie Bush by the back of his helmet.

I hed Chad Ochocinco on the head.

Oh, I face mask.

Somebody don't remember who that was?

No name.

Remember walking into your locker room, in your locker and you see like the FedEx FedEx right on your chair.

You're like, dang from the league office.

Either this is a Madden check because we're all on Madden.

Yeah, you're just hoping it.

Yeah, maybe something else, you know what I'm saying, Like something else.

Welcome to Dudes on Dudes, presented by Duncan, and we're coming to you from the Duncan House in Boston.

I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gronkowska, and this is the show where your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes.

And today we're joined by our friend and former teammate and my Krypton Knite who always brought it, Patrick Chung.

Ladies and gentlemen, Oh thanks for having me, guys, I missed you.

Let's go.

Dudes on Dudes Auction I Heart Radio.

Welcome back to the show.

Everyone.

This is Dudes on dudes.

And today we're joined by our good friend, my kryptonite on the practice field, and a good teammate of ours, Jamaican born three time Super Bowl champion, former Patriots team captain and Oregon Duck who I used to face off against back in the day.

We go way back, our friend, our family member, Patrick Chong.

Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing to.

How you guys doing dreads?

Through those dreads?

I mean you didn't have those while playing, but the very beginning there were many dreads at the time.

The real deal.

Now to see that totsy roll you said, don't say any dumb ship?

Was that dumb?

That's funny.

That's what we're talking about.

Before we gets tired, though, let me tell you I've kind of been slow a little bit today.

But whenever I'm slow, it's spend like my whole career with you, Patrick Chunk.

When I see Patrick Chunk walk in that room, when I see Patrick Chunk lying up against me, it doesn't matter how slow I'm feeling, It doesn't matter how beat up I am.

You always brought the juices, you know, through my body, Like your whatever juice you had, my body would juice up and I'd be going against you, and I knew I had a juice up because you always brought it to the table.

So I appreciate that.

I just wanted to say that.

And it's still to this day.

We haven't gone against each other in five years.

And the moment I saw you, I said, oh shit, is Patrick.

Let me get on my games because he's going to be bringing it against me and he might jam me right when he sits down on the podcast.

I gotta be ready at all times.

Yeah, we used to do that all the time.

Bro.

It was always little Gronk, big chunk.

We always had one hundred dollar bets.

Interception was two points, touchdown was two points, in completion was one point, a catch was one point, and you ever had the most points at the end of the day got an never paid each other.

But but we, you know, competing, Like you said, like, I just just hated you some times because he moss me.

I'd be like you dick, sorry, curs right, curse you, ship head you, and then I just and they just go back and forth.

So I feel you man, you made me better to broom.

I love when I made a nice catcher back.

That's right.

Bitch, that's right, And I tell all the other defenders because it would get everyone going, because it would get you mad.

But then what would get you more mad is I would just walk up to like drown or like the quarterback that's right.

You know, chunks my bitch today And they're.

Like, oh, you know, what.

Is it like trying to cover ground?

Because you you battled with him daily and we used to fight at least once a year.

I always fought.

We fought a lot o me and you you guys would.

Really you guys really fight, and we never actually really fought, we know, correct, Yeah, we never have.

He would try to set the tone for the period for the defensive side.

I would try to and then you know, sometimes we would never brother in law, when we were going for the force, he knew I was coming in for him exactly.

He knew I'd come in for him, and I knew that he knew I was coming in for him, so I had to get him hit.

Yeah, and then practice sometimes you'd give me like a little and I'm like, Jewels, stop it.

You're like, it's all good, bubbs.

The next player, I'm like, Jewels, you better stopped this ship right now.

And we'd argue like brothers and then go in the locker room and just laugh about it.

But going against this guy, not to blow your horn here, you know.

That's not take it.

That's taking very that's fine, but you're.

Gonna you're gonna blow But the dude.

The dude is big, he's tall, he's strong, he's has his his range, and he can catch.

And trust me, it's hard to defend that.

When you know someone's quick, you adjust your how you cover.

Someone's just big and slow, you adjust your cover.

Now you have someone that's big, athletic, can catch and has has the range, then you have a problem.

Or Arizona, we played it.

I never I gotta tell you people the story, coach says Coach Neil Oregon goes, Hey, you gotta cover Gronk.

I'm like, all right, Like.

I didn't knowho he were at the time.

Yeah, no one, Yeah, i'most see him.

Like all right, I'll cover him.

This was my this was my breakout game.

Yeah.

Hey.

Then I'm like, I'm like, ye'all cover him.

He's like all right, Well no one else can cover him.

I say I'll cover him.

So first first series get a pick six on Gronk.

I'm like, cake walk.

You want to know why because I did a whip rock?

Yeah, you don't have any doing hey.

The rest of the game, I think it was like eighteen to twenty catches on me.

I was like, holy crap, who is this guy?

This guy?

But for for your take, man, I was on fire that game.

There's games where oh yeah, I'm on fire and it's like no one can stop me.

I don't care who it was.

And you got me at my best, no, lie.

When when we came to Oregon and it was one of the craziest games because we were down three already five to three, and then we came back and it was forty two.

We made it forty five to forty two.

And my brother was on the team as well at the fullback position.

He had a couple catches up on the team as well, those play actions where he runs at the linebacker and then he just slips him and goes right up the middle and Willie Twatima hit him for a couple and we came back forty five forty two.

We were driving fourth.

Quarter with about Willy T.

Yeah, Willie T Baby, wait about four minutes left fourth and three and running back rolls out.

You guys forgot about him.

Willie T lost it all over to him and it went right through our right through his hands, and we all just got deflated right there on the spot.

It would have been one of the craziest comebacks in college football.

Hey would have been.

It would have been.

But you guys want but let me tell you man, that was my favorite place to play.

It was like playing in Buffalo.

You know, you feel like everyone's on top of you.

It's a true football atmosphere stadium.

There's no like sweets or anything.

Really, it's loud, it's a small stadium.

It's a ball They're on top of you.

I walked away from that game, I was like, yeah, we lost, but that was one of the coolest games I've ever played in because of the atmosphere to comeback and just my brother balling out and myself as well that game.

So we go way back.

Your introduction to each other was in the Pac twelve or Pac ten at the time.

I don't ever say Packed Twell.

Yeah, well it's not even it's not even existing.

Yes, ye, Pack ten.

I had twelve catches, one hundred and forty three yards one t d and I'm pretty sure you got drafted to the Patriots that year, second round.

I was like, he was the first pick we were drafted.

Yeah yeah, yeah, same draft.

There's a bunch of us, me you, Hoyer, Arruser, Ron.

Brace from who We had another lineman, rich Ornberger, rich Ormberger, oh Bussy, Yeah yeah, we had a class.

We had a good class.

Myra, Pyrol Myroral.

He was good, would be when he was out there the viral.

You got an er story so many but all I know is the man was great at like nineteen years old, full head.

But he was so funny.

He was like one of those people that wasn't trying to be funny, but he was just like hilarious.

Just look at him.

He just had some slick comment to him and just boom one.

Yeah, but he was witty as hell.

Can you settle this for us?

I keep on telling people that coach was super biased and super favorable to the defensive side.

Who's a defensive coach, so he knows, I mean, he's harder, he's harder on the defense.

Hey, Patrick, we're playing like the Tennessee Titans with Derrick Henry.

Uh Is this a run team or a past team, run team.

Coach.

All right, Gronk, how about what coverage did the offensive coordinator do when he was an offensive assistant at UOP.

That's fair, that's fair.

He won that one's question out of the.

Car and just throw it and then I wouldn't say something.

Yeah, you're right.

He hits you with that.

You're like you wake up in the morning, like god damn, you're asking me this right now, like seven thirty, Like, come on, coach, come on, coach.

My body still hurts from the last game.

I know what.

I can't think.

I can't think.

You can't when your body is hurting like that, you can't think.

I asked you a question on the spot, give.

You breakfast, put in the dark room, or ask me these questions right now.

I want to go to sleep.

You remember you remember the rookie dinner?

Yes?

Why would you remember the rookie dinner?

Because I had to pay the most of it.

One and two Tom comes in.

We're at bro Tom comes in.

I want to say, you ordered like three bottles of wine.

They were like seven hundred bucks a piece of some some crazy thing.

I think you had like a fifteenth ten came in and just I think He just took a sip or two and then just left.

And me and Dares I remember this, Me and Darius Butler were sitting down.

Someone ordered Louis thirteen.

Both second rounders did to pay the most.

We had to pay the most, and they left, and I remember looking at Darius and I'm like, fuck, it might as well just get drunk.

Yeah, we just drank everything, like whatever.

We had no cars.

Everyone was driving, so it was like.

But you got, really how much you paid dinner?

Because you were really you were first pick in the second round, so it's not you had to pay for it.

I paid twenty five grand, but.

You weren't even a first rounder.

That first rounder should have been paid back then.

Yeah, it look on the first first pick.

That's messed up though, Yeah, I know, would you pay?

I paid like three grand?

He ain't paying no fucking three grand.

I had to pay at least three grands.

How much we.

Forty grand?

I gave you literally like one twentieth of my fucking my money.

Well, thanks for the percentage, so I appreciate Jesus.

I remember we did ours when I was a rookie.

Mccordy, how I couldn't even make it.

I was pissed off.

And then I had a send mccordy a check.

That's a dinner that I didn't even make, like my family in town, and they like they made it like, oh, rookie dinner, like two days before.

I was like, I already have something scheduled that day, so I couldn't even make it.

I've been sent him since I was I was the second guy drafted.

I was like eight thousand dollars I had I had to send over to mccordy.

So I got away kind of you know what a easy Okay, Yeah, I'm doing fine.

I had no complaints, no complaints.

I was like, all right, McCarty had to pay like what I was like, okay, grand.

Oh bro, yeah, I'll te fait a lot of money there, now, Chung, what's the biggest thing you took from Coach Belichick as a defensive coach or as a coach in general?

Priorities?

Priorities.

I would say that, like, you get to put things that are important first, because there's gonna be distractions.

They're gonna be girls, They're gonna be you know, like you know, my life, the court and all these things.

There's gonna be distractions and all those things, but you got to put certain priorities first football or off the field.

Because you know, I love Bill and we've talked about things off the field that have helped me as a man.

And as far as putting priorities first, and you know, not dealing with all the nonsense, you know, that's what I learned most.

He's teaching us to be good football players, professionals, have accountability and all those things.

But at the same time he does teach us how to be men outside of football.

If you can carry those things over when you leave the building, you know.

So that's that's what I got from him the most.

And he's people think he's an asshole, which he is.

He was an asshole, but he's also a great ass he's a great person.

You learned so much from You learn so much from.

All you gotta do is listen.

Think he's just honest.

He's very honest, and people don't like honesty nowadays.

People don't honest.

I would say, I always say the point where he just crossed the line was like when he was an asshole for like an unnecessary thing, like all right, veterans, you have Kurfiew and you got to stay in the hotel and you're like, yo, I live, like I live closer to this stadium.

And I'm like so proven, Like can I just stay at home?

No?

And you're like, Okay, that's just unnecessary.

You love that, like you loved all the other moments of him being an actual coach, being like, yeah, so coach, because you learned so much from it.

It was just when he just took it up with notes for for no reason, You're like, does.

Just prove a point?

I feel like Tom Brady out that day.

I was like, it's just Tom Brady, but you know, he gotta make an example.

So the practice squad guys like, hey, he doesn't care.

He just wants to win.

You know, he's gonna he wants to bring.

What was that Brady cuss out?

Oh he was just like a practice like the what guy's wide open of Yeah, player came fine, you know how he talked and came and find the opening guy and blah blah blah.

Yeah, yeah that was it.

And that was like, I'm like, you did a skit where you did Bill with us?

Right?

Oh yeah, let him I remember you.

We because I think I was like b flow or something, or because someone was Scotty oo, someone was b flow Ryan Allen.

Well, that wasn't our class.

We were doing oh okay.

And then then Ornberger made fun of Matt Light's uh so Be commercial where he was in like a fucking all white.

I don't remember that.

I don't remember that one.

Jo.

This is a pretty good memory with all this someone someone somewhat somewhat.

No, you really do, Yeah, but I really just like it.

We make fun of them, Yeah, like undercover, they like they like it means.

We're like it bonds everyone together.

Yeah, and everyone's fair game.

Everyone's fair game.

Well, you gotta be smart when you're taking the shots at coaches.

You got to make sure you got the right person doing it.

Exactly, rookie doing it.

You're up before the.

Yeah, if you can convince the rookie to do it, you're fucking him over.

Yeah, and you and all the.

Rookies is gonna blame him to ye.

You got to take us through the DV room.

What was it like with the mccordy's, all the DB's that you played with, harm Like, explain to us who was that asshole, the jokester, the serious guy, this whatever, just go through and and give us the dB room.

First of all, we had a smart room because obviously, you know, Dev Jason drawn, everybody, Jay Jones, everybody j Jones.

So the jokester.

Devin, Devin, I was gonna say he's an asshole, but go ahead, yeah, you know, one time.

But all right, it's a real subliminal, like real like low key, just like taking a jab, but kind of funny.

He's definitely ja.

Yeah.

J Jones was quiet quiet, He's quiet, quiet, rarely talks, but he knows what he's talking about.

Talks because the corners over here, safety is over here, but we're still talking out there, like preparing for his flight test and ship.

Yeah, exactly.

And then Jason was quiet too, but he was like a more leaders kind of saying things.

But he'll say some slick as ship too, because obviously they're twins.

But Devin was just you couldn't stop them sometimes, couldn't stop them.

Devin Belichick.

Yeah, and then Steve's behind us, sees behind us, so that's pretty much Belichick behind me, and I'm me, you know what I mean.

I'm always like just I can turn it on, but most times I'm like I just want to go to sleep, so I'll just be sitting here because I know all the defense.

I know what the linebackers are doing, I know what the defense are doing, I know what everyone's doing, corners is doing, and I'm just like, hey, Pat, what's this coverage?

I'm like, sorry, what's this coverage?

I'm like, that's probably he wasn't in the meeting room like a one rat juggle.

Yeah right, I said, cool.

So I was like the chill one that knew everything and.

No, for real, you were like that yo, And he was like one of.

The hardest conditioners too.

Ti minutes before practicing.

I'm looking at you.

I'm like, oh, yeah, he ain't covering me today, sleeping in his locker right now.

Literally, we get up to the line of scrammage and you're still like kind of like daisy and like sleepy.

And also I'm like, what the fuck I just saw you sleep?

You just come out of nowhere.

You can turn it up at any time you were.

You weren't fooling me with those fucking smoke screens.

That's why I came every time you hit me one of these.

And I'm like, where the fuck is he about to go?

Right now?

God damn it, you just it's one on ones too.

Hey, first of all, let's talk about one on ones that is a tackling and drill for the defense.

Quarterback that sits back there and go like this.

M yeah, but I mean it's true.

It's it's I mean, it's it's a the you should win every time as a receiver.

I want to win every time.

I mean ninety percent of the time every time.

If I'm here and the balls here and you catch it, it's really just the release.

It's for the release because it's the top of the round.

In the top of the round.

But if you win the release, that's how you had to beat Patrick Chung.

You had to beat him at the release because all he was going to try to do is be physical with you and then competitive and then you could get him with the stems.

But if you got past him on the release, which was a tough task because like Rob said, he was explosive, he was patient, and he would fucking hit you.

You know, he wasn't he was never scared.

Like it's it's always harder for a safety to cover a receiver.

Okay, it was, it was hard for that's like if you saw a safety on You're like, all right, this is easy.

But with Chung you had to like really bring your game because he was gonna even if he knew he was gonna lose, he was gonna do something to fucking annoy the fuck out of you.

And it was always gonna be something contested.

And the quarterbacks like this ship yeah and then go somewhere else.

But you helped me with that, you and Welker, because it was me and you, our rookie year that the receiver after practice receiver.

Safety.

I'm like, it was just me and him and one on ones after practice, just boom boom boom, boom boom, over and over and over.

So I learned to cover receivers like they put me on t Y Hilton one.

Damn, Like I'll have help over the top.

I'm like, I'm about to let this man have it at the line because I know I have a little help over.

Smart football player.

Yeah.

So it's like boom boom boom bom boom.

And then so now I learned quickness from you and Welker, and you made me better.

You got my quickness.

Yeah, but that's why I was able to help it do the best I can against you on the line because I went against him for so long.

Then I went against welcome for so long.

So I I learned the corner way of doing things.

But then now you got this big ass dude.

I still have the corner things, but I can't be a corner because you can just move.

You just put your hand on me and like move.

So I got to be like now I'm like in with hybrid and I gotta be like corner safety type person.

So you guys really made my career honestly, between YouTube and Bill and Scott Yo, special teams coordinator.

This is National Football League.

You will get baptized.

What was your favorite on field moment in your career?

On the field, like winning.

A Super Bowl, jamming Julian fighting Jammy at the line.

That's making Bill proud.

But we've had so many moments, but how am I going?

Is the one that stands out the pon that you remember?

I would say the first parade, the first parade, the first parade, that's my mouth got that kick and like we're it was like we were low and then all of a sudden, it was what the hell just happened?

And then the parade people throwing nips at us.

Thank you, baking beers, thank you, left right hand, thank you.

It was just my first experience, first time.

Yeah, like that was part of fun.

Bro involved in it was that parade.

It was the best.

It was like you party with a million people and not one person can get to you because you're on the duck boat just chilling up high.

Oh man.

The nips were great, Bro, they were coming hot too, Bro.

Yeah drilled.

Yeah, you didn't give a ship either, Just tak another nip to the face myself.

Those are good times.

Those are great.

Time you went to Oregon, you talked about playing against Robin the pac ten.

I always remember when you first got to the Pats.

You always had the most exclusive Nike ship because you went to Oregon.

I was so like Jelly, peanut butter and jelly.

Because I went to Kent State, we were a new balanced team and shit, and you like, can you explain the relationship of being an organ duck and having swaggy Nike shit all the time, and like what it's like being a duck having forty seven different uniforms for like only three games.

It spoiled us.

I'll say that we call him Uncle Phil Uncle.

I wish I had Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince.

No, yeah, Bo, Bo called uncle.

I mean we'd have jerseys, Bro, the captains before on Fridays we'd pick you want these bottoms, these tops, these helmets.

So it was kind of it spoiled us, Bro.

Honestly, Bro, the most Nike thing you ever got.

Bro, you know how much Nike stuff.

I have a Nike tattoo on my the only help many Nike things I've gotten, Bro.

And you know, but how many shoes did you have in college?

Not a lot?

Bro.

You know, I wear the same thing.

I wear Vans and the same shit every day.

But I have a bunch of Nike shoes.

Yeah you know me, Bro, just give me a grill and some some meat and I'm fine, all right, call to day.

But I had a lot of shoes that still send me shoes and a very big advantage for us, Okay for.

Orgon this one.

This one answered the question we're looking for.

So when we would go up to the equipment you know, manager and be like, yo, I need a shirt, like they were always so stin jaw.

I just gave you one like three days ago.

That's at the University of Arizona.

We don't have Uncle Phil, you know, handing us out clothing, just like that when you guys ask for something, you know, from the equipment, you know staff at Oregon.

Was it even a question about giving it to you?

Or were they just ding who you are?

I would say eighty five percent of the players going there, Yes, you'll get it.

Yep.

I want this color.

I want this, I want this color.

I want this yea.

Yeah.

Favorite combo for the uniforms all black, all black.

All black.

It was flying every time.

You guys look so good.

All black every time everyone diamond.

Everyone looked to you guys, you know, as the uniform kings.

Not the highlights not a selling point.

Yeah, what about the highlighters those are kind of.

The all yellow ones.

Yeah those are nice too.

I like the all black nighttime, all black, foggy and organ people smoking weed because there's all hippies out there.

Yeah, I remember, I could smell that ship on the We're in a huddle one time, the Eugene Brouddle one time, you know, Walter Thurman, thankful.

So we're in the huddle one time and it's the organ hippies everywhere, and you can just smell weed everywhere.

We're in the uddle and walk goes, you smell that.

Yeah, I meant we're on the field, you smell that.

I'm like, smells like that good.

It smells like that good you're.

In the uddle.

No, it was a student Your student section was lit when we were playing.

Yeah, last one before we move into who's the Mount Rushmore of Orgon Ducks in the history.

Are we talking about going on and having success in the NFL as well or just all the success in college?

Because I would say, yeah, whatever, whatever you think the Mount Rushmore, we don't.

From what I've seen in played Oregon Ducks.

Now what I've seen in play with not what all the time?

Whatever?

Whatever you think?

Hello, Tinada loading, nada obvious.

Oh my gosh.

Guy.

Remember I blocked him and I was screaming.

I was jumping up and down, like can I block?

It was in the ANFC Championship game.

Blocked him?

I blocked him?

Well, what was he even doing mining up against me?

The guy was three my pants keep going.

There's so many good places, there so many good players.

That's hard, man, that's a tough question.

I'm gonna say this.

Marcus Mariota was almost unstoppable in Oregon just for organ We're not yeah, we're not talking about anything works.

Mariota had a really good game last year when he filled in for Panic or uh four Washington.

Jonathan Stewart, Oh running back Jonathan Stewart, what about blunt bumpy up there?

Look the Garretts up there.

Kenyon Barner is up there for Oregon.

Dude has all the records.

He's fame already.

I played with Barner in Tampa for Yeah, he was for like two years.

Yeah, yeah, last one.

I'm trying to think.

I mean, the Garrett's up there, Kenyon's up there, like even like lineman like Max Hunger is up there too, Like he was good too.

I had a great career in the NFL.

Yes, what I'm saying, I can't pick the fourth, but there was really good lineman at Oregon.

Yeah.

Those are my top three.

Bro're good?

Yeah, okay, Jonathan Stewart, though it was the dude was did.

You play with them?

Or was he a little bit?

Two thirty five ran four three four, benched squad and power clean more than all our linemen and jumped forty inches and he was just unbelievable.

Wow.

It was unbelievable.

Worked out did that.

They had like a powerlifting thing at Oregon went there and won that.

It was like ridiculous.

Bro wow, you guys have watched it.

Love you love to appreciate those guys because a lot of time those guys don't transfer to the football field at all.

They're just so powerful in the weight room and you know they can run so fast, but like they try to catch a football or try to run a route or run with the ball, and you're like, what the heck like that, dude, don't look like a football player, Like that's impressive that have those type of stats in the weight room and be that fast, quick and strong and then transfer it to the football field.

And that's what makes a lethal, lethal football, especially the running back.

Correct mm hmm, all right, Robbie, get us Duncan.

All right, so now it's Duncan donut.

Dude.

We're gonna figure out.

If you're jolly, if you're cream cheese topping, if you're powdered, don't it, if your chocolate Las Boston Cream French crawler.

But this is the episode where we determine what type of donut you are, So what kind of donut.

Is Patrick chalking?

That's the question here?

Are it off?

You guys answer first?

Lets you guys answer first.

But if I'm just the.

First time, I'm looking at all these donuts and for me, you Patrick trying to figure it out.

Patrick is like almost I think he's like a sprinkled chocolate glazed this is fun.

Come on, well he's Jamaican, so multicultural, you know, for his mother's side or his dad.

You got the chocolate for his mom who just so happens to be like a world famous singer.

You got a little sprinkle but dazzle because it's like it's like when you line up against him in one on ones, you just know there's gonna be a flash of something, and that's what the sprinkles represent.

I think you're like a chocolate glazed cake sprinkle like this guy.

What do you think, rob uh?

Maybe the French curler, because like the French color curler is kind of like a sleepy donut and you're always sleeping in meetings.

You're sleeping, you know, at the practice feel at first, but then all of a sudden you have a taste of that French curler and you're like, damn, that's a good donut.

It wakes you right up, and then all of a sudden you'll get woken up in the meeting.

You would know the answer.

So that's kind of like how I'm translating that.

What do you think you are?

I don't know.

I kind of like those answers, but I just like them.

I think I'm just a regular glaze.

Bro, You're not regular glazes.

I'm sweet guy, real plain, but still I taste good.

And that is the duncan dunkin.

Yes, let's get into Patricks.

We're just gonna leave it right there.

Yeah, you taste good.

Man.

We'll be right back after this quick break.

All right, So this is what we do, man, We just break down a dude and determine, you know that, we talk about what type of player he was, and today that you're our guests, you know, and we're thankful for it.

Going.

You picked who we're going to be talking about, and we do an AI synopsis about the guy.

So I'm going to hit it off with the AI synopsis.

Here we go.

Standing at six feet and weighing two hundred and nine pounds, this hard hitting safety was selected sixty first overall in the second round of the nineteen ninety six NFL Draft from Jacksonville, Florida.

He started three seasons at Clemson University.

Over a dominant sixteen season NFL career, he was a first team All Pro selection four times and as a member of the twenty eighteen Pro Football Hall of Fame class.

Also, he is the only player in NFL history to record a sack, interception, fumble recovery, and touchdown reception and a single game.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's get on Brian Dawkins.

Brian Dawkins.

What is the first thing that you think of when you hear of the name Brian Dawkins And why did you pick Brian Dawkins?

Patrick chunk football player, football player.

He can cover, he can tackle, He's stuff.

He can play a linebacker, he can play safety, he can play in the slot.

He can.

But at the same time, he's very reserved and peaceful.

You know, I don't like to talk to us.

Yeah, pretty much just.

Like you fight Chung.

But he was like, pick you up after he whipped your ass.

Yeah, And that's that's pretty much what I'm with him.

So pretty much the same size, almost the same pick just kind of everything you know, like he's just he can blitz, he can tackle, he can hit lineman and put him down, put put tight ends down, and you know, just a very reserved person that can tap into his wolverine.

And you know that's that's why I kind of describe myself like him, just kind of a just football player.

I wasn't the fastest, the quickest or anything.

Is just I just laid football.

I just played hard.

You told me I can't do this shit.

I'm gonna show you I can do this shit.

And if I can't do it, at least I'm gonna show you that I can.

And there's no giving up.

So I didn't.

There's no giving up with Brian Dawkins.

You ever meet him.

I met him one time, was on a visit in Denver, and he was at the table he's eating his lunch, and I sat there.

I talked to him and we talked for a little bit, and he was the same thing I'm saying, very calm, very reserved and very like educated and intellectual and talking to you about how, you know, how football should be outside of the field.

But then sometimes I watch football, I'm like, this guy is trying to kill people, like who is this person?

Like you said, I'm.

Sleeping and I just wake up and then I just want to go kill somebody got hit.

Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, So that's why I would describe myself like that, you know, just kind of yeah, he had a good game, like that's what boosting my career is that one game in Miami, same thing that happened to him.

What you explained that, Oh when I had.

The two block field goals, a block field goal, block punt picked six in one game.

And I don't know how many.

Talkous against Miami on the road, on the road, and.

That was my rookie year, and I remember that wasie and I remember as well Coach Balichick call us all out and why he took us and why everyone else skipped on us.

You remember that, No, yeah, it was the team meeting right before he was like, I remember he went by.

I remember coming to me.

Yeah, they didn't want you.

You had a visit to Miami.

They passed on you.

We grabbed you.

I wanted you here, And he went on about every single starter on our team and explained why you wanted, why he wanted you, why why you're here, and why everyone else passed on you and like it made you feel good.

I remember that it was right before that game.

I just he's done that multiple times.

Yeah, he's done it.

And when Miami was pretty good, that's when they had the Ronnie Brown year.

Two years before they were like Brandon Marshall, Brandon Marshall, they were a good football teams.

That slot receiver had the dreads best.

Yep, they had a good team that year.

Did you watch a lot of Brian Dawkins highlights growing up?

I did?

Actually, yeah, yeah I did.

That's the one person I did.

And so my mom always always just messing with me because her last name is George, Sophia George.

So when I was growing up, my favorite player was Eddie George on the Oilers, and she was always telling me that's your uncle because she's because you know, mama, my family is just a total clown, total smart ast.

So the whole time, like this is my favorite player, favorite players, Like that's not an uncle, bro, I'm like what, I've been watching this man forever, right, So, my whole time growing up, I was an Oiler fan.

I was an Oiler fan, Eddie George fan, and then switched to Brian Dawkins just just the way he carries himself.

And like, you know, I just I just liked him.

I liked him a lot.

He's one of the hardest hitters.

I got lit up in two thousand and nine when we went up and played Denver.

Remember that.

Mm hm, he's he's one of He hit me so hard I saw like a star for two weeks and like he like was so polite about it too when he hit me, like he lifted me up.

Like it's kind of like I was saying with you, like he asked if I was all right.

He's like you need to play young fellow or something like that.

Like he was just like, it's like you said in between, Like these some of these guys like the Brian Dawkins, the Troy Paulamalus, who don't do prayers every before every play.

When they are in play, they're not like prayer type guys.

They're like just straight one Tom, kill you good guys, but also pray that you don't get hurt when they hit you hard.

Yes.

Yeah, those one of the scariest guys to go overs.

And like it was kind of like a trick that they would use.

It was a tactic because they would absolutely love with you, and they'd be like, hey, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, because what usually when you get leveled like that, you freaking get all amped up, be in the drummon and starts following because you got to protect yourself and you're like, I wanna get that bastard back.

But he gets up and he comes to you, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, and you walk away.

You're like, oh my gosh, you was so sorry.

I don't want to hit him back.

You're so right, It's okay.

It was it was an accident again, and I'm like, this fin, I wish you just talked ship to me, like so I can go after him and get pissed off.

But man, bro, when you're talking about crack box, Yeah, there's sometimes receivers come in.

I'll grab him, and you know, receivers don't like get rolled up.

I don't want to see anybody hurt, so I grab him, I'll pull him towards him.

Hey watch, hey, watch your leg because the play is gonna be over.

Yeah, the old Thansy man And the next time, I'm like.

Bomb.

Eat this bro, And I was like, hey, we're just friends.

The last place they know we're not friends anymore.

I just don't want you to get hurt and call it a day.

So you're right, bro, total mind fuck.

It really is Where does he get what is nickname?

The weapon X?

It's Wolverine I think right it was a Wolverine.

Yeah, he has Wolverine's action figures.

That's what it is.

Is that.

Where's that rank them on cool ass nicknames?

That's up there?

That's it weapon X, weapon X.

That might be the best one that's had.

Separate weapon X locker.

Wait, name plate and all.

When I hit the field, I'm not Brian Dawkins.

I'm Weapon X, inscribed on his twenty seventeen Super Bowl ring instead of his name.

This guy, bro, his the WEAPONEX locker was to the right of his locker I remember right here, and he had his own lock bipolar, two different personalities.

Checklin hydrate there, that's crazy.

That's lethal.

That is so we're talking about b D.

Obviously, there's plenty of other hard hitting safeties in the game.

Let's let's get your ranking of the top.

You know three or five safeties that you would say are the hardest hitters.

Mount Rush game, mount USh more of hardest hitting safeties.

We're not talking about.

The best players.

We're just talking about well wide receiver lines up out wide and he's gonna run a shitty route because he knows.

He doesn't want to run towards that safety and he doesn't want the ball because he's gonna get absolutely smacked.

I'm gonna go with one right out the beginning because he went to the University of Arizona.

I know him well.

Chuck Cecil just an absolute menace out on the field.

I don't know, you don't know Chuck Cecil.

Oh my gosh, one of the hardest hitting safeties in the game.

They started making the rules change because of him.

Real Yeah, he was, he was, he was back there, he was.

I don't know Zach years that he played, but I still he's coaches at the University of Arizona now and I meet him.

I mean when I tap him up and I'm like, bro, what what the fuck?

Dude?

Like, guy is a brick wall.

Yeah, he's hitting a brick wall.

I'm like, I would never want to get hit by you.

And now I understand.

I understood why those players all got knocked out and whenever, whenever he left him, Yeah, he probably missed plenty of times because you're just running full speed.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Once he hits you, that game over.

So who's who's your mount?

That dude Landry they used to play big dude from Washington number thirty.

He's going to knock you out the Jets.

Yes, so sorry, but yeah, you know he'll He'll let you have it.

Dude.

His arms are bigger than my thighs.

Yes, it is a savage bro.

He got popped a couple of times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you know what you mean.

He got a couple of eight games.

But hey, you freaking he would, Yeah he did.

I'm trying to think.

I know you don't so damn.

I name one you don't like that land knocked you out hard?

That's fine, no respector's a guy that you respector TJ is a hard hitter too, and that kind of hurts you.

A little bit.

I gotta say that sucked me up.

I know it sucked me up to Yeah, fu me up, j Ward Award.

He'll miss TJ Ward.

You know, the common denominator about all these sees was that they were so fearless they didn't give all about their body.

You had to be like that Sean Taylor.

Sean Taylor, remember when he laid out of the punter.

Oh my god, it was the punter because it's during I was from Buffalo and uh, obviously Buffalo sucked for so many years.

The punter was the most favorite player on the roster of the Buffalo Bills.

He goes to freaking the Pro Bowl.

Mormon was his name, Morton Mormon.

I forgot.

Brian Mormon was on the silent right.

Yeah, it was on the sideline, Brian Mormon.

And he got absolutely leveled by Sean Taylor.

Was the biggest hit I've ever seen in proo.

He got a man, he did, and he patted Sean Taylor in the back after It was like, Broy, what the heck?

Last guy?

All right, keep it going, isn't it.

Devin mccordy, DIY didn't hit, He covered, He covered.

You know what, though, you know what, you don't want to say this tackle and you say this and people are gonna be like, you're stupid.

But if he caught you, it hurt heady bow.

Right, dude, if all don't know that, if he caught you, that that's gonna hurt a little bit.

Yeah, we gotta we gotta get some highlights of Ronnie Lott over there at Waters.

Take your least, We'll take Thomas.

Thomas can hit you could have oh ship, you know what, Cam Chancellor.

I'm sorry about that.

I forgot about that.

Man knocked me out too, Hey, yeah, yeah, hit me.

You put a less out there that Julie and I got knocked out by to be in there too.

That was your whole entire last he cam.

Up there, Bro, I'm sorry, I forgot.

So let's get back to Brian Dawkins first and only.

He's one of the first and only to be in the twenty twenty twenty club with twenty sacks, twenty interceptions, twenty fourth fumbles.

The only person alongside to him my new teammate Charles Woodson shout out charge.

Co worker Coker.

Charles only players with thirty five interceptions thirty five force fumbles.

This guy's elite.

He's got elite stats.

Hall of Famer became a Hall of Famer with Randy Moss in the twenty eighteen Hall of Fame class.

It was him, Randy Erlacker ray Lewis t O first Clemson player inducted into the Hall of Fame.

That.

Look at that Hall of Fame class, Randy Moss, Erlacker, ray Lewis, t O and Brian Dawkins.

That is a fucking class.

That's class.

That's a Hall of fame, Hall of Fame.

Class right there, big time.

All five of those names are headliners.

The headliners, and then the Eagles, who you played for, retired his number twenty jersey in twenty twelve.

Did he have like a presence in the Eagles locker room when you were there?

No, he was gone, gone, it was gone.

But was he talked about, Oh yeah, yeah.

Just everywhere?

Yeah, yeah he is.

He is the Eagles pretty much.

Yeah, him and Donovan McNabb and Brian Dawkins they.

Were the Eagles.

Does he still flies out and does the shit like for the pregame?

Yeah?

All right.

Let's determine what kind of dude Brian Dawkins is.

There's five categories.

There's a stud, someone who had the pedigree, he's been the guy his whole life.

You look at him, you're like, that's the fucking stud.

A freak, someone who is not human.

Randy Moss, for example, You look at him, he's too tall, too fast, and he could get out of breaks and he jumps too high.

Dog is someone who's relentless, motivated, physically and mentally tough.

Probably went a different road, but got to the area, got to the top.

A whiz is someone who is innovative.

He's got an intellect, revolutionary clutch, did something crazy and then the dudes, Dude, he's the guy who's the glue guy in the locker room.

Always has the positive attitude, always calm, cool and collected.

I can only pick one.

He can have multiple things, but we have to stay.

You can talk about it, you know how he represents a couple of the categories.

But what mainly represents Brian Dawkins.

My first initial was Dog?

What around was he drafted?

Second?

Second, he's relentless, very motivated because he's you know.

He's he's deep.

Into like Christian and it's just very motivated to motivate himself and you know, self growth and physical and mentally tough like Dog.

But then I look at like always always positive, locker room, calm, cool and collected.

I mean, this is a football it's this.

Is all five categories.

And that's why and that's why he's a Hall of Famer, The Hall of fame guy fits all five categories.

And he's also like a stud because he always was the standard like Brian Dawkins from day one, was always a professional.

Yeah he was, you know what I mean.

That's a tough question, man.

I mean he has an alter ego, and if you have an alter ego, you're kind of not a like lock like dudes, dude, like are you he's because like you know, different people, someone walks up to you like yeah, like talk to my altar.

I think he's either a stud or dog person.

He just took words out of my mouth.

I just mixed stud and dog together.

I was thinking freak though the guy looks freaky strong.

He's freaking strong too, but like he's not he was five what is he six foot?

You know he's not one of these like Cam Chanceller was like look.

Because he was like six four Yeah yeah probably yeah, So okay, okay, what do you leaning on, chunk?

I'm gonna lean on dog?

But what stud and dog or would be like one a one?

That's what I would say.

So because he's smart, he's athletic, he's well rounded, but he's also motivating.

He's physically and mentally mentally tough and.

Like not everyone can love a dog on the team.

Like people know, some guys like see a dog and they're like, man, fuck him.

But that dude is you know, like, did anyone ever say that to I think his own team, like he was probably I think he's the stud.

You look at Brian Dawkins and that's like the pedigree of this is how you want your fucking safety to be.

Yes, he's provo, he's a pro He's always done the right thing.

You know, he can do whatever you ask him to do.

On the defensive side of the ball, yep.

Yeah, he can go down and pay attention to him.

He can force fumball, he can have an interception when the ball is thrown to him.

He can cover and zone, he can cover, and man, I mean you got to be an absolute or you know stud.

I think what Julie's saying is the younger people would rather a stud, so they look at him like, I'm going to do exactly what this man is doing.

A dog is like you can have the dog in.

You but still be an idiot.

Yeah, the stud is like I want to be like him, and so so I get what you're.

Saying and get replicated and even you Chung, you wanted to replicate your game.

Exactly after Yeah, yeah, all.

Right, one two three with dog tendencies.

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Now you're gonna determine what kind of dude you are through a series of questions that we have patented.

We literally had the no one else.

In this specific order.

Actually yes, really.

Yeah, so hereb no, this is here.

They're they're quick.

Where it gets with your personality, You're gonna you're gonna love these questions as well.

This doesn't really have anything to do with football, just silly, random, silly questions about life.

Basically, that's all good, bro.

Yeah, and I feel like you fit this mold perfectly.

You're always down for a good time.

That's why, that's why we were so great.

You know, all our battles, we're.

Always like I don't want to go to practice right now, Like no, pick quick, quick, hitters quick, we're going fast.

Oh ship Joels, would you like to go first?

Yeah, I'll start.

You always fought John.

I can't stand you guys, easy guys.

I think I already know this one.

A couple of fights.

I think I know this one.

But did you wear flip flops in the show hour?

Yes?

Yeah, that's gross.

That's surprising people wash.

I agree in dirt that's gross.

No, No, it's definitely gross if you don't wear flip flops.

Yeah, but you don't wear flip flops.

I started to after I got some what I was.

Called no staff fus.

No, oh yeah, fungus.

What's turned into?

Uh?

What is it?

It's like a little ball bottom of your fo that's disgusting.

But let's just go on.

Yeah, those are the worst.

They hurt to.

Rob Jesus.

Cut that out, Please cut that out.

Cut that one out.

He wears he wears flip flops.

I wear flip flop, flip, I don't care.

You don't have to cut it out, all right.

What sports did you play in high school?

Track?

Football?

Track?

All right?

Who's the most famous person on your phone?

That's not Tom Brady?

You never had Tom Brady's phone number anyways.

Your mom, Mom, she's famous.

Julian I was like, my mom, my, mom.

My friends are just in Jamaica and they're like, I know, like singing her songs and everything.

What song?

What's your favorite?

What's her best song?

Girly girly, girly girly.

But she had a bunch of other ones though, Yeah, Gurley, she's more famous in Jamaica than I am.

Geez, yeah, Jamaica, Rustaman.

Shout out to Mama Chong you sing, No, really, I can write music and rapally kind of thing.

Oh you rapped.

I remember you came out with a song, So you did.

But you came out with a song at one point, like we all listened to it in.

The one song one years ago.

Yeah, eight years ago.

That's cool.

That's cool.

Mm hmm.

All right, what star recruit were you coming out of high school?

Two two stars in Oregon offered you.

They only usually take five stars and four stars.

You know, how that happened.

So coach Neil was coming to see another player and the saw me running on kickoff and just moved this guy and hit this person.

And coach Neil said, who is that?

And that's how I got scholarship.

That's what's up, man, That's what's up, Chungy.

What is your coffee order?

I don't drink coffee, No coffee.

But if I had to choose Starbucks caramel frappuccino, sweet stuff, extra caramel on the bottom, extra.

Food, food, extra food, so it doesn't even taste like coffee.

It it tastes like a milkshake.

Yeah.

Fact, that's how I actually got turned on the coffee.

I'm like, dude, coffee is nasty.

Like no, no, Someone brought me to Dunkin Donuts.

It was a iced coffee with Carmo swirl to squirtz or whatever and milk, and I took it.

I was like a milkshake.

It's a freaking milkshake.

And then ever since I got hooked on coffee because of that.

It is a milkshake.

What was your college GPA?

Oh, to begin with at the end, both to begin with, I was sixteen.

I'm like they don't check class.

You're sixteen college.

Yeah, I went to college.

I was at sixteen.

I was born in Jamaica, so in Jamaica you start school earlier than America.

So when I came over to the States, I just came in the grade that I was already in.

So I graduated sixteen years old and I went to college at sixteen.

And then organist, how old are you right now?

Thirty eight?

I just turned thirty.

I'm the nineteenth oh man.

So they didn't check class.

I'm like, you're not checking class.

I'm a little kid.

I'm like, are you in my class?

So I went down to like two point one, almost at academic probation, and then right back to like three point two three point two after they told me, like you're about to get kicked out of school, I'm like, okay, let me say two couple.

Of cool facts right there.

You didn't know, No, I didn't know that.

So when I was going, yeah, I was apposed a gray shirt.

Yeah you did.

You almost supposed to Grazier and coach Neil callmen that we need you now, Graycier, I just red shirted.

What was your age when you first your first nap on the football field at Organ.

How old were you?

I was turning seventeen, so like right, four years old?

Oh wait, holy shit, I didn't know that about you.

Man.

That's a cool young fact man.

You know that?

Holy only sixteen college?

What's the square root of one forty four?

You're sucking me up right now?

It's twelve?

Yeah, yeah, twelve.

You just you just caught me Like I was just sitting here thinking, like, are you serious right now with this question?

Yeah?

That was.

Eleven times fourteen, one hundred and forty four, one fifty four stupid?

Yeah?

Yeah, get out of here.

Not a numbers guy.

I'm a numbers guy, asked me.

Eleven times sixteen.

Oh, that one's tough, one forty four seventy six?

Oh did you just say it too a multiple?

I'm gonna off gold.

I wouldn't tried.

If I tried and actually use my brain cells, or I would have got it.

Yeah.

I just didn't want eleven times twelve.

Oh, one thirty three, one thirty two?

Oh so close?

Are you guys?

So you put this on?

Can you put that one thirty three.

Thirty two one eleven twelve one?

Then let me get that to the question.

They're trying to be stupid with the square one.

Get him back, let's get him back with that's why he was in college?

Is sixteen years old?

Like what?

No, that wasn't why just because I was just born in Jamaica, that's it.

No, No, your genius, that's what is?

How many surgeries have you had?

One, two, three, four, five?

All upper body?

It seems like you guys brocketing.

To and you're still jack, still still defined.

Maybe seven you call MCR like the manipulation.

No surgery, no sorn.

Yeah, six or seven.

Okay, we'll be right back after this quick break.

All right, chunny, what's the last book you read?

Nothing?

Cookbook?

Cookbook?

Okay, that's a book.

That's a bookbooks.

When I read my books and it's all pictures, that's still a book.

Yea.

The less it was Julian's pictures.

There was the kids.

What's the last book?

Where the Red Fring Grows Green Light?

Eighth grade?

The playbook?

Actually I didn't read that.

I just I just picked it up and wah, walk through this is where I picked up.

He didn't read.

The walk throughs are key to walk through, key to learning, Like if you know you're messing up in the meetings, like, Okay, I'll just I'll just pay attention to the walk through, and then you're moving around as well, so it's a lot.

Easier, Yeah, to pick it up.

People learn their own ways.

Check what's your game day outfit?

It depends depends on it was cold.

I might do a little peak coat, little peak peak peak coat.

Thing you washed the peak coat?

I don't wear it enough to wear enough to wash, but has never washed.

Hey, so when you wear a pair of jeans, do you wash it?

Do you wash it right after?

Depends on what kind of gene, And it depends how dirty you get the dreams exactly.

But if you're just wearing it to a dinner and you come home.

Wash it.

No, I ain't washing those dreams exactly.

So pea coat where I wear it two times a year in the winter.

Why would I wash it?

Oh?

No, I ain't washed.

For asking you, please please stop ask those questions.

I ask these questions.

Okay, yes, yes, ice bath or hot tub?

Hot tub?

All Rightum, have you ever been fined?

Correct?

How much?

And how many times?

And for what?

I would say, fifteen twenty grand I grabbed Reggie Bush by the back of his helmet.

I hid Chad Orosenko on the head.

I face masked somebody.

Don't remember who that was, No namer, I don't remember who that was.

And maybe a couple other things.

But so we're talking like maybe three hundred grand worth of fines, No twenty grand, twenty all together, all of them, because if you're a repeat offender, I believe it doubles.

It's only a couple.

They're pretty bad, but it's only a couple.

So fifty fifty grand, fifteen twenty, maybe you.

Can look it up, maybe twenty to find a lot, but not really hard stuff like little baby tedious finds like oh.

Like socks and shit like that, like I don't know, yeah.

You know, it's not like one of those ones where you stick someone so hard they have to give you one hundred grandly all that likeugh, his are like little seven small.

I remember walking into your locker room, like your locker and you see like the FedEx FedEx right on your chair, and you're like, damn, that's how you find out if you get either a check or I gotta pay some money.

Hey, you walk into the locker room and what there's just something tape.

Those a FedEx right there on your chair and you look at it from the league, from the League office, and you're like, ah, either this is a Madden check because we're all on Madden.

Yeah, you're just helping it.

Give those something else, I'm saying, like something else, or I just got fine for me hitting that guy in face on Sunday.

That's it.

And then you open up, just got fine and then you look right like lunch on you now, TAXI?

Was it go to to go to Goodell Foundation or whatever it is?

I don't know, probably Goodell's pocket.

Yeah, that's what I think.

We had him on our show You Love I Want To He was the first guest we had on it.

That I shouldn't be saying that, but yeah, we did love having the mind great dude to shoot the ship with.

Really hell seems really cool.

But he also understands that he has to be the villain for everyone else, so like he plays it, you gotta be the villain.

Back to the questions.

Sorry, sorry, topic, What was your fastest forty times four three nine for n and I used to run by and get open, so that means I run a four three two.

First, Oh my god, Arizona, Arizona.

No, what was it before a pi api?

What did you run at the combine?

Was that the four three nine?

No?

Four four seven?

That costs me money?

Astros, it's an asterisk man, time and time.

So fight breaks out of practice?

What do you do depends on what?

Yeah, how many are throwing?

If I'm around, it's not crazy, I'm like it, just break it up, guys.

It was crazy and I see something happening, like if someone wise like punch you guys in the face, I'd like, you can't do that to my friends.

Bro, like, back the fuck up real quick.

But a fight for me, I'm going, oh, speaking of this, fucking my fights.

So my rookie year, I don't know if you remember this.

It was me and Kevin falk K.

So I came in on a blitz.

You know, you come on a blitz and like you kind yeah, So I stopped, but I must must ahead, but him a little bit.

So I turned around a rookie heear.

He throws the ball in the back of my head.

I think, yep, and I backed up.

I'm like no, So I threw the ball back and I'm walking again, and he threw it.

He threw it back again, and this is young crazy pat.

I just lost my mind.

Boom.

So I ran at him and he tried to toss me and I grabbed him.

I won't say anything, but I won the battle that day, and Bill took me out of practice, put me on the sideline.

I was so mad, I had tears in my eyes.

He goes, he's done, but you know Bill.

I look at Bill and Bill's like this bro doing this fucking whistle thing and just smirking like maybe you.

Got this guy.

It doesn't take And how to apologize to him?

Thought a very big vet at a rookie age bro had to apologize, that's not ballsy.

A couple more more dog worthy it is.

I've been struck.

You'res just super smart, beginning a whiz because you're in college at sixteen years old.

It's because I was born like I'm still just.

Hat right now, thank you man.

I'm trying to become a rapper.

I'm the one and only.

If you don't know me, I'm sorry thereon.

Yeah, it was like Chunk's rapp medio he came out with ten years ago and showing us out in the locker room.

It was just as good as all right, we got a couple more.

We got a couple more for you.

God, how much?

How many more questions we got for you?

How many more?

All right?

I got one and then Julian will top it off.

All right, can you dunk?

Barely?

Modest person?

Barely?

I can.

But it's not like a rob dunk.

I can dunk.

I know you can dunk.

It's like I can barely get there and put it in the hole and just hunt, just put it in the rim and huh oh yeah, all.

Right, all right, that's not I like the description there.

Ye yes, tone it back a little bit.

You're a little out of hand today.

Yeah, this might be our most inappropriate guess.

But my favorite last question?

How do you eat your steak.

Medium rare or medium rare plus?

I need a little bit of I'm okay with a little bit of blood leaking out, which is really not blood and pink.

Do you use utensils?

Forking knife, fork knife or just hands forking knife?

What if it's like a bone in and there's some meat on the bone.

Well you're gonna eat the meat with forking knife, and then at the end I'll grab that thing and eat it like.

Big.

All right, I was worried for a little bit.

Shot.

All right, Chung, give us a couple of seconds so we can determine what kind of dude you are.

We're going to meet real quick.

Oh no, we missed meeting rooms so much.

We're going to have our own little meeting room right now, just to replicate, you know, us back in the day.

Yeah, he went to school at thirteen.

Twelve.

Wait he ran a four three nine, but it was really a four to four eight.

Yeah, correct, that's correct.

Hey, hey I'm here, No, no, no.

He yeah, made up as yeah kind of yeah.

All right on three one two three dog?

You know perfect?

Why do you think he's a dog?

Rob?

Well, this is a tough one.

Yeah, this was a tough one because your are a whiz as well.

You know, you're very you know, innovative, and you have a lot of intellectual thoughts and a rapper.

You got to be smart to be a rapper, to be able to rhyme words collective stuff.

But as a dog, you were relentless man.

Uh, you really were.

You made me a better player out there on the football field.

Uh.

And it wasn't like it was like, oh my gosh, as Patrick, Chung is the most freakish abilities and he looks like an absolute monster.

It was like, oh, I'm gonna get open on this guy.

He's not really ready and then all of a sudden you just wake up.

And that's like a dog.

He can be sleeping on the floor, boom, wakes up and he's running at the guy that rings the doorbell and just fighting his face off and having zoomies.

And that was you out on the football field.

You were a two star athlete.

You know, we just learned that through the questionnaire.

And a dog is a guy is an animal that is kind of you know, not given every opportunity, not handed him, and as a two star, you're not handed every opportunity.

You worked your way up there.

So we determined that you're a dog.

What else you got on that?

You know, you've overcome a lot of adversities in your life.

You've always been a.

Bring your as much as what anyone wants to say with you know, you sleeping in meetings and stuff.

When it was.

Practice time, it was like, bring your lunch, pale, bring your fucking hard hat.

Chung's gonna be here.

There's gonna be some fireworks and it's just gonna be, you know, one of those.

Types of days.

You always had physical toughness, mental toughness, and I saw the mental toughness when you know, we would go we would go out, have some fun and then the first day back chungs like the rabbit when we would all condition like he always had crazy lungs.

He always worked.

His dick off, even if it looked like he was tired or mopi or he never looked, he looked away, but he played a certain way.

And that's like a dog, bro, that's fair.

I'll take while you're a dog.

Do dogs ever back down when they see another dog that's bigger?

No?

Never, And you never back never ever ever watched in your career.

And I'm like three times the size of you.

Yes, especially now.

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Thanks for coming on and sharing with us the dude that you always looked up to, the dude that you wanted to go over.

Uh anything to plug.

Free free jacks, Free jacks, man team or rugby team?

What is a rugby team?

Explain this to the viewer listener.

And so that was my locker mate for years, and he's always watched the sport on his phone next to me.

I'm like, what are you watching?

Bro?

What are you watching?

He was rugby?

You're playing there watching the All Blacks and the seven.

So I'm like, well, let me watch.

So I started watching and started watching it.

It becomes very interesting.

It's like it's football without the softies, without the forward pass, without without pass and soft ass people that just close their eyes.

It's a man sport.

It's a man a man sports.

So Julian wouldn't be able to play it.

Oh yeah, you be able to play play.

I was just trying to throw shot out, know me and God just had that right now.

But it's it's a good it's a good sport.

And Nate called me one day he goes, you want to like partly own a rugby team?

Like shift, fuck it, let's do it.

Yeah, So we just own this team.

We won three championshire, do you guys play?

We're in Quincy Veterans Monroe of the stadium, Okay, and then that the new we had the championship and Putucket the new soccer stadium, I forget the name of it, and we won three championships all so really I got six rings.

Six runs.

If you want to say, Jack, free Jack.

When's the season?

When can people come to the games?

I think they start March April, so the spring sport.

Everyone go out, look up Free Jacks.

New England, Free Jacks Jackson three time, three times champions, back to back to back.

Back to back to back, three peak, three peak with co owner Nate Ebner, another teammate of ours.

Everyone goes support Free Jackson.

Thanks Pat for we have a good time.

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