It's the Rabel May connection.

You can see Rabel challenges him when he talks to the media, which you need to have that you can't just give something to something.

It's a little like the Bellow Chuck Brady situation then, but it's a different style of it because Bill kind of kept you know, not just Tom and checked a little bit in the media, which she did.

He really did.

So Rabel was around it.

He was around it.

He was around that development.

So he probably took what, you know, what he saw that worked and using it with May and he's doing a great job.

Let's ce if continue it next week.

This will be an awesome test.

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Super Bowl hil Mary's what the Patriots need, and the Denver Broncos taking down the defending champions.

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Can you believe we're already through five weeks of the NFL season, I really can't.

It just flies by.

Everyone loves football, and when you love something, they say it flies by in time.

And that's why we're already through five weeks.

In the blink of an eye.

Football is just great.

There's been so many games.

Sunday Night football games from Week one all the way through Week five have been just phenomenal.

There's been upset, but there's been comebacks.

There's been terrible teams, but there's been some great teams that have been coming out of nowhere.

Just overall, the NFL is back.

It's exciting.

You just never know what's gonna happen, and this whole season's gonna fly by.

It's already week five, but trust me, you're gonna say it's playoffs.

Oh, it's the NFC Championship game, it's the AFC Championship.

Oh, we're at the Super Bowl already.

We just love football.

Time flies when you're having fun.

A lot of key plays being made on special teams through the first five weeks, field goals that are like ninety yards, block kicks left and right, new kickoff rules freaking awesome.

It's been a lot of fun stuff and this is the time of year when you go into this next quarter of the season where it starts to shape off, it starts to shape up.

We start to see what team's identities are.

There's a lot of film now that can be studied on these teams, and the good teams start to It's not like, you know, it ain't cream season, it ain't even pasterization period.

But the stuff is what is it coddling or curdling?

This is curdling season.

This curdling season process, Well, yeah, it's when you get little chunks of goodness that are starting to start to go and sift through the miligation process.

Should we get into some voicemails?

Yeah, let's get into some boy, let's get into some voicemails.

Yeah.

My name is Michael from Indianapolis, Indiana.

Love the podcast.

My take is that Daniels Jones will finish top five in the MVP voting and the Colts will not only make the playoffs, but win at least the game and be a difficult out for whoever they end up losing to.

Thanks guys, I love the podcast.

Hey Michael, we appreciate it.

From Indianapolis, you got a lot of takes right there.

I'm gonna agree that Daniel Jones will probably finish top five in the MVP.

I mean, he's playing lights out right now.

It's sweet and it's great for all football fans, especially you Colts fan to see his career get re resurrected.

Yeah, I mean, you got to appreciate that when someone gets a second chance and they take full advantage of the second chance.

And in the NFL that happens a lot.

But you never know who's going to surprise you and takes advantage of it and goes, you know, and takes off to the moon with the opportunity that they're given.

That's what Danielle Jones is doing here.

And will they make the playoffs?

Yes, they will make the playoffs.

They're in a weak division.

The Houston Texans aren't playing so great right now as well, though big they got a big win last week.

What they've only lost one game so far, right the Colts, they've lost one.

So they're in the driver seat right now in the position to you know, win their division and make the playoffs.

And I gotta agree with him again, this guy knows his football game.

He says they're going to win one game in the playoffs and then they're gonna get booted the next week.

I kind of agree with that.

I mean, with what you see, with how far we're into the season.

You know, this guy watches football, he knows his football, and I kind of see that happening with the Colts as well.

Yeah, it's a little early for me.

Look they've started off.

I mean, just the projectory of where we're at right now, it is matter early and a lot of things have changed how you're reading it right now.

I mean, I think he's kind of spot on.

I definitely think that they're a very competitive team and they're looking really good.

And you got to tip your cap to Shane Stikn.

But you know, we've never seen Daniel Jones go out and do this for a consistent per period of time.

And just because we've seen guys like Sam Darnold who went out and won thirteen games last year with you know, the Vikings and Baker and what he's done with you know, the the Buccaneers.

Those guys are those guys are like a little different.

They're resurrecting their career.

Like at a consistent rate.

If he continues this, yes he'll be in that category.

But there's it's just so early.

I mean, they haven't they haven't really had any adversity to overcome yet, you know, in a in a short bit of the season.

Look, you know, you look at some of these teams.

You look at the Chargers, Look they don't they're on a There's a guy that I literally is off the street that's blocking for Justin Herbert right now at right tackle.

That adversity that you know they're going through the injury.

But like there's look at the Niners.

They're starting quarterback, they just gave two hundred and fifty million dollars to isn't playing and they're three and zero with the backup that didn't work out in New England.

That's like they haven't had any adversity.

So I don't know how they're gonna respond, but they are in a great position right now with the Indneapolis Colts.

Can you guys give us a team that will make a surprising playoff appearance?

Patriots?

That's who I was thinking too, Jules.

We're on the same page right now.

I'm going to go to any Patriots as well.

I like that right now.

I mean for everyone that says, oh it cold, it before that, all right, this is they don't realize how hard it is to win the National Football League when you have a new coach, new system, knew everything.

Like what they did last week has nothing to do with this.

But I don't know.

I think they'll make the playoffs.

Yeah, it's kind of too soon as well to really, you know, way soon for week five a surprising team in the playoffs.

Remember, like teams are just starting out identify who they really are.

I mean two years ago Philadelphia or when when they went to the Super Bowl and then they ended up not making the playoff.

Didn't they like win like eight games?

They started out eight to oh or something, and then they didn't win like their back couple games.

You look at Arizona a few years back with Kyler Murray.

They started seven to zero with Cliff Kingsbury and then tricked it off in the back end of the Like, the season gets harder, the season gets harder, and these teams that have gone out and won a lot of games early in the season have put themselves in a great position.

But a lot of things can change, and a lot of things can change quick in the National Football League.

I'm still going with the Patriots.

Me too.

Hey it with our voice, big fan.

This question is for Gronk as a Giant fan.

Obviously those two Super Bowls meant a lot to me.

But Gronk, I remember you being this close to catching that hail Mary the tip you just mistimed it.

How often do you replay that in your head saying if I were just a foot closer, perhaps I could have quught that touchdown in Super Bowl forty six.

He had a straight ankle, he would have been all right, or if he had a good ankle, he would have been a right.

Well.

No, if I had a good ankle, we would have never been in that situation, would have been up by ten points, and there would have never been.

A hell Mary.

Yeah.

Yeah, I went in with the damage ankle, only played about like sixteen plays.

I had like one or two catches, but then I was in there for the hell Mary.

And why and how I miss timed it is because I stopped at the goal line because I was trying to read the direction where the ball was going.

You know, I wanted to be in that position because as my job, I've got to be facing where the jump ball was going.

I got to be facing, you know, where everyone's jumping, so then possibly can come and get tipped to me.

So I stopped real quick, I pity pattern at the goal line to read it.

I read it, and then I went over to where everyone was jumping, and then I was literally just a tad like millisecond late, and I literally miss it by a couple three inches.

How often does the play in my head just whenever someone brings it up.

I don't dream of it.

I don't you know, can't get no sleep over it.

I mean maybe for a week after that game, I was like, man, I was that close to the hail Mary.

But like, that's the game of football.

It's a game of inchest.

So many different things can change throughout that game, not just to hell Mary, but throughout the whole entire game, where it can be won or decided or lost as well by just a few inches.

So that play doesn't, you know, haunt me at all, especially being able to win a couple of Super Bowls in my career after that after losing that super Bowl as well.

That's what really got me to get over that game was just getting back to the super Bowl and winning Super Bowl.

So yeah, that's that's my honest answer, it really is.

Julian and Gronk just finished watching the Bills and Paths.

Hell yeah go Pez amazing win.

Punt intended have a quick question.

Obviously you guys are watching this as well.

Right, I'm more than sure Brady's watching it somewhere out there, pulling all the way from Texas.

Is gonna fly out to Boston November first to watch the game November second for the for the Falcons, And I just have a quick question for you, right, I know that this team has you know, succeeded from from last year.

It will progress from what you hear.

I wanted to know what you guys have thought about the Mike Rabel and May connection.

Is it closer to Belichick and Brady or is it closer to a mcgarment and and Alan or which other one would you compare it to.

I think it's awesome see All and Fossborough.

I think it's the Rabel May connection.

Uh.

You can see Rabel challenges him when he talks to the media, which you need to have that you can't just give something to someone or they don't appreciate it.

Anymore.

They don't appreciate it as much.

It's kind of like, you know, I don't know, like I feel they're not pampering him a lot.

They're giving him a lot.

He's digesting a lot.

But I do see you hear little snipbits from the media with Rabel like him as a leader, we need like he just keeps the he keeps the fire up under it, keeps him in check, keeps him in check a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, So I if I had to compare it, I mean, I would say it's a it's a little like the Bello check Brady situation then, but it's a different style of it because Bill kind of kept you know, not just tom in checked a little bit in the media, which he did, he really did, so he did it to everyone though.

But I don't want to compare the situation to those two because it's totally different.

But he asked the question.

So I would say there's a little resemblance in that because Rabel's just you know, keeping.

Rabels around it.

Yeah, verb, yeah, Rabel, and he was and he was around it was development, so he probably took what, you know, what he saw that worked worked in that in that you know in that relationship and using what worked, you know, and and using what he saw worked and using it with May.

And he's doing a great job, he really is.

May's looking confident out there.

He's a leader of Rabel's doing his thing as a coach, and this team is getting better on a weekly basis.

And Drake May out there is just being able.

From his rookie year to his second year, he has progressed and made an unbelievable step as well.

Let's see if he continue it next week.

This will be an awesome test.

Yo, Jules Grunt.

With all this AI deep fake stuff that's going on now online, how do you how long do you think before a team fakes an injury video to mess with the whole league, like, for example, a fake clip of a QB limping around in practice just to get the defense prepping wrong.

Do you think we're close to that or no?

And also would you consider that cheating?

Yeah?

That is cheating.

I mean that is cheating.

Yeah, you're breaking the integrity of the game.

But man, if it could love the question, I love your thinking out of the box here.

If the team, like you know, I know why I.

Came up with this was probably because he got burned by an AI video thinking it was real.

Because who hasn't got burned by an AI video online?

It's getting absurd out there.

Like you just sign on the Instagram or acts or something and you watch this video and you're like, you get confused for a second.

You're like, what just happened?

And it was an AI video and you, I mean, you're not signing on.

I'm like, Okay, I got a decipher between a real video and an AI video.

But that's gonna be the thought eventually, once you get tricked by too many AI videos.

Who's gonna go that low?

Yeah?

Who's gonna yeah?

You're right, who is gonna go that low?

I can see that happening at like the high school level, maybe.

Maybe high school.

But you go to the league, people getting suspended, people are getting fined if this gets caught.

I mean, it ain't happening NFL.

The integrity of the league is way too important to the game of football, to fans, to teams, uh, to just every everything about it.

Next one, but that was pretty silly.

Hi Judes and rug Breedings from Germany from the Patriots International Fan of the Year.

What do you think the Patriots still need to really fit into the team.

We have seen night things again like Drake May the defense is super strong, but something is still missing.

What do you think about it?

Greetings from Germany to our eyes, Hunchin Juels and Grunk.

The squirrel Henschkin, Dennis, thanks for the call from Germany the Deutschland.

They're missing time.

They need time on task.

Look, we just saw a great situation that they went through last night.

Go on the road, on the in the division, in front of the whole country and play a solid football game.

They got to continue this.

They just need to do this more often.

They need to have these situations and go through these different types of games to build foundational things that they can pull from when they have more time on task together.

They're lying doing pretty well this year.

The more time they do together, they'll be better.

They just need more time because every situation, whether good or bad, is a bit of experience.

And and there's one other thing as well.

They gutta find ways to improve in the red zone.

I feel like they just need to be able to score more touchdowns.

You know, in the future, there's gonna be more situations where they're gonna have to put up points where it's gonna be crunch time and they're gonna be in the ready area.

Uh.

You know, you saw versus the Bills.

They beat the Bills, but they got stopped in the red area a couple of times.

Someone has to step up in the red area and become a true red zone threat.

If that's, you know, trading for a guy that's a good red zone a threat.

A J.

Brown.

Possibly that could be.

Yes, I think him.

And why why would I say no to that?

I don't know, Just you know, would you want the antics?

I think he'd be different.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

I mean if he'll be getting fed if he was on the Patriots.

But they got to improve their red zone area with however they're going to do it.

That's a good question, Dennis.

Dennis, we'll be right back after this quick break.

Who's this?

Tell Grunk it's okay.

We know a s U is just a little better.

Oh who's that coming from?

Cam Scatterbo?

Litte little Scott Scataboo.

He's not that little?

Yeah little.

He's short, he's sure, but he's stocky.

He's stocky.

Yeah, he's definitely short.

He went to his shoe their brains are short as well, short wired, that is.

Oh oh sorry, Uh so you're talking I'm hyping you up.

I'm saying I became a fan of you even though you're on a s U.

I was still cheering for you because I love the way that you played the game.

And now you're coming on here dming us, you know, and talking garbage, saying a s U is better than a s U.

But you're also not even coming in strong.

You're just saying a little bit better.

Well, uo A is a ton times better than ASU, buddy, all over the board.

Yeah, last year, you guys had a year.

You guys won all those games.

Well, you're not there anymore, buddy.

I'm not a fan of ASU anymore.

The football problem because.

You're not there.

I was a fan of you.

So just focus on what you gotta do with the New York Giants and stop dming us and talking shit.

If you DMed us and was saying nice things, this would be a different story.

But bear down, go u of A.

We're gonna whomp your ass this year.

Buddy.

Let's put a bet on it fifty.

Bucks and say ahead of day ball for me.

Yeah, tell dave By, I say Hi, I still love your game.

Man, You're kicking ass.

Nothing like college rivalries.

Let's get in the chills.

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That was good, camp Scattaboo.

I'm throwing us at the that.

Was great, Old sketty.

He's a great player, though.

I just love the way.

Yeah he's fumbled, but you know who doesn't fumble at least once in their career?

Yeah, but you got.

But I just love the way he's a football player.

I do too.

He's a football player, and we gotta we gotta football players got him take care of the football.

They sure do.

That's a good point, all right.

With the coaching tip, you should be on the coaching staff, No shot, Jewels, the coach absolutely not be miserable, happily miserable.

Happily miserable.

Let's let's see what the cells do.

The week is.

Let's see, Hey, dudes, I don't know if if you saw that come from behind when in.

Philly yesterday for the Broncos.

But starting to kind of wonder if the Broncos are legitimate not I don't know.

Let me know, all.

Right, the Broncos are kind of like the Philadelphia Egos.

Uh, they kind of win games in very similar ways.

They're not really flashy.

They got a really good defense, so they can hold the other opponent's, you know, team to not too many points, where then they can win the game off of just kicking field goals, say, and they've done that before, I think, where they just won games by just kicking field goals and just throwing for a touchdown or two, and then when their offense clicks, then they dominate.

But their offense hasn't been clicking that much, but they've been winning games.

They're finding ways to win games.

And you got head coach Sean Payon, who's been in the league for so long, who's one of the best coaches.

And when you got one of the best coaches, he knows a lot of situations in football and he knows how to win those situations.

So they just find ways to win even if it's not flashy, even if it's not, you know, a phenomenal formula.

It's just a formula to win games.

And that's why they beat the Eagles, because they kind of beat the Eagles at their own game, you know, by just getting the job done and managing the game and not turning the ball over and just finishing the final plays that you need to finish at the end of the game.

Are they legit or not?

I would say they're gonna come into their own once again.

It's kind of like last year.

They kind of had a slow start and then they've came into their own.

Bow Nicks started developing more and more and then they went to the playoffs, but then they had no shot versus the Buffalo Bills.

They're gonna need a playmaker, you know, like a big time playmaker on the office side of the ball.

They got who they got right now, they got Sutton, but they got to step up more and we need exposive plays if they want to be legitimate.

Yeah, I think it's early.

But Sean Payton's notoriously great in October because he's a great coach.

Once you give him film, the study of his team and the other teams, he knows how to game plan, good game plans, so I anticipate them to continue to try to get better.

Bow Knicks has to continue to get more fluid in the offense.

He's had some great late game heroics, but you want to see a little more consistency.

Which he's a young quarterback, like he's still learning this thing himself.

So I think they're they're legit, but you know, don't go out and lose the Jets next week.

Courland Sutton caught six of eight targets for eighty one yards against Mitchell, with three receptions for sixty four in the fourth quarter alone.

Mitchell had previously never allowed more than two receptions or forty nine yards for a receiver an entire game.

Yeah, Mitchell's a great football player.

Sutton had a great Let's look at his little route tree.

You look at that.

You had a little the.

Seven boo let out one down.

They moved him around.

It was fun, fun little day.

That's that's good.

That's a good stat Courland Sutton looking like he's going to be.

You know, they got to continue to build that, right.

They got to continue to go off of it.

Fourteen games, they only have what twenty games together.

They got to continue to build and the way that he played like Sutton coming up big, you know, with those catches on a big drive.

They need to have that on a consistent basis.

Their defense taking the ball away too.

Their defense is just so great.

They just can't rely on the defense though.

They gotta make big plays, exposed to plays, put up some points so then they can trust in each other and complement each other.

So it's up to bow Knicks.

Yeah, it really is.

I really truly believe that it is up to Bownicks.

It is up to the coach, is there, the defense is there, it's up to the quarterback.

But it's also you have to understand he's young, so he's learning too, So you can't just like I think he's Joe Montana or Tom Brady and there's gonna be bumps in the road.

But you're seeing progression with bow Knicks and how he's winning some of these games and it's not ugly, but it's still a win.

And it's hard to win in this league.

And to say if they're legit or not, I'm gonna say not.

And this is why, because legit teams are consistent on a weekly.

Well, they're building to becoming legit.

Well, and that's why it's too early to even say are they or not.

But if I had to answer, they're very un insistent, you know this time of the year.

With what we've seen with the Denver Broncos.

Champagne not a coach in October.

So yes, he does so as of right now.

Inconsistency haunts you in the end.

You know, it comes back to bite you in the rear end and you will lose games because of it.

But like you said with Sean Payton, you know, coming a live in October and November and knowing how to get this team going, that consistency can get there like it did last year the end of the year for them, but it wasn't there at the beginning of the year.

So it's just too early.

It's too early, you know, it is just too early.

But everyone that's why the NFL is crazy.

Everyone just wants to make assumptions and just fund labeled teams of what they are when there's so many games left.

Fund vision.

Yeah, it is.

It's fun.

But that's why we love the NFL because it's fun.

You just one week it's your team's the greatest team in the NFL.

And then the next week year freaking throwing the remote at the wall, breaking your TV, screaming and yowling, get in fights with your wife because your freaking team didn't win the game.

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And then, uh before, we got to give our thoughts in prayers the Jones family, Chan, John, the whole Jones family for losing a member Art he was.

We played against him a bunch sad news, terrible news, Love you guys and praying for you guys.

Yes, terrible news.

I met Arthur once or twice, great guy, really fun, down to earth, you know, the oldest brother out of them.

I'm thinking about you, Chan, thinking about you, John Bones Jones, raining for you guys, and we just want to give our thoughts to the whole Inteler Jones family.

We love you, Chan and we're wishing you well and God be with you guys and.

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