Episode Transcript
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Speaker 2That's me.
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So thank you in it there name now, Beatrice, I need to ask you before we get into our recap.
After watching the episode, did you have any takeaways, any thoughts, any feelings, big feelings that you had to let out, big feelings.
Speaker 2I don't know if I got a takeaway.
Besides Lydia looks gorgeous.
I can't really every dress I can't take it, dude, every single one.
I'm just like, fuck you gorgeous.
Speaker 1My takeaway is that Veronica is a monster.
And as I was watching this, who was trying to read her aura and her energy and her vibes vibe check and my thing was like, what's your astrological sign?
Because you're giving Gemini like you're giving toxic, out of control, coddled Gemini.
You're also giving some fire signs.
You're giving some aries.
Yeah, you're giving some aries Mars maybe maybe maybe Scorpio, but no, because with Scorpio they're a bit more reserved.
They're definitely plottin.
Yeah, for sure, they can definitely be monsters, but they're waiting for the right moment just to sting your ass, whereas Veronica's just barfing her vitriol and her poison and her abuse over everybody and everything.
I'm like, what's your sign.
I want to know your son's sign.
I want to know your moon, I want to know your risings.
It is your absolute free radical psycho.
I bet she's like fire.
She's got to have some fire energy, because that's the kind of for me as a double fire.
I'm like, you know, you can get uncontrolled, uncontrollable fast because you're not calming down your flight.
There's no anchor, there's no tether to this dimension.
You're floating out there in a hailscape.
Hodi, girls, that's wrong.
You let yourself get possessed by demons.
You need to calm down.
We need an exercise.
And that's my takeaway.
Well based, Okay, So without further ado, let's get into the recap of Welcome to Blackfel season seven, episode six, entitled.
Speaker 2The Birds and the Bees.
Girl this combo.
Speaker 1I forgot about Barry because I'm focused so much on Veronica being an absolute demon.
Yeah, but like, what's wrong with bear Berry?
Speaker 2I don't know if he's like trying to be funny.
Speaker 1I think so, but like, is he not aware of some of the conversations that are happening online about how he's giving a little bit of that bread energy, no, a little bit of the pervness?
Like has he never heard that about himself?
Because wouldn't you try to watch what you're saying.
I just felt like it was so inappropriate and weird.
Sorry, I'm getting ahead of us, Yeah, getting ahead of our.
It was weird.
Speaker 2It was cringey.
There were some moments where I was laughing and I'm just like, God, but I was like laughing at the absurdity of it because I just can't imagine having a conversation.
Speaker 1Like that with my They were talking about boxes.
Speaker 2I know, like cooters, I know.
Speaker 1Like Perry's stop like, but I mean I also had a million children, so I guess he knows his way.
Speaker 2Around a box.
I mean you'd have to write yeah, shit.
But we start the episode off at the Plath family farm.
We have the family doing some landscaping prep in preparation for Lydia's wedding because she's gonna get married there, and we have Isaac.
He's so handsome, he is so tall, He's so tall.
Speaker 1Tall drink of water.
What a handsome youngness.
Speaker 2So handsome.
We got Isaac, we got Barry.
And then we also have Amber and Ethan, who have just returned from their.
Speaker 3Awful, tense, abusive, tite marriage Boca, and everyone starts kind of talking some shit subtly about Veronica.
Speaker 1Subtly.
Speaker 2Well, they're not like calling her a big old nasty bitch.
They're just saying like she's.
Speaker 1Crazy, right, and they're bringing up how her behavior when Ethan and Amber were in Boca was belittling and degrading, yes, toward Micah.
Barry is obviously concerned about what's happening to his son, and even Isaac is just like, I'm sorry.
We lived through Olivia, Like we already know what this is like, and I don't want any part of this with Veronica.
And if she's going to be coming my family and like bugging my fifteen year old sister and gas lamping Micah, then I'm gonna say something about it.
He's like, I will take care of that, and I'm like, oh my god, I love it.
He's becoming a man.
Definitely, Isaac's becoming a man.
I love it.
Speaker 2And Isaac says something like I can smell the bullshit, like I know after dealing with Olivia, Like I this is a playbook that's happening, Like I know what's going on.
Speaker 1This is stupid.
Speaker 2And I was wondering, like, while he was expressing all of this, if that was what the fight was about, because I wonder if, like at the wedding, Isaac starts calling Veronica out on some bullshit and like maybe Micah like is drunkenly trying to defend her God, because he's still trying to work on their relationship for some reason, and maybe that's why they get in a fight.
Speaker 1Good call.
Speaker 2And then after Isaac beats his ass, maybe Mikeh's like, oh, yeah, I'm wrong.
Speaker 1That actually makes sense.
I was wondering, Well, when you think about the intervention scene that they show in the mid season trailer where everyone's sitting down with Veronica and telling her that she's a monster, redeemable.
Micah does not have a detached nose or any stitches.
So this is pre wedding that they have this intervention.
Yeah, and then they get to the wedding, and maybe Micah's on his bullshit in defense of Veronica, who's treated everybody terribly, and that is what prompts the fight.
Speaker 2That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1I can see it act because.
Speaker 2Isaac is like totally upset about how Mike is being treated.
He's upset that Veronica's talking shit to Amber, who is a minor.
He's like just frustrated about this whole situation, And like, Barry is annoying to me because I'm like, why don't you just be a dad, Like, why don't you like talk to Micah and ask him how he's doing.
Barry doesn't care.
Barry's just be bootbopping.
Speaker 1I think Barry cares.
I just don't think that Barry knows how to be a dad in that way.
Yeah, he's being a Disney dad and just kind of being available for when his kids approach him, as opposed to interjecting himself into some problematic situations, whether it's Lydia and this rushed marriage, or whether it's Micah was literally being abused by his partner.
Because he's hearing all of this, and it struck me as we were watching the four of them that they had already talked about this, like the family has been talking about Veronica.
But for whatever reason, Barry wanted to litigate this on camera, like he wanted to put it all out there so everybody understood what Veronica has been doing, because maybe maybe Barry does intend to confront it at some point.
It's trying to make a case as for why.
But it's clear to me that everybody has been talking about Veronica.
Speaker 2You know.
I could see that he was doing that to cover his butt because maybe they learned their lessons from Olivia, because they were kind of like keeping things under wraps when it came to Olivia.
Olivia was coming out with these stories and these accusations and stuff, and like Kim and Barry were just kind of keeping quiet to themselves, and like they would occasionally throw jabs to Olivia, but they weren't like calling it out because they were just trying to keep the peace.
But I could see this because in this scene, Barry's something to the effect of, like, well, I don't know why Veronica would think that we called her a liar.
I've never thought that she was a liar.
I've never even said that.
I like Veronica.
I think she's cool, So he's like doing damage control a little bit, and I could see why.
Like Veronica before the season aired, was on Reddit saying all this shit because she looks terrible in this season and it's not the editing, like, it's just her behavior.
Yes, And the Plaths are just like, what the fuck's going on with you though?
Right?
Speaker 1And the Plaths are gonna do what the Plaths know how to do, which is to rally around each other exactly and close in ranks.
And so Veronica, you don't have a chance, but you've got Amber upset.
You've got Ethan upset, Like Ethan's got your number, and now you're an enemy because you're talking to his ex wife, who he blames everything on I know, which is wrong.
Yeah, but like Ethan does not like you, and even Isaac is ready to like confront you about what you're doing to his brother because they've been through like this traumatic thing with Olivia, which is like I feel to me, they're making too much out of that because I feel like Olivia, you know Olivia, and I'm not gonna say it again, but Olivia was in process.
Olivia was a young woman.
Olivia had some things that she was working through.
But like she I think for the most part, she was doing the best that she could.
Veronica, on the other hand, is not.
Veronica is so deeply emotionally unregulated and does not seem interested in the least in trying to figure out how to curb her abusive tendencies.
Like she's proud of the fact that she interrupts Micah, She's proud of the fact that she's calling him a worm and a weak man, like she likes that aspect of herself.
I never saw that in Olivia.
And so when we get to the conversation in this scene where they're talking about how Teagan is such a great girlfriend and Kaylin is perfect in the family, I'm like, well, is that because these girls are just thoroughly submissive and doing their very best to not cause any waves, whereas Olivia was trying to assert her own power and figure out herself.
It was just like that was a little weird to me.
What did you think of them saying that?
Speaker 2I mean, I could totally see how it could be construed that way, because, like, especially with their like religious background and everything, like, there could be like an element of like these women need to just stay in their lane and shut up and just be submissive and feminine and like not speak their minds.
I could see that, But I could also see a point with when Micah and Ethan were talking about Olivia, Like Veronica's talking to a person who actively hates their family and like doesn't like them, hasn't liked them for many years.
She has gone on Facebook, not Facebook, but she's gone on Instagram and TikTok outing them and like posting secret recordings and stuff like that.
And like, again, there's like truth to some of this, I get it, but like they are coming from a perspective of they love their family.
They want people to love their family, and if you want to be married to me or you want to be in a relationship with me, you're gonna have to get along with my family.
Because I think Micah or no Isaac's the one that says families first.
I'm like, I wouldn't want to be with a woman who didn't like my family and didn't get along with me.
Speaker 1And likewise, I will respect and love her family exactly.
That's just my value, and that's a fair value, and I like that value.
But I just feel like they're in these characterizations, they're being too hard on Olivia because Veronica is not Olivia.
Like, Olivia is so much better in every way to me than Veronica, who I just feel like is such a trash person.
Yeah, just an awful, mean, terrible, verbally, violent, abusive person.
Olivia had her issues, and yeah, she was passive aggressive and sometimes aggressive aggressive, but she was never that that I saw.
Speaker 2No, she was definitely more covert, I think, And I to give Olivia credit, like she came from the same world as the Plaths and so like there was a lot of validity to some of the things that she was saying, and like she was I think projecting some of her family bullshit onto the Plaths, which I don't think they necessarily deserved, but she has every right to not like them.
Yeah, and she was the one that chose to leave and got out of it, and she's just like done, I'm gonna go swim in the fucking oceans of Croatia.
Speaker 1And that's the difference though, Like Olivia's not in the family, but Veronica, you purport to want to be a part of the family act or be with Micah.
If you want to be with Micah, then you've got to figure out how to heal the issue with the family, and yet the way not to do that is to talk to somebody who hates the family and is no longer in it by choice.
Speaker 2It doesn't make any sense exactly.
Yeah, and Ethan says something like, if you want to have friends, you need to be friendly, and he said that a couple times, and that's true.
It's like, Veronica, when you're coming out with this hard, nasty energy and you don't want to talk to anybody because they hurt your feelings or whatever, like, you're not gonna have any kind of resolution, and that's why you're gonna have your plath under and you're probably gonna cry.
I can't wait to see Anni do.
And then we move on to Mike and Veronica at their house in Boca, and we have more of like a continuation of their fight from last episode.
I guess they like took some time apart, probably slept in different houses or something to cool off, and so now they're going to talk again.
And Veronica wants us to know that she wants to talk to him in a healthy way, and she thinks that they have really good communication.
They just need to understand each other.
He needs to hear me and my big feelings because I'm coming to him with like honesty and I'm trying to I'm trying to healthily communicate.
It's Micah that's the problem.
Speaker 1Right, and he just doesn't know how to hold all of my feelings which I constantly regurgitate all over him violently.
And I thought that Micah was really insightful in his commentary about Veronica, like having these emotional explosions and just exploding all over him and anybody else until it was all gone inside of her and then she was able to kind of reset and go back to a peaceful space until she was angry again, and then she exploded.
And I felt personally like the body language in this scene was very meaningful and important, because again we have Micah shrinking away, leaning his whole body away from Veronica who's leaning into him.
And I'm just like, you look like an abused man.
You look like an abused person who is trying so hard to walk on eggshells within this conversation so you don't set this woman off again crazy.
And I feel for him because I think for Micah, he probably has been gas lit into thinking that he's the problem, and in many ways, he is, like, if he cheated, he's a cheater, that's dogshit.
You should not have done that.
He gave her an STD because he was a cheater.
That is absolutely awful.
Obviously, Isaac, other than cheating, has not verified a lot of the other things that Veronica has said.
But like, if you did that, that is bad.
That doesn't negate the fact that Veronica, you chose to stay with him, Yeah, and he chose to stay with you, and he doesn't know how to talk to you.
He doesn't feel safe even being around you.
In these extremely volatile conversations which you leverage.
I feel like she on purpose leverages these conversations and her emotions in order to intimidate him because she wants him to feel as small as possible, because that is how she felt when he cheated on her.
And it's just thoroughly toxic.
Throw the whole relationship away.
You guys do not need to be together.
And of course we know they break up, but like watching it right before the whole thing gets burnt down is painful.
It's painful for Micah.
I'm sure it's painful for Veronica.
But because she's acting so horribly, I have absolutely no sympathy for.
Speaker 2Her well, and like that's the thing.
It's like, obviously no one is justifying his cheating him allegedly giving her an STD, like nobody's justifying any of these actions on Micah.
But like Veronica, you can be mad about that, but you don't have a right to like abuse him.
You don't have a right to be so aggressive in your speech to call him a spineless worm, a weak little man.
You're choosing to forgive him and to work on things in your relationship, and if you actually wanted to do that, then you should reflect that in your actions and in your speech to him.
But no, you want to just make him feel like shit more than he already does.
Speaker 1You want to punish him, and you feel like you're entitled to have him sit there and take the punishment because he's the first one who hurt you.
Speaker 2And she like talks about like she tells him and she tells the cameras and stuff that she has a hard time regulating her emotions.
But at the same time, she doesn't want to bottle any of them up.
She doesn't want to keep any of them to herself, so she's just gonna spew it and basically Micah, You're just gonna have to deal with it.
You're gonna have to deal with me verbally abusing you, because that's just who I am.
I'm allowed, strong, outspoken woman, and I'm allowed to have these big feelings.
Yeah, exactly, that's what it is.
And she talks about like how she's always felt like her feelings are too much, and Olivia felt the same way.
So she's being treated the exact same as how Olivia was treated, and it's like, no, sometimes your emotions are too much.
People have irrational emotions.
Everybody experiences that, but we learn how to regulate, how to be emotionally mature, and learn how to express that in a healthy way.
Speaker 1And here she is again co opting Olivia's lived experience right in her marriage that lasted much longer than this punk cast relationship you have with Micah.
And then your weapon, your idea of Olivia's experience to use against Micah, Like you don't have a right to do that.
Speak from your own space, speak from your own feelings, your own experience, but don't continue to use her, you know, as some sort of stand in for the feelings that you have in order to legitimize them.
Yes, yeah, no, we don't do that.
That doesn't work.
It's not fair.
Speaker 2And like anytime Micah tries to express to her that like her emotions are hurtful because she is just spewing all of this hateful, awful, toxic shit to him constantly, she will say something like, well, yeah, like when I'm angry, I say some things that I probably shouldn't, but like I'm angry, so like I'm allowed to just express my anger.
Speaker 1You're not.
Speaker 2It's like you just justify your bullshit.
Like she cannot see that she is wrong and she's manipulative when she says, yeah, I say things that I probably shouldn't, but I'm gonna say it anyway, and you're just gonna have to deal with it because that's my fiefe's and you're gonna have to nalidate it.
Speaker 1And this is why we have her completely setting out online on Reddit and on Instagram, because I think she got dumped because she's an abuser and Micah finally got the strength to walk away.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1And here again, like you had a very valid message about Micah and the things that he did that were wrong, but like you've completely invalidated your argument and your position by behaving like a devil and a nightmare yep.
Speaker 2And then you want to use Instagram therapy speak to continue to belittle him, to try and justify your actions, and like I think she says something like I'm in fireflight around the plaths and he's like why, and she just doesn't have an answer.
It's like, you can't justify your irrational feelings, which means they're irrational and they're crazy and they are too much.
You are too much, m m, and maybe you should learn to tone it down a little bit.
I just can't.
I just I felt bad for Micah, and like I shouldn't feel bad for a guy who's a cheater and like allegedly gave her an STD, but I feel bad because of how you're acting towards him.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I mean, let me just be the problematic person on the podcast when I bring up the fact that he was living in la she was living in Florida.
I'm not sure what the terms of their relationship was.
I mean, maybe he was leading her on a little bit, and maybe she was.
She had stars in her eyes because it's Mica and he's beautiful.
But like it happened at the very beginning of the relationship when they weren't even in the same place together.
Then they got in the same place, and then he traveled for work to New York and otherwise.
Remember when he went to watch What Happens Live, Yeah, and he saw Andy Cohen and Andy Cohen was flirting with him on the show, and then he cheated when he was in New York.
And I'm just kind of wondering to myself, like, was it with Andy?
Oh my god, was it with Andy Cohen?
Anyway?
So, yeah, that's all bad, But it sounds like in the beginning of the relationship things were just a little bit murky maybe, but then once he moved in or once he made a formal commitment, things changed.
I'm not giving him a pass.
It's still not good.
And he was texting people, but I'm just like, I don't trust her.
She's not a reliable narrator.
And then when we get the preview of her, like not allowing Micah to even be in the presence of Teagan because of some OnlyFans stuff like, I'm just like, girl, you can't control everything.
I realize you're anxiously attached in your life, but you can't control other people.
The only thing you control is.
Speaker 2Yourself, yep, and you give yourself no credit when you are lying, like with the teak and stuff with the only fans, like girl, please shut up.
I just can't with her.
And then we shift gears and we go wedding dress shopping with Lydia.
Speaker 1We don't need to spend a ton of time on this, do we not?
Speaker 2Really?
I mean, the only thing that was interesting was like when Kim had Lydia try on her wedding dress.
Oh yeah, which Lydia looked beautiful in, I mean, just gorgeous in every dress that she tries on.
But I couldn't help.
But wonder if Kim was like feeling like, oh my God, like I can't believe my daughter is like getting married in the same kind of way that I did, door like Zach who probably won't be good at it, Like I wonder when she was wearing Kim's wedding dress, Kim was like seeing her life flash before her eyes and regretting it because you raised Lydia to be this way.
Speaker 1I wonder.
I mean, I think there are a lot of things Kim would like to say, but she probably feels she doesn't have the family credit to say yeah, because she's discredit her discredited herself with her behavior, with leaving Barry, with being a drunk, and with having an adulter this affair, So she can't really counsel Lydia on like what she needs to do in a relationship because she again has no credit, so kind I kind of felt for Kim a little bit, like she's just trying to be there for Lydia.
Lydia's gonna do this whether you approve of it or not, and so she's trying to be supportive.
But I do think there was a lot that she wanted to say.
And then of course we had Mariah being like two hours late, I know, which I thought was really strange.
And I think I mentioned a couple of episodes ago that I kind of sniff some substance abuse, and of course we've seen Mariah drinking in this season, and it just feels like there's something more.
I know, somebody in the comments of her YouTube was talking like opiates or like other substances like that, and I don't know, but I'm just like, how are you going to show up two hours late to like the sister that you're the closest to like she's gonna get married, like this special day, you're gonna be this late, and then you're gonna kind of shit on it all because you don't believe in marriage and you don't believe in wedding dresses and you don't like them.
I'm like, what has happened to Mariah?
Like I feel very concerned about her trajectory?
Speaker 2Me too in life, me too, And like maybe she's depressed because maybe mister potato head like did some bad shit to her.
I don't know what their relationship was like, but like the fact that you have Mariah in her like goth phase and she is depressed and she's like I hate love.
I don't believe in love.
I'm like, dude, you're like mentally broken right now.
I mean, I hope Montana's gonna be great for her, but like I'm worried, dude, I'm really worried.
And the only other thing that came out of this scene was Kim also expressing to the camera that this whole wedding is rushed and nobody feels like they know Zach or they can get to know him at all.
Kim doesn't feel like she knows him well enough Barry doesn't know him well enough, but Lydia probably doesn't know him well enough.
And I'm just like, yeah, Kim, well this is your parenting though, Like, this is a direct result of the indoctrination that you gave to all of your kids.
Luckily, some of the older ones pave their own way and realize all that shit was bullshit.
But Lydia was praying in a closet the whole time, and you thought that was great.
And now she's doing what you programmed her to.
Speaker 1Do, right, And I can just imagine how Kim feels like knowing the path that Lydia is taking, which is the same path that she took and how it didn't work out.
And I also think with Mariah, it's not just Potato Head and the relationships that she had that failed, but she also saw her parents, Yeah, and their twenty five year relationship just completely fall apart and the complete implosion of her family.
So yeah, she doesn't believe in weddings and marriages and symbols of love like that because she probably doesn't really have faith in love generally.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wouldn't blame her, yeah at all.
And speaking of Mariah, we have Amber, We have this like little scene, and it's when Mariah, I guess, is leaving for Montana.
She's leaving a month before Lydia's wedding because she just wants to get the fuck out of Dodge, and she's packing all of her shit, and we have Amber and her have like a little conversation.
Amber seems to kind of, in my opinion, be a little worried about Mariah, but like she's trying to advocate for her.
They talk a little bit about Veronica and how they're they've both shared some nasty experiences with her and they both don't like that bitch.
And Mariah's just like, yeah, I just want to leave.
Speaker 1I just want like a fresh star.
Speaker 2I'm gonna go to Montana with my many many many job interviews that I have lined up, but I don't have a job lined up.
I just have a place to stay.
And I'm just like, what do you mean I'm worried about her?
Dude?
Speaker 1Oh my god, if that was my daughter, I would be so scared for her.
And so like watching Barry just send her off with all this celebration and like not just like giving her some sort of a tracker or like putting some sort of tag on her car or like, I don't know, girl, Like you're just going to a place where you've never been before, to a culture that you've never experienced before.
And I can understand the sense of adventure.
And again I said this a couple episodes ago, like if I could have done that, gone to Montana as a young woman, so so fantastic.
But so I appreciate her wanting to do that, but I'm questioning why it's happening, and I'm just wondering, and I'm wondering if anybody else is also thinking this, Like is there a dude?
Speaker 2There?
Speaker 1Is she talking to somebody online?
Has she met a new person?
Because I see her pictures in Montana she looks really happy, but she's not taken those pictures.
Who is Yeah, is it a dude?
What's happening in your life?
For real?
And I see just Mariah going down this road of secrecy that we've seen the Browns go down and some of the Plaths go down, just like not telling the full truth.
But at the same time, maybe she can't because she's so mentally and emotionally troubled right now, like she's not connected to the inner workings of her own self, so she can't really talk about it.
But like, I'm just worried about her.
I'm really worried about her.
Speaker 2I'm really worried about her because I think that's when she loses all of her hair in Montana.
Yeah, because she's still in Montana.
I think, Yeah, I believe so the Internet and stuff.
So like you move to Montana for this new start and then all of your hair falls out and you have no family or any support system, and I wonder you may prick up a a point like what if she is there for a dude?
Ugh.
I just feel like she's going down this like terrible path because again, like her parents didn't prepare her for the real world and like didn't teach her how to find like a good person to be around.
So she's going after like unhealthy relationship after unhealthy relationship, and I worry about her mental state.
And again with Barry just like sending her off being all happy, go lucky.
This is why he's annoying me this season.
Yeah, because he's not like pushing back in a way a dad should.
You're not questioning Zach on anything.
You're actually wanting him to bang your daughter out and pop out baby her.
Yeah, and you don't even know this guy.
You're sending Mariah off to Montana where there's literally no support system for her at all, but you're like, have fun bye.
Yeah, you're not talking to Micah about him being abused by Ironica.
You're just like, Yeah, that sucks.
Then that's it.
It's just like Barry, you suck.
Sometimes it's so annoying.
Speaker 1He's just emotionally disconnected.
Yea and Amber told Veronica, I think in the last episode that they were a family of thinkers, and I really think that that originates with Barry, Like he doesn't.
I'm sure he feels something, but I just feel like he's not connected to those feelings.
And so this is his approximation of what a feeling person would do, like, Oh, I'm just going to support my daughter, like I'm going to show up in a way that that will appear supportive because he doesn't.
He doesn't have that innate knowledge of what a father should do and be in a feeling way, and that is what Mariah needs.
I don't know if she would accept it at this point, but that is literally what she needs, and what she doesn't have is a good example from a parent.
Speaker 2I agree.
And now she just going to Montana and I wish her the best, Like, I hope she has the best time there.
I hope she finds herself.
I hope she finds peace and finds you a cowboyhood, finds you a nice cowboy.
It treats you, right, That's all I want.
But I'm really worried about her, I really am.
And then the last scene is the cringiest scene of them all, where Barry, Kim, Zach, and Lydia all share a bunch of champagne and talk about fucking apparently why.
I just don't understand.
Speaker 1Why are we doing that?
Speaker 2Why?
Why this?
It's so cringey because Lydia just turned twenty one, and like I think this is probably like a couple weeks before their wedding because they get married in February, like just after her birthday.
So they're all sharing champagne.
And this is where Barry and Kim find it appropriate to like ask them, you know how to fuck though?
Speaker 1You know what fucking is?
You know men and women fuck men, fuck people?
Speaker 2Fuck?
You know what a penis is, Lydia.
Speaker 1You know you've got a vagina, right, you know.
Speaker 2That you're biologically hardwired and programmed and built.
Speaker 1And crack and crafted at this time in your life quickly crafted?
What was that biologically crafted to have children?
Speaker 2Now?
Stop?
Speaker 1It was like, are you talking about her fertility?
Speaker 2Though?
Speaker 1He feels like you're talking about her ability to opulate her fertility and it's giving weird.
And you're talking about her twenties being her like fertile time.
I'm just like, this is a time not what any young woman, much less her partner, wants to hear from her dad.
I know, talking about like the ideal circumstances to become impregnated.
Barry, what are you doing just because you want a grandkid?
Maybe baby rabies?
Speaker 2I mean, hey, look, you are always telling me where's my grandchildren?
And you're always asking if we're fucking who?
Speaker 1Don't like you're almost thirty, I.
Speaker 2Know, see here you are telling me about you brought it up.
Speaker 1You brought it up though.
Speaker 2I feel like Barry was kind of giving me like I think he was trying to be funny, but he doesn't know how to be because he's a literal robot and he doesn't understand how humans talk and act.
He's just being so weird.
And like in him and Kim's talking heads, he's like making sexual innuendos and jokes and stuff, and I just like, I can't.
But I was laughing about it though, because I think Kim says something like, you know, Lydia has to know that there's ways to prevent pregnancy, right, like maybe I'll have to have a talk with her, and Barry's like, yeah, you'll have to educate her orally, and then everybody laughs.
Speaker 1But I'm like, that's why are you laughing.
I'm like, that's like incestuous.
Speaker 2I I just can't, but they all bust up laughing.
I feel like Kim was the only one that felt awkward because I feel like Barry never pleasured her With.
Speaker 1Kim, right, I thought, well, you never know what those kind of guys sometimes they're magical at it.
But I just felt it was kind of funny watching Kim because she did not know what to say, She did not know what she could say, she didn't know what her standing with Barry was in order to say anything, so she just kind of stood there.
I was just like, I don't know what's happening right now, and Yarry was just being super goofy and everybody was laughing.
Speaker 2Well, and I'm just like wondering because at this point in time, like, I think Kim's the only one that's had sex outside of their marriage because she fucked Ken Palmer or something.
But like, I don't think Barry is out here fucking and sucking right now.
I think he's just keeping himse up.
Speaker 1But maybe maybe he is.
Speaker 2Maybe he's a lothario.
Speaker 1He's talking about wanting to find somebody who's fit and active and has a sense of humor, So maybe that means he's already on the tinder, like swiping left or right or whatever these kids do.
Well, Yeah, he's the man who's got me and stuff.
And I'm just wondering.
As I was watching Barry and Kim, I'm like, is there a world where you guys are just meeting up occasionally?
I want to bang it out?
Speaker 2I wondered that too.
I'm wondering if they're like hooking up.
Speaker 1I feel like Kim wouldn't mind, Oh she would love it.
I think Barry's like pass a Dina, pass a Diana.
Speaker 2Barry looks at her and her sugar body and he's like, nah, no way.
But Kim is probably looking at Barry all jacked and shit.
Speaker 1Well, she's seeing things differently.
Yeah, now that she don't have no buddy.
Now she's renting a home and she can't afford a lawyer.
She's putting it on credit cards.
Now Barry's starting to look better than he used.
Speaker 2To look, and Ken left her ask so what is she going to do?
Speaker 1Well, she's trying to make it work.
Speaker 2Yeah, I guess you're trying to get.
Speaker 1Back in with Barry, do you think.
I don't know.
I had a vision of, like next season, Barry going out on a date and the camera's following him and it's a date with Kim.
I actually had that in my mind, Like I wonder.
Speaker 2I would pass away because that would be so.
Speaker 1Crazy, it would be crazy.
I would love it that they just like get back together.
I mean they start dating.
Speaker 2I mean they're still spending a lot of their time together because they're trying to co parent and they're like doing family things together.
And I mean, honestly, like, I feel like there could have been a whirld where Kim could have avoided this whole midlife crisis.
Her and Barry could have talked some things out.
Maybe they could have gone to sex therapy or something, and they could have had a sexual renaissance maybe, or like a renaissance in their marriage, and it could have worked out because they had all these years together, they had all these children together.
And she ruined it.
Speaker 1She did, and then she stepped out and she saw that the grass was not always greener.
I had the same experience, what should we go uncensored?
Cons back from uncensored.
So maybe Kim thought the grass was going to be greener out there and that there were going to be guys that had it better than Burry.
But like, maybe nobody makes money like Barry.
Yeah, maybe nobody has the anatomy that Barry.
Maybe nobody eats the box like Barry does.
And so now you had to learn the hard way.
Kim.
Now you're trying to insert yourself back into the city, but you can't fit.
Speaker 2Can't.
Speaker 1No, you can't fit.
Speaker 2She especially can't.
Speaker 1You can't get back go through that, That's right.
Speaker 2She did.
Yeah, But I was just like this whole scene with Kim and Barry was just interesting.
Like I feel like Barry was more comfortable.
He was just being weird and goofy, and maybe he was drunk on champagne.
I don't fucking know he was being odd.
Kim felt awkward to me, and Kim did make a comment I don't know if you caught it to Lydia where she was just like, I just want to make sure that you know how to fuck or whatever, because I don't want people to think that they're watching that we just like raised all these kids to live inside this box.
And it just spoke to me that Kim is aware of the camera, she's aware of the criticism of how they raised their children, and she's trying to be like, no, but like we did prepare them though, like don't listen to Ethan when he said I didn't tell them about sex or anything.
Don't listen to Hoseanah while Hoseanah doesn't say nothing, but like, they'll listen to my other kids, like we did good.
Lydia, right, you know how sex works.
Speaker 1But it struck me that Lydia really didn't.
No, like Lydia does not know what to expect on her wedding night.
She understands I've got a vagina and he's got a pen.
The pen goes into the vagina.
But that's the extent of her sexual education.
And I'm worried about her.
Speaker 2I'm worried about her too, and Kim does say like something like I feel like a mom would say, just like you can talk to me though, like we can have girl time and if you like have any questions or issues or whatever, you can you can talk to me.
And I feel like Lydia was like, no, mom, you're a drunk, cheating adulterer, Like why would I talk to you.
I feel like Lydia just doesn't give a shit about what her mom has to say.
And it's unfortunate because it's Kim's fault.
But like, I worry about Lydia and her marriage to this nice man, Zach.
Speaker 1Well, And ironically, Kim could probably impart a lot of information yeah to Lydia, based on all the mistakes that she made in her life exactly.
But it's that divide between parent and child, and especially if you've blown it as a parent, exactly, you've lost.
Speaker 2All credibility with the child.
And now Lydia is going to have to figure it out on her own.
And like, luckily with Lydia, she has the Internet, so maybe she can google some stuff, maybe she can read some smut and realize, like, oh, this is what I'm missing maybe, but like when Barry starts pressuring them about kids and stuff, He's like, bring on the grand children.
I want babies, Like, let's go, you're biologically ready.
We have like this segment with Lydia and Zach, like I think, and they're talking head being like no, we're gonna wait, and Lyddya's like, well, but like I want to have kids though, and Zach's just like awkward, like he doesn't say anything, and I'm just like, I wonder what their sex life is, like, I don't know, I'm worried about it.
I'm just gonna say that I'm just worried about it.
Speaker 1Agreed.
Speaker 2And then we get to the preview and we have Lydia and Zach visiting Micah and Veronica why down in Boca, and Veronica makes a comment about like how she doesn't even want to go to the wedding and she hopes that they don't light any fires at the wedding.
Speaker 1I'm like, Okay, this is foreshadowing NonStop drama.
It's like constant, and it's Lydia's upcoming nuptials.
Can't you just be supported?
Speaker 2She can't because she's bitter.
And then we have Teagan, Caylin, Ethan, and Isaac doing like a double date or whatever.
And this is where like Ethan, I think, draws a little naked photo of Teagan.
And then we have like another scene where Micah apparently called Ethan to tell him that Veronica was starting some rumors about Teagan having an only fans, which pissed Ethan off.
Ethan hangs up the phone with Micah and then calls Teagan immediately.
And I think this is what causes a rift between Teagan and Veronica, because I don't think Teagan's out here show a hole on because I don't think she's.
Speaker 1I had no idea.
But then we have this scene in the preview with Veronica and Micah at a counselor or a therapy appointment, and Veronica is talking about how Micah went up online and started looking for nude photos of Teagan.
Yeah, so it almost kind of gives that there are existing nude photos of Teagan, which would be wild if she had an OnlyFans.
But like, also, sex work is real work.
She don't saying anything, but like, so now Veronica's telling Michael, well, you can never be in Tagan's presence again because you were looking at those nude photos and.
Speaker 2Yeah, and she's like you're gonna fuck her, like you can't be around her because you can't control God.
Yeah, And I think, like Micah, we will probably see the next episode like their scene and everything.
But I think Micah is trying to say, like, no, you don't understand the context, because maybe he was just like looking it up to see if Veronica's claims were true about the only fans, and then Veronica's like construing it.
I don't know, right, somebody's gotten OnlyFans.
Maybe I'm curious.
Now I'm gonna go look it up.
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We I am so glad we're watching it because it is really good.
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