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All Right, last time I'm going to ask you, did you have any takeaways after this very fantastic cap on the season of Beatrice.

This episode was so freaking good.

Yeah, I guess My only takeaway though, is like Kim at the end demanding Berry to buy her a bottle of wine and not a glass of wine.

I'm like, girl, that's not the look.

That you think it is.

I'm just kind of surprised that she wants everybody to know she definitely is an alcoholic.

Yeah.

It's a validation of all of the criticism that we have been leveling at you about being an intoxicated do you why?

Unfaithful?

Help?

Yeah?

And now you've confirmed it and she gets toasted.

Yeah, and like she's speaking to the and commenting about her meeting with Barry and like she's drunk.

Yeah, totally drunk.

Okay my takeaway, And this is gonna be controversial, so don't come at me, gros or Hose.

But I'm kind of like taking a shine a little bit to Kim.

I don't know.

I kind of like how she dealt with Veronica.

Oh yeah, Yeah.

I liked how she advocated for her kids.

I liked the scene with Ethan.

I personally, maybe it's me as a mom.

I like seeing her build back some of these relationships, even though the foundation of this is alcohol and cigars and violence and.

Sugar and sugar, a lot of sugar.

I just kind of liked to see that.

Yeah, And I even liked seeing her sit down with Barry and like working it all out.

I don't know, I just had a different feeling about her.

Yeah, you know what, I would agree.

I thought she was pretty based when she was handling Veronica too like and just telling her at the end we'll get there, but it was pretty great.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, okay, So with any further ado, let's get into Welcome to Plath.

They'll season seven, episode eleven and tattooed.

The Reckoning, Oh yeah, which I think is about Veronica.

Oh yeah, so good.

But before we get into all of that, we have just kind of a brief scene at the beginning with Lydia and Zach.

They're on their way to their European honeymoon.

They're going to go to Paris for a couple of days and then they're going to go to Germany on their mission trip or something I don't know, and do some Christian things.

But they're like in the car on the way to the airport or something, and Zach says something like, uh, yeah, now we can kiss, among other things, well like please, I don't want to.

I don't want to think about that, And then they have their little talking head with the producers, and the producers like, so how is the wedding night, And of course Lydia and Zach kind of skirt around the question, and Lendy's like it was.

Pure and beautiful, pure.

What does that mean?

That's an interesting Is that an adjective?

I don't know.

I don't know either, it's not an adverb.

Maybe it's not.

Whatever.

It's a very strange thing to say.

It kind of made me think they didn't fuck me too.

Maybe they hugged a lot.

And maybe they hugged naked and sang.

To Jesus about their love.

Yeah, but it was an odd statement to make.

I agree.

I thought it was very weird.

And Zach goes on a weird tangent where he says, there's a lot of beautiful soul ties and connections that you can create when you have sex with somebody, And I'm like, okay.

So did you create that?

Then?

Did you guys create your beautiful soul connection?

But wasn't he talking about making a soul connection with the environment?

Yeah, like it has to be in the right environment.

So I wonder if he was like, oh, the ViBe's off, Oh, like, oh, you.

Know, I don't know if I can I don't know if I can get hard.

For you.

Yeah.

It just felt really strange to me.

The whole thing's been strange throughout the entire season.

But like Lydia if you like.

It, that's cool.

I love that, And I hope you're happy goblins, you know.

And maybe it's just weird because they're like both virgins or something and they're a little awkward and don't know how to talk about it.

I don't know, Well, do you think they're like Christian fundamentalist virgin or do you think they're like Mormon virgin king.

No, I think they're Christian fundment Have they.

Been putting it in the boo boo?

Oh?

It doesn't count if I go in to booboo.

I feel like they're like Christian fundament like super like.

Oh, but I don't know.

You mean Ethan and Olivia when they were dating and stuff, they were doing a lot.

They were making out and touching each other and everything, so it seemed like it was more natural for Ethan's side.

I feel like Lydia would be more like, I want to see your bad day, and I feel like.

Zach's like, ew, why don't know, It's just a vibe.

Okay, it's just a vibe.

And then Lydia and Zach also say, and they're talking head that they are unaware of any drama that happened at their wedding because they thought their wedding was really beautiful and they had a really magical time and they were really happy to have all of their friends and family there.

So they are completely unaware at this point in time that the fight happened.

That we're having a real life Veronica intervention, which we pop on over back to the platform to finish up.

Yes, we do, And I want to start with a compliment to Veronica.

What shocking Why her hair is so pretty when it's not like just straightened, so straight and long, like, when there's a wave to it, and when she's caught off guard, there is a sense of vulnerability in her face, so she doesn't look as demonic as she normally does, and I just thought, oh, she looks pretty.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, this is not going to go your way, Veronica.

No, these people are pissed.

Oh they're leaning forward on the couch and they want to get in your face about your behavior.

And I'm all for it.

I love it, sat for it.

It's honestly great.

And you know, Teacan was actually trying to give her grace too during the intervention, which was kind of cool.

Like Teagan said, she really feels for Veronica.

In this moment because she is getting ganged up on with everybody just calling her out for her behavior, and Tiacan's like, you know, I don't condone any of her disrespectful, awful, vitriolic behavior, but at the same time, I do want to try and give her some grace because it must be hard to have this huge room of people just coming at you unexpectedly when she didn't think that this was going to happen whatsoever.

But we begin the intervention, we're kind of where we left off last week, where Mica is telling Veronica that she's disrespecting everybody in the family and he can't really tolerate this anymore, and she's not apologizing to anybody or taking any accountability.

We continue the conversation about the clickbait article that Veronica saw and then took as fact about.

She fabricated the entire thing.

I'm sure there was some weird article, maybe based on some rando Reddit post, but she did not believe that that was true.

She was spreading vindictive lies about Teagan for absolutely no reason.

Teagan was nothing but lovely to her.

The only thing Teagan did wrong was have a great rack and be pretty yeah, and be present.

Yep, that's a threat to.

Veronica in that way, because Veronica's insecure.

And Veronica tries to say this in the moment, but she's not taking any accountability for spreading this rumor about the only bands, Like she just thinks that it's fact.

She keeps saying, and she's like, well, it might have been clickbait, but like, I don't know, Like I could also be the mayor, Like you know, anything's possible in the world.

And it's like, girl, take accountability for the fact that you've spread this, but.

You literally can.

She's a broken person.

She is such a broken person.

And then we get to the part where Veronica tries to justify the whole clickbait OnlyFans article by saying she was worried about Teagan because Micah cheated on her, and so she was worried that Micah would cheat on her with Teagan.

And this is where people start exploding, and Ethan's like, are you kidding, Veronica?

You really think my brother would be that disrespectful to cheat on you with my girlfriend, Like that's insane, It's absolutely insane.

And Veronica, I really think, thinks that this is a justifiable excuse and it's not.

It's actually delusional and psycho.

And I understand like being insecure and nervous about your boyfriend cheating on you, because it's a very real thing to be scared about after such a betrayal.

So I get that.

But the way she's going about all of this and slutshaming Teagan from some weird clickbait article that she may or may have not seen, that doesn't even really she.

Might have been the one to submit that as a tip to whoever published that article.

I wouldn't be surprised.

It's just crazy.

And then you have Kim calling it out again, saying, like, you know, everybody else in the family gets along, You're the common denominator, You're the issue, and it just keeps escalating until there's a point where MICA's like, I can't do this anymore, you know what.

We're God, thank God, and he.

Breaks up with her in front of everybody.

And I do think that surprised her, Yeah, and you could see some moisture under her eyes a little bit.

I do think that she began to cry and she began to realize, oh, well, the control that I have over this man is slipping away, and also I'm being exposed.

And I do think this is why she went so hard before the season even dropped, because she knew how humiliated she was going to be in this scene in particular, Like I don't think she's even thinking to herself about how bad she looked at the engagement or how bad she looked, you know, down in Boca Ratan, the various fights that she didn't even register that.

But it was this moment I think that convinced Veronica to go on some sort of crazy social media vendetta.

But then again, they're showing those flashbacks to the very beginning of the season where she's talking about mixing the different elements and there's going to be a fire and calling Olivia, and so maybe this is also her plan.

I don't know.

All I know is something is deeply wrong with Veronica.

I think you can chalk ten percent of it up to her youth and just being like a little crazy like we all were in our twenties.

But like there's a big chunk that is a personality disorder of you.

Yeah, that's pathological in some way, and then there's another chunk that's trauma based and that this is a reactive thing that she's doing to sort of push people away because she feels so bad about herself and also rejected by what Mica did.

Like it's just so broken and ultimately sad, But that doesn't give you a right.

It is a reason, but it's not an excuse for you to be abusive to other people.

Yeah, it's not an excuse at all.

And she tries to talk about it like she does kind of in her own weird warped way, admit to the fact that she was just mixing chemicals and she was kind of concocting all of these like little stories and all of these lies and everything, But she doesn't get to the point of I shouldn't have done that.

She doesn't get to the point of that was wrong.

For me to do.

She kind of does at the very end when she's in her interstitial and she's like, well, I guess I shouldn't have done that, and what I want people to know is that I did love him, okay whatever.

Well, there's there was like a glimmer of maybe some self awareness where she's coming into the realization, but like everything she said that led up to that moment was unapologetic and demonic, So I just I don't know the status of Veronica right now.

I know that she was recently seen out with a guy.

I know she's quiet now on social media.

But I just hope that she gets some help because I was crazy in my twenties, truly.

I was.

Yeah, I feel like everybody is everybody's.

We're a little lucky, right, We're led out into the world and we go a little crazy.

But like, there's just another level to this behavior that is truly problematic, and it makes me wonder, like if there's anything that can be done for it.

I don't know it.

She's going to need some profound psychological intervention in my opinion.

Yeah, I mean, because it's the it's the fact that she feels the need to create so much drama in response to her own pain.

She wants to hurt other people, and she wants to cause all of this chaos so that way she feels better about the turmoil that she's feeling.

And that's like what's so pathological and crazy?

And like she's saying in this intervention, like you guys are really blaming me for Micah's nos, and everyone's like, yeah, because everything that you have done is led up to all of this tension in the family.

That's why we're trying to talk to you about it.

You're still not taking any accountability or any ownership.

And like, after Micah breaks up with her and everybody starts leaving the room, Veronica says some shit like you know, I guess they just think that I'm a liar.

I guess they just think that I'm such a bad person.

And Kim comes back in and it's like, no, like, I really tried to be nice to you.

I really tried.

To do everything in my power to make you feel welcomed, to make you feel part of the family, and you turned around and called me a snake.

Like that's not okay.

Veronica says something like I'm sorry for hurting you, and Kim's like, I appreciate the words, but I don't believe you.

And this is where even with Veronica's like a little bit of accountability in her talking, and I don't believe it either.

I think it's all part of her manipulation because she wants people to feel bad for her, and I don't.

I don't feel bad for her either.

I really liked when it came out in front of the entire family that she had been talking to Olivia because Ethan didn't know about that, or did Ethan know about that?

No, Ethan did know about it about it, but like Kim did not know about that, and I don't know that Isaac knew about that, and so like everybody just kind of erupted, like what are you doing?

And she's like, yeah, I think Olivia's a great person.

I really like her a lot.

I'm just like, oh God, you are showing your ass so badly in this moment.

And then, of course, as we discussed in our last episode, Olivia has since come out and you know, disavowed Veronica and said she doesn't align herself with people who are bullies, and so that's just a further shame from Veronica.

And I wonder how she's feeling in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five in the month of October, because I would be feeling pretty badly if I were her.

I don't think she feels bad at all.

I think she genuinely thinks like all of the plaths are eve and they're terrible, and what she did was fine, and she loved Micah.

She did everything in her power to make everything work, and it was him and his family that.

Were so toxic.

Like that's how I think she frames it.

I think that means she's a psychopath, yeah, and or a sociopath.

Let me ask you this question, do you think that, irrespective of how repugnant Veronica behaved in this season, do you think that she was also what made this season so good and what kept us interested?

Because I thought about that, like, next season, when y'all come back, and hopefully you do, and I don't know about the ratings, hopefully they've been good, what are you going to do?

What are you going to talk about?

There's not going to be in Olivia that we can blame.

There's not going to be a Veronica that we can like reflect back on and blame.

Yeah, I honestly think that their drama was what made it because even last season, we had some drama with Ethan and Olivia, but a lot of it was just centered around her and her chest hair boyfriend and oh god, living her best life.

And I'm like, I am so bored.

I don't want to see this.

I'm sorry.

I don't know what next season's going to look like without these two.

But I mean, I think Teagan and Ethan are broken up now, so maybe we'll get into some drama there.

I wonder if they had a bad breakup, because she's not following Ethan anymore on Instagram, which is a little weird because if they had an amical breakup, like maybe they could still be friends.

I don't know, So maybe we'll get some drama still with that.

It would be interesting to follow Kim around with her dating and stuff, because I feel like that's going to be drama malicious a little, but it's not going to be as good as the toxicity from this season.

Yeah, it was really really poisonous.

Yeah with Veronica, and also it really served to cast the Ploths in a better light a little bit, and for a lot of the audience, like they hate the Ploths and there's just no redeeming the Ploths, but like having Veronica be even worse than the Plaths kind of helped us to love Micah a little bit and well, sorry for Mariah a little bit.

The only one I don't feel anything for is Ethan.

I just think he's an absolute He's an asshole, trash person.

Yeah, he's definitely become a bitter tight pants wearing man.

I can't do it.

And so after Micah breaks up with Veronica and everyone starts to leave, then Micah offers to take her home back to Boca, and the family's like, I don't think you should drive down with her by yourself, Like we want to be with you.

Somebody's got to be with you, just so you don't get manipulated by her, because the family all recognizes how toxic and how manipulative Veronica has been, especially to Micah.

And then it ends up the producers taking Veronica back to her hotel, and then she gets escorted to the airport or something and flies home to Boca.

And then Micah, Ethan and Isaac drive down to Boca, and then Micah, according to the producer edit here, Micah, escorted by a police officer, goes to their house, grabs all of a shit, and leaves, and then allegedly they have not spoken since that day.

And this is just so rich to me because we're getting what I assumed to be the truth on the show.

Prior to this season airing, Veronica was on the reddits saying that Micah, Ethan and Isaac tried to break into her house and she had this security footage.

The camera footage showing that they were going to her house and she was afraid for her life because these boys were trying to break in.

They were trying to get Micah's shit.

Mm hmm, just another lie.

And I don't understand why she felt like she could do that.

Yeah, didn't you know that this was filmed?

And it really just goes to show do not antagonize the producers, because she was antagonizing the producers before the season even dropped.

She was getting in their ass about I think, featuring their home or her home and not like changing the color or like not using a sub home so that people couldn't find out where she lived.

She said that production had put her at risk therefore, and like she was getting death threats and all sorts of things.

And I do know that after season one, during season when Veronica was getting a lot of hate on social media and people were saying some terrible things.

But she really came after production, Yeah, got in their ass, started to embarrass them, Like, if you were going to do that, you should have waited until the season was over, because I really think production after she did that, went back through the footage and then made sure to show all of the incidents and maybe not all, maybe there's even more, but all of the incidents in Veronica's worst light, so that we understood exactly who she was.

I really wonder what the picture of her would have been if she would have just stayed quiet at the beginning of the season and let it play out and then she said something after.

I feel like she would have had more people supporting her.

She could have spun the story in a better light for her if she wanted.

She could have blamed it on editing, if she just waited until the end.

But no, like you had to spew all of this bullshit at the beginning of the season, Like all of it was pretty much lies, except for the fact that like Micah cheated on her, and like maybe the STD stuff and the miscarriage, Like I don't want to say that was a lie, but I don't fucking know.

Yeah, but like you shouldn't also be talking about somebody else's STD.

Although I guess she said she got CHMMYDIA.

I don't know.

I don't even care, like Veronica, that's the problem with lying liars who lie.

We don't know what we can trust that you say, So I don't trust any of it.

YEP, I don't trust it at all.

And so after the boys come back from Boco with all of Micah's stuff, we're back at the plais family farm and Micah recounts the incident when he was in the garage and like packing up the rest of his shit and he just completely broke down.

Veronica also broke down and was saying some shit like just tell me you never loved me, and Mike's like, I can't say that, because I did love you.

I loved you more than anybody I've ever.

Loved prior to you.

Like I just can't do this anymore, Like we're not good for each other, and Micah says something about his therapist telling him maybe Veronica was sent to you by God to teach you that maybe you actually do want to settle down and you do want to have a long term relationship and you should take your relationships with women seriously instead of just sleeping around and fucking around.

And Micah again expresses guilt and regret for cheating on Veronica and he wishes he never did that and he knows that that was completely wrong and he doesn't want to do that in a future relationship ever again.

And I kind of felt bad for him here.

I think he was being authentic.

I think so too.

I think that he definitely felt remorse, and I hope that he learned a lesson that that's just not the kind of thing that you do.

He moves all of his stuff back up to presumably live with Barry in the big House.

He's going to take over Isaac's room and such.

But then he also said and then after about a week or so, I'm going to go back down to Boca and do fencing.

Yeah, which is weird.

So I think he's maybe got some contracts or something that he's going to have to complete in Florida.

But it just really got me in my feelings because and I've said this season after season, and you're going to hear Mamadilia say it again, but I have a problem with the fact that Kim and Barry never equipped their children with an education or a trade.

I mean, he does fences, so he knows how, but I mean, I'm sure he's self taught.

I don't think he's been in some sort of a program to acquire a trade, but like he's just trying to find work where he can, and that feels really bad to me because there you are, Barry.

We see you in this episode sitting at your desk working from home.

Apparently you make a lot of money.

What did Kim say this season?

He makes like ten times more in his job than everybody else, and so he's making a lot of money.

He set himself up with that education for a great future.

Kim, you went to university.

You didn't graduate, but you went to university too.

But like you didn't help to equip your children emotionally so they could select good relationships for themselves, that were healthy and that would progress in a good way.

And you also didn't set them up with an education or a plan for their life.

And so now we've got Micah who has allowed himself to be abused by this woman for I don't know how long, and now he doesn't really have any prospects for himself.

He's gonna go back to kro and what farm?

I mean, Yeah, what are you gonna do, Barry?

You're you gonna let him have the farm?

You're gonna what are we gonna do for this kid?

That's my thing.

Same thing with Mariah.

It's like Mariah's getting her heartbroken over mister potato head, and then dying her hair black, and then getting these awful tattoos, and then moving to Montana because she wants to run away from all of her problems.

Lydia got married to the first guy she's ever dated after four months doing Christian mission trips and everything, like all of these kids kids are kind of lost, like trying to figure out adulthood and trying to do things on their own.

And then, on top of it all, after Kim educating them as poorly as she did, then Kim leaves, their father breaks up their family for Ken Palmer gets drunk and gets a dui like it's crazy.

Yeah, it is.

It's really fucked up.

Yeah, and I know that some of the behavior of the older kids has been bad, and that's just objectively true.

But at the same time, you have to always take it back to the way that they were raised, you know.

And after Kim splits, then we've got Lydia who's now the proxy mom, right, and she's never been a mom.

No, she didn't sign up to be a teenager, so we're completely parentifying her.

And so yeah, the first boy that she meets when she's on some Waco mission trip to Colorado.

She's gonna be like, can I hitch my wagon to you so you can get me the fuck out of the situation?

Yep.

And now here we are in this weird marriage and maybe it's gonna work, and God bless, I hope it does.

But I mean, statistically, it doesn't look great, and also with my eyes, it doesn't look great, and so I worry for Lydia.

I actually feel the most hopeful for Amber, Cassie too, and Mercy because they're going to grow up as children in a broken family see how that works, yep, and educate themselves.

Lustie definitely, yeah, I agree completely.

But while we're back at the Platt family farm and we're talking about Veronica and Micah getting all of his shit and moving out, then they start doing a controlled burn on the farm, which we've been seeing this preview kind of like all season, and I'm just wondering if, like this was other shit that Veronica was trying to blame, Like was this what you thought was a hate crime or whatever, like them just doing a controlled burn on their own farm, because Micah even says like it looks pretty crazy and dramatic and looks like something went wrong there.

Was a disaster here, but it's it's necessary to control the farm, really, And we have Barry in his house mentioning how they have become aware after the breakup with Micah and Veronica that Veronica has been online and saying a bunch of shit about them.

So I'm wondering if this is like when she started her campaign or it.

Feels to me like it's aprilish, April and may.

I think Lydia got married in October or November, February, yeah, god, my timeline.

So yeah, I think this is like April or May.

This is when Veronica is starting to appear on ruddit and say all the stupid shit that she's been saying.

Yeah, so, and the family has become aware of that, and I think we have Micah and Ethan saying something like we just don't want to entertain any of that, and like whatever she's saying is just a bunch of bullshit.

And Barry even says that too.

Barry says, I never really called her a liar.

I thought she embellished things, but now she's proven herself.

To be a liar, which she's gonna love.

Oh, she's definitely gonna love it's just gonna add more fuel to her fire.

Yeah, And that was.

Kind of the whole point of filming the controlled burn on the farm was to symbolize the fact that Veronica's just been burning every bridge, burning everything around her, like pouring lighter fluid on everything and just creating such a disaster.

Then we have Kim and Ethan I think it's like a month or so later, smoking cigars out on the Plath one of the homes, not the Plath Farm, but one of the homes, and Kim's never smoked a cigar before, so of course Ethan has to teach her.

It's just the tip put making a lot of sex jokes here with the mom and I'm like, please stop right.

I know we make sex jokes on time all.

The time, but like, yeah, I don't want to I don't want to envision that with Kim in particular or Ethan really Nope, neither of them actually.

Yeah.

And then we have Lydia and Zach facetiming Kim and Ethan from Europe from Yes, and this is where Ethan makes a bunch of other sex jokes to Zach and tells him to fill Lydia's croissants with cream.

I can't like.

I just you have to superimpose yourself into a situation like that.

You know, I have a brother.

I have an older brother, and he would never like and we joke around.

We're very body together.

We have a lot of fun, always have.

But like I could never catch him saying something like make sure your husband puts the cream in the croissants, Like that's wild.

And also it's on television and I don't want to hear about that.

I wonder if he was trying to do that to make light of everything and try to, I don't know, be kind of like a brother to Zach after being such a shitty piece of shit this whole season talking about how Zach's gay and how he doesn't like him.

He that part.

I think he's trying to de escalate the homophobia or the perception of the homophobia that he understands people are going to be having of him.

Yeah, and so now he's trying to say, well, they were kissing, and are you guys fucking because he's trying to pretend that he's not a complete, raging, inappropriate homophobe.

It's never appropriate to be a homophobe, No, of course.

Not at all.

And it's like I think Ethan thought he was coming off like he was being funny with his homophobic jokes and stuff, because because he portrays himself in a way that's like, ha, you're pressing up against each other, and like he's all of a sudden fine with them being married now that Lydia has made this choice, and it's like, no, dude, Like, watch the footage of how you were acting.

You were being a total asshole, and you were being aggressive, and you were being accusatory, and you were being homophobic, and now you want to play like it's all fun and games and you were just joking and joshing around, and now you're gonna joke about Zach filling up your sister's croissants.

Like please stop, yeah, please, I'm not buying it, Ethan.

And like, while they're on the FaceTime call with Lydia and Zach, this is where Kim finds it appropriate it to say, oh, yeah, did you know no, actually it was Ethan.

Hey did you know that Isaac beat Micah's ass at your guys's wet or on your rocky.

Shit to the core sent that boy to the e R?

Like did you know that that happened after you guys left, And also Micah and Veronica broke up, like maybe don't say that.

Or wait until they come home.

Yeah, let them have their nice honeymoon them enjoy it.

They're in Paris, for God's sakes.

But no, we're just gonna bring it up.

And you can see the look on Lydia and Zach's face like, oh man, like what a damper, and Lyddy's like, oh, I guess I gotta call Micah, I gotta talk to him.

And obviously, like Lydia and Zach are innocent in all of this, Like they didn't deserve to have all of this drama happen on their wedding night and have all of this shit be filmed as well, Like it kind of sucks that their special day is kind of clouded with all of this toxicity.

But I just feel like they could have waited instead of saying it.

I'm FaceTime, but what do I know?

And then after they get off FaceTime, ethan A paulizes to Kim for you know, believing Olivia and all of her bullshit and like letting that ruin his relationships with the family and his relationships with her, and this kind of opens up a conversation about Ethan and Olivia's divorce.

Ethan says again that he hired an attorney to deal with the divorce paperwork because apparently when they signed it back in Minnesota last season and they filled it, they turned it into the court, it was rejected because it wasn't filled out properly, and then Olivia wasn't answering any of his called or texts.

He hires an attorney, and then according to Ethan, Olivia also wasn't responding to his attorney and refusing to sign papers, and then this leads into their meetup.

But before we get there, we just have to acknowledge that it does seem like it was Ethan's mistake on the paperwork, like he didn't fill it in appropriately for some reason submitted it and so the court rejected it according to Olivia, and also Olivia says this episode, and we'll get there, but basically Ethan blocked her after that submit the paperwork and then blocked her so she couldn't contact him.

She didn't know what was up with him, and so the minute he wanted to talk with her about the divorce, because of Teagan then he expected her to just jump to and do what he wanted.

And so I just feel like Ethan really didn't go over his part in that, I don't know whereas he should have.

You don't you don't believe that.

I don't know.

I think it was messed up on both their parts.

I could I could see it as them being really young and not really knowing like how to fill out the paperwork properly, and it was like an honest mistake.

But I feel like when it was rejected in the court, then there wasn't any kind of urgency on either side to try and fix it, and then they have to resubmit everything.

I don't know.

We get to see Ethan sabotaging the paperwork because at the time he did not want that divorce and I think he was still in love with Early VI or he signed it, but I mean, maybe he didn't sign his whole name, or maybe the date was rough.

I could see Ethan sabotaging That's just what I'm going to put out there, and it's my opinion and I'm entitled to a b.

I could see Olivia sabotaging it too.

I could see them both being.

I think that's what she's doing now.

Yeah, but we'll get there.

So when we get to the actual meetup, Olivia decides, I guess she's there in Georgia for a wedding.

Ethan contacted her.

He wanted to have a discussion about their paperwork or whatever, and so she agreed to meet him, but only in public at some like hotel, restaurant or something.

So she arrives at three pm or four pm, because that's when they said they were going to meet up, and she's waiting for him, and we have a little bit of an interstitial with her where she blames Ethan for not filling out the paperwork correctly.

She says that was the reason why they're not legally divorced.

And then she says, according to Olivia, Ethan made her wait a year and a half to refill out the paperwork or something, so she decided to make him wait as a petty response back because he made her wait for so long.

She was obviously traveling and doing her photo shoots across the world and living it up with Brendan and his chest hair.

Apparently they've moved in together as well.

In Washington, DC.

They got a town home together Okay, I don't care.

He's a dog walker, remember, yes, so she's paying for everything.

She definitely is, but she's made him wait a little bit.

And then she does say that Ethan had had her blocked on everything up until this point where he unblocked her and wanted to meet up.

So she arrives at the little Courtyard and waits for him at four pm like he said that they would meet up, and then he ends up showing up two fucking hours late, which is crazy, and Olivia's like, this is just typical Ethan Plaid.

Would you have waited for two hours?

No?

So let's just pause right there, Olivia, Why are you waiting around for two hours?

What is the reason for that?

I mean I have some ideas, maybe that you wanted to film the scene, maybe you want to be on the show.

And she has a necklace that's a big P.

Has anybody seen her necklace?

It's a big no id P?

For what is it?

Plath?

I mean, you're still using that name?

How come you still associated with that name?

And you have every right to because that's your that was your legal name and you can retain it.

But why do you want to if this family is so despicable to you.

It's just a bit of a mystery.

So why are you hanging out for two hours waiting on Ethan's dumbass?

That's the thing.

And like Ethan, why aren't you just like saying, Hey, I can't meet at four pm because I've got X y Z going on.

I'm going to be late.

Maybe we can reschedule it to a different day or something.

No, Like, he's not courteous either.

It's a power move.

He wants to dominate the conversation from the jump.

And so when he finally does show up two hours late and his tight jeans.

High, honey, I can't take it up to his nipples, My god, maternity, do you.

Think that that makes your package look bigger?

Because actually it looks like you're wearing a diaper.

You know, it's really unappealing.

I don't understand.

Do you find that attractive when you see a big bulge?

Though?

As a straight woman, do you think?

Well?

I don't know, like straight women and I can't speak for all of them, but like I, I mean, dicks aren't attractive necessarily.

They're not necessarily, so I.

Don't want to envision a big old sausage and a couple of that's not sexy to me, but it does spontaneously produce a train of thought about like, Okay, well yeah, that's kind of a nice sized bulge.

And so I wonder like if he's packing, and then you start to just envision yourself, you know, doing some things with that.

But like I'm not envisioning a dick or anything like that.

I'm wondering like, oh, that might feel good or something.

I don't know, but like I'm never me, like I'm married, I never package.

That's so funny because just last night I was up on ig you know, I was putting up all those stupid reels on my stories, and I came across an account of only guys in Wranglers dancing.

Stoss, Like, did you follow it?

Almost?

I almost post it because I know how much you love when I post thirst stress.

I was just like I was watching for a little bit of time.

I thought it was wow.

It was very captivating and compelling, that's all.

But Ethan, no, absolutely not captivating nor are compelling.

Way too tight of jeans diaper like literally, baby, I literally can't.

And so Ethan finally arrives in is tight jeans two hours late.

Olivia is obviously not happy by this, and.

It's beautiful though.

She looks ethereal like in that white dress and her beautiful blue eyes with the red hair.

I'm like, oh girl, Stonning, Yes, Stonning.

She really is.

Like every time I see her, I'm like, you bitch, You're so gorgeous.

It's ridiculous.

But when Ethan arrives, he sits down and he's like, Hi, how you doing.

Okay, I've got two things I gotta say to you.

I'm like, damn.

People were calling him out, saying that he was really aggressive in this meeting, and people were like, oh my god, I'm so scared.

Like I'm so scared of Ethan.

I'm like, calmed down, everybody.

You guys need to calm down.

I don't think he was coming off aggressive.

I think he was just trying to stand on business and he didn't want to fight or deal with any of her bullshit, and he just wanted to get this shit done.

So he comes up, he says, look, when can we finalize everything?

Like I want this divorce to be done, I want everything to be signed.

I want to be.

Rid of your bitch ass, and she goes, well, we can do it now.

And he's like, okay, do you have all the paperwork and everything, like, cause I'm I'm ready to do it now.

And of course.

Olivia is like, well, but like do you have the original paperwork?

Because I of course don't have anything.

And Ethan's like, the original paperwork is like shredded at this point because it's been too long, like the courts are done, they've closed that we have to reach.

Okay, Ethan, well, if you wanted to have a meeting where you get her to sign the papers, well, then bring the papers with you.

Don't expect her to facilitate the entire thing, you dope.

Well, also, if you have an attorney, have your attorney handle everything?

Why is your attorney not there?

You know what I mean?

Yes, it's just like this whole thing is stupid.

And Ethan says, well, you need to respond to my attorney then, like, if we're gonna do this, like I have an attorney, I've hired him, just fucking respond to it.

My attorney will take care of everything in two weeks.

And she's like, well, I'm not paying anything.

He's like, I know, I'm not asking you to, I just want you to sign the fucking paperwork and be done with all of this shit.

And then this is where we have an interesting interstitial from Ethan where he says, when they originally signed the paperwork back in Minnesota, Olivia conveniently skipped the part of the divorce paperwork where it was about her personal finances, and according to Ethan, that's why he thinks that the paperwork was rejected from the court because she didn't fill any of that out.

And I feel like that's probably true.

Listen, I missed that whole thing.

I was having a cocktail at the time, and I had read like three hundred chapters from Christine Brown Woolly's Sister Wife book, and I was absolutely in a catatonic state.

I don't remember that.

Did he elaborate on what financial information she failed to divult It was.

About her personal finances, So I don't know, you've dealt with divorced stuff.

I don't know what they do.

Don't you have to fill out like your personal finances, like your accounts and stuff like that, Like, don't they have to know?

I would imagine, But like, my second divorce was handled with a mediator, and oh it was yeah, it was very it was pretty amicable considering my first divorce.

Also, it was just him and I going to so attorney and we both agreed with fought some paperwork.

I've never been through a long, like protracted, litigated, contentious divorce Teddy one.

Yeah, and so I never had to submit shit like that.

So I don't know.

See when my parents got divorced, I was a teenager, but I remember my mom complaining about stuff like that because my dad was also struggling with filling out his financial part of everything.

And it wasn't like they were fighting about like who got what.

We were poor, so it wasn't like we had a lot to like divide up or had a lot of assets or.

Anything like that.

But I remember my mom bitching about my dad not filling out the paperwork properly because it was about finances because his weren't that great.

But neither were my moms.

And so when Ethan said that about Olivia's I was like, hmm, that is kind of interesting.

I wonder why she wouldn't have filled that out.

And I think we were talking was it last week about her finances and wondering like how can she afford to go internationally to all these places?

And like she can't be making that much money, Like she is a very talented photography it's TikTok.

I mean, I think she is that revenue a influencer of sesce on TikTok.

I don't know how much money you can make doing something like that.

But if I didn't disclose my finances, it would be because I wouldn't want him to know.

I would be worried he would divulge that to other people, or I wanted to pretend that I was making less or more than I was.

Right, That's what I'm thinking too, And like I can understand if she doesn't want Ethan to know about her finances.

I get that.

Like I'm not saying she has to have Ethan know all of this shit, but if that, if we are to believe Ethan's rationale here, that that was the reason why their paperwork was rejected was because of Olivia, and then Olivia wants to blame it all on Ethan.

I'm like, there, something is awry here, there's truth in the middle somewhere.

I'm leaning towards Olivia didn't fill out something properly, and she wants to blame Ethan because she thinks Ethan stupid.

And if that's the case, like, if we go with that, I think the she wouldn't be motivated to conclude this divorce is because she wants to stay connected to this show.

Yes, the reason she's wearing a pee as a necklace.

There's a reason that she's waiting for two hours when I wouldn't wait for fifteen minutes for anybody.

There's a reason that she's still willing to film even though she knows at this point that she hasn't filed filmed anything except with Veronica.

But she's willing to take the scraps because she wants the clout, the fame, or the check.

And that's like my thing is if, like Olivia has been saying ever since they got divorced, like the plaths are terrible, they're abusive, they're toxic, they're all of these things, right, And Ethan was such an abusive, terrible person, why wouldn't you want to get divorced from that person as fast as possible.

Yeah, she's spinning it in like blaming Ethan, and Ethan's the one that doesn't want to get divorced, Like, okay, maybe at the very beginning, like maybe when they initially separated.

I could see Ethan dragging it out, and he did.

He did admit to it, but then he signed the paperwork on camera in Middle Minnesota, like he was ready to be done with everything, and then it didn't get done.

She dragged it out as well, because she doesn't admit to that.

She's like, well, when you contacted me to fill out the paperwork, like I was overseas and like you were being really pushy and I was just not about it, Like I just want some niceties and I want you to be polite.

I want to control the situation.

But Ethan wanted to control the situation, which is why he made her wait for two whole hours and then like he's gonna cut this meeting short too, but like, I will let you get to that.

That was so good.

It is good.

When she's telling him that, like, you know, you contacted me when I was overseas and like you made me wait, so like yeah, I'm gonna make you wait a little bit.

Okay.

Then you're admitting to being petetty.

Like being petty and pinito, Oh my god.

What it like?

Pick a lane?

Do you want to be petty and stay legally married to this guy that you claim is so abusive and awful and terrible, and like, look, that all might be fucking true.

I'm not.

I'm not confirming or denying any of that.

It's just if you're saying all of that, why don't you want to be rid of them?

Mm hmmm, why don't you want to be legally single?

Guys, let's ask you the question, why do you think Olivia wouldn't want to expedite the finalization of this divorce?

Drop in the comments and or write us on Instagram?

You know Beatrice loves those dms.

Let us know.

I've seen some people say like, oh, I would totally be petty too, and I'm like, I don't know.

I'm not that kind of a person.

Like if I was in such a terrible offul relationship and I wanted to be out of it, I would have done everything in my power to be done with it as quickly and as smoothly as possible.

It's just so I could fully block that person and be like douceing and move on with my life, move on with my life.

Like I just don't understand.

And so Ethan's like, look, I'm not trying to argue with you about the details of our divorce, like, can you just fucking sign the paperwork so we can be done, And Olivia makes a comment in her enter She'll like, well, you know, he was dragging his feet for a year and a half, if we're to believe that story, And so I'm not gonna like drop on my hands and knees and do whatever he wants just because he wants the timeline, because I noticed that once he started rushing it, like he posted his new girlfriend on his Instagram.

And there it is, and there it is.

I'm like, why do you care?

Why do you care?

I thought she's pretty?

Because he's moving on, because he's not obsessed with you anymore, because he's not.

Just a depressed person like losing you.

I'm sorry, but he deserves to move on too, Like I don't know.

This whole thing kind of made me annoyed.

And then Ethan's like, okay, whatever, divorce, fine, Okay, let's just get this shit done.

I'll have my attorney contact you whatever.

My second thing that I came to talk to you about is stop slandering my family in public?

Will you?

Will you please stop slandering my family in public?

And Olivia's like no, and Olivia says and I agree with her.

Olivia says, no, that's my lived experience.

I had my own personal experiences with your family.

These are my stories to tell, and I have every right to be able to tell them.

So no, I'm not going to do that for you.

And I think Eth encounters with well, I mean, and now I'm just going to sort of paraphrase, but I think what he's saying is you can have your story and you can have your experience, but you don't need to slander and make up shit against my family because that's not fair.

And furthermore, you don't see me out in these streets, Olivia, talking about your family's business or talking about you or slandering you, which I took in the moment not as a threat, but kind of like, well, let me just point bring it to your attention that I could be doing this to you, and maybe I will do this to you if you don't stop doing this to me.

Maybe I have recordings of you being a crazy person.

Maybe I have receipts that I could be sharing, but I haven't been because I just want to move on.

And in that moment when the camera pans back to Olivia, her eyes kind of widen.

I think she receives and gets that, and I thought that was like perfect.

I think so too.

I think she kind of spun it as like that was a threat from Ethan, But it's like no, that's the point though, Like, and I feel like there's a very fine line where you can talk about your experiences with the Plat family.

I think I do agree with you, and I agree with Olivia that yes, this is your life, you were married to this guy.

You should be allowed to talk about your previous marriage and talk about your feelings with them.

And she even makes a good point in her little interestitial where she says they feel free to talk about me behind my back and everything, like why can I talk about them?

And I think that's all fair and valid.

But the problem here lies with a difference of perspective because according to Olivia, it's not slander because it's her truth, but according to Ethan, it is slander because it isn't truth to him, Like he's like I remember these things differently, and that's like the problem with the human experience, Like we all can experience things very differently from one another based off of our own pasts and our own like belief systems and our own triggers and our own perspectives whatever.

So there's always gonna be like a little bit of a difference of opinion.

But I do think that Ethan is right and saying like, look like I don't talk shit about your family, though, like I really don't say anything.

Sounds like I could, and he probably can.

He probably has some dirt on her and her family and the shit that they went through, and he doesn't say any of it.

But she's bringing up past experiences that involve Ethan, and she has done this multiple times, where she's talked about like the credit card scandal and all of these things that the family didn't want out in the open, and she brings it out in a very specific light, so people view the story in a very specific way, and that's what Ethan has an issue with.

And of course Livy's like, no, I'm going to keep talking about my truth.

It's not slander because it's the truth.

And this is where Ethan's like, Okay, gets up and says, all right, well, I've done all that I could do.

I asked you nicely, like what I would like, and that's it.

And you can do what you want, so have a nice life.

Bye fucking boss Moves, because you could just feel that Olivia wanted to sit there and litigate their entire relationship.

She was relishing the opportunity to present herself as Saint Olivia once again and spin this on Ethan.

But he walked in knowing he wasn't going to allow her to do that, and he walked out having not allowed her to do that.

And I think he felt really smug because again he started it off with disrespect by showing up two hours late.

And I'm not saying that's right.

I think it's first.

Think it's bad.

I think it's wrong, and if you want to resolve things, this is not the way you want to go about it.

But I do think it was boss moves, and I think it was the first time ever in their relationship where he felt like he had the power to do it.

Yeah, because previously it was always Olivia and what Olivia wanted and him trying to make everything work and mediate between his family and Olivia.

And now I've got to move from Georgia to Florida to Minnesota, and now she wants to go to California and I'm constantly appeasing Olivia.

Yeah, no more while I do this.

We're doing this on my terms.

And the fact of the matter is, I mean, I'd love for you to sign these papers, but I mean, you don't have to if you don't want to.

I can still get a divorce from you.

We can still proceed, and we can still get what I want.

So do whatever you want to do with your fuck ass stupid shit.

I'm out peace.

I thought that was pretty base.

It was toxic, but base.

It was toxic base, which is the entire show for sure.

Yeah, and it's like it sucks because Ethan's behavior throughout this entire season has just been absolutely fucking atrocious and has made me hate him a little bit.

But in this episode, I was like, Okay, I thought that was kind of cool that it just gets up and it's like, okay, bye.

Because it stunned her.

It did stun her, and she wanted more and she didn't get it.

You know what.

She went on her Instagram after this episode aired.

I want to read it, Okay, she says.

A producer on the show who has a friendship with Ethan let me know that per their conversations with him, he had expressed a willingness to give me an apology and take accountability.

That didn't sound like the Ethan I was married to, but I was not privy to how they spoke of me all season, so I ignored my gut and I decided that a public apology would be really nice and agreed to a meeting.

My caveat was that I refused to meet him alone or in a private place, so it had to be in public and with all of the crew around.

My last interactions with Ethan involved menacing, erratic and dangerous behavior, and I told myself then that I would never spend time alone with him ever again.

On the day of the meeting, I was super confused as to why he was two hours late, but kept ignoring my gut and figured that even if he did apologize, he is still a part of the Plath family and consideration has never been one of their values.

When he walked in the gate and I could immediately tell that he was angry, I felt stupid for believing better and thinking that he'd apologize.

I don't think I was done dirty by a producer.

I think that person genuinely thought he would apologize to me based on their conversations.

But I learned yet another lesson listen to my gut, and when I know who someone is, I don't need to keep giving them chances to hurt me.

I have no plans to ever talk to him again.

Now that I've seen some of this season air, I can see how much he hates me, has no respect for me, and plans to continue publicly disparaging me.

Well that's rich, though, Olivia.

You have been on a campaign of public disparagement.

I mean, and I'm not saying that it's not valid for you to do that, but it's also valid for Ethan then to be able to counter that or to say his peace.

But like that just paints her as a complete victim.

Like, but it does underscore that she was showing up for an apology.

Huh.

She was, like I sad, showing up to be saying to Olivia, and so then she could turn around and maybe lecture Ethan a little bit about his behavior and how much it hurt her over the years, taking no responsibility for her own shit.

Exactly at all.

Exactly, And so Olivia, I hope I never see you again.

I don't know why we need you.

I mean, hopefully production can create a good show with what we have left.

But Olivia and Veronica, you are not necessary.

And I know that's going to piss off a lot of people, but that's how I feel.

I honestly, I've said this every single recap we've ever done, But it's like, I don't understand how people like stand so hard for these women when it's like they clearly have toxic behavior patterns, and like, look, I've given Olivia a lot of grace this season because people have been comparing, Like even Ethan after this meeting, Ethan's like, yeah, no, I see that Olivia is just as bad as Veronica.

No, No's She's genuinely not as bad as Veronica.

Veronica's straight up evil.

Olivia has been talking about her own experiences, and a lot of it.

There's been sometimes where she has made a mountain out of a mole hill, Like even Ethan says that in this interstitial, He's like, you know, I understand that Olivia has a lot of hurt with things that have happened with my family in the past.

And there have been some things that have happened that were not necessarily pleasant, but there have been a lot of situations where Olivia has completely like embellished them or made them way worse than they needed to be.

And that's the problem that I have with both Olivia and Veronica, that they've just made these situations way more toxic and terrible than they actually were, and it disparages me and my family.

And I think that that there's some truth to that.

Okay, then yeah, no, I do too.

Like I think that the Plath family is not great.

You know, they're not perfect.

I don't think anybody is perfect.

I think that they've definitely done some things to hurt other people and the family, and Olivia and Veronica included.

I get it.

But I think that these girls have kind of embellished a lot of things and made it so that way they could get a lot of clout and a lot of popularity.

And yeah, and then we kind of end the episode.

It's at the same time as Ethan and Olivia's meeting, but we have Kim and Barry meeting at some wine bar or something, and this is like their final hoorah or whatever.

I guess they finally cleared up their divorce.

Everything's final.

They are legally divorced and separated.

I guess all they needed was to meet up with a mediator and it was done in an afternoon.

Barry is super giddy and happy about it.

He's like, finally the ball and chain is off.

Emphasis on ball, bar big old.

I apologize, but really yeah, gosh, and Kim seems happy to it.

Seems like they've also agreed to sell the white house that they are in, which is in kro It's not the farm, but the other white house, the big family house.

Yeah, and I think they put it up for like sixes and I think that it's been dropping in price.

I keep seeing on the starcasm that they're lowering the price because nobody's buying it.

I mean, and Kro for six hundred thousand dollars.

It's crazy to me.

That's just crazy to me.

But I guess they're selling that house.

Barry's going to move into one of their other properties.

I'm like, damn, how many fucking rental.

Properties do you guys have?

This is crazy?

Set themselves up really well, didn't they Just not their kids?

No, not their kids at all.

And I think Kim is like, oh, I'm going to get a camper on the farm or something, and we just kind of blow over that whatever.

I wonder how much money she's getting from me too.

She's probably getting a good and she should.

They were married for twenty five years.

Yeah, and she should.

I guess she's a cheating ass alcoholic.

Yeah, but it doesn't negate the fact that she was married to men for twenty five years and then she raised those children, that she participated in them.

She gets half, she gets sady half, she gets some.

And then when Barry arrives at the bar, He's like, what are you drinking?

And Kim's like, well, I hope you will get me a drink, and I hope you won't be stingy and just give me a glass.

I want the whole fucking bottle.

She wants a whole bottle of wine.

He orders a non alcoholic beverage yeah, and She's like, I want an entire bottle of wine.

And I'm just thinking to myself, Like we talked at the top of this episode, like why Kim, don't you know that we're all clowning on your ass because you had a dui, because you would drunken stuff, and like we're all worried about you because you seem to have a substance abuse problem, and so you're gonna be on camera and order an entire bottle and make your husband pay for it, which he doesn't.

Yeah, he gets her just a glass.

It's pretty great, which I thought was fantastic, but that was wild.

That was awesome.

And then at the end of their meeting, because they're like reminiscing and I really don't care about.

Any of it.

I just was caring about the bottle of wine.

At the end when they leave, Kim again brings it up and she's like, you made sure to give me a bottle though, right, because I want a bottle of white wine.

And Bear's like, yeah, go to the counter and get it.

And so she's like, where's my bottle of white wine?

I'm like, you need a chill, Yeah, buy your own bottle.

Just set of settlements for real crazy broke.

Yeah maybe she is.

Though maybe she's broke, I don't know.

She seems to be living well.

Yeah, But that's the end of the season.

That's it.

And so I want to make sure that we give a grade to the season, because I think we left season six of Plathfill with like a D minus or an athlete.

It was bottom of the barrel terrible.

It was all about Olivia and the tarot cards and the vagina chested boyfriend.

But this year, my grade is different.

What's your grade?

I think a minus B plus.

It was pretty great.

Yeah, it was pretty awesome.

I think the same.

I would say a minus.

Yeah.

I mean they have rehabilitated themselves in my eyes.

I am very curious to see what happens next year, if they're even going to be coming back, and if so, what are the storylines.

Is Ken Palmer going to be hard launched as Kim's fiance or something the next wedding that we're going to be adding Kim and Ken, and how's the family gonna feel about that?

And then what's going on with Ethan and Teacan And did they break up or was she just unable to relocate because she's got a child in Wisconsin And so if Ethan wants to move to Caro, which he expressed in this episode, then they would necessarily probably need to break up.

And so what happened with that?

And what's going on with Zach and Lydia and maybe showcasing their life, And then we've got Mariah over in Montana, and you know, I Love Me a Western romance, and so I'm just wondering because she's at the tip top peak of her life.

She's in her early twenties.

She moved away to Montana where there are cowboys and ranches and all of this nature, and is she meeting somebody?

Is there a romance that's happening.

I want to know.

I would love to know.

Yeah.

I feel like the thing that saves this show is the fact that the Plaths aren't producing themselves pretty heavily.

They are pretty authentic, like in their reaction to things and how they recount stuff, And that's what's really nice about it, as opposed to like Sister Wives, where they're just fucking.

Night season after season after season after season.

Fluff upon fluff.

Like the Plaths, if they can keep that authenticity, like I would be interested in following them around and what they're doing.

I just don't know if it'll keep me forever.

Yeah, if it's not going to be drama malicious.

But we're going to be back, yeah, and we're definitely interested.

I'm hooked still.

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