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And if you'd like us to grow, I mean, if you would like us to do making content for you, please, if you could help us, that would be so awesome and so thank you in heavy thank you and so as ever, Beatrice, I'd like to ask you, after watching the most recent episode of platfill, what are some of your takeaways.

I was loving Mike and Veronica's couples therapists.

Oh oh yeah, she was reading Veronica based filth so based loved her, want more of her?

Yes, And my takeaway is that in that same therapist session, my hate for Veronica grew.

And do you know, previous to this, I didn't think it could grow.

I thought I was at maximum capacity for that twat but nope, I hated her more because she looks right into the camera, She looks right at Micah, she looks right at the therapist, and she just smiles as she says, I love being hateful.

Yeah, I love being an absolute See you next Tuesday, and I don't care who I hurt.

She literally says it feels good, feels good to hurt Micah.

And so I was like, are we watching somebody with a debilitating personality disorder on our television?

I know, but I often edited out for YouTube.

But are we literally just allowing ourselves to become like Turbo enraged by somebody who maybe can't help the fact that they're broken, irravicable in their inner world, that their brain is fucking broken, and that their only option left is to be an abusive piece of shit on planet Earth?

Is that what we're doing?

Yeah, sign me up.

That was my takeaway, beatrue Man based.

All right, So, without any further ado, let's get into this week's recap of Welcome to Plath Bill season seven, Episode seven seven, entitled.

The House Guests.

I don't know who that's referring to Zach and Lydia at Micah and Veronica.

Yes, okay, I guess.

And maybe it's Zach coming to live with Barry.

I don't know.

Well, that's where we start the episode.

We have Zach coming down from Colorado.

Lydia helped him move all of his shit down to Georgia.

He's moving into the Plath family home.

He's moving into Isaac's old room up in the attic, and so Isaac is there as well.

He helped clean out that room.

I guess he moved into Mariah's old room, and so everybody's moving Zach up on in the house and we have like a little interstitial with Isaac.

We haven't heard too much from in this season really, like we've seen him with his pooky bear and everything, but that's about it.

And this is where he expresses his feelings about Zach.

He doesn't really know him.

He thinks that Zach is a little pushy, a little bossy, and he's a little worried about it, but he's like hoping for the.

Best, right And I was just wondering if maybe there were some things that we didn't see from the day of his proposal.

I thought that too, because I know Ethan and Micah and even Veronica were co signing that Zach was very controlling, very exacting.

It was getting on their nerves.

So maybe there's like a bit more that he was doing.

And even when he's upstairs in his new room with Lydia and she's so excited and they're talking as they're sitting on the bed and she cuts him off at some point like the way he pulls himself back and looks at her and kind of chuckles a little bit, and then she's like, what what did I do?

And I was like, hmmmm, the energy shift in him because he got annoyed that she spoke for him.

I was like, ooh, misogyny alert.

That's what I've been miss misogyny alert.

And I've been sus of Zach from day one, and I know it wasn't popular at first, but like, now we're starting to see these little things.

And I was wondering the same thing because Isaac said that he was pushy and bossy.

He also said he doesn't think that he puts lydia first, which I thought was really interesting to point out.

And I'm like, what are we not seeing?

We're not seeing something because certainly it wasn't just engagement day, because clearly Zach was trying to put lydia first and create like a beautiful, magical experience.

Maybe there's just other things that are happening behind the scenes that were not privy to but yeah, Isaac seems to have a healthy dose of suspicion yep, when it comes to Zach.

And so I'm kind of agreeing with him a little bit.

But you know what, Zach's a young kid, and Zach's probably never been in a relationship in his entire life.

I mean, he says he has okay with his hand.

I'm sorry, but like, I just don't know how much of an experienced person he is, so he might not know how to be in a relationship.

But yeah, a little worried for Lydia.

And it's like, at first, when the season started, we had a lot of the criticism of Zach coming from Ethan and his big dumb caveman brain of.

Just o are you gay?

Are you queer?

And so it's like, of course, you don't want to take that seriously because it's just so stupid.

But then it's like, then you have the sentiment coming from Micah, and then you have some of it coming from Kim, who also who cares some but then you have it coming from Amber and Isaac, and so it's like, Okay, if enough people are expressing some reservations about this guy, like maybe we need to listen to it.

I'm seeing a lot of discourse online being like nobody should be critical of Zach.

He's so nice, and I'm like, yeah, but this is still an edited TV show.

Are we just gonna trust him?

And maybe he like, maybe he's not terrible, but maybe he's not the best either.

I don't know.

Yeah, And I would like to say that I trust Lydia's judgment, but I don't exactly.

And it's not because she's a bad person.

It's just that she's a very naive, guileless person who hasn't really experienced much of the world outside of her various and sundry mission trips.

But that's not the real world, honey.

No, so you don't have like a good sampling of actual people that share the planet with you.

And so, yeah, I'm a little I'm a little worried.

And it's very fast, obviously, but she's gonna do it, she is.

Nobody's gonna stop her.

No, so we've got Zach for a little while at least.

Oh, definitely.

And then Zach makes a comment before we move on to the next scene, saying that him and Lydia have been moving so fast that they haven't had time to breathe and they think this is after she cut him off a little bit and he gave her that look and he's like, no, like, I'm not mad at her or anything.

It's just, you know, it's been a lot, and like I like to talk too, and you know, we just have been doing too much.

We just need time to breathe.

And I'm like, okay, but they just traveled from Colorado to Georgia in a car together, so they've just spent like three days on the road or whatever, right, and so they it's probably okay that he just needs a little bit of a breather totally.

But I'm like, this is all Buyer doing.

Though you wanted to for month, made the choice, Yep, this is your choice.

So this is what you don't get, right, And then we switch gears and we go to kind of the meat of the episode, which is Micah and Veronica going to couples therapy.

And this was like so wild because we started off with Micah Sweet Micah just saying I feel like I'm going to therapy because I actually want to be a better Micah for Veronica.

I want to be a better person.

I want to work on myself.

But I don't feel like Veronica is going to therapy for that same reason.

I feel like she's just wanting me to think and act more like her and what she wants me to be.

And so I don't know if we're going to have like a very successful or productive therapy session.

And well, I behold, he's right.

Yeah, And to me, this is a great demonstration of Micah's actual emotional intelligence.

He's very insightful.

He might not be an educated man, and yes he's made his mistakes, but I feel like he's showing up to this therapy session giving it his best effort.

Yep.

For some reason that I do not understand in my fucking brain ball, he loves this monster of a person and he's trying to make this work.

And so he's showing up and he's being authentic and he's opening his heart.

And the entire time, she's sitting next to him, and she's just goating him and berating him and degrading him in front of this therapist.

Which is why they say you can't take a narcissist to therapy, Like there's no reaching that person.

There's such a block in an obstacle to their actual consciousness, like there's no hope, abandon hope.

All ye who enter into Veronica Peter's orbits because something is wrong with her and she gets off on belittling even the therapist talking over the therapist.

I know it's so gross.

I just don't understand it.

And like we start off the conversation or the therapy session with Veronica saying Micah's been looking up pictures of naked women, naked women that they know, and then the therapist is like, what do you mean, and she's like, well, Teagan, who is Ethan's girlfriend, Like I said, she has an OnlyFans or I think Micah brings it up.

No, it was Veronica who said she saw an article that indicated that Teagan was an OnlyFans model, causing Micah to call his brother Ethan and say, hey, Veronica said that there's an article that says your girlfriend is an only fans model, And so then they get off the phone and Micah accept his phone to read the article.

Yeah, to actually look at the source that Veronica cited, to see what the hell she's talking about, which she purposefully misunderstands, like she's going out of her way to misunderstand that looking up the article, to equal that he was looking up the pictures of Teagan's naked body, which he tries to explain in the session like absolutely not.

I was like, looking to see if what you told me is true is.

True, because he says that all Veronica does is she'll say some shit and doesn't fact check it at all.

She says it as if it is true, as if there is base to it, and then he's trying to fact check it, and she wants to braid him for that, and I think he even said that when he called Ethan to tell him what Veronica told him, Ethan was like, well, look it up and make sure it's true.

And so that's what Micah did.

He wasn't looking it up to jack off to Teagan's naked photos.

He was literally just trying to make sure what she was saying was true.

But no, Veronica spins it into Mike's a cheater.

He will always be a cheater.

He's looking up naked photos of someone that we know, so therefore he can't be trusted at all.

He can't even be around this woman ever again because he's just gonna go fuck her like that's her logic.

Right, And he's been trying to tell everybody like she just escalates to these absolute irrational proportions and like there's absolutely no dealing with him, So you can kind of see how he has turned into this just quiet, beaten down, broken shell of a person who doesn't have the agency to like say what he actually feels, and whenever he does, she just steamrolls him every single time.

And again, I just have to say, I have to speculate, like what's going on in the house that we're not seeing, because Veronica seems abusive.

She seems like she knows she's abusive.

She seems like she's happy to be an abuser.

And so with a person like that, once the cameras down and you go back to your new home, which she owns, what she's working on and probably the reason Kim said is your name on that?

Like why are you working like a dog to flip this house?

Probably when we go back to that house, what are you actually doing to Micah?

Because I mean, I don't know Micah's authentic, innate personality other than what we've seen over the seasons, but it takes quite a bit of browbeating and potential beating beating to break a man down like that where he's like unwilling to walk away from you.

Yeah, Like I'm just like, Michael, why aren't you getting up out of this therapy session and just saying I'm out.

Yeah.

It's like he's becoming conscious to the fact that he's being beat down and that he can't ever win, because Veronica doesn't want him to ever win or get a leg up or anything like that.

She wants him to be low down on the ground.

She wants him to be beaten down because she likes that a man a worm exactly.

And like, the therapist tries to call her out on this, and she's like, well, why aren't you listening to him when he's trying to say and explain why he was looking up Teagan's only fans, Like, he wasn't looking it up to jack off or to cheat on you.

He was just trying to fact check you.

Why can't you hear him?

Why can't you believe him?

And then Veronica's like, well, but I can't trust him, And the therapist is like, okay, then why are you even here?

Like why are we here for this?

And Veronica's like, well, but I love him, and I think that Mike's a good guy and he's got a good heart and a good soul, and I think he's a good person.

But like, also, I can't trust him because he's a piece of shit, cheater, Like that's her manipulation.

It's like, give him a little bit, say that he's a good guy, but then shit all over him because you're hurt that he cheated on you.

And there was some point, and I don't know if I'm skipping ahead, but I can't quite keep it all together.

But there's some point where Veronica was addressing the cameras and she talks about being bullied as a child.

Yes, he and I talked about that.

Well, it's not hard.

You don't have to be a psychic on the Internet to see that this woman has been traumatized and now she's hurting other people as a result of the trauma.

But she talks about how she wasn't skinny enough, how she wasn't pretty enough, and how she was not accepted by her peers.

And I'm just like, okay, well I get it.

I feel like a lot of us have been bullied.

Maybe we didn't have a lifetime full of bullying, but a lot of us have experienced being bullied at some point in our life.

And that's terrible, obviously, but we don't allow that to then turn us into a bully to other people.

Exactly like a lot of us hopefully go to therapy and work on ourselves and we realize, well, bullying's bad, and so therefore I should not be a bully.

And I get that Veronica's young and she hasn't put all these puzzle pieces together, but there's just this demonic glee to her, yeah, when she's hurting somebody else.

And I really question the level of abuse and bullying that she endured, and not so as to question whether she's telling the truth.

I believe her.

I wonder, like how bad that really was.

I think it was probably very bad.

Yes, I wonder about her home life.

I wonder who defended young Veronica.

But at this point, you're an adult.

You should know better.

You don't get a pass for treating people like an absolute monster, demon, trash bag.

You are a ghoul for how you're treating this young man.

You shouldn't treat a dog like this, or no, of course, not a dog.

You shouldn't treat anything or anybody like this.

And I feel like, from a meta position, I know I'm going off in a tangent, but like from the production viewpoint, like looking at Veronica, it almost feels like she decided a while ago that she wants to be the villain.

Yeah, I want to take on the role of the bad guy, and I'm going to call the plaths out and i want to take every single opportun tunity to be on camera and to shit stir.

And that's kind of why she's doing some of this well.

And I think she thinks that she would get all the support from like other toxic people who are also chronically online oh yeah, yeah, and like who were also like bullied and think that it's okay to treat other people this way.

And like Veronica says some shit in the therapy session about how she believes in the Golden rule treat others how you want to be treated or how they treat you.

But I'm like, if you want to be treated kindly, then treat people with kindness.

Why are we being mean to everybody?

Because that's your definition of the Golden Rule, And like Micah tries to challenge her on that as somebody who like actually grew up with the real Golden Rule from the Ten Commandments of the Bible, where it actually fucking comes from.

It doesn't.

That's why Veronica makes fun of him.

It was actually something that Jesus said, so the ten commandments are from the time of Moses.

Well, I meant like it came from the Bible, comes from the Bible.

But like what she was religious mocking him for was that he got the scripture wrong.

And he's trying to talk about loving our neighbor as we love ourselves and like the principle of love.

But she's focusing on the fact that he got something wrong.

Yeah, and that he's stupid, and she's just laughing at him.

Yeah, it's gross, it's so gross, it's super gross.

And then she talks about how she's somebody who is very competitive and gets in the mud, so she will fight for things and she's kind of an aggressive person and so she's gonna make her voice heard or whatever.

And so this analogy of being in the mud comes up in the therapy session, like as a way of Veronica always just being ready to fight and like ready to attack, and she doesn't need to be at that level.

She doesn't need to be defensive, she doesn't need to be mean, she doesn't need to be angry.

You can communicate your hurt feelings and your anger and a healthy way.

We're not hurting other people as a result.

But Veronica can't hear that because she can't see past her big fucking head and her big fucking feelings, like it's all just about how she feel.

And she says, well, but I like to be in the mud, and I like to make people feel bad because they hurt me.

And I do this to Micah intentionally, on purpose, because I want him to feel as shitty as he makes me feel.

Girl, And in that moment, it should have been such a huge moment of clarity for Micah to realize this woman is untreatable, this woman is potentially evil, and taking it back to scripture, like the scripture of throwing pearls before swine, this idea that we're giving the very best of ourselves, the treasure of ourselves, and we're throwing it to people who are literal pigs in a pit rolling around in mud, who don't even understand what pearls are.

And Micah, that is what you're doing.

Like, yes, you've made mistakes, and yes you come from a somewhat problematic family, but like, you're a good person, you're a kind person, you're a nice young man.

Why are you throwing the very best parts of you at the feet of this monster who just wants to laugh at you, wants to make you feel pain.

It's because he feels so guilty.

I think he feels so guilty because part of the reason is because of Veronica making him feel guilty.

But also he knows I think deep down that cheating on her was super wrong and it obviously hurt her so badly, and so I think he's staying out of guilt, which is another like manipulative tactic, and like I think the therapist tries to call it out in the session of like why are you here, Veronica, Like, if you want to be here, you need to actually try and forgive him.

If you love him, you need to try and forgive him, and like give each other the space to actually grow from this and be better.

But Veronica doesn't want that.

She says she does, She says she wants to forgive, and she says she loves him everything.

But no, if you actually did, you would let your guard down and stop being such a fucking viper to somebody who you claim to love.

I don't think there's anything under the Veneer here.

I don't think underneath it all she a good person.

I think she's a broken and bad person.

I'm like, who's hiring this woman to help source their homes or sell their homes?

Like, how does she conduct herself in a professional setting, Because like when we get to the part with Zach and Lydia and she's just having like a conversation with Lydia, she's so abnormal, Like the way she moves her head all the time, and the way she's like always looking up and talking with her affect.

I'm like, yeah, who's hiring you to do anything?

Like you need a lot of help.

But I'm not making fun of her.

I'm just pointing to her mannerisms, her behavior, and the things that she's actually saying.

Like there's something super turbo troubling about this young woman.

Yeah, it's it's really fucking toxic.

And you know what, speaking of it in our the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five, she's got another boyfriend and he looks like a Temou version of Micah, like total blonde, you know, surfer whatever.

But like, she's got another boyfriend.

I don't believe it.

She posted about him the other day on his breath.

I'm sure I don't believe it.

That girl's a liar.

If she does is a terrible person and a liar.

I feel like she's probably got an MO and her relationships like if she's actually got a personality disorder, if she's a narc or whatever, Like she lures people in and then once she gets comfortable with them, then she lets her shit down and starts being an asshole.

Truly toxic, and she gaslights.

I mean, I think that's why Mike's still here.

I think he's so turned around, like he doesn't know what's right, he doesn't know what's wrong.

All he knows is that he's always wrong, and so he doesn't want to visit himself on anybody else in any other relationship.

He even says at some point like I just don't know how to handle women.

I just don't know how to pick women, Like something's wrong with me because she's gas lamped him so hard that he doesn't even know who he is.

It's so fucking sad.

And then at the end of the therapy session, she just like gets up and leaves and doesn't say goodbye to any time and.

Say thank you for the therapy session, doesn't acknowledge what the therapist was saying right before.

She stood up It kind of reminded me of Mao from Couple's Therapy with Doctor Horna, which we cover on Patreon.

By the way, you want to go look, it's so good.

But it kind of reminded me of that because he did that same thing.

He would get up in the middle of a therapy session.

While doctor Ganna is talking to him directly, and he would start perusing her bookshelves and pulling off like Rubik's cubes and looking at them while she's trying to address him.

Yeah, and that was with Veronica, Like every time the therapist would try to talk to her, she's like looking at her shirt or whatever, or like not paying attention because she's only thinking about her feelings in this because her feelings are the only valid feelings here, nothing else, and she doesn't want to listen to the therapist who's trying to advocate for Like, hey, I get that you're her person and that you're angry and that you have a guard up, but like maybe take it down a few notches and lead with love instead of hatred.

She feels good, she loves it, she loves like I want like are you a sociopath?

Like I mean, I we're getting into those types of conversations.

Veronica, maybe weirdo, she's a freak dude, sorry but not sorry how I feel.

And then we get to the Platt family farm and this is where we have a double date between Tagan and Ethan and Kaylan and Isaac.

I cannot tell Teagan and Caylin apart.

I know they look like the same person.

Yeah, they have a very similar name.

I'm like, who are these generic pretty white girls?

Exactly, no personalities.

Not really, who are you?

Not really at all.

But they're doing like some dorky little double date between the two of them.

You see Ethan and Isaac like playing around in the country and they talk about how much they love being at home in kro and on the farm, like that's where their heart is.

And Ethan talks about how he gets homesick when he comes down to Georgia every time he comes back or goes back to Minnesota.

He's like, man, I just wish I could be back with my family.

And it made me one if maybe that's the reason because Ethan and Tiagan I think are broken up.

Really yes, and the current year of our Lord really yes, because she doesn't follow him on Instagram anymore.

Oh my got Tea.

Yeah, so, and there's rumors going around.

I don't know if it's true that they have totally broken up.

I was kind of wondering because in this episode he talks about relocating back down to Georgia, and I'm like, doesn't he can have a baby.

Yeah, and she's up in Wisconsin.

Yeah, so she's probably got a baby daddy.

Yeah, so that baby daddy's probably not going to allow his child to leave Wisconsin.

So yeah, So I'm wondering if that's maybe the reason he just wanted to come back to KBrO.

I hope nothing bad happened between the two of them.

I think Tea gets a nice girl.

For however boring and generic she is.

I think she's probably nice.

I don't wish anything bad in their relationship.

But during this double date, it was kind of weird because all four of them paint portraits of each other, and it was like kind of silly, like whatever.

But like Ethan paints a naked silhouette of Teagan and I'm just like, O, my god.

Yeah.

A lot of people are giving him flack for that online.

I just think it's kind of cringey to me.

Yeah, what are they giving him flack for, Like he's a sexual predator.

He's a misogynist and guys, yeah, and I'm just like, Okay, he's attracted to his woman.

It doesn't mean that he's a misogynist, but like whatever, and he says something to that effect, like I painted her naked picture because of all this rumor going around of her having an only fan, so I just figured i'd play it up on it.

And I don't know.

And then we have Isaac painting pooky Bear Kaylin and then he says that it looks like a pig because his drawing is so bad, right, And it was just like it is kind of sweet.

Or it was a quaint little scene with two brothers and their girlfriends just having a nice night.

I mean it was sweet, but it was kind of giving, like Olivia and her weird boyfriends.

So the last season, I'm like, Okay, I'm about to snore, I'm about to fall asleep, so move it along.

Like I literally don't care.

The only thing that was interesting was Teagan talking about the rumor, yeah, that Veronica has been spreading about her yes having an OnlyFans, and Teagan straight up says it's kind of interesting that somebody I've met only once is talking about me posting naked photos and videos of myself on OnlyFans.

It's giving fan behavior, like girl or you a fan of the show too, though, But.

I still loved it so much.

And I also loved when Kaylin and Teagan were alone in the kitchen, Yes, and didn't Veronica come up during that scene and they kind of started laughing about her because Teagan was talking about having only met her once.

Yeah, it was something like I think Kayln opened up the conversation with like, you know, how do you like dating a Plath?

And Tegan's like, I love it?

And I think the Plaths get a bad rap, like they're just a normal family.

Every family's dysfunctional.

And then I think Kaylin brought up Veronica, like the first time she ever met her was at the proposal, and that was when Veronica was talking shit, trying to talk shit about the family to Kaitlin.

I'm like, Veronica, you were unhinge.

Calm down, just stop it.

You don't need to talk crap about everybody, Like I'm sorry, but Kaylene seems to lack the family.

She seems to like Isaac, Teagan seems to like the family too, so you're not going to turn them against the Plaths just because you're bitter, And I'll keep it to myself.

And then we have Lydia and Zach going down to Boca to visit Micah and Veronica at their house.

I guess they're going to stay there for like a weekend or whatever to have Zach get to know Micah and his crazy demonic girlfriend.

And we have Micah literally digging trenches under the house because their pipes have broken, and rather than hire a plumber, she's just gonna make Micah do it slave labor, literally, like do it for free and get under the house and figure that shit's.

Called sweat equity.

I mean, where you work on behalf of your dwelling.

And you would hope that Micah therefore would have some sort of an interest in the home.

But I don't think that he does.

No.

I think he's kind of like Ethan here, where he's like, I just need to work on something physical and practical maybe nothing else makes sense in my life.

Like Micah says something like I understand plumbing better than I understand relationships and understand girls.

I think they like really gravitate towards like physical things to do with their hands where it can make sense to them.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

It just shows like he's so lost in this relationship.

And we have Veronica saying some bullshit to the camera about after the therapy session, she realized that she says some things out of anger that is really mean and hurtful.

I said that last episode, and you said that the episode before that, and you said that the episode before that.

So when does the change in behavior happen?

Yeah, when do you actually realize that you're venomous and you're mean and you shouldn't be talking like that to somebody you proport.

You shouldn't be in a relationship with anybody straight up?

You need like actual intensive therapy for your fucking self, or like, I don't know, a heroic dose of shrooms where you can kill that ego of yours because shit.

Your pants and have a transcendent moment.

Actually though, I mean like there's otherwise there's no help for you, I know, God.

And then Micah says that he's worried about Veronica blowing up in front of his family again because Lydia and Zach are coming to town, and I think she ends up doing that.

I mean, I think we're probably gonna continue this scene next episode.

It seems like, I don't know, but we have Zach coming down and he's in the trenches with Micah.

Which I thought was really cool.

Yeah, he's trying to do bro stuff, brotings.

Yeah, but I did see them talk a little bit Lydia and Zach about Micah and Ethan sitting him down to ask a bunch of dumb questions.

And I think Michael also addresses this too.

How Ethan and Micah asked Zach if he was gay, and we get it from Zach's perspective and he's like, yeah, that was pretty disrespectful.

But I mean, I understand where they're coming from.

I'm not holding any grudges, and so I feel like Zach really does show up to Boca Raton like with an open heart, like wanting to connect.

He's not holding anything against Micah, even though I would, Yeah, I would, for sure.

I mean he does say something like I don't have brothers myself, but I am a brother to two sisters, and so like I understand their perspective of just like looking out for Lydia, and they're asking me hard questions, so like, I'm just gonna give them the benefit benefit of the doubt.

And I think Lydia says something like, you know, we're here specifically so my brother can like get to know my fiance, my future husband, and if he wants to do that, that's great.

If he doesn't, then he's gonna miss out.

Like she has a good level head about it, like she's like, I'm genuinely trying in the short amount of time to have my family get to know my new media and if they don't want to, they don't want to, mm hmm, and that's fair.

And then we have Lydia going off by the pool with Veronica's mean ass, and then we have Zach and Micah doing their own thing.

And when we have Lydia and Veronica talking at the pool, Veronica's immediately talking about the proposal and the wedding and.

Well, but first she has to love bomb Lydia and say, oh my god, you're like one of the only plaths that I actually get along with.

And the last time I saw you, I was at your engagement and I really didn't have a great time, but I was there for you because I really like you, and I'm like, oh, you're so toxic.

Everything about you is toxic.

And you can kind of see Lydia start to lean back, yeah, because she's picking up what Veronica's throwing down, and she says to the camera something like, well, I mean thank you, but I'm also hearing the insult to my family at the same time.

Yeah.

Well, I'm like, how uncomfortable is that to hear?

Like, yeah, so I only showed up to your engagement because of you, but like I was like really uncomfortable the whole time there, and it was just like really weird and tense, and I don't know, I just didn't really like it.

And you know, to be honest, like I'm a little worried about the wedding too, and showing up there and it's like, who says that to somebody?

That's so bizarre to me.

Like, even if I go to a social function that I don't really want to go to, I'm not going to tell the people who are hosting the social function.

Yeah this shit was shitty.

Yeah, and I don't want to be here.

I'm not gonna say that.

That's not polite.

She cannot help herself at all, and was this the scene?

Correct me?

If I'm wrong, I'm probably wrong.

But at some point Veronica says something like, yeah, those boys setting Zach on fire or setting the scene on fire.

I was trying to stop them, but like they couldn't be stopped.

Like she blamed it all on Ethan and Mica when she was the main instigator to those boys to get Ethan to set fire to the peer or whatever, Like she just pretended she had nothing to do with it.

I was like, what's going on?

It's literally on film?

Yeah, Like, I don't understand how you can lie about something.

It's like with the Browns and Sister Wise, It's like, how are you lying right if it's literally recorded on my televin I'm watching you say this stuff.

I'm watching you instigate these boys.

I don't understand you.

And it's like, I don't understand how people can even look at Veronica now in season in episode seven and still root for her, because there's no bad editing here.

There's no like weird tricks of the camera or some weird story against the plasts.

Like she's genuinely crazy and genuinely the problem here.

Yeah, that's it.

I mean it's all on her.

Yeah, and again, and we've said this before.

It's not that she doesn't have like a kernel, like a one percent valid point about Micah and whatever, but like it's the way she's going about just setting it all on fire and being so disrespectful to everybody that just nobody cares about what your original point was.

Nobody cares to listen to you, nobody wants to be around you, Verona, No, you're so valadapted.

Yep.

And like Lydia, poor sweet Lydia just wants to have a nice wedding, Like she doesn't need all of this drama.

And I feel bad, I really do, Like I feel bad that her wedding is the source of so much drama, And like I've been critical about her and Zach's timeline and everything and how it's fast and she didn't give her family enough time to get to know him.

I get it, but like I feel like for the most part, the Plaths would have been on their best behavior.

I'm not gonna say I'm not going to blame the future events on the wedding all on Veronica, I am, but like, mark.

My words, if she's the instigator.

Yeah, like she's the one I start shit, and it's going to be Micah trying to protect her.

Yes, because maybe Veronica says something to Kaylin and then Isaac gets upset on behalf of Kaylin, and then Micah's going to feel some sort of displaced loyalty to Veronica, so he's going to step in front of her, and then it's on between Isaac and Micah something like that.

If it's not exactly that, it is something that Veronica does to set fire to the entire thing.

Definitely.

I mean, this whole episode, she keeps threatening to not go to the wedding, like please, I'm not gonna go to the wedding.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

Please don't show up.

Nobody wants you there, Please don't.

Like She's like, I'm not gonna show up if Teagan's there because my man was looking up for her, looking up her titties or something online.

But then she says some fucked up shit like if I don't go to the wedding, Micah can't go and Micah can't go alone, And I'm like, are you kidding?

She's not kidding.

This is his sister, this is her wedding, like he should be allowed to go.

I don't give a fuck.

If you're uncomfortable about you don't go.

Then back from uncensored, I said a little something that I probably shouldn't leave up for general consumption.

By the way, if you want to catch all of our uncensored bits, you gotta be a patron, So join us in the dumpster over there.

What were we saying about how much I hate her.

Again, that she's just absolutely fucking and so terrible, and like her manipulating Mica into not going to the wedding, and her threatening to not go to the wedding, like bitch, stay home, yeah please, Like, look, you have every right so like not like the plaths.

I've said this before.

You have every right to not really get along with the family.

Not everybody jives with other people's families.

That's fucking fine, But you don't have a right to like dictate and control Micah and his actions with his own fucking family.

Like you don't have the right to be like if I'm not going, you're not going to your sister's wedding?

Fuck you?

I mean, if we reversed the genders on that, I mean, how many of us would be absolutely losing our shit over that.

And that's the thing.

That's the thing.

It's like women can be abusers as well, yes, but they're often not taken seriously because we don't think that men can be abused in the same ways that men abuse women.

Like no, Like, I'm sorry, I feel bad for Micah.

He is beaten down.

This woman is crazy.

She's an evil witch, and I'm so over it.

I am over it as well.

I feel like we're being redundant.

About every episode.

It's so often I.

Would mean to beat a dead horse, but like it's just she's she's pretty bad.

She's just bad, and she's triggering.

I think she's figuring a lot of people out there who have known somebody like her.

Yes, And then we have like Zach and Micah just like digging holes or whatever, and they're having bro talk and Zach can sense there's tension between Mike and Veronica.

He asks Micah about it, and poor Micah is just like I think he's embarrassed by how toxic his relationship is and how like outwardly toxic it is because it's affecting literally everybody, because Veronica has to make it everybody else's business, and Mike's just like, well, like we're trying.

And then Micah says something to the camera, like, you know, me and Veronica are going through our own shit, and that's really unfortunate, and it sucks that I'm like watching Zach and Lydia who seems so happy and in love, but at the same time they're in their honeymoon phase, and me and Veronica we're in our honeymoon phase as well, and now we're not.

So I think he's like trying to foreshadow to the fact that, like married life's going to be different for Lydia and Zach, maybe things will be right.

But what Micah doesn't understand that is that long term marriages don't look like what he's got with Veronica.

Like my husband would never never, and I never would with my husband, And I look at a relationship like you have, and you guys are so compatible, but you also truly try to err on the side of being respectful and loving towards one another in your communication and the way you interact with each other even when things are hard, and like, that's a healthy relationship.

And so what Micah doesn't know is what a healthy relationship is because let's not forget the model previous to this relationship.

For that, for Micah was Kim and Barry, right, and who knows what was really happening in that house as well.

Yep.

And even then with his older brother Ethan, like he had.

You watched Ethan and Olivia through a really toxic divorce and it was not a healthy relationship.

And now you see Ethan and what he's turned into as kind of a bitter rezon, full homophobe homophobe drunk yeah, like.

Drunk ass homophobe.

Yeah, Like he's degraded.

And even Mariah.

He's also seen Mariah and how beaten down she's become out of all of her relationships and now she's run off to the mountains of Montana, which, by the way, she has been posting some beautiful photos of her life in Montana now and she seems to be happy.

I hope, So, I hope.

So she's back to being blonde, and I love that for her.

I did to get rid of the black hair, please.

So I do want to say, though, while Micah and Zach are outside working on that terrible project plumbing project, the gay thing comes up again.

Yeah, and I thought it was funny when Micah said are you gay or something?

Or why are you gay?

Or something like that, like he referenced me.

But they had kind of a little talk about it.

Yeah, I wish they would have gone a little farther with that.

I feel like Micah's actually a pretty sensitive person, and he kind of makes a few statements in this episode like yeah, I feel like we were asking some questions that were maybe not appropriate, Like I realize that that might have made Zach uncomfortable.

I really wish I would have heard Micah articulate that a little bit more and maybe apologize because I think maybe he feels bad about it.

Yeah, especially now with Zach helping him dig his ditch and stuff.

I mean real, I'm wondering why we're kind of glossing over that comment because on Zach's perspective, I'm sure that was very hurtful and very disrespectful and like, how dare you question my inappropriate actuality?

And like it's super inappropriate, And I'm just like wondering, like why we're not having more in depth conversations about that.

Well, I think that they are addressing it.

I know that Zach and Lydia are talking to the camera.

But maybe Micah doesn't know what to say.

Maybe Micah doesn't have the capacity with everything emotional happening in his life right now, it's just like bombs going off everywhere, Like he just doesn't have the mental aptitude to like have the conversation.

I'm hope at some point he went back around and he apologized sincerely for that and said, you know I was wrong.

But we don't know.

I think Lydia has said currently, like on some podcast or whatever.

I think she has said that like Ethan has apologized to her specifically.

I don't know if she said Micah has apologized to I can't imagine that he to her.

Well, they owe the apology to him.

Yes, they've apologized to both of them.

What she's kind of alluded to.

She hasn't given a lot of details because it's Lydia and she doesn't really want to gossip or not.

She has expressed that she doesn't want to talk bad about her family or anything like that.

But I think she has said that they have come around and apologize, which is cool.

I just wish we could see that resolution.

Maybe we will, Maybe we will, who knows, or maybe Ethan's gonna set Zach on fire, apparently according to Veronica at the wedding, I don't think so.

And then after digging ditches and talking shit by the pool, then we come inside and to the drab ass home and play some weird truth or dare ye game, and I mean they try to, like I think, they try to start off with Lydia and Zach, and Zach says something like, well, I don't want to do truth because we already know everything about each other.

After four months, we already know everybody, so there's no truth to divulge, So let's do dare.

And I think Veronica is the one that starts it off, right, doesn't she do some kind of dare?

Yeah, She's like, well, we're gonna give you a double dare.

You can choose one, and it's either kiss Zach or take a shot.

Yeah, And so Lydia chooses to kiss Zach on the cheek.

But I just that just hit me a little cruel, because Veronica understands at this point, just as everybody does, that that is Lydia's value, right, that is her faith.

She can't help herself but to try and get Lydia to compromise on that yeah, and I just felt like that was a bit then.

I also thought it was interesting that Lydia was having an alcoholic beverage at twenty years of age.

She's not twenty one at this time.

No, they did say she turned twenty one at this point.

I thought she wasn't yet.

Well, according to Veronica on Reddit, she was saying that she wasn't, but like they opened it up saying she just turned twenty one.

Mm okay, because last episode she was having champagne with Yeah.

Well, I think she's been drinking is as I think my bigger point just like we've got Mariah, who is an adult, you can drink, it is legal.

I think Lydia, the missionary, the sold out for Jesus, young lady praying in a closet, has also been drinking, which I think just speaks volumes to whatever the family culture was when they were living on that farm.

I think Kim was drinking.

I think they're not unfamiliar with alcohol.

Yeah, and like when you were strict kids so much, I mean, like what are they going to turn to?

They're going to turn to advice, like when you don't like promote a culture of like openness and like tr rust, like they grow up and they get into substances, like it's just like the natural way of things, Like I don't know, people experiment I was a bad kid and I was experimenting in my teens, which I shouldn't have.

But Lydia's supposed to be like Southern Baptist IBLP, which I don't know if that's Southern Baptist, but like CALTI Christian praying in a closet.

It just seems a bit like a non sequorder to me that she would be able to justify drinking alcohol because like back and then when I was a missionary and an evangelical and a street preacher and doing all my business, I would have never had alcohol.

No, never, never would have had alcohol.

I'm not an evangelical anymore obviously, but like I just wouldn't have done it.

So I'm just wondering, like what she actually believes around that.

It's the blood of Jesus.

And if there's like a cognitive dissonance that's happening, or if it's like something built into their family.

I don't know, what do you think?

Righty, Maybe she's dealing with some emotional shit, so she's drinking.

Yeah, her pain, just the pain, yeah, but yeah, the whole like truth or dair thing.

It.

I felt like it was just Veronica's way of being like, look like I'm fun and cool and I'm like normal like everybody else.

But it's like, you're not fun to be around.

You're actually really mean, and everyone I think is kind of scared of you.

Like congrats, like this is what you've cultivated for all of your relationships.

I'm not.

And I also don't think Ethan is, and I don't think Barry is.

I think Micah is.

But I think there's a few I don't think Isaac is.

I think there are a few plaths that are not afraid of her at all.

Yeah, and that have her number and that's why she's so uncomfortable around them.

God, I can't wait until we get to the wedding.

I can't wait till we get to the intervention when they're all sitting in a circle talking to her.

That's what I want to get to make her cry.

I hope that's the next week.

I hope, sorry, next week.

That's such not an a maternal impulse, but no.

But like, come on, like she needs a taste of her own medicine indeed, like really like sometimes you need to be humbled and realize, like, oh, I'm the fucking problem.

I'm wrong.

And then we get to the preview for the next couple episodes.

We have like a couple of days before the wedding, and Lydia's like, I'm not sleeping until everything is done.

She's like freaking out, and I'm like, girl, if you would have just you know, I don't waited, Yeah, you would have had time to plan and you wouldn't be so stressed.

But here we are.

We see another clip of Barry got the drip.

Barry got the riz.

He's the cool, fun dad.

I'm liking that for Barry.

I'm liking it too.

I don't mind it at all.

But you know who does mind it?

Kiss kimas Kim is bitter, you.

Can be better that Barry got the drip and Barry glowed up after your divorce, and he's looking I don't want to say he's hot because he's not.

Comparatively speaking, I.

Mean, if they were the last two people on Earth, Kim, you're losing.

But it's like she's so bitter that Barry's the fun and improving dad.

She calls him out for it.

She says that he's trying really hard to be this cool dad and not pressing hard enough on Zach for instance, and not pressing hard enough on this really quick and gay.

I do think that it's a fair criticism.

It's unfortunate that it's coming from Kim Plath because it's like, who the fuck are you to talk?

You have no credibility none, miss infidelitous, cheat ness, drunkard.

Come on.

And then we have Veronica saying that her and Micah made a pact to not leave each other's side because they're at the Plaid family farm.

I don't know if it's like the day of the wedding or maybe if it's like the rehearsal or something.

They're run up, yeah, for the wedding.

She's like, Micah made a pla packed with me to not leave my side, and now here he is getting in a truck driving off somewhere with peace, and she's gonna get all mad about it.

Deuces right, Sorry, they're on the farm and you're no fun to be around.

Nobody likes to Veronica.

I'm sorry.

Shit, Maybe that's what she meant by being abandoned on the side of the road.

Oh when she said on Reddit, yeah I got abandoned on the side of the road in Georgia on the platform.

Good maybe you deserved it.

Sorry, God, that's so mean.

She's terrible, But if she's an awful person, we're just reflecting back to her that what she is.

Okay, everything is just you pushed out so Veronica, where just you pushed out facts.

And then we did have Kim talking to Ethan about her reservations with Lydia and Zach and I don't know if this is what causes tension with Ethan because then we have the very next scene.

Ethan's like, I'm bent up, I'm full of rage.

He's gonna go throw shit around.

I'm like, what your wedding day?

What are you doing?

You're such an embarrassment.

Get therapy, look into personal development, read a fucking book on personal development.

You grow magnum Man, make fire for real.

I'm like, you are the eldest brother and you're acting like such a fucking child, throwing shit around on the farm when you're supposed to be getting shit together.

And then I think the last scene is him driving out with his old cars.

Yeah, yeah, like burning rubber in the field where she's going to be getting married.

I mean, maybe something terrible has happened, maybe somebody did something terrible to Ethan, But I don't know what anybody could do that would cause you to be so disruptive during Lydia's wedding or the run up to the wedding.

You're just an a hole dude.

You need help.

And it's like, maybe you're bitter because of your marriage.

I get it, Like I get that you might be sad that you ended up divorced at twenty five.

That's kind of a shitty thing.

I get it, But go to fucking therapy and deal with it.

I thought when you took your motorcycle trip across the country, maybe you would have mellowed out a bit, but no, you turned into a bitter, fucking angry dude throwing sit around like a total toddler.

I'm over it, man, Yeah, me too, been over it, been over it.

Yeah, well I enjoyed it though, me too.

That's such a great episode, and the tension is rising because even though Veronica is telling Micah that he can't go to the wedding, that she's not gonna go to the wedding and that he can't be around Teak, and obviously they go, they go, and we know Teaken's gonna be there, and we know Veronica won't be able to help herself, and we know there's gonna be a big violent fight between.

Isaac and Micah.

And so, girl, this is good.

I can't wait.

She's getting so good.

How are you guys liking it?

Please drop in the comments and let us know.

I know it's toxic.

I get it's very dramatic, but like, are you enjoying it like we are?

Are we just so trashy bitch?

And maybe we're so?

Maybe we're so, Maybe we're the ones.

Maybe we're just euphoric on trash.

I don't know, but I'm enjoying it.

I'm loving it.

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