It's the same can.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, October 16th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1808.

This is no agenda.

Reporting from the front lines, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country, in FEMA region number 6 in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying the same thing, recycling's a scam.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

This is Crackpot and Buzzkill.

In the morning.

Well, yeah, hello, 2000.

Recycling's a scam.

We've known this for 20 years.

Longer.

Well, not so much in California.

Oh, no, you guys are all in still, obviously.

So I'm watching, I'm looking at garbage guys go by today on Thursday.

And they're replacing all the green cans for recycling, not for recycling, but for green, you know, trimmings and stuff you put in the green can.

Yes.

So they're taking a green can and replacing it with exactly the same green can.

Well, that seems like your tax dollars at work.

Well, it's the garbage dollars at work.

All up and down the street, it's the exact same can.

They're taking the old ones, which are fairly new anyway, and they're replacing them with new ones.

It's the same can.

But that's what I'm saying.

Now, isn't that Citi who does that for you?

Or do you pay your garbage guys separately?

The garbage guys are separate.

Oh, really?

We don't have Citi's garbage now.

Well, then you should pull them aside and have a little chat with them.

I was going to go down there, but, you know, we're doing the show prepping.

I was.

I was going to ask them, what the hell's going on?

What are you doing here?

But then I got hired.

Why are you changing and swapping out a perfectly good can with another exactly the same can?

Because that way it will be reflected on your bill at the end of the month.

That's obvious.

Or at the end of the quarter.

What do you pay for garbage?

I don't know.

You don't know?

No, Mimi pays it.

Oh.

Yeah, I think we pay.

I think we pay 30 bucks a month.

Sounds similar.

Yeah.

Good guys, though, because if I forget to put the garbage can out, I can just text them.

Like, oh, I'll pick it up later.

I'll come back.

Come back later.

Pick it up on my way home.

Or if I say, you know, I got some junk here.

Yeah, OK.

Wouldn't you want me to pick it up?

That's the kind of garbage guys I like.

Oh, our garbage guys do the same thing, but I'm just not getting why they keep swapping out perfectly good cans for the exact same can.

Well, it could be some kind of environmental regulation they have to adhere to.

It's the same can.

Gotcha.

It's the same can you're irked.

I got it.

Well, I think you should have taken time.

I would gladly start the show later just to hear you argued with the garbage guys replacing the old cans with new cans.

Maybe I'll give them a call.

You should feel free.

That license should always be free and open to you to do that.

You just let me know.

So I went to the front lines yesterday.

The front line being Austin, Texas.

Oh, you went to Austin?

Why?

To get your hair done again?

Yes, to get my hair done.

But I also had a coffee with a former New York banker who I have not spoken to in quite a while.

And I've got some updates.

Did you ask him how his Goldman Sachs is doing?

Oh, crap.

I forgot about that.

Yeah.

When's Goldman going belly up?

Oh, man, I can't believe I forgot that.

Years ago.

Still waiting.

Yeah.

Well, did you short Goldman?

No.

I'm glad you didn't.

So, you know, these days he's all into AI investments.

Yeah, I'm looking at different investments.

And in particular, he's looking at financial AI investments.

And I don't know if he actually invests in anything.

He kind of looks like a hippie these days.

He kind of, you know, he's got Jesus sandals on.

He's unshaven.

His hair is long in the back.

Yeah, he sounds like an investor to me.

Exactly.

He's like one of those, well, I'm a cool investor, you see.

I'm a cool guy.

And so, he's talking.

He's, you know, like talking about how this model understands how the fold protein work.

I'm like, oh, okay.

He wants some more coffee.

But then he says, you know, these guys, most of them really don't have anything, but they have one thing.

They have a buzzword.

And, of course, I said, what's the buzzword?

Can you guess what the buzzword is?

Quantum.

Yes, you nailed it.

You nailed it.

Quantum.

He says, but they're not using quantum computers.

They're doing quantum calculations with supercomputers.

I'm like, okay.

Yeah, okay.

Right.

Exactly.

Yeah, that makes sense.

But then, and this kind of folds into the talk with my hair lady.

So, he is, let's see if I can say this without revealing his identity.

He does a lot for nonprofits and art stuff.

Let's leave it at art stuff.

And so, he's helping one of these art stuff things with their finances.

I think a secretary or something.

Yes, he's a Democrat, but he's, you know, he's not an idiot, obviously.

He still wants to talk to me.

I'm sure he's getting as much information from me as I am from him.

And he says that these people are all in a tizzy because they were trying to schedule their ICE training.

What is that supposed to mean?

Literally training for what to do when ICE comes.

To take away their brown people, I guess.

To take away the paintings.

No, but think about it.

This is how insane it's gotten in Austin.

They're training at art institutions just in case ICE comes.

Well, that's the ludicrous part.

To take away their brown people.

Yeah, but, and so, but this was only accentuated.

So, I'm sitting there with my hair lady.

You know, and we're catching up.

I love listening to her.

No, she's the one telling you about this?

No, no, that was the former New York banker who told me about the ICE training.

Yeah, okay, so you're with the hair lady now.

Yeah, so I'm with the hair lady.

And, you know, we do our usual, like, TV shows.

What are you watching?

You know, chit-chatting about the dogs and stuff.

And she's from Syrian descent.

I say, how about this?

Shhh.

She goes, what's wrong?

No, we can't talk politics.

Politics?

Have you seen what's happening?

This is your homeland.

There's, like, there's shifts.

Shhh.

I got pulled aside the other day.

I said, well, what happened?

Well, you know, it was, to be honest, I also said that I had watched the Charlie Kirk Memorial.

And I got pulled aside, and they said, you know, because she rents a chair.

Yeah, that's what you do.

Yeah, she says, well, you know, we're not so sure that you're right for us because we have a feeling you're turning MAGA.

I mean, this is.

You're turning MAGA.

You're turning MAGA.

So get out.

I mean, you combine that.

Get away from our generalized acceptance of all people.

We're so liberal.

We're so progressive.

We accept everybody.

So get out.

Yeah, but you see, this is the problem is because, of course, we're laughing about this, and we're calling them nuts, and they're calling us nuts.

And I think we're prime now.

We're prime in the United States in one of these cities, not Austin, probably Chicago.

We're prime for some kind of incident to take place that's going to set a lot of people off, and it's going to be messy.

If you listen to the insane pushback because people have been so propagandized about ICE.

Well, ICE is putting six-year-olds in zip ties, arresting people naked.

But I'm hearing this from all over my liberal friendscape.

Yeah, that's what they've been told.

They have been told this, and they completely believe it based upon TikTok videos and Instagram reels and guest stuff on X.

I don't know.

I haven't been on Blue Sky in a while.

Nobody knows.

Yeah, but you're laughing, but it's really— I am laughing, and I will continue to laugh.

It's getting out of hand.

Tonight, tensions rising as the Trump administration's sweeping immigration crackdown expands.

In the last 24 hours, federal agents clashing with residents in Chicago.

As some protesters threw objects, federal agents deployed tear gas on crowds angry about the latest arrest that ended with a crash in their neighborhood.

Illinois' governor, who's repeatedly said he did not ask for federal help, accusing immigration agents of using strong-arm tactics.

They're the ones who are tossing tear gas when people are peacefully protesting.

They need to back off.

Homeland Security officials say it all began with agents chasing an undocumented migrant who they say had rammed a Border Patrol vehicle.

Agents then crashing into the vehicle to stop it.

New video shows that the chase then spilling over into a Walgreens, where 19-year-old Warren King says he was shopping.

He says when he tried to leave the store, he was tackled.

He's a citizen!

He's a citizen!

You don't know what's going on, so get the f*** back!

He was just saying, why are you running?

I'm telling them I'm a U.S.

citizen, I'm here, I'm legal, I'm born here.

So, they didn't try to hear none of that, though.

Community leaders today blasting federal agents.

Not only undocumented people are being targeted, but also people of color are being racially profiled by these unjust actions.

And today, the Chicago woman who was shot by federal agents after allegedly ramming her car into their vehicle, today pleading not guilty to assault.

Marimar Martinez seen in this video in the moments leading up to that alleged ramming.

Prosecutors say she was part of a convoy tailing those agents.

David, in a sign of increasing tensions, L .A.

officials are declaring a state of emergency, saying they will offer undocumented migrants financial and legal support as this deportation campaign expands.

I gotta hand it to you, I mean, for all their beliefs, they are completely all in, and like, ICE are Nazis, ICE are, they're criminal themselves, there's no background checks, these people are crooks, they're no good, they take great pleasure in hunting people down.

And so, what are they doing?

They're using their cars, they're using all kinds of things to get in the way of what ICE is doing.

And it's gonna turn ugly.

It's so, you know, have we not been preconditioned for this with that stupid movie, Civil War?

I mean, it seems like all of this is just happening.

And now it's only in select cities near you.

But man, this is a tinderbox.

And now we're gonna have that No Kings, after it didn't work last time, we're gonna try No Kings again on, what is it, Saturday?

Yeah, this coming Saturday.

Yeah.

I tuned into their...

What happened to Blackout, by the way?

Well, no, Blackout...

Was to shut the country down.

Wasn't there supposed to be something else coming up too that was supposed to shut the country down, they crapped out?

No, I think No Kings is supposed to be the big one.

And I tuned into their live webcast.

They got a pastor.

They got all kinds of very big organizations now behind this.

Democracy Forward, who have, they got a lot of money.

One of the Walmart heirs that's putting a lot of money behind this.

People should take note.

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

I don't feel good about it.

My spidey sense is telling me no good.

And then, of course, we have the worst, the worst Democrat ever.

The worst one is John Fetterman.

I'm the only Democrat in my family.

I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania.

And I grew up, and I know and I love people that voted for President Trump.

But they are not fascists.

They're not Nazis.

They're not trying to destroy the Constitution and those things.

And that's part of another thing.

I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists.

I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things.

And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue.

We're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things like Charlie Kirk.

For me, all I can say is let people grieve.

Give people the space.

I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that pastic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views.

It's like my God.

He's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet.

And now people have forgotten.

President Trump was in my state was shot in the head.

And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way with Kirk?

We really got to turn the temperature down.

And we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things.

But right now, shutting down the government, I just can't take a bet.

By the way, he wasn't eating Doritos.

That was his stupid hoodie rubbing up against the microphone.

But wow, he needs a bodyguard.

He's got to be careful with that crazy talk.

He's just an atypical Democrat.

Well, that's what an old Democrat used to be.

I'm so amazed by this guy.

You know, we thought he was a moron.

And all of his speech issues are all gone.

Some people recover from strokes properly.

He did.

It's unusual, but it does happen more often.

But it's kind of telling when he had the stroke and he talked like an idiot.

It's like, oh, yeah, he's our guy.

Well, that's when the Democrats liked him.

Now that he's normal, they don't like him so much.

That's my point.

That's my point.

So, yeah.

This is interesting.

We'll see.

It's just, you know, false flags.

It'd be easy to kick something off.

What's a few people to take down the orange man?

Because, you know, you're turning MAGA.

Well, I feel bad about your hairdresser.

Oh, me too.

She loves that place.

She doesn't want to leave there, but she can't.

And funny enough, she says it's mainly because of conversations I have with you and the former New York banker because he goes there as well.

So she's having conversations with probably a conservative, more conservative liberal.

And I guess I'm conservative.

Christian.

Woo.

That's probably the problem right there.

And now she's, you're turning MAGA.

Your conversations are not appropriate for the workplace.

Should have stabbed her.

That's not a very nice thing to say.

So, but talking about nice things to say, when you started off talking about AI, or not AI, but yeah, AI.

I did?

It brought me to these clips.

Did you hear Tucker?

I didn't say anything about AI.

What did I say about AI?

You're just making it up to get to your clips.

Yeah, you did.

You talked about the banker investing in AI.

Oh, that.

Oh, okay.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

You're right.

You're right.

And quantum.

Yes.

I was talking about quantum, man.

I'm ahead of AI.

I'm already where, I'm skating where the puck is going.

Did you hear Tucker with the guy that had a chat GPT?

Yeah, this came out a couple weeks ago, didn't it?

I don't know when it came out.

A few weeks ago.

I'm surprised he hasn't been sued over this.

Yeah.

Oh, you're talking about the murder stuff?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's it.

I'm glad you got these clips because I didn't get them at the time.

Like, yeah.

I thought you'd probably be annoyed by them.

Why would I be annoyed?

Because it's AI.

I always like to document slander.

Because it's AI.

I don't know.

I thought you wouldn't like it.

I like AI.

All right.

Well, let's do these clips then.

Let me set it up.

What happened was Tucker had his Altman's mom.

Not his mom, but Altman's.

The guy who died into Altman's company.

Yeah, she was on Tucker months ago.

Yeah, she was on Tucker and she accused Altman of setting up a hit.

I don't believe that's true.

But it was a pretty good triggering mechanism for Tucker to accuse him of murder.

In so many words.

Yes.

In so many words.

Yeah.

Okay.

He didn't.

And he backs off every time.

No, I'm not.

I'm not accusing you of anything.

However, he did die and he said you did it.

There was a note and a candlestick in the other room.

Yeah.

There's no note.

That's one of the keys.

Yeah.

That's always a bad sign.

A bad sign of it being a suicide.

Because I guess, I don't know.

Do 100% of the people that commit suicide leave a going away note?

I don't know.

A lot do.

They seem to claim that.

So I broke it up into four segments.

And I thought it was actionable.

Well, hold on a second.

You thought it was actionable when I said that your son-in-law was a deadbeat.

I mean, there's actionable and actionable.

Yeah, I think that was actionable.

I had to place a retraction.

Yeah, you did.

I wasn't getting sued for slander.

Tucker does a kind of an on the fly retraction.

He plays a game.

Yeah.

He plays a game.

He never laughed during the whole thing.

Oh, there you go.

And I'm surprised Altman did the interview.

What was the point?

Are people that hard up for attention that they, especially a guy like Altman, that they'd go on Tucker after knowing that this is going to happen?

Well, I think that Altman is so detached from reality that if someone says, hey, man, there's a movement against you that he'll say, okay, I'll take care of it.

I'll do an interview with Tucker.

That could be.

Yeah, even though that's had no legs until he did the interview as far as I'm concerned.

I agree.

Here we go.

So you've had complaints from one programmer who said you guys were basically stealing people's stuff and not paying them.

And then he wound up murdered.

What was that?

Also a great tragedy.

He committed suicide.

Do you think he committed suicide?

I really do.

This was like a friend of mine.

This is like a guy that, not a close friend, but this is someone that worked at OpenAI for a very long time.

I spent, I was really shaken by this tragedy.

I spent a lot of time trying to read everything I could, as I'm sure you and others did too, about what happened.

It looks like a suicide to me.

Why does it look like a suicide?

It was a gun he had purchased.

It was the, this is like gruesome to talk about, but I read the whole medical record.

Does it not look like one to you?

No, he was definitely murdered, I think.

There were signs of a struggle, of course.

The surveillance camera, the wires had been cut.

Oh, no.

He had just ordered takeout food, come back from a vacation with his friends on Catalina Island.

No indication at all that he was suicidal.

No note and no behavior.

He had just spoken to a family member on the phone.

And then he's found dead with blood in multiple rooms.

So that's impossible.

It seems really obvious he was murdered.

Have you talked to the authorities about it?

I have not talked to the authorities about it.

Okay, so now I remember what bothered me about the interview.

First of all, I think this is, if I recall correctly, the only time you mentioned what the accusation was, was right at the very beginning.

And that's the most interesting piece.

I'm sorry for this guy and his family, but you're stealing stuff and not paying for it.

That's the big one right there.

And then he goes on to say, you know, I spent a lot of time reading about this.

You have a Chad GPT.

You got Chad GPT 7.0.

Dude, wouldn't you just let your AI tell you what's going on?

That's funny.

Just a thought.

Stealing.

Yeah, this is the guy.

And he had documentation.

He had a lot of documentation, apparently, about basically copyright theft.

Yeah, well, I mean, all the AI companies are doing copyright theft.

But it depends on what your definition of copyright theft is and how it's interpreted and how fair use comes into play and how much is being regurgitated.

Well, do we need to remind ourselves of the Microsoft guy?

Why don't you remind us?

It was, here he goes.

The AI CEO, Mustafa Suleyman.

With respect to content that is already on the open Web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use.

Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it.

That has been freeware, if you like.

That's been the understanding.

There's a separate category where a Web site or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content.

That's a gray area, and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

So just a quick side note.

It's not a gray area.

It's called Creative Commons.

I sued in court over it and was the first one to win a copyright lawsuit using Creative Commons.

And all our stuff has Creative Commons in it.

So, no.

But that's the general thinking in Silicon Valley.

It's a contract.

It's a social contract.

His whole logic is wrong, including the copyright fair use thing.

Just because you post it, the way the copyright laws were rewritten some years, but then I think the era of the show, they were rewritten in such a way that you don't need to put a copyright notice on anything.

Oh, is that it?

Yeah.

Automatically copyrighted.

You write it, it's yours.

Done.

Yeah.

We used to think you had to send it to yourself in a sealed envelope.

Well, that or you had to send it to the Library of Congress.

Congress, yeah.

You had to register it.

You had to put the copyright notice.

No.

None of that's true.

And so, but if you're going to scrape everything, I mean, Google, for example, is the, way before AI, they were taking, stealing entire web pages and putting them on their search database.

And so the entire web was basically, Google had a copy of it.

And then they would search that for your search results.

And then there would be excerpts.

Or in the early days, you could actually go and take a look at their cache.

Oh, yeah.

The cache.

Which is a copy of.

They don't have that anymore?

They don't have the cache on Google?

You know, I'm always looking for it once in a while.

I don't know what the status of the cache is anymore, but it's not like it used to be.

Meanwhile, the guy who's actually a non-profit and is trying to do this for good with archive.org is getting sued to kingdom come.

Yeah, he's being sued left and right, including being sued over his collection of 78s.

Right now, archive.org has probably the biggest collection of 78 recordings, which are always, which is kind of all passed into the public domain.

And for all kinds of different reasons, because the copy written material was always, used to have a thing in the 30s, where the songs could be played on the radio, but they were protected by a performance type.

It was like, instead of at copyright, it would be at performance.

And there were performance rights that were owned by the record labels, and that's what these records constituted, were performances.

And it's just a very gray area.

And for years, it's always been assumed that these old 78s from the 20s and 30s were all, you could play them without having to worry about anything.

And so he made a huge collection of them, and some record company's got some hair up their ass about it.

This is valuable!

And it's not valuable, it's a joke.

I mean, I love these old 78s, especially during the era of the dance band and jazz era of the early 30s.

And when you go on archive.org, because you know of a song, you go to pick it up, and novelty songs were also quite popular.

You go there and you look at it, and it's got Bing Crosby's song from 1932, and you look at it.

Yeah, it's a toe-tapper.

It would usually be a toe-tapper.

And you would look at it, and it would say, played twice.

Oh, yeah, because when you played it, it would degrade the quality of the disc, certainly those 78s.

No, no, no, I'm talking about being played on archive.org.

Oh, oh, huge copyright violation.

Two people listened to it.

Yeah, two people downloaded or listened to it.

And it was you doing a browser refresh, basically.

Yeah, it was probably me.

Both times.

And so many of these have been cleaned up by experts, and some of them are remarkably nice.

I mean, you can play them.

The real collectors, I knew a couple of collectors.

George Morrow of the Morrow Microcomputer was a collector of 78s.

Jim Watt, a very famous DJ in the Bay Area, was a collector of 78s, and I knew these guys.

And they would normally try to find pristine 78s that they'd find here and there, and they'd never play them, except once.

Yeah, that's like my Prince picture disc.

I won't play that either.

Yeah, because it does degrade, because of the needle.

But once it's put into a digital form, then you can start messing with it and fixing it and making it sound even better.

But the point is that nobody's listening to this stuff, but he's getting sued over it anyway.

All right, back to the death case.

Part two.

And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders.

Do you believe that?

You just said it.

Hold on a second.

Hold on a second.

I just realized, looking at the troll room, there's an entire generation that went over their head.

So 78s, they're small records?

No, no, people don't know about 33 and a third RPM, 45 RPM, 78 RPM.

Yeah, yeah.

Wait until we hit the troll room count.

We just lost half of the audience.

What are they talking about 78s?

I don't get it.

Meanwhile, the guy's getting sued.

And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders.

Do you believe that?

You just said it, so do you believe that?

I think that it is worth looking into.

I mean, if a guy comes out and accuses your company of committing crimes, I have no idea if that's true or not, of course.

And then is found killed, and there are signs of a struggle.

I don't think it's worth dismissing it.

I don't think we should say, well, he killed himself when there's no evidence that the guy was depressed at all.

I think, and if he was your friend, I would think you would want to speak to his mom.

I did offer.

She didn't want to.

So do you feel that, you know, when people look at that and they're like, you know, it's possible that happened, do you feel that that reflects the worries they have about what's happening here?

Like people are afraid that this is like...

I've done too many interviews where I've been accused of like...

I'm not accusing you at all.

His mother says that.

I don't think a fair read of the evidence suggests suicide at all.

I just don't see that at all.

And I also don't understand why the authorities, when there are signs of a struggle and blood in two rooms on a suicide, like how does that actually happen?

I don't understand how the authorities could just kind of dismiss that as a suicide.

I think it's weird.

This is how Tucker makes two hour long interviews.

Yeah.

Now I have to, my thinking on this is that a guy who steals a bunch of documents from a company he's working for, which is somewhat larcenous, even though it's to prove a crime, is probably getting himself into trouble in other areas just by his nature, which I think could account for his, and it probably was murdered, but not necessarily by Altman's people because Altman...

No, you never want it tied back to you.

He gets one of those...

But why would you even care?

It's just like you're so cavalier anyway about stealing copyrighted material, and you heard the guy from Microsoft that it's like, okay, well, yeah, okay.

They proved that we took some copyrighted material.

Yeah, they could have discredited him, called him a thief, a liar, a cheat.

Yeah, there's a lot of ways to go.

A lot of things he could have done, but that's not Tucker's style, man.

We got to go for, I think you killed him.

I think you had him killed.

I think you had him killed.

You understand how this sounds like an accusation?

Of course.

Let me just be clear once again, I'm not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but I...

I think it's worth finding out what happened, and I don't understand why the city of San Francisco has refused to investigate it beyond just calling it a suicide.

I mean, I think they looked into it a couple of times, more than once, as I understand it.

I saw the...

and I will totally say, when I first heard about this, it sounded very suspicious.

Yes, yes.

And I know you had been involved in...

His mother reached out...

...to the case.

And I don't know anything about it.

It's not my world.

She just reached out cold?

Wow, wow.

And I spoke to her at great length, and it scared the crap out of me.

The kid was clearly killed by somebody.

That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game.

And after reading the latest report?

Yes.

Stop it, stop it, because I didn't catch this the first time.

Why would it scare the crap out of him?

Well, that's a good question.

A borderline great question, but it's a good question.

I don't know why it would scare the crap out of him.

But I think that Tucker just does that for effect.

You know, he's so shocked.

He's shocked by everything.

Shocking.

Yeah, that could be.

It scared the crap out of me.

It's Tucker.

It's shocking.

Look, I'm never getting invited on his podcast, so I might as well just say he's weird.

She reached out cold?

Wow, wow.

And I spoke to her at great length, and it scared the crap out of me.

The kid was clearly killed by somebody.

That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game.

And after reading the latest report?

I immediately called a member of Congress from California, Ro Khanna, and said, this is crazy.

You've got to look into this.

And nothing ever happened.

Do you do that, John?

Do you immediately call your member of Congress?

I call him, and nothing ever happens.

It's the same thing.

I'm on the same league.

I immediately called a member of Congress.

Let me get on the speed dial.

Let me call Ro Khanna.

And I'm like, what is that?

Again, I feel strange and sad debating this.

I'm not even debating it.

But this was like a wonderful person, and a family that is clearly struggling.

Yes.

And I think you can totally take the point that you're just trying to get to the truth of what happened.

And I respect that.

Oh, no.

Silicon Valley.

How many times have we heard people talk like this?

Yes.

Basically saying, F you, Tucker.

That's Silicon Valley speak.

I can totally see the point that you're coming at, and I totally respect that, but Silicon Valley talk for F off.

I think his memory and his family deserve to be treated with a level of respect and grief that I don't quite feel here.

I'm asking at the behest of his family.

So I'm definitely showing them respect.

Oh, yes.

I'm here representing the family and Ro Khanna.

And I'm not accusing you of any involvement in this at all.

What I am saying is that the evidence does not suggest suicide.

The ability to elide past that and ignore the evidence that any reasonable person would say adds up to a murder, I think is very weird.

And it shakes the faith that one has in our system's ability to respond to the facts.

OK, so Tucker's going after conspiracy here because he believes that the city of San Francisco is in on it and doesn't want to rock the boat with the big Silicon Valley company.

And that's where he's coming from.

I guess that's what he's trying to prove.

But is open AI even in San Francisco?

Or is that that wasn't on the peninsula?

I don't know.

The peninsula.

What is the peninsula?

The peninsula is where everything is.

It's not in San Francisco, per se.

No, it's San Mateo.

Yeah, San Mateo.

You just look it up?

No, I used to go there all the time to visit a-holes like this.

Sorry, Ray Lane.

You were OK.

It's further than San Mateo.

Sand Hill Road, baby.

You get to Palo Alto.

Palo Alto is pretty much the center.

Yeah.

All right.

All right, so let's wrap it up with this guy.

But this was still baffling to me why Tucker did this at all.

He's like the white knight or trying to embarrass this guy.

How about this?

He is committed to creating X amount of content for his advertisers and content is inventory and he's always looking for something to do.

How about that?

Is that a crazy thought?

He had Alex Jones on the other day for two and a half hours.

He's desperate for content and he likes talking to people and most of the time it's entertaining.

This I didn't think was one of them but I understand where you're coming from with these clips and I'm glad you got them.

So what I was going to say is after the first set of information that came out, I was really like, man, this doesn't look like a suicide.

I'm confused.

Okay, so I'm not being crazy here at all.

But then after the second thing came out and the more detail, I was like, okay.

What changed your mind?

The second report on the way the bullet entered him and the sort of person who had followed the sort of likely path of things through the room.

I assume you looked at this too.

It just didn't make any sense to me.

Why would the security camera virus be cut?

And how did he wind up bleeding in two rooms after shooting himself?

And why was there a wig in the room that wasn't his?

And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication or the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food?

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Could this be a trans thing going on here?

What kind of wig?

What was this with the wig?

The wig is interesting.

And so he throws the wig in at the last second there, which he could have done at the beginning when he has the laundry list.

Yes.

And the wig that wasn't his.

This is Tucker doing T.C.

Owen.

You know, this is true crime.

True crime really.

Hey, Tucker, true crime really gets ratings, man.

Oh, okay.

Well, then I'll have the family on.

I'll abuse them and then I'll go and I'll get into you with Altman and then I'll paint it on him and it'll be true crime and we'll get lots of clicks.

You know, you might be as glib as you are about that commentary right there.

You might be onto something.

I listen to Tucker's podcast and it's interrupted frequently by ads.

It's very annoying.

You know, most podcasts aren't.

They just, they're talking like, so you don't think that this was, gold is the way to go, everybody.

Have you seen the price of gold?

It's over $4,000.

No, instead, you just chop right in the middle.

It's like, well, you know, I'm eating these fantastic chips.

You know what they're made with?

They're made with, with tallow, beef tallow and potato.

And I have a garage full.

They're great.

Followed by, there's a new kind of dog food.

It's not farmer's dog.

No, I got the competition here.

These guys are better than farmer's dog.

Do you like nicotine?

I love nicotine.

I love these pouches.

It's good for you.

Nicotine is healthy.

It's good.

And I use it all the time.

Can you tell?

I mean, who, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself?

I mean, maybe I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter.

No.

Oh, there we go.

By the way, people don't like it when we slam other podcasters.

Just so you know, they don't like it.

They're like, man, you're shooting inside the tent, man.

Don't do that.

I've heard of anything like that.

Well, wait.

Yes.

Yes, it's true.

Because I started doing this.

We do media deconstruction.

Yeah, I tried that.

We consider podcasts part of the media landscape.

I'm just, yes, I'm in agreement with you.

I'm just letting you know when I started doing that because people were saying, hey, man.

Well, you were kind of in that camp early on, I'd say about 15 years ago when I started doing some slams against certain podcasts, you kind of pushed back.

We were building an industry, bro.

Okay, you got me there.

And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication at all that the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food?

I mean, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself?

I mean, maybe.

I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter.

I've never heard of anything like that.

So, no, I was even more confused.

This is where it gets into, I think, a little bit painful, just not the level of respect I'd hope to show to someone with this kind of mental health.

I get it.

I totally get it.

People do commit suicide without notes a lot.

Like, that happens.

For sure.

People definitely order food they like before they commit suicide.

Like, this is an incredible tragedy.

What?

That's his family's view, and they think it was a murder, and that's why I'm asking the question.

If I were his family, I am sure I would want answers, and I'm sure I would not be satisfied with really any.

I mean, there's nothing that would comfort me in that, you know?

Right.

So, I get it.

Right.

I also care a lot about respect to him.

Right.

Okay.

All right.

Your conclusion?

Your takeaway from this series?

Pretty much this is your conclusion, which is Tucker's just filling his air, but I think he's opening himself up for some action.

Nah.

From open AI?

Nah.

Well, maybe, maybe not, but if I was this guy, if I was Altman, I'd sue him.

Nah.

For innuendo.

It's just, it makes him look like...

He's got other things to do, man.

Have you been up and following the news?

...trillions of dollars?

You know, maybe.

Well, he's not collecting anything.

He's spending it.

Well, yeah.

Have you, I'm sure you've heard the latest.

He's enjoying life.

This is the big news.

Wow.

Hey, listen, he wakes up every morning, he looks in the mirror, and he's Sam Altman, so I don't know if he's enjoying life.

I'm not so sure.

But the big news...

He's probably got five hookers in the room.

Well, the big news is this.

ChatGPT will soon be able to write erotica for adults.

This update was announced by OpenAI boss, Sam Altman, who said users who verified their ages would be able to access a wider range of content.

He said OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, had previously made the chatbot pretty restrictive and that it was less useful slash enjoyable for users with no mental health problems, but new tools meant those restrictions could soon be relaxed.

OpenAI was sued earlier this year by the parents of US teen Adam Rain, who took his own life.

The lawsuit showed that Adam had discussed his suicidal thoughts with the chatbot.

In a statement given at the time, OpenAI told the BBC it was reviewing the filing.

Both in the UK and the US, there's concerns about what this update will mean for child safety.

Written erotica does not require an age verification in the UK under the Online Safety Act, and in the US, there's calls for more regulation at all levels.

OpenAI did not respond to our request for comment.

That was from the BBC.

Um, so this is interesting because as we've identified, it's the only product people actually want and will pay for.

Like, yeah, I want a sexy chatbot.

Elon led the way with his, uh, Annie.

Annie?

Yeah, Annie.

And now Altman's going all in.

Here's what he posted on X.

We made, uh, we made, uh, should I do it with Altman?

It'd take me forever to do it like Altman.

We made ChatGPT pretty restrictive to make sure we were being careful with mental health issues.

We realized this made it less useful and enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems.

Dude, 90% of people have mental health problems, but okay.

But given the seriousness of this issue, we wanted to get this right.

Now that we've been able to mitigate the serious mental health issues and have new tools, we are going to be able to safely relax the restrictions in most cases.

In a few weeks, we plan to put out a new version of ChatGPT, new version coming, upgrade, that allows people to have a person, allows people to have a personality that behaves more like what people liked about 4 .0.

We hope it will be better!

Exclamation mark.

If you want your ChatGPT to respond in a very human-like way, or use a ton of emoji, or act like a friend, ChatGPT should do it.

But only if you want it, not because we are usage maxing.

This is a new term.

In December...

What is it?

Usage maxing.

Which I think is code for making it addictive.

I guess it is.

It would make sense.

In December, as we roll out age gating more fully, and as a part of our treat adult users like adults principle, we will allow even more, like Erotica, for verified adults.

Erotica.

Erotica.

Erotica.

Something makes me itch.

What a term.

And this leads me to...

Actually, it was a note from Sir Hoopin Socker.

And he says, first off, I'm not bothered.

Okay, whenever I know...

At the opening like that, I'm like, okay.

Oh yeah, it's a giveaway.

I'm not bothered by your and John's irritation with video podcasts.

Well, hold on.

I don't think we're irritated by video podcasts, are we?

I watch them all the time.

Yeah.

He said, we don't want to do one.

Yeah, there's a big difference between being irritated by them and wanting to do one, which is that they're a pain in the ass and they don't really deliver the goods.

Well, well, hold on a second because he says, and I respect your take as the creator, which I'm like, what?

It's capital T, capital C.

But as a perspective, most of us are visual learners.

I can't even listen to audio books because my attention wanders after a few minutes and I have to rewind, whereas even if it's just two dorks sitting across the desk from each other, the visual component keeps me engaged.

I listen to almost every No Agenda episode three times and the only Rogan episode I've watched more than once are the Jordan Peterson episodes.

They are idea dense.

I learn and remember better with the insipid video element.

Now, I replied to him, I said, hey man, I'm sorry, that sucks that all this video has disabled your learning ability.

I didn't even say it like that.

That's what he meant.

Yeah, I was nicer than that and he took offense to it, of course.

I said, I didn't mean any offense.

You meant offense.

Well, the reason why...

You're an offensive guy in a very subtle way.

No, I'm not.

So...

But this leads me to a story from a great sub-stack which is titled Everything is Television.

Well, wait, let's get back to what he...

No, no, I'm getting to it.

I'm getting to it.

Oh, you're going to do a weave.

Okay.

I'm going to go back.

I'm weaving, baby.

Yes, we'll come right back to it.

So, this leads me to a sub-stack that I was reading from Derek Thompson, Everything is Television.

And he cites and links to a filing by Meta in an antitrust case with the Federal Trade Commission about them being a social media monopoly.

And there's a lot of other things happening, age verification, all the app stores because we have an app with Godcaster.

All the app stores are now saying, hey, get ready.

We're going to have an age verification API.

There's all kinds of age verification stuff coming.

I'm sure Meta doesn't like it.

And here's what they filed.

Only a small share of time spent on our social networking platform are truly social networking.

That is time spent checking in with friends and family.

More than 80% of the time on Facebook and more than 90% of the time on Instagram is spent watching videos.

So they literally say, today, this is the filing, only a fraction of time spent on Meta services, 7% on Instagram and 17 % on Facebook, involves consuming content from online friends.

A majority of time spent on both apps is watching videos, increasingly short form videos that are unconnected, i.e.

not from a friend or followed account and recommended by AI-powered algorithms Meta developed as a direct competitive response to TikTok's rise, which stalls Meta's growth.

And when I read that, I'm like, well, this explains why we're all becoming idiots.

We're just sitting there, we're not even using Facebook for Facebook anymore.

It's just doom scrolling all day long.

Yeah, yeah.

This is...

We have a number of our top-notch, well-known producers that seem to be doing this.

So, which brings me to a No Agenda classic book, Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman.

Although he was writing about television, it's kind of interesting to go back and look what he wrote.

He said, each medium, like language itself, makes possible a unique mode of discourse by providing a new orientation for thought, for expression and for sensibility.

Television speaks to us in a particular dialect.

When everything turns into television, every form of communication starts to adopt television's values, immediacy, emotion, spectacle and brevity.

Now, I would say, you know, that's hyperspeed now with these short-form videos.

In the glow of a local news program or outraged news feed now, the viewer bathes in a vat of their own cortisol.

When everything is urgent, nothing is truly important.

Politics becomes theater, science becomes storytelling, news becomes performance.

The result, a society that forgets how to think in paragraphs and learns instead to think in scenes.

And when I read that, re-read that, I thought, podcasting the way we do it is actually fantastic.

It's good for you.

It's healthy.

It trains you to pay attention to something.

You can actually do other things like walking outside.

Gardening.

Gardening.

Yes, thank you.

You can do all kinds of, watering the lawn, mowing the lawn, you know, just walking while you're listening to a podcast.

And yes, your thoughts may wander a bit, but you'll have, you'll be learning something.

And it's just, it's a sad state when the whole world, because look at the MAU, the monthly average users and the TAM of all of these social media sites, including X, I'm sure, it's just all people scrolling videos from people they don't even know or care to know.

And now with Sora too, everything is like, oh, I don't even know if that's real.

I don't care.

My brain's fried.

So to Sir Hoop and Socker, I think it's a great opportunity to try.

Try to just listen to no agenda.

And how many times people, you're missing the boat.

No.

All we'd have is people getting little clips, little clips of us, you know, two old dudes with cans and microphones.

Oh, look at those guys.

Boy, that guy's got a tick.

Oh, okay.

What did they just say?

Oh, outrage.

No, no, we can't share, we can't share audio.

No, I don't want you to share audio.

It's good for you to just sit there and listen to something.

Audiobooks are still pretty popular.

So luckily, they're very popular.

Luckily, there's a lot of people who drive your car while listening to them.

Well, you can drive your car while listening to a podcast.

Of course.

Yeah.

All this is good.

So I was just thinking, this is good.

And then, then the news comes yesterday that Spotify and Netflix have now made a deal where Spotify video podcasts will now be streaming on Netflix.

Who wants that?

He said famously, okay, clip it everybody because maybe this will be a huge success, but I don't see it.

So these, like all of the Ringer podcasts, some of them I think are just Zoom calls.

Okay.

They're taking them off YouTube because of course, this is about YouTube being the boss.

And they're going to now have them streaming on Netflix.

I don't know.

What do you think?

I'm not going to watch it.

No, I know you're not going to watch it.

I was just wondering what you thought.

I don't care for it.

But you know, if they want to do it, it's more distribution.

It's probably good for the, for the podcaster.

You want to call it a podcast or the video presentation.

By the way, you have an invitation.

I was on the gold guns and goats podcast, which I think comes out tomorrow.

And I'm a big fan.

Is it about gold?

Gold guns and goats.

Actually, I've been listening.

It's about guns and goats?

Yes.

Do they talk about eating goats?

No.

What the hell?

Okay.

So I've gotten a lot of my education on stable coin from them.

The North Sea Nexus stuff.

They've been very helpful.

What am I hearing?

Oh, scam likely.

And Tom Luongo, who's been around for a long time, he is a huge John C.

Dvorak fan.

Oh, good for him.

And in fact, he's like, you know, when John started talking about pipelines, I'm like, dude.

Oh, okay.

So that was you, wasn't it?

Yes.

I'd like to get credited for some of these things.

I let you have it.

I didn't say anything.

I'm like, it's okay.

Yeah.

You would have sounded like a little baby.

Yeah.

Well, yes, exactly.

I see.

I'm not defensive.

Maybe he set you up to do that.

I don't think so.

I don't know.

Maybe he's one of those guys who is good at it.

Anyway, I said that I would be more than happy to make the introduction.

And I'd be glad to do the show.

Sure.

Because I think you'll, I think you'll really enjoy it.

They get really deep in financial stuff and yeah, I think you'll enjoy it.

So, okay.

I'll make that connection.

Tom will be, we'll be delighted.

You're a big, big Dvorak fan.

I'm like, why am I even on this podcast?

You want John, you don't want me.

It was obvious.

Uh, then I'm sorry.

You didn't do the weave.

You didn't go back to the point I'm trying to make earlier that you interrupted me.

You said you're going to do the weave and now you're off to something new.

I just can't.

Hey, you saw me.

Well, we've me back.

We've me back.

Where are we going?

You don't remember what it was.

Yeah, I do.

Okay.

It was that guy.

It was bitching and moaning to you in the letter.

Yeah.

And we went into, went into the whole, I did the whole thing.

I did the whole thing about the video because I had stuff to say about the letter.

That was that point of the week.

I'm sorry.

I got execute.

I, the weave that I screwed up on the weave with a bad stitch for podcast invite for you.

I'm sorry.

Well, here's okay.

Well, that's fine and dandy, but here's what, here's the point I was going to make about this guy and his complaint.

He said in his letter that he has to listen to the podcast three times.

What more do you want?

I mean, this is like, if you got to listen three times, that means you're listening three times.

That's nine hours of listening to, because our material must be so good that you feel obliged to listen to it three whole times.

You kidding me?

We've had other people say, you guys suck.

I had to listen to your podcast three times.

It's just, it's, it seems like he's missing the point.

The podcast is so good that you can listen to it three times.

I always wonder if people really do that when they say that.

I, I, I, it's a lot of time.

It's a whole day.

It's a day's work.

I mean, where does he have time to watch a video podcast?

He's listening to 18 hours a week of our show.

Yeah.

Well, I, I agree.

It's probably bull crap, but anyway, but he did say it.

But my point was, and by the way, another point I was going to make in the weave was that one of the things that we both, you and I both have noticed doing it.

Audio only is that you become attuned.

And I think you prove this really to an extreme, probably about six months ago when you played a Gavin Newsome clip where Newsome's wiggling his shoulders and he's moving his hands all around and you don't really hear him.

Yeah.

When you just, what did I pick up?

I don't remember what I picked up.

It was something that he was saying that it was not, it was, it was covered up by all his gyrations.

He's always wiggling around.

Like he's got the ants in his pants and he, and when you just listen, which is one of the reasons that we've, we talked about this on the show before when you, we listened and produced these audio clips.

We catch a lot that we hadn't even caught when we were clipping it.

You don't catch stuff if you're looking.

And in fact, I remember like 10 years ago, I used to do all these clips from, from TV shows and it was like, I think they were called bad acting or something.

Here's the troll room.

Yeah.

But with video we can see that Newsome's a fag.

Okay.

Well there's that.

There's that.

Yeah.

Well there is that, but the point is, the point is, is that you get when somebody says something, you don't need to be distracted by their magician act where they're moving this and that.

They're doing, they're trying to distract from what they're actually saying.

The distraction.

Yeah, it's true.

Absolutely true.

So it's, it's denser in content to do it without the, the video is just, it's kind of cool if you want to be on TV.

Right.

Right.

Which neither of us have any aspirations for at this point in our lives.

No, I'm too old.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm too old now too.

Don't you see?

You can still do it.

Dude, you sit in that barber chair.

Why do barbers always have the worst mirrors ever?

You just look old and decrepit.

And I'm like, is that really me?

That's because you're using mercury for the reflective material instead of silver.

Does that mean it's more accurate?

No, it means it's more, it's higher in the blue range.

And it's, it's a more like daylight and soft light.

Oh, this is a Kelvin.

It's the Kelvin that, that is retransmitted back to you is, is too high.

The numbers are too high.

No.

Well, I appreciate that.

This is something I'd never thought of.

Never knew.

I like it.

I like it.

Because old fashioned mirrors are all silver.

And so the Kelvin reflected Kelvin is going to be in the, probably the three to 2,500 to 4,000 range, as opposed to mercury.

I'm going to say to my hair lady, I'm going to say, if you're still here, what's the Kelvin of your mirror?

I want to know.

I don't know how you'd measure the Kelvin of a mirror, but I think you can, you could do it.

Somebody out there knows how to do this stuff.

But I am familiar with the Kelvin radius.

I can tell.

I like it.

You're very familiar with it.

One more chat, GPT clip, just because it came in this morning.

Retail giant Walmart has announced a partnership with chat GPT, allowing customers to purchase products directly through the AI chat platform.

The collaboration marks a significant step in the growing integration of artificial intelligence into everyday life.

Since the emergence of consumer facing AI, analysts have long speculated about its potential to disrupt traditional business models and daily routines.

With this partnership, AI appears to be transitioning from a helpful novelty to a fully embedded part of commerce and lifestyle.

As part of the deal, Walmart will reportedly share shopper data with chat GPT's parent company in exchange for integration on the platform.

Given Walmart's vast retail footprint, such data is among its most valuable assets, typically closely guarded.

The company's willingness to share this information underscores this strategic importance on AI's role in shaping the future of retail.

I think it's a mistake.

This is crazy.

Huge mistake.

You can't do that.

Given the way that that's probably some valuable material in there that the AI machines can figure out.

And it's going to hurt Walmart.

Well, well, I guess Walmart.

A stupid deal was that that Walmart made.

The lady is running democracy forward.

No Kings.

I don't know.

I mean, I guess they're thinking that it'll increase sales because it's a recommendation engine or I don't know.

It reminds me of Dick Brass.

Oh, the old Dick Brass story.

Dick Brass was this entrepreneur.

I haven't seen him for years.

He used to work for Microsoft for a while, but before he did that in their very early days of computing, he went to Random House and did a sweet deal to get a digital rights to the rant.

The first guy who got digital rights to a book.

It was like in the, probably the early eighties, maybe the late seventies.

And he went and got these digital rights to random houses, the Soros and dictionary.

Wow.

And, and he remembers the me cause I knew him enough that he talked about the meeting.

He said, they said, Oh yeah, sure.

You can have it, but you didn't have them.

I mean, they're no good digital rights.

Don't mean anything.

We were a book company.

We print like MTV saying you can have the internet domain name.

We've got the AOL keyword.

Who cares?

Go for it.

Which is something you love to harp on, which is, but it's a classic example of this kind of stupidity or lack of forward thinking.

And as opposed to stupidity, which is slightly different.

But so, so you got, and they, as time went on within four or five years, when all the digital rights thing became a big deal and they were worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, they were whining and moaning and groaning.

They had to buy it back from him for a fortune.

I tried to buy a, what was that?

What was that service where you put the CD into your drive and then it went out on the internet and he looked it up and then it would help you burn the CD.

What was that called?

But there was a number of things that would go on the internet and, and organize stuff for you.

And also, uh, normalize the sound.

And it would also cut, you'd also, it would also tell you what the song name was.

And yeah, that's, that's what the operation was out of Emeryville.

I can almost think of the name of, because I called the guy, I spoke to him and he said, Oh man, we, we, we just sold it to somebody else for like CD database.

Yes.

CDDB.

I'm like, I want to buy that for him.

Cause I had $50,000 at this is like, you know, public company days.

I'm like, I want to buy this.

I see a future.

And I think CDB their database later sold for a lot of money to Pandora or somebody like that.

Cause they, what they had done is they had, they had the catalog and I saw that as incredibly valuable.

Yeah.

When you were ahead of your time, you're behind your time.

Yes.

I'm usually 10 years ahead by a couple of weeks.

Yours.

Yeah.

But then again, I did invest in ask Jeeve.

So that was a good one.

Yeah, that was a good one.

It allows you to get into the helicopter business and go broke.

Fabulous idea.

Hey, Hey, I had a lot of fun.

I can tell you that.

I had a lot of fun.

Chopper.

I can literally burning money in the sky.

So of course we had the big, the big peace deal phase one, which was very interesting to watch.

Just I'm just sitting there like our president is he's nuts, but he's, he's doing very interesting things.

He called it Miriam Adelson.

Did you see that?

I forgot to clip it.

No, I did not see that.

I didn't know he called Miriam.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

He called her out and let's see.

Maybe I have it here because people are going nuts over this.

This guy's insane.

I can't believe he's doing this on a second.

So what did he do?

I want to, I want to play it for you so that you can, so you can enjoy it.

You're the only here.

Here it is.

Here it is.

Promises from many other American presidents.

You know that they kept promising.

I never understood it until I got there.

They, there was a lot of pressure put on.

It was put on me too, but I didn't yield to the pressure, but every president for decades recognized that.

Here we go.

That right Miriam.

He's pointing at her now.

Isn't that right Miriam?

Look at Miriam.

She's back there.

Stand up.

And she looks like a coop.

Her hair is all crazy.

Like her hair dryer exploded.

Here he goes.

Miriam and Sheldon would come into the office.

They'd call me.

He'd call me.

I think he, I think they had more trips to the white house than anybody else.

I can't think of.

Look at her sitting there so innocently.

She's got 60 billion in the bank, 60 billion.

And she loves, I think she's saying no more.

And she loves Israel, but she loves it.

And they would come in and her husband was a very aggressive man, but I loved him.

It was a very aggressive, very supportive of me.

And, uh, he'd call up, uh, can I come over and see you?

I say, Sheldon, I'm the president of the United States.

It doesn't work that way.

He'd come in.

But they, uh, were very responsible for so much, including getting me thinking about Golan Heights, which is probably one of the greatest things to ever happen.

Here's the money shot.

Miriam, stand up, please.

She really is.

I mean, she loves this country.

She loves this country.

Her and her husband are so incredible.

We miss him so dearly, but I actually asked her, I'm going to get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once.

I said, so Miriam, I know you love Israel.

What do you love more?

The United States or Israel?

She refused to answer.

That means that might mean it.

So people go nuts over this.

He's admitting, he's admitting it.

He's controlled by Israel.

Get that?

Of course not.

In fact, it's the most transparent I've ever seen a president be like, I got a hundred million dollars.

He didn't say a hundred million dollars, but very supportive of me.

And then they gave me some thoughts about the goal on heights.

And I think they love Israel more than America.

Like, okay, that, that was all that.

Oh, that set people off.

I don't know why I would set anybody off.

I'm just saying, I don't understand it either.

Anyway, so that, that was a little moment there.

Then he goes to Egypt and man, everybody, except Iran.

Everybody was there.

All the big wigs.

They're all like, you're great.

The, the Pakistan prime minister.

He's like, without you, millions of people would have been dead between us and India.

Thank you for stopping that.

Everyone's just loving them and loving them and loving them.

And I, so it's just the best.

You got Georgia Maloney smiling at him from behind.

He turns around and he says, I get in trouble for this as a politician, but you're beautiful.

You're just beautiful.

So he's doing this whole rap and he's going down the list alphabetically.

And Jeremy Kyle, he's, he's on sky news in the UK.

He, I think he had a talk show.

Maybe he still has a talk show, a morning talk show.

Um, and he was doing a voice, I guess the way they, you know how the, they used to do the, the Eurovision song contest and they, and the Brits are always making fun of it.

Sir.

Terry Wogan was great at that.

Um, and always laughing there cause they always came in last and they always be laughing about it.

So Jeremy Kyle is doing a version of that.

And for 15 minutes and it's only on YouTube, I guess they were showing the, the straight video of Trump on television, but on YouTube they have his commentary, which he's making as he's watching it, which I think is an interesting thing to do.

And they're, they're playing, he and his co -hosts are playing it just like it's the Eurovision song contest because Keir Starmer, the prime minister is standing there and he'd like to Cheshire cat.

And, and they're like, Oh, oh, he's last.

Oh, he's been waiting 15 minutes.

I'll just play this one minute where it came to it.

And, uh, UAE.

Oh, UAE.

We're next.

United Kingdom.

Where's the United Kingdom?

Behind you.

Oh, I'm here.

Oh, there you are.

Oh, the stick is coming forward.

All came in like 20, 20 minutes.

he's come up.

And just so many others.

It's such a compliment to what we're doing, because what we've done is something very unique and very special.

So it's perhaps, uh, the wealthiest and most powerful.

Right.

Cut that.

Just stop Trump.

Now.

I had to wait for that.

People honestly, can you please cut that?

He waited 15 minutes, Keir Starmer to be mentioned.

And as Trump stood right behind Trump, he goes, where is he?

So he turns around and Starmer walks to the lectern and Trump looks at him and sort of go away.

Starmer looks now as if somebody has put something very disgusting under his nose.

It was great.

He totally cock blocked him.

Like, nah, you're not going to talk.

You're not going to say anything.

And the main reason is, of course, that Britain and France went to this whole two state solution thing.

And we recognize Palestine as a state.

And here's what Rubio thought of that.

If you notice that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day, Macron made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state.

And then you have other people come forward.

Other countries say, well, there's not a ceasefire by September.

We're going to recognize a Palestinian state.

Well, I'm Hamas.

I basically conclude, let's not do a ceasefire because we can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory.

So those messages, while largely symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas.

They feel emboldened.

Now, not to be outdone, as the Brits, of course, have been totally shunned.

This is, they never wanted this to happen.

They love this strife in the Middle East, the North Sea nexus.

The secretary of education, Bridget Philipson, comes out, goes on Sky News and said, oh no, we actually did this.

We recognize that Trump has taken all the honor here, but we actually did this.

We have played a key role behind the scenes in shaping this.

It's right that we do so because it's in all of our interest, including our own national interest, that we move to a lasting peace in the region.

But when you say behind the scenes, like what?

I mean, it seems to everybody else in the world that this has been done by Trump and the Israelis and Hamas.

What part did we play?

These are complex matters of diplomacy that we are involved in, but we do welcome and recognize the critical role that the American government played in moving us to this point.

What matters now, of course, is how we move beyond this immediate end to the war, moving towards that lasting peace that we all want to see.

And that is why we have recognized a Palestinian state, but why alongside that, we're committed to making sure that a safe and secure Israel endures.

The reason I ask this is because, as you say, we recognize a Palestinian state.

Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said that actually made it more difficult to land the deal.

What's really going on here?

I mean, was that some sort of clever strategic double bluff?

I mean, the Americans say we made it more difficult.

You're saying that we played this key part.

What's true?

Well, we believed as a government that it was the right thing to do to recognize the Palestinian state because of the way in which the conflict had developed over the last two years, that if that hadn't happened, we would be in a position where there would no longer be that viable option of a Palestinian state.

But the Israelis were furious with us.

The Americans said that we actually hampered the deal.

What was the positive role that we played?

It was the right thing to do.

And we will always act as a government in that manner.

I do obviously understand that not everyone agrees with that decision.

But given the scale of the conflict and what needed to happen, we felt it was the right thing to do to recognize that Palestinian state.

But I should also just emphasize that the reason this conflict, of course, this phase of the conflict has begun or began, was following the appalling events, the appalling atrocities of the 7th of October.

And over the course of the next 24 hours, what we all want to see are as many hostages as possible released home to their families and those brought home.

Yeah.

Blah, blah, blah.

And then we've got...

Anthony Blinken also took credit.

Yes.

The New York Times did a big article.

The lost chances to reach a hostage deal and ceasefire months ago.

Because, you know, they had it all teed up.

All Trump had to do was just make it happen.

And because he prolonged the war with his antics, lots of Palestinians were killed.

It's amazing, these people.

It's truly amazing.

New York Times.

Yeah, it's pretty pathetic.

Yeah.

So anyway, I think the best quote was on...

He was yelling at the BBC people on the plane.

He's like, I think he's onto this.

It's North Sea Nexus.

He's like, nah, nah, these guys are no good.

And then Doocy comes out with a question, which was a pretty funny answer.

You had talked a couple of weeks ago, you were doing an interview, and you talked about how you hoped to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven.

How does this help?

Does this help?

I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute.

I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven.

I think I'm not maybe heaven bound.

I may be in heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One.

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven.

But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people.

And, you know, as an example, had the election of 2020 not been rigged, you would have millions of people living just in Russia, Ukraine alone.

That would have never happened.

And it didn't happen for four years.

And I knew Putin very well.

It was the apple of his eye that all the things I've said would have never happened.

We had an incompetent administration.

We had an incompetent president.

And because of a crooked election, millions of people are dead.

There you go.

I'm not going to heaven.

You know, when he said that, because he's been talking about this for some reason, I'm surprised that the lefties haven't picked up on it as an admission to Epstein.

Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah.

And not one guy has picked.

Nobody's picked up.

It's too late.

I think the timing's off now.

You can't do it.

But it seems to me that's the first thing I'd say, oh, they're going to go after him here because this is now he's admitting.

He's just admitted that he was an Epstein pedophile.

That's a good one.

No.

But no, they're too dumb.

No.

Yes.

They're too wrapped up in trying to give the credit to Biden.

I think.

I have a clip.

I have an interesting gossip.

This is kind of a this is like at the end of it.

I think it's a NPR discussion about Gaza.

And this is just the final talking about the who's going to be policing the place and all the rest of it.

And I thought it was a good way to wrap currently where we stand on Gaza.

Oh, here we go.

The vacuum.

Is that it?

The vacuum.

Yeah.

Who is going to fill this vacuum?

If no, hold on a second.

What's this?

You've got you're out of out of sync, man.

No.

Yeah, you got home on me.

Let me monetize you.

Okay, let's try that again.

Who is going to fill this vacuum?

If no one's in control?

Well, the ceasefire calls for a committee of Palestinian technocrats to run Gaza on an interim basis.

Egypt's foreign minister says there is now a list of 15 people, and he says the names have been approved by Hamas in Israel.

However, the names haven't been announced, and it's not clear when they'll take over or how much authority they'll have to take care of things like health care, education, water, electricity, coordination with aid groups.

And, Alyssa, as you know, the needs are staggering, and this committee certainly won't have many resources to work with.

Would they be in charge of Gaza's security?

So it seems they'll likely play a role, though we really don't have any clarity.

Right now the Hamas civilian police, armed with guns, have returned to the streets.

And these Hamas policemen have been in deadly shootouts already with some Palestinian clans, which are essentially armed gangs.

So the security situation is very volatile.

Now, Egypt says it's training about 5,000 new Palestinian policemen for Gaza.

This training has been taking place in recent weeks in Egypt.

It's not clear when these new policemen might come to Gaza and if Hamas will accept this new authority.

Yeah, well, of course, it behooves no one for this to actually stick or improve, not in the media, for sure.

We want this to fail.

Yeah, they want it to fail, of course.

And I'm sure there's rough waters ahead.

There's no doubt about it.

You know, you got Hamas executing people on the street.

They made a big deal out of that.

Yeah, and they also made a big deal out of it being 33.

Oh, I didn't hear that part.

I did, yeah.

Did you get it?

No, I didn't get it, but I figured, yeah, it's just another 33.

Well, here's the CNN report.

In the middle of a public square in Gaza City, eight bound and blindfolded men are dragged out and forced to kneel.

One by one, armed Hamas militants take up their positions behind them.

Very graphic, this.

Aiming rifles at their heads before opening fire.

All eight men fall to the ground, executed.

This is part of the grim reality of post-ceasefire Gaza, as Hamas forces say they are carrying out a, quote, comprehensive security operation to root out those they accuse of collaborating with Israel.

With these bodies, Hamas also reestablishing the element of fear it has used to rule Gaza for years, as it looks to reassert its dominance over a decimated Gaza Strip.

Amid its ceasefire with Israel, Hamas is now putting on a show of force in Gaza's streets, attacking other armed groups, from gangs backed by Israel to powerful clans that have a history of clashing with Hamas.

The Dormush clan, which denies collaborating with Israel, has accused Hamas of killing nearly 30 members of its family in the last week.

U.S.

Central Command, which is monitoring the ceasefire, urging Hamas to immediately suspend violence and shooting at innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

And, of course, now the question is, what will we protest?

Well, we got the no kings.

I have a little clip on the no kings.

We just protest not having a king.

OK, let's do that.

If you have noticed, the news cycle over the last week has been even worse than before.

It just seems to be escalating.

And I truly believe it's partly because they're seeing how many marches are being organized all around the country and around the world on October 18th.

They are lashing out in fear because they see all the opposition from people.

The fact that they cannot gaslight the world into thinking, into believing that Portland is a war zone on fire because there are now dancing frogs, dancing unicorns, dancing eagles outside the ICE facility.

What?

What?

And even the Oregon National Guard is there to protect the peaceful protesters and not the ICE agents.

It says a lot.

They are lashing out because they're not getting what they want.

They are terrified because there are more of us than there are of them.

And more people are waking up and saying that they are against this regime.

So this week, try to find something that brings you calm, recharges your energy, because we need all of our voices together on October 18th.

No King's Day.

OK, so this is obviously a Marxist move by the Socialist Workers' Party and whatever else.

The World's Workers' Party.

When you say regime, you're a comrade.

Wouldn't you say?

Yeah, I would say so.

Yeah, regime is a code word.

Yeah, but this is what I'm somewhat concerned about.

They are really going nuts in these cities.

Well, I'm not seeing it that bad.

I don't think it's that bad.

I think they're humiliating themselves.

Well, we'll see.

They can be violent.

We saw it with BLM.

Well, yeah, but that's always been true.

We saw it with BLM.

Let's play this clip.

This is the one TikTok clip that I have on here, which is talk.

I think it's lefty Gaza Trump clip.

No, I will not be celebrating that Donald Trump ended the war in Gaza because he didn't.

If anybody deserves to be recognized and praised for their efforts in ending this conflict, which is still not entirely ended, it is the people of Palestine.

The people of Palestine have relentlessly fought for decades for liberation to still not entirely have it.

So, no, I will not be praising Donald Trump or his administration for ending the war, ending this, ending the conflict, getting the ceasefire deal because it wasn't him.

It was not Donald Trump that did this.

It was the perseverance and the persistence of the Palestinian people that got us to where we are, that got them to where they are.

It is their efforts, their loss, their pain, their struggles that have got them to this point.

So, no, I will not be acknowledging or giving any type of credit to Donald Trump and his administration because they don't deserve it.

The people who deserve credit and love and support are those of Palestine, those who have truly fought for liberation, those who have truly fought for their families, their people, not Donald Trump.

Oh, brother.

Look at me.

Look at me.

Look at me.

I'm taking a stand.

Look at me.

Look at me.

Look at me on TikTok.

Look at me.

Oh, yeah, I'm taking a stand.

Why are you producing it?

Why are you taking a clip and then putting a musical bed under it?

Are you Martin Scorsese?

I mean, who do you think you are?

I'm producing.

I'm a producer, man.

I'm a creator.

I'm a creator.

I create what I do.

And when I create, I create against the orange man.

I create.

That's what I'm doing.

Haven't you heard of social media?

Haven't you heard of short-form video?

Everyone's loving it.

It's where it's at, man.

You dinosaur.

What are you thinking, Lincoln?

Oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So there's a new, you know, we played the old J.D.

Vance, the original retardo clip.

Yes.

Well, he's got a new one.

Is this something he's making and posting or is this just someone?

I really don't think he's making these.

To my illegal alien amigos in the city of El Chicago, please go back to your casita.

El Governor Pritzker es mucho retardo.

He can't protecto you.

If you stay in El Chicago, you will be arrestedo and deporto back to your shitholeo.

Gracias, amigos.

Oh, and when you come back legally, make sure you elvoto for El J.D.

Vanceo.

Muchas gracias.

Long live Sora, too.

Yeah, it'll be short lived, but we'll enjoy it while it's here for sure.

So then, although I think the only person really doing a lot with this is Jesse Waters.

But, you know, I tried to clip him.

He did like 10 minutes on this.

Well, the problem with clipping Jesse, because I've done it on the show, is that he's he does too many asides.

Yeah.

To be, you know, he tries to be personable when he does this bit.

So so instead of just doing a straight up presentation, he's he wanders.

Just enough that you have to keep clipping it out.

It's very annoying to edit him.

Not doable.

So instead, I have.

It is doable.

It's just the pain in the ass.

So Tulsi Gabbard, she is she is buckling down, bearing down and calling it out as a traitorous conspiracy.

The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability.

The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability.

When we look at the future of our country as a Democratic Republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans.

This is literally what is at stake here.

So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action.

No one, no matter who they are, no matter how high up they are or how powerful they may be, no matter who the intelligence officials or professionals were who were a part of this treasonous conspiracy.

There must be accountability.

The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country.

I'm not a lawyer.

We're referring all of this to the Department of Justice.

I know that Attorney General Pam Bondi is committed to bringing about justice to those who have broken the law.

And in this case, again, what these documents detail to me, in my view, cannot be explained as anything but a treasonous conspiracy.

This is not so different from what we saw under George W.

Bush when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our country.

Now that I'm hearing this, thank you for reminding me that when we listen to things instead of watching them, we catch more.

When she brings up the treasonous conspiracy of George W.

Bush, the analog there is Britain.

The analog is all over the place because it was the Brits who also were pushing weapons of mass destruction.

The Brits, the Brits, the Brits.

And the same thing here.

Steel, the Brits, MI6.

George W.

Bush, when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our country, that changed the lives of so many people like myself who went and served in those wars, the implications of manufactured intelligence are real.

I would even say that what we are seeing here has an even greater impact than what we've seen in the past because it speaks again to the foundation of our constitution and our democratic republic, which is why accountability is so critical.

I don't, for some, why does it grate me when she says our democratic republic?

Because it's a constitutional republic.

Thank you, thank you.

I don't know why she says that.

I don't like it.

She's a democrat.

Oh, yes, of course.

Well, and then, of course, President Trump just went on and on and on about this, calling out everybody.

Oh, we're going to get everybody.

And I hope that everybody's, you know, they're involved in it.

I'm not.

I'm the one that had to suffer through it and ultimately win.

But what they did was criminal, deranged.

Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal.

And I noticed his his interviewer was I notice how smart he is.

He could be a podcaster, in my opinion.

He slips it in there.

So it's not libelous.

So he's, in my opinion, he's very good.

Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal.

And I noticed his his interviewer was I think that was Weissman.

And I hope they're going to look into Weissman, too.

Weissman's a bad guy.

And he had somebody in Lisa, who was his puppet, worked in the office really as the top person.

And I think that she should be looked at very strongly.

No, there was tremendous criminal activity having to do with we don't have fair elections in this country.

We're not going to have a country.

And I've said it from the beginning, fair elections and border borders.

And we need also fair press, because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough.

They have committed massive political crime.

I hope they're looking at Shifty Schiff.

I hope they're looking at all these people.

And I'm allowed to find out.

I'm allowed to, you know, I'm in theory the chief law enforcement officer.

But I have a very good, talented group.

This is about something else.

But I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through.

They raided my house in Florida.

It was an illegal raid.

I have a lawsuit that was doing very well.

And when I became president, I said, I'm sort of suing myself.

I don't know what to do.

You settle the lawsuit.

I'll say, give me X dollars.

And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit.

It's a great lawsuit.

And now I won.

It sort of looks bad.

I'm suing myself, right?

I'm suing myself.

So I don't know.

But that was a lawsuit.

I love it when he loses it.

It was a great lawsuit.

But I got how many X dollars I'm going to give myself?

It was a great lawsuit.

But I can't do it.

I can't sue myself.

It was a very strong, very powerful.

They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar -a-Lago.

They went through the drawers of my young son.

They went through all of the cabinets and drawers of the first lady.

She walked in.

She said, wow, what happened?

This is where video would be helpful.

I just like to see them going through her drawers.

Yeah, Melania's drawers.

She's very meticulous.

And this wasn't so meticulous.

She looked into the drawers and she saw everything a mess.

It's what they did against a person that just got out of office.

So he goes on and on and on.

And I think it's getting to some Democrats because Pelosi, she lost it on the steps of the Capitol.

I don't know if you saw that.

Some reporter.

Mike Lindell's TV.

Yes, Lindell TV.

The girl who does this, she's pretty funny.

And I don't know if you saw the whole clip.

No.

Well, at the end she turns to the camera and gives a shit.

Yeah, that's the best part.

She gives the grin, yeah.

A big grin.

But Pelosi, I just love this.

This is short.

Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day?

Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day?

Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?

Shut up.

I did not refuse the National Guard.

The president didn't send it.

Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?

The American people want to know.

We still have questions.

Thank you.

I just love...

Shut up.

That's just the best.

I mean, she's off her...

Shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

She's mad.

Now she's over the hill.

She's lost it.

But by the way, since you played some of these clips about this, you know, these threats that are going to go after this guy, they're going to do nothing.

The Republicans never do anything.

They don't...

Schiff is going to be fine.

I mean, maybe they all get a little nervous.

No one gets...

One guy who's got indicted, Comey, for some, you know, he got indicted for a good reason and it's probably an open-shut case.

And Letitia James, which seems like an easy one because she's like, basically, seems to be corrupt.

But that's it.

Where's all the Comer stuff about, oh, we've tracked all the bank accounts to Hunter Biden's laptops and we've put into pieces together...

Arctic Foss.

...connecting all of that.

Nothing's come of it.

Where's Arctic Foss?

Arctic Foss, and they're all bitching about it.

Every time Hawley's on a show or there's two or three of these senators that are complaining bitterly constantly, but it doesn't mean anything.

They gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe.

And that's about all that you get out of the Republican Party.

Well, that's a disappointing thing to hear.

Well, you know it.

I know, but where's the fun in that?

Where's the fun?

Yeah, there is no fun.

They're just a bunch of softies.

And then Pam Bondi, give me a break.

Well...

I mean, there's more memes.

I'll put some memes in the next newsletter about, you know, they have more than one Pam Bondi doll with, you know, she's sitting there behind a desk with a bunch of stuff she doesn't want to look at.

So something odd happened.

I got a clip from the Clip Custodian.

And he sends me, he said, this is an old clip.

And he sent it to me in context of a couple other clips I'm going to play.

But I just clipped this myself.

And I guess it was a rerun.

Which is surprising that it ran again on the news.

And I got it from KREM in South Carolina.

And he had the original from WYFF in South Carolina.

I think they're both NBC affiliates.

And so I'll play this clip.

And then I'll, which means, I think it'll make sense when I play the other clips.

It's just interesting that he dug this up and said, this is an old clip, but it makes sense in context of these other clips.

Which is a predictive program.

It's a recycling news for some reason.

Yes, for some reason.

There is growing concern over a measles outbreak in South Carolina.

And whether misinformation about vaccines is making it worse.

Health officials have now confirmed 16 cases in that state since July.

And dozens of students are quarantining at home right now.

Christian Benavidez has more from South Carolina.

Measles cases are on the rise, forcing nearly 140 unvaccinated students in two South Carolina schools to stay home for three weeks after they were exposed to the virus.

Parents Chandler and Emma Gordon are expecting baby number three in April.

While they and their boys are vaccinated, the recent measles outbreak has made them extra careful.

We're a little cautious knowing a newborn coming into this doesn't have the opportunity to be vaccinated or protected against measles.

The highly contagious virus spreads through the air and can linger for up to two hours.

Symptoms can include high fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and a rash.

The virus can also cause severe infections, especially in kids under five.

It's very concerning.

We have never had this big of an outbreak, especially in such a short amount of time.

Dr.

Ashley Gardner works at Parkside Pediatrics in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

Have you seen changes in parents in recent years?

We had the miscommunications that can happen sometimes decrease in vaccine rates.

And it's our job as doctors in order to help give truth and point them to hopefully having the best medical decision possible.

The measles vaccine is safe and effective, according to the Nationwide measles cases are at a more than three decade high.

While vaccination rates among kindergartners have been trending downwards in recent years.

Measles is so contagious that it means a very, very high level of vaccination in order to achieve that herd immunity.

And so if it dips down at all, there's the risk for this highly contagious virus spreading very quickly.

So this next clip, I will play for the benefit of our of our ever growing Gen Z contingent who tune in to their uncles to learn some stuff.

And I'm going to resurrect the clip that you brought probably about a year ago, I think, of the Brady Bunch, which I watched as a kid growing up.

You watched as a teenager growing up.

The Brady Bunch, a great sitcom to a mom had three daughters.

Dad had three boys.

They married.

They got a housekeeper.

It's a fun little sitcom.

And the Brady Bunch gets the measles.

Here's how we talked about measles when we were kids back in the ice age.

Peter, what are you doing home from school?

They sent me home.

Measles.

See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles.

You have got a temperature.

They told me one hundred and one point one.

What's the record?

Never mind.

Are you sure it's the measles?

Well, he certainly got all the symptoms, a slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile.

A great big smile.

No school for a few days.

Say hello to my dotted son for me.

Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later.

OK, honey.

Bye.

Boy, this is the life, isn't it?

Yeah.

If you have to get sick, you can't beat the measles.

That's right.

No medicine.

Inside or out.

Like shots, I mean.

Don't even mention shots.

Measles.

Measles.

Measles.

Well, all the kids have now had the measles.

So have I.

Well, I had them years ago.

Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles.

Hold it.

You're not through yet.

Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles.

Oh, I hope so.

I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age.

So that's how we thought about this very same disease, measles, when we were kids.

You had spots and a big smile on your face.

You got to stay home.

You got to read comic books.

You got ice cream.

And it was better than getting a needle.

No, we'd rather have measles.

Now we move forward in time to 2025.

The Emmy Award winning, multiple Emmy Award winning HBO series The Pit.

Have you seen The Pit?

I know about The Pit.

It's a hot show.

It's a very hot show, and here is their Brady Bunch version of the measles.

We have a septic 13 year old with pneumonia.

I just intubated and ceftriaxone is on board.

Hatchy consolidation, maybe some nodules.

Could be viral pneumonia with or without bacterial superinfection.

Kid's got a weird rash too.

Oh, and it's maculopapular on the legs.

Pretty faded on the neck and chest.

Starting to desquamate.

You ever seen anything like this before?

Nope.

Well, that just goes to show you how old I am.

This looks like measles.

Holy shit.

Any travel history?

He wasn't able to talk before he intubated.

But measles is super contagious.

It's not contagious if it's resolving.

We need more history.

Where are the parents?

Oh, they're at the movies.

I'm sure their phone's off.

But he came in with his little sister.

We can talk to her.

What theater?

I don't know.

Jen, try every theater.

Start with the ones closest to where they live.

We need to find those parents and call public health.

Tell them we might have a measles outbreak.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

We've got a measles outbreak.

Oh, no.

Oh, I've seen this before.

I'm so old.

It's the measles.

Let's have the parents argue about shots and stuff and doing things.

Oh, no.

It's the measles.

How did Flynn get measles?

From his sister.

Hi.

I'm Dr.

Robbie.

Georgia is fine.

She's in our staff room.

She's the one who actually called 911 and probably saved her brother's life.

Called 911 because he had the measles.

Georgia was sick, but she got better on her own quickly.

Yeah.

Many people get better on their own like Georgia.

However, as many as one in 20 kids that get measles get pneumonia like your son.

Are your children vaccinated against measles?

No.

The MMR vaccine is perfectly safe.

Measles is...

And effective.

Not.

We're concerned about inflammation and possible damage to Flynn's brain and spinal cord.

The measles got to his brain?

Well, his head CT was normal, but the only way to find out if he's okay is to perform a lumbar puncture.

The measles got to...

Oh, God.

The measles got to his brain.

We have to do a lumbar puncture.

Make sure you get that beeping noise.

Keep on going in the background.

A spinal tap?

I've read about kids who've been paralyzed from a spinal tap.

There is zero risk of paralysis.

What about bleeding or infection?

It's a perfectly safe procedure.

We do it every day.

We need spinal fluid to see if Flynn has acute disseminated encephalomyelitis.

And if he does?

We treat with high-dose steroids to decrease the risk of blindness, deafness, intellectual disability, even death.

He could die from this?

The death rate from ADEM is high.

One in five.

Do the spinal tap.

No!

Can't you just give him steroids without the spinal tap?

If there's no ADEM, the steroids could suppress his immune system, making it harder to fight off the pneumonia.

But it says here that...

Can you put your damn phone away?

Hey, hey!

Don't be doing your own research, lady!

Your son is critically ill.

The longer that we wait, the higher the risk of permanent brain damage.

What is not clear here?

Hillary, he has a tube down his throat.

They're not poking holes in my son's spine!

Wow.

Oh, man!

How could this end?

What are you doing?

You said she didn't want to be in the room.

I was getting Georgia something to eat.

Wait outside.

Stop what you're doing right now.

No, they're almost done.

I can't believe you went behind my back.

I did what was best for Flynn, not for you.

Take that needle out of his back!

No.

Yes!

Ma'am, I don't want to have to ask you to leave.

Take it out right now.

Yep, coming out now.

All done.

My son is leaving this hospital.

I'm sorry.

She really is a good mom.

I mean, come on.

This is insane.

The propaganda of this.

And they get all the Emmys?

And they won a lot of awards.

It's structured well, yeah.

Oh, that's just crazy.

And it's shameful.

I'd say it's just shameful that they run storylines like that.

And did the Brady Bunch ever win an Emmy?

They sure deserve it.

No, I don't think so.

That was the golden era of sitcoms, so it was pretty hard to win anything.

Yeah, Happy Days.

It wasn't Happy Days.

Happy Days was the same time.

Kung Fu.

Kung Fu.

Yeah, Kung Fu, grasshopper.

It's time when you snatch the pebbles from my hand.

Ah, these were good times.

Love Boat.

Come on, man.

These were good shows.

They were wholesome shows.

You stayed at home and watched with your family.

We loved it.

Those days are over.

Yeah, we just Doomscroll.

Doomscroll.

Look at the eagle.

Look at the eagle.

He picked up the baby.

My favorite.

And the mom.

So we also have, since we're talking Doomscroll, one of our producers sent me this.

It was a Doomscroller.

He knows who he is.

This guy's a comedy.

He's not a comedian.

He's a satirist, I think, and his name's Josh Sider, I think is how you pronounce it.

And he does these takeoffs on different people, and this is kind of a takeoff on this character we've all seen on TikTok videos, or they pass it around.

She gets around, she, he, they, them.

I don't know who it is.

This Lily Tino person who's always being misgendered, and she's in the restaurants, and she's always getting free stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Excuse me.

Excuse me.

What did you call me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I want them.

I don't have to leave.

I don't feel.

My favorite Lily thing is it's always the same bit.

She says, he called me, sir.

And then he did correct it to ma 'am, but I don't feel safe.

Yes.

You don't feel safe.

I don't feel safe here.

I don't feel safe here.

I've got to go.

So this is Josh who's also played a trans illegal immigrant.

But this is his latest bit, and I think it's hilarious.

Guys, it happened again.

I was out minding my own business, not bothering anybody, and I got mispigmented.

I was at the Dollar Tree.

I was picking up some wave caps for the 360 waves I'm growing out, and this guy behind me is like, I didn't know white guys needed those things.

And I said, excuse me, bigot.

Did you just dead skin me?

And he's like, what are you talking about?

I'm like, what am I talking about?

I was assigned white at birth by a doctor, but I identify as a black man.

And this whole time, the cashier's just kind of standing there.

And I'm like, are you not going to say anything to this racist?

She's like, sir, he's an actual black man.

I said, actual black man?

Do you understand how harmful those words are to trans pigmented people like me?

And it's just like, how many black identifying white guys are going to have to suffer until people just start doing the right thing and affirming our identity?

So the cashier is like, sir, you can either finish checking out or just leave.

And I'm like, you keep calling me sir, but I identify as a woman.

And she's like, I am so sorry, ma 'am.

And so I ended up getting like 50 % off my order.

So anyways, I'm just really frustrated.

Let me know what you guys think in the comments.

Peace.

Oh, that brings me to a clip that I was tipped off.

It was tipped off to by the former New York banker said, did you see the stats that are going around?

I said, no, what's that?

And I found a clip of said stats in a shift from recent trends.

New data suggests that the number of young people identifying as transgender or non-binary has declined sharply.

According to findings from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression which surveyed more than 60 ,000 undergraduate students across the United States.

The share of respondents identifying as a gender other than male or female has fallen by nearly half over the past two years from 6.8% in 2022 to 2023 to just 3.6% this year.

The decline appears most pronounced at elite universities where some campuses reported drops of up to 70%.

While the reasons behind the shift remain unclear, analysts point to a mix of cultural and political factors including evolving public attitudes toward gender identity and heightened debate over related issues such as women's sports and public accommodations.

Whatever the cause, it appears as though this trendy social contagion may be heading toward remission.

50%?

Wow.

There's hope.

There's light at the end of the tunnel.

Except for the people who got mutilated.

Well, yeah.

That's bad.

Of course.

Of course.

We've been following pig butchering for, what, a couple of years now?

At least.

And I've taken in the, because especially the Mercy Me guys, they're always laughing, they're always sending me the, because they always goad these scammers and they're always like, hey, I'm Alice or Kim or whatever.

Goading the scammers is fun.

Yeah, but when you hear about these are slaves basically being whipped because they haven't gotten enough money out of these poor slubs who fall for this time and time again, and then the Department of Justice released a statement about they rolled up one of these big pig butchering scams, and here's the report.

The DOJ says it seized a staggering $15 billion in bitcoin from a global pig butchering scam.

The agency says it's the largest forfeiture in U.S.

history.

Federal prosecutors charged Chin G, a Cambodian tycoon known as Vincent, accusing him of running crypto fraud compounds where trafficked workers were beaten and forced to scam victims online.

G's Prince Holding Group allegedly pulled in up to $30 million in a day, laundering stolen crypto through secret wallets.

The FBI says the bust marks, quote, one of the largest financial fraud takedowns ever.

G remains at large.

$15 billion.

That's a business.

Yes, that's a business.

Yeah, just whip some slaves, $15 billion.

That's a lot of money.

That's a lot of money.

He remains at large.

Vincent.

Vincent, yeah.

Vincent.

And then we have the ongoing blowing boats out of the water.

Yeah, I guess he blew another one up.

Yeah, the fifth one.

And here's the president with some statistics of his own.

Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control.

We've had a couple of days where there isn't a boat to be found.

And I view that as a good thing, not a bad thing.

But we had tremendous amounts coming in by boats, by very expensive boats.

You know, they have a lot of money, very fast, very expensive boats that were pretty big.

And the way you look at it is every boat that we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives.

So every time you see a boat and you feel badly, you say, wow, that's rough.

It is rough.

But if you lose three people and save 25,000 people, these are people that are killing our population.

Every boat is saving 25,000 lives.

And you can see it.

The boats get hit.

And you see that fentanyl all over the ocean.

It's like floating in bags.

It's all over the place.

And it's a tremendous, we're saving tremendous amounts of lives.

I don't know where he gets the 25 ,000 lives saved or created from.

I don't get that either.

And most of those boats are headed to Europe or they're headed to a transfer point.

No, they're not.

No, most of them, it's been documented largely that the Venezuelans are a transfer point for cocaine through the various islands ending up in Europe.

Oh, okay.

Oh, that's different.

I thought you were saying these boats were going to Europe.

No, the boats can't get that far.

Ah, okay.

No, the Venezuelan drugs, it's a transfer point for Colombian and other cocaine suppliers.

Well, this makes total sense.

Thank you.

Now it makes sense.

This is Trump hitting out at the North Sea Nexus like, no, we're not going to let you even get your drugs to launder all that money through the port of Rotterdam.

Now it makes sense.

Well, using it from that perspective, I guess it gives it a different angle.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, no, no, you're not going to get, I'm not going to let you transport your drug money and drugs to get money and fund whatever you're doing over there.

No.

Yeah, and it's not fentanyl.

No, it's not fentanyl.

I don't think he said fentanyl, did he?

Yes, he did.

Oh, he did?

He said fentanyl very specifically.

No, it's not fentanyl.

Here's a longer ABC report, and a lot of politicians are very outraged by this, which I find puzzling.

This morning, President Trump considering U.S.

strikes on Venezuelan soil to combat drug cartels.

Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control.

The president also escalating U.S.

operations against Venezuela's authoritarian leader, Nicolas Maduro, Trump confirming he's authorized covert CIA action in the country.

But when asked if the agency has the authority to take out Maduro, Trump noncommittal.

But I think Venezuela's feeling heat.

In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation.

By the way, I don't think the president actually said that he has authorized the CIA.

I think this is something that is...

No, he didn't.

He didn't.

They're piecing the...

They're putting together what they think is connecting the dots.

Exactly.

And then they throw in a little nat -pop quote of him saying, I think they're feeling the heat.

It's very interesting that they're doing this.

Trump noncommittal.

But I think Venezuela's feeling heat.

In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation to access the country's oil resources, saying they would bring up the matter at the U.N.

Security Council today.

It comes after the U.S.

carried out its fifth deadly strike on an alleged drug boat off the coast of Venezuela.

Trump posting this video on social media, saying six male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike.

The Trump administration's operation in the Caribbean first began in early September and has drawn fierce condemnation from Democratic lawmakers, who say the strikes risk getting the U.S.

into a full -fledged war.

There's lots of people who have been designated terrorists that does not automatically give the authority to take lethal action.

Asked why he's striking the boats instead of using traditional Coast Guard operations, where officers can verify who is on the boat, Trump saying the Coast Guard boats are too slow.

They have faster boats.

Some of these boats are seriously, I mean, they're world-class speed boats, but they're not faster than missiles.

So far, the administration has provided limited details and no evidence to prove that the 27 people killed were attempting to traffic drugs to the U.S.

as they claim.

So there's a one-in-four chance.

This is Rand Paul.

All of a sudden, they throw him in, and why is he all mad about stuff now?

To traffic drugs to the U.S.

as they claim.

So there's a one-in-four chance, statistically speaking, that one of these boats may not have had any drugs on it.

We will never know because they were blown to smithereens.

In a memo obtained by ABC News earlier this month, the administration told Congress that America is in a formal armed conflict and that drug cartels are deemed unlawful combatants.

Again, that's a memo that you send to Congress when you're invoking some kind of war power.

This is done continuously, but they make it sound like it's just, he just dashed off a memo and said, thank you for your attention to this matter.

Now, the Venezuelan government has repeatedly denounced the U.S.

strike, saying they are, quote, a pure violation of international rights.

Maduro calling them, quote, aggression all down the line.

But U.S.

officials accused Maduro of facilitating drug trafficking from Venezuela, a claim he denies.

Hmm.

Now, the whole CIA thing they bring in is interesting.

Not sure exactly why they're doing that.

Probably some coded stuff we don't get.

Possibly.

I have a few clips here on, I think it's a public service.

And this is about the protein fad.

Oh, yes.

Didn't we have some clips on this about the Kardashians and popcorn protein and everyone's talking protein this and protein that?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think we did in the past, but this is a kind of a, this was Consumer Reports doing some research and determining that most of the protein powders and stuff you get are so loaded with lead.

Why?

Why is lead in there?

They never explain why the lead is in there, but most of it's probably a function of the extraction process or they, I don't know.

Wow.

Somebody can, maybe there's a chemist out there that knows how this is done.

But this is a, and they soft pedaled this on NPR.

They soft pedaled it a little bit, but anyone, and I don't do this.

I'm not a, I figure a couple of pieces of steak or lamb chops or pork chops.

Mine give you some protein that you need.

Yeah.

I think you'd get your protein from that cheese.

It's got a lot of protein in it.

There's a lot of product out there.

You don't have to add protein powder to everything.

So, but listen to this.

This is a, this is a, I consider this a public service for us to play these clips on this show.

Americans are obsessed with protein.

What once was more of a niche interest has gone thoroughly mainstream.

Just check your local grocery store.

Beef jerky, protein, boosted milk and yogurts, even soon protein pop tarts and Doritos.

And of course, there are tons of protein powders.

They're commonly made from whey, which is derived from milk or from pea protein.

And according to a consumer reports analysis, they likely contain something else, toxic heavy metals.

Especially lead.

Yeah.

All right.

NPR is doing this as a public service as well, I guess.

I think so.

This is a fascinating, this is of course, one of their separate things.

It's not part of their daily news, but I'm sure they'll play it a few times, but this is to me, frightening because lead is one of the worst.

I mean, it's a cumulative, if you get lead salts in, yes, cumulative, it causes all kinds of neurological problems.

Yeah, it's like radiation.

It stacks up.

It makes you sick and it makes you dumb.

What?

Sorry, I was too busy licking paint.

Part two.

Investigative reporter at Paris Smart Note.

Wow, what is this happening?

You have, you're way off balance.

You've got right channel only.

I don't, I didn't, I didn't send it that way.

Oh, yes, you did.

Okay.

Yeah.

It happened over here.

I'm sorry.

I have to look at it.

Now I'm going to go back and download these again, redownload them and take a look and see what, how you got that.

But here we go.

Investigative reporter at Paris Smart Note joins us now to share what they've learned.

Okay.

So first of all, I have to confess that I am one of those Americans that is obsessed with protein.

I actually had some protein powder in my smoothie this morning.

So this is personal.

Do I need to throw out my protein powder?

Like how alarmed should consumers be?

Yeah, there's no reason for anyone to panic.

What we basically found is we tested 23 popular protein powders and shakes.

And we found that for more than two thirds of the products that we analyzed, a single serving of them contained more lead than what our food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day.

Some of the products had more than 10 times the level that our experts say is safe.

That sounds bad.

I mean, it's not good.

I will say that.

I didn't even know that there was a recommended dosage of lead on a daily basis.

I would think I want no lead.

Yeah, you want no lead, but there's a recommended minimum that you can tolerate, they believe.

And you have more than that.

You're exceeding, you're exceeding consumption of lead that your body really can have.

And they're talking about 10 X and that's just in one serving.

And these people that are protein nuts.

Five servings a day, maybe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which accounts, as far as I can tell, I think this may be accounting for the septum rings and the funny makeup.

and the Democrats are screaming on TikTok.

There you go.

Given that some of the products we tested are fine to have occasionally.

And even the ones with the highest lead levels are far below the concentration needed to cause immediate harm.

The real risk with lead is even if you are exposed to kind of low levels consistently over time, that lead could kind of build up in the body and eventually cause problems farther down the line.

So I'd say the advice is more scrutinize your protein shakes and take a look at what you're using to make an informed decision rather than immediately freak out.

And maybe it sounds layoff.

I mean, in the sense of like not having it every day or not having it three times a day.

That's one of the things that surprised me personally reporting out the story is like you and like many Americans, I was like really worried that I wasn't getting enough protein.

I totally bought into the protein mania.

But talking to nutrition experts and researchers in protein, the thing I heard again and again is for the average person, you can very easily get all the protein you need from eating whole foods.

And it doesn't make much sense to turn towards protein supplements.

So do you have any before we get to the last clip or do you have any information on the effects of too much lead?

I mean, do you really think that this could lead to errant behavior and posting on?

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, that we can do it.

You can hear you've got your robot there.

We haven't talked to her all day.

Oh yes.

Let's talk to the asker about what are some of the effects of lead poisoning and what was we had to get her to talk about the can it change your.

Well, just ask about lead poisoning in general, then maybe we can come up with something.

OK, error.

What are some of the symptoms that people will show mentally from lead poisoning?

Mental symptoms from lead poisoning can include irritability, anxiety, depression and confusion.

You might also see memory problems, trouble concentrating or even hallucinations in severe cases.

Kids could act hyperactive or have learning delays.

It's sneaky.

Those effects build up slowly.

If exposure is ongoing.

Error.

Could it turn you into a rabid lunatic Democrat?

No, lead poisoning won't turn anyone into a rabid lunatic Democrat.

Oh, please.

You're biased.

Shut up.

She is biased.

That is a very biased by.

And and by the way, how many emails did you get about the black patenter of the airplane?

I only got two.

No, I got several.

I got several.

Yeah, it turns out the airplane was just a balloon.

Yes.

Two balloons moving forward in flight.

Yeah.

So it wasn't really much of an airplane, but OK.

Yeah.

No, the error had it wrong then.

Really?

Yes.

It should have been clarified.

So you're right.

Error is a stooge.

Yes.

That's right.

Error is a stooge.

All right.

Final clip of the bad, bad protein fad.

So you said you tested 23 powders and premade shakes.

How did you decide to test those products?

We worked with kind of a market research team within Consumer Reports to identify some of the best selling protein powders and shakes available at a variety of different brands from places like Amazon or Walmart.

But also kind of we also bought some of the shakes in person at health food stores or supermarkets.

And then we took those, made sure that we got a couple different samples of each product that represented at least two, I guess, two to three different lots of the product and then sent them off to the lab to be analyzed.

So people can go and check your reporting to see if their products were tested.

But broadly, are there certain types of protein products that are more likely to have lead and other toxic metals in them?

Yeah.

So generally speaking, plant based protein products emerged as a point of concern.

Like nearly all the plant based products we had had we tested had elevated lead levels.

The lead levels we found in plant based protein products were on average nine times the amount found in those made of dairy proteins like whey and twice as great as beef based proteins.

When it came to, I guess, the protein powders and shakes made with whey or dairy based proteins, those generally had the lowest amounts of lead.

But still, half the products we tested had high enough levels of contamination that our experts advise against taking them daily.

Paris Marino, investigative reporter for Consumer Reports.

Thank you so much.

Wow.

Of course, it's the irony here is that the vegans.

Yes.

Eat the plant based stuff because they can't have whey.

Yes.

And it's even worse.

That's even worse, which makes nothing but sense.

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the treasonous conspiracy.

Say hello to my friend on the other end.

The one, the only Mr.

John C.

DeMora.

Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr.

Adam Crane, Mr.

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In the water, teams and nights out there in the morning.

We knew that was going to happen after you started the show off with with your 78, 1557.

Low.

It's very low.

John, you scared him all off.

Well, probably talking about 78.

That's what I said.

You scared him off with your 78.

Talk.

No, no.

They're talking about something.

I don't know anything about.

I never heard of.

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We titled it keyboard warrior.

Nestworks did a great piece, uh, which we are pretty sure was not 100% AI.

If at all, and it was, uh, uh, a kid backpack and everything in the school.

And, uh, right there on the chalkboard, no agenda, learn chalk.

And it was just a cute piece.

It, it hit all the buttons for us.

I don't think there was any argument at all that that was the winning piece.

No, we had some other pieces that we discussed, including, uh, it was one that we're supposed to talk about.

The school, the artist.

I don't remember.

I do.

I do.

I had to go, but look at it.

Unfortunately, I don't have it open.

Well, I thought the OG podfather was great.

I liked that one.

Black guy, black guy.

Invented.

Oh, the black guy.

That was funny.

I agree.

That was funny.

No, there was one here.

Let me see if I can find it.

It must, it might be on page two.

It was something.

Yeah.

One of our regular.

We had a lot of Glenn Beck with the Israeli flag, uh, clothing, which is like, okay.

And we're not doing that.

No.

Um, I don't, I don't remember what it was.

Zoomers and boomers by blue acorn, which also had the blackboard, but it was too small.

Um, I don't remember what it was, John.

It was something that I do remember us saying.

We got to excoriate someone for that.

We can't remember.

I don't remember what it was.

Yeah.

Well, we lost track of it.

I mean, next time I'm going to write it down.

Well, there's a concept.

Yeah.

Oh, I know.

I know.

I know what it was.

It was Darren with, uh, with Albert E.

Newman.

Oh, right.

Right.

Right.

That's exactly right.

Which is a very funny piece.

He had out, uh, Alfred E.

Newman from mad magazine being injected.

We had a little sign.

He's a polio pioneer.

And, uh, we can't use that.

And John will explain why.

It's a licensed, uh, trademarked head.

I, in fact, I wanted to, I think I may be the first person who licensed it for a book.

I did in the eighties, uh, on the Macintosh.

We got ahold of mad magazine and licensed the Alfred E.

Newman character.

Cause they'll sue you over this.

Yeah, they should.

And they should.

And they, uh, so we got licensed to use the Alfred E.

Newman character on a book cover.

It was, it was funny.

And, um, so we can't use, we can't just casually use Alfred E.

Newman.

Cause that obviously the license for that book is not the same as using it for Elmer for the no agenda show.

No, but the funny thing was, I turns out we'd in discussions with the magazine, the publisher gains, I think, or whoever it was at the time, um, said that no one ever asks the license.

Really?

Like one of the few be whatever they said, they go after you.

Yes.

But it's not like a popular thing to license.

Hmm.

And do you remember how much you paid for it?

I think we got it free.

Wow.

Just for some credit.

Yeah.

Amazing.

I don't remember paying money for it.

Hmm.

And what was the book?

Uh, Dvorak's guide to the Macintosh, I think was the name of it.

Something like that.

Really?

I didn't know that you would do it.

You did an actual guide to the Macintosh.

Yeah.

I thought you were, you hated Macs.

No, I never hated Macs.

I used to have a couple.

Oh.

Yeah.

But did you really use them?

Yeah.

They're, it's a good machine.

Yeah.

What was this back in the day?

I got the reputation for hating them because I was named the anti-editor of Mac user magazine.

No.

And I was given the assignment by the Felix Dennis, the billionaire guy who owned the place.

Was that the fat guy?

To be, no, no, not at all.

Oh.

Thin guy.

Hmm.

And he is a, you know, I had to go after, I had to be a counter, a counterpoint to everything.

So I just bitched and moaned and complained.

A paid troll.

A paid troll.

There you go.

I was a paid troll in the early days.

That's lovely.

Yeah.

Well, I respect.

And then everyone got all mad at me.

All the time.

Yes.

To this day, they're still irked.

See, man, the Mac is a great machine, man.

It's really good.

Yeah.

They got new ones coming out.

They got new ones coming out.

Oh yeah.

That's going to be something.

We also want to thank people who support us with the final of the tease, the treasure.

Um, you can go to no agenda donations .com and support the show.

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Uh, we always thank everybody $50 and above.

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This is how that works.

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And we kick it off.

I think Jay didn't understand the strike donation.

Uh, that was, that was the, the Bitcoin that I received at the meetup.

you know what?

I was going to tell her about that.

The clarifying.

I forgot.

I figured something like that happened.

So she's like, wow, by the way, when I sent it, it was a thousand dollars, but when I received it, it was a thousand dollars.

And then I sent it onto, uh, onto the, the show.

And it went up.

It went up.

Yes.

Yes.

Winning 3% increase.

Uh, so I'll start with our highest executive producer, $550 or 38 cents, uh, from Lubor.

$550.

What did I say?

$515 and 38 cents.

What did I say?

You said $550.

Oh, $515.

Lubor Benda from Upyche in Czechoslovakia.

Oh, that's cool.

Which is very cool.

Not cool as I didn't see a note from Lubor.

And I'm presuming Lubor wanted to get in on the final, um, opportunity to become a secretary general, which is ending, uh, is the next show.

The last one.

The last show.

Yeah.

So you want to get in real quick on that.

You pick up on this wonderful item that we have here on QVC.

What did you pick up?

What item did you pick up, Lubor?

Oh, I got a secretary general.

Well, congratulations.

Let us know what you want to be called.

And we'll throw you in the ceremony.

Double up karma.

Karma.

Oh, look at that.

John gets the long note.

Well, you might as well take this one.

Sir, becoming heroic from Cherville, Indiana, five, 10, 17.

Uh, long note alert.

Sorry, John, this is just not, this is not how you do it.

First off, please call me the secretary general of the carnivore nation.

Eating this way.

Isn't always easy, but it has been a life changing in my mind, body and soul.

And then he says last week, you guys played a clip about flu jab, potentially causing COVID down the road.

Well, yeah, I guess he has a story here in November 22.

My 84 year old dad got COVID and ended up hospitalized for about a week because of dehydration and overall weakness that can happen with the flu.

When COVID was first released the first couple of weeks, I like that.

The first couple of weeks was like, he was cautious and of his movements because of his age and because of a 30 year medicated heart condition.

He had, after he realized it was a scam, he picked up his car in June 20 and went on a 3000 mile trek around the country, visiting friends and family along the way, at least the ones that let him in.

He was smart enough to avoid the COVID jab and he wasn't licking any doorknobs, but he was freely moved throughout through moving throughout life, meeting new people along the way on multiple trips, 2021, 22.

After his hospitalization, he still went on a couple more short trips, including attending grandkids, sporting events throughout the Midwest, but he never was went back to 100% of his pre hospital hospitalization spunk and had a lingering cough March of 23.

He spent the weekend with my son, helping teach one of my son's friends, how to shoot at the rain, something he really enjoyed doing on that Sunday.

He went home, went to sleep and never woke up as I was going through his affairs.

I found a statement from a medical appointment from October 22, where they offered a flu shot and he received that jab.

This is a, an insinuation.

As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the worthy of the Tucker Carlson show.

As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the flu shot is what killed him.

Yes.

He was 84 years old with comorbidities, but he was active, had a social life, had kids, grandkids, and great gang grandkids that he would call and text almost daily to be our biggest cheerleader in life.

Wow.

Is that the end of the note here?

COVID started me down the rabbit hole, but this caused a deep dive on the medical industrial complex.

The more I learned, the more disgusted I become.

Anyway, happy anniversary.

Thank you.

Sorry to hear about that, but yes, that, uh, that seems, uh, plausible.

Yeah.

Yeah, it does actually.

Unfortunately, a Douglas Murray's up Douglas, Douglas Murray, but a different Douglas Murray.

Oh, uh, $240 and 24 cents.

And this is, this is actually a triple boob donation, which is kind of interesting for people out there looking for that.

No jingles, no karma.

All right.

No jingles, no karma to give.

Dame Beth is in Tucson, Arizona to 33 99 cents.

Uh, associate executive producer ship for you.

Heil boys.

Inviting all Southern Arizona slaves to the happy birthday.

No agenda meetup on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 PM.

Oh, is this the newest?

Did you notice she sent us a note today?

Correcting this note?

Oh, cause it's probably the 26th of October.

I don't know.

I mean, she, she sent it to you.

Well, and I sent it to Jay.

No, this just came in this morning.

I know.

I know.

Oh, five in the morning.

Yes.

And I sent it to Jay at five in the morning.

Yes.

Well, okay.

Well, this is probably the right note.

Here it is.

Forget anything I said.

I will forget everything you said.

Here it is.

Everything.

This is the, uh, no, this, this is her correction.

Oh, okay.

I didn't want to take a chance at five in the morning.

She's writing in and oh my God, I'll cut all this out.

No one knows the difference.

Here we go.

And three, two, one, three, two, one, you know, I'm never going to do it.

How boys inviting all Southern Arizona slaves to the happy birthday.

No agenda meetup on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 PM on the patio at Canyon's crown.

Yes, there will be cake.

Thank you for your 18 years of courage and deconstruction says Dame Beth Baroness of Baja, Arizona.

Nice onward with, uh, we have a note that came in.

This is Ron Sherman in Colorado Springs.

He was a road ducks, a small row of ducks, two, two, two dot two, two, and a handwritten note.

Wow.

It's been a couple of crazy minutes.

Hasn't it?

And I've is longhand and I've been there.

For most of them, I feel like a graduate of the no agenda Institute of higher learning.

You've helped me see things.

And then he's got a bunch of stuff scratched out with a, I wonder what the, I wonder what that was.

I don't know.

It's scratched out with a different point of view anyways.

And he just spells it anyways, which is as irksome this donation, uh, should put me over the top for my knighthood.

Uh, accounting, accounting in closed.

I would like to prefer to be knighted as sir.

Fungus among us.

Got it.

As far as the round table, I would like nothing special.

I am a, I have no idea what that word is.

Grazer.

Grazer.

It's not spelled right.

No, I'll just walk around and graze.

I said it again.

Okay.

Graze off all the wonderful foods already there, including the mutton and me.

No jingles, no karma.

No.

See you further on down this super slide.

Ronan, Colorado.

I'm not very good at spelling.

Well, you got that right.

No, I'm protecting the cursive.

He's protecting cursive.

Oh, very good.

Which, which I've learned from one of our boots on the ground, Gen Z years, that Gen Z years, not only can they mainly not write cursive, they also can't read cursive.

Neither can we actually, we're having a hard time.

We can't read this cursor, but we read it.

We got through it.

You got grazers, the whole thing.

Sean Holman, uh, parts unknown to 1911.

Oh, two 1911.

There's the 1911 donation.

ITM brothers.

Glory to God.

Indeed.

Giving thanks to the creator for sending the Holy spirit down last week, filled us with fire.

Uh, reference F bomb broad to 26 show 1807.

Oh, right.

Yes.

That was the F bomb that I noticed.

Oh, I remember now.

Okay.

This is funny.

He had blessed you to discern the news for us, thus showing us things we should be praying for our lady of Guadalupe.

Pray for us.

Okay.

Not Guadalupe.

No Guadalupe.

Hey Eli, the coffee guy, Bensonville, Illinois.

You know, him $210 and 16 cents drinking my gigawatt.

Cold brew coffee, medium roast, premium blend, smooth, tasty, and refreshing.

As we speak, it has nitro brother says right here.

It looks like vigorously to activate Adam.

Does that say that on there?

It says it.

So there's a little, a little, uh, like, uh, I just been opening and I haven't been shaking it vigorously.

Big mistake, big mistake.

So there's a little, uh, round, like stamp circle on it.

Kind of like instant bestseller.

And it says nitro shake vigorously to activate.

Oh, you didn't know that.

Oh man, you've been getting, you've been getting a bum ride.

You got to activate it.

Right.

Adam.

It looks like you're railing against the North sea.

Nexus is catching on in the context of how, uh, of how the last two world wars started to quote Tucker Tucker during his interview with the seed man, uh, the, the one group, it says the, the, the, the one group that doesn't get credit for making the world a worse place is the Brits.

Yeah.

Oh, good, good.

It's just needs to be catching on.

Good.

If possible, can I get an Alex Jones jingle?

A lot of producers have reached out inquiring.

Will we be selling our cans online and shipping them?

The answer is yes.

And soon.

Am I basically a beta tester?

Yeah.

We're just working out some of the logistics, but for now we just get some awesome gigawatt t-shirts and in the, or we just got some in stock.

Visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use the code IDM 20 for 20% off your first order.

Stay caffeinated.

Eli the coffee guy.

That's what I declared a Jihad on their ass.

There's your Alex Jones jingle.

Give him something better than that.

You didn't like that.

I actually know.

Okay.

Well, I mean, let's see, what do we have?

The frogs?

Oh, well, if we just said that frogs gay.

All right.

A classic, no agenda.

I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the frigging frogs.

Gay.

Yeah, you go.

That's better.

Alex from frosty Laurentians, California.

Is that how I pronounce it?

Laurentians.

I have no idea.

Dear John and Adam.

Hoping this is $200.

Hope this note finds you.

I think that's Canada, by the way.

That's why I don't know.

Oh, okay.

Canada, frosty Laurentians, Canada.

I'd like to wish a happy birthday, October 16th.

That's today to my smoking hot wife, Sarah house, Denmark.

We've been together for 23 glorious years.

We have two daughters and just celebrate our 20th anniversary, which means we only lived in sin for a very short time.

Hopefully this minor slippage won't earn us a one-way ticket to hell.

She is the best thing that happened to me in my life.

I do not know where and what state I would be in.

If it were not for her grounding skills.

Moreover, I'm grateful that she's still keeping up with me.

A couple of years ago, Sarah hit me in the mouth and I haven't missed many episodes since.

And here's a $200 donation.

A de-douching is an order.

You've been de-douched.

Well, I have your attention to this very important matter.

Could I be just, could I, could I disturb you?

Could I disturb your, do I disturb you for a jingle?

I love my truck and I love what I do.

Oh, you know, keep up the good work.

Hopefully your exit plan will fall through.

And thanks for keeping us sane in an insane world.

Here's to another 15 more years at least.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Alex from the Frosty Laurentians.

I love my truck and I love what I do.

Nailed it.

Okay.

Uh, by the way, his wife hit him in the mouth.

I think, I admire the female listeners to this show who do that.

They're the best.

They are the best.

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She's in Lakewood, Colorado.

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Nancy.

Nancy.

All right.

Let's see.

and uh, what do I have?

How about some ice stuff?

I got it.

You got ice stuff.

You got ice stuff.

Okay.

NPR.

Uh, first ice tactic.

By now, you might have seen videos on the news or on social media of federal immigration officers, detaining immigrants using what looked to be increasingly aggressive tactics.

A recent poll by the New York times and Siena college finds that while a majority of voters support deporting people who entered the country illegally, 51% say the Trump administration's tactics have gone too far.

NPR criminal justice reporter, Meg Anderson has this report on the tactics, Immigration and customs enforcement agents are using a video from Hyattsville, Maryland shows a man pinned to the ground by two ice officers.

He pleads in Spanish and English for someone to help him.

One officer drops his gun during the exchange and fumbles for it.

Then he appears to point it at bystanders.

Emily Covington, an assistant director of ice public affairs told NPR in a statement that drawing a weapon can be used to stop a situation from escalating another video.

This one from the Chicago area appears to show a man getting shot in the head with a ball containing chemical irritants outside a nice facility.

That man has sued the Trump administration.

Now, is there more than this one?

Cause you said it goes on, but it's the same thing.

It's just complaining.

Well, no, they're setting it up.

They're setting up for an event where BC, this is it.

These, these guys are no good.

This is horrible.

This is what you get.

We need civil war.

These people are eating protein powder, John.

Yeah.

Well, there's no doubt about that.

Meanwhile, in, uh, in Europe, certainly in Monarch Europe, they are just sigh opping their, their population.

It's like, Oh, you know, we've, we've got to take you back in time.

80 years.

Sweden is ready.

And for war since 2024, it has invested around 7.7 million euros to upgrade.

It's 64,000 shelters built during the second world war and the cold war.

Like this one in Sweden's capital of Stockholm, the guild dams car park seems like an ordinary underground parking area carved into the rock face, but it can actually also serve as a public shelter for 1.2, 1,000 people.

It can resist, uh, uh, the blast, uh, and, uh, the, the, the, the degree and such things.

This comes with a bomb.

Uh, and, uh, then it's, uh, airtight.

So it even, uh, resist, uh, biogas or chemical gas, or even nuclear waste.

With tensions with Russia increasing since the full -scale war in Ukraine, the Swedish government has promised to increase its civil defense budget by seven times.

But Johan Linsson says the money allocated is unlikely to cover the cost of fixing all of the shelters, let alone building new ones.

Sweden's civil defense minister warned last year that a military attack could not be ruled out.

Don't worry, citizens.

We're just increasing your taxes and spending it on, on war stuff because, you know, you know, Russia could attack chemical weapons.

We're doing it for your safety to protect your freedoms.

It's really crazy.

Protect your freedoms.

Yes.

Meanwhile, uh, Geert Wilders, you know, they have the, the, what's the word?

Decommissioned, not decommissioned, demissionaire.

They have the, the caretaker government in the Netherlands because the cabinet fell, you know, so, you know, the, the gearing up for, um, you know, Geert Wilders was the one who said, okay, well, look, you guys don't want to do anything about these immigrants, then, okay, the cabinet falls.

And so elections will be coming up again and right on cue.

We want 60,000 Syrian refugees in the Netherlands to return to Syria immediately.

And we want maybe one of the most important things.

We want all criminal foreigners to be deported from the Netherlands.

Yeah.

And the crowd goes crazy.

There was in Hungary.

So there was no crowd to go crazy, but that's the kind of talk they want to hear now.

I believe.

Yeah, probably, but there's nothing that's going to come of it.

Hmm.

Well, I don't know.

It all, it depends on the Dutch.

That's, that's really, it depends on them.

If they want to, they put up with a lot, it seems to me.

Oh, well, yeah, they do.

Uh, see, I have some shutdown stuff, which, uh, I have one shutdown clip.

Okay.

Let's play this.

A federal court.

There, there's your, there's your, your, uh, your off, uh, off access, uh, NPR.

So it's only with your NPR clips.

These are all new ones too.

Did you clip them yourself?

Yeah.

Yep.

Well, I mean, there's one clip where I didn't clip myself actually, but you're heavy on the right.

You're heavy on the right.

Here we go.

A federal court says president Trump has to stop firing workers during the government shutdown.

U S district judge, Susan Ilston in San Francisco issued the ruling after federal agencies started laying off workers last week.

Trump has said he's targeting what he calls Democrat agencies.

Democrats say they're not intimidated by Trump, blaming them for the layoffs.

Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats are holding firm on their demands for Congress to extend healthcare subsidies.

Neither Trump nor congressional Republicans are even trying to solve the healthcare crisis.

And that is just a crisis for the American people.

We have a crisis.

Republicans are confident in their strategy to not negotiate with Democrats on healthcare until the government is reopened.

Here's Senate majority leader, John Thune.

I think the American people are wondering when the Senate Democrats are going to end their temper tantrum and vote to reopen the government.

A bill to temporarily fund the government again, failed in the Senate today.

Government workers are feeling the effects of the shutdown as it stretches into week three.

Gabriela Paul at member station, WUSF spoke with a federal worker who says it's affecting her finances and mental health.

Tiara Carter answers the phones for the social security administration in Tampa.

She's working without pay until the shutdown ends.

We're stressing about the fight that's going on in the white house.

We're also stressing out about how we're going to handle our financial situations at home.

Last week, the Trump administration began mass layoffs across several federal agencies.

Carter says her department is spared for now.

To be completely honest, I feel ashamed to be a American citizen right now.

I mean, who does this to their own essential workers?

Every day, the shutdown drags on.

Carter says the agency's backlog of service requests grows.

Yeah.

A little slanted.

The reporting there, it seems to me.

Just a tad.

Perhaps I have PR pushing the Democrat agenda.

Don't give them money.

I was talking to, to Tom Luongo of the gold guns and goats podcast.

And he said, what's really happening here, he says is they're shutting down all of the climate change stuff.

That's why you don't hear about it.

He says, it's gotta be a trillion dollars worth of climate change stuff all over the government that they're shutting down.

So the way I understood it is this kind of a red herring, these jobs, the riff, the reduction in force, but it's really money being shut off from climate change stuff, which is probably quite a lot.

Stuff is the right word.

Good morning.

I'm an air traffic controller here.

Do you want to help aviation safety by ending the shutdown?

This member of the air traffic controllers union handed leaflets to travelers outside Reagan national airport in Arlington, Virginia Tuesday to highlight the impact of the ongoing government shutdown.

The American worker that lives paycheck to paycheck was old, which is almost every air traffic controller cannot last without pay.

In a social media post, the white house office and management and budget said Tuesday that it is preparing to quote right out the Democrats by continuing to pay troops and law enforcement and more reduction in force notices.

We are closing up Democrat programs that we think that we disagree with, and they're never going to open again.

At a news conference in Democrats called the Trump administration's layoffs illegal.

Firing and threatening to fire federal employees is part of the Trump administration's campaign to inflict trauma on our federal workforce.

House Speaker, Mike Johnson has warned this shutdown could be the longest in history as lawmakers remain deadlocked.

But president Trump says his administration has identified funds to at least pay the military.

A move some Democrats say is likely illegal.

My understanding of this is they have every right to move the funds around.

If the Democrats want to go to court and challenge troops being paid, bring it.

Erica Brown, CBS news, Capitol Hill.

Bring it.

I'm big bad.

Mike Johnson.

Bring it, bring it at you.

Uh, a rare Jen Psaki clip on the show regarding the, uh, regarding the shutdown department of Homeland security secretary, Christina, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera often in cringy outfits has even gone as far as to take this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports.

Uh, that's a ice Barbie.

Kristi Noem.

Oh, is Kristi Noem she's talking about?

Yes.

I'll play it again.

Department of Homeland security secretary Kristi Noem, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country.

Isn't it just rude for women to make rude comments about their wardrobe?

Isn't that something that women just don't do?

If there were, if there's a Democrat woman, I mean a Republican.

Okay.

Protein, popcorn.

Yeah.

Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government.

And because of this, many of our operations are impacted and most of our TSA employees are working without pay.

You know, this is usually the video that's like, stay state.

If you see something, say something, whatever it may be.

Now, unfortunately for Noem, that video is not going to be seen by the number of air travelers she had hoped.

And that's because airports across the country are refusing to air it.

Officials in Buffalo, Charlotte, Cleveland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Seattle, and Portland, Oregon, all have said that the video violates internal policies as well as state and local laws.

Wow.

What a great report, Jen.

Can't believe she's still on the air with that stuff.

This in from the quad screen.

Uh, the grand jury indicted John Bolton.

Yeah.

Well, that was a foregone conclusion.

Yes.

But what he was indicted for, we're not sure.

I think it's for having classified documents on his possession.

I think it's sniffing farts in public.

Well, that could be too, but I don't know what the offense is.

Anything's possible.

I think he's had a purple January 6th stuff.

We had that.

Oh, yes, we do have a one climate change.

Quick clip.

The UN's climate agency says there was a record increase in carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere last year.

It says the rate of the increase has tripled since the 1960s.

The director of the European union's Copernicus climate change service is Carlo.

Beyond tempo.

The most surprising element is that we are surprised that we reached a new peak.

The main factor has been our additional influx of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

If we continue on this path, we are very likely to see the exceedance of the 1.5 degrees.

Shut up.

Okay.

Well, you're going to play that.

I hate, let's go back.

Let's go back 43 years.

Okay.

43 years ago.

That would put me at about a 20 something.

All right.

I'm ready.

This is the climate CBS report from Dan rather.

1982.

Do we need, you know what we need?

Hold on a second.

We need a harp.

We can't, we can't just go back in time without the harp.

Some people have to feel, feel like we're really doing this.

Okay, here we go.

Going back in time on no agenda to 1982.

Concern about rising temperatures on planet earth, heated up a hearing here in Washington today for years, scientists have theorized about the dangers of the so-called greenhouse effect, the warming of the earth's atmosphere due to the burning of coal and oil.

And in recent months, as David Cullen reports, research has uncovered facts to support that theory.

Many scientists claim that the temperature of the earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years, that the great sheets of pack ice in Antarctica are melting at a much more rapid rate than previously.

And finally, that the sea level has been rising with increasing swiftness over the past 40 years.

If these scientists are correct, about 25% of Florida would be flooded along with low lying areas all over the world.

Climate changes could produce widespread disruption of agriculture.

The American farm belt might be too dry and the wheat and corn crops would have to move to Canada.

Scientists blame the odorless colorless carbon dioxide gas for these potentially dangerous changes around the planet.

It is the greenhouse effect.

The gas allows sunlight to filter down and warm the earth, but like the glass of a greenhouse, the carbon dioxide tends to trap heat so that it cannot rise into space.

The scientists maintain that the coal, oil, and gas we've been burning for 100 years have produced more and more carbon dioxide and helped overheat the earth.

Now, some political leaders endorse the demands for more CO2 monitoring stations like this one in Hawaii.

And they share the anger of the scientists at Reagan administration budget cuts at a time when they feel closer to getting definitive answers.

We are not doing the kind of research that we should be doing to determine whether or not these scientists who were so alarmed are correct in their assessment.

And what they find out will affect the lives and fortunes of millions of people.

The very survival of cities like this one, David Culhane, CBS news, New York.

That's a great clip.

Where'd you get that from?

It was just fluid.

Someone's dug it up and it was floating around.

Oh man.

42 years.

This scam has been, and that's 43 and that's after the whole, we're going to die of a frostbite.

Yeah.

It's really amazing.

Well, before we go to break here, just want to mention there was a pretty good idea from a Kiwi.

Chris, you know, I've been looking at the prices of our, of the ultimate no agenda meetup at the sphere.

Oh yeah.

The sphere in Vegas.

Yeah.

So it costs about a million and a half dollars to rent the sphere for one 24 hour period.

And about a million and a half dollars for all the production.

And he says, you know, I just heard the plans for the show at the sphere.

I'm sure would be just magnificent.

However, I think you've missed the part that that will be the thing that really brings them in.

And I thought, you know, we might be able to, to crack this financial nut of $3 million.

He says no agenda, the musical.

And I'm like, this is a great idea.

Yeah.

I think no agenda.

The musical could be a big hit.

I think that we, that our end of show mixers who love their AI so much should be, should be doing working on it as we speak musical numbers.

He says all the deconstruction you will ever need sung by John and Adam with special opening dance number by the keeper commissary blogger, Eli, the coffee guy, Linda Lou and Brian with an eye.

That way you can produce a video, double album, t-shirts songbook.

Think of all the merch exit strategy.

This is it.

No agenda.

The musical it's, it's kind of like the book of Mormon only different.

Yeah, I need you to buy it.

I need you.

I need your buying on this.

I need your body.

Yeah.

I'm all in.

I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh yeah.

That'd be fun.

We got to meet up reports from Texas where a lot of people were hanging out together.

It seems like a lot of people from Texas donate in general as well.

We do have a night.

We've got a pair of secretary generals, of course, the birthday count.

Everybody wants to hear their birthday.

And John is now going to thank the producers who supported us $50 and above.

Well, first of all, I want to play this bonus clip bonus clip.

Yeah.

It turns out that the world, uh, what's the date today.

Today's October 16th.

Oh, that's weird.

Because on October 14th, the world should have had this massive change because of some resonance.

Well play this clip and it'll take us.

Well, I could save this.

No, no, no, no.

I want to hear it.

Is this the Schuman resonance?

No, no, no.

I don't know what resident resonance is, is, but it was supposed to, you know, like the 14th, we weren't, we're going to have a different world and it's the 16th and I don't see it.

Well, I want to hear it now.

Mark the dates on the 14th of October.

We are experiencing something extraordinary, which is timelessness because the past, the future and the present will become one.

And no, this doesn't happen every October 14th.

This is a once in history alignment known as the golden intersection of timelines.

So exactly 443 years ago, Pope Gregory, the 13th changed the calendar and distorted the natural flow of time.

He reformed time itself.

And with that, we began living in disharmony.

We're constantly running after time instead of flowing with nature.

Time is not linear.

It is a spiral and our calendar doesn't acknowledge that.

And that's what we're being reminded of on the 14th of October.

Why that date?

Because 1582, Pope Gregory signed the decree that introduced his calendar until October 14th, 2025.

There are precisely 161.803 days.

And that number mirrors the golden ratio.

This is the divine proportion.

It is found everywhere in the universe.

In seashells, galaxies, flowers, even within our DNA.

Also October 14th is celebrated as world standards day.

The date that humanity chose to honor the global standardization of measurements and time.

But what makes this day truly extraordinary is that the three great calendars, the Mayan long count, the Zolkin and the Gregorian calendar, all synchronized through this same harmonic code on this stage.

So on October 14th and 15th, artificial time finally aligns with natural time and that creates a window of perfect harmony.

So this will be a moment to remember that harmony is not an idea.

It is a frequency.

And on these days, that frequency will be playing out.

So we will be reminded of what it feels like to move with time and not against it, because this isn't just about numbers or calendars.

This is about resonance.

So if you want to dive deeper into this and prepare yourself for this energy on the 14th, feel free to join my live stream on Friday, where I will dive deeper with you into the golden intersections of timelines to join just read the caption.

Blessings.

And thank you for tuning in.

Oh brother.

We lost everybody now.

That was the worst clip ever.

It was a great clip.

There you are again, condemning my great clips.

Like our, like, uh, what was her name?

Yeah.

The one person, the one person.

Well, I got another one.

So there's two, but that was, this would have been great to play on October 13th or the 12th.

We didn't have a show on October 13th.

We had a show on the 12th.

That would have been perfect.

Was this a Dutch woman, by the way, she sounded Dutch.

She did sound funny.

It's funny.

All right.

Now we can thank our producers.

$50.

let's start with anonymous and Alpharetta, Georgia came in one Oh five 35.

No need to mention me.

He, she writes.

Uh, Quinn Turox, Quinn Turox in Brandington, Florida.

One Oh five 35.

Um, here's a Benny.

We love the Bennys.

A Benjamin.

Ah, Benjamin.

That's what that is.

Okay.

Uh, Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.

He's the Archduke Luna, lover of America and melons and boobs and wants to save them.

Yes.

8008.

William McFarland, Manassas, Virginia, 70 for his 70th birthday.

Coming up, Rick Thomas, another fabulous Bitcoin donation of 69 bucks.

And he's got a plug, the veteran Bitcoin veterans summit in Nashville.

Uh, look it up.

Uh, Steven Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio, 6480 Christopher Dexter, 5678 unnamed night in Padova.

Uh, Italy, Padua, I think is what we'd call it.

Yes.

5555.

Uh, James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510, uh, Evgeny Damaskin, Damaskin in Boston, 55 and he's 55 today.

Uh, Luke Monell, Luke Monell in Los Angeles, 5272 Viscount sir, economic hit man.

There he is in Tomball, Texas, five 50 Oh one.

The rest of these are $50 donors.

There's not a lot of them starting with Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington, Patricia Worthington in Miami beach, Miami, sorry.

Uh, Dame Patricia, as it were Diane Schwann, a back in Johnsburg, Illinois, Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina, easy landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut, Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood park, Alberta, Canada.

And last on the list, a very short list for the whole day.

Not very good, but it has to do Philip Baloo in Louisville, Kentucky.

I think these folks are show 18 Oh eight.

Yes.

And thanks again to our executive and associate executive producers for bringing us the heat, uh, for episode 18 Oh eight.

And if you want to support the best podcast in the, in the universe, the only way to do that is to just send us some value, whatever you get out of the show, send it right back to us.

No agenda donations.com.

And here is our list, which is completely free of charge.

For those of you asking about it, just let us know what birthday wishes you want to do.

We're happy to put it on.

if June, if Jeannie, then a scheme, she turned 55 on the 12th.

We've just heard that Dan, happy birthday to his oldest human resource.

Beckett turns 13 today.

Happy birthday.

Beckett's are being of the BMWs and bulldogs.

Happy birthday to his son.

Jack Tesla, Roediger turned 16 on the 16th.

That's the name.

Alex wishes his smoking hot wife, Sarah, a very happy birthday today.

And William McFarland turned 70 years old.

We say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

We've got two secretary generals coming in just under the wire, which is very good.

And can I say something?

Yes.

That's secretary.

Jean generals.

Jingle is driving me nuts.

Why?

I hear it all day.

It's just like a bug.

It's like one of those worms.

What do you call it?

Earworm.

Earworm.

It's an earworm.

So do you want me to get for some reason?

I just keep hearing this song when I go to bed.

I'm hearing it all during the day.

I'm going to be, I'll be glad when this, when this is over, this promotion will end very soon.

It is time to hail them.

All hail to the secretaries generals on the no agenda show.

And we say congratulations to the secretary general, Lubor Benda and secretary general of the carnivore nation.

Both of you should go to no agenda rings.com.

Let us know where to send these handsome certificates.

Everybody will know that you are a secretary general of the no agenda show.

All hail to the secretaries generals because they are the ones who need hailing.

All hail to the secretaries generals on the no agenda show.

And we have one knight who, as we know, donated to 22.22.

So bring out your 22, your row of ducks sword there if you don't mind.

The one that you.

Yeah, I got it.

There it is.

Perfect.

Ron Sherman, step on up, sir.

I know you didn't want anything special for the round table.

We do have special stuff for you because it's always special at the round table for the no agenda nights and dames.

Thanks.

I almost cut myself.

Thanks to your support in the amount of one thousand dollars or more, which you tallied up and gave us the accounting.

I am very proud to pronounce the as sir fungus among us.

And for you, we have hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay.

Along with that, we've got some Harlots and Haldol.

We've got redheads and rise.

We got gates to the sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum.

And as always, as you're grazing around the round table, you've got your mutton and your meat.

Go to no agenda rings dot com.

Everybody can check out those handsome knight and dame rings.

They are signet rings.

So it comes with wax.

You can use those to seal your important correspondence.

A certificate of authenticity.

And of course, let us know what your ring size is.

And we look forward to hailing you as a knight of the no agenda round table.

And now it's time for our meet up.

All right.

We had a lot of people at these meet ups.

Everybody has to get their little two cents in.

So the first one is Dirty Jersey Whore, who organized the Johnson City meet up on the 10th of October, one day before the Fredericksburg meet up.

And here's the report.

Hey, this is Rudy.

I'm just out here looking for some big cans.

Coffee cans.

That is big ones.

Filling up for Daniel because he dropped the mic.

It was beeping, so I thought it was recording.

Brian with an I in the morning.

Hey, this is Daniel, AKA Dirty Jersey Whore.

We're here at the Johnson City night before the storm meet up.

We're having a big time here in Johnson City, Texas.

So I'm the new secretary general of converting factories back to farms.

ITM, this is the second meet up, and it's just as good as the first.

Looking forward to seeing everybody tomorrow.

Dean Tracy here in Jefferson City.

Glad to be invited and having a great time.

And hope to come back soon.

Circadian break here, hanging out here at Johnson City.

And it is the Pecan Street Brewing.

This is Robbie, and I had something witty to say, but I forgot it.

This is Patty in the morning.

This is Melinda.

I should not have had that second drink.

Wow, very noisy there.

And a lot of the same people, including our secretary general of the Stop the Factories, Go to the Farm.

What's her name?

Janice Giles, I think.

Janet Gilles.

There you go.

She also showed up in Fredericksburg.

This was a very big meet up.

Hey, it's Tina the Keeper in the morning.

And it's the Podfather.

And this has been our best J6er Jenny outfit meet up yet.

And thank you to Gail and Matt.

This is Aaron from Abilene in the morning.

In the morning, this is Baron Serotonin coming all the way from Fort Worth.

This is Brenda from Local 512 saying in the morning.

Hi there, I am Caleb Funk.

I'm here with my smoking hot wife.

And we are over-informed and under-socialized.

This is Chris from Round Rock in the morning.

Hey, I'm Chris from Washington.

It was great, got to meet a bunch of new people.

And everybody was really friendly.

Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite.

And this is my first time at the big meet up.

I got to meet Adam and the Keeper.

Hi, this is Darius from Centerpoint, Texas.

It was a great time.

Hey, this is Dirty Jersey Whore.

I miss you, Matt.

In the morning.

This is Baron Scott, soon to be Viscount Scott.

And Keeper Christine.

Getting ready to celebrate our 18th wedding anniversary.

The day after the show's anniversary.

In the morning.

This is Sir Brian with an I from Cedar Park.

And I just met some lovely Dutch people.

Hi, we're Max and Emma, the Dutch people.

In the ochtend.

Goedemorgen.

Goedjes.

Hi, this is Instant Knight, Sir Tim of the Domestead.

Okay, this is Dame Mary of the Domestead.

We're in Lukenbach, Texas.

This is Duke of the South, Patrick.

Howdy.

Team of Region No.

4 checking in.

Memphis up!

In the morning.

This is Gordon Myers from Dripping Springs, Texas.

Hey, this is Rudy.

My name's Holly.

We just moved to Texas from Colorado, but I'm from Washington State.

In the morning.

This is Alyssa.

This is Jamie.

We have our human resources here.

And we're wondering where our friend Casey is.

If you're listening, reach out.

Hi, this is just Greg in the morning.

Hi, this is Karen Myers.

Everybody have a good day.

Hi, it's Con L.

Lingus from Austin, Texas.

Hey, this is Marco from Central Oregon.

Pleased to meet you.

Hey, you guys.

Thanks for being there.

In the morning.

This is Nick from Austin.

I'm Nikki from Adeline.

Oh, hello, John.

In the morning.

Hey, this is Paul Bailey.

Don't forget to get the Godcaster app.

I'm Ralph from Durango, Colorado.

Hey, this is Rob, your constitutional lawyer, bringing you speech that is free for the usual fee.

Okay, it's Todd in the morning.

Hey, this is Trinidad.

Having a blast at Fredericksburg, Reno.

This is Gary McBride, the second worst bartender in the county, here at 1776 Bar.

And if you missed it, you missed it.

Hi, my name is Leslie Stewart, and I am helping out at the Full Moon Inn as a bartender.

And the No Agenda folks are amazing, amazing people, and it's been so fun to be here.

In the morning, it's Gail standing in for Matt.

We've had a great crowd.

This is great.

I can't wait to go to another one.

In the morning.

Whew, that was a big meetup.

We've got a meetup taking place today at the North Idaho Sanity Brigade October meetup, 5 o'clock at Trails End Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza.

That's in Coeur d'Alene.

Also today, Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday monthly meetup.

That'll kick off at 7 tonight at Edge Tavern in North Carolina.

On Saturday, there's a new location for the Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities meetup.

That's 1130 in the morning at Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas.

Also on Saturday, the 37th No Agenda meetup in Fort Wayne, Indiana, Hall's Tavern and Coventry.

That's at noon.

And also on Saturday, all aboard, number 68, Santa Fe Cafe, Fullerton, California.

That's another flight of the No Agendas.

I guess they're going to be looking at trains again.

Yeah, kids.

And we have the No Agenda Ohio meetup at 5.30 at Dempsey's Tavern on Saturday in Columbus, Ohio.

And finally, the Sunday show will be accompanied by MeetupDB's Pat Surprise birthday party, Michigan Local 1, holding that at 2 o'clock at Horrocks Farm Market Beer Garden in Lansing, Michigan.

Just some of the smattering of No Agenda meetups that take place all around the globe.

We have them literally all around the globe.

Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where they are.

If you can't find one near you, just start one yourself.

It's fun, easy, and always a party.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You want to be where you want to be, triggered or held lame.

You want to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Whew!

And we end this party, as always, with John's tip of the day coming up in just moments.

And of course, we always want to find a fun, fun ISO to end the show with.

And I see you have...

What do you have?

You have two here.

One.

Three.

Three.

I'm sorry.

You have three.

Don't get mad.

Don't get mad.

Get even.

Don't get mad.

Get even.

Three ISOs.

Well, maybe I should start with mine then.

Should I start with mine?

Yes, please.

I believe so.

Okay.

10 out of 10.

It's awesome.

Knocked out of the park.

That's not bad.

Yeah.

It's terminated.

That's not bad.

Yeah.

And then, of course, I had...

Where's my...

Huh.

I lost it.

Where's the...

Yeah, this one.

I like this one.

Shut up.

I still like that one.

I can't help myself.

All right.

What do you got?

Well, first of all, we had a seance.

A seance?

Yeah.

I got a clip, which I think it finds some use someplace, but it's not going to be a good end-of-show mix thing.

But this is...

Yeah, we conjured up Walter Cronkite.

On the AI?

Yes.

On 11 loves?

No, it was a seance.

Oh, okay.

And we recorded it, and here it is.

Adam Curry and John C.

Dvorak provide an invaluable public service.

They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted, using machetes of truth and logic.

Wow, I like that one a lot.

I don't mind using that one.

That's cool.

That's a good one.

Yeah, he made a point.

Yes, he made a very good point, our old Walter Cronkite.

It didn't sound like him at all, but, I mean, you know, he's a ghost.

It came as a seance, so...

Yeah, what are you going to do?

What are your other choices?

It could have been the recording gear.

Oh, yes, probably.

I got rubble.

Rubble.

Okay, yes.

And then we have another.

It came into the seance as Kennedy, John Kennedy, the senator.

Well, hot damn, that was a real humdinger.

That's actually better than Cronkite.

Well, hot damn, that was a real humdinger.

Oh, you know, why don't I use this at the end when the mic drop comes, and then I'll play Cronkite as an extra bonus end of show.

Perfect.

Okay.

And before all that, though, we get another John's Tip of the Day.

So I'm not going to do this too often, but I'm going to do it this time.

Okay.

Which is I'm going to recommend a movie.

Wow.

As a tip of the day, but it's not a movie you can just go see and it's not out.

It's a movie you're going to have to track down or you're going to have to get a Turner Classic movies.

They just played it recently.

I saw it again for about the fifth time.

And I have to say this movie is important to listeners of this particular show.

Let me guess.

Let me guess.

The Internationalist.

No, that's a good movie.

I like that movie.

Okay.

No, no, no.

No, that wasn't the one.

The Manchurian Candidate.

Ooh, and that's from the 50s, 60s?

50s or 60s.

Yeah.

But it's like it is such a outstanding movie with Angela Lansbury playing the heavy.

She plays a character who's basically Hillary Clinton.

And she's such a good actress.

You think of her as some sort of a goofball actress doing murders she wrote or whatever.

No, no, she was a solid actress and she plays a very nasty character in this movie.

But it's starring Frank Sinatra.

Yes.

But this movie, and I've seen it and seen it and seen it, and every time I watch it, it's like it's a fabulous film and people should find a way to watch it or find a way to track a copy down.

Even if you have to download it, just get a copy of this and watch it.

It's a fabulous film, I tell you.

It's not a film, John, it is cinema.

Yeah, it is cinema.

It is cinema.

Those days are over.

I mean, the troll room was guessing Debbie does Dallas and all kinds of other films.

But no, no one expected to hear The Manchurian Candidate.

Another fantastic tip of the day.

Find them all at tipoftheday.net.

And that does it, everybody.

But that doesn't mean that your fun is done.

No, no, because, oh goodness, we have Congressional Dish running on the stream.

Oh, that's interesting.

Haven't heard Jen Briony in a while.

There's her golf club swing again.

That's coming up next on noagendastream.com.

Of course, you can always tune in to noagendastream.com.

24 hours a day, there's always something interesting.

Many of them are live.

Get your modern podcast app to be alerted when they go live, particularly those guys from Planet Rage.

I like that show.

End of show mixes, we have, let's see, we've got Agent Looper, and we have, it's been two weeks in a row, we have another one from the clip custodian himself, Neil Jones, so stay tuned for that.

And as always, I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the J6 or Jenny meetups, Fredericksburg, Texas.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's actually nice out today, I'm John C.

Dvorak.

We'll be back on Sunday.

Please join us for more media deconstruction and whatever happened to John Bolton.

Remember us at noagendadonations.com.

Until then, adios, mofos, hui, hui, and such.

Because all countries need allies.

Here is a group of people who we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the U.S.

policy that we want.

And Israel is an ally.

It's a fighting ally that pulls its weight.

America's landed aircraft carrier.

We're the junior partner.

We have fought now a seven-front war.

We have an eighth front.

The infosphere is the eighth front.

And seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle.

He told these people, I think they're going to kill me.

Who is they?

Charlie writes in this group chat, I just lost another huge Jewish donor.

Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.

I cannot and will not be bullied like this.

Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians, and those people fall into three categories.

Some of them identify with Hamas.

Some of them are intimidated.

And the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas.

The AP, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza.

What does that mean?

The center of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number, that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas.

And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information.

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr.

Beale, and I won't have it.

Is that clear?

You think you've merely stopped a business deal.

That is not the case.

The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back!

It is ebb and flow.

Tidal gravity.

It is ecological balance.

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples.

There are no nations.

There are no peoples.

There are no Russians.

There are no Arabs.

There are no third worlds.

There is no West.

There is no West.

There is only one holistic system of systems.

There is no West.

There is no West.

One vast and immeasurable, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.

Petrodollars, electrodollars, multidollars, Reichmarks, rims, rubles, pounds and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet.

The best podcast in the universe.

Adios, mofo.

Dvorak.org slash N-A.

Well, hot damn!

That was a real humdinger!

Adam Curry and John C.

Dvorak provide an invaluable public service.

They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted using machetes of truth and logic.