Episode Transcript
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Speaker 2Hello all, this is Ryan Barrel from the Official Deaf Crocodile podcast.
Just wanted to give a quick intro.
This was mentioned in the last episode of the podcast that we were going to be doing this as a bonus episode.
This is when Dennis and Craig were on the Incinerator podcast that has become dormant for a while now, But this was a really great episode and I hope you all enjoy this.
Speaker 3What a potties and Welcome to the Incinerator, a subverted pop culture elimination game where guests take turns sending titles from a list of thirteen into the Incinerator, inflicting varying amounts of damage along the way.
I'm your host, Billy ray Bruton, and with me is my co host and producer of the pod, Mister Disconnected himself, Ryan Verrel.
Speaker 2Hello, I uh got it.
I feel so out of practice.
I think we haven't done one of these in like four months.
Speaker 3I know if people listening new how anxious we've been like the past hour.
But getting our thoughts together and getting everything organized because this is the first episode we've done in a while since we took our hiatus in the middle of season two, and you know, we spent the downtime sort of revamping the show in minor ways, not huge ways, but in ways that you'll certainly notice, you know, trying to streamline it a little bit, trying to make it a little more consistent.
Speaker 4Ryan, you want to add to.
Speaker 2That, I think we're gonna make it much more enjoyable, listen to something that everybody can follow in a way that is still chaotic, but maybe a little less frenetic.
Speaker 4Yeah, we always had a tendency.
Speaker 3I mean, if you go back and listen to our episodes, which a lot of you do, no episode is the same.
They're like butterflies, they're like fingerprints.
The rules would change on a dime.
And while there is a certain amount of delight in that kind of chaos, it can be a bit exhausting, not only for our guests sometimes but certainly for us.
And so we're like, let's just take it down, let's make it a little more mainstream, but still kind of retain some of that you know, that punk rock joe hands and energy, if you will.
So, Yeah, we're excited to be back.
We're excited you're here, and we're even more excited for our guests.
Ryan tell us about who is subjecting themselves to this nonsense.
Speaker 2Speaking of guests, to the people that I respect more than most in the world.
Lately, I have one of the individuals from Deaf Crocodile that has been on my channel quite a few times.
Dennis has been there quite a few times as well.
But the big thing is you probably watched or listened to our Boutique Labels incineration last year.
This is the winning label behind the Boutique Labels Incineration.
We have Deaf Crocodile in the flesh.
We got Dennis Bartok, Craig Rogers.
Thank you guys for doing this so much.
Speaker 4Hey, guys, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 5Yeah, it was I've enjoyed listening, so it's kind of fun to be doing it.
Speaker 4Well, you say that, now give it a few minutes.
Speaker 3So I'm curious, because I'll be honest, when we knew that you guys were coming on, I had this whole handful of ideas about, oh, what are they going to want to incinerate?
What made you decide to land on?
And this, I guess is for the audience, the films of Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 5It was a couple of things.
Speaker 6It was I needed to pick something I could actually talk about, and I've seen and I've seen most of his films, and I thought it would be fun to force Ryan to talk about Clint Eastwood for two hours.
Speaker 4So about missing something.
Speaker 3It's Ryan like a notorious Clint Eastwood hater.
Speaker 2I want to hear Craig's take on this first.
Speaker 6He's mentioned it a couple of times on his show when whenever his names come up, it's usually he's usually you know, cringed.
Speaker 4There.
Speaker 2There are a lot of home video releases dedicated to Clint Eastwood over the last couple of years, primarily from Keno Laber, and every time they come up on the channel, it's something where I go, you know, I've never been to this massive worshpur of Clint Eastwood.
I like some of what he's done, some of the biggest ones especially, but the biggest like secret behind it all.
I just haven't put the time and to watch most of them.
So most of this is going to be new to me today.
I will happily listen to all of it.
But I mean, honestly, I respect the opinion of these two more than most, so just eager to go through that.
Speaker 4Well, I think I'm the oldest maybe here, so fifty eight almost fifty nine, and I mean I grew up loving plenty Eastwood movies, still love them.
You know.
He represents one of the last great like old school Hollywood movie stars who also managed to become a really phenomenal filmmaker and is a mass like an amazing body of work as a director.
So so so yeah, I'm an unapologetic huge Clin Eastwood fan.
Speaker 2Good And when.
Speaker 6We were you know, looking through his filmography to come up with the list, I was kind of struck by like he had some runs of like, you know, five years that he put out five huge hits like directed and start in.
Speaker 5A movie every year.
That was terrific, And it was like, that's incredible.
Speaker 4Yeah, And I think there may be others, but I think he's one of the last great stars of like the mid sixties who is still like huge box office.
Speaker 2That's probably true.
Speaker 4The fact that he was actually you know, Grand Darino is a huge hit and the Mule and like he's still like packing him in, putting butts in seats is amazing and then making movie after movie.
He just does not stop.
Speaker 5Yeah, he's been on screen for like seventy years.
Speaker 4Just it's amazing.
Yeah, he's going strong, and well I'm gonna be going strong, but he's going he's still going.
We know that much.
Speaker 3Well good, Well, you know I kind of gave you gentlemen the rundown before we started recording on the rules, but the folks who did not get to hear it, and I'm sure you could enjoy a refresh as well as our listening audience.
I'm going to go through these rules because some of them have changed, and so I want everybody to be on the same page for this.
This is how this nonsense is going to work today.
Dennis and Craig sent me their lists.
With some alchemy, we arrived at a list of twelve, but we allow our fabulous Patreon army to add one title as well, for a total list of thirteen from which these gentlemen will be incinerating.
Speaker 4Now.
Speaker 3Some of the titles on the list belonged to both players, meaning that they showed up on each of their lists, and some showed up on only one, and those are their unique picks.
There will be three rounds Round one will be picks thirteen through eight.
Those will be incinerated for everyone except the players, meaning they can keep their memories, but everyone else will not know the movie existed.
Cut seven through four will be incinerated back to opening weekend, so if you saw it opening weekend, you're all good.
If you did it in that movie never existed for you.
Incinerations three and two are incinerated for everyone including the players, but preserved for future generations, meaning if you saw the film before the episode recorded, you'll have your memory wipe.
If you did not, you're all good.
The winning film, the last film standing, if you will, has zero damage inflicted upon it, so it will still be available to enjoy for the entire world in perpetuity.
And so those are the realms of the show.
We have an engineer Ryan is that engineer say Hi Ryan Hi?
Speaker 2Ryan.
Speaker 3Ryan gets a couple of special abilities as engineer First.
Ryan gets to advance a title to the final five.
The players will not know what title that is until they at TEMP to incinerate it.
It can be any title on the list.
Ryan also gets to choose five land minds that he places on various numbers throughout the order.
When in the landmine is triggered, the player who triggers it stops what they're doing and deals with the chaos before them.
Land Mines can reward or penalize, and they can change the entire game.
Three landmines have been assigned in round one, two have been assigned in round two, and none can be deployed in the final three.
Finally, almost finally, in good consciences, Ryan and I as co hosts, each get one in good conscience, and our players get two each.
And in good conscience allows you to stop a film from being incinerated, save it temporarily, and then replace it with another film, we get one each.
They get two each.
Now, let's say that we incinerate a film that is wiped from one or all of our collective memories, and that film is brought up later in the episod.
So, well, that's a fuck up, and because of that, we're gonna get penalized if we do it.
So if Dennis or Craig do it, they get a point against them.
If we're Ryan and I do it, we get a point against us.
If either side gets the three points, the other side gets a special bonus privilege.
If you will Now I know all of that made all the sense in the world.
Dennis and Craig, I have a question.
The questions aren't allowed.
Now go ahead, Dennis, Philip.
Speaker 4Did Philip K.
Dick come up with the rules to the name phil helped?
Yes, seriously, every rule is like and it's wiped from your memory, but amazing we bring it back later.
Yes, this show was the dream of Electric sheet.
Speaker 3This show is a playful and joyful combination of the screen drafts and film spotting podcasts.
So, uh, we can blame them for all of that chaos.
They're the ones who inspired it.
But yes, our job is to make you as pissed off an ornery as possible.
So I hope you're prepared to go on this horrible journey.
Speaker 4Well, I'm gonna let Craig take care whoops, I'm gonna let Craig take care of that whichever way.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm usually pretty chill.
Speaker 2I don't think so.
I think that it is probably a good time to discuss cinephile based trivia.
Speaker 3Yeah, so that's how we decide who goes first.
I'm gonna give these gentlemen an actor.
They're gonna take turns naming films the actor was in until someone's like doi and and can't do it anymore.
And the winner of trivia gets to decide if they want an extra in good conscience, which would take their total to three, or if they would like to choose the order, meaning if they go first or their opponent goes first.
And so, gentlemen, if you're ready, I have your actor.
Speaker 5We start.
Speaker 3We start alphabetically, so Dennis does go first.
Speaker 7Uh, your actor is Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels, the Man, the Myth, the Purple Rose himself, Speed.
Speaker 2Okay, dumb and dumber.
Speaker 4There we go.
Uh, it's in the Squid in the Whale.
Speaker 3It's correct, Okay.
Speaker 5I think he was in the second thumb and Dumber.
He was.
Speaker 4We'll give you that one.
He was dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2Two.
Speaker 4Yes, well he wasn't.
He wasn't in Speed too, because he got blown up in the first one.
Damn it.
I can't use that one.
No, here's a hint.
He is in one film that we could be discussing today.
Or Jeff Daniels.
I think Craig goes first.
Okay, I'm gonna get County down officially.
Three two, one, okay, Craig, if you can think of one more, one more, you picked it.
You picked a good one because he's okay, well a little bit like cinematic wallpaper.
You know he's there, but you don't really think about him.
Speaker 5Well, okay, so neither of you the TV series he did with the.
Speaker 3Yeah, since neither of you know, we're now in sudden death meaning I'm going to give you hints on a title until one of you gets it, and the winner is wins trivia.
So I'll give you some hints.
He was in a he's in a film that you don't want to watch if you're terrified of spiders.
Who said that first ride?
Speaker 2Dennis started first, but Craig finished first.
Speaker 3Well, we generally get started first.
Dennis did start first.
So Dennis, that means you do have the choice.
Speaker 4Okay, you can get You know, Craig and I are in the same team.
Speaker 3Are No, you're not a team at all.
Second, No, you're not a team at all.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4No, this is not a friendly situation.
Just terrible.
All right, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 3So would you like an extra in good conscience?
Or would you like to decide who goes first?
Uh?
Speaker 4I mean I'll take an extra in good conscience, I guess excellent choice.
Speaker 3Excellent choice.
Uh, since you're choosing that, that means, Craig, you decide who goes first.
Speaker 5Dennis goes first?
Speaker 4Okay, are well good business partners.
Well, before we get.
Speaker 3Into who goes first, or before we get into the first pick, I need to tell everybody what the films are that we're actually deciding between.
So here's the list of the films that did make the cut.
So I'm gonna list them all.
Some are shared picks, some are unique picks, and one of them is our patron pick.
And these are the titles.
The Outlaw, Josie Welles, High Planes, Drifter, Unforgiven, Mystic, River, in the Line of Fire, Escape from Alcatraz, Grand Turino, Million Dollar Baby, The Beguiled, A Fistful of Dollars, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, A Perfect World, and Dirty Harry?
What do we think of this list on the whole?
Is this a nice.
Speaker 6Holistic representations on that list that I would throw in an incinerator?
Speaker 5And even even one of those is for grudgingly?
Yeah, those are some great mo Yeah.
Speaker 4Man, he's made way too many great films and.
Speaker 3There's a lot of great ones that aren't even on here too, which is just as many great ones that are.
Speaker 4You go through this guy's filmography as actor and director and actor director, and it's just so it's an impressive.
Speaker 3So one of these films was chosen by our patrons, and since it was chosen by our patrons, it gets a couple of it gets a little extra gas behind it.
So if you accidentally stumble and play that title in round one, it automatically advances to the top five.
If you stumble around and play that film in round two, you get a penalty and your opponent gets two picks in a row.
So you're not encouraged to play it, but well you don't even know what it is, but if you did, you would be You're not, You're encouraged.
It's kind of up to you on whether not you want to, you know, risk moving it, risk the penalty, maybe let it land comfortably in the middle somewhere.
Speaker 4It's totally up to y'all.
It's totally up to y'all.
And however you decide to do, our.
Speaker 3Patrons they will forgive you because they are loving forgiving people.
Speaker 4I feel like I'm doing the verbal SATs again or something.
It's wonderful.
It's just crazy.
Speaker 3Okay, Well, all right, Ryan, do they have their lists yet?
Speaker 2I'm still working on it because again, you threw a wrench and I'm trying to figure out which one I had extra that you didn't.
Speaker 3How dare you suggest that I would throw a wrench in anything and make anything more complicated.
I don't believe it.
Ryan is getting the list ready to send over.
We have our rules set, we know what we're about to do.
I will say.
Finally, my last comment on this list is I would say I have a soft spot for later year Clint Eastwood and there are some titles not on here that I'm like, uh, it would have nice, is it?
Because I feel like he got real experimental and weird in his later years and certain insert with certain films.
You know, one of his recent one comes to mind, which did not make this list, But I'm thinking of Prime Macho, which is just a wild little movie that I'm like, how is Clint Eastwooen making this in his nineties?
Speaker 2Well, I just discovered the air, so I want to share you took the one off that I was advancing in the top five, so I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3Oh Jesus, well, I'll explain to you why I had to off Mike.
Speaker 2Ridiculous.
Speaker 3There it is there.
Speaker 2It is that list in the private chat, gentlemen, that's the one that we are going off of today.
Speaker 5Okay, the second one.
Speaker 4Okay, yes, yes, it's no easier than the other.
Speaker 5No, I made a mistake in picking something that I love so well.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's that.
People are deal with that problem all the time.
I need to.
Speaker 4What is it?
What game is it?
Is it screw merry or kill?
Isn't that the game?
Speaker 3Yes, it's very similar to to.
Speaker 4To Mary Kill.
Yes, very similar.
Okay, yeah, yeah, so this is like this, whether you get like three people that you and you're gonna have to eliminate one of them and marry one of them, it's just great.
Speaker 3Well, it's time to rip off the band aid, Dennis.
Uh, please tell us, or to actually tell me.
You're going to deliver your choice in the chat.
You're going to type in the title that you would like to be incinerated.
I will announce it, uh and we'll go from there.
Okay, and same with you, Craig.
Speaker 5Uh, all right, so I just play it in private chat.
Speaker 2When it's your pick, you're gonna you're gonna type it in private.
Speaker 3Chet Yeah, yeah, So don't be looking, because I want to give the fan fair now.
Okay, Wow, I was actually not expecting this one so soon.
Uh So, Dennis, why don't you explain why you're kicking off the incineration at number thirteen within the line of Fire.
Speaker 4Well, he's got fire in the title, so you got to throw it into the incinerator first.
It's just, you know, it's a fine action film, but I don't think it's got a hell of a lot more going for it.
You know, there's a bunch of like Save the President Air Force one.
It's yeah, I think I saw it when it came out, and I don't think I've ever felt the need to revisit it since then.
So I'm gonna especially compared to a bunch of the other films on this list, which I think there's some absolute masterpieces, I think I think we can sacrifice in the line of fire.
Greg your thoughts.
Speaker 6I realized I'm going to feel this way about every title, But yeah, it's considering.
I, you know, put my list together of my favorite so it's this is painful.
John Malkovich is brilliant.
The cat and mouse between he and Clint is brilliant.
It's directed, you know, it's exciting.
Wolfgang Peterson directed it.
It's It's the only knock I give it is they try to introduce a little romance, a thing going on where like he's old enough to be her dad.
Speaker 5But other than that, it's it's a fantastic movie.
It's just terrific.
But also everything else on that list.
Speaker 6Is so and there's definitely someone that I will have to save my good conscience for because there's a few there that just absolutely can't be burned.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 3In a Lot of Fire is one that I absolutely loved when I was younger.
I hadn't say it in a long time, but compared to some of the films on this list, I understand it going a little bit lower.
Even though John Malkovich is incredible and you could you could add up the ages of all of his leading women in the nineties and it wouldn't add up his age today.
Oh yeah, it was ridiculous.
Ryan final thoughts in the Line of.
Speaker 2Fire Again, this is one that I've not seen.
It's I'm not gonna have many thoughts today.
Let's just bypass me.
I'm going to say the engineer has nothing to say about this placement, and we are good to carry on.
Speaker 6Till It's a fantastic nineties action movie.
It's it's one of the best nineties action movies.
Like, just just.
Speaker 4See it, Yeah, just see it, ornery bitch.
Speaker 2Chastised today, I apologize.
Speaker 4Do we have to forget that this title ever existed?
Speaker 3You don't, because this is the first round and it's incinerated for everyone.
Speaker 4Exciting.
Okay, so I.
Speaker 3Have to forget this title existed.
Ryan does, but y'all don't.
And speaking of which, it is time to send in the line of fire into the mouth of hell.
It is now incinerated.
So Craig, we're over to you for the number twelve incineration.
Send it to me in the chat and be prepared to cry.
Speaker 2About it every single pick.
His eyes are glazing over with existential dread.
Speaker 3This is the moment when someone realizes what they got into.
Speaker 5This is the only one that won't hurt.
Speaker 4Boy.
Speaker 3Uh oh, I have no idea what that means.
I don't.
Oh there it is okay, well wow, interesting.
Well, at number twelve, Craig has decided that The Beguiled is not so damn beguiling Craig why the Beguiled at number twelve?
Speaker 6To be fair, I haven't seen it in a long time, and it's it definitely is the black sheep in his filmography.
Speaker 5It is not really like anything else he's done.
And I guess maybe because I like what he does, this one just kind of is like, what is this?
Speaker 4Am I am?
I allowed to move around?
Speaker 3Do you need to pay?
Are you so?
Are you so discombobulated that you need to pace about?
Speaker 8No?
Speaker 4I want to show you guys something.
Oh, yes, we'll we'll narrate for the listening audience.
Okay, all right, So so this is just going to be audio not video.
Speaker 5Yes, I was, I was.
Speaker 4Well, then you you guys will get to see as I'm moving around.
Speaker 5It is.
Speaker 6It is the rare, maybe the only Clint Eastwood movie I was bored watching.
Speaker 4Okay, okay, so I'm going to show you what's on the wall of my house here.
Speaker 3Oh he is now showing as a poster and I believe an Italian poster from The Beguile it which which makes it look like a Shallo film.
Speaker 4It does, which is one of the things that I love about the poster is that it's a beautiful poster, insane, creepy red hand dripping in blood, and it's got the TITLEE Bravo del Soldato, Jonathan.
Speaker 5I'm sorry, Dennis.
Speaker 4I will.
I will also share that many many years ago, when I was programming for the American Cinema Tech, I kept trying to get Eastwood to come for a retrospective, and he every time he politely declined that I suggested, you know, we screened some of the films that he had directed or acted in.
And then I had the bright idea that we would do at Don Siegel retrospective who I just filmed I love and uh and Eastwood agreed, and we screened Dirty Harry and The Beguiled and he came and talked about them.
Speaker 2So oh wow.
Speaker 4Yeah, So I like, I think The Beguiled is a really weird, wonderful.
Speaker 5Hone east would like.
He'll show up to too, for somebody, for somebody else to be honored.
Speaker 3Now, the question is do you like it enough to use an in good conscience to save it?
Speaker 2And remember you got an extra one.
Speaker 3And I will and I will tell you that if you do use your in good conscience in the first round on the film, it is safe until the second round, so it cannot be played again until the second round.
Speaker 4No, I'm not going to use it because there are some that that I would rather save it for.
Speaker 3Okay, well, Ryan, any any thoughts on the Big I'll be honest, This is when I haven't seen.
It's a blind spot for me.
It's one of my shameful Eastwood blind spots.
I have seen the what I find to be the very dull Sophia Coppola reboot.
Ryan, any thoughts on the Biguala before it dies?
Speaker 2The engineer is fine with this and no landmines.
Speaker 9Yet, when I heard Sofia Coppola was remaking it, that totally made sense because I find her movies very boring, and I'm like, this is the film she would grabt me to.
Speaker 2I love the shade in that.
Speaker 4No, damn, there are some Sophia Coppola films that I really, really enjoy.
I have to confess I did not see her remake simply because I really like the original so much.
And uh, you know, it's like watching the remake of the in Laws or something like, You're bound to be disappointed if you love the original so much, and I.
Speaker 5Do feel like I should watch it again.
Speaker 6I saw it a long time ago, and I probably won't find it nearly as boring as I did, you know, twenty years ago.
Speaker 3Oh it's super creepy, super creepy.
So I'm so the Beguild is about to be burning?
Speaker 4Ryan?
Speaker 3Is there anything have we have we come to anything that?
Okay, Ryan will let us know when something is has something attached to it.
Speaker 5So good.
Speaker 3The Beguiled is now writhing in pain in the depths of the Incinerator.
So it is now back to you, Dennis, the Number eleven Incineration.
Send it my way and let's get nasty.
Speaker 5It's really rough.
Speaker 3Just don't play anything that I'm going to regret.
Okay, this was one that I thought, this one's either going to go lower or someone's going to champion this and take it all the way towards the I don't know how I feel about this film, but I want to hear Dennis tell us all about his Number eleven Incineration.
Speaker 4Grand Tourno, you know, Grand Turno is well, it was a huge box office success, and I can see why because it definitely delivers the goods, you know, he starts out as this real sort of racist asshole who then transforms sort of very quickly into a kind of lovable her mudgeon.
He is a movie star all the way.
In fact, it is it is like a love letter to movie stardom, because it's basically it's like Clint Eastwood, huge superstar and then a relatively unknown cast of supporting actors who are really wonderful.
But it's also very melodramatic.
I mean, it really tugs at the heartstrings, and he takes the kind of shy mung boy who lives next door under his wing and becomes a kind of father or grandfather figure to him the way that he could never love his own sons.
And I mean it's great, it works, but I also think it is kind of melodramatic, and so I just don't think it's on the same level as some of the other films on this list.
Speaker 5Craig, do you agree, Like it's it's good.
It is like.
Speaker 6He was smart to be kind of playing a character that everyone just kind of assumed the real Clint Eastwood is, you know, like he literally yells at people to get off lawn, like.
Speaker 10It's like he's he's he he's in on the joke, ye, But like Thatnas said, it is like the melodramatic aspect gets some goes a little beyond reality.
Speaker 5And while most.
Speaker 6Of the cast were non actors and some of them do a decent job, there are a couple of hiccups where like I'm like, oh, like that scene would have been really good if that person could act.
Speaker 4The young priest is very earnest, very on the nose, which there's just a couple of scenes, but it's also it's really on.
The movie throughout is really like bam bam bam.
Speaker 6It's not it's not subtle, it's not dealing in metaphors.
It's like, this is what it is and.
Speaker 5It's fun.
It's good.
Speaker 9But no, I's the list is too good too.
Speaker 4Here's the here's the weird thing.
He's the guy who would love Clint Eastwood movies, right sure, and yet in the universe of the film, clearly there are no Clint Eastwood movies, right So so when he says like get off my lawn.
In real life you would the guy would go, oh, that's a Clint Eastwood line, but he can't because he's Clint Eastwood.
So he plays a cranky older like Dirty Harry kind of guy, or or or the lead guy from uh uh, you know, every which way but loose like if he's in his late eighties or something, he's becomes that guy.
Speaker 3My theory is that the the reason this film was so popular is because as a country, we don't like to think of Clint Eastwood as not being amazing, and so when Changeling came out earlier in the year and failed to perform in the way like some of his previous stuff has, I think we were like, Okay, well, we're not going to let two films go by from Clint that we're not going to support as a nation.
God damn it.
So and so but grantury To I agree, it's it's some I don't.
I don't.
It's certainly not top tier Eastwood.
But it's a fun watch.
It's a damned entertaining watch, and it is him doing what he is best known for these days, besides playing with chairs on a Republican stage.
It's it's mostly what he's known for, is that grumpy old Harrison Ford.
Yeah, and I think it's probably the closest he's going to come to doing a sixth dirty Harry movie unless he surprises us all and pulls out you know, the Life and Death of Dirty Harry as you know his swan song.
Speaker 4Essentially, you know, he's he's the old, retired, heurmudgeonly Harry Callahan.
And this because he gets to he gets to point guns at people's faces, he gets to do classic Clint Eastwood lines, you know that sort of make my day, you know, well do you punk vain?
And yet he's still playing a like a quote unquote character in real life.
So I mean at a certain point he's he's like threatening everyone in the neighborhood with a gun, and you're like, well, either the police are going to take his guns away in real life or maybe not maybe in America maybe not.
Well, you know, and that's when it's like, Okay, it's a movie star.
It's Clint Eastwood because he's able to just basically everybody if by whipping out a gun.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean in real life he would have been put in a home for senior citizens and and given some sort of like court appointed conservat.
Speaker 4I will say though, and this is the real life story that there was a guy not unlike Eastwood's character in Grand Tarino that lived across the street from uh my mother in law and my wife in Santa Cruz named Jean, who just passed away recently.
And he was this old school guy who drove a pickup truck around and could be really sweet, but you just knew you didn't fuck with.
And some people had moved in next door and were playing their music really loud, repeatedly, and he'd given him some warnings and then he said, if you don't shut your goddamn movie off, I'm going to shoot holes in your house.
And they called the cops, and the cops came by and talked to him, and he said, if they don't turn their goddamn music down, I'm going to shoot holes in their house.
Cops went next door and said I would turn your music down.
He said he's gonna shoot holes in your house.
The cops were like, hey, there's nothing we can do about it.
The guy warned you he's going to shoot holes in your house, and they turned their music down.
So he so here actually has a lot of truth.
Grand character sounds like Jean's a fucking legend.
Ryan was something else.
Yeah, Ryan, are we able to move forward or not?
Speaker 2We are not.
Dennis you have happened upon our first landmine in the game, and this one is called the Shitty Stinger.
Now Grand Toorino is gone.
It is in this place on the list.
However, you have a choice to make now, uh Dennis, you must remove a film from the remaining list and replace it with the movie that was never on the list to begin with.
And Craig has no say in this.
Speaker 4Oh wow.
Speaker 2Now, keep in mind there's the patron pick that cannot be sent out that you don't know what that is.
There's also the engineer pick that if you try to send that, it will automatically go to the top five.
Speaker 4Okay, So I have to remove another one on the list.
Speaker 3Yes, and replace it with a film that was never on the list to begin with.
Speaker 4And then remind me about the patron pick.
What does that too?
Speaker 2If you picked that right now, then it will go to the top five immediately.
See.
Speaker 4Okay, So I am going to remove Mystic River and I'm going to replace it with the Gauntlet.
Oh god, I am shook.
Speaker 3Well you did it.
You did your duty as engineer.
Speaker 2It is gone.
Speaker 4It is gone.
Speaker 3And with that, you know, Grand Tarinos rely on fuel to run, so does the incinerator and now Grand Terorino is the fuel that is feeding the insanity that is brewing below us.
H Craig, we are now over to you for the next incineration.
This would be the tenth incineration.
There are three left in this round.
He's he's looking at that list and I'm like God, which makes children considering it.
He's nodding his head in disapproval.
He's sweating, he's signing, he's typing, Oh, here we go.
What's it gonna be?
What's it gonna be at number ten?
Speaker 4Oh?
Speaker 3Okay, well at the number ten spot, Craig is playing what for my money is the number one film?
And that is.
Speaker 4A perfect world.
But Ryan, I'm going to turn it over to you.
Speaker 2So because this is the patron's pick, this is where some things have to happen.
This is now going to be moved up to the final five and nothing can be done about that.
It is there, and it will be in the top five list of this for the entire time.
And Craig choose I guess we know.
Speaker 5One of our picks will be in the top five.
Speaker 3Yes, but now you have to choose a replacement.
Speaker 5It's not going to pick another one.
Speaker 2Yes, I got to pick another one.
Speaker 5Damn it.
Speaker 3This is this is the best part is just inflicting pain on other people.
Speaker 4This is not It's just not right.
Speaker 2It's not even Dennis's pick, and he's squirming.
Speaker 3I know what's it gonna be now that we know it can't be a perfect world, which delights me to no end.
Speaker 5This is just not right.
Speaker 6But there is a at least a reason behind this pick.
Speaker 4Okay, there it is.
Speaker 3Okay, at the number ten position, Craig is going to attempt to considerate a fistful of dollars.
Speaker 5I feel dirty just having typed that.
Speaker 4You what you should?
You want to a good conscience that you can.
Speaker 5And my thought process is.
Speaker 6We still have the good of the bad and the ugly, so at least there's still a leone movie.
Speaker 5In the list.
But no, I mean, a fistful of dollars is legendary.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, no, no, none of this is None of this is right, None of this is good.
Somebody with a bunch of shitty movies couldn't have done the Maw and pak Kettle series.
We could have y'all chose Clint Eastwood.
Wait a second, whose idea was that sped.
Speaker 2To tell them we did mon pot kettle last season.
Speaker 4Oh Jesus, I should jump in here and say I do have a story I'll have to haul out when when we need to save one of the can't be incinerated titles, I'll share my my personal Clint Eastwood story.
Speaker 3This film doesn't hurt me because I am not a huge fan of this trilogy.
I never have.
I'm a massive Westerns you get off this podcast.
I'm a massive Westerns fan.
I go up obsessed with Westerns.
I am spaghetti Spaghetti Westerns don't hit for me.
Sorry, Spaghetti Westerns don't hit for me the way they do.
Speaker 4They just we're on the wrong podcast.
Speaker 3You never have.
Why did you bring us on this part before?
All right, there's the first time for everybody.
There's always the first time for everything.
Not a big fan of I mean, I don't think they're bad films.
I'm not saying they're bad films.
They just don't hit for me.
Spaghetti Westerns just don't hit for me the way.
Speaker 4You're wrong, and you're you know, Look, I'm comfortable and I'm comfortable in my ridiculous I will I will share a I will share a story my friend Bud Betteker share it with me about Sergio Leoni, who directed Fistful of Dollars and Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
So Bud had directed a series of classic westerns with Randolph Scott, Seven Men from Now, The Tall Tea Right Lonesome, and he was invited to a film festival overseas where Leoni was the head of the jury.
And UH.
As he was headed over to the festival, you know, he knew that that over the years people had said that Leoni had stolen a lot from Bud's movies, along with Sam Peckinpaw and Anthony Mann and some of the others that are classic UH Western filmmakers, and Bud's like, well, I didn't.
I didn't think so.
I loved Leoni's films on their own.
I thought they were great.
But I was worried that maybe he thought that I felt he'd stolen from me, and it might make it awkward.
So Bud gets to the festival Overseas and he's walking up the steps to the Grand Palais where they're doing this opening night honoring him, and there's Sergio Leoni and a delegation at the top of the steps, and before Bud can say anything, Leoni throws his arms open and he says, Bud, betteker, I have stolen everything from you.
Well, that's a lovely story.
I was like, that's a great story.
Speaker 3So have we all come to terms with the fact that a fist full of dollars is about to or are you going to save it?
Are you going to save it?
Speaker 4Dennis, I'm not gonna be able to save everything, so I guess, uh, we're gonna have to let something go.
But that really sucks.
It's a it's a brilliant film.
It's a perfect film.
You got an extra one.
Don't forget it's not Keep in mind, a perfect world is not a perfect film, but a mis fill of dollars is a perfect film.
Speaker 3Keep in mind you cannot use any good consciences in the top three, so you've only got a certain amount of time to use them.
Speaker 4So wait a second, Oh Jesus, these are all the rules.
So how many how many do we have?
You have three?
Kran has two?
Okay, all right, and then we're going to do the second round though, so we can use them in the Okay, all right, I'll let it go.
It sucks I'll let it go.
Speaker 6One quick question, is there is there a loophole where you can use your good conscience on your own pick?
Speaker 5Uh?
Speaker 3No, I think you can?
Yeah, well, I mean sure, I mean I don't see a reason why you couldn't.
I'm not going to on this one, but that might happen.
Okay, Well, a fist full of looks like Ryan's got a special little trait for this one.
Speaker 2We got to go back to back with land mines, right.
Unfortunately, this one is probably going to ruffle some feathers.
So this one is called showdown.
This is going to be our guest competing in a single round competition, and the winner gets to move a title of their choice to the final five.
And that does not conclude the one that was justincinerated.
That one is already gone, so you get to choose something else to move it to the final five.
This is simply going to be a game of trivia.
I'm going to ask a question based on a number.
Whoever is closest wins, Craig.
Because this is your round, you get to go first on your answer.
Dennis gets to go second.
The question for both of you is related to a movie.
We're gonna be talking about in just a little bit.
The question is what year was Alcatraz last operational as a prison?
Good question, Coraig, what year was Alcatraz last operational as a prison?
Speaker 3He's thinking, deep in thought, seventy.
Speaker 2Three, Dennis, he says, seventy three.
Speaker 4I'm gonna say nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 2The correct answer is nineteen sixty three, Dennis wins by only two years.
Speaker 4Wow.
Speaker 2So Dennis, now you get to make a choice from our remaining list, what title do you want to guarantee is safe to the final five?
Speaker 4The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 4He's going to make sure that one, we both will.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's going to make sure that one doesn't get cut down too early.
There we go.
Okay, Good, the Bad, and the Ugly joins a perfect world in the final five.
Speaker 5And that was just the most ridiculous.
Speaker 4That is it is and pornographic.
That's obscene.
Speaker 3I'm shocked that you are not you are not actually a perfect world fans.
It's well regardless of all of that, A fistful of dollars is now a fistful of ashes.
Speaker 4It is gone.
Speaker 2It is gone, And based on your list, the perfect world is a better movie than that fact that you said it's a perfect world.
Speaker 4But having cinerated a fistful of dollars shows everything is wrong with this podcast.
Speaker 3Well, Dennis, it's back over to you now, so you have to incinerate the next film.
Send it to me in the chat, and let's get it more and more.
Speaker 4Painful, trying to see which I'm trying to remember that which ones we've even incinerated.
Uh.
Speaker 2I will be sending an updated list momentarily for everybody there.
Speaker 5It is.
Speaker 3I expected this is probably around where this film would go.
Not a big surprise at the number.
At the number nine incineration, Dennis is pulling the plug on Million Dollar Baby.
Uh, talk to us about Million Dollar Baby, which was kind of a film that came out of nowhere and became this like huge oscar and like a Wards thing, and like why this film here?
Speaker 4It's a great movie, great Hillary Swank performance.
It's a really tough it's you know, it's a kind of a classic boxing drama, got a whole tragic arc to it.
It's just that we're having to now sacrifice our own children, and it's just gonna be pain from here on in so and that's what the movie is about.
It's pain from here on in.
So it's going in the incinerator.
Craig, how do you feel about Million Dollar Baby?
Speaker 5Uh?
Speaker 6I can't let him do it, So I'm burning one of my in good conscience.
Speaker 11Oh, million Dollar Baby is officially safe and is not going to be incinerated at number nine, which means, Dennis, you now have to choose a replacement.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 5I probably end up burning my second one.
Speaker 3Oh well, I'm glad to know there is some Million dollar Baby support on the dais.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4No, and now I can't burn the perfect world right No?
Speaker 3No, no, that we saved the best for last.
Speaker 4Well, then I'll have to I'll have to burn the one that I actually added.
Speaker 3There it is okay, this is the one that Dennis added.
Uh, and it is now going the way of the dinosaurs unless someone intervenes.
At number nine, it is the gone lit the Gauntlet tell us about it.
This is one that I'll be clear.
Also a blind spot.
So the Gauntlet didnis.
Speaker 4The Gauntlet, I think, Uh, what's going to be another dirty hairy film.
Initially I think it was conceived uh, and and then they decided just to do it as a standalone.
He plays an alcoholic cop who is basically sent on a mission to transport a witness to a mob hit from Vegas back to I think is it Phoenix might be?
I think it's I think he's Arizona PD in that And it turns out to be Sondra Locke and they, uh, these you know, these these two really you know, kind of down on their luck characters wind up falling in love.
She's a prostitute and he's a know, kind of a bum drunken cop that everybody expects to fail.
That's why he's sent on this mission.
Is is his superior thinks he's gonna screw it up.
And it's a really it's a really good movie.
It's got a wonderful score, kind of kind of you know, mournful, low key jazz inspired score.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 4He plays, it's one of his better acting performances.
Uh.
It's got a great supporting cast.
And then and then the whole finale, the climax of the movie, where Ian Sandra Locke are in a bus they've commandeered and he outfits with like metal plates and they've got hundreds and hundreds of fellow cops lined up along the route blasting away at this bus.
It's just incredibly surreal.
It almost becomes like another kind of of a movie.
I really, I think it's great.
I think it's really held up well.
Which is which is like now that I'm talking about, And I'm like, why the hell did I throw it in?
Because we can't incenterate freaking perfect world?
Speaker 3Damn it no, because it is indeed a perfect world.
Speaker 5Tainted postered by Frank.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3The Gauntlet is has is also anickname that some people use for this podcast.
Speaker 4So you're not tempted to in good conscience this.
Speaker 2Craig, not this one.
Speaker 3Okay, I have not seen it.
Speaker 4I don't want to comment.
I don't want to hear Ryan trash Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 3So but Ryan, uh, does the Gauntlet have anything attached to it?
Speaker 2It does?
It sounds like it has a good reputation to take to it.
We are good to go.
This is staying here.
Speaker 3Okay, Well, the Gauntlet has now met its gauntlet at the hands of the incinerator at number nine.
It is back to you, Craig.
This is the final incineration of the first round.
Send it over in the chat, and I'm sorry in advance.
Craig always looks like it looks like the scene in Sophie's Choice where she's like having really having to decide, and I hear the typing.
Speaker 4There's that.
Speaker 3There's that second guessing coming into play, right now?
Do I send it?
No?
Yep, Yeah, but I'm familiar with this sounds.
I'm familiar with these sound strokes.
Speaker 5And it's not a short title.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's it, gonna be an anxious audience awaits there, it is there, It is at number eight.
Wow, he escaped from Alcatraz, But will he escape from the inciderator?
That's right, it's escape from Alcatraz at number eight.
Speaker 4This gus about it so sucky?
Speaker 3Why is it here, Craig?
Why do you hate escape from our tras?
Speaker 5It's here because I could take one of the other ones.
Speaker 6No, there's no good reason to burn this film.
Speaker 2Well, then let me let me step in here and interrupt, because this does have a landmine that can affect it staying here or not.
So we have landed on a position that has a landmine attached.
Called Billy Ray is a gun.
Billy Ray usually knows a lot about the topic in hand.
Unfortunately, I think he's a little behind on his Eastwood trivia, so you might have a good hand at this one.
Craig, your job is to ask Billy Ray a question about related to this film somehow that you already know the answer to.
You cannot look it up.
You just have to already know it.
If you ask Billy Raad the question and he knows it, he gets to decide if this movie is incinerated or not.
Speaker 6Hmm, oh god, hit me, I think of some trivia.
Speaker 5I mean, I like the movie, but.
Speaker 4Can I help him?
Speaker 2Yes, I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 4You are free to Should I put it in the chat or should I just?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Bill, close your chat?
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, I won't.
Speaker 4I won't look.
I'm not gonna hear.
I won't look, So I could put it in the chat.
Speaker 2Yep, this will make it much more interesting.
Speaker 4Well I'm not, I'm not.
Oh wow, this is exciting.
I'm sure I'm gonna get wrong, but there we go.
Speaker 3Very exciting.
Does that help Craig out?
That's the question.
Speaker 5That's literally what I was thinking to ask.
Speaker 4See, that's why we're just as Craig.
It's not a simple it's not a simple yes or no.
Speaker 2It seems like.
Speaker 5Right, That's why I was like, I don't know if I should ask.
Speaker 3Go ahead, go ahead, I'm ready hit.
Speaker 5Me, Okay, So I asked what I was going to ask.
Speaker 6So at the end of this film, does Clint Eastwood successfully escape from Alcatraz.
Speaker 2Fifty to fifty chance Billy Ray?
Speaker 4Oh wow?
Speaker 5Wow?
Speaker 3Fill in Ryan while I'm thinking, I I have a fun story.
Speaker 2When I was younger, I actually went to Alcatraz, and I have a picture that I showed my kids recently of me standing in a jail celled Alcatraz nice.
Speaker 6Probably my possibly my favorite city of the world I've visited.
I've always wanted to go to at Theatraz, and I still have not.
Speaker 2It's a beautiful place, for sure.
Speaker 4There was an amazing uh I mean, although it pertains to Alcatraz, but there was an incredible in the early seventies when activists in Native American politics took over Alcatraz as a protest for I think a couple of months.
It's kind of an it's sort of forgotten now that they occupied Alcatraz island.
Speaker 3So I think the answer, I don't that's things.
So I don't think it's a yes or no answer.
Speaker 2What's the answer, Billy Ray, Yeah, so.
Speaker 5What is your answer then?
Speaker 2Five?
Speaker 4Maybe?
Speaker 2Three?
Yes?
Speaker 3The answer is maybe, because I don't think they know for sure.
I don't think they know for sure if they actually made.
Speaker 4It or not.
Speaker 5Dennis, is he right?
Speaker 4Well, as far as the film goes, I would say, well, the film, the film implies that that they made it real life though is much more there real life.
There There is no evidence that they survived.
There were kind of you know, urban myths and various reports that they may have been seen and they survived.
But it's that's a neither yes or no.
They don't know if they made it.
I film, the film implies that they did.
Speaker 5It implies, though, I mean, it's not.
I would say the answer is correct, it's maybe.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3Okay, so wait, what what do I win?
Speaker 2So now you get to choose is escape from Alcatraz actually incinerated here?
Or are you going to incinerate something else on the list?
Speaker 4Oh so I can choose something else to incinerate.
Oh that's my prize.
Speaker 3Okay, Well then okay, wonderful.
Well, no, there's really nothing else I would incinerate over this.
That's left everything else I like better than this.
I'm just gonna keep this burning here.
Speaker 2We just went through all of that to find out that you agree.
Speaker 4I do agree.
Speaker 3Everything else left on the list is like, clearly better.
Speaker 4It's a great films.
It's Don Siegel's last, great great movie, one of the last you know, one of the great actor director partnerships in American cinema, and it's going in the incinerator.
This is just awful.
Speaker 3It is There is no escape now for escape from Alcatraz, just like the people who escaped dead, just like them.
Probably, Okay, that is the end of round one, everybody, So we got through that piece.
We still have a few more picks.
Actually no, I say that, No, this is our break.
I was given us the whole spiel about how we got a couple more picks till the break.
This is our break.
This is where we take a quick break and then we come back and dive into more shenanigans.
So everyone stick around and we will be right back.
We are back from our intermission to the second round of the Incinerator.
Before we get into that, gentleman, just very quickly, why don't you talk a little bit about deaf crocodile, talking about what you do, why people should check you out.
Speaker 4Plug.
This is the plug section.
Oh, thanks for having Yeah, thanks for having us.
On and I started working together and it's actually I think a decade now.
At twenty fourteen we started working together uh now mostly defunct company called Sinalicious, Inc.
I started huh the distribution division with the president of the company, Paul and Craig was was the head of restoration.
There.
We put out some very cool films like Belladonna's Sadness, the psychedelic Japanese anime.
We put up Private Property, Warren Oates's first films, terrific movie, Gangs of Wassai, Pour two films by Anya s Varda Kung Fu Master and Jane B.
Par ay V and a bunch of movies.
And then we went on to work at another distribution company called Arbelo's Films, where Craig restored Belatar's Satan Tango some other great movies, and then decided to start def Crocodile.
How many years ago now is It's like three and a half, almost four years.
Speaker 5Ago, so it's all.
Speaker 4It's all we've got about.
We've got about forty five films in our catalog right now.
A number that we have have haven't released yet.
We do a lot of world animation.
So we've done two kind of really wonderful obscure Romanian animated sci fi films, Delta Space Mission and The Son of the Stars.
We've put out several wonderful Hungarian animated movies Cat City, Heroic Times, and then this month Georgy Kovashnazed Bubble Bass.
We've released Beautiful Yerie Bardes, The Pie Piper Eighties.
We've put out three and and soon four incredible fantasy epics by the legendary Russian filmmaker Alexander Patushko, Ilia Mormetz, Sampo, The Tale of Zar Sultan and upcoming Ruslan and Milla.
We've put out a number of new films from Iran for movies by the director Sharram Mokrie, Careless, Crime, Fishing, Cat With Your Masterpieces, upcoming a film called World War Three by director Human Sayetti, which won two awards at the Venice Film Festival.
So we do a really eclectic mix of world cinema, genre films, world animation.
We're kind of a sort of at the intersection of art house and genre cinema is kind of our sweet thought.
Speaker 3So and folks can just go on the website and buy everything that pleases their souls.
Speaker 4Please do we sell a lot of blu rays.
Craig does credible sort of studio level restoration work on Most of our titles are restored in house.
Some some are restored by the rights holders or archives overseas, but a lot of the work he does in house and is really amazing.
That's kind of our The ace up our sleeve is that we're able to restore a lot of these films ourselves, because otherwise they wouldn't.
Like we put out this incredibly obscure Croatian sci fi fantasy film Visitors from the Arcana Galaxy, and we had to not only license the film, but pay to have it scanned and then restored.
And and it's only because we love movies and work.
We're kind of nutty enough to do this, because probably no one else out there would spend that amount of time and money to restore the film.
So and the big part of that is because Craig has this incredible skills, such a wizard at it.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, well definitely check out dev crocodile dot com.
Check out all of the amazing titles that Dennis just talked about, and they might be releasing more titles if this episode doesn't kill them, So so you know.
Speaker 4Best of luck in that direction.
Well, we are here for.
Speaker 3Round two now, and round two is special.
Uh.
Incineration seven through four will be incinerated back to opening weekend, So if you saw it opening weekend, you still have that memory.
If you did not see it opening weekend, it never existed.
No chance to build an audience or a cult following opening weekend, and that is that.
So yeah, it looks like it's time to get nasty again, Craig, you gave the last incideration before the break.
Dennis, it is back over to you.
Keep in mind there are two land mines in this round, so those are out there.
Speaker 5Well, Dennis still has the real so.
Speaker 4So Ran, what is now the what is the final?
What is the list that you.
Speaker 2See in the private chat that I just sent on the break is current?
Two of those titles are unable to be played until the final five that is a Perfect World and The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.
The other ones are still available to be played right now.
Speaker 3Yes, meaning that million Dollar Baby is now back on the table.
It was safe for a while, but now it's available again, and nobody did not set that up.
Oh God, damn it.
Well, Craig has again good conscience remaining.
Speaker 6Now I was just gonna say he has Dentis has three and good conscience left.
I have one, and they're all essentially useless because we're going to save something to sacrifice something else, and there there's no point, right, Oh.
Speaker 4There's a point.
There's a point.
Speaker 6There's literally not a single title on there that I would be like, Okay, I'll sacrifice this for that.
Speaker 5So a million dollars, I guess gonna go.
Speaker 3That's it.
So number seven it is Clint Eastwood's million dollar Baby.
It was tried to play earlier.
It did not go through.
I liked this film.
I remember seeing this and liking it a lot more than I expected because, like a lot of people, I did not know, I did not have any clue what this film was really about.
Speaker 6Yeah, the marketing for this film was it was either clever or dumb.
I'm not sure which, because they marketed it like like super old man, Clin Eastwood's doing a boxing movie and most everyone I know is like, no, he's too old for that.
But I don't want to see that, but then I kept hearing how amazing it was and I'm like, really, and I love Clint, but I was like, this is ridiculous, like he's ancient.
Speaker 5And then I saw it.
Speaker 6I remember I watched it sitting on my couch by myself and.
Speaker 5Just falling like a baby, and I was like, that was not what I was expecting.
Speaker 3No, No, so good, it's so good, and uh, I mean it was shocking for a lot of reasons.
Also, like I mean Hillary Swake is great in that film, Like I mean, I know she got her first oscar for Boys Don't Cry.
I have problems with that film, but she is incredible in a million dollars, I mean, everybody is, the whole cast is like knocking it out.
Speaker 5Of the park with that film.
Speaker 3No, it's a great film, but like all great films, they eventually meet their ends at the hands of the incinerator.
Unless Ryan has some news for us.
Speaker 4That is.
Speaker 2That is the million dollar question for a million dollar baby, And unfortunately it is up in the air on whether this will be incinerated or not.
And this is one of our fairly recent favorite landmines that we have now instituted, and I sort of feel bad for Dennis.
Speaker 6Uh.
Speaker 2This this landmine is called phone a friend.
So now, uh, you need to take your cell phone and contact the person of your choice and ask anybody what the incineration should be.
Basically, the worst on the list of five eligible titles.
You do not get to include the two that are safe to the top five.
They may choose million dollar Baby, they may choose outlaw Josie Wells.
We'll see wow.
Speaker 4So so it's Dirty Harry high Planes, Drifter, million dollar Baby.
Speaker 2Outlaw Josie Wells an unforgiven boy.
Speaker 3Oh got it, thank youse, unforgiven.
I'm going to jump through the wind, though I will jump out the goddamn window.
Speaker 4I will not tolerate unforgiven slander.
Okay, So I'm calling a friend.
I'm on the podcast here with Craig and Billy Ray and Ryan.
I need you, I need you help me.
Murder plenty Eastwood movie.
You gotta do it.
Okay, So the titles are, we got to eliminate one of them, Dirty Harry high Planes, Drifter, million Dollar Baby, unforgiven and outlawed Josie Wales.
Speaker 5Well.
Speaker 2I hate to do this because it's a a powerful.
Speaker 4Woman and a tragic and and.
Speaker 3Ultimately bizarrely life affirming role.
Speaker 4But the other movies are perfect and.
Speaker 5Billion dollar.
Speaker 4Awesome.
Speaker 1But I've watched the others till my eyes.
Speaker 4Okay, that's my wife, Maria, who she's my best friend.
He's in the room behind that curtain there, and she just made the right decision evidently.
Okay, she's incinerating million She's gotta go, thank you the dirt off.
Wow, so she she she solidified it.
Speaker 3Uh, incinerating Right now, we as a podcast are pulling the plug on million dollar baby.
Speaker 5I can't believe.
Speaker 6I'm glad that's what she said, Like.
Speaker 2That's that's two engineer land minds in the road that it's just been pointless.
Speaker 4Now dirty to my entire family.
We got everybody involved, get everybody, my dog.
Speaker 6I'm glad I didn't get that because I probably would have called Roger and he would have been like, burn them all.
Speaker 4Wow, why are you married to that guy?
Speaker 5I know?
Speaker 4Love?
Speaker 3Yeah, you have to recover now and send us a pig for the number six incineration.
After this pick, all titles are eligible again.
Okay, there it is at number six.
Speaker 5I mean it kind of had to be, right, Dennis, I can't.
Speaker 4Even vamp it up.
It's High Plagues Drifter, y'all.
Speaker 5It's it's so goddamn good.
Speaker 4But no, I'm just gonna throw my hands up and chest shit is who has got three in good consciences, none of which he has.
Speaker 5Used because it's burning something else.
Speaker 4We watched this film all the time.
It's fantastic.
No, they they paint the town red and basically say welcome to hell.
Speaker 5Now.
Speaker 4Genius, it's utter genius.
It's a great film.
It's a ghost story, like how many other Western ghost stories are there?
Speaker 6And I love it well the ghost story aspect is it's like it's that's not really what it's about.
Speaker 5And then at the end you're like, wait a second, and.
Speaker 4Just everyone is like bad and venal and self serving and the townspeople, yeah, he kind of saved them.
They don't deserve to be saved because it's a it's sort of like a ghost version of High Noon, right, because they you know, they leave him spoiler alert to to be you know, beaten to death, whipped to death in in you know the flashbacks, and he comes back as this sort of you know, figure of vengeance.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Great, it's a brilliant movie.
Speaker 3It's a great movie.
Yeah, I love this one.
I think this is one of his even though we're idiot like Cannon.
I think it's one of his more underrated films.
Frankly, I think it's really really solid.
Might have been a little bit higher on my personal list.
But I actually wait, I forgot that.
I also haven't a good conscience.
I have forgotten about it.
I could have used this like three different times throughout this episode and forgot that I had one to use.
Speaker 4This is a terrible game, I believe.
Speaker 3Oh god, I don't know if I could use it though, I mean, what, what is it really worth it with all the other titles, Like, I really think it's better.
I do think it's better than a couple of these.
So actually I will use my good conscience on high Planes Drifter.
Speaker 2Uh So that means, now, Craig, you have to make a different choice.
High Planes Drifter will be available again at the number five, but everything will be available then.
Speaker 3Yep, I'm only saving at one spot, but that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2No, it'll be at least two.
We know they're stretching one other first.
Speaker 4Oh fair fair, Oh you're right.
Oh damn.
I should have waited he keep.
Speaker 2It for that?
Well, you can't use it again after the second round.
Speaker 4Oh that's right.
So so what what is he now choosing from?
Speaker 2He is choosing from unforgiven, outlawed, Josie Wells, dirty Harry, and yuh that's it.
I think No.
Speaker 3I could have used it though, because the third round is three two one, so I could have used it.
It's just but I forgot.
I didn't do it though.
Speaker 5Can I caunture a good conscience?
With a good conscience?
Speaker 3No, nope, nope, you gotta throw another one in there be such bullshit.
Just be glad that I didn't save it for a perfect world.
So what number are we at?
Speaker 4Again?
Speaker 3Were number six?
This is number six?
What's it gonna be, Craig, what's it gonna be?
Speaker 2Don't don't forget, Craig, I also have one.
So just to screw with you, I might.
Speaker 3What's it gonna be?
We'll have to put the timer on you?
Speaker 4And nine?
Speaker 5Oh my god?
Speaker 4Eight seven?
Speaker 5All right, just to fuck with you, unforgiven you did it to yourself.
Speaker 4That is wrong.
Speaker 2Conscience?
Speaker 3Yes, thank you, Ryot, thank you.
I'm glad you didn't.
Well, we're out of any good consciences, but they were well played.
Speaker 2There's still the engineer pick that moves it to the top three, now the top five.
Speaker 6So you used that means now you need to pick something right.
So when you guys do it, it just saves it.
Speaker 2It just saves it.
You still have to pick it.
So now you have to choose between Dirty Harry an outlaw Josie Wills.
Speaker 8Oh god, Dennis sus bullshit, I am so this was a terrible.
Speaker 6Here's between Dirty Harry and the outlaw Josie Wales.
Speaker 3Yes, a great Western and an okay action film.
Speaker 2Oh my god, just think, Craig.
There's still the engineer choice that gets to move it up, and you have not stumbled upon that yet.
There's the option that you can You could choose that one.
Speaker 6Three in good conscience, but I mean then that just makes it the decision.
Speaker 4Here we go choose between the two is Harry or Josie?
Speaker 5God love Dirty Harry?
Speaker 4There it is Ryan.
Speaker 2Dirty Harry is the engineer's choice to advance to the top five.
Speaker 3So there's only one choice that we can possibly play at number six by process of elimination.
Speaker 4The number six incineration is.
Speaker 3The outlaw Josie Wells go through like fourth and I.
Speaker 4Can't and I can't save it because there's nothing else that's correct, that's correct.
You found yourself in a position.
Your rules are screwed up in this game.
Speaker 3No, they actually make sense.
This ship up as we go.
We used to, but not anymore.
No, you can't if there's nothing you can swap it with, you can't in good conscience.
And unfortunately there's nothing remaining that can be swapped.
So it's a perfect world.
I'm swapping it for a perfect world.
It's firmly safe.
I know you're going to get it all the way to the.
Speaker 4Number one spot.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, so outlaw Josie Wells.
I don't have a lot to say about it except it is one of the greatest Ways's ever made.
It is a masterpiece in his top three Clint Eastwood, and it's not going to be there in top three.
Speaker 4Yeah, no, no, this is all the things that are wrong with this game, because it is one of the greatest questions ever made, one of his greatest films as a director.
It's yeah, it's one of the films that first I fell in love with when I saw it in a movie theater.
And time has not dimmed my admiration or love for the film.
So this all sucks.
Everything about it.
I don't disagree.
Speaker 3I think it sucks that Josie Wells is here too, But I'm the one who created the format of this game, so it's my fault and I take full responsibility.
Craig looks so defeated, and it's like he's ready to just give it all up and just go live in a cabinet somewhere.
Speaker 5This was the worst idea I've ever had.
Speaker 4I actually this is what's great.
Speaker 3What I love is that this is our first episode back in a while, and I don't know that I've ever looked seen someone more defeated than Craig is.
Speaker 4Yeah, I reckon so well.
Speaker 2If no one has anything else to say about it, I hate to be the bearer of even more bad news.
There is still a landmine, and it is on this location.
Speaker 4Oh Jesus Christ, there's no other films.
Speaker 2It's not We're not swapping for something else that needs to come on the list.
So the difference here this is called go ahead and make my day.
You need to make an indefensible argument about Clinton Eastwood to Billy Ray if you somehow persuade him into falling for your idea of what you are defending, and you get to choose that you can choose an item that was already incinerated and bring it back to the list and swap with something else that is remaining.
Speaker 5Oh so, explain to me what I have to do.
Speaker 2What you have to make some hot, take, crazy, indefensible argument to Billy Ray on the subject of your choice about Clint Eastwood.
If he agrees that you made a really great argument, he will decide on if you can choose something that's already been incinerated and you can bring it back and swap with something else that's on the list that's still available.
Speaker 5M hm.
Speaker 2And no in good conscience or anything can save it.
However, because we're at number six and not yet at number five though two items that are safe to the top five are still safe.
Speaker 4Oh well, that sucks.
So this is this is.
Speaker 2But there is incentive here because if something got incinerated earlier that Craig is absolutely in love with and he was upset by it.
Speaker 6I'm gonna I'm gonna have to say, and and this is coming from the most liberal minded person ever, that weird ship he did with the chair at the Republican National Convention was actually high a brilliant performance art that just went over everyone's head and it just came off as like a senile old man, But it was actually performance art that he had a great idea.
Speaker 5And he had the wrong audience to be doing it too.
Speaker 6I're saying, agree with these arguments and what he was saying to the chair, but the idea of speaking to an empty chair was actually kind of brilliant performance art.
Speaker 3Well, I mean, it would be hard for me to agree with that if the fact, if it wasn't the fact that I have defended that chair sequence since it happened to people.
I have staunchly defended Clint and that chair sequency.
You know what, Craig didn't even need to convince me.
I was already convinced.
Speaker 2Wow, So anything that's already been incinerated you can bring back, and something that is eligible you can put in that spot.
It could be all the way back down to spot thirteen.
Speaker 5But what's act But what's eligible?
Speaker 2Like everything on that list that I just said.
Speaker 5What's what's left that I can burn?
Instead?
Speaker 2Uh?
It is anything that's on that list other than what's safe to the final five?
So no perfect World, no good, bad and the Ugly, no million dollar baby, and no high planes Drifter.
Speaker 4So do you want to say a million dollar baby was burned?
Speaker 2He needs to choose one to go back in the the list lower though, So if if you are more passionate about one of those other titles, you're basically swapping the place of something that was.
Speaker 3You both just mentioned titles that have already been incinerated.
So uh so we each we each get a point now because that film about the about the money and the child does not exist anymore.
Speaker 2Ryan correct, Although he could resurrect it if he really wanted to.
Speaker 4It exists for me actually because I saw it opening weekend.
Speaker 6So I'm still a little.
Speaker 4Just It's just it is like trying to play Arkham Horror.
Yes, yes, Victory, I.
Speaker 5Understand that I can resurrect a film.
I don't understand the second part of.
Speaker 4The What are the only films that he can choose from that.
Speaker 2Are left Dirty, Harry, uh Outlaw, Josie Wales, unforgiven any of those three.
If you like something else that's already been incinerated more than those three, you can swap places.
Speaker 5Oh, dirty Harry.
What were the.
Speaker 2Three Outlaw, Josie Wales and Unforgiven.
Speaker 5I thought all three of those were gone.
Speaker 2They were safe because being good consciences.
But now they are on the table for you to swap out with something that's already been incinerated.
Speaker 5I think we're gonna have another useless slant line.
Speaker 3Yeah, there you go.
Craig can't do it.
Craig can't sacrifice.
Craig can't sacrifice.
Well, you know, I was gonna I was gonna throw a leather rich in, but I think we've had enough riches on this pick.
Speaker 12So a long term we're gonna We're gonna saying you guys, you ask us, and then you come up with some ship rule like this is my engineer's pick, or this is my good conscience or you I just got a point because you mentioned a film that doesn't exist.
Speaker 4At high What the hell is going on?
Speaker 2It was always times beforehand, I promise.
Speaker 3Okay, here it is.
Then it's it's safe.
It's official.
The number six position.
We are officially saying farewell to the Outlaw Josie Wells, which means we are now in the top five, which means all titles are now back on the table.
Every title is eligible in the top five, and we are officially back over to Dennis for the first consideration of the top five.
I'm not shocked.
I will not be shocked at what he sends.
I'm pretty sure I know that he is sending the best film on the list, which will go at number five, which I'm going to have to wrap my head around.
Speaker 4So it's dirty Harry Hi, Okay, High Planes, Drifter, Perfect World, Good, the Bad, the ugly, Unforgiven.
Speaker 5Yeah, well there's one there that's not like one of.
Speaker 3These things is not like the others, because I hate that we're getting rid of Unforgiven Soss.
Speaker 4It's a really questionable taste.
Speaker 3I don't even have to wait for it.
It's a perfect World.
Conciderating a perfect world, even trying to incinerate that since nine am.
If I can't find a good conscience, I could have saved it.
But I did it.
I don't regret it.
I will just say this.
I think people, I think Perfect World is a perfect film.
I think Clint Eastwood is terrific.
I think it's some of his best directing he's ever done.
I think he's one of Kevin Costner's best performances ever.
I think it's just it's almost like this modern western fairy tale.
I love it, but I have nothing I can do about it.
Dennis has has laid down the law.
Dennis, why do you hate such a marvelous movie.
Speaker 4The Perfect World.
Part of the problem for me is is Kevin Costner, who I think is really limited as an actor, great movie star.
I saw it when he came out, and I thought it was was fine.
But it's also a little melodramatic.
Uh and compared to, in fact, a lot of films that we've already incinerated, like The Outlawed Josie Wales, which I think is a masterpiece.
Speaker 2It's two points.
Speaker 4I think a Perfect World is far from masterpiece.
You just got your second point, Dennis.
Speaker 5Be careful now, don't say any more titles.
Speaker 4Tennis, I don't care.
Speaker 3Let just point out it crazy.
Speaker 4There's nothing you're gonna do to me that's more painful than what's already been done by That's fair.
Speaker 3That's fair.
Were there any landmines left?
Speaker 2Ryan, There are no landmines left.
Speaker 3Okay, we're done with the landlinks, so we can rest easy on that.
Craig thoughts on a perfect world anything to add.
Speaker 5Not good movie, but compared to the rest of the list, it's clearly got to go.
Speaker 4One man's clearly is another man's.
Speaker 3God damn it.
But nevertheless, it's not a perfect world for me.
It's a very hot world because a perfect world is sinking into the molten lava.
We are back over to you, Craig for the number four incineration, and this is the final choice of round two.
There it is coming back on the list.
It made it up a few spots higher.
The number four incineration is High Planes Drifter, and we talked about this in a while back.
I do still think it's one of his most underrated films, and I love the kind of spooky aspect to it as well.
Speaker 4It got up further than we expected.
Speaker 2Everybody, Dennis is still unhappy at this point.
Speaker 4It's nothing but pain.
Yes, it's nothing but pain at this point.
It's it's great movies going in the incinerator and it just and I can't even mention the other ones that have already gone in because then you're like, yo, you lost point, and I'm like, what is going on here?
Speaker 3Well, yeah, welcome to hell of incinerating at number four a film we talked about a while back, the beloved High Planes Drifter.
Now we are in the top three territory.
Cuts three and two will be incinerated for everyone, including all of us, but preserved for future generations, meaning anyone who saw the film before the episode recorded will have their memory white, while everyone who had not seen it until after the recording still has a chance.
So we're doing it for the children, everybody.
We're doing it for the children.
And in that at the number three spot, it is your choice.
Speaker 4Dennis.
Can I we go back to incinerating Jeff Daniels movies.
Yes, but we can definitely do that the Dummer sequel.
I will definite the inspirate for these.
Speaker 3At number three, Dennis is incinerated Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 4Two yes spelled t o U.
Speaker 3There are three choices here.
There's unforgiven, the good, the bad, and the ugly and dirty.
Speaker 4Harry, alrighty, and he's sending me the p I'm sending my pick.
Speaker 3Number three.
Speaker 4Ventura Detective Concerted, Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 3Well, we will accinerate a spina alongside your actual pick.
Speaker 4Sorry, Jim Carrey, Yeah no, that's gone.
No, no, I I I think my hands refused to you want them to type, which is I'm going to incinerate either Dirty Harry, the good, the bad, and the ugly and the unforgiven or unforgiven?
I should say, uh, and and just my body won't obey, so I guess.
Speaker 2I'll have to type it for you.
Speaker 3Then Oh, yeah, I guess you'd have to relinquish it to Ryot.
Speaker 4Then no, I don't want to do that either, because he's not a Clint Eastwood fan, so it doesn't actually hurt him to any of these Oh Jesus Christ that I would even do this is so fucked up.
Speaker 3Here we go there it is.
Yeah, that's number three, and it is lethally and gladly considerating Dirty Harry Dennis Dirty Harry.
Why do you hate this film?
Speaker 4Let me tell you all the reasons why I hate Dirty Harry.
I don't hate Dirty Harry.
I love Dirty Harry.
Dirty Harry all time favorite movies.
It's it's utterly Titanic.
It's one of those great films that sort of signals the end of the sixties and the beginning of the seventies.
It's the kind of urban crime film that made millions, billions of dollars for Warner Brothers that just aren't made anymore.
It's I think about this all the time, that there was a there was a genre of really like tough, lean mean urban crime films, and Warners kind of specialized in making these movies like Bullet, Dirty, Hairy, Macnum Force, and then for whatever reasons, like when we hit the late seventies early eighties, they seem to disappear, and it's just it's brilliantly shot, you know, widescreen, CinemaScope, cinematography.
Eastwood's you know, performances, Harry Callahan, you know the iconic uh you know, I can tell you what you're thinking, punks or only five.
I mean, everything about it is so ichiconic.
Andy Robinson's yea Lalla, Schiffern's score.
Speaker 6Yeah, the score is incredible.
You just just go to YouTube and pull up the theme dirty Harry, you know, opening theme.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 5It's like this jazz funk like it just miss missmash that.
It's brilliant.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, that's and the way Don Siegel used San Francisco, which you know, he'd made some other great films in San Francisco the Lineup, which was a really tough, mean heist film, crime film you made in the fifties.
Black and white noir is great, but you know, I don't know that anyone ever used San Francisco and the landscape of the city as brilliantly as Seagull did in uh, Dirty Harry.
Speaker 6And to keep in mind that that's kind of mind blowing is this film is about the Zodiac Killer and it came out while they were still hunting the Zodiac Killer.
Speaker 5Like it was.
Speaker 6It wasn't like years afterwards, like, oh, this will make a good story.
Speaker 5I was like, no, it was happening then it's yeah.
Speaker 3I made this nid comment earlier about it being an okay action film.
I was obviously joking about that that wasn't a serious coming.
Speaker 4I do love I do love Dirty Harry.
Speaker 3I mean this is the film I probably watched a thousand times with my dad as a kid.
This and like, you know this and then what's the all of these, all of those films, the Harry films.
Yeah, I think this is this is a really fun movie.
I think I actually got it gets better with rewatches for me too, like I kind of enjoy it more and more each time I say it, and I think I don't know that.
I don't know that this is If you were to say, like, list your favorite clinice Wood performances, I don't know that this would be one of them for me.
I think he does better work in some of the other Harry films than he does here, just as an actor.
But this is the film of that series.
I mean, this is the one.
Ryan, do you hate this one like you hate every Clint Eastwood film?
Speaker 5No, this was the one that God tell me you've seen this one.
Speaker 2This was the one I protected because I adore the score, primarily as somebody that grew up on jazz and everything this is.
This is a remarkable piece just of music.
Everything about this is.
Speaker 4Yeah.
The Schifferent's car is incredible.
Speaker 5Score.
Speaker 4Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3It's a great film, and unfortunately it's gonna be incinerator.
Speaker 4All of us.
Stop that stop that same one of the great great American directors of his era, Dirty Harry is arguably like maybe his greatest film, and now you're going to throw it in the incinerator like this.
Speaker 5Is just.
Speaker 4Past.
We're saving it for the children.
Speaker 2Let's be honest to Dennis.
You threw it into the incinerator.
Speaker 3Yes, for everybody listening, is the one whod dirty Hairy?
Speaker 4Yeah, Just so it's all out there.
Speaker 3And speaking of incinerating Dirty Harry, it's done, it's gone.
It is now no longer in our memory.
Craig, you got a weighty decision here because there are two titles left, So you are extensively choosing the number one film, the film that is safe from all of this madness, and your choices are unforgiven.
And the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 5You want me to type in the one I'm in.
Speaker 4Though ascating, as as the Knight says in the Last Crusade, choose wisely, not poorly.
Okay, I'm very.
Speaker 5There is only one reason I'm picking this one.
Speaker 4So this is the film that he is incinerating.
Speaker 3It is the wrong choice, but it is the choice nevertheless, and he is right.
Speaker 4This word also.
Speaker 3Will serve as the way I will feel about Craig moving forward at number.
Speaker 5Two at this podcast, at this point.
Speaker 3Craig is incinerating quite possibly the greatest Western ever made.
Speaker 4Unforgiven.
Speaker 5Let me explain myself.
Speaker 4Thank god I didn't have to write that in there.
I know that's all I'm gonna say.
I mean, I'll go to my grave saying I incinerated dirty Harry.
But at least I didn't have to give.
Speaker 2A forgiving.
Speaker 5I have to say filthy Harold.
Okay, unforgiven.
Speaker 6Is the only thing preventing it from being one hund perfection.
Speaker 5Is I'm not a huge fan of the actor who played the kid that couldn't see very well.
I can't think of the character's names.
It's a minor squabble.
But otherwise, like the film, perfect movie, and.
Speaker 4You're letting that bastard ruin this list.
Speaker 6He had.
Speaker 5I found him annoying, and I guess that was the character's point.
Speaker 4Is fantastic?
Are you gonna?
Are you gonna kill me?
Speaker 3Now?
Speaker 4But hell, you're the only friend I got.
I think the kid's fantastic.
The pigs, the sick pigs in the beginning, all right, I think they were faking it.
Speaker 13They And also on the other side of the reason is I don't have a single solitary issue with a single frame of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 5It is one of the most iconic.
Speaker 6Scores in film history, with a cast and story that's it's just a perfect goddamn movie.
I watched it recently with a friend of mine who'd never seen it before, and we were watching it, and I'd seen it a dozen times already, and as we're watching it, knowing I'm watching it with someone who'd never seen it before, I'm kind of extra analyzing it as I'm watching, and I'm realizing it's a perfect freaking movie.
Like and after it was over, my friend was just like mine was blown because being the youngster he is, he knew the music from the Old Spice commercials or.
Speaker 5No, it wasn't Old Spice, it was it.
Speaker 6Was some commercial for some thing on TV.
And he's like, I knew that music, and I'm like, yeah, it's from this.
Speaker 4It's like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a counter I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here.
Greig and I and I absolutely love good, the bad, and the ugly, and I'm not gonna incinerate that one either.
It's I think it's it's one of the greatest films ever made.
But I will say that the uh, the scenes they added in the extended version are kind of dull and exchange.
Speaker 5No, they're unnecessary.
Speaker 4Yeah, so you see it's not absolutely perfect the way that unforgiveness.
Speaker 5So it's because some idiot added those scenes.
Speaker 4Afterwards, like they know they should have been cut out, like lambers of the gang and they're cooking potatoes.
Speaker 5They were cut for a reason.
You don't need to put them back in.
Speaker 4Levan Cleef meets like one of the Confederate commanders.
You know, there's it's like seven, I don't know how many minutes of footage, but you watch it and go, Wow, they didn't need any of this.
Speaker 5And I'm forgiven again.
Speaker 6I saw that in the theater probably five times, like I've watched it countless times since.
It's it's it's like this the spiritual sequel to that other brilliant film that we incinerated.
Speaker 5It's it's yeah, it's I mean so.
Speaker 4To again play Devil's Advocate.
Not only is it one of Eastwood's greatest performances as an actor, it is it is I think, you know, not even arguably his greatest film as a director.
It's one of the great American filmmakers of all time, of his era.
It is one of the greatest films about violence and what it means to actually take another person's life, the horrible moral weight of that.
Speaker 6Yeah, you don't just take you know what they've got, You take all of what they would have had, like my.
Speaker 4God, and it's got all of the iconic sort of Dirty Harry, like plent Eastwood lines.
You know, I don't deserve to die like this deserves.
Speaker 5I mean, hackman.
Speaker 4Man really should have armed himself before he went decorating his porch with my friend.
Speaker 6Yeah, there is no good reason to incinerate this film.
Yeah, other than were playing this stupid ass game.
Speaker 3I gotta say.
I gotta say.
My favorite line of Dirty Harry is one word to two letters, and it's uh, I'll see you at hell.
Will you have money?
Yeah, that's it, just that one.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 3So then the slow lift of the rifle, like, oh god, I love that movie.
Yeah, you're right, there's no good reason to considerate except you just did the duck.
Speaker 5We're incinerating the duck.
Speaker 4Of death, the duck of death.
No, you typed it in there, choice, You had a choice.
Well, so tying it in that means the film left standing so unforgiven.
We need to say goodbye to it because it's not going to exist for us anymore, just for the future just for the kids.
So kids, you've got to treat in store for you, but for all of us, as of this moment, it's gone.
Speaker 3So that means the last film standing is my favorite of this particular trilogy.
So that's good.
Which is the good, the bad, and the ugly, all words I have.
Speaker 4Been called multiple times over my life.
Speaker 3We talked a little bit about it, you know, like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of this of spaghetti westerns, but this one is my favorite of the three, is the one I've seen the most.
I think it's the most substantial too.
And you know, look, I mean it's the good, the bad, the ugly.
Like, what are you gonna say about this movie?
It's considered one of the greatest films of all time for a reason, right, Like, I mean, I may not agree with that, but who am I?
So, Craig, what was it about this film?
So you said you think this film is more perfect because it doesn't have because you have a think against blind people and so so, so are there no blind people in the Good Bad?
Surely there's someone shaking a tin can somewhere.
I mean, there's not.
Speaker 6He it's really no defending anything that we've just done.
Like, I feel filthy, like such a bad idea.
Speaker 4Yeah, ever since, ever since outlawed Josie Wells went in the incinerator and he can't he that's three points.
Speaker 3Technically, that's three points, but we're already past the number one spot, so there's really no penalty we can give you.
So you found the loophole.
You found the loophole.
We did it, everybody, we got through it.
Speaker 5I can get to the end of the show and feel good.
Speaker 3No wait, but I think Mitchell Bopray generally feels good at a fine accomplishment, at the game that they've played.
Speaker 4Okay, So to make us feel better, because Craig and I are just an utter misery at having to incinerate some of our all time favorite films by one of my all time favorite actors and directors, I will share my funny Clintie's with story.
So we got them to come to the cinema Tech.
This is in the early nineteen nineties, So jesus thirty thirty years ago for a screening of Dirty Harry and The Beguile, both of which I can't mention.
I guess points are now taken away from me.
I don't care.
You can't hurt me anymore.
And I asked his assistant at the time.
I said, well, does mister east would want anything in the green room before the show?
And she goes, oh, wait, I'll ask him, and she comes back and says, yeah, he'd like a little sushi.
I said, oh, really, you know what kind?
How much?
Speaker 10Oh?
Speaker 4Like just an order of tuna sushi.
I said, okay, well we'll get him like a tray and she says, no, no, no, just like single, single order of sushi, a couple of pieces.
He's coming from the studio from work and driving to the time we were screening at the Director's Guild theater, and I said, really just to see Yeah, yeah, just single order sushi.
Okay.
So time goes by night of the screening, I send someone out to a sushi restaurant on sunset and they come back with this big takeout box and it's got two pieces of sushi in it.
That's what he asked for.
So we're all sitting in the green room and of course I'm like, you know, sweating bullets, I'm meeting one of you know, my all time heroes in Eastwood, talking about Don Siegel and then I go, oh, mister Eastwood, did we have a little snack for you?
Your office said you'd like some sushi.
I opened the box for him.
He looks in this big box with the two little pieces of tuna.
He kind of screws up his face and then he turtains to the rest of us, holding the box open, going would anyone likes some sushi?
And genius He must have thought that this was a joke that we've eaten the rest of the sushi.
I don't know what, but that was my introduction to meeting melted him with two pieces of sushi.
Speaker 3I just love the idea of him, like him walking off the set of Unforgiven and his William money costs and walking over to craft Services and grabbing some tuna sushi before he runs back on set.
Yeah yeah, wow, Well, is Craig as painful as it was?
We got through it, and there's only one Clint Eastwood film that is going to remain Because what you don't know is that right now we're going to incinerate every other Clint Eastwood film that did not make this list from existence.
Speaker 4So if it didn't make this.
Speaker 3List in any way, shape or form, it's gone.
Speaker 4No, wait, I still have three of my I don't know what the hell they're called.
So it's all save and I'm saving any which way you can.
Speaker 5The beauty of physical media is you can't take it away.
It's on my shelf right there.
Speaker 4I'm saving.
I'm saving Cougan's bluff and damn it, I'm saving two mules for sister Sarah.
Speaker 3I'm saving the mule just because I have to give plent Eastwood credit for wanting to do it.
Speaker 5It didn't make our list.
We didn't even mention that is a crime?
Is Kelly's Heroes?
Speaker 4Like, oh Jesus, you know the I have the Blu Rays the set of Kelly's Heroes and where eagles dare?
Speaker 6He?
Speaker 4Which is?
You want to talk about some macho movies?
Speaker 3Name drop it while you can.
They won't be here in a few seconds.
Yeah, I'm still pissed.
You took Play Misty for Me before we even started the game.
Speaker 4I had what happened?
Why did Play Misty for Me not make it under the list?
Speaker 3Because I put it was based on what was sent It wasn't quite the one that should have been there.
Speaker 4Oh I see, okay, Just what kind of question is anyone actually seen Breezy, the movie that he directed with William Holten.
I have not.
It's one of those outliers.
I still have not actually watched Breezy White.
Speaker 6Black Heart, like you know, the rookie, watch the rookie.
Speaker 4Maybe not, maybe not the rookie.
Huh.
I really liked White Hunter black Heart.
But he's doing such a weird John Houston impersonation in the film trying.
I wish he just played it straight.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, he's he's so animated, like seeing Clint Eastwood that animated.
Speaker 5Is is a little guardy.
I do remember liking the film though.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, well there we have it.
Speaker 4Everybody rope there's you know, where's the one where he's he has to go, uh steal the the high tech Russian jet fighter?
Oh yeah, Firefoh yeah, Firefox.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 4Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3Oh no, it's incinerated now every time you name it, if you name it, it gets incinerated.
Speaker 2What are you doing?
Speaker 4What are you doing?
Speaker 5Is brilliant and at the time the special effects were amazing.
Speaker 4Well right now those special effects are burned.
They are incinerated.
Speaker 3Everybody, thank you so much for indulging us in this.
Uh descent into madness and hell.
So now that every single Clint Eastwood film has been damaged or incinerated, except for the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 4It's all ugly.
There's no good, there's no bad.
It's ugly.
Speaker 2From here on.
Speaker 3End, I want to I want to thank Dennis and Craig for death, crocodile, for subjecting themselves to this Saturday morning madness.
They have nothing to say.
They're just they're depleted.
Their soul has left their body, Their souls have left their bodies.
Speaker 6Imposed to say thank you for having us, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4It's righted dirty Harry and he incinerated, unforgiven, which don't exist anymore, apparently for anyone.
They don't know there are scenes on our soul.
Right, they will weigh heavy upon us here today.
Speaker 2Billy Ray, I'm a master of reading lips.
Craig said, fuck you for having us.
Speaker 3Oh, I'm glad.
I'm glad that you can.
Speaker 4I'm glad that you can read lips.
I'm glad that you can.
Okay, oh no, we had a great time.
Thank you so much for having My.
Speaker 3Hope is that it's painful as it is, it's still better than having like chronic diarrhea.
That's my hope is it's at least better than having chronic diarrhea.
Speaker 4Okay, I didn't use any three of my I don't know what were they?
Good consciousness, being good conscious in good conscience?
Do you just make these rules up?
Speaker 2Not anymore?
Speaker 4Not anymore.
Speaker 3We got to set rules.
We've got set rules.
Speaker 5Now.
Speaker 3What you just experienced was the most organized show we've ever had.
Speaker 4Then, really, Oh Jesus Christ, I'm so bad.
Next, poor suckers who come on this show.
Speaker 3We'll be back in a couple of weeks with another episode of The Incerator.
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Gentlemen, thank you so much.
Speaker 5Thanks for having us Painful fun.
Speaker 4Painful fun is exactly what we're going for, Ryan, any parting.
Speaker 2Words, I felt awful watching two people I respect go through that much turmoil.
I think we may name this episode the Good, the Bad, and the Lamenting, the.
Speaker 3S and m of podcasts, The good, the bad of the very very sorry.
Speaker 4We really made a mistake.
Picking someone whose movies we love, who's like, yeah, we don't give it.
Speaker 3You have a bowls out there?
Why not you have a bowl?
Uh?
The Incinerator podcast is hosted by me Billy Ray Brutney, co hosted and produced by Ryan verrel Hi Ryan Uh.
Speaker 4Theme song by Dan Sugimoto.
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