
·S6 E13
"Motorcycles" w/ Meatball
Episode Transcript
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This is George Severs, co host of Stradio Lab, and my debut comedy special is now officially out on all platforms.
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Speaker 2So see it there.
Speaker 3Podcast starts now breaking news.
George is in a good mood.
Yeah, I'd love to hear about why.
Speaker 1Well, I just am excited to like finally be sitting down on a chair and talking to friends.
Speaker 3I would I can't help but wonder, uh huh you that is sort of ninety percent of your life totally.
Why does now feel different?
Speaker 1Well, because I've been listen.
I'm in LA I'm staying in a hotel and it's a lot of like laptop work in my hotel.
There's something that Boutik hotels are doing now which is so cool, which is that they look like prison cells, kind of like if you pay extra, it can look like you're Natalie Portman and v for Vendetta and we'll even and actually shave your head.
Yeah.
And speaking of shaved heads, I actually had something I wanted to show you, so I will.
Now this is going to come out after I'm away from LA, so I can dox myself and Sam staying at the Line hotel, The Line Los Angeles, Okay, and I enter there's a QR code.
It says there's a barber shop on site.
I say, perfect, beause I've actually been meaning to clean up my neck a little bit.
I click the QR code and I look at the offerings at the barber shop, and I want you to read to me.
So we're we have haircut, buzz cut, back of neck, razor cleanup.
Start sort of scrolling and see what you see.
Speaker 3I'm so scared.
What if I don't see it?
Speaker 2This is we're going to see it?
Speaker 3Is it the signature bespoke?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 3No, okay, I'm so scared.
Speaker 1Therapy therapy.
Would you like to read?
Speaker 2What that is?
Speaker 3A zoom call with our therapist, an exploration of your internal limitations that will help shape the new you.
Speaker 1The barbershop offers zoozoom therapy.
Speaker 3What the hell?
Speaker 1And by the way, I don't know if you noticed, cheaper than a haircut.
A therapy session is one hundred dollars for thirty minutes.
A haircut is one twenty What the Line Hotel in Los Angeles barbershop offers the cheapest therapy and the most expensive haircut you can find in the Stay of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3That is so shocking.
Speaker 1A bus cut is eighty dollars I paid.
Speaker 3I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1Thirty six dollars for a fade.
In New York City, a bus cut is eighty dollars one length all over.
If we begin to fade, that is considered a haircut and not a bus cut.
A fad is one hundred and twenty dollars at the line A that's in the description.
Speaker 3Yes, there's no need to be that.
Speaker 2Litigious therapy session is one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3What are these people doing?
Also?
Speaker 1Also, who in Los Angeles is coming?
It's like they came here for the big meeting and it's not going their way, and they're like, I'm like, on my last let I need a therapy, a zoom therapy session at the barber shop right now.
Speaker 3A therapist at the barbershop pus no concept of my history, like has no idea what I've been up to, and basically I have to be like so basically my mom was like this, my dad was like this, and my meeting went like this, please help.
Speaker 1You are walking in with a knife pointed to your wrist and you're saying, if I don't get the zoom therapy session at the barber shop, line la right now, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3Why the barbershop I mean, let's start here.
I think therapy from the hotel is of course insane, but why put it in the barber shop.
Speaker 1It's kind of like, you know, they have various offerings and there's like food, room service, whatever, and therapy is kind of miscellaneous.
So they're like, well, it's kind of wellness.
Speaker 3It's kind of wellness.
You should add it to the spa.
You need to make a spa.
Speaker 1That's true.
Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 2Part of the spa.
Speaker 3I don't know there's a spot even.
Speaker 1Honestly, part of the gym would make more sense in the barber shop.
Speaker 3That's true.
Is it therapy?
Like are they just leaving out the word massage?
Speaker 1Like nope, it is.
It's like a better help type thing.
And by the way, it's a better health type thing where like there are there I actually know someone I know her father is doing this kind of in an almost post retirement age.
He's he's just like at home doing thirty minute zoom sessions and it's sort of like he doesn't have any real consistent clients.
Speaker 3They just pop in for a sign of yeah, just be like I have to.
Speaker 1He's probably a partner with the Line Hotel Los Angeles.
Speaker 3They're like, I called my friends, she didn't answer some not too.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's like, girl, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3Well, you know what it is.
It's that thing from like five years ago, when it would be like are you in a place where you can hear my negative energy?
Like that?
People have really internalized that and they're like, okay, so I'm not on to talk to anyone unless they are technically a therapist.
No one else can give me consent properly for me to complain to them.
Speaker 1You know what I was thinking though, And after this we will bring in our guest.
Okay.
Obviously I don't love that the barbershop offers therapy.
Okay, but imagine a world where you could simply combine getting a haircut and going to therapy.
You have the barber there.
They I don't know, maybe the sign an NDA.
They don't they they are not allowed to like talk about anything they've heard.
Speaker 2But you kill two birds with one stone.
Speaker 1They both take sort of approximately like forty five minutes.
You get a haircut while doing therapy.
You're also in a more vulnerable place off when you're on the barber's chair.
Speaker 3Not to I'm like, the thing is you can have this if you just pick the right barber.
Speaker 1No, no, I mean, okay, you're saying your barber is your therapy.
Speaker 3I'm saying, like the reason we I'm sort of stuck on this, like we need therapy now because everyone is like, I have no time to talk to you.
Like whereas if you had a community and a sense of place and you could talk to your barber and be like, you've known me since I was fourteen, what do you think about this thing that's happening to me, then you could sort of grow and he would be like, oh, you know, it's like this, this, this, and it would you'd be like, oh, I love my trusted community.
I don't need a therapist anymore.
I just talked to my barber for thirty minutes.
Speaker 1Well, you know, it's interesting as someone who comes from you know, a small village in Greece, a couple of generations like Athens and so before that, it's one of the largest.
My great grandparents came from villages, and you know, I visited those villages and in those villages, actually, everyone you encounter is a therapist of some sort, and each different modality, like one of them is a little more accepting one of them will just call you fat.
One of them will be like, your your mother was a slut.
Your grandmother was a slut when she was in the village, not my mother.
She grew up in Athens.
Your grandmother was a slut when she was in the village, And then that's kind of it.
One of them will take their teeth out, and so you kind of get it's like shopping for therapists but for free, and you got all these different modalities.
Some of them are more LGBTQ plus friendly, some of them actually violently homophobic.
Speaker 3Which is valid, which is valid.
Speaker 2I mean that's their training, that's their training, and that's valid.
Speaker 3I mean my barber currently is so helpful to really yes more to him.
Well, he is like kind of just like a like imagine like a crazy guy that lives in Silver Lake and who's like straight.
But then we'll be like yeah guys.
Speaker 2Like and you're like that's kind of best case scenario forst.
Speaker 3Case scenario, and like he's like this person where you're just like okay, so I can say anything to you and you'll like double ith like if I sound insane, you'll just say something more insane.
So I feel no self consciousness is talking to him at all.
Speaker 1So I had I know, we're edging our guests and we will bring her.
And I had the opposite experience when I lived in Boston in twenty sixteen and my barber was a Trump supporter, and where I kind of found myself, yes, anding too much, like I was trying to not express my beliefs, but also not like be combative, because what is the point of that, too would be like, you know.
Speaker 2The Democrats and Republicans are both bullshit.
Speaker 1I'm like, yeah, honestly, like for sure, like I definitely think they both have their issues.
But then it's like we would get comfortable, comfortable, comfortable.
He has a knife to my throat and and it's like okay.
Then he's telling me that he's voting for Trump, and I have to be like I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's tough.
You gotta find the right barber.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 3I know.
They have to write barber.
Speaker 1They have to be sort of in the DA say and voting for Zoran.
Speaker 3Yeah, to get that barber.
Let's pring our guest.
Speaker 2Our guest is, wow, you got this.
Speaker 3I believe in you.
Illuminary.
Speaker 2Oh okay, illuminary of the LGBTQ plus scene, especially if that scene is in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1Okay, she's local, I've toured the world.
Speaker 3Okay, local queen, And where would you go?
North Hollywood?
Please give it up for me?
Ba?
How are you so good?
How are you?
Speaker 2I'm sad because you guys keep talking about the barber, and my barber literally just sent me a text message being like, I'm moving to West Adams.
I know this means nothing to you.
Speaker 3What's West Adams.
Speaker 2It's like on the it's like Century City.
It's just it's just too far from me to go.
Speaker 3That's really.
Speaker 2It's like in my neighborhood.
And he was my therapist and he was he gay.
I mean, well he has a wife and daughter, but but he hooked up with you guys.
No, he is cool and like would let me like rant to him all the time.
Yeah, and bright pink hair.
I'm giving too much away.
I shouldn't keep telling you.
But he's like moving and I don't know how to break up with him.
I guess that's the problem.
Maybe.
And also with the line Hotel best Martini I've ever really you go down by the pool, there's a bar that's in a greenhouse.
Have you explored the hotel open air?
I don't know.
I just know where it is when I'm in a blackout totally.
And so then I go up there and I drink my martinis.
And that's where the therapist should be.
That's the martini and there.
Speaker 1They should just add a therapy option to their various amenities.
Okay, I got a therapist, and the jamming and therapist, and the restaurant can get therapists.
Speaker 2The bar is The problem with the therapists in a barbershop is I don't want to look at myself when I'm talking about myself.
Speaker 3That's very like.
Speaker 1That's like me on every Zoom meeting where I have to then remember you should be paying attention rather than just looking at like how your facial line are forming when you're saying.
Speaker 3Watching my reactions, being like that's a good reaction.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was really natural.
Speaker 2Good job to stop Zoom therapy because I was just staring totally south and then I was like, I need to meet a person in person.
He also would get mad at me because he'd be like, are you making a cocktail during this?
When I was like, we're halfway through.
Speaker 3What what are you going to do?
Speaker 2Would be like at six at night?
Speaker 1Yeah, that's cocktail.
Speaker 3You're doing that thing where you're mixing up yours like a SMR.
Yeah exactly.
I currently have a therapist, which is so interesting.
The hell, yeah, I didn't tell you.
You don't tell what you have to tell you?
How you is this like three weeks?
Speaker 1I love you did not tell me.
We talk every single day like pretty much nons.
Speaker 3Yeah, about business, a personal thing about business and work and deals.
Speaker 2We talk big deals.
Speaker 1We're here, I do read detail about this motherfucker sex life.
Speaker 3We talk deals.
Yeah, we talk sex.
We talk deals.
Speaker 1We talk sex and deals and MARTINIZ and Martiniz.
And then we hate.
We hate in the comedy scene, which is everyone, which is everyone, by the.
Speaker 2Way, Well that's like normal comedy, right, or you have to.
Speaker 3Have enemies and many I think because I hate.
Speaker 1Sorry, I will let you finish.
Because we hate so many people than the people we do love.
We've become like overly like supportive of like I would die for her, yeah, and literally.
Speaker 3I had, but I was sort of like, I'm sort of disappointed in therapy as a premise.
Speaker 1Totally, which we both of us always have that.
Speaker 2No, I hate it.
Speaker 1I'm kind of like, let's fix it.
Speaker 3Well, and like my guy is fine, he's like whatever, But every he's just sort of like you're doing amazing, Like, oh, drop him him.
Speaker 2You need someone that challenges you.
Speaker 1Know, it's true.
Speaker 3How do you get a tough what if no one can challenge me because I am doing amazing totally?
Speaker 2Well, you know we're hitting on something real right now.
Speaker 1You know, when you have a friend who's like super difficult and like impossible to deal with, and people are like, she needs to go sorry to gender her female, she needs to go to therapy, I'm like, but what if the therapist just tells her she's right?
Speaker 2Yeah, I had a friend that had that.
Yeah, it was like many peoples.
Yes, they always get worse and then they start using therapy speak on you well, and you're just like I can't deal with you right now.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Yeah, well I'm just waiting.
I'm not going to stop until I get him to quit.
I'm gonna I wanted to be like I wanted to be like fuck, like you're such an amazing client that like it's unethical for me to continue.
Speaker 1So if you feel comfortable talking about it more like what don't kinds of things?
Speaker 3Is?
Speaker 1Are you thinking?
Speaker 4Like?
Speaker 1Is this a problem you tell us of?
Speaker 3What of that?
Speaker 2He has a therapist that he tells me?
Are you worried that I'm talking about you?
Speaker 1But no, I wanted to like, what kinds of things you're being affirmed too much on?
Speaker 3Literally?
Speaker 1Is it like family stuff?
Speaker 3Yeah, but i'll literally that details her.
Yeah, I'll just sort of like figure better than I'll explain the situation and sort of how I handled it.
Yeah, he'll sort of be like, No, that sounds like the appropriate way to handle it.
Speaker 1But I do actually think you did handle all of that stuff appropriately having insight into it.
Speaker 2Good for you.
I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds like you did great.
Speaker 1Sam.
It was very good at conflict resolution.
Speaker 3It's true, but it's but I guess it was like, okay, but other than handling it, like how do you not get stressed out by it?
And like the way that they don't have an answer to that is frustrated.
Speaker 1Well, the answer is stand therapy indefinitely.
Speaker 2Yeah, with shots, get out of there, Get out of there.
Sometimes you just gotta go wild.
I was doing therapy for like three years.
Now I quit.
I've never been crazier and I'm living my best life.
But you you put people through how No, I'm not.
I'm just living life.
Speaker 3You seem like you're actually just living life positive.
You actually do seem like in.
Speaker 2Mind my business.
But I also like took the tools from therapy.
There's a point where you have to stop for a while and see like how you are in the world out all of that, and so now like I will step back and be like, how did I handle that?
Well, that probably wasn't good.
Should I send an apology text?
And then that's when the therapy steps in and goes, girl, just do your life.
Don't send an apology?
Who cares?
Speaker 1Never apologize.
Speaker 2Therapy, Yeah, never apologize.
Do not take responsibility for anything?
Speaker 1Yeah, steal?
Don't you think that like more than fifty percent of apologies are actually a manipulative.
Speaker 3Yes, Like, what are we going to do about that?
I have no idea.
Well, there's like a next level that we haven't reached yet, which is what of like I don't know what it will be, but like of sort of recklessness that will like recklessness with knowing all the rules that'll be like better.
Speaker 1Oh like and you kind of.
Speaker 3Like how like people sort of how liberal people now?
Like there can be like dirt bag left.
You can like use bad.
Speaker 1Words or Dirk woke darklow.
We need dark woke.
But for manners.
Yes, literally, that's genius to be a what is the word I'm looking for?
You know what is it called when someone writes a book about manners?
Etiquete etiquet.
Speaker 2Yes, there needs to be Jesus, there needs to be an etiquette book.
Speaker 1It's barely early.
To be honest, there needs to be an etiquette book for people who are real as fuck.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 2Absolutely, I do you listen to Delta Works podcast.
Everything is so real.
Speaker 1Delta Work should write this book.
Speaker 2She needs to write the book because it really.
Speaker 1It's like you, yes you should bring a gift.
Yes you should apologize, yes you, yes you should say please and thank you, but in a way that isn't centering yourself and like placing the like being emotionally ma manipulative.
Speaker 3I do not consent to needing to bring a gift.
Speaker 1Oh, this is one of Sam's things.
Do you bring a gift?
Speaker 3Uh?
Speaker 1What's the scenario I would say, going to a dinner party, like, do would you bring back a bottle of wine?
Speaker 2Well, okay, okay, it's something that you like swing by a step.
Speaker 1Would you bring a gift to a wedding?
Speaker 2Yes?
Would you you like just send money?
Speaker 3Okay?
What if you're like staying with friends for one night, do you bring something?
Speaker 2I mean, do they stay with you sometimes?
Is it like a trade off situation?
Sure?
Then now love that?
Okay, here's if you don't.
Speaker 1I think if you don't bring a gift, then you treat them to dinner.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I always pay for their dinner or like drinks if we go out, because they're letting me.
Speaker 3I always do that as well.
I have a Okay, here's one that I thought was funny.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3So I was at a comedian's small house gathering last week and it was sort of this this type of comedian where everyone is like everyone's cool, and I was like, I.
Speaker 1Was like Amy.
Speaker 3Schumer uh and my and my husband Misha was like, well, should I should be bring something?
And I was like, we're coming from something.
I actually think we shouldn't bring something because this is like the type of thing where it's almost better not to show up without anything.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, And then we show up without everything, and everyone else also didn't bring anything, and I was sort of like, I was like, it's actually kind of good, Like we would have looked like cooks if we if we had brought something.
Speaker 1So funny is my mind, I would have been like wow, I would have been the star of the party.
Speaker 2If I had been the one to bring a bottle of wine.
Speaker 3I think it would have felt like you were like not you didn't feel comfortable coming with nothing.
Speaker 1But then I would have made a joke about it, and I would have been like, wow, looks like everyone else is like.
Speaker 3Everyone else would have drank it, and you would have sat there being like.
Speaker 2Well, me one time a very similar thing happened, but I did bring a bottle, like I.
It was celebrity house, Amy Shimmer, it was Amy Summer.
Everyone was like invited over.
It was for her birthday, and I was like, let me grab a bottle of tequila because I didn't know, And so I just go and buy like Espolo twenty five dollars Trader Joe's.
I thought this will be fine.
I get there everyone it's dressed up like almost black tie, I mean a t shirt and jeans.
I go, oh, I brought you this, and she looked at it and she went ah, kind of like put it in the garage, like didn't even put it on the liquor table because there was like four hundred dollars bottles of whatever, like the craziest booze I've ever seen.
And I was like, great, okay, cool, cool, cool, and then I just left.
Speaker 3No, that can be really hurtful.
Speaker 2I haven't heard a word from her.
She didn't thank me, So that's fine.
Speaker 1You expect to thank you note for your esplonor fucking bitch.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 2I yeah, but it was very embarrassing.
So now I'm like always trying to like read the room because like I've been to another pool party where she was like, please bring white claw and I was like, that is something I can do.
And then at the end of the party she was like, please take your white claw with you, and she like, let us all take her out in a home.
Speaker 1That's nice now that to take it back to your home.
To me, I don't like, there's something very I went crazy.
Something wass me about that?
Speaker 2To me, she doesn't drink.
Speaker 1She was like, I don't want to.
Speaker 2There was too much, okay, And then I stole a bottle of tequila off the liquor tabemark because I was like, well, she said.
Speaker 3Well she's sober, it'd be dangerous for her.
Speaker 2And it seems like, you know, half the bottle is just going to go bad if you leave it out.
Speaker 1I've seen that episode of in just like Real has a bottle of it was gin throw it down the shoot.
Yeah, I've heard the Lily Allen song Relapse.
I get it.
Speaker 2I get it.
Speaker 3I'm scared lapse.
So Meetball and I were having an interesting realization before you got here, which is the you know we both you know, Meetball was like, aren't you always at the Eagle?
And I was like, totally, I'm always.
Speaker 2At Eagle, That's what he says, but I never and we've.
Speaker 3Never seen each other there.
I mean, somebody's lying one time, maybe one time in all of two years.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is are you going night?
I know that's when Sam like I.
Speaker 2Have been on Thursday nights.
But I think that we're two ships passing because I'll get there like, I mean they open it four, so I'll get there like five to eight.
Speaker 1Oh you're doing cocktail afo.
Yeah, And like, what's happening after eight?
Speaker 2Well, that's when I think it starts the sign.
Guess what's happening with you after eight?
Yeah?
Speaker 3What do you do after eight?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 2At home with the cats?
Speaker 1Los Angeles?
You guys need you guys need a consultant.
There needs to be a McKinsey consultant that comes to Los Angeles and teaches everyone what to do after eight pm?
Speaker 2What what should I be doing?
Speaker 1More drinks?
Speaker 2That's a problem.
And you've seen me in a blackout that's it's dark.
Go to a dinner if I've already been drinking for three hours.
I'm not the type of don't talk down to me.
I'm not the type of girl that can have like two or three drinks and be like I'm fine.
I'm like, like, it's like three double tequila.
So it is an hour, an hour, an hour because I need to I need something in my mouth if I'm not vaping, if I don't have something like my mouth needs tequila, and I will go full blown crazy and no one will know that I'm blackout because my eyes don't go like totally loud.
Speaker 3I will say it's hard to tell with don't you think people do know no, because I don't know George, do they because I know I haven't.
You're kind of like a like a like you kind of blackout energy in general.
Speaker 2Okay, we're like really good coming for her.
No, this is not I accept it.
Speaker 3Okay, this is just like a like it's a truth.
Speaker 2Maybe that's my body protecting itself.
It's like if you always act crazy, no one will know when you're in full blackout.
Because there's been times like I'm hosting a show and then two nights later someone's like, oh, that was so funny when this happened, and I look him in the eye and I'm like, yeah, ma'mba.
Speaker 3Because I'm always like, is this part of the performance of Meatball or is this like or is this like a feeling.
Speaker 2Thank you for calling it a performance?
Speaker 3Thank you?
Speaker 1So I feel like you have there's something controlled.
Even now talking to you, I'm like, there are times and you're like, I'm now gonna like I'm now gonna do what she's reading.
Speaker 2I'm just kidding.
I came here and I am being.
Speaker 1I'm literally doing the opposite.
I'm saying, you have very The performance is very controlled.
It doesn't seem chaotic and messy.
Speaker 2So you're saying, well, also, New York is open until for you.
Speaker 1Well, but less and less.
You'd be surprised.
Speaker 3I know Bushwick and it was closing it too.
It happened to the city I actually.
Speaker 1Would like to call I would like to name some names please.
Is recently at the nine Orchard Hotel with two dear friends of mine and their hotel bar closed at one am.
Speaker 3Disgusting, okay.
Speaker 1And they turned on the lights and they also had this the thing they did with lights.
They turned them on and then every two minutes they would get brighter, which is the most passive like.
And this happened like there were six levels of brightness.
They turned them on and then they got brighter and brighter and brighter until they were like blinding and you had to leave.
I'm like, we're in the Lower east Side.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's crazy.
Lost seven has walked these streets.
That's where I used to live.
We were out until four or in the morning, I'm telling you.
And then paint.
Did you ever go to painkillers?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 2It was like a tekee bar that was like down.
It was amazing, but you could only they woud always be like, you can only have one of each cocktail because they were so strong.
But they would stay open until five or six in the morning.
Speaker 3Wow, and we would just.
Speaker 2Stay out drinking.
But they never turned the lights on.
But recently I was just in Peetown and I was in a dark room at a bar and they did no at one am.
They but it was a flicker at first, and I was like, well, okay, that's like I'm going to get to work.
And then it was like on for a while and then I like saw who I was blowing and then like kind of looked around the room and I was like and they were like closing up shop, and I was like, just come in and clap and say we're closing.
Yeah, I don't want to see what I'm up to.
That I don't need to see it in the light.
Speaker 3That's rude.
Speaker 1That is really rude.
And I would say almost like non consensual, Like you signed up for a very particular sexual experience and it is being alternated without your consent.
Speaker 3Yeah, red light.
Speaker 2I don't want to look over and see leis of a queen fucking some guy's face.
Queen all love, but she knows what she did.
Speaker 1She does, and so does everyone in that room.
Because it was so bright.
Speaker 2It was so bright and it was yeah, it was like just like multiple multiple fluorescent like yeah, it wasn't just like one light bulb coming on.
It was just like full brightness like this.
Speaker 1There was a podcast recorded.
Speaker 3Better how I speaking of controlled performance.
One time we were at a pool party together and the way that you were holding court was really so black out.
Speaker 1I got a text about it afterwards.
It was like, we have to have me on the pods.
Speaker 3I was like, I've never seen anything like this I had come from.
Were you actually drunk?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 2I was.
It's so impossible to tell because we just great.
Great, hey guys, I like to drink.
I I had was drunk the night before because I think it was like fat Slut was the night before or something.
Speaker 1And then it was hat slut.
Speaker 2It's my party that I throw up precinct.
Speaker 3Oh my god.
Speaker 2Also, we've had sold out shows in Japan, Austin, New York, Wow, Boston.
I'm gonna name other places because I've been places.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, from Boston to Japan.
Speaker 2Yeah, Japan was crazy.
Now, talk about a place the bars don't even open until midnight and until five am, and it's all because the train schedules, the trains close at midnight and they open back up at four, so people just party all night and then go home.
Speaker 3That's nice.
Speaker 2But yeah, I had was hungover and then I went out to get drinks with my friend who I had brought beforehand, and then I was like I'm gonna being skinny in front of hem.
So I ordered a salad and then like three martinis and then I was like, I gotta wake up.
And I was like, we gotta go, we gotta go this pool far, we gotta wake up.
So I had like two espresso martinis.
Wow, it showed up.
And then was like by that guys, who's writing a party?
Speaker 3That is so interesting.
The way that I was stone cold sober that whole event, I know that hurt.
And honestly I was like you wereally holding corre and doing such a good job, and there was like a point where you tried to be like almost like throw to me, be like he knows and like I was supposed to then like rare crack under the pressure.
I have nothing to say.
Speaker 2Well, it's not hard to entertain, like fag k.
Speaker 3A bear yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
I mean they were eating all the palm in your hands, and this was your pool party.
No, this was someone else in the else's house.
Speaker 2This was and it was a bear party.
That's the house edition.
Speaker 3Bears.
Speaker 2Bears were in the pool displacing the water, and then all the skinny people were like up on a picnic bench.
Speaker 1Oh got it.
Speaker 3Yeah, so it was interesting.
Speaker 2I didn't realize that until I was in the pool.
Then, well, you subvert the bear, not bear.
Speaker 3I want to be over where the bears.
Speaker 2Yeah, while you're at the Eagle every Thursday, how does how sad does it get as the night goes on?
Thursdays are fun.
Speaker 3Thursday is the best night of the Eagle.
Quote me on this everyone Thursday.
If you get there at nine thirty.
By ten pm, you will see everyone you've ever met pass and they're all like mixy, mingly and sort of being like, oh, it's like it's a fun squad.
And then by midnight against everyone gets a little loopy and you're sort of like, I'm kind of scared now, but not in a bad way.
Speaker 2Well, it's like I'm scared.
Speaker 1Have you been to the Exley in Brooklyn?
It's it's after it it's open during the pandemic.
But all of there's something that happens after like eleven PM more people get exley eyes.
Yes, I've been, and that's when they are they turned into It's twenty eight days later.
Uh fat sled edition.
Speaker 2Because we walk from Metro over there.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2It was we were like in that back booth and there's something about just being in that dark little leg yeah trailer and just drinking.
Those drinks are very strong, are very strong.
Speaker 1But it's like everyone it's like tables of you know, little friend groups.
And then there is a few solo performers that just like are literally like Zomba five going from table to table being like, have you guys seen Bogonia?
Speaker 3They really want to talk.
They really want to talk.
You just have to beg they don't come to you.
Speaker 2Okay, well that's kind of the vibe.
Where was I Sunday at the Eagle?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2I was there at like four or five o'clock because I had just come from Chili's.
I don't know if you know this about Chili's, but they have Wicked Martini Margarita's.
Speaker 1Now like wicked branded, so wicked.
Speaker 2This season of branding isn't about Cynthia and Ariana crying and holding hands.
It's about it's.
Speaker 1About product place.
Yes, yes, because of course the first press store was so tasteful and minimalist, and now they're like, you know what, like let's go.
Speaker 3I'm like, I fear for them because I was watching Project Runway and you know.
Speaker 1They was there a wicked challenge.
Speaker 3There was a wicked challenge, and they like show up on a you know, pre filmed thing and like they must be in a studio for hours on end doing pre filmed things like they do Drag Race, they do Project Runway.
Speaker 2Were like, here's the thing is, these are two theater kids that this is what they want.
Speaker 3It's true.
Speaker 2They every day they wake up more excited.
I bet they're not complaining about anything.
Speaker 1That the brand sponsorships.
I think have gotten to a level where I wouldn't be surprised if it was announced that the city of Cleveland is now wicked.
Like I honestly think the next step is they choose a full American city, not New York, reli, but like a sort of second tier American city, and they're like Denver is now wicked.
Speaker 3It's weeks we're calling it Wicked Wicked Colorado.
Speaker 2I just got an email from Airbnb being like, would you like to meet Cynthia Evo at the Wicked Experience And it's like a three hour thing where you I think you just go into the Antelas forest and they've built like a wicked hut.
Speaker 1You haven't even replied.
They're like, you're on the list.
Speaker 2I would go and I would be walking in with my Chili's margarita one pink, one green.
They're disgusting, by the way.
I don't drink though, I.
Speaker 3Well, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2Ordered why I drove to Ensino to get them.
I made a group of people come with me.
Everyone's like, what's the point And they were all trying to order lunch and I was like, I'm drinking me.
This is my lunch.
And they wouldn't let me order two at a time.
So I made my friends order once so I could bring them together.
Please wouldn't let you order a Glinda and no one drink at a time?
Wow, you really have to choose whiwe Glinda police, They're like, just order as many as you can.
Speaker 3Please take take takes your take.
I mean, I think it's it is an It is inspired branding to be like like normally would be like now fruit loops are wicked theme, but to be like, no, this adult.
We're like marketing to adults as if they are children.
Speaker 1Know they're literally like the London Review of Books is pink and green for the month of October, so it's going they've done all the like kids stuff and now they're going up to like the Department of Defense is going.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, this when you pay your taxes, do you want them to be green or pink?
Speaker 1Greed?
Speaker 2Should we do our first segment?
Speaker 3We should do our first segment.
So our first segment is called straight Shooters, And in this segment, we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions to gauge you're familiarity with and complicity and straight culture.
It's basically this thing or this other thing.
It's basically this thing or this other thing.
Speaker 1You don't give him notes.
Speaker 3And the only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or we will get.
Speaker 1So yes, yes, okay to infinity and beyond or losing your virginity to James Bond, losing.
Speaker 2My virginity to James Bond.
Speaker 3Okay, I think you should leave, or so you think you can dance.
Speaker 2I think you should leave.
Speaker 1Cards against Humanity or barbs against Scissa and jay.
Speaker 2Z cards against humanity, and I hate that game.
Speaker 3Lump sum and residuals or shampoo and conditioner.
Speaker 1Viva Revolution or Diva.
I'm aniela Loz.
Speaker 3Diva j lo j law jpeg.
Speaker 1Oh j.
Speaker 2Oh jpeg.
Love a picture, send them.
Speaker 3Lave a picture, Love a picture, pictures, love those can't get enough.
Speaker 1Of rage against the machine, Hannick at the disco or out on the shelf, Out on.
Speaker 2The shelf, Love that little faggot.
Speaker 3Two broke girls or two woke queens.
Queen.
Speaker 2Wow, it's crazy that you decided not to do to do.
Speaker 3This was a There was a time which which Jim's bond was It definitely not Sean Connery.
Why not?
Speaker 1Wait, you don't like Sean Connery.
Speaker 2Do you know who seems like he would smell.
Speaker 1Which James bond of in history?
Would you really?
Can I tell you something?
What I think Daniel.
Speaker 2Greg is like, Oh I forgotten.
Speaker 1I think he's like so good in bed that it would like actually ruin your life for the most of time.
Speaker 2Oh wait, imagine him and Rachel Ice having sex.
Speaker 3Sorry, it's final.
Speaker 1You get pairs and I get Daniel.
Speaker 2Sorry, I am coming out of the water in that little speed out.
Speaker 1Oh my god, it's only getting hotter, sy Ages.
Speaker 3Yeah, well it's it's it's really beautiful.
And the rumor that like they're both gay and that they just like it's like a marriage.
I have to believe it.
Like, if I don't believe, that's like my believing in God.
If I don't believe in that, I have no purpose.
Speaker 2Jeremy Renner is gay, Right, that's the rumor, right when I that's crazy that you said that.
Speaker 3Is there any straight actor that doesn't have gay rumors?
Speaker 2Jacob or Diesel?
You think he is?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 3I think so too might be gay?
Yeah, legit?
Speaker 1Oh well that's fine.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Have you seen the videos of him singing alone to.
Speaker 1Oh sure, sure, okay, fine?
Speaker 2Then who am I thinking of?
I don't know, Sylvester Stallone.
I just don't think of like a big action that guy straight.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's straight.
Speaker 1Is just you know, sometimes, and I say this with a lot of love to the lesbian community, sometimes when an actress plays a lesbian on a film, lesbians forget that it's not real life, and so and if that happens twice or three times potentially, they're like, oh, that's proof.
Speaker 3To be fair.
Gay guys do that too, Like gay guys, I think a lot of gay.
I still think like Darren Chris is.
Speaker 1Gay totally totally, but I think I think men be No, he's straighter than Sylvester Stallone because he like is in the gayest possible communities and is still like, I love my wife, I love gay guys will kiss as a bit like he has no problems with his own sexuality, but he simply cannot help that he's straight?
Speaker 2Who straighter Darren Chris?
Matthew Morrison because he'd be in the community.
Speaker 3What's he up to?
Speaker 2What do you mean he's got a solo show right now and it's wonderful.
You go to look up clips on I'm sure change your mind.
Speaker 1I'm sure you can get tickets at Citywinery dot com.
Speaker 2They were free.
Speaker 1Do you remember when Beyonce did that performance where she was like and then did that to Matthew Morrison?
Speaker 2Oh yeah, it was really iconic and he was like, yeah, that was probably try to kiss her.
Yeah, maybe he is gay.
Speaker 3Well, we rate our guests on Skills zero two one thousand doves.
Speaker 1You don't want to be rated, you're opting out of the ratio.
Speaker 3I it's your show.
Speaker 2I'm sorry.
Speaker 3I mean it's important to get feedback.
Speaker 1I guess now that was a manipulative apology show.
Speaker 2I'm sorry.
Speaker 1You need Delta Works Book of et again.
Speaker 2She scares me.
She scares me, I know.
Speaker 1So what's the tea?
Do you know her?
Speaker 2Yeah?
We work at the same podcast studio.
So podcast Slappy Seconds with Big DIPPERA is on the Mom Network with Race Chaser with willm in Alaska and Delta.
Speaker 1Works and thank you, thank you, thank you for it.
Because if you're not going to promote yourself, you're gone.
Speaker 3Yeah we forgot.
Speaker 2I'll kill myself.
I will show yourself myself.
Speaker 1Right yere, hell yourself on vertical video.
Speaker 2Well, then they can edit it.
It's gotta be live.
Speaker 3Okay, everyone come to precinct this Saturday.
Speaker 2I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1I'm gonna kill myself a fat slot.
Speaker 3I'm gonna call myself that.
Speaker 1Slast Manila Ludan is performing nowhere.
What so your score out of a thousand doves is.
Speaker 3I'm gonna go nine hundred and fifteen doves.
Speaker 2I agree, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3I felt like that was a really amazing performance.
Confident, fun, put a lot, even put a lot of personality in those answers.
Speaker 2I almost hit a girl on the way here too.
Speaker 3That's true.
And I was almost with you.
Speaker 2I was.
I was rolling down my window to screen faggot at you out the window, and this girl walks out of the building, doesn't look left, just starts to walk into the street, and I was like.
Speaker 3Oh, so this building we're in sometimes has like casting calls, like I've been in this building before when everyone is six foot three and ten pounds, and.
Speaker 2Why is it that they like a model?
Because I used to live in New York and I would be like in casting rooms and stuff, the models come in and they've never looked scarier, Like they look like they were at the Eagle until two o'clock in the morning.
But then their body is like no, they just look like I know, have to be like sculpted out.
Yeah, but it's like.
Speaker 1You have to look like an alien.
And then the camera it's like how the camera adds ten pounds?
Speaker 2It also like does what.
Speaker 1Add you have to look like?
Even crazier in real life, and then the camera makes you look slightly more normal if you're like alien looking, like if you're on your tailor Joy I feel like if you met her in her life, you'd probably be like, ah.
Speaker 2But then sometimes that's the opposite, where you like see an actor and you're like they're gorgeous, and you see him in person and you're like, they're magnificent.
Camera doesn't even pick up their beauty.
That's true.
Speaker 3No, that's true.
Speaker 1That's had that experience with Olivia Wilde.
Speaker 3I had experience with Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1Really even post sorry no, this was.
Speaker 3Like ten years ago.
Speaker 2Almost what his face looks insane.
I just saw a picture.
Yeah, what are they?
Why are they all plumping up?
Speaker 1And that household, you know, the two of them get together, they say, we have sixteen procedures today, we'll split them.
They say, let's get childcare because it's going to be two full days.
Speaker 2What mommy and daddy are leaving.
Speaker 3And because as a man in Hollywood, it's one of the great luxuries is that you're like sort of allowed to almost age, especially.
Speaker 1Ryan Gosling, who could have aged just for like a rugged.
Speaker 3Yeah, he could be in Yellowstone right now.
Speaker 1Or it's like when you think about like Ethan Hawk or Kevin Bacon, like they age into like just like you know, kind of like slightly gray hair, rugged, like flannel, living on a farm, holding a goat.
Speaker 2It's like Timothy all of that.
Oh my god, Yeah, he did it perfect.
I mean, there's of course botox on a love but he's not like, of course he's not a farmer skin, but he's not like plumping up his cheeks like the chipmunk cheeks is crazy.
Speaker 3It's crazy.
No, it's not appealing.
I don't know who's doing we're going to look back on the era.
Speaker 2They should just be doing like the I mean I have some friends that like, just get the face lift at forty, Well.
Speaker 1That's what you have to do, and then you.
Speaker 2Like age back down to fifty and then you do it again at sixty.
But he looks like he did filler and like a bunch of crazy shit.
Speaker 1Here's a lot of yes men, a lot of yes men, a lot of yes men.
Speaker 3He doesn't have a good therapist.
His therapist is like, Ryan, you are diva.
If you want to get that face plumping, well he gets.
Speaker 2He goes to the line for therapy.
Speaker 1He goes to the line for therapy.
He says, it's cheap and I get to get my hair cut.
Speaker 2Yeah, I get to look at my new face the whole time.
I did.
Speaker 1Wow, he's running his lines for Barbie.
Speaker 2He was.
I hated him in that movie.
Speaker 1Oh, I'll say this.
Ken is not forty years old.
Okay, Ken is not forty years old.
Speaker 2It should have all been like.
Speaker 1It should have been like Hollywood.
Yeah, why am I looking at great?
He did great work.
He's a great actor, a titan in our industry.
Why is he playing Ken?
Ken should be twenty seven and it should be like a new twink they found that kind of looks like Ken, like honestly kind of maybe like it could be a discovery of like someone who did porn and now this is their film debut.
Speaker 2Barbie would never have that with them.
They're not Wicked.
They're not putting their name on porn stars.
Speaker 3Who's a porn star in Wicked?
Speaker 2Well, on the original Wicked, barbiees the website on the back was Wicked dot com, which is actually a porn They had to rip all the dolls off the shelves.
So if you have one of those, it's worth a lot of money.
Speaker 3Oh, I had no idea.
Yeah, should get into our topic like Wicked.
Speaker 2Nah, yeah, what's the question?
Speaker 1There is no such thing as like you're not liking it.
We're in it.
This podcast recording is part of Wicked.
Speaker 3Well, it's like do you like America?
Like it's like that's not really the question.
It's like like like you're just you exist within it and you like can choose how you want to deal with that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
It's like when people are like during Thanksgiving, they're like Thanksgiving actually has really like violent history, Like no, I know, but where's the turkey?
Speaker 3Can we have some drinks and like talk?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Yeah, the game is on, so how about you shut the hell up?
Speaker 3Well, there needs to be we need to we need to have like a like like a work like complete, like we understand the history complete because I'm like, we keep rehashing.
Speaker 2You know, you're so right, slavery, We get it complete.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, no, we're just saying make textbooks less.
Whoa.
Speaker 3It's just it reminds me of like honestly, millennials speak of being like obviously what I'm saying isn't perfect.
Obviously, and it's like, Okay, if it's so obvious, maybe you don't have to say it right exactly.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I love when straight guys learn It's like a straight I will learn about the phrase women and fems or something, and then you'll have like just a straight guy being like, these are my favorite bands that are mostly women in non binary folks, You're like, okay, you can just say paramore.
Speaker 2Let's get into our top.
Speaker 1Okay, so meet Paul.
Speaker 3What is your straight topic today and what is straight about it?
Speaker 2Motorcycle culture?
Speaker 3Motorcycle culture.
Yes, someone that spends a long time in the Eagle, I find that to be that sort of interesting.
Speaker 1I know someone who has seen the cover of Lady God I was born this way.
I also find it to be interesting.
Speaker 2Oh okay, well, let's get into it.
I have a motorcycle.
You do work.
Yes, there's a very famous clip of me being called trans while riding it at the opening of the Pride Parade.
Speaker 3I've seen this clip in the years past.
Speaker 4We've known this contingent as dikes on bikes, But a few years ago you changed.
Speaker 2That, didn't you.
Speaker 4Yes, Because when we started, our rights started being taken away from us.
We needed to start really fighting for our rights.
So I felt we shouldn't separate the men from the women anymore.
Speaker 2And actually, it's not for.
Speaker 4Me to decide to stay who is a man and a woman.
So I switched the name from Dikes on Bikes to Motorcycle Contingent for Equality.
We still are Dikes on Bikes, but we still are men, we still are women, We're still trends, we are everything under this umbrella title.
Speaker 1But this year also we.
Speaker 4Want to give focus to our trans community because they are really being targeted.
So I want to give focus to our trans members because they really are heart and soul.
All right, Okay, with that said, h riders, start your engines.
Speaker 1My opinion, you actually explained it.
Speaker 3Can you explain the club.
Speaker 2I'm on ABC News and the leader of Dykes on Bikes says, we're here to support our trans commune and then pointing to yestures over at me and I'm waving and I'm like, but I'm not trans, and uh, that's the clip and it's really embarrassing.
Speaker 1But you're just in drag.
Speaker 2I'm in full drag on my motorcycle to open the parade, and she meant to say drag queen.
Yeah, and all day while we were planning it, she was saying drag queen.
And then there was a lot of trans motorcyclists behind me, but I was leading it because it was like when drag queens were under the most attack, like four or five years ago.
Speaker 1Now everything's fine.
Speaker 2Yeah, No, drag queens are great.
I mean, should we ban all drag queens?
Absolutely, I'm tired of putting on wigs.
You can barely wear a heel fifteen.
Speaker 1And you're a lot being Congress for this.
Ye you're saying no more.
Speaker 2I know a lot of the girls are in there fighting for it.
I'm saying, let's kill brunch.
Let's end in a twelve o'clock brunch.
Brunches at two thirty.
That's what time they should start at.
Sorry, I'm not completely that's a New York brunch is two o'clock, la, They're like eleven in the morning.
Speaker 1They he's done a hike and gone to the gym.
Speaker 2It's I'm still drunk from the night before.
Speaker 3I finished drinking at eight pm.
Speaker 2I'm on the motorcycle all the way here.
Speaker 1Sorry, the motorcycle into Okay, so you own a motorcycle.
Speaker 2I own a motorcycle and I'm trying to fix it up right now.
I've like changed the brakes on it and done all this stuff.
I'm so mad.
Speaker 3This is so different than what I could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2To keep going okay, but I love fixing things and like it's fun.
Like I have a sewing machine and I know how to fix it too, but I was like, this is just a bigger sewing machine, except for it could kill you.
So I like, I hate taking it to the shop because I feel like I have to be like overly masculine when I'm in there.
And then when I had bought my first motorcycle, it was like me and my exo together and I always be like, well, my boyfriend was riding it and he said he heard this, and it would be like on their face.
And all I really want is like YouTube tutorials from a queen.
All I'm getting is like guys being like, so you take it off here and you do this, and I want like, hey, sister, if you don't put your chain on right, you're gonna fucking die bit or like don't put oil in the whatever, It's gonna end up messier than a Chipotle bowl on a Tuesday night, like I just want gay ship.
Speaker 3I fully assume you mean you want James Charles being like, hey dives, so like, get ready with me while I fix my motorcycle.
Speaker 2Ye, but it's like using the grease or like show me how to do it without it being like so overly masculine.
And I know there are gay motorcycle leaves here of course, and the Eagle for example.
Speaker 1Sorry, but some bikes your your friends.
Speaker 2Even so yeah, loved the Dykes, love that kind of thing, but even those, it's like it feels so masculine.
I want Queen's.
Speaker 1Well that's about game strait.
It's more about mask and fen like you're wanting like Queenie.
Speaker 2I think it's the straight culture that they're trying to like squeeze themselves into instead of being like we're gay.
So what if I want to put a thirty inch ponytail on my helmet when I whip it when I'm riding it, like I want it to be so faggy And I just can't find that because I read my motorcycle in full drag.
It's been wonderful, but the looks are like it's it's they're like, what do we what's that There's so many things to add up.
Hairy body, lady face, lady face, motorcycle.
Like, I'm just it shouldn't be so confusing.
I want to see like twinks.
Speaker 1Totally yeah, wearing like like the rainbow Smirnoff tank, not Smirnoff absolutely absolute tank.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, So I like the and and Deke Some bikes.
Speaker 2You know, we obviously love Deke Some Bikes.
Speaker 1To me, my first pride ever I was I found myself at the Dike some Bikes March and I was the only one not a dike and not on a bike.
It was kind of one of those iconic experiences of my life.
So we love deck Some bikes.
But I do love the idea of just like Hohorror twinks.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, Harley's I've never seen it.
Yeah, long.
Speaker 1His name is Tory.
Speaker 2I mean, you're supposed to be in full leather for your protection, but who cares.
Speaker 1We're there's no leather.
It's it's literally like American apparel, mesh American apparel, cut off shorts and like a little rainbow armband that says CHROMATICA tour.
Speaker 2Just came to me because I was like, I had taken my bike out.
I was testing the brakes and I was like, well, I'll swing by the Eagle because I know it's like biker day or whatever.
And I showed up in my little short shorts on my motorcycle on like a shirt.
They're all looking at me like I was crazy because they were in like full leather chaps and all this stuff.
Yeah, to go ride around in Los Angeles in the summer, totally.
Speaker 3So this is what does confuse me.
So like, practically, are you supposed to wear leather when you ride a bike or is that just decord.
Speaker 2You're supposed to like keep all of your I mean it's you don't.
You can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 3Baby, you can hear whatever you want.
Speaker 2You can wear whatever you want.
It's in case of an accident, you could, like if you fall off the bike, you can get road rash and stuff by skidding on the cement.
So it's more like, but that's a baby that's thinking in the future.
I'm not looking to have an accident.
Maybe a dressed like a slat and ride my bike.
Speaker 3Well, I'm also like, well, aren't we dealing with like bigger issues If I get into a motorcycle accident, Like, aren't my limbs falling off?
I don't really care.
Speaker 2If they're like yeah, but you're looking cunt.
You're like the hospital and they're like Russia and all the gay nurses now what.
Speaker 3It was like the chaps hold stop if from happening.
Speaker 2I'm like, well, you know, I mean, most accidents I think on a motorcycle aren't like lethal.
I think, oh, that's nice.
You're mostly just kind of riding around a neighborhood and someone you heard it here first, motorcycles pretty safe?
Yeah, okay, hey, non lethal.
Speaker 1It's fascinating.
Okay, I'm in motorcycles versus cars, you're I I obviously motorcycles are straight in the sense that there's something very like lone rider, lone wolf about it, Like there's no sense of a yeah, no sense of on the back exactly.
That's the thing.
Either either you have a like a hot woman behind you and then that's like super cool because she's like holding your strong torso and you're like going to you know, the big the big event, or.
Speaker 3You're thinking of that episode of sex.
Speaker 1So basically there's one way to look at it, where like a motorcycle is like lone Wolf, straight Eye, and a car is like dumb cuck.
But there's also the other way.
Car is family values.
It is like having the kids in the back.
It's having a baby seat.
And motorcycle is like you're you're on your own, you're rejecting the family structure.
You're also there's something about how like decked out it can be that's very gay, like you're adding your little personality to it.
Yeah, you know, a helmet on.
It's anti surveillance because people can't see your face look at you go, you take it off, you have it here suddenly or Drew Barymore and Charlie's Angel.
So it's like it is what you make of it.
Like a motorcycle is kind of a blank a blank slate, and you can make it again, you can.
It's straight.
Speaker 3But I think what you're describing is like the myth of the motorcycle rather than like what actually happens on a motor.
Speaker 2Going from A to B, because.
Speaker 3Like the myth of a motorcycle is so LGBTQ plus, but then like in practice it's it's not at all.
And I wish like that myth.
All I've ever want is to take a helmet off, whip my hair around.
But that you take the helmet off, you look bad.
Speaker 2Yeah, your hair is a mass.
Speaker 3You look horrible.
Speaker 1Yeah you have so.
Speaker 2Then the other thing is they'll put a bandana on so that protects their hair.
But then you're walking around with a bandana on your head.
And now who are you serving?
Are you flagging?
What colors should I wear?
It's too many options.
Speaker 3It's too many options.
Speaker 2And also one time a little twin did ask to get on the back of my bike and I literally said, I'm not gay.
So maybe this is a personal.
Speaker 3Interesting wow interesting?
So you you know, maybe it's because you have so many spaces to be comfortable being gay in your life that you say not here, not on the.
Speaker 2Bike, not here, and not on the bike, not on the bike shop.
Speaker 3When my ass is on this seat, I'm fucking I'm a man.
Speaker 2Don't look at my thong.
I'm a dude up here.
Speaker 3Wow, And you can't.
You can't sit behind me unless you are my little brother or you have a gun.
Speaker 2A little brother.
Get out of here with that.
Wow.
What are you up to?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1What's going on?
What are you talking about in therapy?
Speaker 3Nothing?
Speaker 2I just think that motorcycles could be gayer and it's not that.
Speaker 1Okay, so how.
Speaker 2Rainbow period.
Speaker 3Literally this is actually an interesting point.
Speaker 2Get But I think that there's a lot of people it's like, you know, jeep culture, like hand out ducks to each other and it's like this whole thing and it doesn't seem weird.
And men can do it to men.
Men do it to men all the time.
Yeah, but no, not like that.
I'm just giving the dogs.
So but I think on motorcycle culture, it's more about, like you're saying, being like a lone wolf and like stuck in your ways and like you and your motorcycle gang all wear matching vests.
But that's about it.
You don't like give each other trinket.
Speaker 1That's true.
Motorcycle gang does give it a sense of community.
And it is true that when you see like a big like a sort of what is the word flotilla motorcycle.
Speaker 2What do you call that?
Speaker 3I don't know, a school of.
Speaker 1Motorcycles, school of motorcycles.
You know, you're like, okay, wow, you guys really did find murder.
Maybe what you're craving and sorry to saycmanalyze you is like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3You have, you have plenty about fats.
Speaker 1Let us sold out.
Speaker 2Sorry, it is every third Friday.
Speaker 1Let us hold out.
Speaker 2Well let's say Japan.
Okay, that's fine.
Yeah, it's an island country.
Speaker 1So I think what you're pointing to is like so much.
Speaker 2That's a really good time too.
So what happens is it's a drag show.
And then at the end that's what we call a sexy food eating competition, where all the food is encased in jello and it doesn't have to be eaten, but you do have to fuck it.
I did want to sold that food.
Yeah, so what kind of food am I fucking?
So?
Chocolate cake is a big favorite.
That was my mom was like, don't get chocolate gi vanilla next time because it looks like poop.
Yeah yeah, but we do it.
We do like three pounds of shrimp, oh cooked tail on and then.
Speaker 1We think it for clarifying.
Speaker 2Yeah, well I just want them to like have something docktail sauce.
Yeah, it's it's in the top layer of the blood.
Speaker 1Is so much more tasteful than poop.
Speaker 2And then well someone did put a shrimp up there, but well I'm not really that impressed.
It's not big.
Speaker 3Okay, I will say I am impressed because it's kind of soft is.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2And then someone did do a hot dog up there butt and then when they shot it out at the audience, a little chili came out with it, which was crazy so gross.
Speaker 1I'm going to say that.
Speaker 3Nasty thing.
Speaker 1I'm ringing the nasty alarm.
Speaker 2So sorry, what were you saying about?
Speaker 1Basically motors?
So much of game motorcycle culture is like ironically adopting straight motorcycle culture.
That's what I hate, right, So and I and I'm now getting like what your sort of desire is, which is you on homegrown gay motorcycle culture, Like rather than taking these signifiers like references from you know, Harley Davidson Rugged guys and being like, what if we did this but with that, if we did this but with leather daddies, which of course we love.
What if we like came up with our own set of visual signifiers for motorcycles, Like what if it was just like.
Speaker 3I think it starts with media.
I think we need a movie franchise that is like gay motorcyclists and then they're like pop.
Speaker 2Stars, you know, we need like they this is what they did need.
Speaker 1We need, like we need the spirit of roller Derby, but for motorcycles.
You know how roller Derby is just like they really did did the thing.
They did the thing, like they created a new thing, They created a new vibe, and it's like each other girls beating each other up.
But they're all like they have like funny names, and they have little patches on their vests, and they're like half lesbians and half straight but also lesbians, and and it's like they actually.
Speaker 2Kind of out of locker room.
It's none of our, none of our.
Speaker 1And I'm not going to be there.
So I do think we need that for the motorcycles.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, so I'm thinking movie franchise game.
I mean, honestly, we could just take the Charlie's Angels thing and make it three twins or one twink, one bear, one I don't know.
Speaker 1One twink, one bear, and one like one herd, like one gay nerd with like oh yeah, one Sam.
Speaker 2One Sam right, smart guy, just right in mid Okay.
Speaker 3I think that sounds really beautiful and I can't I think the original soundtrack will be amazing.
Charlie is actually doing it.
Speaker 2I heard I heard about that Yeah, it's actually huge because she's going from Withering Heights to this.
Speaker 3Yeah, because Wuthering Heights is like her, like she's going all So expectations are low.
Speaker 1Well, you know that the trailer is going to be a room.
Speaker 2Room might be too gay?
Wait hold on, so room room.
But it's like one of those things where they take the song and make it spooky.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, Children's and Squire and you see the twins and the Bear getting into a big accident on their motorcycle.
Speaker 2Let's ride, yes, and then mustache smart guy comes in weaving through traffic real.
Speaker 3Fast not and doesn't that Maybe I'm trying to think of, like what sort of violence they commit?
Speaker 1Yeah, because they have to commit violence obviously that's the ultimate sign of empowerment.
Speaker 2So we're after like, is it like Twink Bear Sam, what violence do they commit in the big movie?
Speaker 3Like what's their weapon?
Like if they're like mot motorcycles.
Speaker 2They're like ninja turtles, the you should have their own way exactly.
Speaker 1You're a whip okay whip, and.
Speaker 2You're always in a cat suit and it's so crazy that I don't.
Speaker 1Know if that's the Twink has a laptop in his coating cyber attacks and cyber bullying.
And then the bear.
Speaker 2Whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 1The bear has a gun.
Speaker 3Yes, the bear has a gun.
Speaker 1I have a gun.
Speaker 3Oh my god, my god, oh my god, a gun and a cowboy hat.
No, then we're going back.
Speaker 1You have a gun toutch it?
Would you say your pro gun violence?
Speaker 3Uh?
Speaker 2Not the violence, but definitely pro like I don't know having one totally.
I want to gun so bad.
We've been over this.
Speaker 3Remind me.
Speaker 2I want a gun so bad just as an accessory.
Yeah, I don't think i'd buy the bullets.
Okay.
Good, that's actually like county guns and like there's one that's pink and glittery.
Okay.
So I work over in North Hollywood, so it's right next to Burbank and that's where all the gun stores are.
So I get the itch every now and then and then instead just get impanadus next door.
Yeah, calm myself down.
Speaker 1It's sort of a gun for your day.
Speaker 2So the bear has a gun, and I think the end is they all just shoot off the top of a building.
So it's like very like you don't know if they liver or eye and their bikes have parachutes on them and they all hold hands on the way down.
I mean bike, wait, bike with a paarachute.
Speaker 1That's like genuinely like unique original imagery, Like that's on the poster, like people, you know what I mean, Like I just did it.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think it's been done.
Speaker 2I think it has been done.
Speaker 3And he actually did the stunt, which I think is so crazy.
Speaker 1Okay, so you're just literally like ripping off Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3We're plagiarizing.
Speaker 2Oh cool, just a little wow.
But I thought you were on my side from him.
Speaker 1What if it's the three motorcycles holding each other's hands, and then there's and then they're in a hot air balloon on the I'm trying to find unique industry.
Speaker 2Here's what happens.
The big stunt is that they actually have to go into orbit and save Katy Perry.
So they're like taking one of those balloons right up to the edge and then they ride their motorcycles into space.
Speaker 1So it's really get on the motorcycles in space and then okay, and and they and then it's Katie Perry's come back.
Speaker 3That would be nice.
Speaker 1Section talk about slience fiction, which is to fireworks to fireworks work.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Have you met Katy Perry?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 3Yeah, wait, you were in the music video.
Speaker 2I was in one of her music videos for a split second, and then I met her at some like celebrity birthday party.
What was she like in the music video?
I think that was when she was in her dark place.
Speaker 1Oh so.
Speaker 2Well, it was no remember like short blonde hair was Swiss, Swish, Swish Swish.
That's a great song, to be honest, it was.
Yeah, it was so fun to be a part of.
If you squit really hard, you can see me in the background as a cheerleader and one portion of it.
And she was like really friendly.
But in between takes, I think she was doing like small animal therapy and they would like wrap her in a blanket and she would lay down.
They would just put a dog on her and she would sit there until they were like, okay, Katie, we need you, and then someone would come and take the dog and she'd stand up like a robot.
It was kind of weird, But then she did come over and say hi to all of us, and she was really sweet.
And then at the birthday party I saw her at I mean, I'm not even supposed to talk about but I think she was really drunk.
Speaker 1Oh, I mean that's more relatable than doing small dog therapy in the middle of your shoot.
Speaker 2I've seen celebrities do weirder things.
Speaker 1What's the weirdest thing you've seen a celebrity do?
Yeah, you don't have to say who, or we can bleep the name, yeah, or or if you don't want to, if you're chea chicken.
Speaker 3If you're scared.
Speaker 2At one event, there was a celebrity whose husband literally would not let her speak to people, and that was weird to me.
Speaker 1That is weird.
Speaker 2And then she like took her shoes off and he yelled at her, and that was like, literally like okay, but no one else.
Speaker 1Who there's and he's he's famous too, or he's well, we're her feet stank, nasty, they were beautiful.
Speaker 3Oh, that's worse.
Speaker 2But it was really strange, and I was like, Oh, I guess everything about them is kind of true.
Speaker 3The fuck you'll have.
Speaker 1To tell her?
Speaker 2Is it Amy Schumer?
It was Amy Schumer and her husband really tough, Oh tall chef, let's if.
I was like, yeah, no, we have four minutes.
Who cares take away?
It's big dipper and some gay porn star.
Speaker 3I thought it was second.
Speaker 1That's but if the first one goes over, then you have Bruce Valanchi trible.
Speaker 2I will not let it go over.
Can I say something?
He's a gay porn star.
What does he gotta talk about his ball?
Speaker 3Probably?
Speaker 2I've seen his work.
I'm not impressed.
Speaker 3Was this a dipper booking?
Speaker 2Yes?
Who do you think would book a gay porn I don't know.
You guys have like obsessed with sex.
He throws a sex party.
Have you been?
Speaker 3No?
Did you get that invite?
Speaker 2It's the way you said no makes me feel like you did go.
Speaker 3No, I haven't been.
I haven't been.
Speaker 2He throws it.
He throws a sex party.
Drain your nut.
Speaker 1That's fun, very literal.
Speaker 3It's a bit literal.
Speaker 1It's no, you know what is more literal?
Drain your nut or fat slot?
Speaker 2Do you think that's like it could really be any that's true?
I mean, is the fat slot so you know you're getting it?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1Or yeah it's like okay the host, or it's like the suggestion for how to present yourself, or it's like the crowd.
Speaker 2Yeah, it could be the girls do come slutty.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Drain your nut is kind of like you.
Speaker 2The nuts.
Speaker 3This is sometimes when sex talk gets like very literal, it grosses me out, like maybe not literal or like it like it can become unsexy and like removed from a body, like drain your nut is kind of like that.
And when do you remember people were saying this is so gross, sorry to everyone in the recording.
Your listeners are too smart for this.
Do you remember people were saying, like cummies, Oh, I hate it.
Speaker 1But that's cute.
That's different than literal cummies is.
Speaker 3But it was like I gotta go out and get my cumming.
Speaker 2That is forgotten, like a message from someone where they're being so forward like yeah, where they're like come in me, and you're just like whatever happened to hide?
Speaker 1And you're also like you're like, yeah, I know that's where it's we know, like.
Speaker 2That's kind of like also it's like Thanksgiving.
We don't need to say exactly, we don't need to we need to bring it up.
We know, we know we're going to.
Speaker 3Commit some acts.
Yeah, some unspeakable.
Speaker 1Acts, unspeakable acts, and let's let's have it stay that way.
Speaker 3Yeah, you can't speak about the unspeakable.
Speaker 2Acts and speak about the unspeakable as.
Speaker 3So no, I haven't been invited to Dipper's sex party.
Speaker 2I'll make sure you get on that.
Speaker 3Thank you?
Speaker 2Is it you ever?
He does want in New York too?
Speaker 1Isn't that his house perfect?
Speaker 2No, it's like in a warehouse.
Speaker 3So you you say that he is the one that brings all the sex people on because you have like porn stars on with somebody.
Speaker 2Anytime we have a porn star on, it's always being like, these guys are so mad?
Who cares?
Speaker 1And it's like, oh, no, okay, what's your dream guest?
Speaker 2Oprah Winfrey?
Speaker 1What would you say to her?
Speaker 2I'd be like, do I get a car?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Because you know what I would say to her.
Speaker 2Say to her?
Speaker 1I would say, so, what's the deal with all these books you're promoting lately?
Because they are all evil?
Speaker 3Here's what I say.
I'd say, Oprah, I have a question that everyone's been asking top or Bottle.
Speaker 2When you do your harvest videos, are you really pulling those plants?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 2Right?
She's like, this is my harvest And I was like, yeas are so clean.
Speaker 1So completely.
They're manicured to the gods, and their nails match your glasses.
Speaker 2Were stedman you know, if she's on property with like five houses and he lives in his own house, like she doesn't see him anymore.
Speaker 3I like in America, I know he really won.
Speaker 1It's so crazy and I'm honestly so happy for him, genuinely.
Yeah.
Well, our thoughts go out to Oprah.
Speaker 3Our thoughts about to Oprah and Steadman and Kale and everyone in the family.
Speaker 1And one day Oprah will read a book that isn't by a murderous white mom who discovered a form of therapy that is also being funded by the deep state of It's crazy, like it.
Speaker 2Really, I know she's not okay because she's like always hanging out with Jeff Bezos and that's well, that's part of it too.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like and then Chris Jenner is like the other node in this kind of map.
Speaker 2Now already at Jeff Bezos's house.
That's insane.
It's like part of the oligarchy.
Speaker 1Chris Jenner, she's like as much a part of it as you know, Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3That's tough.
Speaker 2It's tough stuff.
Anyway, let's to a final segment.
Speaker 3Okay, Yeah, I'm like like enough, Okay.
Speaker 2Our final segment want us to have fun I do.
It's just like a therapist.
You wanted to keep me a secret from you.
Speaker 3Sometimes I'm like, you know what that thing where you're like when I say like, let's wrap it up, then it's impossible for me to get back into it.
No I know, Oh sorry, hey, let's wrap it up, Sam, And it's like it's I'm I wish I could bounce back, but it's like in my mind already it's.
Speaker 1Called cummies.
Speaker 3And we share what you get to your cummies?
Ye, what got your cummies?
Oh that's the most disgusting thing.
I can't ever.
I hate it.
One time on stage, I tried to be like, you guys know how gay guys are saying commies now?
And everyone was like no, They're like, we don't know about this.
Speaker 2And I was like they want a gay audience.
Speaker 3No, it was not a gay audience.
And I and everyone they were mad at me.
They were like, why did you make us learn about cummies?
People?
Speaker 2Straight people have.
Speaker 1Like accepted gay people, and they don't like it when you remind them there are things they haven't excepted.
Speaker 3Well.
Speaker 2So here's the worst thing is the one time I was opening for Nicole Buyer at the improv and I decided to like, I don't know, I felt like some people in fans I know, but I didn't really.
It just wasn't everyone.
And so I started talking about cruising and they didn't know, and so then I had to explain cruising.
And then I had to explain the story about how one time I was cruising and I was wearing like a I was in drag and I was like in a dirty baby diaper because the guy cruised me from the from fu Bar.
I was coming out of a gig and he was like, get in.
Speaker 3The car and I was like, oh wow.
Speaker 2And so I had to tell that story and it was like it was like that it was coming us to a straight audience.
There are so many layers.
Speaker 1So powerful to like be there and just like Alienator room full of straight people.
You're like, that's right, I have a more interesting life than you do.
Speaker 2Well, then I went crazy and I said the R word.
Speaker 1Really you got an actually won the man?
Speaker 2Yeah.
They're like, yeah, let's.
Speaker 3Use it again.
I love this one.
Speaker 2It was just awful.
It was so bad.
Speaker 3That's tough.
Speaker 2So it was this last segment we've were talking about what are these springs?
Speaker 1So those are Web awards.
Speaker 3Don't worry, they're not ours.
Not ours we never won, so our finals.
Like what it was called shout outs, and in the segment we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out and shout out anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas.
Imagine in twousand and one you're at TRL shouting out to your squad back home, but about anything you like, I can go, oh, please, what's up?
Speaker 1Freaks on measures.
I want to give a shout out to ordering room service at the hotel.
This is something that at some point I stopped doing.
I don't know why.
I guess because room service is often disgusting, and I like the idea of actually like leaving and going to a place and meeting friends and going to a normal restaurant.
But there is nothing more glamorous than having your little RoboN ordering room service.
The number does not count, cash does not count.
You can order up to one hundred dollars and it actually doesn't really count because you've put it on the room and you can even tip like fifty percent.
You're like, oh, of course, I basically hear for a big conference, so order room service, have your little robe on, eat it in your hotel, than be completely disgusting and watch like a true crime documentary or something.
Thank me later, ladies, you're gonna love it.
Speaker 3WHOA, Okay, what's up freaks, losers and perverts around the globe?
I want to give a shout out to the specific intelligentsia that is a block and a half away from our recording studio in Hollywood, California.
Whenever we do a recording, I go to this intelligentsia.
I get here fifteen minutes early and I walk on over there.
I get a coffee, and everyone there I don't know.
I feel like they've never had the same employee twice, but they always have some LGBTQ plus twenty three year old who is doing something that is not making coffee.
And I'm like, they make them do that too.
I say this, Maarisa also has to wash the windows.
Now I've seen everything this intelligency that's.
Speaker 2So terrible, it's literally crazy.
I should not be the jo.
Speaker 3When the barista today put down the wet wipes and walked over to the counter to say, do you know what you want?
I said, this is crazy.
Speaker 2I want you to wash your hands before you touch my coffee.
Speaker 3I said, this is I feel so I feel like a father to you.
And I love coming here and seeing some of the most insane people you can find in the world.
Sitting in the boots and drinking a coffee and screaming and being upset about who knows what.
It makes me feel like La is a real city and that one day you know we're all going to be a crazy person screaming an intelligencia xoxo Sam.
Speaker 1What up?
Speaker 2Bitches?
Hey, I want to give a shout out to ambientb house that don't charge extra to use their pool.
You, lily say, well, pussy bitch, I had a wonderful time.
I thought it was going to be an extra eighty to one hundred dollars to heat up that pool, and you send me a message and said go ahead, I don't care.
I hated that pull up to ninety to creez it's crazy.
Your gas bill is gonna be nuts.
But I love you for it.
Jen, you get your big one on that one.
And definitely we'left all the towels clean too.
We left it cleaner than you left it.
I think you might have mice.
Speaker 1Jen.
Speaker 3Love you, Baby, that is incredible.
It's incredible.
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