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Fusaka, ETFs and Fed Shifts: The Perfect Storm for Crypto Rallies
Episode Transcript
Welcome to the crypto news rundown.
If you've been anywhere near the charts lately, you know it has just been an absolutely wild period of volatility.
Speaker 2It's been a real rollercoaster.
Speaker 1Yeah.
I mean, Bitcoin hits an all time high, then it plunges nearly thirty five percent, and then it just seems to rebound almost as quickly exactly.
Speaker 2But I think underneath all that market noise, all that day to day chaos, there's a massive shift happening.
It feels almost irreversible.
At this point.
Speaker 1You're talking about institutional capital.
Speaker 2Institutional capital is just flooding into the digital asset space, and it's forcing everything else to adapt at well, at lightspeed, the infrastructure, the regulations.
Speaker 1All of it, and that institutionalization.
That's really the central theme we want to dig into today.
We're going to start by setting the global macro context, because at the end of the day, what the FED decides to do still dictates the risk appetite for the entire market.
Speaker 2It really does.
From there, we'll move into the major asset specific news.
We'll look deep into Ethereum's critical Fusaka infrastructure upgrade, which just went live.
We'll talk about bitcoin's really volatile search for utility, you know, beyond just being digital gold.
And then of course the institutional surge around XRP and stable coins, and we.
Speaker 1Have to finish by looking at the other side of that coin, the rising security risks and the latest regulatory enforcement actions that are shaping this whole landscape.
Speaker 2It's a critical moment for sure.
But before we jump into any of that, we have to start with our disclaimer.
It's absolutely essential, of course, so just to be super clear for everyone listening, this discussion is strictly for informational and educational purposes.
Speaker 1That's it, nothing more.
Speaker 2It is not and it should not be taken as financial advice, investment advice, or any kind of trading advice.
Speaker 1And we have to say cryptocurrencies are highly volatile.
They are speculative assets.
Speaker 2Extremely volatile.
Investing in them inherently carries significant risks, I mean, including the potential loss of all of your capital.
So we strongly, strongly advise you conduct your own research, do your own research, dyor before you ever make an investment decision.
Speaker 1All right, with that necessary context set, let's look at that big picture, because the crypto market is really operating under the shadow of the Federal Reserve right now.
Speaker 2It always is to some.
Speaker 1Extent, right And the main story among crypto bowls has been pretty straightforward for a while now.
It's been you know, FED rate cuts are coming.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's the hope.
Speaker 1And that should drive down bond yields, weaken the dollar, and just create this perfect environment for risk assets like bitcoin and ethereum to well to run.
Speaker 2And that narrative has certainly fueled a lot of the recent optimism.
It probably contributed a lot to the recent price action we saw, you know, both the highs and the pretty sharp corrections that followed.
Speaker 1So what are the markets actually pricing in right now?
Is it still just hope?
Speaker 2Well, it's getting pretty concrete.
The market is currently pricing in an eighty nine percent chance of a rate cut in December.
Speaker 1Eighty nine percent.
That's a huge, huge swing.
Speaker 2It's a massive swing from the really cautious outlook we saw just earlier this year.
The general consensus now is that the Fed is going to kick off an easing cycle.
They'll cut rates by twenty five basis points on December tenth.
Speaker 1And what range would that bring us to?
Speaker 2That would bring the range down to three and a half to three point seventy five percent.
And most people see this as just a continuation of an easing trend that many believe kind of quietly already started back in September.
Speaker 1And some of the big institutions are calling for even deeper cuts.
Speaker 2Right, Oh yeah, you're seeing major investment banks like Goldman Sachs for instance, projecting that rates could fall all the way down to three percent next year.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 2And this anticipated easing, which just means chipper money and you know, lower returns on traditional savings.
That is the structural fuel that risk assets need, crypto included.
When the guaranteed return from safe assets drops, investors are just forced to look for yield elsewhere, and digital assets are often a big beneficiary of that shift.
Speaker 1But here's the confusing part.
The bond market seems to be reading from a completely different script.
It does despite all this bullish talk about rate cuts, the ten year treasury yields, they're just stubbornly staying above four percent.
So why is that resistance so important for crypto inversers to watch?
What is it signaling?
Speaker 2It creates this this deep structural headwind that you just can't ignore no matter how much speculative froth.
There is in the crypto market a headwind.
How so well Analysts at Ing, for example, have specifically flagged the potential for a decisive breakout above four point one percent in that ten year yield, and that four point one percent level is kind of a tipping point both structurally and psychologically.
Speaker 1Okay, break that down structurally, What does a move past four point one percent really mean?
Speaker 2Structurally, it means the market has fully priced in the reality of the soaring national debt.
I mean, we're talking over thirty eight trillion.
Speaker 1Dollars now, an unbelievable number it.
Speaker 2Is, And it means the market is demanding a m much higher sustained premium to hold long term US debts.
So it's not just about inflation anymore.
Speaker 1So, it's about debt risk precisely.
Speaker 2If yields hard and structurally above that four point one percent level, it signals that the market views this massive US deficit spending as a permanent fixture that leads to what economists call physical dominance.
Speaker 1And a higher interest rate environment directly competes with risk assets.
Speaker 2It competes with everything.
It increases the cost of capital for corporate borrowing, for mortgages, and definitely for the speculative leverage we see in the crypto space.
If the tenure yield settles in above that level, it could weigh heavily on all risk assets, including crypto, well into twenty twenty six.
And that's regardless of what the FED does in the short term.
Speaker 1So it's the difference between just temporary volatility and a real structural recalibration of risk.
Speaker 2That's a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 1Yes, and speaking of liquidity, we saw a quiet but pretty significant action from the FED recently.
It might indicate just how delicate the banking system's equilibrium is right now, especially with that rising debt.
Speaker 2That's a crucial detail that a lot of people missed.
The FED recently executed a massive thirteen and a half billion dollar liquidity injection into the.
Speaker 1Banks thirteen and a half billion.
Speaker 2And what's really notable about that figure is that it's the second biggest liquidity blast, as they call it, since the peak of the COVID crisis.
Speaker 1So what does that signal?
Why do it so quietly?
Speaker 2Well, these large quiet injections, they usually happen through things like the reverse repo market.
They're designed to pump emergency cash into the banking system without all the fanfare, without causing a panic.
Right and while it's not directly aimed at crypto, what it signals is that policymakers are very actively managing banking liquidity to prevent things from freezing up.
It adds the sort of hidden layer of support to the financial system, and for the crypto world, it just reinforces the narrative that the traditional system is far from self regulating.
It strengthens the case for a non sovereign asset as a necessary safety valve.
Speaker 1That sets the stage perfectly to pivot to the institutional titan that everyone listens to.
Blackrock the eight hundred pound Gorilla exactly.
Their twenty twenty six investment outlook basically lays out a thesis for why crypto and specifically bitcoin, is becoming a necessity, not just some niche play anymore.
What's driving their surprisingly bullish view on BTC.
Speaker 2It's all about that sovereign debt and systemic fragility we were just talking about.
It's not about speculation for them anymore.
In their outlook, black Rock paints a well a decidedly barissed picture of US bonds and the overall US economy.
Speaker 1They point the finger directly at the national debt.
Speaker 2Directly at it.
They cite the soaring national debt, which again has officially passed thirty eight trillion dollars.
They see this fiscal fragility as the defining market outlook for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1It's just a mind boggling figure.
How do they connect that huge number directly to a reason to buy bitcoin?
Speaker 2Their thesis is very clear and very structural, argue that this rising federal debt will actually accelerate the adoption of bitcoin as the true rival to gold.
Speaker 1Arrival to gold.
Speaker 2Yes, in a world defined by monetary uncertainty and deficit spending, Bitcoin serves as the ultimate non sovereign hedge.
Gold is the traditional hedge, of course, but BTC offers something different, an immutable, decentralized, and mathematically capped supply.
So black Rock views BTC as a hedge against inflation, against uncertainty, and crucially against the failure of traditional hedges that are tied to the dollar.
Speaker 1This is such a monumental shift from just a few years ago.
I mean, this isn't some hedge fund manager on Twitter.
This is the world's largest asset manager building a core investment strategy around digital assets as a necessary component in a fragile economic world.
Speaker 2It's a total sea change, and their CEO, Larry Fink, he's reinforced this idea by describing tokenization as nothing less than the next generation of financial markets.
Speaker 1So this isn't just about launching a s BODYTF for them.
Speaker 2No, no, no, this is about a complete top down strategy to integrate digital assets into global finance.
They see this as the future rails of ownership and value transfer, and.
Speaker 1They're not just talking about bitcoin.
Their view on stable coins also signals this fundamental acceptance of the digital asset structure.
They're seeing them as a necessity, not a curiosity.
Speaker 2That's exactly where the rubber meets the road.
Black Rocks Global head of market Development Samara Cohen.
She recently stated that stable coins are no longer.
Speaker 1Niche, no longer niche.
Speaker 2And she explicitly called them the bridge between traditional finance and digital liquidity.
Now just think about what that means.
They see stable coins, these digital dollars as the crucial link that allows traditional institutions to access the speed and efficiency of digital ledgers without having to deal with the volatility of native tokens like BTC or ETH, so it's a way for.
Speaker 1Them to dip their toes in securely.
Speaker 2It's a crucial, modest, but meaningful step toward a fully tokenized financial system.
It means integrating stable coins into mainstream payment systems, cross border payments, and maybe even as local currency alternatives and emerging markets.
Speaker 1Before we move on from BlackRock's macro outlook, they also raised an interesting point of caution around AI, which has been the other major narrative driving markets and secking up huge amounts of capital.
Speaker 2Yes, their caution was a much needed reality check.
I think Blackrock was pretty wary about the speed of AI expansion, particularly in the US and Europe.
Speaker 1Why is that.
Speaker 2Well, AI spending is currently running at about three times historical levels, but they flagged that this incredible growth is running headlong into some very serious physical constraints.
Speaker 1Physical constraints like.
Speaker 2What specifically the amount of land and the sheer amount of energy supply required to power the massive data centers that AI infrastructure needs.
It's creating a real bottleneck.
Speaker 1So the digital world is hitting the limits of the physical world exactly.
Speaker 2The core insight is that the massive capital expenditure needed for AI growth.
We're talking and estimated five to eight trillion dollars by twenty thirty.
That has to eventually be justified by an economic return that far outpaces long term US growth.
If the AI ambitions outrun the ability of the physical world, you know, the land, the power grids to actually support them, then the investment thesis gets very, very tricky.
Speaker 1That's fascinating.
Okay, let's pivot now from the macro environment to a major infrastructure development that just happened in the Etherium ecosystem.
We have to talk about the Fusaka upgrade.
Speaker 2This is huge for Ethereum and it's all about scalability and robustness.
On Wednesday, Ethereum activated this highly anticipated Fusaka upgrade.
It's the second major code change of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1And you have to remember, right, the future of Ethereum is fundamentally as a settlement layer for all these much cheaper, much faster.
Speaker 2Layer too networks precisely, and Fusaka is designed to support exactly that vision.
Speaker 1So what problem is Fusaka actually solving for say the average user, more for the institutions that are building on Ethereum.
Speaker 2It directly addresses the massive influx of transaction batches coming from those two networks.
So think about polygon arbitrum optimism.
Speaker 1All the big ones, right.
Speaker 2These l twos, they bundle up thousands of user transactions and then they post them as these large compressed blobs of data onto the Ethereum main chain.
Speaker 1Okay, blobs of data.
Yeah.
Speaker 2And traditionally, every single validator on Ethereum had to download and verify the entire data blob, which, as you can imagine, created a significant computational load, required huge bandwidth, and resulted in high costs, especially as these blobs started getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1In this upgrade, which is centered around a system called PEERDAS, that changes this whole validation process to make it more efficient.
Speaker 2Precisely, PEERDAS stands for peer data Availability Sampling, and it's a really elegant technical solution.
Instead of demanding that every validator download the entire, say, one megabyte data blob, PEERDAS uses some sophisticated cryptographic techniques to do what.
It allows individual validators to check only small slices of that data blob, just a fraction of the total size the validator sample.
These slices randomly, and if enough of these random slices are verified successfully, the network just assumes the entire blob is available and valid.
Speaker 1Ah.
I see the implications there less computational load, less bandwidth needed, and therefore lower costs.
Speaker 2Correct, It radically reduces the computational load and the overall costs for both the validators and crucially for the layer two networks that are settling onto ethereum, and that cost saving gets passed down to you, the end user, in the form of cheaper Layer two transaction fees.
Speaker 1So in technical terms, I think I saw the phrase it lowers the operational threshold for node participation significantly.
Speaker 2That phrase is absolutely key.
Speaker 1Why is that so crucial for institutional.
Speaker 2Acceptance Because it's a profound decentralization play.
By making it cheaper and less computationally demanding to run a node, you widen the validator based dramatically the barrier to entry.
For what we call solo stakers, you know, people running nodes from home without joining massive centralized pools, that barrier dropped significantly.
Speaker 1And widening the base reduces concentration risk exactly.
Speaker 2Financial markets, especially the big institutional players who demand infrastructure stability.
They rely on resilient networks with no single point of failure.
If the barrier to entry stays too high, staking just centralizes into a few major service providers, which is a huge risk.
Fusaka actively combats that by empowering smaller participants, and improved decentralization directly contributes to making Ethereum a more stable, institutionally palatable settlement layer.
Speaker 1And meanwhile, despite all the market volatility, and we saw ethereum plunge six percent overnight to twenty one hundred dollars before it rebounded by over ten percent just recently.
Speaker 2A wild swing.
Speaker 1Yeah, but the long term bullish narrative seems to be underscored by this massive corporate accumulation.
It suggests institutions are looking way beyond these immediate swings.
Speaker 2We are seeing the really strong players accumulating even as other digital asset treasuries or dats are feeling the heat and pulling back.
The conviction among the serious institutional players is just staggering.
Like who, well, take bidmin immersion technologies.
They're already the largest corporate ether holder.
They accumulated approximately six hundred and seventy nine thousand eth wow, which is worth about two point one three billion dollars just over the past month, in one month, in one month alone, and their target is just extraordinarily ambitious.
They want to accumulate five percent of the total eath supply.
As of now, they've completed sixty two percent of that goal six.
Speaker 1Hundred and seventy nine thousand eth in one month.
That is a serious conviction play.
It signals a major belief in Ethereum's utility structure, especially right after an upgrade like Fusaka.
Speaker 2It signals they view Ethereum not just as a speculative asset, but as essential infrastructure that's going to define the next decade of finance.
And we saw another another really unusual financing move that highlights this same long term view, completely divorced from the short term volatility.
Speaker 1Right.
That was Republic Technologies they used to be known as Beyond Medical Technologies.
Speaker 2It's the one they raised one hundred million dollars through a convertible note offering specifically for future Ether purchases.
And the terms were what was so striking, They.
Speaker 1Were really unique for a dat in this kind of environment.
Speaker 2I mean, the note offered a zero percent interest rate, zero percent and it included no requirements for investors to post collateral.
If the price of ETH falls, normally, with a volatile asset like this, you'd need hefty collateral or really high interest to mitigate the risk.
Speaker 1So what does that structure allow them to do?
Speaker 2It allows Republic to avoid having to spend cash to service debt or default on interest payments, which has been a major issue that's plagued other leverage digital asset companies during downturns.
Instead, investors are essentially providing pure capital.
They're betting purely on the asset appreciation of ETH itself, not on the borrowing mechanics or the company's operational success.
A clean high conviction bet on Ether's price trajectory.
Speaker 1So, given all this institutional movement and this massive accumulation, what are analysts saying about the price action going forward beyond this recent volatility.
Speaker 2They're pointing to what some are calling an infinite demand loop that's shaping the ethereum price prediction.
Speaker 1An infinite demand loop, what does that mean?
Speaker 2The analysis suggests that the price is being shaped more and more by these converging, non reversing forces.
So one you have the anticipated spot etf inflows once US regulators finally approve those, they'll create this constant passive demand.
Two, you have continuous demand from staking rewards.
Eth is constantly being locked up and removed from the liquid supply to earn staking yield.
And then three you have the network's continuous feeburn mechanism from EIP five five point fifty nine.
Speaker 1Right, which permanently removes a portion of transaction fees from the supply.
Speaker 2Exactly so these three factors combined, analysts argue, are creating a structural supply squeeze that will just continue you to define Ethereum's long term trajectory.
It makes every correction just a short term liquidity event in what is fundamentally a structurally bullish market.
Speaker 1And this institutional support isn't just limited to buying the asset right, it's also funding the core technology that keeps the whole network safe and resilient.
We saw a major investment in network reliability this week that connects high finance directly to core Ethereum engineering.
Speaker 2That's the one hundred and five million dollar series around.
It was led by Jane Street into a company called Antithesis.
Speaker 1And what is antithesis.
Speaker 2Antithesis is a software testing tool.
They market themselves as providing the infrastructure for never down software, which is obviously essential for high speed trading and financial markets.
Speaker 1And there's a direct link to Ethereum here.
Speaker 2A critical one.
The Ethereum network itself previously used antithesis to stress test conditions right before the merge, so it demonstrated its capability in preventing catastrophic failures in these incredibly complex, decentralized environments.
Speaker 1So you have a major high speed trading firm, Jane Street, leading one hundred and five million dollar round into the very software that's stress tested Ethereum's biggest ever upgrade.
Speaker 2It's a huge vote of confidence.
Speaker 1So what exactly is this deterministic simulation testing that they do and why does a firm like Jane Street care so much about it?
Speaker 2So, deterministic simulation testing is the ability to run a system like a blockchain or a trading exchange and replay complex failures or edge cases exactly as they occurred.
It ensures that errors are perfectly reproducible, which.
Speaker 1Is different from traditional quality assurance.
Speaker 2Testing, fundamentally different.
In traditional QA, errors are often fleeting and really hard to pinpoint.
But Jane Street they're dealing in milliseconds and billions of dollars.
They require zero tolerance for technical failure, So by investing an antithesis, they're betting that this technology, which proved its worth in the merge, is essential for building the resilient, safe financial systems of the future, whether those are TRADFI or digital asset platforms.
Speaker 1The connection Now Jane Street is betting one hundred and five million dollars on prevention, precisely because the risks from things like automated hacking and technical failures are rising so fast exactly.
Speaker 2Researchers recently noted that AI agents are now capable enough to identify exploitable weaknesses and smart contracts much faster and more comprehensively than any human analyst could.
That's a scary thought, it is, and as these AI models get cheaper and more capable, automated hacking could rapidly spread from just defy exploits to a much wider array of software and critical infrastructure bugs.
This makes tools like Antithesis, which proactively surface these complicated, hard to reproduce edge cases before they blow up in a live network, absolutely essential for any institution that wants to minimize their operational risk in the digital asset space.
Speaker 1All right, let's shift gears to Bitcoin.
If Ethereum is focused on expanding its infrastructure and decentralization with upgrades like Fusaka, Bitcoin is currently navigating a wild roller coaster market while desperately trying to find sustainable utility beyond just its digital goal status.
Speaker 2It has been a profoundly volatile few months.
It's really tested the convention of even the most long term holders.
Bitcoin hit an all time high back in early October, only to plunge nearly thirty five percent over the last two months, and it dragged the entire market down with it.
Speaker 1We have seen some recent recovery, though we have it's.
Speaker 2Pushed it back up to trade around ninety three thousand dollars, up from a low near eighty three thousand, But analysts are pretty clear on this.
BTC needs to decisively break above the ninety eight thousand, five hundred dollars resistance level to formally reverse this week's long decline and convince the market that a structural uptrend is back in place.
Speaker 1And some analysts are pushing back hard against the idea that this volatility signals the start of a new crypto winter.
They're calling it a mid cycle reset.
Speaker 2That theory, yeah, it's being pushed by research firms like glass Node and Fastenara Digital.
They argue that this recent plunge is a necessary flushing out of all the excess leverage, a mid cycle reset, not a prolonged downturn.
Speaker 1And do they have evidence to back that up?
Speaker 2They have some pretty powerful evidence.
They point to the structural flow data.
Since the November twenty twenty two second low, Bitcoin has attracted over seven hundred and thirty two billion dollars in net new capital flow.
Speaker 1Seven hundred and thirty two billion.
Speaker 2And here's the striking part.
That single figure is larger than all previous market cycles combined.
It's just the foundational flow of capital into the network is just unprecedented.
Speaker 1That figure is staggering, and it sounds incredibly bullish.
But I have to challenge that data a little bit.
If Future's open interest has climbed to a record sixty eight billion dollars and perpetual contracts are accounting for ninety percent of the activity, how can we be sure that seven hundred billion dollar figure isn't just heavily inflated by leveraged wash trading and internal market movements rather than real long term capital coming in.
Speaker 2That is a critical question and it really speaks to the fundamental dilemma of measuring the health of a hyper leverage market.
Now, data firms like glass Node they do attempt to filter out internal exchange transfers and wash trading, but the high proportion of perpetual contracts certainly complicates the picture.
Perpetual contracts, just by their nature, they allow massive positions to be open with very minimal collateral, so that means the nominal value of transfers can look huge even if the underlying net new capital coming in is much smaller.
And this is why the volatility is so intense.
The market is simultaneously attracting massive long term institutional capital and functioning as a hyper leverage derivatives casino.
It just makes the flow data structurally noisy, and.
Speaker 1That leads directly into the risk concentration issue.
The recent volatility included a single liquidation event that wiped out over half a billion dollars in positions overnight.
Speaker 2That liquidation wave was brutal, and it perfectly illustrates the danger of that derivatives concentration future's open interest has indeed climbed to a record sixty eight billion.
And if you look closely at that structure, perpetual contracts, those are the instruments that continuously reset funding rates and don't expire.
They account for over ninety percent of all activities.
Speaker 1So the risk gets massively concentrated.
Speaker 2Massively because when prices swing, margin calls just cascade across the entire system, and that leads to the massive wipeouts we just saw.
So for all the institutional talk, a large segment of this market remains a hyper leveraged casino and it's vulnerable to these rapid, large scale corrections.
Speaker 1And yet despite that casino atmosphere, Bitcoin is also being measured against traditional finance networks and it's actually holding its own as a settlement layer, which suggests real utilities being found even if it's not being properly priced.
Speaker 2Yet it's an incredible contrast, isn't it, high speculation versus high utility.
Over the last ninety days, the Bitcoin network process nearly seven trillion dollars in.
Speaker 1Transfers seven trillion.
Speaker 2That massive throughput actually exceeded what major card networks like Visa and MasterCard handled in the same window, so that statistics strongly reports the view that Bitcoin is evolving beyond just a passive store of value into a critically important global settlement rail.
It's capable of handling large scale institutional value transfer securely and quickly.
Speaker 1Still, the traditional finance critics, they remain deeply skeptical, especially about Bitcoin's capacity to function as an actual currency.
Speaker 2Oh, they absolutely do.
The Financial Times recently published a critique arguing exactly that that Bitcoin cannot function as a currency.
Speaker 1Period And what was their argument?
Based on?
Speaker 2Their argument hinges on a pretty complex economic concept.
It's called downward supply in elasticity.
Speaker 1Okay, we need to unpack that jargon for everyone listening.
What does downward supply inelasticity mean for Bitcoin's use as a currency.
Speaker 2So think of it this way.
A currency needs to be flexible.
If demand for that currency suddenly drops, let's say during an economic panic, a traditional central bank can respond.
They can tighten the money supply, they can raise interest rates, they can even destroy money supply maintain the currency's value.
That's elasticity, and Bitcoin can't do that.
Bitcoin because its supply is fixed and defined by an unchangeable mining schedule.
Cannot do that.
It can't respond to a drop in demand by reducing new supply or destroying existing supply.
The supply is inelastic, so the FT argues that the structural rigidity prevents it from ever truly stabilizing as a medium of exchange.
They suggest, if you're worried about dollar debasing deficits, you should just buy gold, and they note that gold has in fact outperformed BTC since the summer.
Speaker 1But the Wall Street bulls, they seem totally undeterred by these critiques, especially after this recent dip.
They just see the volatility as temporary.
Speaker 2Totally undeterred.
We saw Eric Trump, for example, publicly stating that the dip is nothing more than a great buying opportunity.
He added that he's never been more bullish on the future of cryptocurrency, and.
Speaker 1This conviction comes even as his own cryptolink firms have faced massive volatility.
Speaker 2Massive including American bitcoin Core plunging nearly forty percent after a major share onlock event.
The big players seem to be taking this volatility in stride.
They view it as just an inevitable part of the path toward modernization and the realization of that settlement.
Utility.
Speaker 1This argument that Bitcoin needs more utility just keeps popping up.
If it's ever going to achieve that multi trillion dollar total addressable market that proponents always talk about, it has to be more than just number go up.
Speaker 2That's the core challenge.
It's the final frontier for bitcoin, and this realization leads us directly to the proliferation of layer two solutions that are designed to overcome Bitcoin's native limitations on speed and transaction cost.
Speaker 1And one project that's getting a lot of attention is Bitcoin hyper.
Speaker 2That's right.
Bitcoin hyper aims to transform Bitcoin from a static asset you know, something you just hold, into an actively usable one.
It wants to provide the high performance execution layer that many argue has been missing all along.
Speaker 1So how does it do that?
How does it integrate technically with the base layer without compromising Bitcoin's famous security?
Speaker 2What do this by utilizing the SVM engine.
Speaker 1Wait, the SVM engine, not the EVM that Ethereum uses.
Speaker 2Right, the Salona virtual machine.
It's known for its incredibly high throughput and efficiency.
It's capable of executing thousands of transactions per second, which far outpaces THEYM virtual machine in raw speed.
Speaker 1So they chose it for speed.
Speaker 2Bitcoin hyper is choosing the SVM to enable the kind of instant, high frequency applications like DeFi trading or gaming that Bitcoin's base layer simply cannot handle.
Speaker 1So how does it anchor all of that high speed activity back to Bitcoin for settlement?
I mean that seems like the critical trust component.
Speaker 2It anchors everything back to Bitcoin for final settlement via what they call a canonical bridge canonical bridge.
The turn canonical here is key.
It means this bridge is the one agreed upon sanction mechanism for a locking Bitcoin on the base chain and then issuing a corresponding SVM compatible wrapped version inside the hyper ecosystem.
The security model ensures that the total supply of that wrapped asset can never exceed the amount locked on the Bitcoin main chain.
Speaker 1So you get cryptographic certainty.
Speaker 2You get cryptographic certainty that settlement is ultimately guaranteed by Bitcoin security, no matter how fast things are moving on layer two.
Speaker 1And what does that enable practically for developers and for users.
Speaker 2Well, it makes it possible to run high throughput applications.
We're talking complex DeFi protocols, fast placed gaming, instant payment applications, all leveraging bitcoin's core security.
For holders who want more than just passive appreciation, this is really compelling because it unlocks utility.
It allows them to tap into that multi trillion dollar total addressable market that requires more than just a monetary premium.
Speaker 1And then demand for the native hroypr token rises from there.
Speaker 2Exactly because it's used to pay for gas, for staking, and for governance within that application layer.
It creates an economic feedback loop that supports the entire ecosystem.
Speaker 1So the technology is adapting to make bitcoin usable, but the culture is also going mainstream, I mean literally moving into the halls of power.
We have to talk about the opening of the Pubkey Bar and steakhouse in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2This is a remarkable cultural and political milestone.
Pubkey, which is expanding from its successful New York location, is opening a massive twelve thousand square foot location in DC's former Penn quarter space on December fifteenth.
Twelve thousand square feet, and it's far more than just a bar.
It's being pitched as a dedicated bitcoiner hub.
It's complete with a podcast studio and event space, and even the Bitcoin Policy Institute is subleasing space right in the back.
Speaker 1A bitcoin think tank meets a steakhouse only in DC.
Yeah, what's the mission behind creating a physical bitcoin hub right in the heart of the lobbying capital.
Speaker 2Well, the co founder Thomas Pakia, who is a former derivatives lawyer, he described it as the most approachable way for somebody to say, I've been reading about this thing, I don't get it, but I'm curious.
Speaker 1So it's about education and outreach.
Speaker 2Their goal is overtly political and culture.
They want to counterbalance the vast amounts of crypto lobbying dollars being deployed in DC by broader crypto interests.
They want to be a grounded, physical voice for the normal bitcoin user and enthusiast.
And they're planning weekly educational programs in fireside chats aimed at lawmakers and staffers who might be curious but intimidated by the technology.
Speaker 1And they're making a very sharp distinction between bitcoin and the rest of the market.
That's a political move in itself.
Oh.
Speaker 2Absolutely.
They have a strict, almost fundamentalist policy.
It is a bitcoin bar, not a.
Speaker 1Crypto bar, Bitcoin not tripto.
Speaker 2The chief operating officer, Dan Collowey explicitly distanced the venue from meme coins like dogecoin, Bonk and the trump Coin.
He called them wayward cousins and suggested that investing in them is like being in a casino.
It's a crucial cultural statement designed to position Bitcoin as serious digital sound money, distinct from the broader, often frivolous, speculative digital asset space.
Speaker 1I love that cultural friction.
So if you go to pug key, how do you pay?
Is there any incentive for using BTC?
Speaker 2You can still pay with cash or card, but Bitcoin payments are definitely encouraged.
They do it via a QR code scan using the Square payment system.
But there is one item designed to be a clear incentive for adoption and a nod to the culture, which is the one hundred dollars orange fill Whale cocktail.
Speaker 1Orange fill Whale that sounds like a pure cultural reference.
It is.
Speaker 2It's a zombie tiki drink that comes with a bunch of swag, and it can only be purchased with bitcoin.
The name is a direct combination of two iconic terms in the community.
Okay, the orange pill this means being converted to the Bitcoin ethos and ideology, and the whale, which is the term for a large investor.
It's basically a signifier that you are a serious money spending bitcoiner.
Speaker 1That's fascinating, But what's the actual adoption like, Well, that's the interesting part.
Speaker 2Despite the focus, only about seven percent of Pubkey's overall sales in New York currently come from bitcoin p payments, So it suggests the primary draw is the community and the curiosity, not yet the payment rail itself.
It's that Truman Show moment they describe.
You might think you're just in a regular bar until you look up and see the bitcoin price sticker on the wall.
Speaker 1Let's move down to the sector that bridges traditional finance and digital assets, most directly institutional payments, and we have to focus on XRP in stable coins.
XRP is certainly having a moment, trading around two dollars and twenty cents, and it's shown a recent bounds of over nine point five percent.
Speaker 2The assets narrative remains focused resolutely on its institutional payment utility and of course the legal clarity it gain following its recent court wins.
Speaker 1And within the retail community there's this enduring obsession with certain accumulation benchmarks.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, the long running debate over holding ten thousand XRP is still very much alive and well.
Speaker 1The ten thousand XRP.
Speaker 2Club commentators called is quantity, which is currently about a twenty two thousand dollars investment the psychological and strategic benchmark necessary for and this is a quote unimaginable financial freedom.
Speaker 1A bold claim.
Speaker 2It is, and while some acknowledge it's becoming harder for retail investors to reach that level as the price climbs, it remains this really potent aspirational goal within the community.
It just reinforces that long term speculative view and.
Speaker 1Ripple CEO Brad garling House.
He also recently threw out a bold prediction that frames this entire market cycle.
Speaker 2Brad garling House is extremely bullish on the macro outlook and he's positioning XRP for this coming way of institutional adoption.
He predicted that twenty twenty six will be the most bullish year in cryptohistory.
Speaker 1Well what basis.
Speaker 2He says it will be underpinned by macro tailwinds like potential rate cuts and accelerated institutional adoption through ETFs.
He even offered a precise prediction for Bitcoin, suggesting it will hit one hundred and eighty thousand dollars by late December twenty twenty six, driven by cryptoetfs still being in their earliest formation stage.
Speaker 1We're seeing a fascinating contra between retail sentiment and institutional flows in XRP right now.
It kind of mirrors what we were just discussing with bitcoin.
Speaker 2The data really suggests a market split.
Retail investors are reportedly producing their exposure, maybe taking profits or rotating into other high growth areas, but conversely, institutional entities are entering through these new regulated mechanisms.
Speaker 1Specifically the ETPs.
Speaker 2Exactly, approximately three hundred and sixty five million XRP, which is valued at roughly eight hundred million dollars, moved into exchange traded products or ETPs in the latter half of November, and this coincided directly with the launch of the Canary ETF.
It's a clear signal that large institutional desks are using these regulated vehicles to gain exposure.
They're viewing XRP as a digital asset commodity through traditional financial instruments, and.
Speaker 1XRP is also making some concrete strides in tokenization, particularly in the real world assets space, which is a major institutional trend right now.
Speaker 2This is real world adoption on the XRP ledger, the XRPL that validates that utility narrative.
Dubai recently launched the Middle East's first government backed property title deed tokenization directly on the XRPL, and they're not the only ones following suit.
The country of Georgia is also actively considering the tokenization of its land registry.
This move into RWA's leverages the XRPL speed, its low transaction cost, and its confirmed regulatory status in certain jurisdictions.
It aligns perfectly with Garlinghouse's utility driven vision for cross border settlement.
Speaker 1Before we move on to stable coins, we should probably glarify some of the persistent myths about XRP.
I mean misconceptions often follow assets with complex regulatory histories.
We can use Ripplecto David Schwartz's points to clarify the fundamentals here.
Speaker 2It's crucial to get the technical fundamental straight because the XRP ledger often gets conflated with the company Ripple.
David Schwartz has repeatedly clarified several key points.
Speaker 1That's the first one.
Speaker 2First, Ripple does not control the XRP ledger.
The network is public and it is decentralized.
It operates via consensus among independent validators who are running their own servers.
Ripple simply develops on the ledger and holds a large amount of the token, but they cannot unilaterally decide on network changes.
Speaker 1Okay.
And the second key point is about the supply, right.
Speaker 2The XRP supply is fixed at one hundred billion tokens.
It cannot be minted.
Unlike pitcoin, which has mining rewards or Ethereum, which mints new tokens for stakers, the XRPL has no mining or validator reward mechanism to create new units.
This ensures supply stability.
Speaker 1So the supply is capped and the network is decentralized.
Those are really critical distinctions for institutional.
Speaker 2Due diligence absolutely and Schwartz also emphasized that the ledger actually existed before the company Ripple was even formed, which just underscores its decentralized nature and its independence from any single corporate entity.
Understanding these technical facts is essential for understanding why institutional investors are now comfortable moving into things like xrpetp.
Speaker 1Okay Let's transition to the three hundred and ten billion dollar stable coin market, which is rapidly becoming that actual bridge that Blackrock described, and Coinbase seems to be leading the charge on integration with US banks.
Speaker 2Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong confirmed it.
He said the company is actively partnering with some of the biggest US banks on pilot programs.
Speaker 1And what are these pilots focusing on.
Speaker 2They're pretty foundational.
They're focusing on stable coins, on crypto custody, and on using crypto for trading settlement rails.
Armstrong's message to the broader banking industry was clear and pretty blunt.
He said the best banks are leaning into this as an opportunity to modernize their infrastructure, while the ones fighting this trend are going to get left behind.
He sees it as a generational technology shift.
Speaker 1And this shift isn't just happening in the US.
We are seeing major global infrastructure plays, especially in emerging markets, where stable corn solve real payment friction that traditional banking just can't handle efficiently.
Speaker 2Oh.
Absolutely, you need to look at the powerful partnership between Opera and SI Low.
They're expanding their work to accelerate mini pay, which is a non custodial stable coin wallet that has already grown to eleven million activated wallats eleven million, and they're focusing heavily on Latin America.
They're integrating Minipay with massive local payment systems like Mercatopago and Brazil's pix system for stable coin's real time payments.
Speaker 1The adoption figures in Brazil are just astonishing.
Speaker 2They really are.
In Brazil, the stable cooin adoption is staggering.
Over ninety percent of all crypto flows are now stable coin related, and stable coin purchases account for over half of all exchange activity across Brazil, Argentina and Columbia.
Speaker 1So this isn't speculation, this is a real utility.
Speaker 2This is pure utility.
Stable Coins provide citizens and businesses a hedge against their local currency volatility, and they're an efficient, cheap method for cross border trade that just bypasses the slow, expensive correspondent banking networks.
Speaker 1We also saw some new entrants backed by serious institutional money, targeting compliant cross border B to B payments.
Speaker 2That would be fin It's a payments startup founded by former Citadel engineers.
They just raise seventeen million dollars in a series A to launch a stable cooin app that specifically targets compliant cross border B to B payments in emerging markets, So.
Speaker 1They're building with compliance in mind from day one.
Speaker 2They're targeting regulatory compliance as a feature, not as a hurdle.
Their launch just underscores this growing consensus that blockchain based settlement is moving closer to the financial mainstream because of the institutional demand for faster, more efficient rails in that B to B context.
Speaker 1And when you talk about stable cooin empires, you have to talk about Tether.
They operate the largest stable coin valued it over one hundred billion dollars, and their investment profile is getting well.
While they're spanning far outside of crypto.
Speaker 2Tether's market cap is huge, but their investment portfolio is what's really revealing.
It shows a strategy to build a sprawling technology conglomerate.
We're talking about investments in video streaming, AI infrastructure, bring computer interfaces, farmland, and even satellites.
Speaker 1It's a huge range.
Speaker 2They invested in Rumble, the AI infrastructure firm, and committed a massive one hundred million dollars in advertising spend.
Rumble CEO noted that Tether's vision aligns perfectly with their focus on becoming a freedom first AI infrastructure firm, and.
Speaker 1They're also backing payments and compliance firms right.
Speaker 2They also back firms like xrax, which focuses on USDT based cross border B to B payments in emerging markets, and Crystal Intelligence, which is a blockchain analytics firm dedicated to combating illicit stable coin use.
Speaker 1That portfolio suggests a massive, well funded conglomerate spanning deep into global infrastructure and technology.
But Tether also remains mired in controversy regarding compliance and regulatory scrutiny.
That's where the tension lies.
Speaker 2This duality.
It's the core tension of the entire stable coin market.
You have this massive world spanning growth contrasted with these lingering compliance issues.
The US Genius Act, which established a regulatory framework for stable coins, mandates that they must be backed one to one by liquid safe assets like US Treasury bills, and it requires frequent, transparent audits of those reserves.
That's a new.
Speaker 1Standard, but controversy continues to surround Tether and USDT specifically despite their growth.
Speaker 2That's because the perceived lack of transparency in regulatory jurisdiction continues to haunt them.
The economist famously referred to tether as a money launderer's dream currency, specifically because of its global reach and its ability to be transferred outside of traditional banking scrutiny.
Speaker 1And there are specific examples of this.
Speaker 2Reports have highlighted that at least one point four billion dollars in USDT tokens passed through a wallet linked to the Cambodia based Q one Group.
This is a group that was flagged by US authorities for allegedly laundering billions tied to North Korean hackers, human trafficking, and vast scam operations.
Speaker 1That is as our reminder that as digital assets scale and merge with the global economy, the stakes for compliance and security are raised exponentially.
Tether's massive success relies on its speed and reach, but those same characteristics make it incredibly attractive to bad actors.
Speaker 2Exactly, it creates a necessary conflict.
The rapid expansion into AI satellites and global payments is impressive, but that expansion requires ironclad compliance.
The fact that the same asset is being implicated in high profile international crime suggests that the infrastructure for illicit finance scales just as fast as the infrastructure for legitimate finance.
Speaker 1Let's shift our focus now to that darker side of crypto security, regulatory enforcement and the horrifying physical risks that holders can face.
We have to start with the most extreme security risk, the rise of violent physical attacks terrifyingly known as wrench attacks.
Speaker 2This is truly chilling and it highlights the real world danger of holding high value digital assets without having extreme security protocols in place.
Cryptocurrency holdings are like bearer instruments.
If you possess the keys, you possess the wealth, and that makes holders immediate targets.
Speaker 1Detail the case of the Ukrainian student in Vienna it just underscores the severity of this risk.
Speaker 2The extreme case reported recently involved a twenty one year old Ukrainian student in Vienna.
He was reportedly beaten in a hotel garage, kidnapped, and then tortured extensively to force him to reveal the passwords for his two crypto accounts.
Horrific After the accounts were emptied, the attackers, a nineteen year old and a forty five year old Ukrainian national, doused him in gasoline and burned him to death in his car before fleeing with large amounts of cash and the stolen crypto.
Speaker 1And the data suggests this type of targeted violent robbery isn't an isolated incident, it's a growing trend.
Speaker 2Unfortunately, the trend is growing significantly.
The security researcher Jamison Lopp, who meticulously tracks these incidents, has documented over sixty violent wrench attacks targeting crypto holders just in twenty twenty five.
That represents a disturbing thirty three percent increase over the entirety of twenty.
Speaker 1Twenty four and where these concentrated.
Speaker 2These incidents are concentrated, particularly in high wealth regions like France, North America and the UK.
Speaker 1A thirty three percent growth in violent crime targeted at crypto holders is alarming.
Speaker 2Why is this happening now?
Is it just better reporting or attackers becoming more sophisticated.
Speaker 1It's likely both, but sophistication is the defining factor.
Attackers are no longer relying on simple phishing scams.
They are performing advanced surveillance to identify high net worth individuals who are known to hold substantial digital assets.
They understand that recovery is nearly impossible once the keys are extracted, and as the value of crypto holdings increases, fueled by the institutional adoption we've been talking about.
The financial reward for these violent, high risk attacks escalates.
It makes criminals more willing to employ extreme methods like kidnapping and torture.
Speaker 2Moving from physical violence to financial crime.
Regulators are stepping up in forced action against companies that allegedly failed to protect consumers or mismanage their funds.
We saw a major ruling against a bitcoin ATM operator.
Speaker 1Right the bitcoin ATM operator Coinimy was ordered to return over eight point three seven million dollars to customers in Washington state and also to non Washington customers.
Speaker 2And what do they do?
The Seattle based firm allegedly claimed unredeemed paper vouchers as company income between January twenty twenty three and December twenty twenty four.
These were vouchers that users purchased at kiosks but then failed to redeem online.
The problem was their failure to disclose this practice or turn the funds over as abandoned property to the state.
The state ordered them to halt all non withdrawal operations in Washington until they return the funds.
It emphasizes that user funds cannot be unilaterally appropriated as corporate revenue.
Speaker 1We also saw a significant legal setback for one of the world's largest exchanges, Finance, concerning a major theft and allegations of negligence.
Speaker 2Florida's Third Appeal Court reopened an eighty million dollar lawsuit again Finance, after a plaintiff claimed one thousand BTC was stolen.
The plaintiff alleges the exchange was negligent in not freezing the funds immediately and in aiding and laundering the stolen property after the theft was reported.
Speaker 1And this follows their massive four billion dollar settlement from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2Exactly, it follows their four billion dollar money laundering settlement with the US government where they pledged to drastically improve their compliance and security measures.
The reopening of this lawsuit puts Binance at risk of a revival of more claims concerning failure to secure or freeze stolen assets.
It really challenges their commitment to customer protection.
Speaker 1On the project side, we saw controversy erupt around the shiba Enu ecosystem team for how they handled a recent bridge hack, and it illustrates the difficulty of recovery without taking formal legal steps.
Speaker 2This is a complex case that shows the difficulties of recovery even when the evidence is crystal clear.
An on chain sleuth successfully mapped the laundering path of two hundred and sixty eighth from the Shabbarian Bridge.
He traced it through Tornado Cash and to deposits at coucoin.
Speaker 1So what's the issue?
Speaker 2The issue is that the SCHIPA ENU Ecosystem team reportedly failed to file a formal police report regarding the breach.
And this is critical because exchanges cocin in this case often require subpoena power, formal legal requests or a formal case number from law enforcement to cooperate in freezing and recovering stolen assets.
Without that formal legal action, even strong on chain evidence gets stuck in the legal system, leaving the victims without any recourse.
Speaker 1Let's check it on the original mean coin, dogecoin, with all the institutional focus elsewhere, what's the latest of the doge market?
Is it still being driven by major hype cycles?
Speaker 2Dogecoin is seeing a definitive cooling period, at least among large players.
Recent data shows that large holder activity crashed to two month lows.
Only eleven whale transactions were reported recently, which is far below what's considered a healthy range for an asset of.
Speaker 1That size, So what's driving the price?
Speaker 2This suggests that big players are active scaling back their exposure, or they're just waiting for a dramatic external catalyst.
The current price bounces appear to be driven by smaller, scattered retail traders.
Speaker 1And structurally, the long term prognosis remains bearish for some analysts because the underlying utility just has it materialized exactly.
Speaker 2Analysts point to a fundamental structural issue.
It's a lack of utility and developer inertia.
Dogecoin has very little real use as a payment mechanism.
Only about twenty one hundred and thirty six businesses worldwide except it, which is.
Speaker 1A tiny fraction compared to something like.
Speaker 2Visa, a tiny fraction of the one hundred and seventy five million businesses that accept Visa.
Furthermore, the development ecosystem remains really sparse compared to other layer ones.
This means it struggles to attract the talent needed to build genuine applications and integrate necessary infrastructure upgrades.
One prediction even forecasts doge could sink as low as five cents in twenty twenty six due to these long term structural problems unless there's a massive social media or celebrity intervention.
Speaker 1Before we wrap up the security and fraud section, it's worth noting the proactive steps being taken to fight consumer scams, especially during the holiday season when fraud always spikes.
Speaker 2Right Ripple CEO Brad garling House launched the Scamberry Pie public awareness campaign.
It's specifically aimed at fighting that holiday surge and online scams.
The campaign focuses on educating users about red flags things like fake giveaways, impersonations, suspicious links, and urgent messages designed to prompt quick emotional action.
The goal is to encourage open conversations within families and communities to break the silence that fraudsters rely on to.
Speaker 1Operate, and state regulators are on high alert as well, which suggests these scams are hitting citizens across all jurisdictions.
Speaker 2Yes, Tennessee's Department of Commerce and Insurance, the TDCI warns citizens about fraudster's dishing out convincing schemes that leverage the complexity of the crypto space.
The assistant Commissioner urged citizens to just take a moment to verify who they're dealing with before handing over money.
The common theme here is that verification and just slowing down are the best defense against crypto fraud.
Speaker 1Finally, let's end this section on a progressive regulatory note.
A significant development out of the UK regarding property law that lays the legal groundwork for all the tokenization we've been discussing.
Speaker 2This is a massive legal step that should be closely watched globally because the UK is a foundational common law jurisdiction.
The UK's Property Act of twenty twenty five clarifies that a digital or electronic thing like bitcoin or an NFT can indeed be the object of personal property rights, even if it doesn't fit the classic English law categories of property like a physical object or a claim against a debtor.
Speaker 1So it's essentially creating a third category of property, specifically for digital assets.
What does that mean for asset holders and the future of tokenization?
Speaker 2In practice, it strengthens the position of owners considerably.
It provides a foundational legal identity for digital assets, moving them out of an uncertain legal gray area.
It allows English courts to treat bitcoin and other tokens as an independent object of property rights.
This provides a much clearer defined level of legal protection, especially when owners are seeking to protect their rights against unlawful access or challenge technical failures by service providers like exchanges or wallet providers.
It's a foundational legal recognition of digital assets that drastically reduces legal risk for institutional adoption within the UK.
Speaker 1We've covered a tremendous amount of ground today from the macro environment pushing bitcoin adoption because of sovereign debt concerns to the granular engineering upgrades and ethereum with Fusaka and the institutional integration of stable coins all over the world.
Speaker 2The key tension is really clear.
On one side, you have this unprecedented institutional adoption.
Blackrock is embracing bitcoin as a necessity against sovereign debt.
Coinbase is partnering with major US banks on stable coins, and millions of dollars are flowing into xrkey ETPs.
This institutional title WI is simultaneously funding the underlying infrastructure.
It's making the rails cheaper and faster, as we saw with the Fusaka upgrade and the new Bitcoin Layer two projects it's paving the way for real utility.
Speaker 1And on the other side of that, we have the dark side of that exponential growth.
Speaker 2Exactly unprecedented retail speculation leading to massive leveraged wipeouts, ongoing regulatory battles over negligence and money laundering at major exchanges like Finance and with entities like Tether, and terrifying physical security risks like the rise of these violent wrench attacks, which show just how valuable crypto holdings are to criminals.
The infrastructure is maturing, but the risk ledger is deepening right alongside it.
Speaker 1So what does this all mean for the core decentralized ethos of crypto that started this whole movement almost two decades ago.
Speaker 2Well, here's the provocative question for you to consider as you digest all this data.
If the world's largest asset manager, black Rock, is now arguing that thirty eight trillion dollars in sovereign debt makes bitcoin a necessity and major global banks or adopting stable coins as a key component of future financial architecture, does that mean the decentralized ethos of crypto has fundamentally succeeded by becoming the institutionalized solution, or has it fundamentally failed by being absorbed into the very traditional financial system it originally set out to replace.
The answer to that question will define the next cycle.