Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast.

My name is Sean Coleman.

Hope wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you, yes, you and those you know, friends, family, everybody else.

Hope that y'all had a wonderful Halloween.

You're having a good start to November, and today is a significant show because the off season is officially here.

If you were a fan of baseball, one of the best World Series with some of the best World Series games I can remember in recent memory, it was awesome to see.

Congratulations to the Dodgers.

Cannot feel more bad for than I do for the Blue Jays.

Just gut wrenching to see the Blue Jays suffer losses like that.

But at the end of the day, the Dodgers are once again World Series champions.

That's happened.

It's in the rearview mirror.

We're officially in the off season and that means, Steven Tolbert, that we can officially start discussing some moves that the Braves are going to need to make because they're going to need to make up early and often to make this off season successful.

What's up, buddy, Yeah, man, So we finally got through it, We got through October, we got through Halloween, we got through the World Series.

Dodgers won whatever whatever.

I don't care.

I wanted the Blue Jays to win, but just a confluence of just the most random things had to happen for the Blue Jays not to win that series.

Whatever Dodgers won.

Onto the off season, so now we get going.

Now, it's all the stuff we've been kind of talking about and projecting officially gets kicked off today around like noon, MLB the official MLB communications account released one hundred and thirty four players officially hit free agency.

Of course, for the Braves, that's Ozuna, Iglesias, Charlie Morton, and Connor Seabold was among them.

The Braves that added so many guys, that got a little random at the end.

But you know, obviously Ozuna and a Glaciers are the big ones.

But yeah, so those guys are off the Braves roster.

Those guys are no longer employed by the team.

Those are free agents, free to sign with anybody they want to.

On Thursday at five pm, this show, we're going to go through some of the dates, the important dates that you're gonna need to know for the offseason.

Some are the important decisions that the Braves are going to need to make, and all of this is happening pretty quickly.

Not only is Alex a typically a pretty quick mover in terms of his main moves, but just you know, five days after the World Series, so Thursday, a lot of this stuff has to be decided upon.

So the Braves still need a manager.

We're expecting that news quite literally any day.

So this is even though the off season literally is just now starting.

This should be a pretty busy week for the Braves.

Yeah, and then that's the focus of our show.

Mark Bowman and MLB dot Com wrote a very informative, great article that really broke and down the important dates and how specifically the Braves are impacted by each of these notable dates of the off season.

And we're going to run mainly through the ones basically through the end of November.

That's really when some of the really important dates occur.

And when we're talking about, you know, some important decisions.

It's not only on the Braves d when it comes to important decisions to be made.

Their off season is also going to be impacted by decisions that players will make, and no bigger decision will occur.

Perhaps the biggest non Braves front office decision that could impact the Braves offseason, thankfully, is going to be the first one we'll know about come Thursday.

But Thursday itself is an important date for multiple reasons, and let's get into that first one.

Of course, that is the day where players with options, these these club options, player options, things like that, those have to be decided five days after the World Series.

So that means by Thursday we will know whether or not Hassan Kim will pick up his sixty million dollars player option.

Now spoiler alert, it's widely assumed that he's going to decline it.

But Steven, that is an important decision and obviously the first step in what could be one of the biggest storylines for the Braves this offseason.

Will they be able to retain in some way, shape or form, Hassim Kim.

Yep, All options have to be decided on by Thursday at five pm Eastern.

All opt out If you have an opt out in your contract and you're deciding whether or not to opt out or not, that has.

To be decided by Thursday at five pm.

The whole reason is because when MLB starts allowing teams to sign other free agents.

They want the free agent.

Pool set so they don't want new guys being added after the fact, So that's why they do it all.

On Thursday at five pm, options club options, the team has to decide are we picking up your option?

Are we paying your buy out?

We let you go?

Player options, same.

Thing an any kind of opt out that guys haveing their deals they have to decide by Then.

MLB wants the free agent pool completely set at five pm on Thursday, so that teams know exactly who's available and who's not.

And listen, you'll.

Hear a lot of this stuff before Thursday at five pm.

You know, news will start breaking about different guys.

You know, this guy plans on picking up his option, this guy doesn't.

The Braves kind of famously don't do that.

They wait to the last second to announce anything.

I don't know why necessarily, but that's just how they've always done it.

There's been times where they announced like an hour after the deadline.

They just they take and obviously everybody knows.

Very little actually leaks out of that front office.

So you know, if it doesn't, if you don't, if We don't know right at five pm Eastern on Thursday.

We will know shortly after.

Obviously we will do a show that night covering all of that stuff.

But yes, Thursday, the five days after the World Series, is a critical day of the It is the official beginning of the off season.

But so many of the important decisions have to be made by then, including and we haven't talked about this a ton.

We talked about a little in August.

The Braves still have like eleven guys on the sixty dail and I counted earlier they to add all eleven back, they still got to clear three forty man roster spots.

Now hasan Kim might be one of those because he declines his option goes into free agency.

But that means they still got to clear two more.

So they got a DFA somebody, They got to trade somebody, you know, they got to decline somebody's option.

But the sixty day IL goes away.

That's another thing that happens on Third at five pm.

The sixty day IL goes away.

So all those guys have to be on your forty.

You have to have space for all of them.

So we will one thousand percent certain get multiple roster moves either on Thursday at five pm or shortly before then.

And obviously we will cover it all as soon as the news drops.

Yeah, absolutely.

And the other thing to consider when it comes to the forty man roster decisions that are going on, you know that also brings to light, you know, kind of you know how many potential roster moves that the Braves will have available for them when it comes to them actually making moves, right, because it's not only about them adding back those eleven guys are on the sixty day IL and removing guys that they don't want.

That's not the end of the forty man roster.

Because you're adding back all those guys from the IL, none of them are likely to go anywhere.

But then in addition to that, you're going to have to clear room as the off season goes along, correct or additions that you make two to roster.

Now some later dates in November will also help to make room for that.

But that's the important thing to understand is that, yes, you the sixty man roster goes away, so you have to initially set what your forty man roster will look like, but do expect for there to be frequent updates, frequent roster decisions around and because of these dates that we're going to talk about, but also in terms of the things that we're not able to know as of right now, which are the Braves adding players, which we know that they're going to do as time goes.

On, Yeah, and teams go super low.

I remember a couple of years ago, I think it was a couple of years ago with the Braves, they did a full like purge of their forty men.

It was the year they traded four of their forty men guys to the White Sox for Bummer, and they purge their forty men roster right at the beginning of the off season.

And I remember at one point they got down to like twenty six.

Guys on the forty men.

And obviously you slowly ad guys back as the off season goes, and you get to forty by the time you get to spring training, but you're one hundred percent right fitting the sixty eight dayil guys on the forty is just the beginning of the process.

Because if you want to add and if you want to sign any free agents, if you want to trade for anybody, they all have to have forty man spots.

So yeah, we're gonna see.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw double digit forty man roster spots turnover in the next two weeks.

It wouldn't surprise me at all, because teams do that.

That's what they do in the offseason.

They just turn their forty man roster over any kind of the dead weight they carried all season.

They use this time to clear it and add new guys.

So don't be stunned it all if we get a number of roster moves in the next couple weeks.

Absolutely, And so that's the thing that we're getting at is that if you have been waiting like crazy for the Braves to start making some key decisions, it's coming.

You know.

We'll talk about this probably a little bit later on the show, but we haven't even mentioned the fact that likely within the next twenty four to forty eight hours we should get some type of update when it comes to the break manager position, who they potentially could hire so plenty to come manage your decision further roster changes Hasakim's decision will get all that and more when it comes to the Braves' roster.

But again, that's just the first week.

What about other really important dates that will help to shape how the off season will progress.

We'll discuss it in just a moment after a word from our partners FTFAM.

If you want more information about Superpower, I have real life customer Eric Kratz with us right now to explain how you're basically getting the pro experience available for everyone.

One is the price, and that is that's a discount from Superpower.

That's a discount from everywhere.

You get so much information from your lab test results.

Christmas is coming up here soon.

You can give this gift to somebody else.

Health is the gift that keeps on giving.

Your blueprint activated with Superpower.

Not only did Superpower reduce that price to what Kratz is taught about just one hundred and ninety nine dollars, but for a limited time, ft FAM gets an additional twenty dollars off with code take twenty.

Head to Superpower dot com and use code tak E twenty at checkout for twenty dollars off your membership.

After you sign up, they're going to ask you how you heard about them and make sure you mentioned ft to support the show.

Stop only reacting to health problems and start proactively improving your health based on real personalized data with superpower.

So Stephen, of course, over the next week, which is the first week in November, you know, we'll probably get a decision on the manager, We'll get further roster decisions as we make room for those io guys.

We'll get an understanding of you know, not only hasan Kim whether or not he'll accept his player option, but maybe start to get an idea of what his next contract will look like.

And you know how much of a realistic possibility is the Braves will retain him.

That's week one.

Then the next week we have the general manager's meeting.

Now this is I would say the less significant of the multi day meetings that happen within the first six weeks of the offseason.

But at these general managers we need you typically do see a little bit of action, but the main thing is general managers get together and kind of gain an idea number one of what MLB will be implementing moving forward that will help their decisions this offseason, but also getting some conversations going about trades and things such as that.

So that's week two.

Then as we go from week two to week three are really important, though it's not known yet.

A really important date that's not official, but the bravecebands are wanting to pay particular interest to will be right around mid November.

Awards season and of course the NL Rookie of the Year race.

Not only can Drake Baldwin potentially win the award, but that extra draft pick.

So that's going to be another important date to look at.

And then after that, as we get kind of through mid November, the first real official roster impact date, if you will, will be November eighteenth, which will be the day that players will decide whether or not they need they will accept a qualifying offer.

That will be the first date that players will do it.

Now.

Of course, you know one thing we didn't mention about Thursday, that's the day when teams will decide whether or not to offer qualifying offers to free agents, and then by November eighteen, those free agents will need to decide whether or not to accept those qualifying offers.

Steven.

When it comes to those decisions, I don't think the Braves are going to extend fine offer to Marcelo Zun or Russell Iglesias or anything like that.

But more of interest to the Braves players outside of the team right now, Which of those will be given qualified after offers on Thursday and will they accept them by the eighteenth?

Yeah, so the Braves aren't projected to hand out any qualifying offers.

None of their free agents reach that level.

If you don't know, qualifying offers of being a one year deal in right now, it's like twenty two million, twenty one, twenty two million dollars a year.

It's basically it's a really awful system.

Actual I can't believe the players ever allowed this.

It basically suppresses because if you sign if a guy gets offered a qualifying offer.

So it's usually the top free agents in baseball.

As long as you've never had a qualifying offer attest to your name, or as long as you weren't traded mid season, then you can be offered a qualifying offer.

And what it does is any team that signs you has to give up a draft pick.

And which draft pick it is depends on were you a luxury tax payer?

You know?

Are you do you get a competitive balance money?

You know?

There's different things, but essentially you have to give up a draft pick to sign a qualified free agent, which essentially just suppresses the market for these top guys, which it doesn't make any I just can't believe the Players Association allowed this, But it is a big deal for the Braves because, of course, the Braves have some pretty critical needs this offseason, maybe the most critical being starting pitching and guys like Dylan Ceese.

You know, Ranger Suarez could have qualifying offers attached to their name, and if they do, then the Brads have to give up a draft On top of having to give the guy a contract and be responsible for that entire contract, you also have to give up a draft pick.

And you know, we were looking at it a couple of days ago.

There's a really high likelihood that if Drake Baldwin wins the Rookie of the Year and they get a draft pick at the end of the first round, that will be the draft pick they have to give up if they sign one of these qualified free agents.

So, and it gets even more complicated if you sign multiple qualified free agents.

It's a very convoluted system.

I really kind of hate it.

But yes, the date you're talking about is obviously on Thursday.

Teams have to decide, is do I have a free agent that I'm going to offer a qualifying offer to if so, they have to do it by five pm on Thursday, and then November eighteenth, that player has to decide am I taking that one year, twenty two million dollar offer by accepting or am I declining that and going to free agency?

And then any team that signed that player would be penalized by a draft pick or multiple draft picks.

So yeah, that's a big deal.

And then, like you just said, and one thing we didn't mention.

There was a trade freeze that happens during the World Series.

Teams can't trade with each other.

That got lifted today.

So a lot of this stuff happens five days from now on Thursday.

But the trade freeze got lifted today, so teams could you could, we could wake up tomorrow to like four trades.

Teams can start trading each other.

Now.

Teams can't sign other free agents until Thursday.

You can sign your own free agents.

And we didn't mention that the Braves could announce a contract for you know, any of their you know, if they wanted to do a deal with Pierce Johnson right now and just sign them to an extension, they could announce that tomorrow you can sign your own guys, but you can't sign other people's free agents obviously, so.

That happens on Thursday.

But yeah, so the qualifying offer is a big deal.

GM meetings not as big a deal.

Some stuff happens there.

The Winter meetings that are in December are obviously the big ones where a lot of stuff usually happens.

But yeah, the qualifying offer is a big day, and unfortunately for the Braves, it's basically determining which players are going to cost a draft pick if they want to sign them in free agency.

An example of that, and also, let let's let's let's let's back up here a bit a few a few clarifying statements.

So one thing to understand about the qualifying offer when it comes to the Braves and Marcelo Zoo and Ryce so l Iglesias.

For instance, Mark Bowman pointed this out.

It's a noteworthy a you know, a factory with them.

Both of them already received a qualifying offer that they rejected in the past.

As a matter of fact, the last free agent that the Brave sign that had been offered a qualifying offer was Marcelo Zuna.

Between the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty season.

Today is November second, which, by the way, happy for your anniversary of the Braves winning their World Series woo.

But also you were just talking about the fact that you could resign your own free agents.

Well, it was a year ago where the Braves redid the deals for Ronaldo Lopez as well as Aaron Bummer, so yes, you could see some restructuring re signing a player, so that activity could happen as well.

So there's going to be activity across baseball at some point in time.

But I want to get back to the November eighteenth day, when we're going to have an idea, you know, first Thursday of knowing which free agents are going to have qualifying offers tied to them, and then after the eighteenth knowing whether or not they're going to accept it.

The fact that the Braves could potentially get that extra draft pick, even if they were to potentially lose it when signing a qualifying free agent, The fact that the Braves are likely going to have a bigger infusion of talent through this draft because of how they're going to be able to pick, and especially if they get the extra draft pick, and Also, if they're a bit more willing to spend this offseason than they were last offseason, all those factors could make it more of a reality.

The Braves may be aggressive and go actually make a big contract offer, especially to one of these pitchers.

I'm not saying it's likely, because it's not necessarily how Antopless usually operates.

I'm just saying that factors are there that could make it make more sense than this offseason than in previous ones.

Yeah, I mean, and even if you end up losing that pick, the Drake Baldwin pick, getting it is still a very big deal because you don't have to give up your second round pick.

I mean, yeah, you immediately lose it, but you you saved yourself, you know, another pick in the process.

So it's still a massive deal even if they end up giving it up.

And I will say a lot of teams treat the qualifying offer as basically, they treat it as there's a handful of guys they view worth giving up a pick for and a handful of guys who will get the qualifying offer who they don't view giving up the pick for.

And it's really it's, you know, they kind of scratch their name off the list.

It's kind of disqualifying.

Like they're like, all right, well this guy now cost a draft pick.

We do not think he's worth it draft picks, so we're just going to cross his name off our list.

We're just not gonna, you know, go after this guy this year.

But you know, there are guys at the very top of the market that are so good or so dynamic, are so impactful to your team, like when the Mets signed Juan Soto, or you know, there are guys that when you sign, they are so impactful that giving up a single draft pick to sign them is just the cost of doing business.

So it doesn't necessarily hurt the very top guys.

It kind of hurts that next level of guys who are good enough to get the qualifying offer, but aren't good enough to really justify spending a draft pick on top of the contract to go get that player.

I think Nick Pavetta got dinged with it last year and ended up having to sign a really late deal.

I think that's right.

I think he signed.

Yeah, he got a he got surprisingly got a qualifying offer, and he just had it.

It's kind of just like attached to your neck.

The whole offseason and he had to wait a long time to get a contract.

And now what'll happen to it.

There will be a couple of players who were on the line of getting one or not getting one, they'll get one, and it's really going to suppress their market.

And that's why I really don't like the system at all.

I think it's pretty clucky.

I think it's it's punitive to guys who finally get the free agency.

But yeah, it's out there, and November eighteenth is the day we will learn which free agents.

Are going to have a qualifying offer attached to their name.

Yep.

Here on the Hammer Territory podcast, we're discussing important dates and decisions that the Braves will be looking you know, at themselves making, at players making free agents, making so on and so forth.

That will kind of help mold the way that the off season goes.

So, you know, we just talked about the fact that you know, the qualifying offers, you know, with the you know, you've got to offer them as a team to your free agents by you know, the fifth day after the World Series.

Those players have until the eighteenth to decide, but one final date in November that is certainly important to keep an eye on.

Of course, is November twenty first, and that is the tenth deadline.

Now, this we've done a show on, We've discussed it in full.

We discussed the nine players that the Braves potentially you know, will look to make decisions on when it comes to tendering contracts.

Now, the important thing to understand about that date, it's simply the team officially making the decision that they are looking to offer a contract to this player or that they're not going to offer a contract to this player.

It is not on that date putting in stone what that player will be making as the season goes along.

That will happen later in the offseason and even then another factor that matters is if that player even makes it to the season.

Steven, if you will elaborate on that a bit more.

That November twenty first date, Yes, it's important, but it's not a full eight di zy process that's that day.

It's the beginning of a process for many players that will be on the Braiz.

Correct.

So the tender deadline is essentially it's the end of the line.

If the Braves decide they do not want a tender a contract for a player, that player becomes a free agent.

It is the beginning of the process if they do, if they do decide they want a tender a contract, because then you have to go through the arbitration process, which of course is you pick a number, I pick a number.

If we can't agree, then an arbiter picks one of the numbers.

Talk about another clunky system in baseball.

Arbitration is a disaster.

But whatever, But just as a recap, But we've done entire shows on this.

We've had some spare time here lately.

In case you haven't noticed, So there's nine guys the Braves have on their potential tender list Jake Freiley, Videl Bruhllan, Eli White, Nick Allen, Alex Manila, Dylan Lee, Joy Wentz, Joel Piamps and Jose Swarez.

So those are the nine guys who are currently arbitration eligible on that date or before.

And keep in mind, any of these guys could be no tendered dfade anytime between now and then.

It's just by the twenty first, you have to have made a decision on all of them.

You know, I'm going to tender them a contract, which means they stay on the forty man they stay on the roster, or a non tendrum they go into the free agent pool, that forty man spot opens up.

So that's what the importance of that date is.

We won't actually learn the players that do get tender to contract, we won't actually learn what their salary is until like middle of January, sometimes even later than that if the player goes all the way through an arbitration trial.

So sometimes they get announced in February.

So that date is specifically for these players will be tendered to contract and stay on the roster.

The other players will be non tendered going to the free agent pool, and again that they do that early in the offseason so that teams understand which players are going to be in the free agent pool, so that we don't have players being added to the free agent pool in December and January and February when teams have already made their decisions.

So that's that's why they do that.

And it's important to note that even though there is a date in the future where the Braves are going to decide whether or not to tender these guys a contract for twenty twenty six, they still have control of them right now.

And a good example of that was two years ago.

So the Braves, if they were to have already made the decision on some of these guys, you could see one or two of these guys potentially moved off the forty men when the Braves start adding back those players off of IL Or if the Braves see a guy on another team that they do want to spot for, they could trade these guys to that other team, and that other team would then make the decision on these guys.

Perhaps there's another team if the Braves don't want to keep Jake Fraley, maybe there's another team out there that likes the potential in him.

They would want him for their outfield depth.

The Braves could use him in the trade even though they haven't made the decision of whether or not to tender him a contract.

So there's still a lot of creativity, as Alex and Thoughtless has shown in the past, that you can do with these guys even if you've not made the decision yet of whether or not you're gonna tender them a contract for the next year.

Yeah, and this is the time where you can open up a chunk of forty man roster spots at one time if you want to.

It's just a very easy way to you know, you got nine guys to potentially decide on.

You could say, all right, I'm keeping four of them and I'm non tendering five.

Well, boom, you just opened up five forty man roster spots in one phil Swoop.

So you'll see this a lot.

This is a day where there will be a ton all over baseball, a ton of roster moves.

You'll see trades, you'll see you know, waiver claims, you'll see a ton of stuff, you know, because every team in baseball has to do this.

So and every team in baseball usually has six, seven, eight, nine, sometimes ten arbitration guys that have to be decided on.

So yeah, it's a big day.

And then one more that we that we didn't mention on the eighteenth, which is the day for the qualifying offer, is that is also the day where you have to decide if you were going to add one of your prospects to the forty man roster to protect them from the Rule five draft.

And the Braves actually have some interesting names.

We'll probably do a separate show on this because it's a little more prospect driven and we stay out of those waters unless we have an expert with us.

But in order to protect a guy who's been in your minor league system for I think five years, in order to protect them from the Rule five draft, you have to put them on the forty and again that those are more forty man spots that have to be created and so and every year there's usually one or two guys in the minor league system that get protected and then the Rule five draft happens.

So that's an important date.

The Braves do have some interesting names that could be protected.

That's just more roster moves that we'll see.

So, as Sean laid out, the first two weeks of November, there is a ton of like nuts and bolts roster things that happen, all because MLB wants to try to get the free agent pool as set as possible early in the November so all the teams know which players are available so they can make their decisions on rosters for twenty twenty six.

So the next two weeks are going to be busy as hell.

Even if the Braves didn't have to hire a manager plus potentially an entire coaching staff around that manager, which they do, it would still be a very busy time.

It's just a busy time in baseball.

The offseason moves, you know, the big stuff moves very slowly in MLB's off season.

The small stuff and the nuts and bull stuff like this moves very quickly because all this stuff happens within five, seven, ten days of the World Series ending, and it's all going to come in a flory in the next two weeks.

And you know also that Alex Enthopolis, more than others, usually likes to do some of his heavy lifting early, so you know that he will want to make sure he gets all the necessary formalities out of the way to position himself to see what can occur.

But you know, as we're wrapping up this edition of the Hammer Territory podcast, don't want to go without mentioning that now that the World Series is over, the Dodgers again first back to back champions in twenty five years.

As many know, every day that we've gone without a manager being announced for the Braves, it seems more and more likely that the spotlight could be shining on current Dodgers bench coach Danny Layman as being the potential candidate that the Braves are really focused on and we could see that made official early this week.

That is another factor in all of this, not only Danny Layman coming over as potentially being the manager, but what is his coaching staff going to look like?

Are we going to retain any of our old guys?

What new guys are coming over?

Could they come over from the Dodgers, could they come over from other teams.

That's going to be another very interesting component to watch for this offseason because based off who you bring over from different organizations or the Dodgers with Layman, if he's the guy, does that potentially tie you to other trade candidates or free agents that we really haven't thought of before.

So that's going to be another critical component of the off season, especially early on, to help kind of formulate how things will go.

Yeah, I mean that, you know, we've all been kind of connecting dots and if the Braves wanted to hire George Lombard or Ryan Flaherty, those guys there, you know, their postseasons have been done for a while, they could have hired him at any point and they have it and so just you know, natural connecting of the dots, it seems like they've been waiting on something.

Well, the Dodger season finally ended.

It ended in a World Series.

Danny Layman is now available to sign anywhere.

Do not be surprised at all.

The Braves are kind of famous for Monday morning news drops.

Do not be surprised at all if we wake up tomorrow morning and the Braves have a new manager and it's Danny Layman, So all of the kind of tea leaves are pointing in that direction.

I do think they want to get it done before.

All the player movement starts on Thursday.

It just makes sense to try to button that up and the coaching staff up.

Like trying to do all that.

Stuff while also like the off season is fully going seems like.

It would be a pain in the ass.

So I would think the Braves would want to get this done in the next couple of days before Thursday and all the stuff starts.

But we'll see Alex moves in.

Weird, mysterious ways sometimes and we can't always explain it, and sometimes you know, it's not just his decision.

Obviously, there are people on the other end of this that have to make life changing decisions.

And am I going to move across the country and become a manager or you know, it's not It's not as simple.

As just picking up a phone and getting the guy you want.

So, but I do think they're gonna try to make a decision on this as quickly as possible.

And again don't do not be surprised at all if we wake up tomorrow by the time you're listening to this podcast, the Braves already have a manager, uh for the you know, the next the next guy in line for the manager of the Braves.

And I will say this when we talk about you know, Alex and Thoppoless at times kind of operates, you know, away from conventional thinking.

While many of us are are potentially anticipated Danny Layman being the decision, this also could simply be the fact that we've not seen anything official yet, them simply getting to be able to fully vet Danny Layman talk to him, and after doing that, if they decide to go with someone else they've talked with, you can see that as well.

So while we anticipate it's going to be Danny Lamon, it's not necessarily guaranteed because they could simply talk with him, get you know, fully satisfy their interest with him, and if he's not the right guy pivot to someone else.

So that's the whole thing.

What we may think is going to happen, and what we know will happened in some shape or form, it may not necessarily happen in the way that we think.

So that's kind of the excitement of the off season.

But the whole point is this, The talk's over.

The speculation will still go on, but we're finally going to get some solid answers to some of the big questions when it comes to the braves.

And the best thing of all for you, our listeners who have been so supportive and can't thank you enough, there's only one place for you to come be able to not only get the news when it happens, but the full breakdown of what it means now, what it means going forward, and how it impacts other moves that are going to be made, because there's gonna be plenty of them.

That's here on the Hammer Territory podcast.

Yeah, and uh, by the way, we didn't mention it.

Shout out to Matt Olson was elected or not elected awarded I guess as the right we're there.

Awarded a gold Glove this evening MLB.

The timing of when MLB drops like award announcements is the most some of the most random stuff you'll ever see in your life.

They did it at like eight forty six on a Sunday night, in the middle of an NFL game, just kind of randomly announced the goal the Gold Glove Awards.

Mad Olson won his.

Much deserved Matt was fantastic at first base this year, so yeah, shout out to him.

I don't have a lot for gold Gloves, not a lot of analysis there, just you know, he had a really good defensive year.

He got you know, got awarded for it, So congrats to him.

But yes, big takeaway from this show the next specifically starting on Thursday.

Starting on Thursday, over like the next ten days after Thursday is going to be a very busy time roster management wise.

Roster management stuff.

I love it's some of the nuts and bolts, the random macination machinations of roster stuff, or.

I just I really love it.

I get into it.

So this is one of my favorite times of year, quite honestly, you know, not when there's not baseball being played at least, So it's gonna be a fun couple of days.

And then of course, on top of all that, the Braves have an entire coaching staff to build out, including the manager.

So there's going to be plenty of news over the next few days.

Is Sunny Gray going to be a Brave by Thursday?

If Sonny Gray is a break?

I think there's actually a decent chance Sony Gray is going to be a Brave.

So you know, we would have to throw Scott a party if they.

Scott's been Scott's been projecting Sonny Gray for like five years to the break.

Yes, yeah, I mean his whole career.

But but I say that kind of tongue in cheek.

But that's the type of unexpected thing we could see Alex because that him doing that gives him more certainty of what he's got to work with money wise for the rest of the off season.

So again, the whole thing about having so many questions the Braves need to answer, the multiple needs to fill on this roster.

You can pivot so many ways, and again we'll have it all broken down for you.

If you're a fan of Emergency Podcast, well, hey, you know what, just like Alex likes to give out extensions, Salaron likes to give out rings.

We like to do emergency podcasts, so we'll see their shout out to Tulkiene.

Sorry, just watch Lord of the Rings for the first time with my son.

So until then, go braves.

You can find Hammer Territory across all forms of social media.

Foul Territory across all forms of social media.

Make sure you stick with us here on the Hammer Territory Podcast.

Until next time, Go braves.

We'll talk to you again soon here on the Hammer Territory Podcast.