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5 Tips for Healthier Living

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Speaker 1

Dead Ass.

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At forty one years old.

I am in the best physical shape of my life.

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And I told y'all about that test that did from my blood work, and when I thought some.

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Of those foods were a hoax.

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I didn't want to let go of the gluten.

I didn't want to let go the dairy.

But I did, baby, and I've seen such a difference.

Dead Ass, Dead Ass.

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It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight from the heart.

Since then, we've gone on to become Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us.

It was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable, be.

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Wraw or but most apportly be us.

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But as we know, life keeps evolving, and so do we, and through it all, one thing has never changed.

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This is a severafter dead.

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Ass, because we got a lot to talk about.

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All right, quick story time, I'm gonna tell y'all back to I think I did tell part.

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Of this story about how I I messed my knee up.

I think it was two years ago.

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I was the kids of football and I was playing backup quarterback and I went to go outside the defensive vent, I started running and I felt my knee kind of like so now, I was like, that's not that big of a deal.

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Go home.

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That night, knee swells up.

So for about six months, my knee was constantly swollen and I wasn't able to get full range of motion in my knees.

And then you had took the test and you wasn't doing dairy no more.

So at that moment, I was just like, fine, if you're not doing dairy, then I won't do dairy.

And I cut milk.

The moment I cut milk, the swelling and not only my knee, but my back went away, and I was able to get more mobility.

So I started doing more mobility stuff, and doing more mobility stuff, and stopping the dairy allowed me to dunk a basketball again.

And that's when I realized, this is not something I want to do for a short amount of time.

This is something I want to do for the rest of my life.

And you and I have been on the journey ever since then to get back to Earth.

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It feels good.

Yeah, not even karaoke, but.

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Feels good, right, No.

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Good, that's our karaoke, okay, And we're gonna remix that.

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Yeah, it feels.

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You know why, because I love you, but I love it.

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Like a fresh vegetable.

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You'll tell me if you love touring a rebel, I love you like a fresh vegetable.

Y'all tell me if you love to rebel, big guy you are, Julie, tell me ruined me.

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See how we did that, See how we worked both cut that in.

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I know that's crazy.

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Come on, Tony Rebel, sir, did you pass away?

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Why would you just put.

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That out therese people kill you online because that's what they be doing before.

You know what you want to see?

Rest in peace, Tony Rebel t shirts he like, I'm right now.

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I'm alive and well, I'm here under the coconut tree.

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I just don't know why I was.

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I know that we lost a couple of greats, you know, in this past year.

But you know here we are all right, y'all.

We're going to take a break and we're gonna come back with Op or no.

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Op Live long, Tony Rebel.

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He's alive and well, I told.

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You I.

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Wasn't sure, but I know somebody definitely.

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King live long.

Kings.

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Don't let them do this, all right, we're back and this is very important to Kadeen and I, So we're getting through with the story times and stuff because we really want to get into how we changed our lives over the past eighteen months.

Not only us, but we changed what the boys eat, We've changed our parents.

Like it's really been a whole overtaken.

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So we're going to get into that.

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It's like a labor of love work in progress.

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But it's also like we're not coming to you guys with like this whole like clinical perspective, like that's that's your research to do for your own health benefits, depending on what you may or may not be struggling with.

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We can only attest to what's been.

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Working for us five simple things.

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I just want to put that disclaimer out there before you be like, well, why trot and they said, and this is what works for us, and you can take it to leave it, but we at least wanted to share it because so many people have been commenting on, you know, what we've been doing or asking what we've been doing.

Speaker 2

No, definitely take it, you know, pause because it works, right, so don't don't leave it.

But when we say this is not a clinical diagnosis, We're not telling you based on your blood type what to do.

We're telling you based on humanity.

What works for ninety nine percent of humans.

The only one percent may be the tony rebel that passed.

That she knows because the tony rebel, I know, still a lot.

But that's the only one percent that is.

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Don't work on.

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My bad bread rebel, generalel.

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General, yes, general vegetables.

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He's eating this vegetable somewhere.

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Rebels.

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All right, But what do we got for avno app today?

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And you know, I just wanted to bring up a couple of little health things.

But before we get to that, do y'all listen to keep it positive?

Sweetie with girl shout out to Rene.

I like to call her thousand dollan cauld She be dressing.

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That is the fact.

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Is a fact.

That's a good one.

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Did you put in her comments yet?

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No?

But I'm going to now.

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You got to go thousand dollars.

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Yeah, okay, dressing.

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Because it's always going like, what is what was the last one that you did?

I think she was in all white, so.

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I said there was something about curtains, and I said, okay, curtains.

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Because you be closing the show.

It was the show something.

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I said, okay, Christmas Tree, because you lit like one, Oh my god, shut up, shout out.

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Crystal's two.

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By the time this airs September eleventh, all right, so whatever date it is, watch or get ready.

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To watchday I catch episode one and two, three and four, which other episode we'll see?

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Okay.

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So Cristal had the CEO of honey Pot on her show talking about why she sold her company, and I already know how y'all feel about this, but she was saying, like, I love having money, I like having multiple house houses, and she basically was like anybody that starts a business should be looking.

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To sell it to steal themselves.

Speaker 5

So I think, I think I already know what app you have.

But op any any further analysis of this situation?

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H I have an op.

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My op is I understand why some people who don't understand business gives her backlash, saying why would you sell the company that you created for us for a black women, by a black woman to someone who may not be a part of the community.

I understand where the backlash come from because they feel like this is ours right, But I feel like they don't understand that the idea was ours.

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The company doesn't have to be ours.

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The idea was And she used a company for a lot of good because not only has she made a lot of money for herself, she's also contributed to the community with her earnings.

That's something that she does a lot of And now that she has more resources because she did sell the company, she can pay it forward more.

And I think we have to broaden our mindset to what black entrepreneurship looks like, just like we did selling Grandma's house.

Right, it was a thing where you keep grandma's house in the family because it means so much.

But no, what if grandma's house can give us so much more by what it's value at.

And I think what she did with her company, she saw the value, she saw an opportunity to get out and move on to something else.

And you never know, she probably create another bigger company with the resources you got that can help us even more.

So my op is I'm all for a shout out.

You know, that's great, great business and we all as black people should start learning how to do business that way.

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Yeah.

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My opp is just that people need to understand and maybe do more research on why people scale and sell businesses.

I think that's like a fundamental thing that's a part of business.

When you start a business, the main objective is to grow your company to scale and then to sell it.

Now, I think the issue that lies with some people is that they feel like maybe the integrity of the product may be lost or maybe a big altered because if it gets to the point where you're going to have to outsource for certain factories or things like that, then they worry about the product that they love so much.

And it's true as far as being either diluted, water down and whatnot.

So I understand the concern about that, but also understanding that black entrepreneurs who have products specifically it's a lot to get them into these bigger companies where they can then do more, like to your point, then being able to pay it forward by using the funds that they get to help other people as well or reinvest into small businesses.

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So you know where we stand on business.

It's just you know where we're staying.

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We be standing on business and we support black entrepreneurs who really have a bigger vision for their companies.

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Yeah, I think the Honey Pot Company was something that was needed in the space in the large scale space because that badger seale douche your grandma will been using.

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Since nineteen six or the mass and gilt, Yeah, the what is.

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It called the what's the Summer's eve?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, she putting ACV in the tub.

Still that's not working out, baby, So honey pot is really solving an issue for the girls.

Let her do that for all the girls.

We colch.

Somebody's uh ma'am a too be doing that shit.

Somebody's white madma put the douche away.

Get her some honey.

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I also want to say this to shout out to her because I just made a post and I forgot her name.

But the father of modern gynecology, it's just been exposed that he became known as the father of modern guy to ecology by operating on young black women who were enslaved.

Yet, so to me, this is another example of black women taking their own health and wellness into their own hands and saying, we're not going to rely on anyone else to tell us how to treat our bodies.

So I understand the connection that black women have to honeypop because if you think about the father of modern guynecology not caring about black voices.

Now you have something specifically for black women.

I get why there's that feeling of like this is out.

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Right, don't ruin it for us, right, And.

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I do think there is a responsibility for business owners if you're going to sell a business or scale a business, to find a partner that's going to try to keep the business as close to what it was.

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So that all of the people who supported your.

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Business can continue to get the care and the things they needed in that business.

So let's not act like that's not part of it.

And I'm pretty sure she tried her best.

Just like we saw this with the mal company, we see this with Tad, we see this with a lot of Now black women who have businesses are getting backlash from other people who don't understand the business aspect of it.

There are two components.

There's the component that you own that you love your people, but there's the business.

And we can't cripple these women's business because we have a sentimental value on it.

Same way we can't just dismiss our constituents and our people because we want to make money.

There's a balance, So let's make sure that we understand both absolutely.

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Love it, love it love it.

Speaker 5

Yeah, So we've been talking about we're talking about hell today.

Yes, has been talking about he's in the best shape of his life.

Kaden's been talking about she's in the best shape of her life.

Even Matt, Matt's been getting reefing the benefits.

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Listens on to.

Speaker 3

No, it's been it's been quite the journey, and it's amazing to see how when you get to the root cause of what your issues are, that in itself is healing.

So we're so accustomed to getting the band aids put on or the quick fixes.

But what helped me a great deal was when I went to the holistic doctor and had that blood work done.

The name of the test, because so many people were asking about the name of the test that I did.

It's called the alcat A l C at the alcat test, and it's pretty much a chemical sensitivities food test and went by testing your blood.

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It's impossible.

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You had to plug his thing is this particular test per food group was able to tell me the things that were highly sensitive for me and things that were giving me the green light, like girl, you can have all you want of this, but limit that.

And I noticed at first I was like, you know, this test is probably this is cap Like, I'm like, they can't possibly need me.

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To cut all these things just to be healthy.

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But some of the biggest things that I saw that would cause inflammation in my body were dairy, gluten, anything from the sea.

So I could essentially be a pescatarian because anything from the sea was okay, yeah, it makes sense, right, dark chocolate or just chocolate in general.

Something that was highly inflammatory to me cane sugar you know your Island girl again, like, I can't have my sugar cane.

Like so many things were heartbreaking for me.

But I did notice when I was preparing to film Divorced Sisters, I really locked down, you know, for six weeks.

I was like, you know what, I'm get in the best shape of my life possible.

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So I to.

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A tea eliminated anything from my diet that was highly inflammatory.

I worked with an online trainer who composed pretty much a meal plan for me based off of the things that I could have.

The only exception that I had to keep just because I needed the protein source in the morning was eggs.

So while my body shows that I should stay away from eggs for the majority of the time I did have eggs and moderation, and I noticed that my skin.

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That was the biggest one for me.

My skin cleared up so much.

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And I would like to say that since I was a teenager, since I hit puberty, I always struggled with acne.

I would have my bouts with it, you know, a little before that time of the month, I would have breakouts.

And I noticed that my skin was the best ever.

I had no breakouts on my back, my jawline, my face, everything was clear.

Of course, drinking an abundance of water, So drinking that gallon of water a day is not just something people say just to say, that is the way of flushing toxins out of your body.

Working out five times a week, strength training in addition to cardio, getting in the sauna.

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So we have the five things that I wanted to take them through, the five things.

Speaker 1

That we do.

And the reason why I didn't want to break it down.

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So scientific is because everybody doesn't have access to that test.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

That test is expensive, Right, The test costs a couple thousand dollars, and if you don't have a couple thousand or sick that test.

I wanted to be able to get people some things you can do right now to change right.

Speaker 3

Well, I'm unsure what this particular test costs because I had done a complete workup that was blood, stool, and saliva, so that compiled together from this doctor was about thirty five hundred dollars, So I'm not sure what the blood work alone would be.

But I implore you to find out, like reach out to your nearest holistic doctor or neuropathic doctor and see if you can get at least the blood work done.

You know, it's an investment for me because I said, you know, if I can go drop this money on a trip or potentially something materialistic, I want to make the investment in my health.

Speaker 2

So some people don't even have a couple hundred dollars to say, I always say, let's give them five things that they can do right.

The first the first five things that I know that you can do was release stress, drink water, exercise, change your diet, and get sun right.

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So those are the five things.

Number one.

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The one thing we changed over the last six months that really made a difference was we no longer wake up and run to the phone.

Kadeen and our first thing when we used to wake up used to be the minute I would wake up my eyes, I will go right to my cellphone and I will check my accounts, and I'm talking about all of my bank accounts to make sure all the money was there.

Then I reach out to all of my my associates that I have to do business with to make sure that I'm on top of everything.

Then I check my social media accounts to make sure nothing I hacked into.

And I started to realize that doing that first thing in the morning creates a level of anxiety that the minute you wake up, the first thing you're doing is looking at something electronic.

Speaker 4

It has to be done for the day, you.

Speaker 2

Know what I'm saying, from sleep to just I'm up, And that was all stress, right, So that was the first thing.

We no longer do that anymore.

We wake up, kadem will make I don't know if it's mullein.

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Leaf tea sometimes so sometimes mullein leaf tea, sour sap leaf tea.

You know, we'll kind of also just vege in the bed for a little bit, like it's not just getting up right away, you know.

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We'll canoodle a little bit.

Speaker 1

Two other stress.

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Depending on those are.

Speaker 6

This is pre toothbrushing.

Speaker 5

Well, this is a freak down nose.

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One thing we will both do will be canoonling and be like, I'm.

Speaker 6

That's a fact.

Speaker 1

Look I'm be looking at her like she was finished right exactly.

Speaker 4

No, that's one thing we don't like.

I just don't.

Speaker 2

Do you remember why to It's also a gut thing.

Speaker 1

There's a study that says you shouldn't even eat food or drink water or.

Speaker 2

Drink water before you brush your teeth because you have so many microbiomes and things that sit in your mouth while you sleep.

So for us, it's just become a thing that when we wake up, we just go brush our teeth because we don't want that bacteria.

I don't want to that bacteria blow into her face or we're kissing each other.

Speaker 1

So we wake up, we go brush our teeth.

Speaker 2

Then we get the mullein leaf tea or the ginger tea or whatever it is, and we go on the front lawn because it's early in the morning, you know, eight o'clock, nine o'clock, the sun isn't blazing yet, and we sit on the grass for like thirty five forty minutes and we just.

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Talked to each other.

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No phone, no phones.

Speaker 1

We just sit down, no shirt on.

Speaker 2

He may have on like a bikini top with some shorts, and we try to get as much sun as possible.

We limit it to thirty to forty minutes because no one should be baking in the sun.

Speaker 1

And let's be clear about the sun.

Speaker 2

Where you you are island, you love bakon in the sun.

Speaker 1

For me, it's not good because I work out.

Speaker 2

I can't sit in the sun and bake and be dehydrated then go bust my tail in that gym, running high incline, sprints and doing stuff.

So what I try to tell people is you want to get thirty five to forty minutes in the sun, not to the point where you're drenched in sweat and you can't stand anymore.

Speaker 1

But you have to get that vitamin D.

Speaker 2

Most Black people these days have vitamin D deficiency because we don't like being in the sun.

And that comes from growing up and your parents telling you get out the sun, don't get dark.

You're gonna be in the sun getting dark, and no, let's get in the sun and get dark.

That's where our.

Speaker 1

Muscles, our skin, our bones.

Speaker 2

We developed so many nutrients from sitting in the sun and also putting your feet on the soil.

Speaker 4

And put your crown.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's like a connection that you have essentially to like the earth center of the earth when you're there.

Speaker 2

After that, we're gonna come in this house and we're gonna work out, And the type of workout we do is going to be very different than what people think.

Speaker 1

People think that we go when we say movement, we just oh, I do.

Speaker 2

My high inclined walk on the treadbill for thirty minutes, and I may do some hit workouts.

No, we lift heavy weights to develop strength in our quads, our thighs, our hamstrings, and lower back because studies also show people who have grip strength and strengthen their legs live longer.

Speaker 3

Right, and they live a functional life.

You don't want to just live and be sedentary.

You want to be able to move.

So I saw a video recently and it was like kind of cool to see because it's like you do a dead lift in order to pick up groceries, You do a squat to eventually have to get on and off the toilet.

These are things that people at a certain age are not able to do anymore.

Speaker 4

You can't even open a jar say.

Speaker 3

They say, most women, I think, by the age of sixty five can't even open a jar of like tomatoes because the grip strength is gone.

So all of these things are what we do in mind, not just for the vanity of it, but for the functionality and long term movement that we aim to have as we age.

Speaker 2

The biggest thing we did was we changed our nutrition.

We no longer wake up first thing in the morning and run to eat breakfast.

That's something that we were all taught that breakfast was the most important meal of the day.

If you get you they started without breakfast, that you can't have a good functional day.

Speaker 1

It's not the truth.

It's actually the opposite.

Speaker 2

We've noticed that if we delay eating breakfast and we get some work done first, minus the days where I got lower heavy if I got lower heavy body, I'm gonna eat me something for that because then I feel lightheaded.

Speaker 1

But in days where I don't have a lot of heavy weights to lift.

Speaker 2

I'll delay eating breakfast because my body stays in key toasis and it allows me to burn fat.

And then the first thing I put in my body is not a bunch of sugar.

I'm not gonna have pancakes and French toast with.

Speaker 1

A bunch of oat meal.

Speaker 2

All that I'll tell Okay, I'll take eggs and berries, Bluebear reason eggs, that's it.

I'll take drink my coconut water.

That's another thing we do.

We started to eat drink more constructed water.

So rather than just drinking regular water from the tap or water from the bottle, don't drink disanisny is like the worst water you can ever drink in your life.

Get some coconut water, get some watermelon juice water, honeydew, melon water, like these are things that may have some electrolytes.

Speaker 5

But you know what I learned because a lot of just people who are I guess not well informed or just not completely informed.

A lot of people do like colon cleanting, which I think there can be some benefits to colon cleansing, But something I learned is that it depletes your body of electrolytes.

It does, and electrolytes are good for your heart health.

So a lot of people end up with like heart damage or heart failure doing colon cleansing.

Speaker 3

Absolutely right, Those are not meant to be done all the time, or it's not a quick fix.

Speaker 5

I saw an influencer never I know.

Speaker 2

When I played in the NFL, Right, they were talking to us about colon cleansing to lose weight.

A lot of athletes had to lose weight in order, you know, contract stuff.

I gotta be down to two fifteen and they talking about right before camp, I'll go get my colon cleans and I lose like six pounds and I'm like, bro, it's not supposed to be used like that where you just use it every time we have something to lose weight.

If you're not at the desired weight, that's because you're not living the lifestyle to be at the desired weight.

All these quick fix things ozembic, do we go v the colon cleanse.

Anything that's gonna quickly fix what you're going through is gonna ultimately kill you.

That's that's everything, and that's we've changed our lifestyle with that.

That's why we wanted to do this so much, because it's not about doing all of these super fad diets.

Change your lifestyle, make better choices.

Do I still drink?

Yeah, at night times, I may have me a glass of wine.

I may give me some in moderation, Right, I may get me a drink or some some rum with some coke at the end of the night.

But because I'm not drinking a whole bunch of of high fructose corn syrup during the day, if I have a cup of coke with my rum at night, I don't feel bad.

I still may eat candy at night.

If I smoke a little bit of weed and I got the munchies, I may get some candy.

Now, my candy is not gonna be five Snickers and ten packs of gummy beers.

Speaker 5

Man, I can't even keep a bag of many Snickers in the house.

Speaker 3

Many ones hit better than the longing about its yeah.

Speaker 4

Joints versus the regular joints anytime.

Speaker 5

Absolutely that's been important for me, is like just trying to change my diet and making just better choices when especially when it comes to like snacks.

So instead of getting a bag of candy, I'll get a bag of dried fruits.

Speaker 3

Yeah there you go to mangos mango apples.

Like that's been really good too.

But I do believe, like the boys, for example, going back to school, I do believe every maybe annually, you do like a reset.

So back to back one tradition that my grandmother did with us every year before going back to school.

You know what it is, right, You get your wash out, okay, and that's pretty much when she would boil some herbs, little senna, this, that and the third, and then you would drink the tea.

My mother would drop us to my grandmother's house on a Friday evening and we would stay with her through the weekend.

And we had to make sure that there was a toilet available for each of us because throughout the weekend your body would pretty much expel all the weights.

I do think like every now and again that's necessary.

But then you have to replenish your body with the things that may have been depleted.

So that's a good point to triple about the colon cleansing.

Speaker 2

That is, that's a really good point.

I also noticed that with people they make excuses.

Right, it's expensive to eat healthy.

Speaker 1

This is a fact.

Right.

Speaker 2

We would go get a brunch on a Sunday, family of six of us, right plus mom and dad a family of eight and a brunch will cost us anywhere between eight hundred to one thousand dollars.

Right, Seriously, bunches, think about it, bunch, think about when I think people go to brunch, right, what do they have a lot of.

Speaker 4

Oh, bottomless momosa drinking wafles.

Speaker 1

So it's about one hundred dollars per person when you go to you know what I'm saying.

We go to the farmers market.

Speaker 2

Now, she spends three hundred and fifty dollars and we have fruits and vegetables and food for the entire week.

So when people say like it's impossible to eat healthy, it's not.

Yeah, we got to drive forty five minutes to the farmers market because there's no farmers.

Speaker 1

Market by the house.

Speaker 2

But yo, rather than driving to Sunday brunch with your homegirls, how about we all drive to the farmers market, get some groceries for the crib, go back home and make some stuff at the crib, and eat healthier.

Speaker 1

This is where you can live longer, because once you change your lifestyle, you be shocked.

Speaker 4

Be shocked.

Speaker 2

We walk into movies now and not only me, kids be like, I don't want no candy.

Speaker 1

It's like your body just don't get you.

Speaker 3

Don't want anymore, and then you start craving the things that you've been putting in.

So we went to Mexico with the boys for vacation, went to the Nickelodeon resort.

Right, all things there are catering to kids.

So de Val and I went there and we were just like, oh my god, how are we going to eat?

Because we've been accustomed to eating a certain kind of way, and we would load up on breakfast mainly because we can get eggs, we can get the fresh fruit and things like that.

Speaker 4

But after that, forget it.

Speaker 6

Chicken fingers burgers, you.

Speaker 4

Know, and that's just it.

Speaker 3

When I came home, I landed, I literally was craving a big.

Speaker 4

Like kale salad.

Speaker 3

I was that I need greens, I need all the things.

But everything was in moderation, y'all.

You have to slowly cut things in moderation.

You can't cold turkey say I'm gonna drop this, I'm gonna drop that, because you will end up binging.

By making small changes, little by little, it's more impactful, I promise.

Speaker 2

We can also talk about this.

Though we no longer plan vacations around food, A lot of people do that, especially Americans.

Right, We're gonna go.

Speaker 1

Somewhere and it's like they gotta a buffet for breakfast.

Buffet.

Speaker 2

It's like, why do we go on vacation and look to pig out like this is the last supper.

When me and Kadeen did say, yo, let's get some eggs in the morning, let's get some fresh fruit.

Speaker 1

Will fast through.

Speaker 2

The end of the night, and then when we can get a really good dinner, we'll eat dinner.

And what we notice is that we're no longer on vacation bloated and heavy and tire because.

Speaker 1

We're sitting on the beach drinking like rum punches because that's what we use.

Speaker 4

Super sweet.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Yeah, I think one thing that people may be referring to because I know that there's there's people who are living in poverty who it is actually expensive to eat healthy for absolutely yeah.

And then there are people who can't afford to go to brunch on the weekends who think that eating healthy is expensive.

But maybe it's that it takes a lot more effort than what they are used to or what they have capacity for where they think they have capacity for it.

Because most of us eating vegetables is we eat vegetables that we grew up eating.

We can steam a green bean, a broccoli, maybe a little cauliflower, maybe a kale salad.

That's kind of new to some of us that we might be able to saltakee some of that, But what else do you do?

And now you got to figure out a recipe.

You got to figure out what's a good protein to eat if I can't eat red meat, or like what kind of vegetables can I eat that won't make me feel blooded?

All that stuff takes a lot of effort.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, it's crazy though thinking about that.

Speaker 2

My grandparents were alive during the Great Depression, and what I learned during that time speaking to them was that when they were going through times where they were in extreme poverty, they didn't just look for anything to eat.

They ate less because we really don't have to force feed ourselves to eat four or five times.

So, say you live in a place or you're in a position where financially you just don't have it.

That was us in two thousand and nine to twenty twelve where Kadeena and I were eating eggs in the morning in grits multiple times during the day because we didn't have the ability to go to brunch every week.

So it was like eggs became our thing.

And for me, it's like if you live in a position where you can't afford every single meal.

It's going to sound crazy, but it's okay to not eat every single meal.

Like we have to stop being gluttonous and just thinking that, you know what I gotta eat, So let me get McDonald's.

Yeah, you know what, you don't have to eat.

Get some coconut water, you know what I'm saying.

Get some berries or something you can eat, and then it later on to night, save that money that you have and try to get some beef, try to get a chicken said, you know, try to get something that has value.

Speaker 5

Well, that's what I was gonna say.

Like, it does become expensive when you're trying to eat when you don't know how to make vegetables, you don't know how to use herbs, So you're getting processed foods.

You're trying to mimic what you already were eating, but you're trying to do it in a quote unquote healthier way.

So you're getting ultraprocessed foods that maybe like plant based or maybe low fat.

That stuff can be expensive just because their marketing is health time.

Yeah, it's not necessarily healthy, and then you still will end up with, you know, health issues because this stuff has a lot of sugar.

Speaker 4

It's got a lot of yeah.

Speaker 7

No.

Speaker 3

And it's also not even just what you're eating, is the way you're preparing it, because you can have the same meal with for example, using vegetable oil versus avocado oil, and using a spray can oil versus liquid oil.

Like I forget which I was looking at something else because my feet is like all health now, But they were showing the comparison between you know, a tablespoon of olive oil that you cooked with versus just using the spray.

Speaker 4

It brought the meal up like.

Speaker 3

Three hundred calories.

So sometimes the way you prepare certain meals, too, will also dictate how nutritious it is.

Speaker 2

I'm glad you brought up the oils and understanding now that we don't put the same oils in our food that we did.

We don't use margarine because all of these things, even the idea of plant based.

Do you know why they call things plant based not because it comes from a place.

It is because it comes from a plant.

It's made with chemicals.

People don't even realize that.

And what happens is it was when I seriously was a marketing employer to trick people into thinking this is healthier than eating meat.

This is healthier, So let me go plant based.

So now you have a lot of vegans now who are saying, man, I didn't know what was in those impossible burgers until I did research and realized they.

Speaker 1

Use a bunch of chemical compounds.

Speaker 2

And so and so with seasonings and salt and sugar to make it taste like a burger.

And it's like, how healthy is that?

It's not healthy?

But it was never meant to be healthy.

Speaker 1

Just like why is Kentucky Fried Chicken now called KFC.

Speaker 6

Not chicken barbe.

Speaker 7

Islands barbecuing.

Speaker 4

You can't best KFC is in the Islands, bro.

Speaker 5

That's why, for sure that Anthony Bourdain said the best KFC was in Egypt.

Speaker 4

We've never it's on the it's on the bucket list of things to do.

Speaker 1

I do think it's important for us to understand, to understand why food is the way it is in America.

Speaker 2

Food has food has been used not only to manipulate us, but to keep us in a certain space.

Speaker 7

Right.

Speaker 2

I don't know who's watched these documentaries like What the Health and things like that, but I think it was in the nineteen fifties when Big Tobacco was facing a lot of litigation because people are getting addicted to tobacco, and because Big Tobacco was under fire, they went and got in bed with not the Drug Administration, but the Food Administration.

So now they created the same addicting qualities and put it in the food and now they're starting.

Speaker 1

If you read it up on it, it's like FDA.

Speaker 2

Approves lab grown salmon now to be sold in restaurants, attributed and distributed in America.

So it's like, wait, so if I just go to a restaurant and I just order a salmon, you're able to know where it came from.

This is what's happening.

So yeah, you might want to start getting a garden in your backyard.

I'm gonna just grow some cucumbers and some stuff just for myself, you know, I'm gonna's And that's.

Speaker 1

What we're on now, Like this is the farmer's market.

Speaker 2

It's pops tomatoes and Pops cucumbers back there everybody, and.

Speaker 1

It is making those it's making those choices.

Speaker 4

No, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 3

I mean I wish I lived somewhere that was year round, a little bit more tropical, Like I see why a lot of people moved to Florida for that purpose of you know what, I want to grow my own stuff.

Speaker 5

I have a hydroponic garden.

I grow food inside.

It's been pretty good.

The one that I have is kind of small, so I can make just like a few little things here and there.

So I'm getting used to like what what crops do I need and how many do I need to grow or how many can I grow that can make enough for me to kind of sustain stay on a regular basis.

Right, But it's been really it's been eye opening, and I think I'll take it further.

Like I know, I can get some like garden beds and maybe grow things that grow in abundance, like maybe some spinach plants or maybe some cucumber plants or something like that that will that I can grow in abundance outside of the hydroproduict garden and then use that for other things.

Speaker 4

That Yeah, that's so cool.

Speaker 3

I even learned when I went back to Saint Vincent last October with my dad that farming was in the curriculum at their schools.

Yes, and that's where because I was like, Dad, where'd you learn how to grow vegetables?

You just have this green thumb, and he was like, I didn't just develop it.

I was taught this, you know, when I was growing up.

Speaker 5

And we all should learn because you know, social services are under fire, yeah, and the things are being deregulated.

The more we moved toward like conservative politics, the more corporations are going to be deregulated, which means that the quality of our food, the quality of our healthcare is going to go down, down, down, and the prices are going to skyrocket.

So we have to be able to grow our own food and sustain on our own without relying on corporations more and more every day.

Speaker 2

As people, though we were never supposed to and I'm just talking about all people.

We were never supposed to rely on the government for our health.

That's on us, you know, and that's on us to teach our kids better.

You know, if you start these practices now, you'll be surprised how your children because I see it with my four children.

We go into the movies and it's like, y'all want gummy beers and they're like, nah, not really, Like we have to take pride and ownership and what we put into our body, and let's not forget you know why the sun is so important, K.

Speaker 1

The sun gives you nutrients.

Do you know why so many people are hungry.

Speaker 2

We've become a sedentary community where we're inside often, and the nutrients we get from the sun, we don't get them, so our body's looking for them.

So now we try to eat them, and we overeat because we're not outside.

Speaker 1

We have to get outside and move.

It doesn't matter if it's the wintertime.

Speaker 2

Put a hat on, put a coat on, and walk for thirty minutes.

Getting outside in the sun is very important.

Now I'm not telling you to go out there and bake like K.

My wife is a freaking Thanksgiving turkey.

Should be outside for four hours.

Speaker 1

I do it.

Yeah, I can't do it.

Speaker 3

Can't wait to be in W forty five forty seven.

I speak in terms of foundation color.

When I used to work at MAC, I was like, maybe I'm going to vacation and come back in W forty five n W forty seven.

Speaker 4

I can't wait.

Speaker 5

I love it.

Speaker 1

I like, I ain't even gonna lie.

Speaker 3

Like this, so I love I looked this up real quick because I do remember also seeing a clip where they were describing or explaining where the whole breakfast, lunch, and dinner history came from, and that pretty much was largely a product of the Industrial Revolution and the impact that it had on work patterns.

So it sstorically people only ate one or two meals a day back in the day, like animals exactly, but with dinner being the traditional main meal that you would eat before or by seven pm, right, because you want your your body to also be in sync with the cart like Ocadian rhythm.

Speaker 4

Yes, so in order to do that, you would normally stop at seven.

Speaker 3

But with the nine to five that was put in place, people started getting home later, eating later.

So the shift to the three meal structure with lunch becoming a midday meal for workers was driven by the need for convenient and quick meals during the factory and office hours, so we weren't necessarily made to eat no three times a day plus snacks and all that.

Speaker 2

Look up how they came up with breakfast.

Kellogg's made a whole campaign, Yeah, a whole camp.

Speaker 5

That's the same thing with the food pyramid exactly because yeah, because of the wheat wheat production.

Speaker 2

Yeah, to sell it, So tell them that, tell them that cereal is important thing that you have to have in the morning.

Speaker 1

They put a bunch of sugar in it, and.

Speaker 4

Then it was got milk.

Speaker 2

It was got milk because you wanted people to drink more milk, and then it was.

Speaker 1

Just like your bone stronger.

Speaker 2

All of these campaigns were all just social conditioning to get us to spend money on things that we didn't really need in abundance, and now we're running out of it.

So now we're running out of these things that we ate in abundance, so now we're producing it, and now you want us to.

Speaker 1

Do eat the fake food like it's real food.

Speaker 2

And then after we eat the fake food and get sick, you want us to take the medication to fix the symptoms from the fake food from the campaign that you made up.

Speaker 1

And it's like, nah, you're not doing that no more.

Speaker 5

Way.

Speaker 2

But that's really what's happening, and they don't want us to talk about it, so we might get canceled.

Speaker 1

Don't care because I'm not eating it.

Speaker 5

So I have a request, and I guess everybody can do this because I have I have one that I would share too.

But what's one practical resource that you can share with people who are trying to make lifestyle changes today.

And it doesn't have to be something that's expensive.

It can be one thing that you can do to motivate you to work out, or one workout you can do.

Speaker 2

Go outside, go outside and walks.

Speaker 1

That's it.

Speaker 2

I'm twenty minutes practical.

Go outside and walk.

If you have a hell even better, go outside and walk up the hill.

Start doing that every single day.

And if it's if it's a nice climate, take your hat off, take your shirt off, walk outside and get as much sun as the possible.

I promise you not only will you just feel better because the sun will be on you, but I forgot what it's called in your brain.

Speaker 1

It's escaping me right now.

Dope.

Speaker 2

Dopamine is a dopamine hit when you work out and you just feel better.

So you asked about what you can start that's going to help you get super charged to do that, Start walking outside in the sun, and when you feel that dopamine hit afterwards, it's gonna be like I can't wait for tomorrow to get my walk in.

Then if you add that to some heavy weights.

Speaker 1

Which don't got to be super heavy.

Speaker 2

If you got like a twenty five pound plate anything, and you hold it and you do squats with shoulder press.

The dopamine hit is gonna be like I can't wait for tomorrow, and then before you know it, my lifestyle has become.

That's why I think people in La to be honest, look better.

I don't think it's because it's the plastic city.

Speaker 1

I don't.

Speaker 4

I really think Miami is the same thing.

Speaker 1

That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 4

A lot of people in Miami look fairly healthy.

Speaker 5

Because you can be outside every day.

Speaker 4

Yeah I don't have a treadmill.

Okay, well you got heels.

Yeah, you got a running cannon or hikes.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

I think my one thing.

Speaker 3

Would be cut the sugar man.

Cut the sugar.

Sugar in the brain is dementia.

Sugar in the blood is diabetes.

Sugar in the skin aging.

Cut the sugar.

Yeah, as much as you can, I mean, and you have to understand it's not just refined sugars.

There's also the processed sugars.

There's the carbohydrates that break.

Speaker 4

Down into sugar.

Speaker 3

You know, you go to your local western end restaurant, they're going to bag you up with one set of rice and gravy, and then the protein is at a minimum and it needs to be reversed.

We need to have an abundance of protein, and then yeah, barely any you know, barely any steam cabbage.

So I would just say that cut the sugar off, because once you do that, you'll notice so much, so much of a difference between the way you feel.

It's going to be hard in the beginning because your body will probably crave it.

It's literally an addiction that you have.

But if you're able to cut it and curb it, you'll realize that you don't even want it anymore.

Things are going to be too sweet, Like I can't even I used to be able to down a can of gingerrell or coke easily.

Now I take maybe a sip if I want a little taste for something, But I stick to water all day fast.

Speaker 7

That's me a lot of stuff, apple juice, orange juice.

I'll dilute it with water.

Yeah, probably ten juice.

Water.

Speaker 1

I can't drink the same way we saw it with the kids.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I don't drink.

I haven't drank soda really in a long time.

That's the one thing, because you know, sometimes you can't cut all the sugar.

You gotta cut cut one thing.

You can get so I cut soda a long time ago, but sometimes I crave like a pepsi, like if I especially if I was drinking the night before.

So my birthday weekend, I got drunkie.

Yeah, and then I was like with my friends who came in town, and I was like, I'm about to stop at the store and get a pepsi and they shamed me so.

Speaker 1

Bad that I didn't.

Speaker 5

I didn't even get to have that pepsi.

So, yeah, get you some friends that will shame you out of having a sugary drink.

Is given accountability, but that's that's not my resource.

I think it's people.

So when you're talking about lifestyle changes, when you talk about eating healthier, the Value said something earlier that was like, basically, we don't.

People don't eat to live.

You know, you were saying you don't always have to eat, like that's you eat to live.

We don't do that.

We have a culture of living to eat.

We like to eat.

We want something that tastes good, we want it to look good.

We wanted to be savory and succulent, like the meat that what's his name fed Geneva.

Yes, I think it's important to understand that you can do that with healthier foods, And one way you can do that is just by exploring new recipes.

I love making a new recipe and I use a meal planner called twenty two Days Nutrition inspired by Beyonce.

It's the famous meal planner that she uses vegan, that she used before Coachella and everything is vegan.

And I've tried so many different recipes from this meal planner and they're all good.

Speaker 6

Are they really good?

Speaker 5

They're really good.

Speaker 3

I want to get I want to learn how to like cook mushrooms more, and you know, things that are easily not easily accessible, but things that are more but not meat essentially, like if I went because for me, chicken is a trigger, I can have it in moderation, so I want to find like a substitute for that as I like kind of transition out of eating certain things.

Speaker 5

So yeah, I think twenty Today's Nutrition is like twenty five dollars a quarter, So that's like what ten dollars twelve dollars a month, but you only get charged every quarter and it's like unlimited recipes.

It's super helpful and it helps me to eat more vegetables because I would just cook vegan meals at home, or I would use some of those vegan meals for like breakfast or just lunch vegan or whatever.

So I was eating more vegetables, trying more vegetables, figuring out that I like other types of vegetables, and then being able to expand my palate that way.

Speaker 4

Yeah, a lot of it is retraining your palate.

Speaker 7

Yeah, yeah, spage of time getting into don't jump into all these diet fasts as well.

Yeah, a lot of people burn out.

I want to make the change, then they try to do like a South it's not sustainable.

Yeah, you do all of that right away into the cold turkey.

It's like your body.

Speaker 2

And we all grew up on highly saturated foods with salt and sugar because you know, historically that's what families needed to survive.

I remember my family, like they're from the South, and no matter what it was, you put pork in it, and you put sugar in it, and you put salt in it.

It met collar greens, stringbands, cabbage.

I mean we had cabbage and you would put a slice of bacon in there.

We would put some syrup on it with corn bread, and now that I think about it, we grew up during the time where our ancestors didn't have much, so they.

Speaker 1

Had to make it taste good.

Speaker 2

Like chillens is not something you're supposed to eat off of a pig, but we had.

Speaker 7

That's all they gave us.

Speaker 2

That's not something you're supposed to eat off of a cow, but we had to make it work.

Now it's a delicacy, but I still also requires a lot of salt, a lot of sugar.

Speaker 1

You got to mix up the green.

Speaker 4

I'm still dear, dear, dear, dear dear.

It's about sixteen pound.

Speaker 3

Last time I saw, I said, okay, lord, you know I'm not supposed to have beef nohouse, so you made the super expensive.

Speaker 4

Yes, the one thing that's non negotiable.

I'm gonna eat some.

Speaker 1

We're not going to sit here and act like we holy than that.

Speaker 4

Because I am not the pillar of We're gonna get.

Speaker 1

Some biscuits at night.

Speaker 6

All that.

Speaker 1

We're gonna playing biscuits and spades, curry mutton.

Speaker 3

Like.

Speaker 1

That's what we're trying to tell y'all.

Like, you don't have to go eat no moderation, balance, you know, but take care of yourself consistent.

Speaker 8

The most important thing I think is understanding what you're eating, yes, and and not be ignorant to what you're putting your route.

Like I've learned pause waiting for the moment.

But I've been so proactively conscious in what I've eaten over the past few years because I've trained my social media to also include the foods and educate myself on that better.

Speaker 2

Because of seriously though, like your skin looks better people watching you lost weight in your face.

Speaker 8

And I think part of it is just like not being ignorant to what I'm actually eating, but just taking the steps to learn that and then coupling that with the exercise.

If you don't, if you're not conscious of what you're eating.

One suggestion I have is a Yuca app.

It's changed everything.

Speaker 5

Likes it.

Speaker 8

If you when you go to the grocery store and scan what you're eating, and you'll see that every single thing that they're giving us is bad for They'll tell you specifically what is in the app, So what is in the food, what preservatives they use, the health benefits the lack thereof with the symptoms of are some of the chemicals that they're giving us.

I mean, we're eating as ADHD prone food food all the time.

We're eating food that is bad for our gut all the time.

We're eating food that's going to make us depressed all the time.

And also add of benefit that it also gives you for like hair care products and like some of the stuff that we use, like loves to buy Dove, but understanding what doves you're buying could also have an effect on your homeowns and all that.

So I think every single thing that they're giving us is they're trying to kill us.

Speaker 1

They're literally trying too based.

Speaker 8

They're trying to get our money, but in the process of it, process of it, they're trying to kill ourself.

Pharmacy, K in yourself on what you're consuming, putting in your body, putting on I'm glad you brought that up because we've noticed the change too.

We used to use Dove deodorant with the allument the aluminum in it, and it's like every couple of months I would get like a swollen gland in my under arms.

Speaker 2

Same thing with K and I said, I must be using too much deoderant.

Since then, we started using native deoderant and native is all natural, there's no aluminum in it.

And I don't smell, And I said, you know what, I've noticed even one days I forget to put on my deodorant because I don't eat the toxic food that I was eating before.

It doesn't see my Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4

A lot of body odor is because of what you you.

Speaker 2

And some people have overactive glens, though that's not for Some people do sweat a lot, but I'm just not a person that has overapped.

Speaker 4

Somebody can't can't handle the people.

Speaker 6

Yes, you need it to.

Speaker 5

Be fair like you if you're a man, though I think you should.

You should stick a little bit like let me let me know you picked something heavy up today, saying don't come over here smell like fresh linen niggas all the time.

Speaker 1

I need you to smell like smelling that snak.

You lift anything exactly what it is you like you do it.

Don't listen to triples.

Speaker 5

You don't want you anyway.

Speaker 2

That is true, though, I don't wash your still with these.

Speaker 5

Women who actually like man want do you want.

Speaker 1

To have stinky man?

Speaker 4

I'm not a little bit.

Speaker 6

You don't want to be like a little bit?

Speaker 1

What was you?

Speaker 7

Sometimes?

Speaker 3

I mean, I'm not going to like I don't You're the same ones that say I'm not doing morning breath either, So if you want the kids or something, you better go broke your tea first, like.

Speaker 6

I'm not doing.

You know what it was for me, not preferably.

Speaker 5

I lived in Zanzibar for a summer and the men there all smelled like bo But then they would take their shirts off and they would be ripped, and I was like, Damn, that's why they stink, because these niggas be working.

I don't stink, bro, That's because you were in the gym.

These niggas was outside.

Ain't had no gym, you know what I'm saying.

They dragged bales of fucking grass and ship boarding houses.

But there they climb in your hand trees with no fucking ladders.

Speaker 1

So why you ain't get a zens a bar and husband?

Speaker 5

They I'm gay, That's why I can't.

Really.

Speaker 3

And the last thing that Josh made me think about when talking about Dove is sunscreen.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so we no longer use sunscreen like that anymore.

Speaker 1

Talk about it.

Speaker 3

Yep.

Speaker 4

The uptick is screen didn't win.

Speaker 2

I think it was like thirty eight or nineteen forty three, one of the forties, and the same time sunscreen was invented, melanoma cases just went through the roof.

Because the truth of the matter is when you put chemicals on your skin and then baking the sun, now you're baking chemicals through your body.

Speaker 1

You drink alcohol sitting and baking the sun like.

Speaker 4

You're on vacation.

Speaker 3

You're drinking your little peanut colata with running it probably, then your spring suntan lotion or spray on your body, and then you're sitting in the sun put.

Speaker 1

A mosquito repellent on you.

Speaker 2

It's yes, right, that too, and eating processed meats and the same You're doing all of this stuff to your body and saying that the sun is giving you cancer it's not, and expecting your body to be able to fight off.

Speaker 8

All this stuff all at the same time, it's taxing on yourself.

Speaker 5

It's so true.

I would say I would people to understand the correlation but tween the skin cancer and sunscreen, because I think too, there are other things that happened after nineteen thirty six that made people more exposed to the sun, more exposed to diet.

Speaker 4

Yeah, absolutely, the environmental change.

Speaker 5

This may not be the sunscreen, and there's different types of sunscreen.

There's mineral sunscreen that is not chemical.

There's chemical sunscreen.

So I would say do your research to figure out what we said.

Speaker 2

We're not doctors, so we're not claiming to be doctors.

But what we can tell you is that in a year and a half, we have not used sunscreen.

I used chocolate butter sometimes and I have not burned once.

In college, when I was drinking heavy and wearing sunscreen, I burned.

Speaker 1

All the time.

That's that's just a fact.

Speaker 6

Let it be.

Speaker 1

I wasn't burned like that.

I was like, no, we will go on vacation.

Speaker 2

And I remember my thirtieth, my thirtieth birthday, We want a vacation with Tip Steve, and we was drinking like we was.

Speaker 1

We was going hamm like this is my thirtieth birthday.

Speaker 2

We haven't double shots, but were putting on sunscreen and putting on insect repellent.

Speaker 1

And I come in that night and it's red, all under red.

Speaker 4

You don't want to skin the water to touch your skin and as.

Speaker 2

But cut to now, we go to Jamaica and I'm outside with the boys at Dun's River and we're outside for three four hours and I don't put anything else on but chaka butter one time in the morning, and I don't I don't burn.

But I also I'm not drinking alcohol and alcohol, right, I'm not processed foods.

I'm out there drinking coconut water, you know, So there is other mitigating factors, which is absolutely correct.

Speaker 1

It's not just the sunscreen, for sure, you do all of that.

Like what Josh said, your body can't fight that.

Speaker 2

You're putting processed meeting your body pause, you're putting sunscreen on, You're drinking alcohol.

Speaker 1

It's like all of that combined.

Speaker 7

Like come on, son, Remember alcohol is already bad.

So if you're gonna hear Hennessy or any dark room with a coke, you're just doubling up on the sugar.

Sugar, I know, get some coconut water, get some club soda.

If you drinking tequila, there's other ways to drink.

Speaker 6

That's true.

Speaker 5

Y'all know.

Speaker 3

I love rum is my lover, but I actually have cut back a lot on rum and drinking in general.

Speaker 4

I really just kind of like I'll be on all this step all right, y'all.

Speaker 3

We hope that this episode helped y'all out just to at least start thinking about it, having the conversations with yourself, with your loved ones, people around you, to see what changes you can make to just be a healthier version of yourself.

And we are going to pay some bills and come back with listen letters.

So stay tuned, y'all will be right back, all right, well back where our listener letter of the day.

Hey Kadeina Devou.

First, I wanted to say thank you for your representation of positive black love, black excellence and enterprise.

I've been watching you guys since the BK days.

Speaker 4

Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

Man.

Speaker 4

We love our day Once.

Speaker 3

So, my question surrounds overgiving.

My question surrounds overgiving in relationships.

I recently started holding my friends and love interests accountable for how they treat me.

Historically, I've been the type to perform to keep people around, and I've shrunk myself.

Speaker 4

For decades so that others wouldn't.

Speaker 3

See me as a threat.

I have many talents a conventional beauty.

I've often hidden both because to keep people around me happy.

I'm turning thirty one next month, and I'm tired, as you should be.

My parents and siblings have always made me reduce myself to serve them.

I come from a domestic and substance abuse household, and I've carried this into my relationships.

But enough is enough now that I'm on my healing journey, I feel selfish for choosing me.

I recently asked two people closest to me to show up for me.

Both relationships have ended because of it.

One friend hasn't visited me in LA she lives in New York for over ten years, despite me sending thousands of dollars I didn't have on flights to visit her over the years.

Another only calls when they need something, Otherwise they don't check in or answer the phone.

I feel stretched thin.

I recently asked both show up for me with presents, and I was shocked when they severed ties.

My friend from New York literally canceled her trip to visit me on my birthday once I mentioned to her that she hadn't been showing up for me for years.

Mind you, this was after a reschedule in my PTO.

Oh, she had to reschedule Okay, paid time off, cancel plans, and agreed to host her second two year old.

Who oh, she was gonna bring her two year old who she never even asked if she could bring the other ghosted me once I stopped reaching out.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned to my friends my growing resentment before she came to visit.

She's always been no fuss when I visited, but the visits have always been on her terms.

She didn't ask me much about birthday plans and said I had too many expectations when confronting her about overlooking my birthday?

Am I doing something wrong?

My circle's getting smaller and smaller, and I wonder if the way I'm going about caring for myself is selfish.

I want community, but it just seems like community doesn't want me.

I work in film and tech, so I know these communities exist.

But to be honest, I'm a little too jaded to even try anymore.

Help us us out bitter but better.

Speaker 1

Yeah, she handled that all room?

Speaker 4

What did you say?

Speaker 1

She handled that all wrong?

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Okay us because for decades she performed in a way that she thought people wanted her to perform to appease them.

So what she did was trained people I was about to treat them the way to treat her.

I wanted to treat her the way they wanted to treat her, and the minute she changed, they were honest and said, okay, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1

You can't hold that against them.

Miss.

Speaker 2

They are showing you who they are.

You bit the bullet, and you were honest, and they showed you how they want to treat you.

So now you move that over and now you create a community with people who are going to see you the way you want to be treated from the very beginning.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's starting from scratch, right.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's the only thing she did wrong was expecting them to treat her differently after she performed for ten years.

You created that monster, you andable.

Yeah, and now that they are being honest with how they want to treat you, just accepted.

Don't feel bad.

But now you know that they weren't really friends for you.

They were there for what they could get from you.

And that's okay because you don't have to deal with that anymore.

Speaker 4

Yeah, they were friends with your representative.

Speaker 3

Yeah, whoever you were showing up for or as in that friendship is who they thought they were getting.

And the minute that you said, you know what, that's not really me.

You can't fault them for kind of being a bit jaded because they're like, wait a second, you're not the same person that we thought you were.

Yeah, and these are just not your people at this point.

And people are also seasonal, like not all friends are going to be with you for your entire life.

You realize that people are around for a season and then you can move on.

Speaker 5

Yeah, she said she comes from a domestic and subs abuse household, which has probably made her hyper vigilance over time, which means that she's doing whatever she can to keep people in a good mood.

Yeah, happy people pleaser probably, yes.

And yeah, you don't really make really good community as a people pleaser.

You make community with users.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Absolutely.

Speaker 5

And also I think to your your other friends has a two year old, so it sounds like she's prioritizing something else for herself that doesn't really align with what is going on in your life.

So it's okay to get some new friends in La.

Yeah, there's there's plenty of people around you that you can make new and really good friends with.

It's not too late to make great friends in your thirties.

Speaker 3

Where you don't have to shrink and be a version of yourself that is dumbed down, Like go out there and be great.

You're gonna be thirty one, like these are about to be the best best years of your life, So you need to walk through your truth.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

I also want to see what she looked like, because she was like, you know, I got my shit together, I'm real cute, conventional beauty.

Speaker 1

That what you said, though, was true.

She comes from the household.

That household.

Speaker 2

She probably had the people please to stay safe.

Yes, yeah, and that's become her reality.

But to be honest, we got to stop blaming other people.

When we've people pleaded for so long and they're like you acting different, You can't blame them for saying you acting different because you are acting different.

Speaker 1

That's changed up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you know, but understand that now that you acting different, they can act different too.

So accepted.

Speaker 4

Yeah, absolutely, all right, Hope that was a help to you.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 3

All Right, moment of truth time.

We're talking health.

Today's five help tips to health tips to help you live a better life.

I think mine is just you have one body.

You literally have one body.

This is the body that shows up for you, and if you don't show up for it, it won't show up for you.

So do the best that you can for yourself, like you should want to be the healthiest version of yourself for you and for nobody else.

But people will reap the benefits.

I think about my children, who, as I grow older, will then have to eventually one day not take care of me per se.

Speaker 4

But I don't want them to have to.

Speaker 3

Be inconvenience taking care of me because I didn't do my part while I was able to then take care of myself and be a better healthy version as I get older, so they're not I'm not relying on my children or my family to have to take care of me.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna piggyback off of what you said, you only get one body.

In other parts of the world, people live to ninety years old and they're functional and they're mobile and they're healthy and they're moving around.

But in America here we reach to forty and everyone acts like you can't do anything anymore.

That's not a fact.

Be careful what you put in your body.

Move your body and love it the way you love them cars that house them, clothes, them, shoes, love yourself them, brunches.

Love yourself the way you love those two real things.

Speaker 7

That's health, baby, Yolo, you only live ones same concept, but the opposite.

Speaker 1

I get it.

That is very true.

Speaker 8

Do your research, man, They trying to kill us out here, so say yourself facts, Josh.

Speaker 1

Eisen, look the truth.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

I was talking to my friend during my birthday weekend.

She came down from Cincinnati, and she was saying, how we grew up as black women.

We grew up not really seeing black women like work out just for fun and like take care of their bodies like black women are had historically been just forced to hustle, to be stressed, to like do what they have to do, not what they want to do.

And so it's really great that we can have this space as black people to like normalize especially black women, because men are like always into sports and movement, but women are, you know, supposed to be domesticating and shit.

So seeing Caneen in the gym and seeing her body transform and being on the fourth floor, as she would say, it is very inspiring to be.

Like, Okay, once you turn forty on got to be you know, whatever your body gives you, you can actually give back to yourself at that age.

So I worked out this morning.

Speaker 1

A last time, but.

Speaker 6

We'll try to do it again.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think you should.

Didn't you feel good though?

Speaker 3

After?

Speaker 5

Yeah, I've been working out.

I've been backing in gym for like two weeks.

Speaker 8

Good.

Speaker 5

My moment of truth is I feel skinnier already period period.

But yeah, it does feel really good.

So we'll keep it up.

We'll check back with me in October.

Speaker 2

All right, now, I just want to think pharmaceuticals, it is not It is not a viable option to change your lifestyle, if you know what I'm saying.

If you're relying on pharmaceuticals to change it, then you're going to have longer term health issuesercussions.

Speaker 7

On the back end.

Speaker 3

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