Bending the American Dream.

You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Welcome back folks joining us now is Jacklaws and you go to jacklosson books dot com to find these civil defense manual volumes.

You can see them both here.

They are both thick volumes, have got a lot of dense information, and he's got passages from other experts as well, So you can find a lot of information about how to defend yourself in uncertain times, protect your community, find food, find water, make sure that you are not completely vulnerable in a scenario seems more and more likely every single day.

So of course he also had he's got a substack.

Tell people where they can find these firstalls, Jacklaws.

And jacklosson books dot com.

Yes, and Jack, what is the what is your substack address?

David?

It's uh, Jack Lowson books plural on the books dot substack dot com website.

Yeah, and there's a link on the website to it as well.

Instead of dot com, it's dot substack dot com.

It's it's got We've got huge amounts.

I've got one hundred some different articles on there.

A lot of this is uh uh, some of this out of my book, A lot of it is is very good free information.

And uh, like I told one guy, I don't just do this because I want to try to make a buck here or there.

I do this because of what we've been seeing.

We were seeing a deterioration, the uh deterioration of the fabric of American society.

Yes, insanity going on, and people are not going to have a problem until there's a problem.

Then they've got a problem.

And if you're not prepared, you know, it's it's like Colonel Douglas McGregor says, it's going to be on top of people before they can do anything about it.

So, yes, you need you need to get out there and get some get some basics done, protect you, yourself, your wife, your partner, your family, whatever, friends.

Anyway, Yes, I agree.

And two weeks ago you were saying there's gonna be more shootings, of course, and of course we had the day that Charlie Kirk was shot, there was also another school shooting.

Most people didn't hear about it because it was swamped out with all the news about Charlie Kirk, but it is a regular thing.

What was your take on this on your sub stack article in general?

Well, what I uh what I believe is happening in a country is I always wondered why these means solve.

African dictators went into the universities, arrested all the professors and closed the universities down.

I see why they did it ever since, and if you look at this, they didn't do it prior to nineteen twenty.

Ever since communism's come about, and especially in the thirties, the agitation and the education through universities and higher in institutions of higher learning have programmed people.

I think all of these people are getting so wound up in all of the injustices that they imagine through their educational system mostly that it's just corrupting their brain cells and causing them to want to become violent people.

Well, that they would do the radicalization just to the kids that were in college, But now they have taken.

It, you know, they've it's in the school system.

School system.

They've taken it earlier and earlier and earlier into the school system.

And that's what's really concerning about it.

And they've taken it to a level.

But you know, not even Marks and Lennon imagined with the training stuff, you know, in terms of getting these kids unstable.

Yeah I don't.

I'm no, I don't have a crystal ball.

I'm no Claire Boyant.

But if you connect the dots, you read enough and you think about things and connect the dots, it's right out there.

Yeah.

There are more of these shooters out there right now.

They just haven't gotten around to it.

Yeah.

This is going to happen repeatedly.

It amazes me the left is so anti gun, but it seems like all of the shootings, virtually all of them are coming from them.

Yeah.

As much as they'd like to blame it on a white Christian Conservative, I haven't been able to find one yet.

So yeah.

Yeah, there was one incident that happened, but up in Minneapolis I think it was but uh that where they attacked the legislators that were in state legislators.

But for the most part, you know, it has.

Been that guy was I don't believe that guy was a conservative.

I believe he was hooked into some defense agencies as far as security.

I from what I've read about him, I can't absolutely say that that he was a conservative.

Walls the governor appointed him to a position through four years earlier, so you don't usually get appointed.

I got appointed to a police board in Las Vegas.

And uh, I think you're right about that.

Yeah, No, it's there's there's politics come into play.

Yeah, people are saying right and left because.

Yeah, people are saying that because it was leftists that got shot up that were there.

But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case as well with this guy, because it is about mental derangement, and that is the real purpose of what they're doing in these schools is to get people disoriented.

They want you disoriented, even about what body you're in.

And I think that's the key thing that we need to understand as much as they do.

They understand that they got to mold the children from kindergarten on the earlier the better.

We need to understand that as well, and we need to take that back.

We need to take our children back from the state.

We were talking about that going to get done.

Is that going to get done under a conservative administration in four years?

I think I think it'll get done when we do it ourselves.

That's the key, you know, Just like you're talking about with your own self defense, we need children defense manually, which is called homeschooling.

And take your kids out of these institutions.

Fortunately, we have that ability in this country.

Most countries don't, and I think that's one of the things, like the Second Amendment, that's unique about America, and we need to exercise as those rights or we lose them.

And I think that they the family needs to get their kids.

Out of the school system.

And if we did that enough, we might be able to get a consensus that we don't want to pay these confiscatory school taxes anymore.

And that could be the end of the system, this building that is burning down and taking our society with it.

And so that's that's what I would hope.

You had a very moving statement in your substack about the death of a child that that you came across when you were there fighting in Africa.

Yeah, it's uh, I've always felt sorry watched his Goza thing.

I not just that.

It's everywhere.

Yeah, when there's massive civil unrest or war, the kids always take the brunt of it their innocence, and uh, I saw all ages of people.

It was it was mind bending.

I was it.

I saw so much of it.

But you talk about carrying a six month old baby in your arms to the helicopter.

Yeah.

Yeah, they were moving bodies out of a out of an area, and most of these people had been killed by the communists.

They were one tribe as much as they are both.

Both tribes are supported by different elements of communism.

Back then, you get two of them together and they'd fight to the death.

And they got into a village and they killed two hundred and six people before we could stop them.

We couldn't stop and they went into a frenzy.

And I just never forget this, this little baby that I don't know six months old.

I just know one thing.

It was something that's never left me.

But people don't see that kind of thing here.

I saw it firsthand.

Does it make you prone to thinking about violence more?

Of course it does.

I see these people doing what they're doing in this country.

They have no idea of the Pandora's box, the can of worms they're opening.

Once it's open, you can't get a clothed.

It's very difficult.

It takes a great amount of effort to restore civilization.

And I look at us.

I'm a student of the Spanish Civil War.

There are things that are the opposite here, but I look at us as being about in nineteen thirty five.

We're not far from open conflict.

Is it going to be the army against leftist or leftists and the army against conservatives?

I don't think so.

I think what you're going to see is increasing violence between groups of people.

Where it goes, I don't know.

I hope it doesn't go to what I lived in there, and that was the car bomb.

You never knew walking down the street, whether somebody's going to set a bomb off in a car and innocence kt killed.

That's right, yeah, it's and when you look at the twentieth century, the massive tens of millions of people killed in various conflicts, always a communist, you know, Stalin Mao, the situation in Zimbabwe.

Of course you also have in Cambodia and things like that.

It's always this leftist mindset that is godless, that is tatalitarian.

That's where this all flows from.

And I interviewed she Van Fleet a while ago, and she wrote a book called Mao's America, and she said all of this anti racism and stuff, and the tactics that they're using against kids, she said that was essentially drawn directly from Mao's struggle sessions where you had to denounce your parents and denounce this and to denounce that.

And she said, people don't realize that that was the foundation of what was being done by mal and they think that this is something different, something that's new, but it is tied back to that, and it will lead to the same type of thing.

Same same thing.

Yeah.

Side note for the worshippers of Miles Stongue and che Guvara.

Yeah, both of those guys took pride in their body odor.

Don't ask me where they got to.

One of the guys in my Special Forces chapter trained to Bolivians and hunting him down, which they did, che Guvara.

And.

Apparently he was so filthy when he was after the revolution.

He was working in the cane fields and he had relations with a woman there and he smelled so bad she threw up, you know, I mean, it was it was, it was.

These people are are are legends in their own mind.

They're fabricated legends.

And the bottom line is, you know, they got a lot of blood in their hands, but they're boundy determined to try it again because we didn't get it right the last time.

What is that I didn't kill enough people.

I don't know what goes through the mind.

You know, my neighbors in Las Vegas were escapees from Eastern Bloc countries and I had a interesting two hours.

I went to a birthday party.

I used to drink back and they're big drinkers, and I at a lull I asked what was communism like?

What was like living in communism?

They sat there, they were dumbfounded.

I asked that question.

They looked at each other, started chatting in their foreign language, laughing a little bit, and then they unloaded on me.

And one of the things that you have to understand is they said, communism destroys hope and the spirit of man.

It's naturally it's naturally antagonistic to human nature.

Yes, and antagonistic to God.

And uh, I'll have to remember that story about Chagua Vara when I see, Yes, I'm lefty wearing a Chego war Sir.

I probably won't say anything to them about it, because they're probably deranged enough that attack me.

I've got a comment here from Lanta says that seems to be a common problem for all communists.

That's right, Yeah, they are anti God, and I guess maybe that's maybe that's.

Where the thing.

Cleanliness is next to godlessness, and so godless communists are not clean.

Either goes hand in hand.

I think they're anti anti soap far anyway, it's it's a horrible thing.

Let me let me tell your listeners a little bit about my touth.

I was in the American Air Force.

I was I was an electron specialists.

I dealt with army and disarming the sorry W forty thermonuclear warhead.

After that I got out.

I ended up in Africa in the Foreign Legion, in an anti terrorist rapid response unit.

We were taken in by helicopters.

There also pairs who trained, so I saw differences in the military that were Jurassic.

And then, by the way, I call Africa the continent of the apocalypse now and the land of blood in tears, because that's all I saw over there was blood in tears, a wonderful, wonderful people.

The black people over there, Unfortunately, their tribal they're a little more prone to become communists and to take the hard walk on the road of democracy.

It's difficult for them to understand because of the elder system they have.

It takes a village type of mindset.

But Hillary loves so much right.

Oh yeah, well, I'll tell you what, that doesn't quite work the way the way that that statement is.

Now.

Then, i was on a police board in a major city, uh, one of the biggest police sports.

So I've got a lot of understanding of what goes on our society.

If you want to see the underbelivous city, go do a ride along with the police department.

You won't come out of there thinking the same way about your city again.

Anyway, I have to look at life as with the experiences I've had, I know how this is not normal reality we live in.

Our normal reality is barbarism and war.

Yes, and that's not me saying that.

That's C.

S.

Lewis, the famous Christian philosopher.

I do believe we've moved away from God and Jesus and good compassion and forgiveness.

And it's just showing more and more in the radical approach people are taking, not discussing anything they don't want to.

You're a Nazi racist if you don't agree with them.

Yes, and you know you were just talking about this earlier on your show.

But it's very true.

They want to silence you by calling you a Nazi, and I in turn call them lunatics because that's what they are.

Yes, And of course, you know when they wanted to move us away from God and where they wanted to shut down the free exercise religion, where they start the schools.

You know, that's where they started purging at first, and then it metastasized out from that, because everything always starts with the schools.

You know, we understand that the children are the future, but we don't act like it.

They do act like it, and so that's really the key.

And you know, the first time I talked to you, Jack, we talked about how fragile the supply lines are in America, and that was even before the lockdowns of twenty twenty.

Then we saw that demonstrate to us just how fragile supply lines are.

We had the imposition of the lockdown rules, you wound up with empty shelves.

But then on the farms, they were destroying massive quantities of food because they couldn't get it to market.

And so we have.

A they couldn't get a process, mostly because the factories the workforces were shut out.

That's right.

That was a large part, that's right.

So you know we have a very very fragile system, and you talked about that, the just in time delivery, and it tends to cascade.

So we are, as many people have said, we're like nine meals away from anarchy.

That's why your book is so important.

Being able to help yourself and also to help your neighbors, and to start to build connections with those neighbors, community of people who can stand with each other.

That I think those are the essence I see of the Soul Defense Manual.

Of course, you've had a lot of expertise in practice in that yourself personally, but you also have a lot of experts in various other parts of various other aspects that also have contributed to your book as well.

David.

Most most people have got my kind of background.

I want to go into teaching people how to combat shoot.

I've done this.

I was an instructor at a public range for seven years.

I don't get into the tactics so much.

I don't get in.

My prime directive is not tactics.

It's not how to shoot a gun.

My prime directive and people need to understand this.

Without this, you're not going to survive.

And that is to store food and the store water.

Yes, those are the critical issues, just like you say supply chain, and I go into this in depth.

I have a calculator.

It's free for people to use.

Go into my substack account and you can find the food and water calculator that will tell anybody if they get what they've got stored for canned food or ram in, any of those things, and calculate it.

I'll tell you how many days of food you've got.

Water.

Water has also become as fragile or more so than the food system.

And you have a free chapter about water at your website as well, Jackloss of books dot com.

How to you need a renewable water source, how to treat it anyway.

All that stuff's free in there if people want to go in and look at.

It, and I'm suggested they do because you need to know that about the water.

And if you see Jack's chapter on water, you'll realize just how wise and thorough these books are on other topics.

But that is a seminal one.

That's the one that you can't live without for a very short time period of time.

And so he put that out there for free.

It really kind of tells you something about his heart.

And especially last time I was on Travis and I were talking about the food and water thing, and he brought up this very thing.

Three days, four days maybe without any water, and three weeks without food, and that's that's when you start.

That's when you better be saying your prayers because you aren't gonna last too much longer.

And especially in a scenario where you know you don't maybe the powers down, you don't have air conditioning, or all these other things are happening, and you're having to exert yourself physically, the amount of water you need to consume goes up.

We're not just talking about your typical average day where maybe you know, you stay inside, you're in your air conditioned house, and you don't need that much water to stay active, stay hydrated.

This is going to be where, yeah, you're thinking, you're thinking three dimensionally like people have to think.

What you say is so true.

It's you might consume or need a fourth as much water as you do when the air conditioner.

I've got a friend, former Navy seel offs, a great author, Matt Bracken, and he told me, he said, Jack, wait till the air conditioning goes out in cars in Florida.

You're going to see a lot of road rage, you know.

And that's true.

People are so acclimatized to an environment that's comfortable that when it starts going the other way.

But what you say, Travis is very true.

That will put a factor to this, to the problem that multiplies it exponentially.

Yes, I grew up in Florida, so I know what it's like to travel on the car with that air conditioning.

Summer.

I went to schools of that air conditioning, and of course the cars had metal all through the interior as well.

They got really hot.

But now I've been spoiled.

It's just we get soft, you know.

And the guys from Florida is telling me about the convertible they drive around in drinking beer and having a hurricane party, drive it up the road with the top down, and it's so funny to listen to them.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Heat was the issue.

I've got the A to Z in this book, just about anything that people have to look at, literally being in an off grid situation without power, without heat.

There it's the simple things in here.

The Russians will teach you this.

Dig down into the ground, the root cellar, is the thing of the past generally as people.

But when you get down three four feet in the ground, and you can be twenty below zero as long as you cover the top, but you've got a fifty five degree temperature coming out of the earth.

That's pretty much consistent.

And if you keep that temperature, you keep that heat from going out.

That's one where I've got all the stuff in the book.

But the bottom line is this, I get into the major two issues, food and water.

That's what's going to cause problem.

There's a saying that revolutions starts on hungry's stomach.

Well that may be true, but chaos starts from thirsty people.

Yeah, yeah, might think that's really key.

Yes, Well, you know we're we've we're looking at a very dangerous time in history.

This is a cycle.

I believe that there is a cycle of about eighty years where institutions are taken down as major economic changes.

Was laid out by Strausser.

Now, yeah, fourth turning exactly, and it does seem to be lining up that way, and we're getting very close to the end of the fourth turning.

As they expected it and predicted it, they said about twenty twenty nine, So we're getting there, and it seems like all of the people making their plans for the new Dystopian technocracy also agreed with that time frame, because they all look to twenty thirty is the year they want to have this stuff out there.

So there's going to be an acceleration of change in these next few years, and certainly you see it.

You mentioned Colonel Douglas McGregor, and I guess he was talking about the various wars that they're trying to drag us into.

We've had this, they're continuing to try to escalate things with Ukraine, and as you look at France and the collapses that are happening there, they're having fires all over the place in terms of protest and he's on I think the fifth president that they've had there or prime minister, I forget which one.

I guess Macron has one title and the other guy's got another one.

But they just had the government fall yet again.

And so I think that's one of the reasons why you've got France and other places pushing so hard for war.

As Gerald Centi always says, when everything failed, they try to take you to war.

One hundred percent right.

It's always that's been the end of economic chaos, start a war and kind of cover the books up.

You know.

I've got a friend, an American friend that lives in France, and I get the low down and when it goes on the farms over there.

Quite an interesting character.

He's been just visited me over here, but interesting to hear their opinion of issues American and whatnot.

But anyway, rick Is fills me in from an American standpoint of what's going on.

I'll say this, you know, you talk about wars going on, so reminds me of the black and white movie The Bombers Flying in nineteen eighty four.

It reminds me that they're setting things up Eurasia.

It's almost like or Will wrote a book and giving you the blueprint of what they're going to do.

So it's it's quite amazing, I believe.

Also don't want to sound like a Bible thumper.

I want to push something first.

I've got a little book that I think people can get it for nothing, and it's called uh, it's called plus Nothing, p l Us Nothing.

It's an introduction to Jesus Christ.

And I go to I had a friend look at my car window and he sees uh, he sees a Bible there and he says, awsome, what's going on?

Ah?

I said, that's for my Bible steady group.

I said, I actually go to two of them.

He said, what two of the Bible groups?

Jack, what's happening?

And I told him maybe you ought to start looking into it.

You know, he's talking, he's very fatalistic sounding.

But the bottom line is this plus nothing book I carried around.

Mayo's got his little red book.

There's a little brown book I've called my little brown book.

You know.

But I do think we're coming to a fourth turning end of times.

There's just too many issues.

Is that Jack Lawson getting ages?

Is that Jack Lawson getting afraid of No, I'm not I want I would be missing my family and when I go on, but I'm kind of curious about what's down the road.

And you know it's it's it's something religion, as far as Christianity goes.

I've had my son who was Muslim and he describes that he's no longer, but he describes that religion.

And I have a Jewish friend and my wife's Dewey not she baptized Christian, but describe what they think of their religion.

And the one thing I believe this missing is the compassion and forgiveness they you know, outside of having those two and believing in those two things, I think you end up having a manual, not a guide book.

And that's what people want, you know, people want a list of things to do that can earn their salvation.

But when they fall short.

I mean, even if you make a dumbed down list, because we all know that we all make our to do list and then we all fail.

Even with a to do list on a regular basis, you always fail to fulfill up perfectly.

And so what do they do when they fail?

You know?

For us, for Christians, we know that it is Christ plus nothing.

I think is probably where that book is going.

It's what Christ has done for us plus nothing that we do is really going to merit this.

And so it is that forgiveness that is there, that ability to be able to know that you have that relationship and then to know that with that relationship you can fail and start again, fail and start again an infinite number of times.

But there has to be that basis there as to what do you do with your failures?

And that's Jesus Christ, isn't it?

Yes?

This plus nothing dot Com great resource.

The first page, the words were so profound.

I've read a lot of stuff.

I've read books on Hindu I've got a book on Judaism.

I've got the Torah and part of the Tawmood I don't buy into too much.

I've got a Quran I'm trying to read.

It's an interpretation English's very difficult to read.

But I've probably read half of it.

And I looked through this stuff, and then I look through the Bible, which I'm no scholar by, and I read things.

But the first page is this plus nothing dot com book.

I have memorized it.

The words were so profound and it means so much to me that, uh, I actually memorize it, and that's hard for me to do.

Well, what's the summary of what it says?

The first page?

There, you got it memorized, yes, second, well, summarize it then, since you've got to come up.

And it's basically stating the beginning of the world.

It says, in the beginning, before earth was made, the word was there, Yes, the word was with God.

The word was God.

Then it says he was there with God in the beginning.

Everything was made through him and nothing was made without him.

Beginning of light, yes, pardon the beginning of John Yes, yes.

Yeah, beginning of time.

Basically, in him there was life, and that life was a light for people of the world.

The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not defeated it.

That to me is basically you can fit it any religion you want.

But if you believe in God and you believe in our case and Jesus, that means a lot to me.

I think people have moved away from this.

I try to bring this up to some of my kids, and when you mentioned Jesus, it's like you might as well have done something evil in your lifetime.

They find out about it's like it turns people off.

But I don't think people should look at that.

Yeah, why is that?

What do you think?

I mean?

I had a friend who grew up in Japan.

They said, they don't swear using Buddha's name.

They swear using Jesus's name, and they're not Christians.

They don't know anything about Jesus.

Isn't that a time?

I think, David?

I think people.

I think people watch so much TV and on this entertainment industry.

I think for the last fifty or sixty years as humanized religion, I've noticed I'll see something about some uh you know, for all I know, some priests it's the killer or goofy things that may have happened, but there's such a small minutia of what really happens.

I see.

You know, you see the who was the Tammy Ray uh, the movie about the evangelist that was.

Oh yeah, they I can't remember his name, Tammy Fay or whatever.

Baker Baker, that was his name, Jim Baker.

Yeah, the prototypicalist.

You see his wife.

And I think people look at all religious movements as that.

I've always had a saying religion is the greatest thing to mankind untill they brought people into it.

You know.

It is those TV angelis really poisoned the well for a lot of people.

Absolutely did.

Yeah.

Yeah, but people, people need to do one thing.

If they do anything and walk away from listening to this, start storing some food and water.

If people don't think tough times are coming, believe me, they'll be just like Colonel McGregor says, they'll be on you before you know it.

And I think that's a critical issue.

I try to get this across to people.

I've convinced some to start.

The funny thing is, once they start thinking about it, they start accelerating in their effort to store food and water.

Yes, when you were saying that, what was he talking about.

Was he talking about just a natural societal breakdown or was Colonel McGregor talking about that in the context.

No, he's talking about.

What he's talking about an exacerbation and increase in the amount of conflict between polarized forces in this country.

And the other thing is is the threat of nuclear war.

Yes, I've also people want to go on there, I've got I went to nuclear warfare training.

I am no expert.

I have no more than the average bear knows about it.

I'm not going to tell you how to arm or disarm a nuclear bomb.

But the bottom line is I never set one off, So I guess it's fairly good at what I did.

And I did I did this for I did this for fourteen months.

I actually got it radiated.

I believe I used to sit right on the bomb case while I was doing this some picking style, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't have a cowboy hat.

But anyway it and it didn't you know, it wasn't on an aircraft, it was in a silo.

But the I have in there the basics of how you can survive.

It's very if uns you're in a blast area, nuclear warfare is very survivable.

I've told people this and they laugh because I say the new nuclear weapons.

I work in the old dirty bombs, they were the first ones.

They come out with thermonucletarve in nineteen fifty nine.

But the new bombs are environmentally friendly, that's what they call they're green bombs.

They're actually designed the material after the explosion are designed to decay at an accelerated rate.

Well, and then you have the kinetic weapons like the hypersonic missiles that because of the kinetic energy there, they don't need to have as big an explosive warhead there, the damage that they can do, and how indefensible our Western systems are against that.

Both Russian and China have the hypersonic weapons.

It is I think just hatred and contempt of their people for the leaders in NATO be doing what they're doing.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, it's unbelievable how they've subjugated France.

Germany is basically France England.

Yeah.

I mean there's the Prime Minister of England standing up and people complaining about massive immigration, knifings, groomings, raping women, and he says it doesn't matter what you think.

Yeah, well where we'll see where they go.

But I don't.

I think it's far from down there.

And a lot of English people they are bulldogs.

That's used to be their symbol, the bulldog.

They are bulldogs and some of the toughest people I've ever run into.

I mean, they just don't quit.

But their leaders have absolute contempt for them.

And I think, you know, when we look at the issue of World War three, I think that the leaders of France, Germany and the UK would like nothing better than to have a massive attack, to have massive casualties against their own people, because their own people are their enemies.

Yeah, I don't think.

My belief is I don't think you'll see tactical nuclear weapons.

That is another Pandora's box.

Once it's opened.

I've got a saying there is no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon.

Low yield weapons like that, you can use a thermobaric bomb.

I'm one of the few people alive that witnessed the explosion of a thermal of a thermobaric bomb, which is a fuel air bomb.

It's a close cousin to a nuclear bomb from the effects and I saw that firsthand.

That's probably something they'll use rather than but it puts a mushroom cloud out and I'll tell you what.

I was eight hundred maybe six hundred yards from it, and I'll never ever forget it.

So you know we're in We've got a lot of dangerous things going on with the bottom line, if you want to know how to survive nuclear fall out, whatever there will be, I've got a whole chapter on it in the book.

It's it's on my website.

I put that out there because I want people to know, and it's part of an article written by physicians for self Defense and Shane O'Connor out of KI for you, and it'll tell you what to do to prepare.

Bottom line is a couple days three days in the center of your house, keeping the air circulation from happening, and you can walk out the door and it'll be low enough Renkins, which is the measurement of radiation that you can survive it.

This is not like Chernobyl.

Chernobyl was a leak of radioactive material continuing to emit and put Gama rays out.

This is an explosion.

The explosion, things burn up, are decay, and there's a big difference between these.

But bottom line is that's there.

There's a lot of.

Things, and the greater threat, which is what you address in your book, is the complete destruction of infrastructure.

Right there's no power, there's no food coming in, and you've got roving gangs of people.

That's the bigger threat that is more likely to happen.

And actually, you know, if we have I was talking about this earlier.

Heritage Foundation was wargaming.

So what if we have a conflict with China over Taiwan?

What might Chin to do?

They point out, they might do a lot of things that could not even be directly traced to them.

There would be a tax on our infrastructure, on our water supply, our electricity, many other things like that.

And just look at how chaotic that would be in this country.

You want to ask, I've got another.

Question.

I'm looking at you at the table of contents in the Civil Defense Manual, Volume one, and I see chapter six.

You know, the reality of a catastrophic event in chapter seven, the mental state needed to cope with a catastrophic event.

And I think that's something that I'd like to hear more about, because again, we in America live a very, very a sheltered, soft life.

You know.

We see these things from a distance online, and I think that can fool some of us into thinking, well, we've witnessed this, we could handle it.

But the reality is always going to be so incredibly different, and it's going to be something unlike anything we've ever experienced.

And I'm just wondering if you could tell people a little bit of what you think they would need in terms of mentality and mental to deal with, what would happen.

Number One, I've got to get their nose out of their iPhone.

I'm not a regression.

I'm not what do they call it in communism, not a reactionary.

But the bottom line is I got rid of my iPhone and got a flip phone.

Why it was too interrupted, my focus on everything too much.

Yes, I'll get your nose out of your phone and start looking people in the eye when you're talking to them.

Uh.

The mentality to survive is a four.

I did box.

It's it's got your survival mentality, it's got your training, it's got your equipment that you have.

And the bottom line is, if any of those two sides fall in you, you don't have a survival mentality.

You have got to want to survive for yourself, but as much as for yourself, more so for your your family and friends and people.

Read all kinds I've I've been in situations.

I probably shouldn't be walking around the planet anymore, by God's good grace.

And that's all I can figure.

By all the things I went through, I managed to get out of situations, but it was also dogged determination.

I don't know.

Maybe maybe I got toilet trained too early.

I don't know what caused this.

Either that or I did too much butt hard work on a farm.

But I just didn't let go until I got out of something.

And there were times where I almost gave up.

But the survival mentality, you got to want to survive.

If you read the very first story in the book, you'll get into a part that says about a society less than thirty five years ago that absolutely went totally to hell and people ended up living like animals, and you'll tell or in there.

The guy that wrote the story let me print it, a guy be named Selko Selco.

He's one of the most well known people in the survival In preparedness, he said that a lot of people just died initially in the first couple of months.

They lost the will to live because their society was it had to disintegrated.

No water, they didn't want to put up with us, They'd rather die.

There will be a lot of people that'll die that way.

I've had theories put to me that people with guns are going to round, go around and take food and they're going to be killed off.

No, I don't think so.

I think the majority of them gangs, and they'll be not just criminal gangs.

There'll be gangs of people that gather together for strength to survive.

This is why I push a neighborhood protection plan, getting to know your neighbors and working together with your neighbors.

But if you don't have the survival mentality, you don't buy the book.

If you can't get that, you're not going to survive.

That's the long choy.

The other thing is along with the survival mentality again is the preparedness, the food and water big, big things.

Fire Arms come with it because it's the most efficient way to defend yourself.

So yeah, yeah, answer you, yeah, and we go back and look at it.

I always think about the term outlaw, and of course that was somebody who had done something that was outside of the law of the community, so they were ejected and that was a big deal because now you are outside of the protection of that community.

I think that that's what we're looking at, you know, going back to that, it's a community of self protection that is there.

And you know, we don't really think government has not really been about protecting us.

I'm talking about that early in the show.

It's about protecting their agenda and themselves, and so we don't really think about that.

But if you create a community and you've got some great tips and pointers on how to do that, the dues and the don'ts of doing that, and considerations from somebody who's done it, and if you don't have a community there that you've put together, you're not going to be able to survive on your own.

Very important.

I'd like to end with this.

This doesn't come for me, comes from a trauma management person, very knowledgeable.

I've read quite a bit of the information that put out.

This is why people become victims now of an an your audience out there feels any one of these fits them, then they've got to start changing course.

And number one, it won't happen.

Number two, it's going to happen, but not to me.

Number three, it's going to happen to me, but it won't be that bad.

And the number four it happened to me, but there was nothing I could have done about it.

Anyway, that's probably the last thought going through people's mind when the lights go out.

So yeah, anyway, that's a great summary.

It really is.

Yah.

As a matter of fact, you know, along those same lines, when I talk about how they're gonna take away all private cars from everybody, I remember going to an automotive show in Austin and reporting on it, and I talked to people that were there, were the classic cars, and you know, these re real gear heads modifying their cars and how much they loved it and everything.

And I talked to them and almost to a man, they all said, yeah, they're going to outwalk cars, but it's not going to happen in my lifetime.

And it was even the young kids were saying that kind of thing.

It's the kind of a denial that we tell ourselves, so we have to prepare for that.

You know, these people were uniquely prepared to be able to keep their cars going.

But still, you know, when we look at this, that is the key thing.

Yeah, I don't live this doom a gloom thing.

I mean, somebody told me, you know, you're not enjoying your return and I said, no, I'm living like I normally live.

I write books though about this, and I said, what am I supposed to do?

Dye my hair black?

My nineteen sixties muscle car, a convertible, drive around and you know, to the Beach Boys songs, and.

You got the stereotype.

As a matter of fact, that's happening here in Gatlinburg and Pitchingforde this weekend and the.

Baby wedding that guy you're describing all over the place, tens.

Of thousands of five years old.

Again, No, that's not me.

I love my grandkids, kids, very lucky.

God's given me some grace when it comes to them.

I've got great kids and great jobs.

Yes, thank you so much.

It is such an excellent resource, and I can't recommend it highly enough.

Jacklowsonbooks dot com Civil Defense Manual.

Yes, go to jacklosson books dot com look at the Civil Defense Manual and check out what he's put up there for free already.

Thank you so much, Jack, Thank you Jack.

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