Navigated to Libya, China, and the Outlaw Ocean

Libya, China, and the Outlaw Ocean

June 25
59 mins

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The ocean is vast, beautiful, and lawless. Thousands of miles from any coast, power belongs to those who seize it.


On this episode of Angry Planet, journalist Ian Urbina stops by to discuss the Outlaw Ocean Project and the second season of its incredible podcast. Urbina and his team of investigative journalists are telling stories about human rights, labor, and the environment on the vast swaths of the planet covered in water.


  • The hidden cost of the seafood supply chain
  • Why the ocean is such a lawless place
  • “Crimes at the intersection of environment and human rights.”
  • Libya is “hell on earth” for migrants
  • Aliou’s journey to Libya
  • How Europe enables Libyan militias to police its borders
  • The migration to slavery pipeline
  • A team of journalists at gunpoint
  • Life on a Chinese squid fishing vessel
  • Low tech and high tech reporting gets the job done
  • “That is what life is like in that niche of hell.”


Listen to the Outlaw Ocean Podcast


Inside a migrant detention center in Libya


China: The Superpower of Seafood

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