Episode Transcript
Let's go by Forgotten Hollywood.
I don't look like I'm not wearing anything.
Hi, everybody, it's me James Lodge Junior, the CEO and founder of JLJ Media, and this has Forgotten Hollywood one of our top five shows of all time.
I think, I don't know that's for sure, but it is one of top five shows every year.
It was number one last year.
It's just a huge hit for us.
And so we're doing an audio and video version for our year end wrap up show, and I get to actually get to welcome this person who actually I welcomed down to my channel, who brought us a great show, and that is Doug he.
Speaker 2S Well, thank you, James.
It's always a pleasure to come on and talk about Forgotten Hollywood, but it's also a pleasure to have gotten to know you over the last I can't believe that in February it's going to be six years that we've been doing this.
We've known each other a little bit longer than that with some other work that we were doing prior to that, but February is going to be six years.
We're going to have over four hundred episodes.
Sometime early in January of twenty twenty six, and you know, I really have a lot to owe to you for taking a chance on this.
We've told this story many times on this podcast and some other circles that we're in that we wasn't one hundred percent sure what this show was going to be for us.
You took a chance.
We always joke now it's funny, but the logo of the name and whether the genre was going to have anything of interest for some people.
But here we are going on six years later, and I don't know what the numbers are, but I think we're over one hundred and twenty some thousand downloads over six years, almost four hundred episodes.
So I'm very humbled and blessed, and more importantly, I got a to meet a great friend out of the process.
And I know you come to Indiana from time to time.
I'm still working to try to get out to LA to see your territory and your turf.
But we know that's going to happen one of these days, and you know, maybe twenty twenty six is a year.
Speaker 1Yeah, so folks, I will have the numbers and everything, so we will tell you the numbers.
But yes, it's uh, the nucleus of all this began for me.
For those who don't know this, who have not watched it for our anniversary specials or anything, was I was with a company called Afterbus TV and they went out of business at the pandemic, And so I had said, I almost taught my own network.
I was obviously a crazy person and known what I was talking about.
And now nearly six years later, I have over ninety shows, and it just it's the act of the thing has got me awards and the whole thing.
It's crazy.
And as we're recording, this is right for Christmas and before the right breadt the end of the year, and so my other shows are very but we just say goodbye to for the year.
And I always got emotional saying goodbye for the year, and just and just talking about how successful those shows are.
Also, you have a million choices, you have a million billion choices in podcasts.
So the fact that our podcasts like this one are actually having success, I just smile and bow my head and just keep moving forward.
I just I just, I mean, I mean, we're two old guys yep, who started later in life in this and literally I was fifty years old when I started this and he's a little younger than me, but at the time, but we're both down in our fifties and we're having success and just it's a great thing of it doesn't matter how late you start, and it also you don't know where someone's gonna go.
We've had some other successes to you, and that's another story on the channel.
One third of my channel basically is for Indiana.
I can.
I've been there twice.
I can believe that.
But the thing, the thing that kills me is that with this show, because this is about this show.
This was the nucleus of all of our endeavors outside of audio dramas we were doing.
We were doing auto dramas together and then this came out and who knew that classic Hollywood?
But I had no idea there was a huge market for it.
And we have several shows I cover this now, including so I could classically Tammy govea Hollywood he Spotlight which I host and have you heard of your I host so, but we had no idea of how it still leaves to charge out of all those shows, I had no idea that there was a huge market out there of nostalgia, right right, I mean, I mean you know this now, te because you've seen all the books you're getting and the invitations of things, and it's just it's crazy, right.
Speaker 2Oh it is.
You know when I first started getting books from the publisher and I told James the story that my wife was like, Oh, that's that's really cool, and that's what an honor.
Now I'm getting shipments of books, uh, sometimes every day a book, and her attitude has shifted greatly to thinking, Oh, that's really neat one an honor too?
What another book?
James has seen my my little library, and I know he's got a library too, and and but no, it really is nice that that that the publishers reach out.
Sometimes we reach out to the publishers, but a lot of times publishers and or authors are reaching out to us.
And I think that's a great sign.
That kind of shows that I'm just going to use the word in importance.
Uh what what people value this show?
Are we perfect?
No?
But we try to, you know, get the word out.
I'm a big fan of a believer that we're only one generation away of losing a lot of this knowledge and this information and what we can do our small little part, Uh, to be able to preserve and just kind of spread the word is is what what we do here at Forgotten Hollywood and j OJ Media.
And I'm proud to be a part of the team.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Just it's just it's it's also a test for people out there, consistency.
We started out as once a week, diagnoed up to two times a week, which had and will work for himself of course.
Uh, but also it just it just consistency.
So people see it all the time.
People will so he mention me or hear and say where's the episode and they come out and say, well, can we out to say whatever?
Things like that.
Also the fact that people pr people and book press and colleges and universities are coming to you and saying, I have this thing here, I have this, so I have that.
It's just it's it's so it's it's amazing.
It's completely it's completely amaz.
Speaker 2Way it really is.
And uh, you know, I don't want to start naming all the publishers because I forget one and I don't want to put anybody out and uh, but they're all great.
Uh some of the some of you are going to know and recognize others or maybe some that are are smaller independent publishers, a lot of educational university presses.
I've been reaching out to us and and you know that's been really good.
Uh, And I hope by doing all this it moves the needle sells a few books.
I mean, we're not getting anything out of it personally here at I've forgotten how we're a jog media.
But you know what we're trying to do is, oh, I guess what we do get is a copy of the book and sometimes an advanced copy of it.
And so uh, it's really has increased our knowledge of what we do here on Forgotten Hollywood.
But I really hope it's moving the needle for the publishers and the authors because and I think James can attest to this as well, that authors don't get the big bucks that people think they get when it comes to writing.
A lot of it's out of the love and the labor of their love and being able to preserve some things.
Speaker 1But also we have some nice conversations.
We've had some nice conversations.
We've had some some of the some of the shows for just us as as the host, interviewers or whatever.
More darning stuff, right, just have a great conversation about some thing that we each We both like having comedy like we can talk about and I think that's one of the things why I do these shows period.
I like talking to people.
So I like talking to people and see what they have to say, and whatever the subject is, let's talk about it and let's have a good time.
And hopefully, I think I think it does.
I say hopefully, but I think it does translate to the listener who listens to it they feel our conversations.
Speaker 2Oh absolutely they do.
And you know, James and I both have had the pleasure of not only doing uh speaking with authors, but every once in a while we'll get a celebrity or a relative of a celebrity on there.
And I know that James covered one for me that I couldn't do earlier in the year.
I was a little jealous because it was from the eighties, Bernie.
Yeah, and the timing for me with my schedule just didn't work out.
And so and that's what's great working with James.
He's able to come in and pick that up and take I'm a little jealous because that was a great movie.
But that was a great interview that you had and was really thankful that we wasn't able to miss an opportunity, that you were able to help pick pick up that ball and run with it and be able to deliver a great interview for our audience and our listeners.
Speaker 1What we do at JAILJB not just for Doug with my other co host stuff.
We there's something of a gravitority college to try to figure it out.
Sometimes well of us can't do it, and I don't care.
I could go to the Emmys because I had got can pox.
Yes, as an adult.
Therefore it's crazy.
So another host filled in for me and they did a great job.
I was jealous.
I'm saying I wanted to go back to the Emmys.
But that's the whole point we think about jail j media.
The story, the person, the interview is most important.
How we get there is just secondary.
It's just whether and and he's done some stuff on some of my shows, like between the pages, he's done a few things over there.
We'll get to guess sometimes where like I think this guests were student for you than me, Like we just we're not jealous or envious.
We were jealous, but we're not, you know, we're not.
We don't on this channel.
Let's it's just it's okay, we got something, we got this person here, where's the best fit, how can it work?
Who can do it?
But let's get it done.
It's still all jail j media, right.
Speaker 2Yeah, we may get a little jealous because you get to interview somebody that I did invite some versa.
But it says them personal.
Speaker 1We know that.
Speaker 2At the end of the day, like you said, it's about listeners making sure we give good quality information out there to our audience.
And I think we do that and that's where the numbers kind of show.
And we wouldn't be going six years.
James would have pulled the plug a long time ago had we'd not been going in the right direction.
And you know, like James said, people they get concerned if we don't post at a certain time, you know, like where is that?
So that's another great thing is people are downloading the following and anticipating on Monday and Thursday regarding Hollywood, it's going to drop and and you know we do sometimes we have some technical difficulties just across the board, like everybody, when you give with technology, some of that thing's going to happen.
But for the most part, we're right there about ninety eight percent getting everything right out there on schedule.
Speaker 1Yes, now here are some numbers and these are so we're saying your end, but it's close to your end.
We have another weeks, but we could wait to do it, and just trying to do it now.
So just thing you know, some of these these are these are those.
I don't see them changing that drastically within the next two weeks unless something major happens them.
So I'm pretty much with this.
But here we go.
So we're headed towards six years, four hundred episodes, folks, that's kind of crazy.
In twenty twenty five, forgotten Hollywood did has done twenty eight thousand and eighty four thousand, twenty twenty eight and eighty four thousand downloads.
That to me is just amazing for a lifetime so far of one hundred and twenty five thousand, this little show that could has inn one hundred and twenty five thousand downloads without the host being a star like a star major star.
Uh, not always having a list celebrities on your shows.
This is having regular people and authors and somebody's just us talking that it's amazing.
It's considered a hit and we have people looking up for us, and it's considered a modest hit of for us, for us and up there in the in the whole world out there, so podcasting.
So congratulations, Doug.
That's really good.
It's crazy, it's pass where we're getting there.
And for jail jbs, you know, we're close to two million downloads in five years and too mini us also on YouTube and five years.
So I'm very proud of all of us.
Now we're gonna do some specific We're gonna do the top five episodes of the year.
I have first do some honorable mentions.
We're gonna kind of do a little commentary each morn not bring it up and so and Douglas know this because I just found out myself last night when I was doing the stuff.
So these are honorable mentions.
Okay, let's see.
Okay, that's my own handwriting.
Okay, for this year.
Some of the honorable mentions, of course, are we had the co founder of E Network, Yes, that E Network, Larry Namer.
He actually follows us, he fights, follows judging media everything.
He's like like Micha post there today.
That was a nice big get for us, so that the got we go we worked out it was it was the bomb.
Danny looked him.
Special mention to Don Sanders, our buddy who's been on several shows that have been hits for us on here.
I forgot how he's other stuff too.
Have forgotten Hollywood.
He's done several So I want your shouts into to done the most the most we so did we do some with video also forgotten.
Hollywood is a mainly audio podcast.
We've done a few video and our biggest selling video of the year, of course, is my interview episode through fifty six Katain Mary Stewarts, and that was the most commented on every Man on Earth our time period was commenting on its still beautiful.
She was so lovely.
I'm telling you it was a great, great interview.
We had a great time.
Speaker 2That's what the one is jealous on.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what he's yes that one.
We have two video too, sorry to audio from twenty twenty one that made the list this year.
We're talking four years ago.
There were episode thirteen, which of course I love the thin Man series of William Powell.
Oh yes, from May twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2Wow, that's that's been a while, and you know, William Powell with The Thin Men, Theorter series very popular.
I know my mother was a big fan of that, and I believe on Turner Classic Movies at least the last couple of years they've had a marathon on New Year's Day or throughout the year from that very popular series in terms of that.
So, yes, man, that's that's great to hear that something from very early on.
Speaker 1So episode two, Episode two Doris Day, Star of the Month.
So what's funny about that one is our format over the last going on six years, has changed a little bit.
So when we started here, it forgotten Hollywood.
We had a format whatever was, uh you know, the first episode of the month was going to be whatever Turner Classic Movies start of the month was, and it just happened to be Doris Day when we kicked it off.
And that lasted I don't know, James, maybe six months.
And then as we got more comfortable in this format, things got to change.
And then obviously we started getting more and more publishers sending it to us, and so we kind of changed that format just a little bit, you know.
But one thing that hasn't changed is the logo and really our structure.
We'd like to keep things to about twenty minutes.
I always tell my guests prior.
We do that for a couple of reasons.
One is I think people have a very short attention span and so it's a quick, easy listen that are in and out, especially if we had authors on.
I also like to say that we like to tease our audience, our listeners.
We're not here to read the book to them.
We want to tease them and say, hey, that's the book I want to go out and get.
So yeah, Doris Day, that's that's that's very interesting going back to episode two and how that format has changed over the years.
Literally, so these are the ones I did this year.
I had and everything that was what I've done, but I've done a few episodes this year and these are the successful ones.
At number twelve, this is my highest rate of all shows this year.
My highest rted was a message from me, and there were seventeen.
It was a message from me.
So whenever I come out to a message, I guess as may poplar.
But my highest rated episode that I actually did is at number fourteen.
The significance of the Beverly Hillbillies.
I remember I chose.
I remember you saw You're like, oh my god, and you liked it.
Yeah, you know, because I you know, I had read somewhere.
I grew up watching it myself.
Of course I had read somewhere.
It was the number one show for five years in a row in the country.
Like that's huge.
It was huge.
They were getting like fifty million people watching it, and it influenced the whole genre of television.
But then at the end of the sixties where they decided to give it of all that stuff.
Beverly Hill billiezs was one of the big ones that he was saying on top and we had left on top.
So that was a fun one day accentually.
Speaker 2Oh absolutely, And I'm like you, I remember watching the syndications reruns on that in terms of that, so it's always fun.
And it was a great fun comedy too.
I mean it was simplistic.
Speaker 1Yes, some other special mentions.
I did episode three point fifty Liza and Nelly.
That's the Springfield and the pitch Shop Boys, if you guys understand what that is later in life.
The petch Shop Boys the late ags ra nineties did albums and songs with those two ladies and brought them back to the charts.
So it's a little bit of forgotten Hollywood mixed with like modern day and so people love it.
Episode apparently uh and also episode three eighty five, the first black bitch on television Diane Carroll on Dice.
That's my recent on down Dynasty.
I had, I had, I had a time about that one.
I was like, she was Diane Carroll was a national treasure and literally it was.
It was a big thing for to be on the number one show in the country at that time and be, as you said, I'm black bitch.
So I love it.
Speaker 2Well, what was really interesting is so if for some reason I'm not able to come on and James guest host, I have no idea what's what's going to be be released.
I'm listening for the first time, like the rest of you and and the Eliza Minelli Pep Shop Boys.
I was like, what I mean?
That was when I saw that, I was like, oh, I've got to listen.
So I'm driving to work and I'm listening.
I'm like, oh, got it interesting.
That's that's really cool.
And then when I saw the other one and we had kind of talked about that, you know, like the first block bitch, and I was like, ahah, interesting, how is people going to take that?
But again, I think having done this now for six years and you've done it a lot longer, we kind of got an idea.
Speaker 1At least.
Speaker 2I hope we do a good feel of what our listeners want and what will they'll expect and what that accept And I think those prove that right there with the numbers that you're talking about right there.
Speaker 1Well, the thing is, you did a story about Maryland Chambers.
Folks look it up.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 1I did it on one of my other shows.
Have you heard of me?
I did this?
I did the story about the Filthy fifteen, which was Tipper Gore the fifteen songs.
She said, we're too explicit, And I think because we present them in a way that is really non threatening.
We present them in a way that's kind of clinical to we're telling you the story.
Yeah, I'm saying she's a bitch, and but you know we're not.
It's like those That's what I explained.
She right, she said that in interviews, I will be the first black bitch on television.
Why that was significant.
We tell the whole story were my lot of view, thestals are behind beings you were.
If you were there, you're like, oh my god, Like it's like we're telling you the story.
So I think that's why our shows can get away with some of this stuff, because we're not being salacious or telling or like vulgar for vulgar's sake.
It's like, no, there's a you know, the Maryland Chamber story is very if the book is really good, it's very fascinating.
Folks.
Yes, it talks about X ray rooms the seventies, but that's kind of the but Russ about how at one point they were huge in mainstream society.
It was a huge the story.
We're telling a story.
Speaker 2Well, and I think you bring up a good point on that one.
I think, if I remember correctly, you told me that we've got when you posted it, we got kind of flagged just because of the name.
And if you listen to that episode, there's nothing that we talk about there that's that's graphic or anything that shameful.
We're, like you said, we're telling the story the book if you read the book, completely different.
But just that name alone had the power to get flag by the podcasting gods, just with a, oh, these guys might be saying something.
So again, very proud of that episode.
There's nothing in there that we you know, like James says, we try to keep this family friendly and we're telling a story.
We're turning out a little bit of history.
We're not trying to make news.
We're just reporting that now, folks.
At number eight is the craziest thing.
Now, you cannot script yourself.
So at number eight of all shows are twenty twenty four, twenty five.
I'm telling you how to do this.
It's a tie.
Okay, it's two shows about the same person.
How many years apart?
Speaker 1It?
Wow?
Two years apart?
Wow.
So at number eight, episode three or four early Buster Keaton with Professor be Haven okay, and from from twenty twenty two episode one oh six author Kevin Maury on his book Third Act, a novel by Buster Keaty.
They take exact same amount of numbers at number eight two years aparts, two hundred episodes aparts everything.
It's it's it's it's that's so weird.
Speaker 2Well, it is weird and kind of crazy to think that you could do that, but it also goes to show you the power of some of these old film stars that they have and people are looking for new information, and even though they've been gone for many, many years, they still have that power when we're releasing something with that with a name that people just still can't get enough of.
Speaker 1Apparently, Buster Keeney is an a people are talk to people.
I mean that's that is a or if you're a film student or whatever that is.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's kind of like one of the Godfather's early comedy right.
Speaker 1So it's so funny that we had at number eight.
It's two shows, two hundred episodes apart, basically two years apart, both tied in the rate.
I can't I just can't believe that the fact that it shows for twenty twenty two is in the top ten.
Speaker 2It's crazy.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Absolutely, Okay, here's the top five, kids, here's top five at number five, Episode three seventy one criss Cross the making of Hitchcock's dazzling, subversive masterpiece and one of my favorite films of all time, Strangers on Training.
Yeah, that movie.
I saw that as a teenager with my mom.
I'm a Hitchcock fan.
First of all, he treated women horribly, of course in all his films, but but the ones of the man, you're fine, And that's such an interesting you know, you take out my I'm just thinking out my mother.
The whole thing is like, it's a whole weird tit for tat that goes wrong.
You know, they literally beat on a train against the whole it's it's such a good film, and I'm not surprised number five, that surprised, But it's also.
Speaker 2A forgotten film when it comes to Hitchcock and this films in general, I mean, I think most people, if you were to ask the average person on the street a hitch I think of Psycho, the Birds, rear rear window, Vertigo.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Carrie Grant Strangers on the Train, wonderful film, maybe one of his better ones, but yet one that gets gets overlooked.
Speaker 1I agree, I totally agree.
There are four episode my friend Johnny Carson with Howard Smith.
Speaker 2Yes, that was great.
Speaker 1That was great.
Speaker 2So how We're was a friend, He wasn't a movie star, he was just a neighbor of Johnny Carson, and his publisher actually had reached out to me and said, hey, would you be interested, And absolutely, as soon as I heard it was Johnny about Johnny Carson, I said, yes, I remember as a kid watching Carson.
He as far as I'm concerned, the great, the standard when it comes to late night comedy, that's own there.
Funny enough, he only did one film in his whole career, and he turned a lot of others down.
But yeah, when I heard Carson, he had they had me at Johnny Carson.
So I was like, yes, I don't know what the book's about, but yes, I want, I want it and I want to talk to him.
Speaker 1Yes it's a name.
Yes, at number three this year, he's been a resurgence of sorts.
There's been a bunch of many documentaries.
I was coming out about Lucille all Endeavor.
So at number three was thirty nine Desi Arnaz The Manner Events to Television with author Todd Spurden, and the thing is Wherever's realizing Desilu productions led mostly by Desi not loose the ball.
She was good too, but he was the one behind the scenes, the three camera everything.
It's because of him.
So the number three, but doesn't get the love that Lucy got.
She kind of stole the show.
And that's no disrespect to her or anything like that.
Again, just a fact in terms of that and I think you're right.
People are starting to there's been enough time past that maybe we can get an honest review of what's going on.
Yeah, so's go on at number two.
Yeah, not surprised.
Episode three forty five Judy Garland, The Voice of MGM by author Arthur Scott Broken.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, you know Judy Garland, I mean, what do you say?
I mean, obviously the Wizard of All is maybe Lewis.
Absolutely she had a Yeah TV show.
She had a beautiful voice.
Unfortunately, she had a very tragic end in a life that probably didn't in the way she wanted or we wanted her as well.
I think there was a lot of mistreatment by the studios with her early in her life that maybe have helped her down that path.
But yeah, Judy Garland is probably just as popular today as she ever has been.
Speaker 1Yes, I never won.
I never won.
Episode three twenty five B Steve McQueen the last interview with author author Rick Penn Krause.
That is your and I would guess that that's your number one show.
Speaker 2No, I would either that that's a kind of interesting.
You know.
Steve McQueen born in Beechgrove, Indiana, so a little Indiana tie there in terms of then.
But what was really interesting about that I had, basically, as James knows, with all of his shows, were out there constantly doing research and I stumbled upon Rick's book and set up an interview with him, and basically he walked me through what would become Steve McQueen's last interview and he wrote about that.
Uh.
And again, just probably in the last two weeks, I just saw the Steve McQueen and Paul Newman show with the Fire Department.
I got to you hiring infernos.
Oh, yes, yes, yeah, Steve the Queen and he just had a presence about him.
And I'm not surprised that, you know what, when he died, I think it was in eighty nineteen eighty eighty two, somewhere around in the vent you know, forty some years or fifty some No, forty forty yeah, yeah, forty forty years ago, and still has a presence.
When it comes to that, I think is just it just shows the king of cool who he really was.
Speaker 1Yes, so those those are shows.
Now we do more than just shows, kids, we do.
We also have books.
Yeah.
So I'm gonna tell you it was like it's like rebound hair writing.
I know, it's like it's like it's too much these books.
So we have four books.
There are series, we call them reference books, and I have one in front of one of my hands and it's called as the it's the favorite Christmas books yet.
But we have four books.
We have Favorite Business Movies, which is currently four hundred and fifth in comedy movies on Amazon, the Fair Christmas Movies, Favorite Legal Movies.
Then we have Favorite War Movies, which is currently number four hundred in movie encyclopedias.
So that's the War.
This is Christmas, the nice thick books.
It's mostly Doug and then I come in at the end and give my commentary.
There's a business money.
Speaker 2Yes, and you have the Christmas and this one here would be our legal book.
Speaker 1Yes, legal.
So we have those.
Will we do more?
Who knows, So stay tuned with that.
We're not sure.
But you can purchase these on Amazon, Kindle or pinnamac They are there for They're around sixteen to twenty dollars, not expensive.
Grab you grab a copy.
I've been pushing him this something, this, this, we have.
I think we sold a few.
I got to look at the thing.
I just got notification we sold some books.
So I don't know whose books we sold, because we have other books that we all kinds of books, but I just I've been pushing them recently saying well, I'll get your hot of a book.
So there is forgotten a how books.
They just basically reference books that you can check out and hear our opinions on what we liked in that in those genres.
And also there's a Facebook page we follow forgot how we teased?
You can check that out over there too, So we have several things.
So we we branched out a little bit, and who knows they could be forgotten Hollywood.
I don't know audio drops forgotten that.
It's like I have no idea that forgotten how to Saw.
We have few songs that we use for the show that made, so that's a newer edition this year too.
But I mean, who knows.
I mean, it's it's it's uh, it's Doug Wall continue giving you the quality episodes those one that were changed.
But we have rests out a little bit here and there.
I mean, who knows, I mean you've forgotten follow you shoulders books.
Speaker 2Like yeah, who knows?
You know?
This guy's a limit but you know again, I just want to thank all of our listeners.
Speaker 1And if you guys have a request.
Speaker 2Or stumble upon a book, or you're thinking of a forgotten quote unquote actor or actress or a composer or director, you know, let us know.
Go to our Facebook page content us.
That's how we've had some independent authors content us, and we're more than happy to uh to bring them on.
I do have to give a little bit of a plug here.
Sometime in twenty twenty sixth Ol Barrymore, the book for the University of Kentucky Press, will be out.
This is going to be very very special because I was asked to give a little snippet, so I had a advanced copy of the book.
It'll be coming out in sometime in January.
I don't have that date right right in front of me, but we're going to be tackling that.
I have a couple other books out that are not my books, but black I tell ya, that's another story.
Yes, that book is coming out on January thirteenth.
I've got an advanced copy of that.
So we got several others that's out there.
One that I want to try to do.
Now we try to do one at Halloween.
I believe it was where we did a cocktail, and this is consta Blanca Casablanca, the motion picture cocktails will always have.
Speaker 1Recipes.
Speaker 2What we did is I had a couple of friends.
Speaker 1I was hoping.
Speaker 2James was going to be in town for that one, but his travel just wouldn't allow it.
But we were filming and making different cocktails based on recipes from the book, and then we talked a little bit about the book.
That was a very fun episode and maybe we can have some more of those in twenty twenty six.
I know Dan Shack was our bartender and may drink said I would tell a little bit about the story and then we would judge if we like that drink or not.
So it was kind of fun.
So we're always looking for different things to do here.
Speaker 1I've forgotten Hollywood.
Well yeah, and the next thing too is we want to expand to live events and red carpets.
I'm in La I'm in Hollywood, so I guess I'll know this.
He's near I'm in Hollywood.
I'm going to do my best to get down to some of them.
They are.
There are some great events happening here all over Los Angeles some historic stuff, so I one day we'll get from too.
But when I'm trying to start, I'm getting I'm starting to get the notifications.
Now I've been hooked into the uh the art Art to Course society, which is big here in Los Angeles and do a lot of stuff in the thirties and forties.
My friend Nelson Aspen who's doing stuff on the Titanic and all that.
So I'll be like, we're I'm starting to get into that those circles.
I went to one of the episodes I did on the show was called a store about Forgotten Hollywood in Hollywood Point Books.
I went there and did a video and showed it.
So I'm like, so I'm going to try my best to be a correspondent for him and add some more forgotten Hollywood content because I'm literally in Hollywood and so I'm learning there's some stuff that's forgotten.
I'm actually going to for my show to the Spotlights.
I talked to someone who was an architect in a movie about architect documentary and several of his name was Shindler, like shbody's name is Shindler.
Also he did some famous works and of some of his inspirations were Frank Lloyd Wright.
Of course you did the homes over the Midwestern stuff.
But anyway, so we found out one of the homes is in my hometown of Inglewood, California, near my house.
So I'm going in person in two weeks to film the house and everything.
So that's what I'm doing.
I'm just trying.
I'm trying to get into I'm trying to get into all this and start to like, uh, expand it, because it's anything we don't want the show becomes stale.
We don't, but we don't.
People like a formula.
There's a formula.
People like it.
Not Gola Deva from that too much.
But Doug and I are are committed open to just adding new stuff to this, extras and things because just you know, no, I mean just it's good for you guys, and it's we won't be your place for your one stop shop for forgot Hollywood.
That's what he wants.
Speaker 2Absolutely, And again I want to thank all of our listeners because without you, our listeners, what we do wouldn't be uh wouldn't even be possible.
I mean, if nobody's listening, we'd just be talking to ourselves.
So that wouldn't be very fun.
And I also think that you guys must be out there purchasing books based on some of the books that we bring to you, or publishers would still be coming to us asking if the authors could come on.
We love that.
We really appreciate that.
And again I also want to say a personal thank you, not only to James and jo Ja Media, but my friend James for taking a chance on me.
God six years ago and here we are going stronger than ever and I'm hoping that we're able to do this for another six years plus.
But James, thank you for everything that you do on your end.
You're really the talk of this production and without you, a lot of the things that.
Speaker 1We do wouldn't happen.
Well, I just say thank you bring us to my channel.
You helped change my life in many ways.
I'm still still changing.
So I appreciate you and all that you've done to this channel and your determination.
We think a lot of like we work really well together.
You're just you're so I love it.
So it's like I said, it's a it's a match made in heaven.
So in media media.
Speaker 2And the thing is, uh, I also brought him to a part of Indiana that I don't think he.
Uh, I would have found on a map anywhere.
Uh and uh A lot of friends that I know are now his friends.
And when he comes to town, he's there to see me for a few minutes, but he's got other people, yes to see.
Speaker 1So it's weird hoving talk about howboud I talk to you from your party Indiana every day.
It's it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 1And yes, it's it's yes, and it was it was someone's birthday.
Charging's birthday here Dan, It's like, oh my gosh, birthday.
It's just it's I talked talking to you with me.
I'm like this this this eight one chi area code or what it is.
I'm like, what is that?
Oh that's Indiana, Okay, got it?
Mix my cousins.
My cousin shouts, my cousin Sheila, who's in Tara Hoe.
It was her birthday and she's posting things.
I'm like, I know where that is or I've been there or I know what that is.
And my cousin and my other cousin who's out there, who's at Charlie's.
So you know, it's it's just look man.
So yeah.
So it's just it's it's weird.
I got family there, I got family there and quotes now and so shout to Missy of course everybody, but just so it's just crazy.
My life has been changed.
Also, this is an example I think for everybody to know that partnerships come out of nowhere, out of anywhere, from anywhere, with anybody, and that's kind of that's the that's a good thing about life.
Just you don't know what's gonna happen, and that's happening now.
It's good.
We have a good time.
We love it and glad that you like it.
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Look for the logos behind me if you're watching us by Me.
There's a couple of Forgot hollywoods, but they're not any of the one was a religious mooy thing which stopped like three years ago and the other one.
I think he's going on by by show what he's doing.
But we went about this one here looking for the logo.
You'll see it, Jay, look for jail J Media.
You'll see that's the right one.
So going strong we are.
Speaker 2And for any you know, the other thing I would say is anybody that's looking to get into podcasting or want to start a podcast, James is the guy that you want to reach out to.
And I mean this sincere is that you know, he took a chance on me when I was pitching this idea to him and I remember he's like, hmm, I just I don't know, but he goes, you know what, done.
We can always cancel it at a later date.
We need diversity on this channel.
And six years later, he still hasn't told me no.
Speaker 1So I find out that we call the Hesse effect.
It's all good, it's all successful.
We'll take it.
I'm not say no, It's all good.
Everyone, Thanks for listening, have a rest of your twenty twenty five.
We'll see you in twenty twenty six.
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