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Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements Disobey Bridger

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Speaker 1

And I invited you here.

I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

And I said, no, guess, your own presences presence enough.

Speaker 2

And I already had too much stuff.

So how do you dare to surbey me?

Speaker 1

Hi?

Speaker 3

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Welcome to I said, no gifts.

I'm Bridger Wineger.

We're here in the studio.

What's going on?

Los Angeles is infested with rats more than any city in the United States.

Apparently we tried to have Kathy the rats are on last year.

She refused or didn't get the memo.

I don't know what happened, but maybe we can get her out here.

It's just my ultimate nightmare.

What else is going on?

My mom was in town over the weekend.

I went to an estate sale and it was just full of boring garbage.

I'm glad that person's dead.

And I think that's everything I saw that Christin Sewart has kind of a blunt bang.

Speaker 4

Now.

Speaker 3

I saw that online most recently, and I don't know if it's working or not working for her.

Who cares?

Is there?

Oh?

Patreon?

Patreon continues to exist.

The entertainment industry is on fire.

Join us at Patreon.

There's all kinds of wonderful.

I'm doing too much work over there.

Now We've got an episode with my mom.

I mean, that's what people wanted, and so I did it, and then I did.

Speaker 5

A sleep tape.

Speaker 3

I mean, I'm doing The amount of work is probably wrong.

So come over join us.

We'll have a good time.

Is there anything else in my notes?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 3

I don't think so.

No, I think I've covered everything.

My mom was in town and we had a nice time.

We went to Huntington Gardens.

If you're ever in Los Angeles, or if you're ever a parent in Los Angeles, that's a few hours.

Okay, so let's get into the show.

I love to day's guests.

It's Hayes Davenport and Sean Clement's.

Speaker 5

Bridger Hill, no gifts.

Thank you so much, thanks for having us.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it feels like it's been a very very long time coming.

Speaker 5

You You reached out at some point and it just got it got washed out to see and all over on all the going.

Speaker 4

So many emails tend to do more and more.

They just you know, and I think we responded.

I think it was like, yeah, we'd love to do the show, and then it was like, okay, let's get into scheduling, and then we were like no, just is it just wanting to do the show enough.

Speaker 3

I actually kind of think that is as long as the person was like, oh I would, in theory do the show.

Speaker 5

Sounds good.

Obviously I'm not gonna do the.

Speaker 3

Show the work itself, Yeah, but it's the thought that's nice.

Speaker 5

Tell me about the rats, Bridger.

Speaker 3

The rats are apparently more than New York more than New York.

Okay, I don't know how many rats.

Speaker 5

Larger land area.

Speaker 3

That's true.

That's where we get into some weird it's new numbers on the rats new numbers.

Apparently it's all over the news, okay.

Speaker 5

Because they started they started to put my news.

Speaker 4

From the news as I'm sure we'll talk.

Speaker 3

About you look to friends.

Yeah, family, I come here, you come to the well making the right choice.

Speaker 4

Anything utility from the news to you, I go, this is probably what they're the blunt bang and all that.

Speaker 3

You know, have you had any experiences with rats in La?

Speaker 5

We had, I mean they we had rats outside.

Okay.

They call them tree rats.

Speaker 3

Which is way worse than a regular rat.

Speaker 5

They sounded big.

You could really hear them rustling.

Speaker 4

We got we got them.

I mean, they're definitely so if you're in my backyard, there's like our neighbor has fruit trees and the rats are in there, and then there's like wire like you know, like electric wires or whatever that they walk across.

But we had this cat that he was like a feral cat who lived across the street, and I guess had decimated enough of the rats population there that he started coming over to our yard, and god, he used to just go to town on the rat's He has since passed, But man, I loved that cat and he would you'd be you know, we had a fire pit and something I'd be entertaining.

I'd have friends over in one sitting, one conversation, he'd bring you three four rats as a little presentation of like I'm earning my keep here.

Speaker 3

You know how big were the rats?

Speaker 4

Oh they varied in size.

Speaker 3

Yeah, healthy rats.

Speaker 4

Yeah they looked Oh they looked like they were thriving, but they weren't.

They weren't like gigantic.

Speaker 3

But yeah, we have some some sort of cat colony is happening around our area.

And I'm not going to stand in the way.

Why, I mean, they're taking care of my least favorite creature.

The rats are the cats.

Speaker 5

The rats.

Speaker 3

I haven't seen it knock on wood.

No rats near my home.

But I've experienced plenty of rats in la at restaurants.

Speaker 5

Across at a restaurant, it ran across your foot.

Speaker 3

Well those are separate exposed in New York.

Yeah, foot in shoe outside of Ralph's, Okay, and then at a restaurant, will have to beep it out.

But and of course there are rats.

Every location of this restaurant has rats.

Speaker 5

You know what it is.

They have kind of and we will bleep it out.

But they have kind of a natural vibe in there, you know.

I think it's sort of designed to be like infused with the with the outdoors.

Speaker 4

People that work there seem like they may have a relationship with the rats.

And it's not you know, there or bad, but they seem like they would be open.

Speaker 3

To creating rats playground.

Speaker 5

And you saw one there.

Speaker 3

Yes, okay, so inside I've been.

First of all, I say we've beated thet so I'll just say it's a horrible restaurant.

Speaker 4

We'll have to bleep it.

But yeah, it's really not a good place.

And it comes up if you're just looking at like open table, like can I go somewhere near here that seems like okay, like sort of nice.

You'll end up there and you'll go, how did this happen to me?

Speaker 3

Again?

It's airport food.

Yes, it's very airport bar food.

And there are rats in the trees.

I've been to two different locations, never my idea, and both times there have been rats.

Speaker 5

They shouldn't have trees and.

Speaker 3

Don't yeah, trees all over the place and food picked one or the other.

Speaker 4

The table, the wood is for the table.

You shouldn't be alive and just hanging out.

Speaker 3

I don't want live wood near my food.

Speaker 5

No dead would have you ever read?

Speaker 4

So there's an interesting article about the rat population specifically in the Palisades from a few years back.

And there was a woman who was actually one of our first show runner, David Goodman's neighbors, who's like an older widow who had just been feeding the rats in her backyard.

And so there ended up being like thousands of them that would congregate in this yard, and ultimately the neighbors started to realize like, oh, we are ground zero for like a massive, massive portion of the rats in Los Angeles.

And then I think she passed away, and then that yard just had these rats that started spreading through the neighborhood.

But it's an interesting article.

I'll see if I can find it for you.

Speaker 5

They probably vaporized her as soon as she went.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, god, don't you think No, I don't think she was decomposing naturally.

I think the rats were helping out.

Speaker 5

It was like these times little foxes.

Speaker 3

Yes, exactly, just this old woman's skeleton lying in the grass.

Do we know what was she feeding the rats on purpose?

Or was she like all animals?

And then just happened to be rats.

Speaker 4

I think she ultimately was like, knew it was rats, Like it wasn't just she was putting food out.

She was like, I don't know, like people feed the pigeons or the you know.

She was just like, Yeah, these these animals are coming to me, these furry animals, and I'm just gonna kind of give them what they're looking for.

Speaker 3

What a legacy, yeah, and what a prank.

Speaker 5

But You've had a lot of experiences for someone that seems to have a particular antipathy for these things.

I don't think I've ever had a single one run over my foot.

Speaker 3

I'm drawing them to me.

Yeah, I was walking to when I used to live down in mid City, walking to Ralphs.

One ran up the curb and over my foot.

I then spent an hour in Ralphs.

I didn't need groceries in the first place.

Speaker 4

It seems like Hayes is saying it's time for some accountability.

Speaker 3

On my part.

Yes, yeah, I feel like that I'm probably not doing what I should be doing to avoid rats.

I mean I've run into them in New York.

I've opened a garbage can to have a rat run out.

I mean, I don't actually don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 4

This is where we like flash back and we realized that the sign that you thought said ralphs just said rats.

I said, yes, that you were going two rats.

Speaker 3

There's a chance, there's a chance where I have a few crumbs in my pocket.

I'm doing something.

I am to blame here.

But then there's another restaurant in Silver Lake.

I love their food, but the parking lot was just jumping rats.

So I let them know, and they said, the city opened up the street and the rats came out, and there's nothing we can.

Speaker 5

Do covered up.

Yeah, they're not supposed to open the lid of the streets.

Speaker 4

I learned something interesting the other day about why you know, when they open up like a trench in the city and it stays open forever.

You probably know this already why it stays open so long?

Right, So if like, let's say whatever, the Department of Water and Power needs to open the street for some reason and they dig out this huge trench and they open it, every other public works to apartment has a window of like sixty days to decide if they want to go in that hole and do something too, So they so like they finish their work in two or three days.

But they have to leave it open because there's like an open ticket where it's like, do you guys have anything you want to do, because we don't want to open another hole a month from now, right, And then I think often no one does.

No one probably even sees it, but they just leave it open for a long time.

All the rats come out.

Speaker 3

It kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5

The list of infrastructure replacements is like really really long, yeah, and mostly they just wait until it explodes, and it's like, you know, whatever, the water main is like shooting in the air, shooting because some of those pipes are like one hundred years old, and so yeah, if one that makes sense, if one's open.

Speaker 4

Why not make it a hundred It was like I was gonna like.

Speaker 5

For a pipe away for a pipe pipes.

Of course, they're a hundred years in this guy's house.

One hundred years.

Speaker 4

It feels like you're not invited to your wheels like that.

Speaker 5

It feels like a fresh pipe to this.

Speaker 3

But why not make a list of people who want to get in the hole before opening the hole and say, you know, line up, let's all do that, rather than open the hole and then talk to him everybody go hog wire.

Speaker 5

You got to get over there and open up that hole.

You don't have time to make a list.

Speaker 4

I think when they are opening the hole, they are doing it and sort of an emergency s duty where it's like everything is exploding down here.

Speaker 3

The one hundred year old pipes are one hundred year old pipes.

If you had any sort of pipe issues in your homes, what like, what if you had to do any major repairs.

Sure, I'm worried about this in my home.

Speaker 4

Well, when we got our house, which is over one hundred years old, which of course the oldest thing in the world be Haze ancient history, the electrician came in and he was like, so the wiring is the original wiring.

It was kind of wiring called knob and tube, which is like that the wires are not insulated basically, and he was like, so your entire attic is just open fire sitting on insulation.

Speaker 5

Oh my god, So it just you're just.

Speaker 4

Begging for fire.

And so they were like, you have to completely redo like every element of the electrical you know, infrastructure of your home.

And then of course like all the codes have changed, and so it means like you have to like add all these outs, you need these special whatever kinds of fuses and all that, and it's still never you know, to this day, if you turn on the microwave in the kitchen, it seems like there's like a lightning storm happening inside the house.

So you have to like microwave things with the lights off, and then you because the wirings all screwed up.

Speaker 3

That to me, I would just have to I would just ignore.

I would just say I would rather the house burn down than spend all that money.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean maybe we should have just let the house burn Yeah.

Speaker 5

Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 3

I don't know what am I doing for anybody?

That's a great question.

You know, what have you tuben up to outside of thinking about my situation with the rats?

Speaker 5

And gosh, I mean we've been we've been just podcasting our little noggins off you break.

Speaker 4

Up Patreon, PTSD.

Speaker 5

Patre Patreon always comes like whimpering next to the table, doesn't it.

Speaker 4

They always want to.

Speaker 3

Scrap throw them something, some little piece of meat.

Speaker 5

We we've been doing our show a long time, bridge and so of you.

Speaker 3

I mean not as that you have ten years, probably longer.

Speaker 5

I mean probably probably ten years definitely more.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but you're just getting into the hat game.

Speaker 5

Well, I mean yes, over the scope of the show, yes, and gosh, I mean I thought, should we just bring that it?

Speaker 4

Should we have just brought a Yeah, that's whatever, That's what everyone they're expecting.

Speaker 5

You can't give these things away.

Speaker 3

No, no, no, no, you're making money.

Speaker 5

It's our business or such your lively.

Yeah, you have hats that uh hat pack hat Biz is it still hat pack that bis I'm sure we still have that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think so hat Pack.

Speaker 5

Producer, the same one that biffed the scheduling.

Sure, like a funny U R L or something.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we couldn't get just hat pack.

Like if you just google like hat pack, it's like spelled pac and it's some other you know, I don't know, evil, some sort of right wing company or something you're not giving money too, I don't know, but or left wing.

I mean, everybody's bad, but you're at both sides, just like it's just all extreams so much extreme damn fucking clown car both lanes.

Speaker 5

But the hats.

Yeah, I really generated a sense of community.

Owning the hat offers not just a hat, but also membership in the hat pack.

Speaker 3

Oh, I didn't realize there's a members.

Speaker 5

An exclusive community.

Yeah, so people that own the hat and they see each other in the hat, they can they can connect, they can bond if they want to.

Most of the people in the hat are not like connectors in that way.

You know.

Speaker 4

I believe that loneliness epidemic.

Speaker 3

There is aleliness.

Speaker 4

And there's also a male listener base for the show.

Sure, and so we just thought like, oh, we can really, we can really reach this community.

Speaker 3

We're really exploiting some lonely men.

Speaker 4

They are that's who listens, and uh, you know, we kind of carved out we're the one podcast that lonely men like.

So yeah, we decided like, let's give them something sort of a signal, a flare they can send to each other with this hat.

Speaker 3

Speaking of male loneliness, I won't say that the person's name, but I recently heard a rumor about a celebrity having an AI girlfriend.

I don't know if you've heard any of these rumors about celebrities girlfriends.

Yeah, apparently there's a celebrity who has an AI girlfriend and it is kind of pushing the AI girlfriend on the people he works with.

It's an interesting I don't know how that works or if it's true.

Speaker 5

Trying to get them to maybe join their thing, maybe.

Speaker 3

Into the situation.

Speaker 4

What does that mean?

I can't imagine having named of.

Speaker 5

Course, the girlfriend is named Simone with a one and a simon classic Simone and I are kind of interested in your vibes like a coold fit.

Speaker 3

What was the wood?

Speaker 4

What was the premise of Simone?

Yes, way, it was an AI actress.

Speaker 5

That never created.

Speaker 4

Oh okay, kind of I have a loose I'm going to get details wrong.

Alpaccino he's like an aging movie producer or director of some kind, and uh he maybe they who's the actress for a movie or something.

But he decides that they can simulate an actress, like they can have a computer generated actress named Simone, simulation one who then Telly Norwood style.

They just kind of say, like, this is an actress now, and they're using not just screen images, but like she's doing like hologram like public appearances and stuff.

So she's not a man and they know and they've generated sort of a backstory.

Maybe she's even dating someone, but they but she becomes a phenomenon, uh and is is the lead of the movie, and then they're in this pickle of like, now we have this person that doesn't exist that people are kind of clamoring for, and it's he's feeling kind of like you know ed Harrison the Truman Show, where he's like operating, pulling the strings.

Speaker 3

He's bat Yeah, she.

Speaker 5

Imagine this twist.

They reveal at the end that al Pacino is also a Simone.

Speaker 3

He didn't know and it's a one a the al Pacino.

Speaker 5

So oh in your version, I was thinking of al Pacino's character in the movie You're very They reveal at the end that we got the idea for the this movie is a Simon.

Speaker 3

Inspired by the life of a one.

Speaker 5

Would played Simone?

Though, Oh, I mean it was Was it a composite?

What like?

Was it a digital writer had an actress?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

I think it was because I had to look like a real person for the film.

Speaker 4

They must have hoped and then this person will become a household name.

Oh you know, and it will be like, are we getting Simone?

But I don't think do we know if.

Speaker 3

They had to kill Simone in the movie, did you get out of control or was it just like world?

Yeah, exactly starts to spark and then I have to shoot her.

Speaker 4

I feel like I watched on cable, but I'm not sure that I was awake.

Speaker 3

For all of it, right, or saw all of it.

Speaker 5

Shooting a hologram, really, Davis forgetting it's a holograt.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, so's is holding the hologram while you shoot the like holding her still, and then you realize like, oh no.

Speaker 5

She's a hologram.

But she still has kind of a metallic terminator skull underneath her face.

It's like it seems like they didn't have to render her that way.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm kind of picturing al Pacino sadly flipping the switch at the end of the movie, saying goodbye to his daughter and that's But then I guess that is what happened.

But you do want to keep it open for a sequel situ monem hmm, but I guess that probably didn't Metadata remains, Yeah, exactly how did we get to Simote?

Speaker 2

I mean.

Speaker 3

It can't be a guy.

I mean we skipped right to Megan gender swamp Simo.

Speaker 4

Doing kind of a gender swap simone.

Speaker 3

Sim One.

Interesting.

Interesting, No, I never saw that, and it was the Truman show creator.

Speaker 5

Right.

Speaker 3

I feel like that was the category of what if another holiday?

Speaker 4

Right?

Right?

Speaker 3

And look where we are now.

We're dealing with simons around every corner.

Speaker 5

But are these are weto this a little bit bridger by criticizing like Kristen Stewart's blunt Bang, for example.

Speaker 4

We didn't criticize it.

Speaker 3

No, I said it didn't Okay, Yeah, the.

Speaker 5

Toad was really flattering.

Speaker 3

I love her blunt bang.

I've changed my mind.

It works for her and she should have gotten it sooner.

Who knows where her career.

Speaker 4

Would be even the praise has criticism.

It's too late for you.

Speaker 3

Now I'm saying bad things about her career.

Kristen breach out.

We could work through this.

Well.

Look, I've gotten myself into a lot of hot water with Simona and Kristen Stewart.

We should move on to something I'd rather not talk about, but I feel like we should.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I was excited to have you two here today.

I thought they've been in the game a long time.

They know what they're doing.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I can't imagine them making too many mistakes on the podcast.

Yeah, the podcast is called they said no gid no.

Speaker 5

But it's your mistake.

Bridger, like you you should know us.

You've been on our show, Like we're sort of the rude dudes of podcast.

Speaker 3

You're nasty, we're kind of the bad boy.

Yeah, so I was asking for it.

I feel like you've come on to blame me for almost everything, and.

Speaker 5

We let me tell you something, Bridger.

We came in here.

They asked us to put our phone on do not disturb.

Something never happened to me with.

Speaker 3

They asked me to put it on do not disturb.

Speaker 4

I said, well they didn't.

They said, please put it on D n D.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but there was a QR ode.

There's a QR code that you could scan.

There's a framed image of a QR code in the green room, but you can scan to go on Wi Fi.

Yes, I didn't put it on dn D.

Speaker 3

You could get a call at any moment.

Speaker 5

I didn't scan the QR code.

Speaker 4

Whatever.

Speaker 3

Oh I didn't scan ship.

I'm always on dn D.

You're not.

No, I would say probably half an hour of each day I'm not on D and D wowed.

Speaker 5

And then what happens when you turn it off?

Is it just a fire hose?

Speaker 3

Oh?

People are mad, people are annoyed.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but everyone's in the hospital, drafting themselves to the hospital.

They had to drive each other.

Speaker 3

Screaming and get richer on the phone.

Speaker 4

We had to create an ai star for this movie.

We wanted it to be you, but it was.

Speaker 3

You.

Speaker 4

Couldn't reach you.

Speaker 3

We wanted you as Stuart.

Speaker 4

You were going to be Stuart Stuart big.

Speaker 3

Stuart, like small male.

Well, you brought the gift?

Should we open it here?

On the podcast?

Speaker 4

We got it?

Yeah?

Speaker 3

I love this bag.

Who picked out the bag?

Speaker 4

So someone who gave my son a birthday gift picked out that bag.

Speaker 5

This is one of the best things about kids that I've discovered, is you've got bad I'm around the house.

Speaker 3

Yeah, kind of like the podcast a bag because I on the way to the car, I ripped off a tag that I almost didn't see that said happy Birthday from Bennett.

So the bag is from Bennett.

Thank you Bennett.

Speaker 5

It's nice.

Speaker 3

It's kind of a beautiful, psychedelic swing in sixties.

Speaker 4

Bag and funky.

Speaker 3

Yeah, get very funky.

We've got some tissue paper.

Good for you bringing tissue paper.

And you know I'm not messing around, Okay, we're getting in.

Oh, this is a beautiful.

This is gorgeous puzzle.

Speaker 5

The Dogs of Halloween.

Speaker 3

The Dogs of Halloween.

There's like a little pumpkin trailer and the dogs are having the time of their lives.

They're all in costume.

Speaker 5

There is a cat ghost dog oh yeah.

Speaker 3

Which feels like a mistake on the or the painters.

But the cats, oh interesting, So it's not celebrating and.

Speaker 4

It seems because black cat it's Halloween, right, but the cat's not allowed to participate in the festivities.

Speaker 5

And this is kind of a special image because this is actually a rendering of what exists on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge.

Speaker 3

Oh, I hope so?

Speaker 5

And so a dog actually like was it was?

Did visit the other side of the bridge like.

Speaker 3

That little boy who heaven is for real?

Speaker 5

Then did retain memories of what the other side of the bridge looks like?

And it is?

They are celebrating Halloween all year round.

And so no matter when this episode comes out, I don't know how it seems like this is November.

Speaker 6

I say this.

Speaker 5

It seems like it's pretty banked up.

Speaker 4

But we wanted to guarantee, like if you do, if you really push us, and it's just like this feeling you have, like this is a bad episode.

Let's just like not release until we're all out.

Everyone will know that that's what happened.

Speaker 3

No, we'll just push it to October like twenty seven.

Oh interesting, you know a couple of years from now, we've got a special Halloween episode.

Speaker 4

That don't threaten me with a good time.

Speaker 3

You toour dead.

We're like kind of celebrating you.

Speaker 5

Yeah, way to do.

Your podcast could be like that Netflix show.

Speaker 3

Which Netflix show?

Speaker 5

There's a new Netflix show where they go to people that are alive but not that much and they say, hey, just would you like to make some content that you will never get to experience the positive impacts of yourself except the money right now.

They did it with Jane Goodall.

Speaker 3

I was gonna say, kind of a Grayson Frankie situation, but no, great, Well, yes they did, older folks.

Speaker 5

It would be as if they waited if hers was a post hers was posthumous.

Speaker 3

As soon as you pass, yes, and then they release it.

That is the show.

They go to people and say we'll wait till you die.

Speaker 5

Yes, they wired.

They put a basically a detonator on your heart, so as soon as it stops beating, the episode is launched.

Speaker 3

They send you into a bank.

Wow, I wonder how they contact you about that.

Hey, you're getting up there.

Speaker 4

It's Netflix.

Speaker 3

You know they've got a little bit a bit of something for everybody.

Wow.

Speaker 5

Imagine they should have sat on Grayson Frankie.

Huh.

Speaker 3

I wonder who else they've got in the bank for that show.

I mean, they're probably not going to reveal until they Well, one of you, any of us right now, could have just done anything.

You could have done it true, and we're just safing.

That's a good idea for a podcast.

You could really blow the roof off if suddenly you're just it's all dead guests and you're like, I have the last word from this person.

Speaker 5

They should say it is so when someone dies, you can say Deadpool, Deadpool, Deadpool.

Speaker 3

There we go, Deadpool.

Right, what is the title of the show of this show?

Speaker 5

Don't remember?

Speaker 4

Somebody wants this somebody wanted this person to die.

Speaker 3

That's kind of true.

Everybody has someone that wants them to die.

Speaker 5

Someone like Jane Goodall, I mean, like lover to death.

But in an industry where there's like one really famous person, so many people are doing this, you're like.

Speaker 4

The second best monkey researcher in the world and a shit about you know what has ever lared your day?

Speaker 5

And and and her dying now doesn't mean you get elevated.

It means that people still talk about her death forever.

Speaker 4

You'll never be another one one of one.

And it's like, well, yeah, it certainly will be if we keep backing like this.

Speaker 5

You're obviously going to the funeral.

You were like really close professional colleagues, and it's just like rubbed in your face even more.

Speaker 3

Right, it makes it worse for you, terrible.

Maybe we're something flashy at the funeral, try to catch a few eyes terribly, What a shame.

Yeah, we'll never know who the next Jane go to show up with a chimp.

Speaker 7

Sorry, you know, I guess they miss Jane and now they're like it's like I'm Jane now to them or something, which.

Speaker 3

Maybe I could whatever be that for you guys, back off.

Are either of you dressing up for Halloween?

Speaker 5

I am uh part of a family costume?

Okay?

Oh man?

Have we gone back and forth on this thing?

Oh boy, for a while, my daughter wanted to be she's obsessed with evil and like general villainy and the she's really scared of Seawan You, who was the main antagonist from the movie Mulan.

Okay, but she for a while she was really insistent on being Shawn You.

Speaker 3

Oh, that's very cute.

Speaker 5

So imagine this.

A three year old girl shows up to your door.

She has a full on fu man shoe mustache.

Speaker 3

What is happening in this house?

Speaker 5

And like armor paths and a big sword, maybe a crow, like a pet crow on her shoulder.

Speaker 3

I think that's very cute.

Speaker 5

We got her off.

That next one was a problem for a different reason.

She wanted to be aerial.

Great, sure on.

Speaker 4

Land does not want a tail and tail around.

Speaker 5

She has a pink dress in the movie that My daughter was like, give me that.

But she's not allowed to talk interesting either, So she's.

Speaker 3

Just taking the wrong messages from this movie.

Speaker 5

Yeah, so you So in this case, three shows up to your door just wearing a pink dress and the shell hairclip.

That's the only actual clue you get.

And who are you supposed to be?

And you're just met with dead silence.

Speaker 3

And now it's like ghost, yeah, ghost, ghost in a pink dress.

So now what does she want to be?

Speaker 5

She had an Alice in Wonderland themed birthday party has a great Alice get up, and my wife managed to manipulate her into doing that again and thinking it was her idea, and so I was a mad hatter.

Okay, great if it was the White Rabbit.

We're just running it back.

Okay.

Speaker 3

I think that's a great castle to Everyone gets it immediately, there's no explaining, and it's within the ballpark of what she wanted.

Sean, are you dressing him?

Speaker 4

I don't think so.

Okay, sometimes I'll throw on a cowboy hat or something, you know.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's nice to have a cowboy hat or a witch hat something.

Speaker 4

Yeah, something I got lying around, a little flannel and a cowboy hat, you know.

But I don't really like to dress up.

But I'm dealing with my kids, and my son has inherited that trait.

He just like is very very against having to put something on.

Speaker 3

Oh anything in general.

Speaker 4

Yeah, And so his kind of life hack is that he's realized Halloween is a way for him to get a free basketball jersey of a player that he likes.

So he just like says a player, and he's like, I want to go, is this you know?

Player?

I think this year he's going to be Tyrese Haliburt.

So he so he got you know, he got the the way I save because you know now I'm buying.

Yeah, So that's he's gonna wear that.

And then that player obviously has a is recovering from a torn achilles, and it's a big argument with my wife that she just wants him to at least like put a band aid on his ankle or something so that there's like some indication that it's like a costume but not just a kid in a jersey.

And I think where we currently stand is he will put some form of bandage on his ankle for one photo.

Speaker 3

Wow, what a negotiation.

Speaker 4

Six tough.

And then his sister, who's four, she really wanted the whole family to go as the Barnstein Bears, but of course her brother refused and so it was like it all fell apart.

And then my wife similarly just has convinced her to wear a costume that I think she wanted her to be in, which is she is going to be shared from the movie Clueless, a character she has no idea what it was and it's never seen, but it's the yellow platu with the and she's got she's got the pink pen with the feather and a little like old school cell phone, which I think she wanted to like have a phone as a toy anyway, And so so it's all come together.

I think she'll look great and you can do that with her right now.

Speaker 3

And do you guys go trick or treating with your kids?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 3

How does that work?

I've never had a trick or treater in La I'm not.

Speaker 5

Literally you're in the zone.

So every neighborhood has a couple of hot spots, like.

Speaker 4

A street that is like this is the trick or treat street.

Speaker 5

Right the rat colony in the Palaces.

Speaker 4

It's insane.

So like four blocks from us, our neighbor lives like in the center of the zone, and so we're going to go to their house.

We help hand out candy.

I mean, you got you know, ten people there.

They order pizzas, and it's like you're just handing out candy.

It's hundreds and hundreds of people coming through, and so you kind of like there's like two giant like barrels of candy out front.

You're doing that, and then at some point in the night, I'll take my kids and we will walk just up and down those two blocks and it'll take an hour and a half right to like get through those lines and stuff.

But like that's it.

We just post up there.

Speaker 5

It's like a hard do they tell you when you're buying one of these houses, because like it's it's a responsibility.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that seems like a huge hassle.

Speaker 5

People I think will bother you if you don't decorate.

I assume it would just be like, Hey, just so you know, like we were moving a little differently here that I'm I'm I'm curious about that.

I gotta find out I want And this year, I feel like if you showed up.

I don't know what the bad guy from K Pop Demon Hunters looks like, but if you showed up to one of these places dressed like that, I think you might actually get killed.

Speaker 3

Yeah, truly be tramples.

Speaker 5

Just the number of little kids stabbing you with whatever their weapon is, I think you would actually get Yeah.

Speaker 3

Does that movie.

I imagine he's like a record producer or something of the villain of the.

Speaker 5

Great I love that turns out to be a demon.

Hey, can the bag guy not be a producer?

Speaker 3

There are other jobs in the industry.

Speaker 5

He's not really.

Speaker 4

He's sort of the head of all the demons.

Okay, but then like there's a sort of cocky, arrogant demon who has a good good enough voice that he can start a boy band that will then be able to rival the because the girl group K pop group are the demon hunters.

They're killing all these demons and so then, uh, they want to kind of asorb all their fans to this like demon boy band and that will like somehow eliminate their power.

Speaker 3

But it's very complicated, right, And were the gals demon hunters first or pop stars?

Speaker 5

Great question?

Speaker 4

Well, they have all been sort of Buffy the Vampire Slayer trained to be demon hunters.

I think from birth.

One of them is like a Blade type character where she's half demon and is trying to hide it from the rest of the group.

Speaker 5

Right, you gotta have one of those.

Speaker 4

And so I think that their initial training was in demon hunting and that the pop singing came later.

But I don't actually know the timeline.

I say I watched it.

Speaker 3

But I sort of half watched it as my kids were watching it.

Is there like a lou Pearlman type?

Is there somebody who puts the group together or is it.

We just come together through a shared love.

Speaker 5

Of Music's who's there's.

Speaker 4

Funny like manager a character okay, Okay, who's like sort of yeah, going like we gotta get to hear but you know, like we got the next your big show coming up, and like it's sort of like a goofball and it's like okay, but yeah, and the music is so popular.

Speaker 3

Oh, unbelievably popular.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I mean I've heard the song once.

I heard it and I thought I get it.

Yeah, this is a powerful piece of music.

Yeah, and dances they go.

Speaker 4

You know, there's a class, like an after school class at my son's school that his friends do where they just learn dances to the K pop Demon Hunters music.

Like it's just a dance class for that soundtrack.

And now is this a thing where it's split between boys and girls?

The boys want to dance like the evil Demons.

I think they're all learning the same dance.

Okay, I don't know.

He won't do it.

I mean it's that's like dressing up for Halloween to him.

Yeah, that's like.

Speaker 5

That would be participating.

Speaker 3

Yeah, did you too dress up as kids?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 5

I did.

Speaker 4

One year.

Speaker 5

My parents love to laugh about about the year, I insisted on being a chicken.

Oh, it's so funny, like a little kid doesn't know that it's like not cool to be a chicken.

Speaker 3

I guess he's fifteen.

Speaker 5

But they got me a chicken costume, and I asked them to take it back, which they did, because I wanted to be like a chick coming out of the shell.

Speaker 1

Chick.

Speaker 5

Oh, interesting, that's what I was coated like a piece of shell on my head, right, very can I got what I wanted?

Speaker 3

That feels like I had to construct.

That would be something a parent would have to construct.

You buy an egg, you.

Speaker 5

Can, oh, you can buy those absolutely, like Sean saying, I mean they have Easter costumes.

That's one of like two Easter costumes.

Speaker 4

The other's a lamb or by the other's a bunny.

Speaker 3

Should not get bunny, guess.

Speaker 4

And I know it's your show, and you've been doing great with a lot of the other sections, but.

Speaker 3

I'm thinking about I'm thinking about the religious half of this holiday.

You two have forgotten the true meaning of Easter, and you're thinking about the rabbit, and I'm thinking about the Christian.

Speaker 5

Non Jane Goodall, Jim experts.

Speaker 6

Well, that's but you didn't dress Family Feud, you just get absolutely annihilated.

Speaker 3

I should not go on that show.

Speaker 4

It was so.

Speaker 3

Mad, handcuffed.

Lamb would be on the list.

At least give me that Lamb would be on the list.

Speaker 5

Lamb's number three.

Speaker 3

How many did you get on Family Feud?

Speaker 4

Five?

Speaker 5

It's the top, it has to I think it's everything over like one percent.

It's different.

Speaker 3

Oh, it's I've ever seen an episode.

I've seen small clips of the show.

Speaker 5

Oh it's fun, it's a good, good, But never sat down and watched a complete episode of Family not a single.

Speaker 4

You must have friends that have been on the celebrity version of it.

Speaker 3

Well, who cares?

Yeah with the blunt bag.

Well why can you tell me why you brought this?

Just because it was a very cute puzzle?

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, Well you know I looked at some of the other gifts, so there was a backgamon set.

There is a backgam that made me think of like, what else do you do on a tabletop on a nice jigsaw puzzle?

But we you know, we go in and out of big being a big jigsaw puzzle house where we really will go through a perer where there's just always a puzzle on the table and somebody's just like working on it and pieces, and that can be a nice sort of soothing activity, you know, you forget like buzzes are nice, they are.

Speaker 5

You need that.

I mean the thing is what we were tapping into that little time to just like turn your brain off, right right.

Speaker 3

I got a I've gotten This is I think the third puzzle I've gotten on this Podcasteah.

Speaker 4

Well this is something because as I was grabbing it, my wife said, like, I wonder if he's gotten a puzzle before, and I said, I can't.

Speaker 5

Be held responsible for that.

Speaker 3

No, no, no, no, A point well, and if if it was the same puzzle, But I've gotten a cozy Christmas village.

Didn't do that one.

And then I got all of the Republican presidents playing pool.

And that's the first large scale puzzle I've ever done.

Speaker 5

All of them, all of them but Trump, Okay, is that guy that paints some of them?

That paints those presidents.

I mean that's some of.

Speaker 3

Those loser guys who does like the Republican President's being cool.

Speaker 5

That's so many for one game of pool.

Speaker 3

I guess maybe not all, but maybe the hits.

Speaker 4

Well is it a pool haul?

And there's multiple games going or is it just one table.

Speaker 3

One table at one table and I think only one or two trying to picture it now, I think they all are participating in the puzzle or in the in the pool.

But I did it.

It was five hundred pieces, I think, and it took me fifteen weeks to complete the plus wow.

I mean, I wasn't putting my all into it, and I wasn't excited about finishing it, but it did take way longer than I expected, and it was just on my kitchen counter for weeks.

The only reason I kind of finally finished it was my boyfriend said, that needs to kitchen place.

Speaker 5

Yeah, well that's for other stuff.

Speaker 3

For someone who doesn't I simply don't cook.

Don't cook, so it didn't really matter.

I guess it was probably good that I was using the space for something, but it took forever and it made me feel less than you know, so you start to wonder about yourself and how many puzzles out five hundred?

Yeah, above, it's just too much.

Speaker 4

Like you'll see a great puzzle that's a thousand, and you'll go like this will be fun, and I I feel like one time, like a bunch of friends had rented a house like in Big Bear, and we just had a big thousand piece jigsaw puzzle out somebody was always working on and it got finished over the course of the weekend, and that was fun.

But if it's like just you or you and one other person working on a thousand piece, it's like not that fun to me.

Speaker 3

That doesn't sound enjoyable.

Speaker 5

Go into more and more homes where they have a little room where the puzzle is partially completed and you can just like pop a piece in here and there, and you know not that the green room here isn't cozy.

The frame QR code is like it's.

Speaker 3

Like the QR code together hearth.

Speaker 5

Maybe could you could put that not you know that's for you, but just a puzzle on that table could be.

It's a fun place there appear to be you're not allowed to.

Speaker 3

Make many rooms in this there are plenty of rooms one could have a puzzle in it.

It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 4

To be honest, I think it could be nice.

Speaker 3

It feels like a complaint or.

Speaker 5

Show concept where like people are doing a puzzle.

I want to go back to a question you were asking before, did you I don't remember anything you.

Sean and I used to get invited to the Maroon five Halloween party every year.

Jealous, which was at Hollywood, used to be.

Speaker 4

At Hollywood forever.

Yes, it was the other.

Speaker 5

For the last couple of years.

They aren't doing it anymore or much more.

Speaker 4

Likely we just fell off the list.

But we used to go.

Speaker 5

What did you dress up as?

Speaker 3

You kind of had h you must have had to dress you had to dress up, for sure.

Speaker 4

I've never been a big dress up guy.

It just feels like pressure to me.

Speaker 5

I just oh, yeah, expectations or I remember really freaking out here.

Speaker 4

I'm dressing up.

People go yeah, you know, they're rubbing their fork and knife together.

They're excited, so like, yeah, one year, I think you were involved in my costumes.

But one time I think I was a Jeopardy contestant and I basically went as you when you were on Jeopardy, and I had like a like a sandwich board style like podium in front.

Yeah, and I think I just dressed up as Hayes from his Jeopardy appearance.

Speaker 5

That's right.

And I think you surprised me at the at the party.

Yeah, and then sorry, I forgot.

Speaker 4

About that the other year.

I think I also involved you in the costume, which is I believe it was during the peak of Occupy Wall Street and my wife and I went.

She dressed as a cow and I dressed as a milk carton, and we had protest signs that said we are the two percent perfect and I on the back of my milk carton.

How to have you seen this boy poster?

And it was an image of Hayes from what he was on Jeopardy.

Speaker 3

All of your costumes are haze on Jeopardy.

Speaker 5

Yeah, And I'm sort of taken back to the experience of, like, you go to this party where you're kind of nervous.

There's a lot of really really fakes people there.

I saw Courtney Love there.

Speaker 3

What was she dressed as?

Speaker 5

I don't I really wish.

I was thinking the other day that I wish I remember because in my so let me tell you who she was dressed as.

In my head, Kurt Cobain.

Speaker 3

I was going to say it was Kurt, but I could not.

Speaker 4

Possibly almost said as a joke.

Speaker 5

But I know, I think I might have joked dressed her up like that.

Speaker 3

Dead hospital.

Speaker 5

That's what I decided to remember.

Speaker 3

I mean, if anyone was going to do that would be Courtney Love she.

Speaker 2

Is.

Speaker 4

Did you ever watch the montage of Heck documentary?

Speaker 5

No?

Speaker 4

It was it good?

Oh yeah, it's it's pretty good, but by far to me, like the best part of the whole thing is they have a lot of footge of like Kurt and Courtney together and like you know home videos they took basically and there's just the two of them making fun of but also clearly being jealous of guns and Roses and like it's just it's so humanizing.

It like made me feel good, where it's like this fucking dude was the coolest person in the world and he couldn't get over the fact that like I'm sure guns and Roses like album sales were high, and like also that he was like and they're kind of wane to me, Like they're kind of annoying, and this is what.

Speaker 3

People want, and I just just like it's everybody that makes me feel, so everyone feels.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think it's a it's a very soothing ball And.

Speaker 5

That was how part of how you were cool at the time.

Can you really do that today?

Something you can't hate on your peers.

Speaker 3

In that one you kind of have to just retreat basically and just let them continue to bulldoze their way through.

Speaker 5

And maybe part of it was like people look at court Love now and like her amazing band was overshadowed by her personality.

Speaker 3

I love her personality, but I mean people I like aspects of it.

Speaker 4

Sure, it's probably not and there's other things that I think I would classify as areas for growth in Courty looks personality and I'm not And by the way, I'm not like I'm a fan.

Yeah, but I don't think we're looking at a finished product.

Speaker 3

There's something she could work on, yes for me as well.

Speaker 5

Anyway, it was fun to see her at this party and but you're just like vibrating in this like space where just like whatever Jake jillenhall your peripheral vision, and then you see your friends wearing a costume of you.

Yeah, it's like, oh, okay, it's just it's another thing to dream dream nature.

No, it was nice, but wait, what were you?

Speaker 3

What were you dressed as?

Speaker 5

I truly do not remember.

Speaker 4

I think you were Pikachu once I was.

He just had a big old Pikachu costume.

Speaker 5

I did.

I had a full sized Pikachu cost.

Speaker 4

I had one more costume that I remember that no one knew what I was, but that was sort of by design, and I went as Colin Ferrell from True Detective season two.

Speaker 5

Uh Ray, Ray for sure.

Speaker 4

His name was Ray and I used to obviously the last name was like Tip, it's like Bell Combe or yes, yes, yes, Ray val conel Cone and uh I was like you know that season came out and people immediately were like this is what I watched every episode and slipped it was like I love Colin Farrell and this he's so weird.

And so I had a pretty good because he had a really distinct look, like he had like long hair and a big mustache and sort of like a turquoise like bolo tie and like I got like a jacket that approximate it.

Speaker 3

I have no recollection of that character.

Well, I only watched a couple episodes and got off, but got off.

Speaker 4

Around, shutting this off, messing around.

It's fine, You're good.

Speaker 3

Uh No, I don't remember that character at all.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, well he was one of the season two was Rachel McAdams, Colin Farrell, and Taylor Kitsch Okay Taylor.

Speaker 5

And Vince Vaughn as the bad guy, and.

Speaker 3

Somebody gets shot.

That's all I remember, right.

Speaker 5

No, sorry, you're not remembering that, right, No, nobody gets shot.

Speaker 3

No one gets hurt, gets shot.

Speaker 4

He's running through the I think he's in the like Sequoia forest.

Speaker 3

I have some some memory of someone sending in the living room getting shot directly in the chest with the shotgun in that season of the show.

Maybe I just.

Speaker 5

Wanted that that's what the characters would you want to be able to root for the Karen And I'm not really that interested in watching someone shoot another human being.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's actually illegal.

Speaker 3

Someone who's shot in the chest.

Well, is there anything left to say about the puzzle?

Speaker 5

It wasn't that much to begin with.

But I but I don't think there's anything left either.

Speaker 3

Do either of you have pets?

Speaker 5

Oh?

Speaker 4

God, yes, dogs?

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Do you dress those up?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 4

I have a big husky shepherd.

He's a very sort of beige like you know, seventy five pound dog.

And we will just for the trigger treaters, like just when they show up the kids.

We'll put a lion's mane on him and let him answer the door.

And it looks pretty good.

But we don't.

He doesn't.

He doesn't hate it, but he doesn't love it, and so we'll kind of just put it on for the you know, reading Two Dogs, Two Dogs, back up to five cats after having gotten down to three seven beatles.

Son going to get a white tree frog for Christmas.

That's been the.

Speaker 3

Big Get a tree frog.

Speaker 5

That's a big.

Speaker 4

That's been a lot of conversation about a tree frog.

Just recently had to buy him a book on how to take care of tree frogs, which he's been asking me to do for about a month now because he knows he's getting it.

Or yes, he had.

He had been really agitating for a fish.

He's very interested in fish, and we were able to kind of steer him towards this, which I think he didn't know was an option.

Like, I don't think he feels like he's settling as he's like, oh wow, because I think they're a little easier to take care of.

Speaker 3

Maintaining a fish tank is disgusting, really challenging.

Speaker 5

And you know, my memory of it, five garfields in the house, I know.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so I think the frog might be a little bit more manageable, right, But we have seven blue death fanning beetles that are in his room now that are like the easiest pet in the world if anyone has children that are interested in bugs and like who wants like a frog, lizard, whatever type creature.

They're desert bug, They're big, they're kind of cool.

You can hold them, and you have to spray them, like missed them with water once a week, perfect and basically put like crickets and dog food in their bowls.

Speaker 3

It like, yeah, what's a life spent on a beetle?

Speaker 4

A few years in?

But I think it's I think it's like five to seven years.

Speaker 3

Wow, that's really impressive.

I would say maybe six weeks.

Speaker 4

Yeah, no, they're they're going.

Speaker 3

So when one of those guys, it'll be an emotional experience maybe.

Speaker 4

Okay, so I said we have seven.

I think we have six actually.

But the really crazy thing is they they play positive called death fanning beetles because if you touch them and they're nervous, they fold over and put their legs up.

So at times I've been like, oh, no, this one's dead, and then they are alive.

But now I have seen one actually be dead, and I don't know what age they are when we get them or any you know they just came in the mail.

Speaker 3

Oh, they come in the mail.

Speaker 5

They must have some of the just fage death too much and they wake up in the freaking trash kid.

Speaker 4

No, it almost happened.

Speaker 3

There was one that I was like, this is definitely.

Speaker 4

I was like sad.

I was like, okay, well one of them's dead, and I was like getting ready to get rid of and then it was like, gotcha teasing you?

Speaker 3

You order them by mail?

Fascinating I did.

Yeah, okay, I remember I've brought this up to people before, but I remember seeing bags of ladybugs.

Speaker 5

You could buy.

Speaker 3

Have you ever seen these?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's a real praying mantis as well.

That's like a garden product.

Like if you go to a garden supply store, they'll have like a ladybug nest or whatever like that you can put in your garden.

Speaker 3

I'd love to get one of those again.

Yeah, it's kind of disgusting to begin with, but then they're all over your yard.

Why not?

Speaker 5

Oh yeah, do you have cats, Bridger?

Speaker 3

No, I had two cats years and years ago.

We have a dog now, she's only eight months old.

Speaker 2

Though.

Speaker 5

There's this thing out there.

Sean and I both have orange cats now, but it's I think it's an increasing online thing that the orange cats are like the most demented.

Speaker 3

Oh mine were orange and they were like wild animals.

Yeah, they were really and then they had to be because I was moving across the country.

Blah blah blah.

Were adopted by a woman, her daughter and her son who is a YouTube magician, and I think they're taking care of them.

Speaker 4

Okay, shout out the YouTube channel.

Speaker 3

I'm not shouting out the YouTube channel, Jesus Christ Bridger.

Speaker 4

I mean you pull the ladder back up behind you.

Speaker 3

Here are magic on my own.

Speaker 5

You see it as an extension of red hair discrimination, that this is like the path that people have found.

Speaker 3

Oh they can hate the orange cat, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 5

But you also agreed that they are more insane self loathing.

Speaker 4

You've internalized it well.

Speaker 3

And also, of course orange cats are almost always male, which we have.

Speaker 4

An orange so it's less than fifteen percent of them or female.

We have a female orange cat, wow, and anytime we go to the vet or whatever with her.

Speaker 3

They're like ooh.

Speaker 4

Like the cat enthusiasts know this.

So we had we had five cats.

At one point, we were feeding seven cats because Tony the Farrell who killed all the rats would come across the street, and there was a cat who lived up the street but mostly came to our house for dinner.

And that cat we called him mister Cheeks.

He had very high, beautiful cheekbones.

But then later his owner discovered that he was our house a lot and his owner had named him Buddha, and sometimes he would show for dinner.

I'd be like, hey, there, here's your dinner, mister Cheeks, and I'd hear him over the fans go It's like, what do you give a fun I'm taking a Yeah.

So anyway, those mister Cheeks moved, Tony's passed away.

The two main coon mixes I had have passed away then, so we were down to these three tabbies that were my wife's originally.

And then we this guy in the neighborhood dropped off four kittens to be like, can you foster these until they get adopted.

Two of them got adopted right away, the other two orange ones now they live with us.

Speaker 3

You're a big animal person.

I didn't realize this.

Speaker 4

Yeah, there's too many cats.

Speaker 3

That's a lot of cats, and all of them live in your house.

Speaker 4

Not really the orange the Yeah, the there's like a separate structure that mainly the tabbies live in, and then that's sort of.

Speaker 5

Like a cat hutch habitat.

Speaker 4

Yeah, like, yeah, it's like a habitat.

It's got cat trees and yeah, it's like a Chicken coop esque thing, really nice.

Speaker 3

And then well it matches the house.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and then there's uh, the orange ones are in and out.

But yeah, they they tend to really spend a lot of their time on the roof.

Speaker 3

That they love to be up on the wrist.

They should.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and I'm hoping, actually fingers crossed that they become because the cats that I had and that my wife had were useless in terms of killing rats.

I think these orange ones might be our new hunters.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, if you're going to have it.

They have a little bit of that hour and they've got the killer instinct.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

One a woman came and told us that she saw the girl kill a cockroach on the sidewalk today.

Speaker 3

Perfect, Yes, she's the letter work in the speed bag.

Well, I think we should play a game.

We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.

But I need a number between one and ten from you.

Speaker 5

Jigsaw over here.

Speaker 3

I'm speaking of Halloween.

I need a number between one and ten.

Speaker 5

From you two.

Okay, let's see if we have the same one.

Now we don't.

Speaker 3

What were you going to say?

Speaker 5

Nine?

Okay?

Speaker 3

Interesting, but this is why you two worked so well together.

Speaker 2

We will go.

Speaker 4

I'm a four and he's a nine.

Speaker 5

If if I were facing just say, if I were facing Oz the mentalist, nine is what I would pick, or possibly even ten.

Speaker 4

Ten.

Speaker 5

I mean, I just feel like, I mean, I'm not going to ten.

People forget.

Speaker 3

No one ever says ten.

Speaker 5

I'm going to beat him at his own game.

But I mean, I gotta take a swing at ten ten four.

I feel like I'm, you know, playing right into his hands.

Speaker 3

People might as well not hear everyone.

It's a nice one to get, but ten, I think I maybe one person has ever done that, and that was they won't be asked back.

But this is I need you to use the microphone right now.

You can recommend, promote.

Speaker 5

I have to do some.

Speaker 3

On your own.

Speaker 5

Believe calculated get games the number four.

Yes, okay.

Speaker 3

The fact that you understand this almost every guest is so baffled, I say, but you got it immediately.

Speaker 5

I almost I mean, I'm so intrigued.

I almost want the calculation to happen out loud, but maybe that would give way.

It's a piece of it, the game.

Speaker 3

But you can recommend, you can promote, do whatever you want.

Speaker 5

I'll be right back.

You're already on Patreon.

Speaker 4

We're behind the curtain right now.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, this is one click process.

That's the appeal of Patreon, isn't it?

To sample our offerings at patreon dot com slash.

Speaker 4

It's Hollywood handbooking.

Speaker 5

Friends, now believe Hollywood.

I mean, that's not the that's not the u r L, but certainly.

Speaker 4

The u r L the flavor once still or something that we have to.

Speaker 5

Keep that great question.

Speaker 4

Let's look, let's look.

Speaker 5

We've got you.

Love sports.

We've got you.

Speaker 4

I didn't do the QR code, so I probably can't even search for you, but we'll try.

Speaker 5

Uh.

If you search Hollywood Handbook Patreon, you'll find video feeds of our main show, a bonus show, video feeds of that show, a basketball show, a baseball show.

Sometimes shows about are wild tales of the entertainment industry.

It's a it's a robust offering.

Over there are we doing sleepcam doing sleep muck bangs or whatever Bridger's doing.

They haven't gotten there quite.

Speaker 3

Sleep people just watch it's a sleep tape.

Speaker 5

Sep silly of me.

Yes, well, here's your u r L Patreon dot com slash c W slash Hollywood Handbooks.

So yes, it gets pretty pretty risque over there.

Content warning you are about to be extremely dangerously content.

Speaker 3

You're gonna be flatlining real feel was this thing you had to change.

Speaker 4

The u r L Well, we had initially so we when we launched the Patreon, Hollywood Handbook was just on a network.

It was its own thing, and we with our friend Carl Tart, started this basketball show called The Flagrant Ones, which we thought was kind of a funny name.

It was, you know, you can get a flagrant one as a vow, but it's also you know, the defiant Ones, I feel like had come out recently, and so we that was the title of the Patreon.

Then we moved a lot of other stuff over there.

And Andrew Schultz, yes.

Speaker 5

He had a show called The Flagrant two for a.

Speaker 4

While it was like the most popular Patreon.

Speaker 5

Carant Okay, and yes, we have been accidentally listed among man Sphere podcasts.

Speaker 3

You've been looking to break into that circle for all people have been I think accidentally directed to us sometimes and they've been.

Speaker 5

Tom Harris go on the flagrant ones.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Speaker 3

Wow, wow, I don't think I even mentioned our patreons r L Patreon dot com slash.

I said, no gifts, I'm very best.

No c w Okay, everyone go to Patreon.

This is how we play Gift or Curse.

I'm going to name three things.

You'll tell me if they are a gift or a curse and why, and I'll tell if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers, so you can lose.

Speaker 4

Be very careful.

Speaker 5

I can't wait to hear how the four comes into play or whatever the.

Speaker 3

Four has got long gone.

Speaker 5

Wow.

Speaker 3

It was used to randomize which ones I picked.

Okay, to be fair, Okay, This first one is from a listener named Johnny.

Gift or a curse microwaves that display enjoy your meal when the timer is done.

Speaker 5

Wow.

I've never gotten a microwave like that.

Speaker 4

Me neither.

Speaker 5

I don't.

Speaker 4

You know I have two You want me to talk through it?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 4

So I have two like opposing instincts.

One is don't tell me what to do you little food robut you tell you boss me around.

But two is why am I heating it up?

If I'm not going to enjoy my meal, which I don't always remember to do sometimes.

You know your microwave eser, you're gonna hurry the hustle and bustle, and it's like, we're not taking the time to enjoy our meal.

Speaker 3

A gentle reminder like that, I think I'm going gift.

Speaker 5

I I mean, if it has language capabilities like that, then that means that it can be reprogrammed if you have just a basic understanding of the engineering, the coding, yes, the technology behind that, and so it can be reprogrammed to say something like ouch oh and when you're done using it, And so that can make you think twice about how many trips you're taking to the microwave.

Speaker 4

How hard you push the buttons as well, and right, so like kicking it.

Speaker 5

And then it's just for health purposes, You're like, Okay, I'm going to be micro not as many things, because I heard a microwave and now work the microves healthy.

I'm a little healthier.

That seems like it could be a really nice gift.

Speaker 4

I'm also not starting on fire.

I'm not making the lights flicker of my house.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I forgot about your microwave.

Who knows if your home could handle this type of microwave Probably not, probably not.

You're correct, it's a gift.

Yeah, that's that's good tech.

I don't have one of these.

I can't afford a microwave that tells me anything.

Mine has numbers and maybe an error message.

Speaker 5

I'll bet it scrolls along one of those levels and letters might even be jumping up into the.

Speaker 3

Little musical thing.

Mine just beeps and goes down and has kind of a bad level handle.

So I think that's a nice thing to have, and it really keeps us present, Like you were saying, it's a nice reminder to be present with your microwaved dinner.

Okay.

The second one is from a listener Patreon listener Lisa Gift or a curse cars in America with the European license plate on the front.

Have you seen these?

Speaker 5

A European license plate on the front, So it's a different license plate than the one in the back.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3

Sometimes I think it's like a diplomat or something, or I think it's more of like a car.

Speaker 4

People to me, Oh, is that like I used to hear that, like, if you wanted like a European car, you should go spend a month in Europe and drive around the car, and then you'd ship it back and be less than buying the import or something.

Speaker 3

I mean true.

Maybe in the nineties when I was learning about this, it was.

Speaker 4

But this is an easy one for me.

Speaker 5

This is a curse.

Speaker 4

It's just confusing.

Speaker 5

It's not it's deliberately confusing.

I mean that car.

That car belongs to the nefarious art thief Thomas Crown.

There's no one else that could be.

Speaker 4

It's more deliberately confusing.

Speaker 5

Its designed to confuse inter Paul and NYPD alight.

And so when you flip the car back where it's whatever, you're big person, dude buy.

Speaker 3

He's even designed to fool his own lover.

Speaker 5

So he's actually across national jurisdictions at any given time to depending on whether he sits in the front seat or the backseat.

Speaker 3

He's essentially on the ocean.

No law applies to this man.

Speaker 5

But he appreciates the finer things, doesn't.

He almost seems more deserving of the art than just the lay person.

Speaker 4

And then you mentioned ocean.

I go only person, I know would have that car, Danny Ocean, Anny Ocean, Right, he also would be willing.

Speaker 3

To he would love that car, salivating over that sort of car.

So you're saying, curse, it's a case, yeah, correct, curse.

Look, when I'm on the freeway, I need to know where I am.

I need to know which country I'm in.

Speaker 5

Which side you're supposed to drive onto.

Speaker 3

Suddenly I'm sick to my stomach saying that thing Migrain's galore.

Where am I am?

I in Paris or Los Angeles.

It's a tough thing to see.

Speaker 4

I have a this needing to know where I am.

This reminds me of maybe a fun story you might like.

So I was working on the production of this show called Kevin Can Fuck Himself, and it filmed in Boston.

It was during COVID and we were all in quarantine.

But the star of the show, Annie Murphy, had been nominated for a Golden Globe, and so we went over to her apartment, all the people who worked on the show and we're friends with her, so that we could kind of be there with her as she did like the COVID remote Golden Globe and we were inside the like remote video zoom green room with all of the other nominees.

One of them was Julia Garner.

One of them was Gillian Anderson.

Gillian Anderson, that's a good question.

But at any rate, Gillion, maybe a Gill Gillian Anderson.

So everyone's sort of just awkwardly like all these actors are just sitting in a silent zoom like as they wait for their category.

And at one point, Julia says, we'll go with Gillian.

Gillian, it's so good to see you.

We actually had dinner together a few months ago.

I met you at a dinner and Gillian goes, oh, really in what country?

Speaker 5

Awesome?

Can you believe that's her first question?

Speaker 4

What a weird question.

Speaker 5

That's how she gotta narrow it down.

Speaker 3

Wow, what a life.

Speaker 4

I'm having dinner in so many countries.

Speaker 5

And also narrowed at like when she might have had dinner with Julia Garner.

Yes, I'm certain that hasn't happened to me.

I would have remembered.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so bare like doesn't even really register for her.

She's just with celebs all the time in every country.

She could imagine who won?

Speaker 5

Gillian?

Yeah, oh interesting, I think.

Speaker 3

And was that a move on?

Speaker 4

Gillian show up.

I don't remember, honestly, I was.

I blacked out after that happened?

Speaker 3

Which country?

Speaker 4

Yeah, isn't that good?

Speaker 5

Wow?

Speaker 3

She's she's a Thomas Crowton type if there ever was one.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 3

Okay, you've gotten two rights so far.

This is the final one.

This is from Patreon listener Mary Anne.

Gift or a curse being able to edit text messages after sending mmm mmmmmm mm.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Speaker 4

This one's the hard This is the hard one.

Speaker 3

This is the tough thing.

Speaker 4

This is the hard one.

Speaker 5

It's a gift, So.

Speaker 4

Why might it be a curse?

This is the question, and the answer for me is sometimes you don't do it fast enough and then you go, I wish I had done that, and if the technology didn't exist, I would never know that pain.

Speaker 5

M But.

Speaker 4

Sometimes you do fix something that might have been a little embarrassing, and sometimes you can see that your friend made a mistake.

Speaker 5

I first of all, it's it's it's cutting down on the number of texts on getting which is a good thing because someone if someone sends me almost they're just porking and then sends parking, right, that's twenty cents instead of just ten.

Speaker 4

Well, not only that, I would say just porking, porking, I mean porking parking.

Speaker 3

And then an angry I hate auto correct, auto.

Speaker 5

Correct, the emoji, the cursing emojis, like, don't curse crass, Absolutely no need for that.

Speaker 3

I'm trying to have dinner.

Speaker 5

But it's also it's it's fun to sign it's and it's worth running up the bill a little bit to be able to then respond pork Yes, the funniness of saying pork and then other people there's other people in the chat.

They can say porking too, and we're you know, we're like, we're spending a little money on the extra text, but it's.

Speaker 4

Worth It's not like we never see typos.

How about the people that you know, you know saw it and they just don't edit it too.

Speaker 3

Oh that's an attitude, I know, what a life that person's lead country the.

Speaker 5

Really rich like super rich producers, and the Sony hack was a real example of this.

They aren't looking at their device while.

Speaker 3

They're from their AOL account.

Yes, this was like I think there was a whole article at one point where like people with AOL accounts are the richest people.

Speaker 5

They write emails like they are sprinting past the keyboard.

Speaker 3

No time.

Yeah, that's someone who doesn't care that much the school.

Speaker 5

I could never do that.

Speaker 4

The most famous powerful person I said, mass emails that are just all typeos every yes, as if he sneezed on the keyboard, and I'm like, wow, I get it.

Speaker 3

No one's ever going to say anything to him about it.

Why would you?

I mean, that's the person in charge.

Speaker 5

He thinks that's how what words look like.

Now, yeah, it is.

Speaker 4

It is an interesting version of like the protective bubble that you can find yourself.

Speaker 3

Oh yes, like kind of the ultimate example of that.

You were showing everyone your behavior and no one is saying anything about it.

Speaker 5

It's nice.

Speaker 4

But also just like I think this person sends a lot more text and emails that I do throughout today, and like it just can't kind of worry over each piece of punctuation the way that I do, like is this okay, I got to show it to my wife?

Is this okay?

If I say this back so good.

Speaker 5

I'll say curse.

Then now it's just sanding down the human experience, the variability of our this is good.

Speaker 3

One of us has to win, and one of us has to lose.

So, yeah, you're saying curse, you're saying gifts.

Yeah, it's a curse.

I'm sorry, that's okay, it's a curse.

Speaker 4

I kind of feel it.

Speaker 6

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look, we want our text swarts and all.

We want to see our friends make mistakes.

At the very least, you get to see your friend in a vulnerable state.

Speaker 4

And why not.

Speaker 5

You know, the LA's really pure communication format.

Speaker 3

Yes, it's Texting is the only way we can really communicate with each other and show our true selves.

So, but two out of three is not bad.

I didn't want to win, and that's a good attitude.

We need to answer an email people are writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com, begging for answers.

We help me answer a question.

Speaker 5

Sure, you have so many suggestions that you have to not just take a number from one to ten, but then do an additional computation on top of that to determine it.

So you're I mean, wait the game.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's a very complicated show.

This is a thinking person's show.

Speaker 4

Every aspect of the layers of this thing.

Man that we've bent, the hoops I jumped through to come sit at this table.

Speaker 5

Is out of honey control.

Speaker 3

Okay, this is high Bridger.

I have two younger brothers who are both incredibly difficult to shop for.

I consider myself to be a good gift giver, but I really struggle with the two of them, especially since I don't spend a ton of time with either of them.

The younger one is eighteen and makes electronic music.

This is his only hobby, and it's too expensive to buy him music equipment.

The other is twenty one and doesn't have any hobbies, unless you count smoking pot and hanging out with this cat to be a hobby.

It's a little judgment on there.

My question is how do you shop for two young boys who aren't into many things?

Sincerely?

That's from Annie and Montana.

Speaker 5

HEYI girlfriend, Hey I girlfriend?

Speaker 4

Yeah I girlfriend?

Speaker 5

The love you need?

Speaker 3

An AI girlfriend?

Speaker 4

One of them has the easiest question you've ever gotten.

It's an AI girlfriend.

Speaker 3

Honestly, Oh my god, Big Sky Country.

Speaker 5

Yes, they absolutely can share.

One, could share the.

Speaker 3

Whole planet, could share one single AI girlfriend.

That's the power of AI.

That's why we're pouring money into the We're.

Speaker 4

All married to simone.

Speaker 5

What was the second brother do?

Speaker 3

He doesn't do anything, but he smokes spot hangs out.

Speaker 5

With about this.

For the DM brother.

You know how Steve Aoki throws a big sheet cake into the Yes, you can get the sheet cake for the one EDM brother to throw at the stoner brother and then he's got the munchies.

Speaker 4

He could eat that.

Speaker 5

Cake off himself two for one.

Yeah, And it's not like this guy has like I mean, there's a kid who is into EDM.

He doesn't have like huge crowds.

He probably just has the brother.

So he's gonna throw the sheet cake at a single person.

Speaker 3

I'd love to see Steve ak throw it just I could get one.

Speaker 5

Person just did the you know, just probably in the living room.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean I think that that kind of just ends.

I don't have anything to add to that.

Really, the AI girlfriend is free.

The cake is going to run her what twenty dollars?

She can have a nice message put on it for both of them.

Speaker 5

What is the sheet cake in Montana?

I think you could probably get one for we think we're single digits?

Speaker 4

Yeah, single, I think teens.

The ones that he got eight ninety nine plus task he does then by the time you check out, you're looking about twelve bucks.

Speaker 5

He does the bigger ones.

I was picturing him more like teen size.

Speaker 3

A teenat cake.

They're all the rage, the teen sheets.

I was recently, I had to buy a cake at a grocery store, and I was shocked by how cheap they actually are.

Speaker 5

Cakes are crazy.

That's that was part of my instinct.

Speaker 4

They've solved it.

Speaker 5

They're crazy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, if you go to the grocery store, a decorated object should cost a decent amount of money.

But then you're like, oh, this was nine dollars terrifying?

Speaker 5

How I don't know what something like that together.

Speaker 4

Right, teenage sheet Cake to the tune of teenenage dirt Bag.

Speaker 3

That songs I kind of do for a commercial parody or.

Speaker 5

When you're saying that song in the in the car.

I'm so relieved when you get to dirt because like you don't have to be pushing like the word through your nose as much right away, Sheet I have to like.

Speaker 3

Whole nasal passage collapses.

Well, we answered the question perfectly.

Don't write back in and I have my puzzle.

You have this, enjoy I'm glad you too finally agreed to be on the podcast.

Yeah, and uh, thank you for being here.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Listener, the podcast is over.

I have my puzzle.

You have nothing, Uh, find something to do with your day.

Please, I'm begging you.

I love you, goodbye?

I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production.

Our senior producer is on Alise Nelson and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.

The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner.

You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

And don't you want to see the gifts?

Speaker 4

I invit?

Speaker 1

Did you hear?

Funa man myself perfectly clear.

When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty.

And I said, no guests, you're.

Speaker 2

Our presences, presents, and I'm already too much stuff, So how do

Speaker 1

You dare to survey me

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