And I invited you here.

I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

And I said, no, guests, your own presence is presence enough.

I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?

Welcome to I said, no gifts.

I'm Bridger Wineger, Happy holidays.

It's the holiday episode, it's the big holiday episode.

What's going on?

Well, I think we should probably just address what's happening up top.

If you're listening, you aren't aware of what I'm currently wearing.

This was a network call.

This was what I'm currently wearing.

The network kind of said, if you don't wear it, the podcast will be canceled, the masters will be destroyed.

But if you're listening, what I would describe what I'm wearing.

People are obviously watching this on YouTube.

They already know the cat's out of the bag.

I mean kind of a tiny tim costume wearing kind of a mid thigh skirt.

Well, it's more of a dress.

Made out of what I assume is a flammable velvet, the white fringe and a little bit of itchy tool underneath.

Of course, got these gorgeous gloves on and the network, Yes, you know, they said put it on or the show goes.

I said, it's the holiday.

I'll make the threats.

I said, I'll walk if we don't get a snow machine.

Can we get the snow going?

Okay, so that's enough snow for now.

It's the holidays.

I believe this is our second holiday special.

We did one years ago, maybe twenty twenty one.

Is that right, Alice?

Alice, what are you wearing?

What is that on your head?

Just trying to be festive?

Take that off?

It looks ridiculous.

Alice is trying to pull focus.

No, this is our second holiday episode.

We would have done other years, but I was in jail, so we're trying to get back into the spirit of things.

It's a busy season, The holidays are hectic.

I'm trying to get everybody to refocus on what's really important.

Me.

Of course, there's the one big one for me.

I grew up with older Driver Safety Awareness Week.

That's kind of my big holiday.

That, of course, takes place in the beginning of December.

I think it's December fifth to how long is a week?

But if you missed it, you probably should just take a look at yourself, ask yourself, what sort of Christian am I?

I feel like it's almost everything.

Could we there's one more thing I'd like to talk about.

Could we get some more snow before me?

This is probably the most holiday oriented thing I'd like to talk about.

Snow.

Please.

Okay, if you're just listening, you're just getting the audio.

But there's some gorgeous snow falling, and it puts me in the mood to talk about.

Last night I watched an episode of Tabitha Takeover.

Now I'm back in my Tabitha bag.

I of course had watch all of tabitha Salon Takeover.

Tabitha does salon takeover.

It's just Australian woman that I kind of got hooked on last year and I powered through her salon takeovers.

She of course has the sequel, Tabitha's Takeover.

Last night I watched an episode, and Tabitha's Takeover is a little different.

They do more than salons, They do all sorts of small businesses.

So last night's Tabitha's Takeover was a salon and she was taking over a salon in I think it was Douglasville, Georgia.

And it was I believe it was called Pat's Hair Shop.

All kinds of things going wrong for Pat.

Half of her staff had walked.

The store was terrible.

She had all sorts of garbage furniture, kind of a troubled employee destroyed someone's dye job.

Tabitha actually had to step in and strip some of the hair from color from her hair.

But ultimately I think it was Tabitha was able to solve all of their problems.

I haven't looked into Pat's Hair Shop shoppe to see if it's still in business.

Elis is it still in business?

Any idea?

Let's look into Pat's Hair Shop in Douglasville, Georgia.

It's the holidays.

We should check in with our loved ones.

Yelper's report this location has closed.

We're sorry to hear that about Pat's Hair Shop.

Christmas is right around the corner.

That's one of the holidays.

If you need a last minute gift, I always say a Pfcheng's E gift card.

I assume you can get those between five dollars and probably thousands of dollars.

You just want to think about the recipient's general appetite for you know, chain Chinese food.

I think that is all of our business that we've needed to cover.

Again, our older drivers, Let's be aware of their safety, especially during the holidays, the roads are slippery.

I think we should bring our guests.

And it's a holiday special, so I said, we've got to have a couple old favorites, a couple real holiday sweethearts.

So let's let's demand some of my favorites come in.

So we've got Maria Thayer and ten Tran, two of my all time favorites.

Could we bring them in?

Oh, happy holidays, Happy, come on in, come on in.

Thank you, Oh, thank.

You so much.

I was just telling a listener this was a network call.

They said the show would be canceled if I didn't wear this.

What was your What was your pitch?

I had a very conservative I'm not comfortable with my body on camera, and I told them that several times in writing.

You're sitting like you're very comfortable with your body.

Well, I had to get comfortable with it quickly, because you know, I'm a professional.

With those legs, you should be comfortable with your body, and I'm glad to see them.

Those are like ballerina legs.

Cravy again, I have a gun trained on.

How are you too good?

You've got to put your gifts somewhere?

Sorry, this is the show.

The format of this show right now is so uncomfortable for the guests because they have no idea where.

To put that, and there's so many I know, we should, we should.

These are not real, I mean, not here we go, let's put those.

You two are so nice to bring things, and the staff was so cruel tops.

I'm fighting for my life there for my life.

Do you too care about the holidays?

I like the holidays?

Okay, I like the holidays.

I like spending time.

It stresses me out, though, I will say right, just like holiday planning logistics with my family.

Maria, I just called in a hurry, called.

Uh psychiatrist to get on anti anxiety medication yesterday.

Okay, we're okay for you.

This is a little intense.

I feel a little intensely about everything.

I need to protect my friends and family from my All I want to do is to a fight with someone else so I can.

Fight with either one of you.

It's because it hasn't kicked yet.

Well, this is the show for fighting.

I have already brought again, Yeah, is very tough.

Are you both traveling?

I'm my parents live like two hours south of here, so like, technically your parents, I'm doctoring my parents.

That's where they live.

My sister, actually older sister, she kept telling me that she was going to come, and I was like, okay, one of the dates, one of the dates, and she texted me yesterday to be like, we're coming to these dates, but we don't know if we're going to tell mom and dad because we want to surprise them.

And I'm like, stop, I don't know if that's you can't surprise someone at their house for a whole week.

That's a lot with a husband and two kids.

You can't surprise someone at their house for more than half an hour?

No, I agree, completely agree.

That's like a stop in.

Oh I was in the neighborhood.

Yes, Like yeah, I'm trying to figure out a reason to do that, Like why who was the perfect person to surprise for an entire entire week?

Hampton in they're trying to call Hampton now they're just calling it Hampton, trying to I'm not letting them get away.

Are they dropping the Inn because they feel like it doesn't feel.

Classic yeah, I think like this is like the elevated Oh.

Have Hampton in part in your name?

Yes, like except that, Yeah, we all know what we love it.

Yes, they paid so much money for someone to tell them to drop in, right, and.

Here comes here comes Bridger saying, okay, so your sister, did you come to a conclusion she I.

Think she's going to surprise my parents for god, well, they're big listeners to the show.

I know.

That's why I'm telling because I want to get the word mom, dad, please be ready.

They're coming the whole family, So get enough food for I don't know eight people.

That's such a huge, such a huge surprise.

It doesn't it doesn't make any sense at all good grief.

Is there a way that you can somehow like softly sort of prepare your family without without ruining it for your sister and her husband and.

Their children big surprise.

I think it would absolutely destroy the family dynamic if I ruined well surprise for my older sister.

Could you do could you do the grocery shopping in advance?

Yes, that kind of thing.

Okay, Now now you're I'm taking on the emotional labor of it.

And my therapist said not to do that.

Oh, I take on all.

Okay, that's why.

I have to get on anti anxiety.

Okay, wait, do you have siblings three?

Where do you fall in the birth order?

I'm uh, it's weird with four.

I'm middle, but the middle middle.

I'm middle as well.

How many do you have?

Four?

Four?

That's why we're that's why we Now.

Are you lower upper middle?

I'm I'm third.

What do you consider that lower middle?

Okay, then I lower middle.

I'm lower middle.

Yes, I say Hampton.

In Hampton, And you have one siblings.

I have one sibling who's younger, and I'm the oldest.

But I feel like the oldest has to do everything emotional, glue planning, sucking up ship.

I just feel like they.

I feel like my brother just like flounces around and just has a jolly old time.

And you're going to Montana.

I'm not going to Montana.

Christmas used to be our big holiday.

I never missed one ever, no matter what happened.

But after my brother had kids, then something rearranged, and now Thanksgiving is our big holiday and Christmas.

Can you know you kind of just wow?

Sorry, I don't mean that, like for real.

Obviously, Christmas is no, you're on record now, Christmas is the one true holiday.

It's they.

I just basically a gridge in a Christmas dress.

Why not good?

But is it because they want to be their own Christmas with their kid?

It's because the kids.

Now, the kids are the most important thing about the holidays.

It's just fine.

Love.

I mean, I love my nieces y.

Yeah we used to get a lot of attention, but now for that three year old.

But but yeah, so we just so the the.

Mother in law gets Christmas.

I don't know how this was.

I was not I was not consulted.

But so that's what happens and Christmas and Christmas is and my family is.

More loosey goosey, and.

My brother's my brother's married in family is more like straight lace and so how we plan is very different than how they plan.

And I think our planning style, which is just like.

Maybe we'll be there, I don't know, I would drive everyone crazy.

It's so we're like we're not like it's not we're not like we're not invited, but it's like it's just you're not invited.

And you can't you ultimately can't count on each other for anything.

So that's important, which is not which is anti the Christmas spirit?

I think having children is a real power move, and especially during the holidays.

It's the one I don't want children at all, but to be able to stay home for the holidays, you children are an anchor.

Then everyone has to come to you.

It's so powerful.

It's so powerful.

Sister, when she had kids, she was like, they will wake up at their home on Christmas.

Right, you can'thing you can do.

Unless you have like an extravagant thing you can do for them.

So it's really they've they've got us all hostage.

I can't say I have no reason not to go home for the holidays, So what do you?

Where are you going to Utah?

Which I obviously I have a good time, but it's never an option for me.

It's not like you come to me.

You always have to go there.

Yeah, they'd be like, why are we coming?

What are we have to move everything for you?

Of course I have to get on a plane.

I have to go through Burbank.

That's a smiled challenge for me.

So I don't know.

I can't believe even being so close to Burbank, the studio is so close to Burbank, makes me.

When I was driving here a Suburbank, it makes me.

It gives me such joy.

Oh my god.

Like I love Burbank Bank too fantastic.

Yeah, it's I can't.

I never.

I never.

I never go into Burbank and fly or come into Burbank without just being great.

No, I love it.

I live in a time with Burbank.

There's a lot of other problems, but Burbank Airport exists.

The last time I talked about this, I like a Burbank little shopping area.

I can go to ri I get some camping chairs and like Ohyd, I can get everything I need.

I can get a hose from Lows and lovely the hose from Lows, and camping chairs from ARII, and grab some Panda Express.

It's literally a wonderful afternoon.

Yeah.

I got some climbing shoes from.

ARII are climbing.

Ope, I did for a while.

Then I put my I froze my account.

So it's just been kind of ten dollars a month for me.

It's like a charity.

At this point.

I need to get back into it.

Are you bouldering, Yeah, it was bouldering for quite a while.

That's why those legs are so attract that's.

What permanent good legs from bolder.

No, it was for quite a while, and then for no, I had no actual excuse to freeze my account.

I just stopped.

But then I just found out that my bank has been charging me a ninety five dollars a month fee.

And I thought that could have been going towards bouldering.

So I reversed all the fees and now I'll start bouldering.

Wait, why are they why for what?

I'm glad I caught.

It keeping keeping it clean.

They do that, you keep it clean, you know, isn't there a bank fee?

That's like, we're just like, oh, just kind of an organic Yeah, like we're just checking on your account.

Interesting and then they charge you, yes, but I don't.

Whoh So they say that we're charging you to mop up your progress.

Now this was something.

This was something and I hadn't even noticed.

I was just looking at my account.

I was like, oh wait, this is new.

I got them on the phone.

They were wonderful to me.

I'm on the side of banks.

This is crazy, but I think banks are bad.

No greed.

There are two monopolized and Chase Bank can go the way of thanks reach out.

I think all banks are good and everyone should celebrate Christmas.

You're launching some sort of no I got them, I thank god.

I think I was saying this to someone recently.

I think that even bank employees are not on the side of banks at this point.

So you call them, You're like, I don't know where this came from.

Please reverse this for me.

They were so easy about.

Because you're nice.

Yes, as long as you're nice.

This is something that shocks me with service workers when they're so like, I can't believe you were nice to me, or I'm like, what is everyone else doing?

What if if you thank somebody had a drive through their eyes light up, because I think most people are just like they don't even hit the brakes on the drive through, they're just grabbing going through.

It's shocking to me.

It is the abuse that must be happening at the drive through window.

I can't imagine.

Have any of you worked like customers?

Okay, I worked at Arby's.

Arby I'm so jealous.

Oh why why are you jealous of it?

Because I love Arby's.

Oh, and then I won't talk about it.

What you have to say about Arby's We've got to get into the insulted chase.

Big Christmas.

You're taking down all the big.

The biggest biggies is extremely powerful.

It's so powerful outside of Banks.

It's like Banks.

Arby's.

Yeah, there's a lot to love about Arby's.

The Horsey sauce.

Okay, that's the one thing I don't care about.

The onion pedals.

Onion.

I think back in when I worked there, there was no onion pedals.

Okay, onion pedal.

This is innovation that sounds like something Arby's would have.

I'm pretty sure that I got onion pedals.

There is like an onion string.

Yeah.

Joa shakes.

I can get her to shakes.

It's like a chocolate coffee shake.

Yeah.

They have them all the time.

I don't think they're even seasonal time.

Not in Los Angeles of course, because they've closed down our final Arbys.

That's the last arby within the Los Angeles area.

It's devastating.

Best Arby's.

They had the best sign Yes, best time by far.

They had a listener.

If you're not familiar, you've really lost out on a life event.

But it's a giant cowboy hat and neon.

This says Arby's.

It's gorgeous.

They should preserve that, or something that should be put on top of the Netflix.

I'm sure someone has, oh my gosh, after we burn it down.

Yes, make a lot of holiday episodes, they do, and I feel like we're all gunning for a Christmas episode or a Christmas movie on Netflix.

They would buy that, they would buy that, and then anytime they open their movies, it's.

Like Netflix, Well, you know what my dream is.

My escorp is called Mervin's.

Are you too familiar with Mervin's?

Yeah?

Is it like the discount store.

It was like a discount department store.

Up until the early thousands, that was like mostly I don't know what their national strategy was because it was mostly West Coast, and then a couple throughout, probably like very small areas of New York or whatever, they all closed down.

Okay, And when I started an escort, you have to pick a name, and I thought, what better name than Mervin's.

And my lawyer looked into and he said, you can take it.

There might be a season desist at some point, but I was like, well, I'm taking it for now, and if I ever Hollywood reach out produce the show it'll we'll have the Mervins logo and cheapen everything.

No matter what I work on, it will be diminished by So there's not a single store left, no wow.

A lot of remaining buildings, of course, but no stores.

And occasionally, once, probably every two years, I'll get a piece of mail from like some sort of employment service or whatever, like demanding that Mervns pay that this employee or whatever, Like, oh wow, I'm just not that Mervyns.

How am I supposed to let the world.

How do they even find me?

I guess they look up.

That owes me money?

Get him, get him boys different Mervyns.

So I don't have the well, I probably have moremurvnt more money than Mervin's at this point, you.

Definitely did you love Mervin's?

Is that why you?

Or did you?

You know?

I have a lot of that you made that made you feel like you wanted to.

It's given my life a certain texture.

There were a lot of back to school shopping trips there.

There are a lot of memories of kind of wandering through their very dark department stores.

It like Filine's basement.

You what's this?

Oh?

You feel like you would have loved fil we spell Fileing.

I love that f I L E n E right Fileinge's basement.

She's so classy.

I just remember Phileine's Basement was a discount department store.

And the the main memory I have is that the dressing room had no private so it's just it was like a public shower.

It was like a public shower, just a bunch of women in one room, all ages, trying on like everything that they It is just like a barn.

It's just like a barn.

And it was wasn't like there was a place like it wasn't fin Leeds basement, but it was.

There's a place in New York City that was like that too, and I can't remember.

What it was now Entry.

And it was it was crowded with you like it it was not just that it was just a big room, but it was full of people like with sacks.

Yes, yeah, wow, this is a Now Murfins is starting to sound like top tier.

You man also be something where you'd be trying something on.

You'd be like, I don't like this, and someone would be like, can I try that?

So it's a sense of like ye, sense of community.

Yeah, it's really it was.

Like the dressing rooms in America, everyone each other drawing on discount clothes, but you two would shop there first.

I don't feel like we had any of those in Utah.

Sounds a little immodest, to be honest, and like with the prevailing culture, and you talk about like probably don't want to get dress undressed in front of other people.

We would have Mervin's.

We would have dress barn.

Okay, rough name for any closing business dress barn, but Mervin's r I P.

They tried to become Murvins California at one point.

Try to spice it up with the calf.

I want to know if that ever works, Like, is Hampton Right doing better as Hampton's Hampton Hampton's Hampton Hampton's.

That would have been an interesting move.

Okay, they're trying to confuse people deliberate.

Wow, Actually that's genius.

I'm going to Hampton and no one would well, no one would correct us.

They mean they would be like, you mean Hampton's.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's kind of witness protection vibe.

Well, if they switched names every single year, I think that would probably be a good business plan because people would be like, what's this new business.

It kind of reminds me of Hampton In, but it seems to be something better the Ritz, the Rits.

Hampton In becomes Hampton Hampton's and then their fourth choice is the Rits.

Wait, so we were talking.

I do need to circle back to Arby's for just a minute because it seems like there were some horror stories about oh god, this is I'm not liking what you've seen.

I feel like I've already thought I have an image of what the Arby's back kitchen is like.

And I've heard myths, rumors.

Yeah, really, I've heard maybe confirmed, some rumors, some urban legends.

What what they What I heard is that the meat comes as a liquid.

That's yes, yes it doesn't.

Well, yes it does.

I'm not a total.

Liquid but I but I don't know how because they roasted okay and it becomes it solidifies for sure.

Meat.

But my first day there, my and through me a a meat.

It comes in bags through me, and it was like it was like sort of it was sort of it was just sort of like this, like listeners, I'm just as if you had a bag that was made.

Out of jelly and you're you're trying to hold it, but it's slipping.

Like one of those, like one of those the snakes that you can't Okay.

That's a little want my meat a little bit, But you know, I don't know, I don't.

I mean, this was, this was, you know, eighty years ago when I worked there, so so I think it's I think it's I think it's probably changed.

But did you ever see it outside of the bag?

I never said.

I'm trying to do the math here.

It gets roasted, At what point does the big question?

And then does it turn into this?

It turns into a thing that is on the slicer.

I know, I don't.

I was never allowed near the slicer when I work.

I was.

More of a fry fry and ordering person.

But I was a bad back then.

I would daydream too much, just as a rule, and so when people would like tell me their order, I would just like, I could not concentrate on what they were saying, so I would just sort of daydream about whatever I was daydreaming.

Probably not long did you work there?

Half an hour.

Was back for her half hour shift.

I don't know.

I don't know how long I worked there.

Not too long.

I mean that probably the regular rb is amount, which is probably you know four months, right, that's like that's a that's a that's after that you get a pension.

It is very but I just wouldn't remember anything that.

Anyone said, and so I would just like sort of right like ring up what I thought that they might want, and it was always wrong.

Of course.

So then they put me on like the friar which was named Big Bertha, which is that they did give it that fun name, and so that I'm just like in the back with you know, a little hair nut.

Anyway, I just it was not a it was.

Not a I don't want this to become the Rby's episode, but it's just everything you say it like brings up more questions for me.

Did you ever after learning that the meat was essentially slime?

Did you ever have the meat again?

Of course I was okay, Well, then I feel a little more comfortable about it.

It was fourteen I would have eaten slime.

Then becomes like DELI, this is.

All a really good there's a really good questions that I cannot answer because I just I noticed it and then I don't know, it just didn't.

Is it like when you make paper from wood?

Pulp or creepy crawlers.

Do you remember creepy crawlers.

It was like it was kind of like easy bake oven for boys, and it was like a little thing that you would dump slime into different bugs and then bake them and then it would become a delicious roast beef.

Oh you can eat it.

There would be like a little slant like a little rubber toys.

But this is what that's kind of what I'm picturing with the Arby's slide.

Yeah, maybe that's.

But I just don't know how it'd be like solidified.

And I don't know why, like as a company is like just do that as a factory.

Or also why that's like an that's an extra step.

It's a huge extra.

You're gonna you're gonna make the beef.

You're gonna roast it, you're gonna slice it, you're gonna liquefy it, and then you're gonna re reanimate it to slice.

Right, Maria, Now I feel like you've just come on to kind of souley the name of Arby's.

They have good chicken fingers there fingers, I was there, okay, or onion pedals.

It was almost I'm pretty sure.

I got onion pedals there.

I love the name onion.

It's gorgeous.

No, it's really beautiful.

It doesn't fit with the rest of the Arby's menu, I feel, I mean, if you're going roast beef, sandwich, chicken ted.

This is look.

I love Armies, but the one thing I'll say is that the menu has been a little all over the place over the years.

I guess that's why I don't.

Yeah, right, I feel like there's I mean, Burger King is way more offensive.

Like they're bigger offenders on this part where they have a new menu item probably daily.

Yeah, Army's, it's like quarterly they have a new menu outside of the chicken fingers and roast beef.

They're like, suddenly we have onion pedals, and so I believe they had onion pedals.

I believe you.

Thank you, I see you, and thank God.

Seriously.

Also, if you're wrong, you should patent that on Oh my god, a poem, okay, and.

To write a poem.

Other poets are coming for you.

Okay, you're right, this is my time.

The industry is crazy right now, and I really could get into poetry.

We're all getting into pivoting to poets.

So beautiful.

Oh, my gosh, I also want to but I do want to say that I love I do love the taste of Arby's.

And my god, you're in good company.

It's I I think I ate Arby's.

Within the last five years.

I let's say, I think I me Arby's, and I ate and I loved it.

I've been to I went to the Hollywood Arby's almost exclusively alone.

It was just a sad no, I've been there in the last five years, I would say, And I love their Arby's reach out open one in Los Angeles.

Curly fries, I do love curly Curly fries are so good.

They are really And you've been suspiciously quiet about how much you love Arbies.

I honestly, I don't mean to go back to the onion medals, but that's kind of all I remember eating the sand I can't remember the last time I've had Arby's.

I'm really sorry.

That's fine, that's fine, fine that you know it could be a new chapter.

Did you were ever work in fast food in your I worked, and I worked at a barbecue restaurant.

Oh, what's the name of Damon's Barbecue.

It was Honestly, it was pretty good barbecue rest It was a pretty good barbecue restaurant.

And did the meat come solid or liquid?

It came fully solid?

Okay, yes, full solid, which is a really good question.

I'm going to be asking restaurants from now on, every every single one, excuse me, is the meat liquid?

I will be coming.

I'm not coming if it's not liquid?

You ask on.

I showed up and it was.

It was solid, and.

I'm pretty sure it was before it was on my plate.

Yeah, I don't like this.

No, I used to work at I don't I did anyone?

Did you have you heard of Damon's.

It's a chain, but it's also it was like a sports barbecue restaurant.

So it had like four big, big projection screens playing like football, basketball, sports.

You know, this is the only sort of restaurant I'll go to.

I know, you love You'll catch me at the sports bar sports barbee.

And it's it's hard to work at a sports barbecue restaurant because like people don't even more so paying less attention to you as a server.

Oh, because they've got the because they got the big.

Game on yea and they're probably in a bad mood.

And they're in a bad mood, and they're drunk and and they're kind of mean and like you're bringing their food.

It's almost I almost felt like an early version of the Alamo, you know how, like, oh, because draft house, Davy Crockett died or whatever.

I was like, WHOA got famous.

Ball and write that down in his history.

I remember the Alamo because that's where Davy Crockett.

Let's assume I.

Think so.

You're a historian first, Arby's employees, sick historian.

First, I just want to say that, yes, Davy Crockett did die in the battle.

Wait, can you look up onion pedals and see while we're in the research court, WHOA Davy Crockett died at the Alamo?

I mean, who?

I don't even know who that?

Who?

Didn't die at the album?

He was the guy with the hat, right, yeah, yes, interesting coonskin.

Right now, I'm I was at the Alamo in twenty nineteen, and I'm pretty sure they sold a lot.

I'm such a fool.

How didn't I put that all together?

It's okay, okay, there's a lot of things I don't know.

This is embarrassing, especially during the holidays, not to know where Davy Crockett died.

Wait, actually, now we all do.

Everyone's learning.

This is an education.

Christmas is the time to celebrate Davey Crockett.

Yes, and to learn just about Ellis onion pedals.

They were a popular, discontinued side dish featuring lightly battered petal shaped onion woods.

Okay, this is huge for me.

Popular and also removed from the menu around twenty ten.

So maybe they were they poisonous?

Like what.

Popular?

And were they recalled?

No?

See, this is Arby's big problem.

It's like we hear the word popular and discontinuance like I mean the wheel.

I feel like Arby's is like you know, tagline is Arby's popular.

But you can't get it anymore and part of the menu is liquid before you eat it.

Okay, so you were working at Dane's Barbie, it was.

Like the Alamo draft hoops where you had to like serve like huge people would get full racks of ribs and I would have to serve full racks, like four full racks on a huge tray, and I don't have upper body strength.

It was like this.

That's why we brought you here too, Yeah, because I need to start thing or whatever.

It's clicking is when you just walk off a cliff and you only get to do it once, but you don't care about it.

You don't care, you just do it.

I'm going.

Is that a threat?

Go by anxiety?

Wait?

So you it was hard to lift off?

So hard?

It's like you know flint Stone level was right?

Yeah?

Or I put it on the table and it tips the table right exactly.

Do you have any mishaps like that?

Thankfully?

No, I never I like pride myself on having never ever dropped a tray.

I feel like you would be.

I was very hard pore about it.

Yeah, what you didn't have an arms strength?

You would work out of balance.

Yes, wow, that's amazing to hear.

I love to hear that.

Did you have to do that thing?

Where that the Alamo draft House?

When people when people are watching that, they sort of like around.

You don't like about Almo depressing?

It's a bad business model.

Yes, it makes me feel depressed.

It throws everyone into a weird mood.

I'm trying to watch the movie.

There's a distraction.

Yes, I've never had the food, but I assume it's fine at best, it's great.

Okay, it's great.

I mean I love it.

Okay, so you're you're in there making people go.

I'm like lower lower serving me.

You just love people serving?

Yeah, you love me crawling to you don't look at me, and it feels so weird.

You love it?

I love it.

I mean when I say bad business model, it is well.

Actually I think they went bankrupt.

Did they really?

There was some financial issue It seems like or they were bought out by private equity, as everyone.

Is private equity.

Go away, Alice?

Do we know what happened with go Away?

Light day?

Private banks day rip lame private equity?

Oh well, I mean I have.

More questions about all of especially Arby's, and I do just want to during the holidays we should mention the goblets, the limited edition goblets you could get at Arby's.

I can't believe neither of you.

I don't know about that at all.

Go to a goodwill you'll find one.

They had every year they had different limited edition gobleinets.

But that feels like it doesn't align with the cowboy hat theme.

Well again, who's the wheel?

At once a year?

They made it nice?

We were the goblets made out of plastic or glass?

I'm sure glass.

The gorgeous goblets.

I love it themes sometimes they had movie themes.

Beautiful, but I think we should talk about something else.

Okay, okay.

I was excited to have you two here for the holidays.

I thought, no one will ruin the holidays for me this year, especially Tian and Maria.

Uh So I invited you here on the show.

I said no gifts, and for the last half hour or so, I've been seeing because you walked into the studio holding what are clearly gifts.

Are these for me?

Yes?

Okay, fine?

Should we open them here on the podcast?

Yes you should.

Yeah, okay, you're.

Grinding my teeth to dust, I didn't wear my nightguard.

We'll open this first one on top.

Who's this from?

This is for me?

Okay, yeah, hand it.

This is kind of an Alamo situation.

This is surprisingly heavy.

Yes, yes, it's it's a it's a.

Yes, it is surprising to.

You, and I want you to experience how heavy that is.

Oh my god, I did not.

Now.

I'm glad you've been bouldering, because otherwise you would have been able to.

No.

I would say this is probably a good two pounds and it's not that big.

It's kind of I.

Want to go.

Last time you were I brought a gift and you were so enraged.

I didn't want to.

It's part of the studio designing listener, it's a if you are so cruel not to remember it's a seed design that Maria made.

Uh, this is murder Seed wrote and it's Angela Lansbury with a magnifying glass and scarf.

It's gorgeous and it's now part of the permanent studio design.

And your gift, unfortunately, is in a little drawer in my house.

It was bangs.

I experimented with them.

Didn't work for me, but I heard.

You looked good.

I thought you looked really good.

Well maybe I'll try it again.

Okay, let's open this here.

Okay, both of these, by the way, beautifully wrapped gifts.

Thank you you really you two went all out.

Okay, we're opening.

Can we have the snow while I'm opening this?

There's the snow going.

Oh no, oh my god, Happy holidays.

Okay, that's incredible.

That is incredible.

Or do you get something like that.

That's a good question.

Probably, I don't know.

Probably at your local gas station or something.

Okay, I bet they do sell that dinner forks is a pack of twelve a pack of twelve mirror polish.

Look, I don't know.

I know that this is a boring gift, but this is a gift that I would want to get because I don't know how you feel about but I can't keep forks in my house.

Okay, I knew I would say things like that.

I knew that would happen.

So this is just me.

It's not just me, because I talk to another friend and she had the same problem.

I don't know where they're going.

I don't know where they're going.

You know, maybe I'm just like throwing them out willy nilly, But honestly, I can't keep forks.

I have two forks, two forks in my.

House, and then I'm constantly I have so many knives, so many knives.

I have the opposite problem.

I have really two butter knives, and I have always had more room for forks.

So let's be honest, this is a great deal.

I might ask for them back, but I do have this problem.

With butter knives.

But this is my defensive butter knives.

Occasionally you're like I need to pry something open in the backyard, or I need to scrape something.

You throw it away?

Of course, why everything I own is one use?

TVs?

Cars, clothing?

Are you doing with your sowre question?

Again, I'm defending myself here.

I use it as a tool more than a I'm not scraping a lot of butter onto toast, I guess.

But your forks, this is.

Are you bringing them to lunch?

I'm not.

I'm not I'm not bringing I'm not consciously bringing that out of the Who knows what I'm doing.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't, I don't they're they're I just I don't think this is a just me problem.

I really don't.

I'm glad that it's not a problem.

I don't think it's just me.

Problem is I don't have enough data to support Oh gosh, if this is a universal thing.

Yeah, this, I mean, they're out of three people here, two of them have a lot of forces.

Yeah, I have so many for you have more forks than anyone.

Yeah, I've just essentially doubled my swimming at forks.

Yeah, I have to like run, I mean I can't.

I'm constantly fishing them out.

I really do, really have just three forks, two or three forks, and I'm constantly putting them in the dishwasher and then I'm like, I need a fork.

I'm wiping it off.

How many do you think you have a home right now?

Forks?

Forks three?

I think I have three?

What's your spood?

What are your spoons?

Like spoons?

Have a million spoons?

Well, Maria, you can't take I can't take all of this I'm going to give you.

Is this the first time you've given Look at how there and now you gave me a gift?

Well, look, I control the podcast, I control what happens here to me, and I know you're jealous.

How many forks do you have?

I have?

I am flushed with forks?

Well you should have?

Yes, yeah, chow, but you're losing first.

I mean, I'm mister holiday, mister holiday, thank you, thank you.

Wow, So you're losing all of your forks.

This to me is this sort of gift I'm thrilled to get because I'm not having a wedding.

I'm never having a wedding, and I think, you know, people are so spoiled at weddings with things that you don't really buy.

I agree.

You know you're getting all sorts of appliances things that you're like, I don't want to buy that for myself.

You're like, you don't need a fucking standing mixer.

You're never gonna make lighting.

Okay, fine, sorry I brought it up.

That's listen.

I know so many people that have like put that on their wedding registry and I don't think they've made it.

They're like, I've made pasta one time.

Well, the pasta attachment is like it not putting it in kitchen maid.

No one's making the pasta exactly.

They might make dough or something, but the pasta thing gets thrown in a drawer and is never used again.

I completely agree.

Homemade pasta is such an ambitious thing to do.

It's it's I find it kind of like pompous.

It's ridiculous.

It's just it's not that much better homemade pasta, and like dry pasta.

Is that true?

I feel like I feel like forty years ago I made a made homemade pasta.

It is really good.

What sort of pasta?

Long pasta?

It was one street just looped around.

It's incredible, be like a mile away oh, so.

One person starts like across town with the spaghetti and the other person they end up uh, absolutely in love, Absolutely in love.

That's interesting.

That feels like something someone should try.

Actually, like a big o oh.

I could see that as some like Instagram sort of video.

Every day, I'm gonna keep eating this plasta till I meet my love.

Like that's what That's what I am at.

Do you know that?

Like, do you have you seen videos like that?

Like I'm gonna walk around the world until I meet my love.

No, But like there are people there's a man that I thought, there is a man that I follow on Instagram.

I do actually really love him.

He's walking around the world.

Wait, this is the guy who's been doing it for like twenty seven years.

I just saw that guy.

This is a difference.

It is a different guy.

This is a guy who ripped off that guy.

This is a guy who talking.

He's been on now for I'm trying to I'm trying to listen to his voice in my head because I think he's like day seven hundred and ninety eight.

Yeah, Oh that's that's a press.

Yes, where is he?

Where do you start?

He's started in Australia and then walked up and I think he's now in Oh gosh, I should know this Georgia.

Okay, So he got to the edge of Australia and then took a boat and walked around the boat the entire time.

And then I didn't sit down, and then and then is now walk It's really, it's actually really, I'm really impressed.

I don't know.

My complaint here is like, don't start on Australia because then you immediately have to like start in South America so you can walk all the way out that.

He started there.

Yeah, he just went through like up coasts and right.

You want to start with at least two continents without a yeah comment.

I'll comment, this isn't a real walk around the world because you had to take a boat.

But he's going, he's going.

He just wants to meet is he like he's not meeting The love part is I've just had three dates a day just whenever he meets on.

The road, he's looking for someone to drive him.

After that, I would meet my love in like in like a week ago.

Immediately I know I can't walk anymore.

This guy said the phrase meet my love like that's also is a strange thing.

I've never said anything like that before.

Meet my love, My love.

Would be good.

Rby's slogan mee, I love trying to.

Save the company.

Right, he's not really trying to save the company, but he's walking around the world.

He's walking around the world, which always feels like kind of a scam to me.

Does he he should swim?

Also, he's not swimming anytime a machine comes in, he's not swimming.

If a machine is involved, then it's just not for me.

That is just someone who's a little bored.

Okay, I don't know.

I'll tell him.

Okay again, that's if a machine is should not be a machine involved.

But how is there a machine involved?

Because he just because he had to take like I see, because you know, he should swim.

I think he should get to the edge of the continent that he's doing just a land base.

Yes, I need him to experience every element.

Yeah you if I'm going to send it to you, you're gonna lie in.

Okay.

Well, I can also just go like in circles around Australia until he gets into the middle of Australia.

Oh interesting, and then dies and then cliffs and then and then cliss up.

I think.

I think that's a better idea again, write that down.

Three comments so far they need to get meaner and more racist.

So let's do that, person, I will do that.

Okay, So the fat did we over got to spaghetti?

Kitchen aid mixer.

I do think that's a good wedding gift.

I think that's a good gift for anyone.

Oh my god, I love it.

Because everyone I know that has it is not using it often.

Do you have to use it for you to feel like they're youth?

It?

O?

Good question.

I feel like if you have a kitchen aid mixer that you should be using it once a quarter.

Once a quarter, that's a I don't think that's asking too much.

I don't think if you if you use it three times a year, then you're not using it enough.

No, I don't think.

So throw a fourth time in and it's like at least for every season.

Every season you made something.

Yeah, there's like a holiday that you celebrate with your kitchen aid mix or a cookie or pie in your.

Kitchen celebrating the holiday that you guys use special It's crazy, guys.

So do you have a kitchen aid mixer.

I don't.

Okay, well that's the problem.

It's a jealousy, jealous jealous about a queens and art.

I do have a queens of art.

I don't have one of those.

What does that do?

It just chops and dices, just chops and it makes Also, yeah, you can.

You can get like a dough attachment.

That seems unnatural to me.

It seems like what sort of dough it is?

Whipping it up so strong?

Right?

Yeah?

Yea, and over it.

That's tough.

Yes, it is a tough cook it's not.

Its first thing is to make like a Pico de gao exactly right.

I think pesto, delicious pasto.

I think I owned something that's like a quisin Art.

It's just a chopper, yeah right, okay, I barely use that, so I'm kind of the opposite.

But you're making dough in your queisin.

Art one time?

Yeah, but I use it for everything else, like I use it for sauces.

Go to gyo.

What sort of dough did you make?

We just made cookies recently.

It was a pumpkin oat meal cookie.

It's nice.

It was nice fall based.

Yeah, it was nice, right, And Marie, I feel like you are a little more in favor of a quis or of a kitchen.

Eight are you making dough in yours?

I've made?

Yeah, I probably made dough.

And I think I made some dough.

I don't remember.

I think I made I made some biscuits recently, and I don't know if I used the quisin art or not, but I use it.

I have a quisin Art in all, so I have a mini queis and art for just small.

Things like what a single nut?

Like last night I used that's well, but last night I used it for a fetet dip that I made what.

Well, feta obviously lemon, lemon, rined garlic and a lot of pepper.

And for like a pita it was for roasted uh squash.

Oh that's what happened for mesh when you serve it on a bed of a whipped pa Oh.

Incredible.

Was this for an event or just yourself?

No?

A friend came over for dinner and but but then he told me that he didn't like cheese, which I knew before you.

But he likes pizza.

So I'm constantly my best friend constantly trying to push him more cheese, because cheese.

Is cheese is a pretty universally enjoyed product.

I know I now understand cheese now because I didn't grow up with like I grew up eating a lot of Vietnamese food.

There's cheese based you're not getting like cheesy fu.

Right, No, it's not.

A bad idea.

I think it would be.

That's like a cheese beef soup and sounds nice.

Does it sounds like an Arby sandwich?

It does sound like an Arby sandwich.

Cheese beef soup.

They serve it in the goblet.

You gotta just drink it.

But yeah, So when did you first start really getting into cheese?

Like college, I started to understand and was it hard to get into?

I was open to it.

I'm open to it, and I'm still getting like being introduced to cheeses.

But you're not a cheese lover yet, I think I would.

I love a bree.

I love a brea that I can like always be like I love breath.

Right?

Is there a cheese you won't do?

No, I'll try all of them.

Okay, I'll try all of them.

Really stinky ones I haven't quite figured out yet.

Right those ones are I can't imagine anyone eating those for the first time and enjoying them.

Yeah, they're a little intents.

I haven't quite gotten there yet.

I've only in the last five years come around to blue cheese.

Wow, yeah, me too, my beginning of the difficult cheeses.

Are you a blue cheese?

Any cheese, any cheese at all?

Incredibly stinky cheeses?

Any any cheese, like the stinkiest cheese you've ever I don't remember names of businesses or cheeses.

Or okay, fine, but your friend came over.

You knew he didn't like cheese.

You still made a cheese based It's so funny like it.

No, he did it, he didn't like it was yeah, fair, it's fair.

And then I said, I said do you?

I said, do you?

What just happened?

Something?

Something clift somebody got left.

Oh, this is the ghost of Chris Fleming.

He was the last person in this room, and this is the gift he gave a while ago.

But now, oh my god, we're haunted.

Everyone is haunted by Chris Fleming at some point.

Oh, I love him.

We love Chris Fleming, except for when he's haunting a holiday episode the ghost of.

Podcast Gun.

You Have.

It's honestly, you're too careful about it.

It is so it feels very natural to you.

It's when I when I when I, uh my dad got me a gun that was like that think Derringer when I got into college.

And do you still own it?

I can't remember.

I got stolen out of a car, that's right, Which is so I myself constantly.

Because it probably has been used to kill someone.

Yes, no, for sure you're going to be framed.

I didn't think about that.

Yeah, if someone still think, yeah, you what if you came in and I had a little.

What a mystery solved?

Scary?

Oh did someone give you that?

Yes?

This was given on the podcast actually by Lizzie Cooperman.

Oh wow, Okay, that's really good.

Did it have little?

Uh?

It came with nothing.

It was ultimately a bad gift by her.

It should have had a bullet or a little pellet or something.

What are the they have like little things that make sounds?

Right?

What are called?

I don't think it's always there for us and we know what it is.

It's a I know what you're saying, Elic.

You have any idea what the sort.

Of gun is called?

It's a toy cap gun cau but let's make a satisfying click.

It does.

I know, it's right into a little handbag.

Did you have anything like that when you're growing up, real guns or toy guns, but that kind of gun would be.

Oh joy killed joys.

Absolutely killed joys.

We would have nerf guns, which you know, fired the We had super soakers, super soakers.

It does hurt when you got shot.

No, super soccers were just like you fill a thing with water.

It was just a water gun and then it would break and then it would break almost one time use again, which I love.

I support plastics that are one time use.

Did you have guns growing their guns?

But then we also had like cap guns like that, and we also had BB guns.

Did you shoot the guns?

We shot them?

Yeah, I shot all the guns, but yeah, but the BB guns, Like my brother shot me with the BB gun and that hurts.

Yeah, I mean I grew up in a culture of guns.

My brothers both had BB guns.

I think at some point my parents there was a vibe coming from me whether they're like, well, we don't need to get him one of those.

They didn't know what it was.

They were like, for whatever reason, we don't think he needs a gun.

I've gone paintballing.

That's like the paintballing.

Yeah, it hurts.

Can I take it again?

Take it again?

Christmas?

It freaking sucks.

It was part of a bachelor party.

It's always part of it.

It's always part of a bachelor party.

And like the only lesbian at the bachelor party.

And it hurts.

Yeah, it probably you're you're like so scared.

I was scared, But I.

Think that's kind of important.

Otherwise the game is not that fun.

It's important to be scared of all times of your life, to never stop worrying constantly.

One second I thought I could be good For one second.

I was like I could get low and kind of run around and hide.

And no, it was shot you.

Oh I don't remember who?

And did it hurts?

It hurt?

Like and where did they shoot you?

In my arm?

Yes?

And I stopped.

I was like, I'm I was like, I'm not doing And is it like a winner the winner is the last person standing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you.

I definitely think that I would do this.

If I had to play paintball, I would start out just being like shoot me so I could get like me.

I don't want to spend.

I know I'm not gonna win, and I don't want to spend like an hour or however long it takes being scared that someone's gonna hit me in the head with a and like whatever and can cuss me.

That describes my end of the world's opinion, Like the moment it happens, just like, Okay, I'm done.

We don't need to survive for that.

No, I don't want to be I don't want to scam and defend myself in any way.

I can like.

Lucid dream so when I'm when I'm dreaming about somebody trying to kill me, I purposely run towards them.

And I'm not joking, so I can like get it over with, you know, And then I know, like I know, I know it's just a dream and I'm just like I'm just gonna let this person, it's a guy, always kill me, kill me and stab me or whatever whatever he wants to do, and then I'll be old.

It'll be over with this away from I know that what is normal.

I don't know problem solving.

Would you escape people in your dreams?

Well, I know I don't wake up, you just wake up.

I was wake up.

Yes, if something scary is happening, I remember just being like wake up.

Wow.

Yes.

All I want is to be able tolucid dream and I can't.

It's interesting to me that, like within the world of like you're dreaming and you could do literally whatever you want, some one has a gun and you don't like then become.

Really strong and like bight turn.

You know what that is interesting?

It works.

It works for my personality, I think.

I think that is what I'm like.

No, I've tried to train myself to lucid dreams.

They tell you that, like, uh, in real life, you should like if you see text or numbers, you should look at them, look away, then look at and make confirm that they're still there.

Because I guess you can't do that in dreams.

Like in a dream, if you were to do that, you would look and it would be a different thing.

Oh, you're supposed to take do dream journals.

Barely did that, so I guess I'm not trying very hard.

I think journal after you, yeah, write down.

What you wrote, And I've never been able to get into it, and I want maybe I want it too bad.

Yeah, you have to be a little more likely, Yeah, you have to be like, I don't want to dream.

I can't constantly respond to the text.

Yah, take a few weeks of.

Yeah, right now, this is me.

Let me lose.

Listen, I'm holding a gun to the camera.

You're missing out.

Gather the TV around the computer.

It's the holiday TV.

Gather the TV around the computer.

I'm so drunk.

Gather the family around the computer YouTube dot com.

Okay, well, I've given you each forks.

I have this bounty of forks that I get to take home with me.

Should we open the next gift?

I would like to see this.

Okay, right, this is lighter than I expected.

I was hoping for something really dance.

Okay, it just happened to have both holiday wrappings, you both.

That's amazing.

Actually, the two people, totally different people had holiday rapper.

I didn't have to go get it.

You that you asked to be on the holiday special.

Right, But for me, I'd be like, oh yeah, I have a paper bag.

Yeah, or oh wow, I found some old birthday wrapping papers.

So God bless both of them.

Good Christians, That's what I'm saying.

Okay, oh, let's see where do this is what you've given me?

A trick box.

I think it was me.

Where does the box it should be a little flip open.

Well that's where you're okay right there, right there?

Oh I have to oh, well you're still wrong.

Okay, different, joyful, Okay, pulling it up.

Whoa, this is interesting.

Okay, this is where the podcast is magical podcast.

It's a pamphlet called Meets for Men.

Yes, is this a recipeople, It is a recipe book nineteen fifty four.

Oh my god, I believe just does the say general motors on the back on the back.

Of the let's see Western election.

Election And it is just insane.

This is this might have the original Arby's b for us honestly everything.

It's like kind of crazy, very heavy meat forward.

I love I thought you would really like it.

I feel like it just like kind of and look look at how those things are combined where this is all combined.

For me Arby's meats, and I love that it just meets for men.

Yes, women not allowed, women not allowing meat.

This is not for the gals.

No, but it is for the gals to make I believe they to say that.

And then I like the two men that are on it.

Because thestration is amazing.

Yes, those are the only type of men that exist exists.

Yes, I'm both of them.

Yes, in every one of us, there are two men, and it's both of these men.

Yes, it's both of those men.

Wow, one has a bow tie, one has some sort of weird balding pattern.

Yes.

And and I love that it says meats for men, And in that there's a sub caption that is favorite meat.

T eight favorite meat dishes for Men, with hints for hamburgers, steaks for a man, tricks with leftovers, and stew's fit for a king.

Oh and I thought of you.

I love that.

I You've got to pull these together in some way.

Let's look at these recipes.

Let's see pot roast with vegetables, beef stroking off, London broil, beef stew, beef kebab, if you got I feel like this is a thing, like if you found a discount on beef London broiled broiled steak.

This is where did this come from?

I found it at a little like vintage store like force like kind of like a pack of recipe book.

And I saw that and I was like, this is perfect.

It does and I bought two and because there were two of these.

This is the thing that I have found across two different things.

Like I have one for myself whoa that I bought at a different in Chicago.

This one I found in Champagne.

Wow, because I was like, I will have to give this.

I think I could give this to someone.

And when you, when you texted me, I was like, this, this is the moment.

This is now.

We're tied forever.

Yes, whenever one of us is making a beef dish, will when we.

Text you and'll be like, do you want to do a veal broil?

Do you want to do a stuff pork chops with banana saute?

Exactly?

Know, the recipes are kind of gross.

Veal chops California kind of amrvans California situation.

Wow.

The loaf, yeah there, I mean this is kind of the decade I think es.

Yes, hints for hamburgers.

Like barbecue hamburgers with like tomatoes looks, Oh my god, those looks still liquified.

Actually they look.

Yeah, that's a mess.

That's disgusting.

It is gross.

Let's say barbecued hamburgers.

This is salad oil.

One of the rest of One of the things you need is salad oil and a quarter cup of sugar.

We all love our sweet bergers.

I love to bite into.

Let's see here, let's see tricks with leftovers.

We can get a baked meat, puff, meat and cheese, sandwich, broil.

It's good advice is good gravy This is brought to you by a fire truck.

When gravy from the roast, you're lying people bleeding's too dry.

Gravy when gravy from the roast runs short.

Tried this, you stupid asshole.

Used canned bu leon or boon made from cubes for each cup.

Is how I think a bullion?

No, I think it's.

Used to tablespoon's flour mixed with a little and that's itally sized.

Little.

Don't overdo it with the cold water.

Stirn too bouleon cook until thickened.

So I guess it's one of these things where it's like, well we have a tablespoon of flavor.

Yes, now make beef colored water, yes, which is for emergency.

That's in a mesh.

And your husband's man and he wanted gravy, And you're like, well, I didn't think that far ahead.

I don't know.

Men.

You turn to meats for men.

This is unbelievable.

You're a big barbecuer, aren't.

I'm a big barbecuer.

So this is kind of barbecue?

Yeah, yeah, I love I kind of love meat.

Meat.

Did it start with Damons?

It didn't start with Damon's.

Like my my growing up the weekend, my parents loved doing like Vietnamese barbecue, and so like from there, I've just always kind of love Like my mom would make incredible ribs and chicken wings in like a fish sauce sort of based marinate uyuni lunchtime, and then I would I loved grilling, oh okay, and so I still and what is it called?

Not tang uh?

What is it?

What is it when you put meat in a mar And yes, I love a marinade.

So how often are you cooking a big meat meal?

I mean, my wife would like it to be less, but it is.

Not a man.

No, she's not a man.

So she's on the right path.

She is on the right path.

Probably like I think I grew probably like once a week.

That's amazing, crazy, that's okay, Okay, I.

Think that I would love for somebody to grill for me once a week, And yeah, I do.

I think I do do that.

Wow, And do you have like a famous recipe?

Do you say here comes famous that like.

I have adapted.

I can't make the ribs to taste exactly like my because you never can.

It's so hard.

But that is like amongst my friends, that's the one that is the one that people remember what.

Sort of things we're putting in the marinade.

So it's brown sugar, honey, soy sauce, low sodium soy sauce, and a little bit of a little dark soy sauce.

So I think that's just me trying to be like heart health healthy, Okay, even though it's even though it's bad meat brill.

Something I'm gonna take care of, something that'll makes sense, I understand.

And a little fish sauce for that little like kind of ineffable and an onions, garlic, salt and pepper, what about some and a little ketchup ketchup right, a little ketchup that makes sense within a like a barbecue sauce.

Yeah, and it's like very a little sweet, little savory.

And yeah, I used to make it all the time and I still do.

But that is what I like to make.

So jealous do you grill at all?

Well, I have a grill.

I don't you just turn it?

Yeah?

Yeah, no, I but I have started to get into like I've gotten gotten it and I want to ask you where you get your meats because I've started to like go in different places to get me like, you know, like meats that are that are raised on the little farms and stuff.

Socall, we've talked about that cookbook and Lazy Acres is the other place that.

Lazy which is kind of Bristol Farms.

Junior, Yes it is.

Yeah, so that is where I'm getting good meats.

Well, I'm thrilled about this.

I'm absolutely over the moon.

I'm going to have to have some sort of beef party forks for everyone.

A beef party.

Invite women though, or do you want to?

Are we just making it for you?

You'll be Yeah, you'll be behind the scenes.

You will not be seen.

Yeah, you will leave once the meat is ready.

The lights go out.

Everyone suddenly there's a plate of food in front of them.

The women have vanished.

I love this.

This sounds good for us ultimately, it's good for you for me too.

I'm giving here, I'm giving, and I'm giving and I'm giving, and all that you two do is take.

It's kind of gross.

Ultimately, well, I'm gonna put this here.

I think we should play a game.

Okay, O, great, We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse.

Do you too have anything to promote or recommend?

It is the holidays.

I'm willing to give you a chance to do something for yourselves.

I will be in San Francisco doing San Francisco Sketch Fest at the end of January.

So if you're in San Francisco, come come see a stand up show.

Oh that's great.

It's the end of January and end of January January thirty, first listener.

If you don't do that, then what are you doing in a Bay Area?

Come on, get on the bart, Get on the bart, go come to punch on the trolley.

Get on the trolley.

I love this.

Do an entirely track based way to get there.

Don't take away mo get to me.

Okay, Maria, do you have anything?

Well, I feel like it's the things that I have to promote are not coming out recently, so so I just really know.

You're You're on Instagram, You're in all sorts of good uh, film and TV.

Yeah, what he types, Maria Thay are into Google to.

Yes, go on a journey.

There's some old stuff, there's going to be some new stuff.

I think that may be on an episode.

Well, I don't know, you know what.

I like that Now someone's going to watch every single episode of television on.

An episode of television very soon that you know.

Oh, I can't wait a movie coming out at some point.

Okay, I wrote on a television show that's coming out in months.

I guess, I don't know.

Anyway, the people that.

You're working for are not happy with you right now.

They were already not happy with it.

Right now, they're busily trying to edit you out of the.

Right right you know whatever feeling.

I tried to give you a nice.

Little you did you did?

You did a really lovely you did something very nice, You did something very nice.

You were missus clause type you are?

You are missus clause and uh, but we should play the game.

I'm going to name three things.

You'll tell me if there are a gift or a curse, and why then don't tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers.

You two are competing against each other.

Oh yeah, this could destroy Yes, I told you that I would run right into the as soon as I can, So that's competitive.

I am all right, Well, I'll be very careful.

This first one is from a listener named Noah, and these are a holiday theme.

Doesn't that fun for a holiday episode?

Noah has suggested gift or a curse cinnamon scented pine cone.

Pine I answer, okay, who wants to go?

I'll go?

Curse was just pointed at me.

It's high, like blacked out?

Did I even say my answer?

Even four hours?

A curse has already smelled good enough.

They don't need anything that same.

Okay, both of you are cursed.

Yeah, I would say curse as well, because I'm just like, why ad I if I get the pine cone?

I'm getting the pine cone for the pine cone smell.

Right right?

I like pine better than me?

Too interesting?

I do too wrong?

Woh god?

Why I stepped on a pine cone with a bare foot before?

Yes, this disgusting cinnamon scent is a great way to alert you that you're coming up on a pine cone that's rolling around on the ground that fell off of the display in your robe your early morning.

If it were just pine, you would probably confuse it with the Christmas tree and think nothing's wrong.

You smell that disgusting cinnamon, you know something's wrong.

You're able to go and pick it up off the floor.

What about pine?

That smell like pine?

But they they scream all the time, or like they make a sound interesting?

Yeah, pine cone?

Oh?

I like that.

Okay, so that's okay.

I'd be what is it saying?

Don't know?

Can you haven't say whatever you want?

Screams kill me?

Well, you both got that wrong, had to hear it.

I disagree.

Well, of course you disagree.

You got it wrong, and you're a sore loser.

It is a holiday, it's trying to be in a better mood.

Okay.

This next one is from a listener named Casey.

Gift or a curse White Elephant Gift exchanges.

I can go first this time.

I'm gonna say gift.

Why because I like the element of surprise, And I know people like what is white elephant?

The one where you just put it in the middle and then everyone takes it one at a time and then you can steal someone else's gifts.

Yeah, I like that.

I like the addition of sort of anger and drama into a sort of gift giving element like I like, I like the way that like like.

I did it once with my family and I ended up with the gift that I brought, which is which is wit some time.

But I loved it.

I loved every second of it.

What was the gift?

It was a cocktail.

It was honestly not a great gift.

I understand why it was left on the table.

It was a cocktail recipe book interesting, honestly helpful, but no one and recipes I am.

I love them interesting.

I love recipe books.

Right, so gift, gift and gift because well, because it's a gift, it's literally a gift, and I'm a literalist.

Wrong curse.

I hate these things.

I hate.

I think about it last minute.

I find something in the closet that's neither useful or funny, it's just junk.

I take it to the party.

I see something I actually want.

The one person that brought something nice, probably a gift card, twenty five dollars gift card.

I want it so bad I become very competitive to get it.

I don't get it.

I drive home from every white Elephant exchange in tears.

Oh, horrible.

Wow, the bad.

Yeah, there was one.

There was one at my office when I worked in advertising, and there was the boss had put an iPod.

That's that is very that is very cruel.

Yes, if everyone is doing fifty and under, you can't just drop in an iPod.

And god, I can still picture the faces of my coworkers getting the iPod stolen and being handed like socks.

It's tough.

That would ruin the holiday.

They would ruin the holidays.

Oh, I hope it went to a good home.

Or was it one of your least favorite coworking.

I think it was one of my least favorite.

I think it was the woman who had two rats as pets.

Oh god, well, she needed something, she needed something, something to take home.

And ratip pets are good.

I don't want the rat I don't want the rat community to come after me.

Had it happened before, after before, I've had it happened before.

And rats are really smart.

Let's say some good things about rats.

So really smart.

They're there.

They are rodents.

The rodents.

Yes, they're not cockroaches, and they're not cockroaches.

They from certain angles are cute.

Yeah, I can see why someone would love a rat.

I can also for myself to see why it would be the most horrifying creature.

The tail is a horrible tr move.

It's the hit.

It's the tail for me as well.

But it's the tail for you.

That's good.

If it's the tail for you, then it is weird.

I can understand the rest of the.

Rat in the rat community.

We love rat owners.

I just have a deep trauma with rats, and I have a hard time.

Wait, what is it from?

I had a rat as a first grader and it escaped and went to live in the garage as a rabbit animal and had a tragic end, and then the betrayal the idea of rabies and then becoming disease carriers.

Just stayed with me for the rest of my life and ultimately as my mom's fault splinter.

Because I wanted a Ninja turtle.

My mom thought I would get sell Manila from a turtle, so she thought, let's get a rat.

I've talked to with her about this and I've made sure she was a bad parenting movie.

Okay, so you both have gotten zero?

All right?

This final one is from Kathleen Gift or a Curse Vegan Eggnog.

I guess, uh, I don't know this one is this one?

I could go either way.

I guess I don't like egnog.

I think eggnog is a curse, personal curse.

I wouldn't say it's a curse for everyone.

It's a personal curse.

And I'm gonna say it's a you know, gift.

I don't know, it's just a gift.

It's a gift to have a choice.

Of Okay, I'm gonna say, curse the pure.

Some things don't need a vegan version.

Some things don't need a vegan version.

And I want my I want eggs in my eggnog.

That is spoken like a true meeting.

I know.

I'm sorry.

No, I love that you can have a choice.

But for this, I'm going to say, curse.

It's a gift.

It's a gift.

It's a gift.

This is the only way I'll drink my eggnog.

And I'm a dairy heavy person, but I don't like the I don't even know if it actually has eggs.

It does it, but that's the word there, and then it's so thick and the dairiness of it it all is horrifying.

But for whatever reason, when we say almond milk or oat milk with those flavors, I think it's a delightful beverage.

I think that's the only way I'll drink an eggnog is if it's not dairy based.

And I drink milk every single day, that's something wrong with.

Me, as I drink milk every way.

But I also drink milk every day.

But when you when you say it out loud, it does sound freaking in cereal or like, yeah.

Mi, you've been trying.

Look, someone was trying to shame us out of drinking milk.

And I'm standing up and I'm saying, look, I eat a cookie.

I need milk me too.

I'm sorry.

So, okay, I understand cereal.

Every day, sometimes I have like a I don't know, like this morning, I had an RX bar, okay, and a glass of milk right water.

Can you imagine that feels like stranded?

Yeah.

It hasn't drank milk since I was a kid.

Wow.

I mean unless it's like I have a chocolate chip cookie and somebody it's just like the perfect thing that happen.

Okay, So if you had a chocolate chip cookie every day, you would drink milk every day.

Do you have a chocolate chip cookie?

Almost?

I have some type of cookie every single day, so I.

So much.

That makes me happy.

I Oh, I do you make these?

This is something I I will make a batch of dough and then I freeze, you know, because if I had a bunch of cookies, I would eat all of them at the same time.

So the listeners like, shut up, Richard, we know.

But I will make the dough, turn it into balls, freeze it, and then bake myself one cookie every night.

My boyfriend Jim used to have one cookie as well.

He doesn't know how good he has it.

He's now eating those ice cream sandwiches from Trader Joe's every night, which I recently discovered.

The cookies and cream ones are pretty good.

They're pretty good.

The other one I don't.

I could, the chocolate chip cookie one doesn't work.

Oh, the mini cones I've heard are good.

I haven't hand really good.

But I every night a cookie unless I run out, and then I'll always have a backup of like frozen something from the store just in case I need a treat every night.

No, I love this and I feel like it if fits perfect.

Something about it, yeah, something about it.

It's just perfect.

Yes.

Do you to not finish the day with a treat?

I do?

Okay, what's your truth?

Sometimes a little chocolate, a little dark chocolate, classy, sophisticated.

Yeah, okay, take it, okay, dark, a dark chocolate, or a little Trader Joe's mini cone.

Okay, I do love that.

I need a treat at the end of the day.

It's a reward.

It is a reward, something you can always count on.

What are you?

I don't know though.

Yeah, it's a little treat.

Yeah, it doesn't have to be an extravagant thing.

It could be a life saver.

Yeah, that would be sad.

That would be sad.

Yeah, but the last thing you have before bed, you have a single life saver.

No, that's a tough thing to think about.

It'd be hard for me to have the self control.

I would have to do what you do.

Yes, this is something I had to learn because there was no self control whatsoever.

But I'm having my milk, I'm having my cookie.

Everyone's going crazy about protein these days.

I get a little protein.

At the milky.

Look, I'm with the dairy council.

Sue me, you guys.

Milk is like ten grams of protein.

This now feels like sponsored content, and unfortunately it's not like something we even get something free from.

And they're not going to send us a gallon.

That's not something I want on my porch.

Maybe a subscription to a milkman.

Imagine I having a milkman deliver a bottle of milk every moment, old fashion with that.

That's very meat for man, that is very meat.

And oh yeah, I'm sure that exists.

Yeah, I'm sure it does too.

Like Oberweiss, I feel like probably does it interesting?

Sorry, dropped a milk name, Oberwiss, Oberwise.

That sounds fancy.

Yeah, you can buy it is out of a glass bottle.

Nothing better, nothing better.

Well, unfortunately, and we've come together in a lot of things in the last few moments where you did lose the game.

I did lose Maria one.

She got one out of three, which is bad.

So you lost to a looser.

Merry Christmas, Okay, we uh, we should answer at least one listener question.

The unfortunate thing about this podcast is people write into I said no gives at Gmail dot coffee Calm, and they often have Christmas questions.

But they often come in after we've recorded for the holidays, so then they don't get their answers, so we should answer at least one Christmas question.

Let's see here bu bu buh.

Hm.

And then I open it and I'm immediately like, what, who cares?

Let's see here?

Bup up up?

I thought I had the holiday ones.

Oh, here we go, let's see.

Okay, hello Bridger and guest.

So unfortunately doesn't.

It's just one of you.

You should probably both feel free to speak, and says as the holidays what sorry, excuse me, we were trying to decide who was guest.

Okay, I'll throw a knife between the two of you and let you figure it out.

As the holidays grow nearer, I realize we are in a bind.

My family buys alcohol as the default gift for everyone.

To me, this is not an issue at all and is actually a welcome gift.

However, my husband is newly in recovery.

He does not want to draw attention to this fact, but also does not want to get a bottle each for my parents, brother, and sister to tempt him.

How do we mention this to my family that we would greatly appreciate if they stray from their tradition of easy gifts of whiskey and get a non alcoholic gift.

Thank you so much.

That's from Emily.

So this is a this is an actual question, which is surprised Emily.

I think you just tell them, but I don't know.

The family.

Yeah, family, troubled group of people.

They're all drunk all the time.

Congratulations to your husband.

Yeah, marrying into this horrible group of people.

Yes, they're all like it's set off by the smallest things change and yeah, they're horrible with change.

They just want whiskey and to keep living the lives that are already living.

So how do we get them?

I think I know.

Well, first I would be like Emily, go to therapy, Go to therapy, learn about how to set the boundaries.

No, no, no, no, you're right, you're right.

It's her fault.

Everything here is Emily's fault.

She brought this husband in who she's tiptoeing around his feelings, she's tip tiptoeing around her drunk family's feelings, and she's writing into podcasts.

What what are we supposed to do with this person?

Okay, I have got so I have I do like to drink, but also when I I do like also a lot of also do.

I'm going to keep saying.

Also, that's your last also, and then you'll be asking.

Non alcoholic drinks.

Okay, I actually do really like there's a whole new industry and I feel like, Emily, you should just pick the non alcoholic drinks that you think your husband will like and send them to you, like make the gift shopping easy.

Already have it picked out, because if you send, if you tell drinkers or this family of gift givers that like, go buy now an alcoholic, I could I could hear them being like where would I get that?

Right?

You know, like right, they're already so mad.

They're already so mad, mad and lazy.

They're mad and lazy.

They don't want to do that research.

Where am I going to get that non alcoholic?

Is it in the same aisle?

You know?

Like you can just hear them like, oh, look at him.

I guess he doesn't he doesn't want jim p so true.

Souls like I feel like I feel like I wonder if like she said that, she said that she didn't want to draw attention to Is that right?

It?

Why?

Let's see, he doesn't want to draw attention to the fact.

But then you have to have to Well again, it's communication, which this family is fails at you every year.

But I think maybe, well, unfortunately, it's an unsolvable problem.

There's no way this can be solved outside of Emily maybe buying a box of like a right and wrapping it up and avoiding the family this year Sprite twelve cans of Sprite, Sprite zero, Sprite Cranberry Sprite Ginger regular regular.

If that's I think that's dangerous.

Well, I think that Unfortunately, we've determined Emily has an unsolvable issue.

Shame to hear that.

But not everyone can have a good holiday, that's the thing.

Yeah, we'd never promised to solve No, no, no, we're just here to We kind of just listen.

Right, And there's so many of us.

If everyone had a good holiday, I don't know if the energy would be too much.

No, it would be too much.

At least one person should have a horrible family and a husband.

That's mad at them, beautifully said.

We answered that perfectly.

And now I've got my forks, I've got my meat recipes.

I've just spent two hours of my two best friends.

I did bring you.

Each of this is kind of rare.

I thought about each of your personalities.

You'll know as soon as you open these, and okay, this is for you.

They're beautifully wrap Trader Joe's bags and.

The holiday themed bags, Holiday themed bags.

This is very nice.

Feel free to open them here on the podcast.

Okay, would here God of War?

You got a copy of God of War three for the PlayStation three.

I knew you would love this.

I saw that.

I saw them at the store.

I was at the store sweating, panicking.

I had looked at so many things.

I thought, that looks kind of like to you and that, and then I saw this.

I thought, she needs got four.

Yes, because I've done this make up look recently.

Yes, you had a big red stripe across the red stripe across my face.

In the end, there will only be chaos.

That's kind of that actually makes sense for you.

That makes sense for you, and so play it in good spirit.

That's something you can gather the family or the TV around the family, or the family around the TV and fire it up and just get into God of War three.

Wow.

Thank you so much.

Of course, of course, and Maria, let's see what you've got Oh, the receipt is still in it that Oh, there's still a receipt.

That's probably a Trader Joe's receipt.

The Wire season I thought, why not?

Everyone loves the Wire.

Physical media is on its way back.

It is on its way back.

Classic TV show.

Season one, season one.

There are I don't remember what happens in this season.

There's a lot of drama, yes, perfect of drugs.

Yeah, this is of course, this is a Christmas Day binge.

Yeah, it's and The Wire season one.

That's it's not for this.

This is from Trader Joe's and I'm going to it's a granola.

This is now part of my guest should be framed.

You got it?

Says a granola protein peanut bee.

Oh, I love that.

Have you had a protein pumpkin?

Whole org pumpkin?

Oh that was for our dog's diarrhea.

That's you know, you're buying pumpkin your when your dog has this is a holiday trick when your dog, when Bonnie has You have a Dobby and Bonnie as well.

We just learned this.

We both have a Bonnie.

Oh that's really special.

But when your own personal Bonnie has diarrhea and you give them a couple of scoops of pumpkin for a few days and then it clears it enough.

Bonnie recently had the worst diarrhea I've ever seen.

We had lunch recently, and you opened our lunch that way.

Yes, I said, before you take a bite, Well, you take a bite.

Let me tell you something.

I've got pictures.

But you both have these.

Gorgeous gifts, and you can't thank me enough, obviously, so and I can't thank you enough, obviously.

Yes, I'm excited for you, you both to go on those journeys, and I am so through the and you also, let's not forget I gave you both forks.

Yes, yes, yes, thank you.

I have forks, I have meets for men.

I've had such a lovely time with you too here lovely happy holidays, happy uh.

Older Driver's Awareness Week that's at the beginning of December.

That will be okay.

You have a year to prepare for older drivers safety.

We've passed.

I didn't, I didn't do anything.

It's been busy this year.

It's been a hectic year.

Right, any of the older drivers, I know, I know they're probably all dead now.

Oh I hate to hear it, but find some more older drivers and make sure they're safe.

Yeah, okay of December six, is it?

If that's what it is.

Yes, it's really a thing Older Drivers Safety Awareness Week.

Yes, it's of course it's a real thing.

What are you talking about?

You probably you must not have gone to church growing up.

I definitely, well if I don't know what church you are going to, but you know, not Christian.

But thank you both for being here.

I think we should have some more snow.

Listener, I'm yelling over the snow.

The podcast is over.

Happy holidays, God bless bless us, Merry gentlemen.

What is it?

God bless us everyone.

He's just he's manipulative.

He could walk.

I'm sorry.

They were manipulating that wonderful Scrooge, very rich.

Yeah, all Scrooge wanted to do was be left alone in some of his families.

They can feel bad about trying to run a small business.

Disgusting.

All right, I love all of you.

Goodbye, I said.

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At I said, no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

And don't you want to see the gifts?

Lie?

Why did you hear?

Gonta made myself perfectly clear, But you're a guest to me.

You gotta come to me empty, And.

I said, no guests, you're O presences presence and I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me