Episode Transcript
How you guys doing.
Man, I'm upset.
Speaker 2I imagine you are upset.
I imagine you are about your mad son.
Speaker 3Tell them about your mad We can't do this every week we give away football games.
We'll give it away good football games, and that hers.
It bothers me.
It messes up my whole day.
But it's it's you know what.
There are things that we believe we can correct.
I believe we can correct.
Speaker 4Yes, everything that we've seen of the past three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 3Not two weeks long week, three weeks that are correctable.
Now as I say that, let me preposent with this.
Speaker 4If these things are not corrected, then they're only going to get worse because you still have.
Speaker 1The Eagles coming up here.
Speaker 4Not I don't want to jump ahead, but we have to know that the Eagles have a defense.
Speaker 3I know I should I should know that because I'm like the player of the game or something.
Speaker 2You'll be up there at midfield or.
Speaker 1Truly, there's something I don't know.
I just know we need to win the game.
Speaker 2Outfit's gonna look.
Speaker 3Uh you might have.
Speaker 1Well, We're gonna take.
Speaker 2No judgment from me.
Man, Listen, you know uh.
Speaker 1Do it well?
Speaker 4Now?
Speaker 5We were talking abound right before he came on, and we were having the discussion sort of the debate that's been going on about Sean Payton and bow Knicks and the issues with the offense.
Where do you lean on who needs to clean up their part of it more?
Some fans tend to be on Bo Nicks, some tip fans tend to be on John Payton.
Speaker 2What do you think?
Speaker 3You know what I and I said this, and I said this to you guys, and I'll say it to everybody.
I believe there's not a throw that bow Knicks can't make because most people have judged quarterback based office pass abilities.
I don't think there's plays that we run that he can't, you know, get us in the right place if he had to check, and those types of things.
Very smart guy, heady guy, hard nos.
I mean that's the way.
Honestly, he's more of a rugged quarterback.
I really love he Honestly, I love it because Jake Jake Plumber played that way.
Jake Plumber is as little as Jake went, really little, but Jake was tough and Jake would fight, and that's what Bo is.
And so I think it's definitely gonna come down to more play call versus always trying to scheme things.
Speaker 1I was at the bank just if your misigo, and.
Speaker 3This guy recognized me when we started talking, and it was one thing that I told him.
I was like, one thing is something about being accountable, and everybody's got to be accountable individually, and then you bring it together.
Speaker 1As a team.
Speaker 3And we're making a lot of undisciplined mistakes, not just on offense, on defense and special teams that are costing us football games AFC football games that are gonna hurt us down the line if we don't fix some starting this week.
I know this NFC game, but don't AFC game another NC game.
We have to win those games if you want to have a chance in the postseason.
Speaker 4Well here's why I want to talk to you about being from a wire receiver tracking the ball on deep balls.
Speaker 1Last week we saw give up my secret.
Well, yeah you have to, I'll give it up.
Speaker 4So Troy Franklin did a great job of tracking over his shoulder one or bow Knick's throws.
But there were two long throws that could have kind of really blown this game wide open.
Speaker 1Absolutely one of the mems and one to call the son.
Speaker 4I know what the criticism is from a quarterback standpoint, and Brian and I discussed it from a wide receiver standpoint.
What would you have coached those two receivers to do and those two situations.
Speaker 3I saw a guy post that and I said, there's something I know about those plays that if they would did these things, the chances of them being overthrown, they still will have taglong.
But if he can touch your fingertips, you can catch it.
But one thing I noticed that they did.
They had two steps and their arms were already out.
You're running with your arms out.
You have to run.
Speaker 1Coach Hammerdinger, God rest his soul.
Dingn taught me this.
Speaker 3Listen, here's the reason why I know this so and it hurts me when I see you guys miss a long pass.
I was about to get cut from the buckles because they said.
The knock on me was I wasn't fast enough to catch the deep ball.
So he took me out and we did this drill.
And the drill that we did was I would run and keep pumping my arms.
You can't turn your shoulder.
If you notice guys are opening their shoulder, you don't run a front of your.
Speaker 1Desks with the shoulders open.
Speaker 3You got to keep your shoulders square and you don't let your arms shoot out until the very last second.
And if it's sixty inches from.
Speaker 1The ground, that's when it goes out.
Speaker 3They had their hands up high, and they were trying to run with their arms out and not saying that it is their fault that those passes should have been on them because it was so wide open.
You underthrow that ball when they're that wide open.
So a lot of that, to me, is on the quarterback.
But for those receivers, any receiver.
You want to know the secret that kept me in the league, it was that I wasn't as fast as some of these guys.
But you notice how hardly ever got overthrown because I knew this little technique that I use every single time I'm running a route.
I never turned my shoulders.
I would just turn my head and the ball is eventually gonna come into focus, but my arms are still pumping.
I'm still running this.
My forty old dance down Hell was about four five, So it's not the compared to these guys right now, right, But I never got overthrown.
Speaker 1How's that?
Speaker 3It's technique?
And this is the technique that these guys need to practice because you don't just do it automatic.
Speaker 5Is there something with the timing when it comes to why these are not quite being completed?
Because there was other timing issues too, Like Lucas Croll ran a hitch and he was trying to I mean, Boticks thought he was gonna keep going on his route.
It was a third down and he ended up sort of stopping his route.
It seems like the timing is not quite there with the receivers.
Speaker 3Yeah, and and and that's that's a practice things.
Speaker 1As a receiver, you got.
Speaker 3To understand situations and sometimes I think we be missing out on some situations.
What you gotta for me?
I've always looked at it like this, and I believe every player should do this.
The quarterback has got enough to worry about.
One thing he shouldn't worry about is you.
He should know where you're gonna be because you know him.
Sometimes these guys, and I see this a lot in the NFL.
A lot of guys get caught up in their ex'es and o's and mayor whether they're going to get a check mark or X that they got it right or wrong.
Versus understanding football.
You got to understand down the distance.
You got to understand how to sit in the hole versus sliding.
Speaker 1Do you slide?
Do you run out?
He said, man is its own.
Speaker 3You have to know before the quarterback knows, so that he knows, well you're you're a safe throat for him every single time he comes to you.
Speaker 1Is safe.
Well, how do you make that actually work?
Speaker 4Because hearing you explain it, it sounds really elementary.
Speaker 3It's realistic.
So you know about practice.
You got to do that in practice.
You do that in film study.
We did it in film in practice every single day of my career, especially when I.
Speaker 1Had called Carl Dreil and Dinger when I had more Forte.
Speaker 3He's just you just cussed me out when other guys made me stay there and close.
Speaker 2My guy.
Speaker 1He used to cuss me out with Anthony Miller was messed up.
He cussed me out.
Speaker 3But the other coaches I've had in the league and Dingering, all those guys, they taught me how to be a technician.
And I know these guys in town, I know these guys are fast, but somebody other than Carling's got to catch footballs.
It's like well, Colin didn't have catches last week, so we're gonna get him a lot of catches this week.
But then all the other guys go away.
That's not gonna win you football games.
There's no way Mim should have one catching four yards.
There's no way Franklin should have two catches for eight yards.
These guys got to get the ball down the field.
And I believe this is it might be a stat and I might be wrong for this.
I think we throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage two our receivers more than anybody in the league.
Speaker 1And to me, that's that's saying you don't trust your.
Speaker 3Running game or your offense line is not good enough to hold up for a three to five step drop to get the ball down the field.
Speaker 5That doesn't make sense to me, though, what you mean because I feel like the offensive line is good or or is that so?
Speaker 3That's but if you notice some of the pressures that he's having on some of these passes, even on some of those overthrown passes, he's got people.
Speaker 2In his face.
Okay, so you think this is an offensive line issue.
Speaker 1You know what, you gotta sit down.
Speaker 3You can't keep kicking back you gotta sit down to give him just a split second.
Speaker 1And because that kid can make those throws.
Man, he can make.
Speaker 3Those throws, some of those long ones, they were so wide open.
Speaker 1He just got to take some off of those.
He gotta know that.
Speaker 3If they have to stop and castes and get tackled, it ain't a bomb for a test down.
Speaker 1So be it.
Speaker 5Let me ask you this because we heard from Sean Payton yesterday and he was asked about those overthrows and his response was really interesting to me because he said, well, it's better to be overthrown than to be underthrown and potentially put in your position of the dB to make a play on it.
Speaker 3Okay, and with the case on those who plays, okay, on those who plays there was no TV with then ten all to those guys.
Speaker 2That's right.
So but think about that.
Speaker 4But I don't.
Speaker 3Here's the thing he shouldn't think about it.
You know why because as his receiver, I got your back.
If you throw the ball short calling Sortan going to get it.
Maam's going to get it.
Franklin going to get That's the mentality they gotta have.
So bol if you put this, if you trust me, when you let this football go toward me.
Speaker 1I got you.
Speaker 3If it's short, I'm getting it or I'm getting p I.
But I don't just I don't get credit for p i's I don't get stats to that.
I need to catch this football and if I have to come back.
You see guys come back to the ball, guy runs into them.
You get the penalty because what is the dB doing.
He's in a panic mode, his head is run down.
Speaker 1He's waiting on you to.
Speaker 3Raise your hands and he gonna try to script the ball and pol his hands up when you put your hands up.
That's why you shoot your hands late.
Now he can't do that.
But on those particular plays that that's not a valid argument because those guys will open by at least ten yards each.
Speaker 2But but there's something to be said.
Speaker 5I think for Sean Payton to continue to promote that Bonux doesn't make mistakes, like this is the guy that doesn't take sacks.
Speaker 2Didn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 5It's why we drafted you in the first round because we wanted a guy in here that was the opposite in so many ways of what we had with Russell Wilson.
So you're here to run my offense and to not screw things up, and so then you wonder how much of that enters into the way he plays.
Speaker 2That's what I'm talking about, And you know.
Speaker 3What, and that's the conversation that they're having, and Boe is the only one who could probably answer that and how coach is relating some things to him.
Trust me, everything, as they say, gets lost in translation.
A lot of times you're saying one thing, but the other person interprets it a different way, and that translates to the field as well.
So there's got to be some clarity.
I've said this every year I've been on this show.
You got to have clarity when it comes to sports, or especially high level sports like this.
You got to have clarity that when this guy walks out that huddle, he's got to know exactly what his dues and dunts are so he physically has the talent, the mindset and the physical ability to do it.
And I know bo has that.
And is it one of the coach pulls back on the ring, Let the rings go, let him go out there and play.
And I think teams are saying, I see this on some of the commentary when I'm listening, you know Bo's gonna drop back if this guy ain't over in front here, gonna take off, run in and blah blah blah.
You see people saying that.
But if you notice, there's reasons he's moving.
He's not moving because he needs because when it's time in the pocket is clean.
He sits there like a tree.
He's standing there looking like Tom Brady.
He's just standing there.
Tom ain't going nowhere.
If both was standing in that pocket, man and deliver the throw.
But I just believe up front, we gotta show that up a little bit.
Those edges are getting a little tighter, in my opinion, and so you see him sneaking up under the tackles, sliding outside the guards.
The guards are kind of firmed.
The Senate got knocked back a little bit this week, and those are some ones that were in his face.
That fleet flicker was a crazy play to me on third and s very long like that.
Yeah, that was a crazy play that would have worked.
Should have worked.
Speaker 1The pitchback wouldn't all that great, but hey, it worked right, It should have worked.
Speaker 4The thing is what I'm saying is that there's some really subtle miscues with Bowl's footwork all those.
Speaker 1Things can be cleaned up.
Speaker 4But what the Chargers were able to do because they piggyback off of what the Titans did in week one where the Colts did in week two, because when you look what the Charges did, they were able to get pressure, which is with four guys, you got five guys black and four and for me you.
Speaker 1Got similar what you think.
Speaker 4I think maybe sometimes the reason why boas getting what people online are saying happy feet is because the pockety pocket is being muddy.
Speaker 1And when you say he's taken off, he's taken off to extend to drop.
Speaker 4If he doesn't take off, he's getting sets and that's going to be a negative play.
Speaker 5But he's also seemingly working into contact on that play.
Speaker 2The third nineteen I think that was.
Speaker 5The one in the contact.
Speaker 3Can't there thinking about forty five yards just standing flat with it.
But couse, the pitch is not great.
He gets the pitch, the guy's open, he's just trying to get it out.
You see how high it was.
He's trying to give the guy a time to run under it, but somebody's in his face.
Speaker 1So the owner is not going to follow through.
Speaker 3Properly because he had to step up to.
Speaker 1Let the ball go.
Speaker 4But to Ryan's point, and we talked about it and I got a video of it, there was a there was a point where the pocket was starting to collapse and the two tackles were doing a great job of Washington, so it was somewhat of a clean pocket and Bow steps up and he throws it at that particular moment, He's got either Franklin or Mams.
Speaker 1But he took a step too far.
Speaker 4And this is what Ryan and I were talking about.
You're right on the back of your center.
You can't really step into that throw that makes it and that took a little off the trajectory.
I mean, the velocity was there, but the trajectory was off because he overthrew Mams.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3No, like I say, a lot of those little things, like you said, those things gotta get.
Speaker 1It's based off clarity your lineman.
They kind of.
Speaker 3Have an idea where you are, but with both sometimes you don't know where he is.
Speaker 1So that's the problem that.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying, Because I'm a block to protect my guys and they fight.
Speaker 1Don't trust me, they fight.
Speaker 3I mean, we haven't had really any issues up front with the with the with the effort and the heart of those guys up front, and I think sometimes it's just it's almost like you watch the line copy.
They watched the line copy.
Okay, where's where's the kid gonna be, coach?
I need to know where he's gonna be so I can make sure I give him that spot.
Speaker 4But that's the that's the pro and the con that you deal with when you have a mobile quarterback.
If you had just one of a staturesque quarterback Breeze, Brady or Manny, they're gonna stay right there.
As an offensive lineman, you know where the guy is.
But I mean, how many times, if we were to really chart it this season and last season, how many times bol have saved the offensive line by scrambling, by moving into pocket And it may not even be running down the field, but he avoided a sack.
Right, So you you living down that hill because.
Speaker 1That's who he is.
Yeah.
Speaker 3I like the fact that we upfront show up as best we can.
If he moves, he moves because the movement is on him.
The movement is based on what he feels not sometimes and plus you'll see people start getting fingers on him and he'll dug about of that stuff and he'll break some tackles and he's running for his life.
Man, but he's know what he's still doing.
He's still looking downfield, trying to figure out a where to get the ball out of Okay, so how about this, how about I think we need a short passing game.
That's what I think.
That way, the ball is already gone.
It's a three step drop, three to five step drop.
You're in the gun.
The ball is gone.
Five Between that five and twelve yard routes, we don't run any of those.
Speaker 2But now behind the line.
Speaker 3Huh, I'm talking about five to twelve yards across the glass scrimmage.
Speaker 2Yeah.
There really, there is really no middle game.
Speaker 3I mean, I don't see us running slant rouse.
I don't see us runing underrouts under rouse, a five yard inn route.
I don't see us running regular en routes, which is ten to twelve yard.
I don't see us running pivots.
Speaker 1You gotta spread it out through to do that exactly.
I don't aunt.
That's a whole nother argument with.
Speaker 3Me as far as when you here's here's here's what I saw.
And you'll know this because his defense Dervin James, to me, was the best football.
Speaker 1Player on the field.
Like that dude or nothing.
That dude is like ridiculous.
Speaker 3Just watching him play and just seeing what he's done over his career.
Dervin Jay, I'm making sure Dervil James tell me where he's gonna be.
Dervin James ain't getting the sack unless he come from deep.
But when we're in the tight splits, you let Dervin Jay get to come in the box and he is still cover from the box, you spread them out.
So Dervin James gotta gotta get out.
You gotta get out in the box or he gonna tell us you coming.
I got one on one downfield, I got my guys, I got.
Speaker 1The three I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3Is anybody else any I mean, I don't even know if we got tight ends.
We only hear on tight ends when they made We know, we only hear on tight ends when they make a mistake.
But but I mean, I know those guys can catch.
I've seen those guys make plays when they had tight end weekend last last year.
They followed out right, so they still there.
So tell me, are you a fan of having more quick.
Speaker 4Passes spreading him out, so boken identit asolutely.
What if the friend is coming.
Absolutely a couple of boot legs in there as well.
Speaker 3You can't run bot leg when you had the gun all the time.
You gonna run bootleg and a gun.
And I tossed bootleg in because I am.
Speaker 1Run the ball wide.
I'm trying to project that because being under so many to allow bow more opportunities.
Speaker 4Because that means now, as a defense, when I see your quarterback in the shotgun, we're thinking that's more like seventy percent past three three percent run And if you're going to keep throwing those little swing routes, you help us out because we just have to run and chase.
Speaker 3Yes, And that's what's from a difference to say we're doing it out of a tight split every time.
Speaker 1It's not.
It's just thing.
It's bad.
Speaker 3And I and I and I mean this with no disrespect.
If I can tell when we're gonna do it, I don't what's tape if the dollars if they if I can tell, sitting on the couch eating some.
Speaker 1Chimps up, sitting on the couch, Ryan.
Speaker 3Yeah, I threw my couch away the other day.
I just got a chair in there right now.
I'm ready, coy.
No, that's the difference.
Who said we come pick up the couch.
Speaker 1No, it was bad.
I wouldn't those times couch it was for a long time.
It was bad.
Speaker 5Yeah, But the way you were talking about the couches, fans that shouldn't have a reason to be upset because they sit on the couch.
Speaker 2This is differently when a famous talk.
Speaker 1But you know what, we all this.
Speaker 3I'm vouncing for the fans because we care.
It's hard losing those.
Speaker 1Type games like that.
Speaker 3Man, it's hard losing those those games by field.
Speaker 1Going on Ryan two.
Speaker 3Weeks in a row in the AFC, when we've had the ball and we well, we can wait and talk about that.
We've had the ball in the fourth Our fourth quarter game has been not even existent.
Speaker 4Three every the Broncos have scored three points over three games in the fourth quarter.
That's not finishing.
I don't care how you slice it.
You look at all the analytics you want to.
The proof is in the putting.
Speaker 5They also haven't trailed at any point in the fourth quarter except at the end of the game until they lost.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's and his The thing that means you you're in the fourth quarter.
With the league, you've had the ball three sometimes four times in one quarter.
You hardly ever get the ball that manytimes, unless you're getting turnovers on defense or they're scoring touchdowns and you get the ball back.
It's the only way you get the ball back, right, And you mean to tell me we don't have the offensive capability to put teams away.
That's that's what I lean on that.
I know everybody loves our defense.
I love passing ten's just like everybody else.
But I want pass the ten on the bench.
I don't want pass the ten in the game.
I don't want to read about Riley Moss.
And if you find out none of them, I don't want to hear nothing about them.
Speaker 1I want them on the sideline chair.
Speaker 3Because we got to what we call four minute offense, that we're gonna run this clock out, We're gonna score and.
Speaker 1Ain't nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 3Yes, some mentality, and I think, and I said this last year, I'm gonna say it right now.
Speaker 1I still don't.
Speaker 3Believe we have an identity of This is what I was telling the guy in the bank.
Speaker 1I said one he said, man, your team y'all had this this now.
Speaker 3I said, you know we had I said, sir, we had two plays, two running plays, and we had two pass plays that we would run if we didn't care.
If everybody in the stadium new they couldn't stop them.
See, we don't have that on this team yet, Like two run plays, Well, we're.
Speaker 1Gonna line up, not no quarterback sneak, none of that mess, all this touch push nothing.
Speaker 3No, we ran fifteen fourteen, which is left right throughund datas or any back because you see how many backs we had, eighteen nineteen handoff those two plays that are run plays.
Speaker 1Hello, high water, a flood, the.
Speaker 3Rapture, whatever's supposed to happen today, all of that, this play, whatever you name to take, all this stuff that was in the Bible, We was gonna run those plays and nobody can stop them.
Three years, three years we ran those plays and no one's we got stocked on those plays one time in three years.
And we had two pass pays that we could run whatever we felt like it.
Because any man, myself and Shannon was always in the game.
Speaker 1If House came in, there was just another weapon.
Speaker 5He also had multiple Hall of Favors and.
Speaker 1Show what it is is a mentality.
Speaker 2Yes, sure, but also come on.
Speaker 3Man, they had to come home famous without a mentality.
Yes, the mentality this would be great twenty.
Speaker 1Four to seven.
Speaker 4Take a small amount of plays and you focus and you fine tune those plays.
Speaker 1He's telling you ran him over and over and over and over again.
Because this thing.
I don't care what defense you're in.
Speaker 3I don't care if the coach, if he coached called it out loud and everybody knew.
He holed up a sign showing you where we were running.
You couldn't stop it because our mentality was I'm.
Speaker 1Gonna kick your tail.
It ain't not even go about it.
Speaker 2Yeah, were you yelling at the big guy in the bank like this?
Speaker 1I was shouting out he was fired up.
I was fired up.
Speaker 3I said, looking, man, we got the cool thing was?
The cool thing was Crystal.
Chris always takes care of me at the bank.
Crystal and the other young lady she's new.
They were sitting there like I was like, man, we're scaring them.
Things like oh no, we know football.
Speaker 1So they were man too.
So just so y'all know the girls at the bank of Man too.
Speaker 3Right, You pulled this energy out of me, bro, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1I need to get this off my chest.
Speaker 2And people in the bank apparently.
Speaker 1The bank was awesome.
Speaker 2She were screaming.
Security surrounded you know.
Speaker 1White.
Speaker 3You look at there's a white people there that arrested me hopefully not hopefully not hopefully out.
Speaker 1I got a good.
Thank I ain't gonna say nothing.
I got a good good that's good.
I need I need them to answer something to my checking account.
Speaker 5Uh yeah, well listen, I we don't have enough time to unpack all the things you guys were wrong about Shore Sanders, we said on the break.
Speaker 2But I but I do what I ask you.
I did want to ask you about JK.
Speaker 5Dobbins because he seems like right now the best player on offense.
Speaker 2Why is he not more involved?
Speaker 3You know what, the kid has done everything you ask him to do.
He's running ball.
Well, I'm looking at the avery seven point five yards of carry.
Speaker 1We got to get more than eleven carries.
Speaker 3My thing is the way you take pressure off of ten is you get the ball to twenty seven.
You get the ball to twenty seven.
I would like to see personally, I would like to see Harvey get more carries.
But if two seven is run the ball like that.
You feed them, man, You just keep feeding them and it opens up play action and stuff like that can work when you have a running game.
But I don't think our offensive sets let us run keepers, because we don't run the ball out of a quarterback under center, running backs coming downhill, because we're always in this pistol.
I personally hate the pistol.
That's just me because I don't think it gives you enough weapons for the type of for the type of quarterback that we have.
We need keepers, we need bootlegs, those types of things, and we can't do that with those particular sets.
That's exactly what we saw last night if you watch the Baltimore Ravens Detroit Lions game, and that's exactly what Greg Roman use.
Speaker 1With Justin Herbert.
He knows that he's a mobile quarterback.
Speaker 4And Greg Roman has had multiple mobile quarterbacks in his time as an overse, so he allows those guys to embrace who they are.
Speaker 1And to me, it's it's.
Speaker 4Let's take the handcuffs and the training wheels and the governor off of bowl, allow him to go out and be a wild third bread.
Speaker 5Oh is that what you think is going on, like, do you think that Sean Payton has put the handcuffs on him?
Speaker 1Well, I'm just I'm just talking about it.
Speaker 4From the play calling and the play design, that's what it looks like to me.
And and sometimes as a player you have to find ways to overcome coaching.
I can do that from a dB standpoint, From a quarterback standpoint, that's.
Speaker 1A little hard.
It's hard.
It's harder.
Speaker 3You got to stay within the lines.
It's kind of like bowling with the with the with the with the rails up.
You can't sway outside the because everybody's not on that same page when you go, when you go kind of scrambling around doing your thing.
It's hard to do your thing like that unless it's by design.
And like I said, a lot of guys are so adamant about being right.
Well I ran my right route, but you didn't play football.
We needed an extra yard.
Speaker 1We get over.
Speaker 3We need to get open, we need to get we need to move these sticks.
And I've said this before.
Shannon Shawe told me, hey, man, ten and a half yards, get ten and a half.
He said, if you get ten and a half, we go score every time.
And so sometimes I think some of the situation, we're catching passes so short of the sticks.
So that here's one thing like with niggas can kind of lude to what Nick saying.
The play design shouldn't even been that way so that you can be short of sticks.
There's no way I'm gonna be short sticks.
But we gotta And I heard coach say this, and he said we were in a lot of third and longs.
Speaker 1Our third downs.
Speaker 3Were third and eleven plus, right, you know, why look at our first down?
Speaker 1Our first down was terrible.
Why do you fix that first down?
First?
Speaker 3First down is a first down, is definitely this is when you dial up plays that you know you can run.
First down is not a tech.
But to me, first down is not one of those downs where you take chances.
I know some people think, oh, take chances on first down.
No, I want to get the second and medium.
Speaker 1Now I can.
Speaker 3Now I can do some stuff because I get the second and six.
I just still run the ball thirty six.
It ain't ideal, but I can still do it.
But it's hard to run the ball third and eleven.
Speaker 2So some of your strongest plays.
Speaker 1Some of my strongest got your plays.
Speaker 3I'm gonna run no matter what defense you're in, I'm gonna spread you out.
I'm gonna make sure Derwin James is back, or Derwin James in the box.
I got one on one.
I'm throwing this quick slant.
That slant gonna get me seven to ten yards on first down.
Oh it's second and one.
Now I'm doing these bombs.
Now, I'm trying these reverses.
Now, I'm trying all this other stuff because my likelihood of a first down goes up tremendously if my first down gets better.
Speaker 1I don't know who keeps the stats.
Speaker 3Look up the stats of what we are on first down, and I guarantee you it correlates identical.
Almost we get nothing on first, we guarantee to get nothing on third.
Speaker 5Well, I mean, yesterday Walter Football and it's his own measurement or whatever whatever's on staff, but the Broncs were dead last and success rate on first down like as far as his so it said, any thing or whatever he's he's.
Speaker 2Tying into that, but you know, dead last in the NFL.
Speaker 5The Colts remarkable are number one, actually, but I would I think I would translate to why we're seeing so much success for them?
But they they feed the running back who's playing at a very high level in Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2Uh, they look at the route concept.
Speaker 1That's right, they're spreading it out.
Daniel Jones balls out of his hands once he hits the.
Speaker 4Back foot, even when he's in the shotgut Ball's ball's gone right now.
Speaker 3Like I said, year his six years in New York with that trash def off his line, they head.
Speaker 1You know what, it taught him to get rid of his football.
He did it excellent against us.
At the ball.
We had good coverage, but the ball.
Speaker 3Placement was excellent, and I have to give him credit for that whole placement.
Speaker 1But here's here's the thing.
Speaker 3If we're dead last on first down, it's hard to be good on third.
Speaker 1It's hard.
Speaker 3You you, it's hard to be on third down in his league because these guys good.
Speaker 4And how many plays do you have as an often coordinator on your waffle house menu that can pick up third and eleven third and nineteen third and twenty.
Speaker 1Seven times with third and long A lot?
Speaker 3Yes, And it's only so many plays and so many designs that like Nick saying.
Speaker 1You're gonna have on the shoot, you know what, I got to get better.
Speaker 3At first down, I'm lined up my quarterbacks under center.
I got my two receivers, two tights.
I might have either my full back or slop back or age back, and I'm running the ball downhill to kick me two or three.
Speaker 1On first down.
Speaker 3The kid is averaging six seven yards to carry just from of the ones he's breaking.
But he's consistently getting you three to four pop.
Speaker 1But why are we not running on first down?
See on first down what I see?
Speaker 3And I could be wrong because I don't watch everything to this entire day like that.
But on first down is when we try our got you plays, the kind of scheme plays, try the little this is what we drew up in the lab type thing for this.
Speaker 1We try those on first down.
Speaker 3So now it's second to ten or it's a quarterback trips or the running back gets tripped up nine, second and twelve.
Speaker 1And you know what we usually do on second down?
We run the ball.
Speaker 3Check check the stats on what percentage of.
Speaker 1Time we were running on second down?
Speaker 3Why we running on second when the second and twelve then we get stopped.
Speaker 1And they played on our side of the ball.
Speaker 3He said, Therefore against our five.
Speaker 1They won those dudes were hunting.
Speaker 3And you think Cincinnati got a defensive line, that's crazy.
Speaker 1The Eagles got a defensive line, that's crazy.
The Chiefs got a defensive line.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3We gotta fix that first down like this week, we gotta fix it.
Speaker 5I hope they do that because I'm worried about your blood pressure just a little bit.
O.
Speaker 3Blood press is fine, man, every wreet game, my blood press is good.
Speaker 2Sean's let's take care of Rod.
Speaker 5Let's win this week, friends, burn all brights are doing the Madden go for it on fourth and one from your on twenty nine.
Speaker 2Do it Madden, Man, it's just mad.
Speaker 1We rip it being up too.
We put Ben in it.
Speaker 5You know.
Speaker 2For what twenty The math is irrefutable.
Speaker 4You cost yourself thirty percent.
Speaker 1How many mathemats is you size?
You wanted the ball?
Speaker 2What happened?
Speaker 1What they putted the ball?
Speaker 2What happened?
Speaker 1We were allowing on our defense?
We lost.
They putted the ball like you guys want.
Speaker 3They ain't lay lost.
We had the ball in four quarter?
How many times that we didn't score?
Speaker 1What about those?
Speaker 2Well, that was one of the possessions you could have scored.
You could have gone for that.
Speaker 4Hand, Ben, we already might have played man football.
Speaker 1The life situations a thing.
I can tell you this.
Speaker 3You're gonna be the highest played coach ever or the shortest tenured coach ever.
Speaker 2That's all, okay, there's no in between.
Speaker 3You get that right now and in the way the world is in sports now, you gotta win immediately or you.
Speaker 1Out of it.
Put me in.
Speaker 2I promise you, I'll sewn.
You only make twenty million a year.
They got me in thirty now, Dan gal Will probably would have gone for it.
Speaker 1Dan, you know what you know what that is is trust?
Trust this guy.
No, I'm saying Dan Campbell.
Trust.
Speaker 3I believe trust is the ultimate, the ultimate equalizer, and sports is trust when you get when you play with guys and you play four teams that had the best trust, they win more games.
Why do you think I went on that earlier about we could call plays and call him out loud and because we trusted each other and we knew every man down the line is gonna get his job done.
Speaker 2I trusted I trust him at the half yard.
Speaker 1You trust you with the half yard?
I trust would push no nd jk ont a two blasting between the in between the big gaps.
Speaker 3Yeah whatever, Okay, learn what you're saying after the fact.
Don't it make sense after the fact.
Speaker 2But I'm screaming at the time.
I mean he was there.
I was screaming it at the time.
Speaker 3You scram that when you ain't got a boss that you gotta ask you after.
Speaker 1You lose it.
You're saying the same thing.
The mass the massive.
Speaker 3Jacksques different things.
You check, the checks make you do different things.
You get paid, then you would be.
Speaker 1When you ain't getting.
Speaker 2Paid about being a maverick comes to being right, you aren't right, I.
Speaker 1Am because anybody running, anybody going forward on fourth down and.
Speaker 5Half a quarter left, very very quickly, here, very quickly.
The Broncos true ball's got the ball back again.
Speaker 2Even after that decision, exactly did get the ball back.
Speaker 5They had a chance to win the game fall on office, even after deciding to punt the ball there.
Speaker 2Okay, that's all I had to say.
Speaker 5They didn't need that though they get the fourth they don't.
Speaker 2You completed that past.
Speaker 1The corley raised your sol field chance to win.
Okay, what about Sixtyso.
Speaker 5Lose it, you know you cost your You went from wins to fifty one.
Speaker 3I don't know too many math guys that played for football play protect us and plass.
Speaker 2You don't seem to do plenty five Alex Smith.
Speaker 1I'm a smart person.
I love math too.
But you know what, I didn't take no map on the football filce.
I'm just telling you yards that's what I know.
Speaker 2Okay, Nick, this was fun.
Speaker 1Thank you.
It was fun.
Speaker 2It was fun.
Great, great job.
Speaker 1I love watching YouTube fight man, so it's hilarious.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 5I went on to fight, yeah, because that would require somebody to be right and one wrong.
Speaker 1Yes, which is every time I come here, y'all fight.
Speaker 2And y'all right, we know who we're talking about coming two people wrong?
Speaker 1What are you talking about?
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