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How are you, oh, lovely?

Couldn't be better?

Well, I'm surprised I did that because your New West salmon Bellies.

Rick's from Newestminster raised there game four Mann Cup last night.

The salmon bellies are having trouble left getting off to a roaring start in that series.

Up to nothing series now tied at to ten to three for Six Nations.

Last night over the Bellies, they won Game three nineteen nine.

Game five tonight at Queens Park.

Will see if the Salmon Bellies can bounce back.

Come on, pick it up, guys.

The Six Nations goaltender was great last night.

No fights in the stands, but a lot during the game.

I got a little heat it heat it at the end.

So it's starting to build up.

It's starting to build up some hatred in this series, Donny, But let's go Salmon Bellies.

Yeah.

Oftentimes, and I go way back with this sport, the team that travels has and you know East versus West, the team that travels, in this case East to West a long flight, you have to get adjusted.

They will often not be at their best the first game or two jun teams.

Seems that might be the case here and they've finished to bounce back and tie it up.

So best of luck to the Bellies.

Canucks.

Meanwhile, okay, did you want to say anything else about the no but new West Queen's Park Canucks camp opens on the eighteenth and Penticton.

That's next Thursday.

Yeah, okay, Prospects Showcase Saturday and Sunday in Everett and Seattle, respectively, that's coming up this weekend.

We'll deal with that.

There's some interest in the roster, of course there is.

There's some interesting choices with the Canucks' roster for that Prospect's Showcase.

We'll deal with that a little bit later.

But in this first segment you wanted to deal with.

We wanted to deal with the situation with the Hughes brothers.

This story, Like I was saying to myself last week, Donny self on Talk I talk to myself quite a bit.

I was saying to myself, the Canucks need a drama less season.

Last year, Miller Peterson, it was crazy.

They were in the news for all the wrong reasons.

Start a new year, the outside noise, none of it.

And here we go the first week we're on the air, we got outside noise.

And this story is not dying.

It's just not going away.

It's just the way people are interested.

It's okay, and it shouldn't be here.

It shouldn't be here.

Listen.

Look, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

Yeah, you want people to care about things, and it's understandable that people would care about the future of their best player in Quinn Hughes, by the way, that's the conversation you had with yourself.

I talked to I go on walks, I walk the dog.

I talked to myself, and I was just saying.

I've seen that that's a concern.

I was just saying that, you know, the Canucks need a drama less season, Dawn.

I always say that, you know, when you do talk to yourself or you think to yourself, if people knew the things that we think about, oh like that, you know, I don't have this job anymore.

That's for sure.

That is true.

More on that later.

Meanwhile, Quinn Hughes yesterday in Vegas, right, make that Jack Hughes yesterday in Vegas.

Talk to Pierre Lebron and he had this to say.

We talked about it yesterday.

We see the code board here.

Yeah, this is from Pierre Lebron.

TSN used to be on our show on a regular basis.

Where do you end up?

The quote is this is a headline question?

You know, this is the possibility.

Pierre asked him about the possibility of Jack one day playing with Quinn.

This is the headline question.

Honestly, I'm not afraid to say it.

Yeah, I would love for Quinn too.

Eventually, I'd love to play with him.

And whether that's in Jersey or what time that takes, at some point, I want to play with Quinn.

But yeah, that's the question going around.

They talk all day about it up in Vancouver, you know.

But yeah, this is really hockey player talk, by the way.

But yeah, I'd love to play with Quinn at some point.

And you made this point yesterday.

I can't remember it was on the air, off the air, you know this his brother brother.

Of course he's gonna say what he wants to play with him?

Is that?

That is it?

That big a deal?

Might not ever happen.

You know, there's a lot of things that have to happen in order for that to happen.

Not that not that big a deal.

And today Pierre caught up with Quinn.

Hughes is now down in Vegas.

I got that right, right, he's Vegas.

Down in Vegas, media assembled down there, and this is what Quinn had to say to Pierre.

Okay, you do the honest this time, but don't mean the whole thing.

Just the quotes.

Yeah, and so this is Quinn Hughes saying, I mean he's my brother.

What's he supposed to say?

First of all, like, I don't want to play with him, you know, I mean we have contracts and whatnot.

He's on a different team.

Would it be fun to play with those guys at some point?

Of course?

I think if you got brothers, you guys would say the same thing.

But we do have contracts.

I'm excited to be in Vancouver.

I feel like last year was a bit of a failure.

So I feel like I got things to do there.

And I know Jack loves he loves New Jersey and he's got stuff to do.

Also, Quinn also added that he's absolutely has no problem with Jack saying what he said yesterday.

That's just him being authentic.

Quinn said, So, look, has the family talked about it?

Mom and dad around the fireplace, the kids after dinner?

Yeah, I mean common sense tells you they've talked about its.

Common sense tells you they probably don't have a wood burning fireplace.

What's wrong with the fireplaces now, Donnie?

You?

Yeah, the electrical ones said they it goes foof you see the flames.

So the Hughes.

What if it's midsummer though, don You don't think around the campfire the Hues have talked about this, not the campfire but the fire fellows, Donnie, you don't think.

They've talked about it, of course.

Yeah, you don't think Pat Person and J.

P.

Barry, the agents, they can't talk, are they around the campfire?

Around the campfire?

Listen.

As a family, they probably have talked about it, but getting it done is a whole lot tough.

It's human nature.

So basically Quinn saying what you said yesterday, that he is a brother.

They're brothers.

You know Stashne's played together, Peter Paul and you know the Stashne brothers in Quebec, remember in the eighties, Don.

Yeah, and none of them were named to Paul and Peter.

Anyways, the Sutters Peter, Marian and Anton.

Peter Marian and Anton.

Maybe they had a brother named Paul and.

The Stutters played together.

You were thinking of Peter, Paul and Mary.

I think of Peter, Paul and Mary band in the sixties, the Stash's play one of their songs.

The Stashne's played together, Don, back in the eighties, all three of them for Quebec for the Quebec ridis.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy, I tell you, Peter Stancey, what old boy?

Was he ever good?

And he was the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.

Just a huge man man.

And I don't think story when they came over.

Well, I don't think.

I believe I've got the stat right.

And we're off topic a bit here.

That happens a lot on the show.

Peter stats the second most NHL points in the eighties to Wing Gretzky.

Right, what a player?

He was not a ton of team success there, but what what a player?

Just just a just a horse.

The Plaguer brothers do you remember them.

Brothers Saint Louis.

Oh, this was a weird song.

Play one of their heads, right tough the Magic Dragon.

Oh that puff the.

Magic Yeah, I remember that song.

So this is Peter Paul Yeah, allegedly about smoking what the kids like to call marijuana.

Say, the most people call it marijuana.

So this Mary Jane back in the day.

The song is about marijuana, allegedly.

Fun fact, they wrote it around a fireplace.

The three of them are sitting in the campfire.

I think about it.

Poppy right of teaching chunk stuff and one thing about Peter Paul and Mary.

None of them played for the Confector.

Maybe they tried out.

I'm not I was thinking Peter Paul, Okay, I can I say turn the music off?

Right?

I want to say this right?

Oh right there puff the Magic Dragon.

Okay, slow, it's too slow.

It's too slow.

Songs too slow.

It's like an old like folks see battle and I got some information say something.

By the way, well, I think that song was like a number one hit.

Really off.

Yeah, there's how much weed were they spoken back?

Then?

You know what The other thing is is I could be wrong on this.

I think we heard it in like elementary school.

Oh yeah, it's like what.

They twisted like a kid's song nobody.

Allegedly it's about weed.

Right, it's not that far off.

But if you saw I gotta say something here like again, way on subject.

But I think I've got this right.

Jimmy Fallon and Kevin Bacon did a takeoff on Peter Paul and Mary.

Is unbelievable, and it's somehow morphed into you two.

It's it's unbelievable.

Yeah, no, don't.

This is a live version.

There they are.

Released in nineteen sixty three.

See the kids singing it.

Yeah, oh my goodness.

But the kid doesn't know.

It's just look at that they're competing with the Beatles and winning.

At one point the film, look at these people.

They love it, then they DONTEI the Jimmy Fallon takeoff on.

This is unbelieving.

I think I know what you're talking about.

Oh my gosh, it's very good.

Okay, okay, we got to cut it out.

Ryan my Well, I wanted to say this.

I wanted to say this.

Okay, it's stop it.

The Quinn Hughes thing.

He is not a uf eight.

He's got two years left on his deal.

The Canucks can't talk to him till July first.

Got July first.

But here's the thing.

If the Canucks get an indication from Quinn that he's not going to sign July first, they got to move right away.

Mitch Marter just did a whole year in Toronto as a uf fate outside noise.

It was crazy.

Now Edmonton's going through it with Connor McDavid.

He's not signing.

Connor McDavid is not signing.

The Canucks can't go into the UFA season with the Quinn here.

If they get an inkling at the draft that he's not signing, move on.

You know you're talking with this coming twenty twenty six.

He's got two years, he's got two but they can talk contract with them July first.

There there will be a lot of noise.

But I was gonna mention the Plaguer brothers they played together, and there I know there are other examples of brothers, three brothers playing.

The Southern Brothers had six but three brother the Hunters, for for instance, playing together.

I remember the plaguer is playing to get other the old timer's out there like me will remember Bill, Bob and Berkley park together Saint Louis with the Saint Louis Great Hockey family.

So look, folks, people are crazy about hockey.

This story is not going to go away until Quinn signs on the dotted line.

That's somewhere.

That's it, and the speculation is there.

And I was I was going to say this too, like, let's not forget that.

Well, I'm not going to forget this that when and I'll never forget it.

When Luke got drafted, and remember it was in the Hughes family home in the think they're around a fireplace, fire pit, and he got drafted by New Jersey and then Jack just jumped up them jump and I just thought to myself, you know what a what Quinn's thinking right now?

You know, I'm very happy for his brother, no doubt about it.

They're living in a dream world, you know, like the chances of them playing together very remote.

But I just wonder what he was thinking at that point.

One more thing people remember this, Quinn Hughes is going to be a UFA.

These players work hard to become UFA's doney because their club control for seven eight years.

After they're drafted, they can't go anywhere until you get UFA status.

He's worked hard all his life and when you become a UFA, you can go anywhere you want.

And I know you wanted to add to this.

Ryan.

There was another reporter who was talking who referred to and lived it was down in Vegas.

Referred to what Jim Rutherford had to say.

Yeah, but this is a few months ago after after the season was over to two parts.

Josh Clipperton from Canadian Press, Quinn he was and if he's surprised all the chatter, but his future two years out from UFA status and Jack's comments.

Yes and no, obviously Jack wants Jack wasn't the first one to bring it up.

In fairness to him.

That's a shot at Rutherford, a shot, but it's honest, it's fact.

I mean he's right.

I mean Jim is the one that jokingly brought it up at that year end presser.

Yeah.

Uh.

The follow up was asked by Greg Rushinski.

He asked Quinn a out Rutherford's public declaration that Hughes quote wants to play with his brother.

Quinn said, quote, I don't know.

Jim's a smart guy.

Jim's doing, you know, what he wants to do.

I've got a lot of respect for Jim, so I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, the devils weren't happy.

I don't think, well, Quinn couldn't be joking.

Give a Quinn why, I know he's joking, and I you know what, and we always talk about we get we don't get enough honest comments from people, and you know, we we dissect things, but like it's on everybody's mind, and then you bring that up, and then Rick's right care you add another organization into it though, because remember he was talking about basically essentially talking to the devils at some point like it's.

Not for the Canucks until he re signs.

This story's not gonna die.

It's not gonna go away.

And every time the Canucks play the Devils, or anytime, it's just gonna pop up again and again and again and again.

I'll tell you what Jim Rutford would remember.

You're Paul and Mary probably Oh yeah, right, yea, more on that later.

Okay, here's what's coming up on the show, DTMZ.

Is it just me coming up in the eleven o'clock How.

I'm gonna drop this in as the show goes along?

Who does is it Peter Peter with the mustache?

Well, they both have mustaches, Oh they do.

Harry does not.

She is us that we know of, dtmz.

Is it just me?

Look at this guy?

They'd love it.

They're all stid.

Yeah, and that guy's not a kid, you know, DMZ.

It was a big hit.

Where did it go?

Look at the charts?

Sixty three It was released in sixty three.

Let me up.

Yeah, I'm thinking I've got sixty three.

Here, DTMZ.

Is it just me coming up in the eleven o'clock hour?

You're what's going to join us just after eleven.

Peter, Paul and Murray.

That's right, they'll be sitting right here.

Scott Rintle.

Oh yeah, our friend from from going way back for me with Sports Net Sports Page TSN.

He has a new podcast.

It has to do with sports parents.

He's been involved in several podcasts and Scott's got a a podcast called Better Sports Parents.

And that's something that I know Ryan's gonna have to We've dealt with being dealt with sports parents.

Brian's gonna have to deal with that.

Man.

What a what a great focus for a podcast.

Scott's gonna join us just after eleven o'clock.

Big Ride.

The Twitter guy coming up later this hour.

Did we find out Dolly was right?

Sixty three?

It peaked on the weekly charts at number two.

Number two the Billboard gone wrong.

It wasn't number one the year end.

It finished at number sixteen in the Billboard.

So sixty three.

They weren't necessarily competing with the Beatles.

In no no, but I mean it says the US Billboard Middle Road Singles.

It peaked at one.

Yeah, I don't know what what that's.

That's pretty You talk oftentimes about the low point of over the last several years.

This might be it Yeah and up next to talk or He's back, great guy, Ian Furness from KGr Sports rated to talk about the Sea Aux and the Kraken and the Mariners, all things Seattle sports wise.

I Infurness is next, Thanks so much for tuning in.

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Our friend Ian for an sc and thanks for doing this here.

How are you?

How is your summer?

That was great?

Probably not as great as yours since you guys took the summer off.

So I'm jealous of that, but I appreciate.

I'm surprised you're inviting me back, but I appreciate it.

So good to see you guys.

Oh, no brainer, Hey, forty nine ers comeback.

They beat the Seahawks seventeen thirteen or Seattle fans okay with being victimized by Jake Tanjas.

No, they're they're less than okay, Donnie, not okay.

Things are not good down in Seattle right now.

Losing the forty nine ers anytime is tough.

A third string tight end with no career catches, beating your cornerback in rieg Wollan, who had such a great rookie year, has kind of fallen off since.

And you know, there's so many things that go into that game, not going forward on fourth and one for Seattle and watching brock Purty just victimized well, and not not just on that play, but a play before that.

To Ricky Piersall, it was it was a rough weekend for Seahawks fans, and safe to say they're not over.

It just yet.

Sixteen for twenty three, one hundred and fifty yards.

What was your opinion of Sam Darnold's Seattle debut.

I thought he got victimized by his own coaching staff, to be honest with you.

You know, last year we talked a lot about Ryan Grubb, the offensive coordinator, came from Washington College.

Guy didn't really adapt to the pro game in the NFL, wider hash marks and you know, a desire to drive the ball down the field oftentimes and yet you know, not get it to say a guy like DK Metcalf, and we heard about, you know, the Kubiak offense and kind of a timing passing offense.

It was a weird day, Donnie and rick.

It was very strange.

He had thirteen targets to Jackson Smith and Jigba, and he had eleven combined to every other receiver.

None to their third receiver, Tory Horton, who's supposed to be the new DK Metcalf.

Not size wise, there's only one Dk, but a guy that's a speed guy that can get down the field take the top off of a defense.

It was just a he only had three targets to Cooper Cup.

And yes, Cup did have a drop, which normally doesn't happen for him, but it was just a you know, there's a lot of concern, not concerned.

I guess there's a lot of criticism going Ryan Grubb or Klint kubiakx Way the new offensive coordinator and you know, hard to tell, hard to kind of judge Darnold and on you know, what was given to him on the plate.

I think I've asked you this before, Ian, but what what has happened to the Seahawks' dominance at Lumenfield any particular reason or is it just one of those things?

Yeah, guys, I think it's there's a couple of things.

One and you guys probably see this with the Canucks.

I mean, heck, we sometimes see what the Kraken.

I mean, tickets are expensive, and you know, depending on who's coming to town.

Season ticket holders over the years, it's not just Seattle, but to other places have decided, hey, you know, we can sell tickets to a game or two and make all of our money back and go to the other six, seven, eight, whatever it is games from Seattle for a for a football team, and the forty nine ers always travel well, they come up here.

There's a lot of transplants from the Bay Arey in Seattle.

Frankly, when I was traveling with the team for all those years, I saw I saw Seattle fans do the same thing and uh, and they would take over stadiums all across the country.

Still do UH.

And you know there's teams like the La Chargers haven't never played a home game, Rams play a fifty to fifty stadium most week.

And so far.

But as far as you know, so that's the crowd element of it.

So it's not the same crowd now.

Sunday was good.

Sunday was pretty good.

That it's kind of skewed because when you're watching the TV feed and the cameras shoot across the side towards the visiting side, most of the tickets that are desirable to be sold by season ticket holders are sold behind the visit the visiting bench, and so you see.

Like a sea if red over there.

You know the rest of the stadium for the most you know, there were reports there's gonna be fifty one forty nine er fans in the state in the stadium.

That wasn't even closed to be the case.

But yeah, they the fans are one thing.

It's odd.

They were a great road team last year and a horrible home team and that you know, that start hopefully for Seattle's sake, the seahawks sake.

It continues this week as they go to Pittsburgh.

All right, let's talk hockey.

Come on, let's go the cracking.

Eric, Hey, let's go.

They missed the playoffs last two years, but they got a new coach and new GM.

Where do they fit right now?

This is the fifth year for the krack and where are they fitting in that Seattle sports landscape?

For you?

Well, let's do they missed the playoffs?

Donnie?

Did you know that?

I didn't know that, you know, Rick, That's why we have you here right now.

Two years in a row, and it better not be three years in a row.

Well, you know what, I think you're correct.

I think that's what they were thinking when they decided to fire damp File.

It better not be three years in a row.

Man.

You know, they've done some great things off the ice, and one of those things, you know, they lowered concession prices, especially for season ticket holders this coming season.

Unprecedented sports and they're doing some incredible things in that regard.

The building is still packed every night and so and you know, despite you know the guy you're looking at right now.

The TV ratings are through the roof when they moved to terrestrial television over the year, broadcast in prime video as well, So all those things helped the off ice product.

On ice, it's been a struggle for a lot of reasons.

They had to let Dave Haxtall go and it was time to move on.

They brought on Dan Bilsman.

He'd done such a great job in Coachella with the young guys, and so they did.

They brought Dan in, and frankly, my one man's opinion, I think the game kind of had he The game had outgrown Dan, Like you.

Know, he was great twenty years ago.

And we see this all the time.

I do a weekly thing with Mike ho Longrin on radio here in Seattle, and I don't know if Mike could coach in today's NFL, and some guys maybe can't coach in today's NHL.

He wasn't and it was an older staff outside of Jessica Campbell.

And so they made a move.

And I think We've talked about this a ton of times.

I've always applauded them for this.

If something doesn't work, they change it.

Like they don't, they don't stay in place, and well, hopefully it'll get better.

They don't worry about the money aspect.

They're paying three coaches.

So they brought into guy in Lay Lambert, who's a lot more structured defensive structure.

Last year was awful.

I mean, you guys could see that.

It was just it was and for just so strange.

The cord wore down a little bit.

The injuries to Everly and Dunn crushed this team.

And you know, I'm talking to you guys about injuries.

We all every team has injuries, but you know, they're just not deep enough in that sense.

But I think they're going to.

I'd be stunned if we're talking, if we're if we're not talking about a team at least in the playoff mix.

Post Olympic break.

I'm excited to set Lambert brings and his new coaching staff.

I love Chris Taylor as an assistant coach.

I think he'll bring a dynamic to the offense and especially the power play.

So but as far as the landscape, we're very very cyclical.

Guys.

It's football season now, It'll it's baseball season now, it'll be hockey season soon.

Rookie camp starts for for the krack and tomorrow.

But they're solidly entrenched here.

They just need to win games.

They need to get back to the postseason.

They need to do that, and I think they at least be in the mix this season.

Yeah, you know, Lane Lambert's number one job's gonna be the power play was twenty third last year, the PK was twenty first.

Yeah, that's got to be two areas where he tackles right away.

Yeah, you know, which was odd that the penalty kill was so bad, you know, with the court had such a great first three quarters of the season.

Like I said, I think he kind of wore down.

You know, you can point to some really simple numbers for why this team was twenty points out of a playoff spot, and we kind of equated down here to help our fans with you know, they're ten games out, you know, which is a baseball term.

We're talking about baseball now so much here.

There are ten games out.

Well.

You know, Philip Grubauer had fifty six potential points in his starts last season twenty three starts.

Guys he had twelve points.

He earned twelve points.

In his starts.

Think about that, like, like, if he's just okay, not even really average.

If he's just okay, they're in it.

The penalty kill and the PK like Rick you meant, and they're both in the bottom third in the league.

If those things are just around average, they're in it.

And so you just change a couple of those things.

Like I said, I think the new staff will be able to do that.

They'll they'll have more patience with this staff.

They knew what Bilesma was about.

I think there was some pressure to hire him from within because of the development of guys like Wright and others in the in the farm system for the couple of years using Coachella.

But you know, they went out and got a guy that, yeah, didn't work his first time around.

Although you can look at the records some of the underlying numbers and I think Lane's you know, he's a good hockey man, very organized, But yeah, it was it was a weird, strange season.

I don't think we any of us saw what was coming.

There's other the other thing is too and you guys know this because I think I think there's a guy named ep forty still on your team.

Sometimes sometimes your best players have to play better, like sometimes they just have to step up, and you know, Maddie Beniers has to be better.

You know, I think they're They like Shane Wright's development so far.

Remember Shane Wright turned twenty one last January.

Like he's still a kid, but they like his development.

Boy Coppolcackle really changed things for that team when they got him.

Uh, there's a lot of young, good young players.

They don't have an aircraft carrier, you know, they don't have that dude like you know, and but but they have some good young players.

I like their I like their makeup.

I'm just shocked.

I think we were all shocked last year how bad they were on the PK and just how bad they were defensively.

And I you know, there was talk about the lack of structure.

I heard that all season long.

So I think that'll change and that hopefully that will help baseball.

Uh.

Yes, Ian cal Rawley just how popular and Mariners playing well?

How popular is he down in Seattle.

And he's of course an al MVP candidate.

Yeah, he's Donnie.

He's the guy like you know, I if we look at like, who's the most popular athlete, most important athlete in Seattle, it's it's him or Julio.

Right now.

The Seahawks don't have that guy.

The Seahawks just don't have a dude.

Uh.

They got good players.

Devin Witherspoon's a potential All Pro and they've got some good players, a bunch of you know, Pro bowlers, but you know, with the days of the superstars, like the big name guys Marshawn or whoever, they're not here with the Seahawks right now.

Uh.

And the Krack and don't we just talked about the crack and don't have an aircraft carrier.

Uh, this is a guy like like Cal Ray is so popular, big dumper, you can't go go wrong with the name.

And then Julio's number two.

To be honest with you, Like those guys are one two right now.

If you're just saying, who are the most popular, most important, most impactful athletes in Seattle, it's Cal and Julio.

And you know Julio's right there with him.

He's gonna finish in the top ten in MVP voting too, So it's it's been a fun summer man, watching I like watching history, you know.

I thank you guys are the same way.

We're all old here, Donnie older than the rest of us, Rick, right, but we're all old here.

Uh.

And so when you got a guy like cal Raley's next home run ties Mickey Mantle for the most home runs by a switch hitter, to me, that's that's crazy.

Like Mickey Mantle when you're in that same game conversation, that's that's that's special territory.

It's been a it's been a fun summer so far.

I wish I was old enough to know who you were talking about that Mickey who.

Yeah, that's that's not right.

You watched his game as a rookie, I think back, that's that's what Ryan just told me.

In my ears, it wasn't me, that's what Ryan I remember.

Hearing about him as a prospect exactly.

Hey, By the way, I'm supposed to be nice to you guys this year because my good friend Tim Hinch, he's helping run the Canucks now in the front office, So I gotta be nice I can't.

I can't take shots at Tyler Myers or the rest of the Canucks anymore.

I got to be nice this year.

That's what I was told by my buddy Hinch, And you guys be nice to him.

He's a good man up there.

So no complaining about the Canucks, no complaining about the seats.

Ryan Hinch's gonna do a good job for you guys.

They've got they've gotten new seats and Ian, we're always nice.

And when it comes to the Knucks, all they have to do is commit to a rebuild and we'll be fine.

Ah, that's fine.

Yeah.

The no plan plan is what is that?

What Ray calls it, right, the no plan.

That's a plan going on.

I don't know if it's a good one, but it's a plan.

Ian.

Great to have you back, my friend, boys.

I look forward to it every week.

Thank you you bet I kJ R Sports Raid Cracking Hockey Network UH Cracking Prospects versus the Kannuck Prospects down in Washington State this coming weekend.

As we talked about in the first segment, By the way, Marin is just a game out in the American League West.

Jay's helping them out yesterday by coming back to beat the Astros a break.

We'll deal with the poll question next, Donnie Dela the team, won't you waddling dog poll question experience one of Victoria's iconic destinations, sleep, sip, and stock up, all in one legendary spot, Come.

Sit and stay at the dog today, Rick, all right, Ryan, get her up the waddling dog poll question of the day.

And it is as soon as Ryan gets her up.

What's more likely to happen with the Hughes brothers, Jack and Luke come back or come to Vancouver or Quinn goes to New Jersey?

And wow, look at this, sixty one percent say Quinn goes to New Jersey as opposed to the other way around, which is thirty nine seven hundred votes already.

And we didn't start this, I said, because we're starting to get the you guys, the negative.

What are you talking about?

Stop?

Stop?

This was started by the NHL and they have all their superstars gathering in Vegas.

Well you can go back to Jim Rutherford, Jim Rotherford starting last year.

Yeah, and you know, and so he was joking around.

This was not started by Vancouver media.

It was not started by us.

It was started by inviting the superstars to Las Vegas and people ask them questions and the Hughes brothers they love talking about it.

They love talking about it.

Don Well, as far as the results go, I mean, this is not surprising at all.

I think the majority of people who follow the Canucks, who care about the Canucks, want Quinn Hughes to stay.

But it's a lot easier to move one player versus two.

Right, absolutely just doesn't happen, and there's.

No way yet.

What what?

What?

What?

What?

What could the Canucks possibly give New Jersey for those two players?

Who are you know, superstars?

Come on?

Was there anything?

Canucks couldn't even get Rossi out of Minnesota, but they're gonna get Jack and Luke Hughes.

Well, you know they could give up Quinn, right, Quinn, here's for Jack and Luke.

Yeah.

By the way, can I emit a faux pall at the pole?

I should have also had all three go somewhere else, because you've had quite a few write in people replying to the pole saying that they'll go somewhere else.

Find a way to go somewhere.

Actually got a pretty hefty contract, That's the thing.

That's none as easy as people think.

Right, Well, Luca's on our fas you know.

Yeah, and we haven't talked about this.

Quinn's next contract on is going to be out of this world as well, like I mean, I mean it's the people are talking thirteen fourteen to fifteen million for Quinn Hughes as well.

Where's the cap going to be at that point?

Well, it'll be very high, yeah, But people are not factoring in because Luke Hughes has no contract right now.

He's in RFA with the Devil's he's hold out.

Uh.

But these three.

Think about the money these three on New Jersey would take up on the payroll.

Did we ever do you remember the sedeens ever talking about or rumors being bandied about about them going elsewhere together?

I don't, Well, when was he gonna help us out?

There?

Wasn't it the Toronto thing?

Yeah?

Isn't that Brian Burr something out and accused of tampering?

Right, he got in trouble.

He got slapped on the wrist right for talking about No, it wasn't Brian.

Burke, but I don't think they ever addressed it though.

It was the coach Wilson.

I think, uh, we're looking back into Ron Wilson.

I think mentioned that I just remember the least person tampering about the Sedins.

Yeah.

I know you didn't want to talk about this, you wanted to focus on something local.

But let's show the Frank Sarahvelli tweet today because we can.

We can connect it to what we were just talking about.

And you were talking about, you know what Quinn Hughes may demand on his next contract.

So Jack in year four of eight by the way, eight million of season bargain.

Yeah, yeah, it's one of those it's one of those early deals, right.

Yeah, but look at this from Franks, our friend, Frank Seahvelli.

Sources say Carole Capriso's camp turned down an extension offer from the Wild, believed to be eight years, one hundred and twenty eight million dollars, in a meeting on Tuesday in Minnesota.

It would have made him the highest paid player in NHL history in both AAV and total dollars.

And that AAV average annual value sixteen schmill per season.

So if caprisa is demanding or turning down that much from the Minnesota Wild, what's Quinn Hughes going to be asking.

For exactly and what's forget about Quinn Hughes.

What is Connor McDavid going to get if this guy's turning down sixteen And McDavid is not signed by the Oilers right now, Uh, he's in the final year of his deal.

What's Connor McDavid going to get if this guy's turning down sixteen.

I don't want to connect it to the conversation with with the Hughes brothers and Quinn Hughes in this market.

I mean it's well, who'd you rather have on your team?

Yeah, Caprice Off, Quinn Hughes, And you can talk about Kapriceoff being a superstar.

Quinn a Noro's trophy Wunner.

It's in a world that he's making ten million dollars more a season than his brother.

Quinn.

Yeah, well there is there a world Queen's making.

But Jack Hughes, Yeah, right now, that's a bargain.

By the way, is this not like a red flag's alarm bells sirens going off in Minnesota?

Like?

What's he turning it down for?

Like?

Because is that that tells me he doesn't want to be there.

That's what I miss Because you said, Donnie the owner of the GM in Minnesota made a comment about the contract would be this, it would be highest paid all that, so, so like, what more can the organization do?

This also tells me that the PA, like the PA does, put a bug in the ear of players, like they want the players, especially with the cap going up, and they want the players to get as much as they can.

Right, Sure, but how is he worth any more than that?

Well?

Because Rick, you you if you put that alongside McDavid, right, Because so let's say McDavid is twenty, that's that would be about.

Right, twelve and a half now McDavid, right, I mean I think twenty guys?

Good?

Right, I mean he's a good player, but more than sixteen good?

Okay, But okay, let's go back.

Let's connect it to the Canucks here.

Like again, I'll say what I just said.

How many people would like to have Caprice stuff on their team versus Quinn Ewes.

Yeah, at the very least, it's a split.

I would think.

Well, I mean, I know it's different position and all that, but Quinn's number starts with that, yeah, right, Like I mean, I mean Nora's Trophy winner finalist.

The only thing that makes if you're if you're a Canuck fan, the only real positive news out of this is that maybe somewhere down the line that eleven six is going to look pretty good.

He bounces back, bargain bargain, He gets back to being you are Petterson, You are right.

People are going to look at that.

And I've said it all along, it was a great deal.

Yeah, they're gonna look at that deal and go, that's that they knew what they were doing.

I thought you're gonna see the caduc shoul make a call for Capriso, see if you can pray him out of Minnesota.

They couldn't even get Marco Rossi out, So how are you going to get this guy out who wants sixteen?

Okay, So we'll deal with the Canucks prospects roster later on the show, yeah, or maybe later in the week.

We'll see.

Yeah, all right, what I have half a day left in my week?

Yeah?

Well okay, And I know your old thing, one year quit well one yeah, well yeah, you can see that about million athletes out there.

He's got one hundred point season.

I know that.

His point is like, why would you just not work one year?

Any quit?

Just enjoy the sixteen travel Yeah, you know, going your one of your LA cruises there supporting the American economy.

Stop doing that.

The cruise went to l A.

I had no choice in that, like sixteen million.

What do you mean I took that cruise because it was only four days.

I don't I don't want seven.

There's a Peter, Paul and Mary reunion on the cruise.

Yeah, attributes act it must yeah maybe, yeah, I'm not sure I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Did you get an update?

I'm going an update, Jeremy.

Jeremy did email me an update on the hands because I asked the hand So the bottom there that bottom photo.

He tells me the hands are in fact a designer chair.

There you go, Yeah, we called it.

Why why would you sit in that chair like that?

It looks incredible, the uncomfortable incredibly that's not yeah, it would No, I would use that as a show wood It must just look like wood.

Why would you sit in a wooden chair?

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Just had a big Rye the Twitter guy.

We mentioned the Stasty brothers before, and I was talking about how Paul wasn't one of the brothers who played for the Northeaks.

But let's not forget that Paul Stasney did play yeah in the National Hockey League.

His son played in the NHL.

But Paul is the Sun.

Yeah, that's where I got Paul from.

There you go, there you go, You're excused?

Yeah, big rye yes.

Again.

As we work through our backlog of photos from our time off to get this one in, Kevin sent this to us.

Okay, so it's Kevin and Brent.

They're both from Victoria, but for the last twenty five plus years they've been residents of Taiwan.

They've been living in Taiwan.

On Brent's most recent visit back, however, he stopped by the Bayside resort and picked up a couple of Donning Dolly t shirts for the both of them to wear, perfect for catching up on the show, which is of course late fifteen hours ahead, so they have to catch it a different time than we're on lot.

What's their business they spent all that time?

I don't know.

He just says, they've both been in Taiwan for twenty five plus years.

Thanks for the support guy, Taiwan.

Yeah, or watch a show on YouTube.

So Kevin and Brent they're in their D and D shirts in Taiwan, so unbelievable, fantastic.

Peter was Paul's dead yea, Moving on Paul people, They formed a band.

Yeah, this is from Larry in Port Moody.

How about this?

He sent us this.

This morning.

He said this to us.

He says, while visiting Montreal, we stopped by the Ken Dryden memorial outside the Bell Center to pay respect to Ken Dryden.

He brought his Dunny Dolly T shirt along.

They were actually doing a news report at the exact same time.

So it's Larry from Port Moody visiting Montreal outside the Bell Center where they have a small memorial for Ken Dryden.

I can't imagine before their first home I'm assuming they would do it in the preseason, right, they'll do it before the home opener, the ceremony, tribute, whatever it'll be, for all your specials.

It'll be always just simple and powerful.

I mean remember the Bellevue one with the seat.

They had that seat there the entire time.

Just it was something else.

You know, if you've been to the Bell Center, have you been?

No?

No, no, Like I'm not a fan, as you know.

If I happened, I have been, Yeah, have you?

I had?

The Great Cup?

Was there?

I went and then I went to a ABS game Saturday.

As you know, I'm not How do you not remember that?

I was good at Montreal Forum.

I got mixed up.

Okay, So in the Montreal Forum right now?

Is it the sight of the Forum?

It's a mall.

It's disappointed, It's It's okay.

But I'm not a fan of statues.

They freak me out right.

But the ones of La Fleur and how Marines and Rocket Rashard and Bellevue in front of the Bell Center, Yeah, unbelievable.

Yeah, you're right.

Nobody, nobody does it better than than.

The feel the history, even just outside the building.

You do.

Are you paying attention?

Attention?

Absolutely?

I love Montreal.

The fact that they that is just in a mall, though, is just so incredibly disappointing.

Is it may believed?

May believe gardens.

I think the rink is still alive, but it's in like a grocery store, isn't it now?

In Toronto, I believe it's converted into a grocery.

Yeah, I don't know, I believe.

I believe.

There's times I was in Toronto, you know, only I only walked by it.

You never went into and go in.

But on Montreal and Attwater there was just a it was just kind of tacky.

Then they had the stars on the that stars on the sidewalk.

Yeah, of the various players and a couple of them that have been chipped away, right, it was just I thought they do a better job.

Well, isn't it us privately owned now?

I guess yeah, And there's like a Tim Horns.

I think there's well, Okay, moving on the Lions.

I want to mention this.

The Lions this morning announcing they're bringing back a fan favorite, that is TJ.

Lee.

He's going to be rejoining the BC Lions.

He's been a free agent.

TJ has been working out.

He lives in Washington State, so he's been working out.

I've been seeing on his on his on his Instagram that he's been down there.

Two time All Star selection, TJ Lee.

Uh.

He's seventh, by the way, all time amongst Lions leaders for interceptions with twenty eight BRANCHI history.

So yeah, I mean, look at we talked a lot about they've brought in a lot of d linemen and defensive backs in the last two three weeks because of the NFL cuts and all that stuff.

But he wasn't in an NFL cut.

He was just down south and they said, hey, come back, leader.

Maybe they need leadership on that defense because the defense, oh my goodness, it just breaks down at the stupidest times.

Done Like Ottawa, how do.

You well when you have a big lead late if you mean, if that's what you mean by stupidest times, it's happening in the head game at home.

Yeah, they've had so many heartbreakers because the defense just folds like a cheap tent don at the wrong time.

So welcome back TJ.

Lee.

The Lions rematch with Ottawa Friday at DC Plays.

Yeah, it's there, it's there.

We should mention it, by the way, because the Lions dropped off some goodies for you guys.

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So there you go.

The Lions have a great theme going for like every one of their games, and if you go to their Twitter account, they have a million promos for tickets and just they just do an unbelievable everything.

Right.

Yeah, they got a star cornerback, star running back, and a star receiver.

But and they're putting up thirty points every game.

But it's not good enough done.

When your offense puts up thirty plus games, you should be winning, not losing.

Maybe gardens is a law loss.

Yeah, so it was right.

It wasn't Hertford drink.

David snow guy, Hertford drink was in them all.

I'm pretty sure, yeah it was called it was Yeah, well because yeah, through them all if you've been to the Hockey Hall of Fame, nokay, you go throw them all into the Hall of Fame.

And it was the same in Hartford.

Yeah, but didn't Ray tell you guys he bought a stereo after practice?

They remember famous.

Yeah that's right, okay, very quickly.

Actually, you know what, we're out of time.

I don't I want to don't want to keep Scotty rating our good pal.

I'll get to more as the week goes on.

Our good pal, Scott Rintool.

He's been on the program before, he's got he's got a brand new podcast out about sports parents.

The two you horrible, uh sports parents.

So you should be on the show, and Scotty should teach you.

I can be a better sports plant.

I hope Max is a star hockey player, and I just can't wait to see how you're going to be a psychle hockey.

I think he's going to be a baseball player.

I think he's gonna be a baseball will be a problem baseball minor baseball parent.

It doesn't matter what sport their psycho crazy parents.

Some stories, Rick, I heard, cheerleading is one of the Yeah i've heard that bad.

Yeah, yeah, we're really bad mom.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard that as well.

It does.

It's not just hot, isn't there Dark Hockey's got the most crazy parents in this country, for sure, in this country.

But the one you hear about it the most.

There's some un unbelievable, unbelievable video of bad hockey parents.

Oh you ever hear see the Paul thing?

No, the Paul example.

No, okay, well we'll uh.

People have no idea what I'm talking about.

Sometimes, you know, people sarcastically clap at refs as well.

That just happens.

Yeah, people listen, That wasn't that was an example of a bad hockey parent.

That was an example of a bad minor hockey coach.

Shame on you, Okay, that's a good point.

Shame on you.

Those kids are refs on the weekend they get forty.

You told us a story about are you ten, eleven, twelve years old?

Shame on you if you yell at those reps those kids.

I wasn't yelling.

He's doing that much worth demeaning them.

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Scott Rental, our friend, broadcaster, writer, producer, has a new podcast.

It's called Better Sports Parents.

Now.

I thought we'd set it up with this before we get to Scott.

I refer to this UH in the previous segment.

It's UH for a lot of people I know.

An infamous clip regarding a minor hockey parent.

I'm not sure where it took place.

I can't up north or I'm not sure.

I'm not sure where it took place or when it took place.

But it's it is infamous.

It's a it's a minor hockey game and a girls game and a parent gets upset with a scuffle that went on and the referee, in his opinion, not not handling things properly.

Sah, but no, I don't think so.

We saw one from Seattle about we're gonna move away from the location of but you'll get the idea.

You'll get the idea here and what you want to listen for very this clip became pretty uh infamous.

At the very end you can barely hear it, but one of the other parents yells, way to go, Paul, if we can run that.

Okay, have you seen that before?

I haven't seen that one, bere Yeah, you know.

And we just actually found out the location.

It was in North Vancouver, minor hockey game, girls game.

It was Scott.

Actually it wasn't way to go, Paul, This way to go Scott.

Scott.

Scott Rentel joins us.

Now father of two young daughters.

He's got a new podcast, Better Sports Parents.

Scott, thanks for doing this, sir.

How are you boys?

It's always great to talk to you.

I didn't know if we were going to be talking about ricks Cruz where or where we're gonna go with this segment, but.

And of course we're kidding around that that wasn't you.

But you've got this new You've got this new podcast, Better Sports Parents.

I think the name speaks for itself.

But what it's all What is it all about, Scutty?

Well, you said it, and that's it.

I want it to be pretty direct about it and pretty simple about it because you guys have been through it or are going through it, and if you've been in the youth sports environment right now, you know it's a lot different than the one that we tried to navigate when we were growing up and our parents went through.

It's a lot more complicated and there's so much more pressure.

And while it's pretty easy to watch videos like that or see the other ones where two people are getting a fight in the hallway or somebody's going after the referee after the game, that's easy bad parenting or bad sports parenting to spot.

But as you guys know, there's a lot of stuff that goes on week to week that people may not know is causing a negative effect on the youth sports environment or on their kids themselves.

And they're doing it out of good intentions.

But the idea here is to help everybody and provide a resource because what I've seen since being in the youth sports environment and being back in it is that there's so much more pressure.

It costs so much more, there's so much more of a time commitment.

I see parents that are overwhelmed guys, and I just want to help them.

Through professional athletes and people who have been to the highest level and have seen it all, I want to help use that conduit to help parents realize that they can breathe a little here and they don't have to be going at it the way they are.

Who are some of the people that you called upon for this podcast for advice, Scott.

So it starts with Alison Forsyth and that's the episode that I released yesterday and it's fantastic And for people who don't know Alison, she grew up on Vancouver Island skeet at Mount Washington, became an Olympic skier skeet in two thousand and two hurt her knee just before two thousand and six Olympics.

But Allison was also involved in a very high profile case because she was sexually abused by her coach.

So Allison comes at this also mother of three, who's entrenched in this right now from so many different angles.

She's been the former pro, she has gone through the safe sports side, and that's where her passion is now to make it safer sporting environment for everybody across this country.

So she's an expert there.

She's a high level coach, she's a strength and conditioning coach, and she's raising three kids, so she's right in it.

I felt it was a great place to start.

But after that you're gonna see John Montgomery, Rick Celabrini, Andrea and Neil Ray Ferraro, who you guys talked about just a couple of segments ago.

People who have been to the highest level but are raising their own kids.

And while they don't have all the answers, and they admit that they're going through this like everybody else, they've seen a lot more than most people.

And I think they can shine a light on a lot of these areas that people might get a little confused about or just not know about Scott.

Let's be honest, the group of parents that takes the worst beating are hockey parents because they dream the NHL.

Your kid's good at eight, nine, ten, you're thinking, hold in a second, he might make the NHL.

What's your best advice to hockey parents?

Because Donnie and I did it, we put kids to hockey.

We've seen a ton.

Well, what's the advice to hockey parents?

Well, I think it would start with relax because people put so much stock into a ten year old hockey game.

You guys, remember how many games you want you in your ten or how many goal you scored?

Probably not, oh no, And I'll bet you Connor Bdard doesn't either, and I'll bet you maclan Celebrini doesn't either.

So at the time it feels like your world.

And it's because people are spending so much time in their car and getting to practices and extra development sessions and they want their kid to succeed, but they lose sight of what the real goal here is, which is all of the great things that ninety nine percent of us got from sports because we didn't make it to that highest level, but we've used in our lives, and that's what you're really trying to get out of sport, and you're trying to get a healthy lifestyle and an activity level later in your life that is going to help you be mentally healthy as well.

So those are the things I think people realize when they put their kids in sport at the beginning.

But as soon as competition's involved, and as soon as select teams come up, everybody gets thrown into the blender.

And this is something Ray and I talked about.

He's going to be in the fifth episode.

The words elite and high performance get thrown around all the time, and they get overused, and I think it's a detriment actually, especially at the younger levels, because people get caught up in this.

That was my next question.

I just ran into a parent last week.

My daughter plays high level soccer.

That the REP.

You know, the kids in house don't have many issues.

There are still some psychos in house, but REP is where you have the most issues.

But the high level elite, my kid's elite.

He plays high level.

You can't get away from that squad.

You can try, but you can't well.

And again, you have to keep it in perspective and That's why I wanted to put this resource out there, Rick, because you're right, it gets thrown around and people look at it as a badge of honor, and in some cases it's people living a little bit vicariously through their kids.

They want it so bad because there's that emotional connection with your child.

You want your child to succeed at whatever he or she does.

But it's redefining what success means at some point when people start going down that I'll use it here, high performance pathway that gets thrown out there very early, I think too young in most cases, quite frankly.

But when they start going down that path, they start thinking what might be next.

But I think they forget sometimes to ask their kids what they actually want.

Rick, Yeah, I do big time when you ask most kids.

And Jumpstart which is a big supporter of this, and I'm a big supporter of them as well, because I think they provide so many great programs across this country at a time when kids can't access sport because of cost or time.

They've done the data and when it comes back when you ask kids, the number one answer that comes back why they play sports is it's fun.

And number two is because they want to hang out with their friends, meet new friends.

Number three is, yeah, I want to improve my skills, but you don't hear.

I want to get a scholarship.

You don't hear I want to make it to the NHL.

That might be a dream somewhere, and you should dream.

All kids should dream.

But people lose sight of the fact that these kids want to have fun first and foremost.

Scott, you mentioned pressure, and things are different from when you grew up, when I grew up, when Rick grew up.

And that's that.

You mentioned clinics and extra sessions of things like they cost a lot of money.

And oftentimes you'll get emails.

You'll get letters telling how telling you how great your kid is, and we've been watching them and we'd like them to attend this camp.

And well, by the way, it costs four or five hundred dollars, but your kid is pretty good.

You want to put him in this.

You don't want him to fall behind.

Maybe he's got to play hockey in the summer instead of baseball or lacrosse.

How do you navigate this world versus what was happening, say, twenty thirty forty years ago.

Well, I don't think there's any one answer that fits any one family or one kid, because there is going to be that exception where hey, this is the only thing my child wants to do, so we're gonna let him or her do that.

So I think that you have to allow for that.

But in most cases, I think people need to realize that their kids probably aren't going to fall behind.

They're not.

They see the kid down the block or the friend group doing something and that's their perception or someone tells them that.

But you guys know this, in most cases, the players who are going to rise, the athletes who are going to rise to that at the end, they're going to get there no matter which pathway they go on.

Yeah, you know, we can go through one hundred stories, one hundred stories of the Andre de Grasses of the world.

Didn't sprint until he was seventeen years old.

Next thing you know, he's winning metal.

Now.

He's an extreme outlier, but not being in a track club in high performance environment from the age of nine didn't seem to hurt him too much.

He did just fine, you know.

Rick Celebrini.

In the third episode, he references the sedines, which everybody here will be familiar with they played high level soccer till they were seventeen eighteen years old.

I think that's helped them pretty much.

You know.

They they found a way to make it work.

And I think people have to keep that in mind.

And if you look at just long term athlete development, if we want to even look at it that way, the data all points to multi sport.

It really does less burnout, less injury as well.

I think that's another thing people.

Don't less robotch less robotch, you know exactly.

Hey Rick mentioned this again, not Rick doliwill Rick Slibrini mentioned this.

He said one of the things he had a coach tell him a bunch of years ago was that sometimes if you look into a kid's eyes when he's at that sixteen seventeen eight year old level, a kid who you thought was really good, and you see dead eyes, you know it's over.

Yeah, because they are just there because it's part of what they think they're supposed to do.

As opposed to that love for the game and that passion that all of us have grown up with.

And it may not have taken us to those athletic heights, but we never really lost that and that love of sport you lose that.

I'm sorry.

It's over.

Better Sports Parents.

Where is it available?

Scott, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, those are the major platforms.

Of course, they'll be on some of the smaller podcast platforms as well, but you can find it there.

It's a video and audio podcast.

If you want to listen to it, of course, just use your regular podcast player, but YouTube or Spotify the places you can check out the video as well.

Two young daughters very quickly, y have, Scott, what are you like as a as a minor sports Matah?

I think I'm pretty good.

But again, guys, this is why design this podcast, because I've learned stuff all the time and try to employ it with my own kids.

You know, I'll give people one quick tip, like, when's the last time you asked your son or daughter why they like the sport they're playing?

Yeah, you might.

You might not even know.

I didn't do until six months ago with my oldest daughter, and I asked her and she told me and it helped me frame how I watch her play.

Better Sports Parents Scott, Uh, I mean I'd love to go on about the Canucks an alliance.

We're out of time here.

Thanks so much for doing this.

My friend we'll get you back, guys.

I really appreciate it.

We'll talk soon, you bet.

Scott Rintel.

It's called Better Sports Parents.

It made its debut on Tuesday.

The best house for us.

Best thing parents can do, especially in hockey, is gool.

Look at the bantam draft, Donnie.

How many undrafted kids make the Western League?

How many undrafted guys make the NHL after not going in the draft.

It's a marathon, not a spring.

You don't have to be good in Adam and Bewie and Banam.

You gotta be good when it counts at sixteen, seventeenth, eighteen nineteen.

Well, I think in Scott touched on this, how do you measure success?

And for me, measuring success looking back now or I'm no present day because my kid made so many friends, had learned to deal with pressure, lean, learned to deal with authority, learned to deal with winning and losing, and made friends for life.

And to me, that's that realistically, that's success.

In memories and they learn life skills, teammate character, all that stuff in team sports.

The other thing to Scott mentioned as well is do you remember this goal or that goal or this game?

You know the kids remember the hotel they stayed at.

It does in squam it shit and a fun tournament they had, and the fun they had in the hallway.

That's that's the sort of thing they remember.

Okay, let's take a break and then we'll deal with the pole question and talk about that.

Hopefully that canucks tournament with the Krack and prospects tournament with the Crack and on the weekend, Donny Dolly the team.

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Get her up the wadling dog poll question and it involves Quinn Hughes and his future Ryan get her up.

Right, there you go.

What's more likely to happen with the Hughes brothers, Jack and Luke come to Vancouver or Quinn goes to New Jersey?

Sixty percent?

Quinn goes to New Jersey.

It's hopping and bopping over eight hundred votes.

Eight hundred votes already.

Jack Hughes saying something to the effect I'm paraphrasing yesterday down in Las Vegas said yeah, I'd like to play with his brother Quinn a one day.

Quinn today down in Vegas, in a conversation with Pierre and Lebron, saying what I think a lot of people thought when they heard Jack's comments yesterday, that yeah, he Jack said that he'd.

Like to play with his brother.

What else is he gonna say one day in a perfect world, he'd like to play with his older brother.

And whether or not that happens again, maybe people are making maybe we're making too big of a deal of it, But I think it's it's food for thought up here in Vancouver because everybody's so worried about Quinn Hughes leaving, So maybe maybe it's it's it's a bigger deal up here than anywhere else in Vancouver I'm talking about.

But I think what Jack had to say is normal.

Like it It's totally understandable.

And if you're the parents in the family, you've probably talked about it.

And he's got two years left on his deal in Vancouver, DoD The Canucks can re signed Quinn on July first.

This July first coming up, so we'll see what happens July first.

Meanwhile, the Canucks Prospects Showcase roster was revealed.

What a day or two ago.

The Canucks will play Seattle's the Krakens Prospects Saturday in Everett Sunday in Seattle as part of this prospect well that is the Prospects Showcase, and they revealed the roster.

It includes Jonathan Lecker, Mackie and Bryden coots Hey his old stopping grounds he's down in there in Seattle, the Seattle area first round pick in twenty twenty five, Tom Vlander, Elias Petterson, the defenceman draftsoff is there who was good for Abatsford last year.

Medvedev, the second round goaltender, the goaltender picked in the second round in twenty twenty five.

S Mino is there as well.

Rick.

I'm not sure what stands out for you, but I know a lot of people are wondering, well, why would you bother having Leku, Mackie and Peterson in this lineup, Especially when it comes to Elias Peterson.

He proved himself at the NHL level last year?

Why should he be here.

I've got a little theory on this, but you go ahead.

Well, one of the.

Reasons and there's two undrafted Vancouver Giants there as well, undrafted not properly the Canucks.

So I think the Canucks and the Giants are working together to have a better partnership, which is always good, But there's two undrafted giants there.

One of the problems here, don is why you see guys like Aaron Mackie is because the Vancouver Canucks have traded either the first or second round draft pick in five in the last six years.

This past summer was the first time in six years the Canucks used their first and the second pick.

Do you know the twenty twenty four dropt The Canucks traded the first, second, and third that the guy they took up, Bounstrom, they traded him to Pittsburgh.

So Donnie, no picks until the fourth round.

Fernstrom, Yeah, Fernstrom, that's it.

But this is why, this is why, Donnie, that you are seeing the Lakara makis, because they don't they keep trading draft picks.

That's why this roster looks the way it does.

Well, I'm gonna go another way here, and I understand what you're saying, but one of my takes is that a lot of people are wondering, Oh, what's what's the point of having these guys play, especially when it comes to Peterson.

It was so impressive.

I like the fact they got them playing because you don't want these players to get I'm not saying this is gonna happen, but things like this have happened in the past.

Elias Petterson had some success last year.

You don't want it to go to his head.

Okay, look, I don't know much about his character, about his personal killing great kid, but I like that they've got him here.

You know what, You're not there yet, You're not you know, your development isn't done yet.

You still have some proving to do even though you were so good at the NHL level, we're throwing you on into this roster.

And to some extent, although he hasn't at the success at the NHL level in my opinion that Petterson has with Lecer mackew as well.

I like that those players are there.

Yeah, and the Coots and Medvedev, those and there new to the organization.

The big one for me, guys is going to be Tom Hollander.

And Tom needs to go to this in Seattle, Donnie, and dominate and be in eleventh overall, right shot defenseman?

Can he make the third pair for the Canucks this year?

Out of all these guys, the guy I got my eye on is Tom Hollander.

And let's see how he does this weekend.

Yeah.

And here you are ripping into that twenty twenty four draft, and yet part of it was the great defenseman from Port Moody, Parker Alt he's going to be.

He's a great kid.

You coached him that he's going to be on this defense down there in Washington.

I love the kid.

I'm telling you, when you trade, when you trade your first three picks, don it's not good because the odds of a national Hockey League player drop considerably after.

Each sound like a rebuild guy.

Wow, so you know what?

You know why they traded the first two picks for who is the door off?

And Lendhole?

And where are they today in Boston?

Although you have a hard time criticizing those picks because they had that success in the twenty twenty four players and.

They take Ferns from and he's great.

He's one of the Swedish's top players at their junior camp.

Okay, they traded them.

You have some business.

Oh yeah, that's right.

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I'm very aware of that.

The fact it's.

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I remember getting cards, kid, Yeah, I mean, because the initial craze is probably what.

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Just quickly, by the way, we got a photo from Brett from Prince George.

He played with their golf course recently.

He checked it off his bucket list, him and some family golfing at with their golf club.

He had a great time.

There you go.

You know, I said it before, I'll say it again.

I can't imagine that course being improved.

What a layout?

Digging up some like doing that kind of digging that would be therapy peutic.

I feel like, why don't you go up there and out?

How about grab the digger and get going speaking the digger, Yeah, is that what it's called?

Back ho bulldozer.

Speaking closer doesn't dig speaking bulldozers, it paves.

Did you find that Jimmy Fallon thing yet?

By the way, I'm working on okay, maybe i'll show that tomorrow.

Speaking up there, Friday and Prince George, this is crazy, right, Prince George on a yes, you worked up north on a busy street, Local resident Casper Lincoln seen driving his roommate's daughter's pink barbie jeep.

His destination a gas station that sells what he was looking for, a slurpee.

As he drove the child size battery powered toy vehicle down the street, RCMP officers spotted Lincoln pulled him over.

He was arrested for prohibited driving, leading to an impaired driving investigation.

He provided two breath samples that were both over the legal limit, shocking.

He was issued a ninety day driving ban.

He says RCMP saw the humor in the situation.

He also added that while he had been drinking the night before, he had not and yet he still blew over the limit.

He had not consumed any alcohol that day.

That's what he said about the ride and the decision to take to take that ride, but he was he on the sidewalk.

He was on the sidewalk for part of it, but he did veer into traffic, into traffic.

Yeah, okay, that's not the problem.

Yeah, because sit in the middle of the road, like they're gonna start busting kids for this, Like but if he guess if you're in it looks like he's yelling at people from being upset at him here.

So he's had a few beers.

Not only do you get you get drunk driving charge driving this thing, Like what's the top speed?

Twenty maybe not.

Even twenty because of his weight, yeah, exactly, because of his weight.

Yeah, the speed is poor.

Yeah, I'm not joking.

Drinking and driving like a guy that I would want to have a party with.

I mean, now, you're a legend, you know, all all the boys exactly, he is a legend.

Yeah, he's gonna I mean, okay, I don't know about the you know, what's gonna go on.

His record, but yeah, yeah, but the rest of it, man, anything for a good laugh.

Yeah, okay, you got birthdays, I got birthdays, a lot of people loving you doing, people saying that Donnie should do it.

There's a round no, no, you're no, nope, Okay, we got give me the music, right, you got to say how many you have?

Five birthdays?

And what's the line set at?

I'm not doing the lines.

You gotta give me the lines.

I'm not.

I'm not a phenomena.

You're doing five five five?

What about a fake sponsor?

Do you have one of those?

I'll work on a fake sponsor.

Okay, let me, yeah, write down you know what I might be good at that fake sponsor, fake sponsor.

Okay, I'll get that.

It's gotta be PG.

Okay, all right, music, Okay.

This guy's turning forty two a Canadian who went in the second round, forty fourth overall in the two thousand and two Major League Baseball Draft.

Justin Morno.

Nope, went in the fourth round, forty fourth overall two thousand and two mL Who I'm not.

I'm giving you clues.

I'm trying to make them hard.

Six time All Star, seven time tip O'Neill Award winner Joey Votto got it, eh see?

But you me the Reds, you know, like, yeah, I know.

If I said red got it right away, that's true and you should have got the tip of nel tip.

Anyways, why okay, this guy's turning.

This guy's turning thirty seven today.

Move on.

I watched this player at the two thousand and six Memorial Cup in Monkedon, playing for the Peterborough Peach.

I was there in Moncton.

Was he drafted this it's gave you the club Peterborough, Peterborough Peach.

Yeah, two thousand and six Memorial Cups?

Then was he drafted or what?

It's a tip?

It's it shouldn't help you?

Okay?

One of four brothers who played pro hockey Stall, Yes, not, that's not the first.

Mark Eric Johnny played the last thirteen years in Carolina.

Jordan Jordan Sta.

She retired, Yeah, he's retired.

No, he's going back, he's going Originally drafted by Pittsburgh.

Donny, He's yeah.

He won a Cup with Pittsburgh in two thousand and nine.

Okay, Uh, the clue was you saw him at the Memorial I saw that to the Memorial Cup.

Peterborough should have been Peterborough.

Really, I haven't heard that story before.

How how is it a clue?

I went to the Giants Memorial Cup, me and Moji.

I had the room with moj My eyes are still not recovered, but listen Memorial Cup, Peterborough.

He doesn't use pajamas.

Okay.

This person turning twenty seven today.

Twenty seven year old Canadian is dating baseball player Ricky Castro.

Uh?

What she is dating baseball player Ricky Castro?

How old is she?

Twenty seven twenty seven today.

Named the Canadian Press Female Athlete for twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

Brooke Kenderson got it.

Who's Ricky Castro?

He's a baseball player Minnesota Twins.

Is he?

Yeah?

Okay?

Anyways, who you just heard of when you started looking into the You could have said I had to google with che Castro.

You could have said last name, just stop, this is good.

I'm doing good man.

This player is turned sixty three today.

This player, this player is still playing.

No.

Sixty two.

He had a perfect game at the age of forty in two thousand and four.

No the Ryan, Nope?

What he went perfect game at the age of forty in two thousand and four.

Pitcher for what team?

I'm not telling you because then you're gonna know.

Tallest player major League Ny Johnson, Randy Johnson.

See, I.

I gotta make your work for it.

I can't give it to you.

This isn't Kindergarten.

I gotta make your work for it.

This athlete is not it noon.

By the way, this athlete is no longer with us.

They named the drink after him.

Okay, that's it.

Got great drink by the way, Arnold Palmers, Okay, I'm gonna go that.

No, Matt, are you kidding?

But n half and a half?

No, yeah, ice team lemonade half and a half.

Yeah, that's a.

Gimme, that's a tap in.

But this is what happened, Arnold was you know, he looked in the fridge one day, maybe they'd had a few, I'm not sure.

And there's some iced tea there, some lemonade, not enough to make a drink for Rather, I'll mix them together.

That's how it happened.

Apparently, you know, there was a thirty for thirty short about that.

It apparently was something along those lines.

But his wife made it for him, like she put the combination.

Still creative, an invention, but to create drink iced tea already has lemon and.

Nobody you have to remember American iced tea isn't Sweden.

That's a good point.

Okay, So it would have been down it's true.

I forgot.

I forgot.

It's a very good point.

You know what drink I also tried for the first time of the summer.

Is Roy Rogers.

So good, very good.

Yeah, like cherry grenade.

Okay, cherry grenadine and coke.

Have you watched the latest Quarterback?

Yeah, it's Chris's favorite.

That's why I tried it.

Yeah, that's why I'm sitting.

I look it up and I'm thinking, there's gotta be more to it.

No, I know it was cherry cola or cola.

You know it's regular like pepsi or coke, like regular PEPs grenadine.

Yes, that essentially becomes a cherry coke, which is my favorite.

But yeah, when Kirk kept mentioning it, I looked it up, I was like, what is in this drink?

And so boom.

But he he is such a nerd.

He makes it.

Oh, it makes that show.

He's very straight.

Yeah, yeah, you see it?

No, is it just me coming up?

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So whiskey and you.

Wanna show and your tea?

What's all this crazy question to ask?

This is the craziest.

Rock and roll rick.

Is it just me?

All right?

Here we go?

Stop the Hughes brothers talk the board media just creating drama.

Get over it.

Move on to something else that's relevant.

That's Donde from Nanaimo.

Don die always comes in hot.

This is Donde's first hot coming in this year.

Right there, he's blaming.

Us and cherry.

Anyways, don Dee listen to me.

We didn't start this.

You could have said first hot take, first hot take.

There you go.

But Don Dee's got hot takes.

But we didn't start this.

Jack Hughes started it yesterday, Jim Rutherford started last year, Quinn Hughes started it this morning.

We had nothing to do with that to it.

Yeah, are you done?

Yeah, we're not in our rhythm yet.

Here we go.

Is it just me?

But this from Jeeves and Surrey is just me?

But instead of pulling the goalie and adding an extra skater in hockey.

Are team's allowed to pull a skater and add an extra goalie?

Yeah?

Interesting, Well maybe it could be like a defensive strategy if you're if you're up by a goal.

Yeah right, Hey, nobody's thought of it.

Scotty Bowman's on the show tomorrow.

Scotty Goman ask him if he ever thought that of that?

We should ask Scotty.

That would be outrageous.

Scotty might hang up quite quickly or give a forty minute answer.

One of the two things, one of the two?

Uh, this just and I called it last year, I'm calling it this year.

The Canucks are not going to make the playoffs.

Quinn, he was gonna leave Garth in Ladner.

He sounds like he should host this show.

Another hot take from Garth and Ladder saying they're not going to make the playoffs and they're gonna lose quin Quinch gone.

Okay, Dwight, is it just me?

But here's the weirdest drink combo ever, milk and PEPSI.

Fans of Laverne and Shirley will know what I'm talking about.

And that's I know I shouldn't have mentioned that.

And that's from Dwight.

And when I was a kid, and we talked earlier about about an w last year, last yesterday's show, probably last year.

But there used to be a drink called the Cooler root beer and milk, so pepsi and milk would be very similar.

I would think, well, some people would do cream soda and milk.

There you go.

Lavernon shirty would come on right after having every Tuesday eight o'clock, Hey, Happy Days, followed by la Vernon shirty best one.

Speaking of drinks, where did lavern and Shirley work at a beer.

Plant in Milwaukee?

Yeah, you could have said anything in the ag beer players have to evacuate.

They and their intro to their show was Smazzo Bingo.

Got anything?

Uh?

Caprosov has cracked one hundred points only once, same amount as eleven six Connor and Abbey.

Look at look at Connor and calling Peterson eleven six?

This is this what you started people calling them?

I've got company, Justin andes fan Is it just me?

But Ryan, it's not a digger, it's an excavator.

Yeah, I excavators.

Yeah.

Because there's a show.

My kid watches Blippy and they go and he does a big song all about excavators, so I should actually know that's.

What it's called.

Yeah, it's a takeoff of the Lavern and Shirley theme.

What else.

Here's a brother duel from up north in British Columbia, the Gasoff brothers from Quinnell Bradon Vancouver, Bob and Saint Louis kenn of Gary Gasov for no slouches playing their game in the old Western w I h L and the b c h L.

Brad played a couple of years with his brother Ken and Gary.

They're tough, really tough, the brothers Martin and north Burnaby.

Is it just me?

But Wayne Gretzky was a multi sport child.

He played soccer, lacrosse, hockey, and ran cross country.

He turned out pretty good.

Martin might remember this.

There is a video remember the Superstars competition when ABC I can't remember the network exactly would bring together several athletes from other sports and they'd go up against each other, running, lifting weights, things like that.

Superstars I believe, Yeah, I remember I watched that.

I watched that, did you?

Right after Liver?

Right after Liver?

And that.

There is a great video of Wayne Gretzky in one hundred yard Dash destroying Sugar, Ray Leonard and Bjorn Borg and he looks really good.

And and by the way, uh, he loved baseball as well.

That wasn't mentioned by Martin.

And I know he was a very good lacrosse player as well.

Sugar rate should have won that boxers are I'm not sure the ages they were at at the time, Sugar, but it's pretty bias forum and I don't know what time was, but it was really really impressive.

It's on YouTube, Sugar Radio.

We're at a time right fat Okay, let's let's let's.

Take a break.

He didn't have an inch of fat on Okay, we got it, we especially when he was boxing his prime.

Yeah, moving on break.

We'll wrap up the show and the poll question next, Donnie delay the team, ont you Hella was in that race with Gretzky as well.

Wadling Dog poll question Dog poll Rick, all right.

Ryan, get her up.

The waddling dog poll question here.

It is what's more likely to happen with the Hughes brothers, Jack and Luke come back or come to Vancouver or Quinn goes to New Jersey.

Fifty nine percent say Quinn goes to New Jersey.

Almost a thousand votes.

Hopping a bopping on a Wednesday morning.

You've got a backlog of pictures.

We got a ton of pictures.

Ryan.

Where we're going?

First of all, this is a happy belated birthday?

Yeah, okay, uh look at this.

Our uncle is a huge fan.

It's an understatement.

Listens to the podcast.

Is absolutely a huge Donny and Dolly fan.

This is from Heather and absolutely look at this, Lachlan and Finley.

Look at that.

What a beautiful, beautiful Lachlan.

That's what I said.

Anyways, Uh, this is from Heather.

Did you see who the uncle?

His name?

The uncle's name's not in there.

Andrew Andrew, Yeah, uncle Andrew Hills calling him uncle Uncle Andrew Hill, huge fan.

In front of the Empress.

Yes, right now, beautiful, you go, beautiful.

Just a beautiful photo, beautiful family photo right there.

So nice and.

Birthday, happy birthday.

Moving on, yeah, oh okay, where we're going now?

Uh?

This is we're going to Parksville, right, Parksville.

Oh, I love I love this, I love it.

Look at this.

Uh, rich in Parksville with my good pal Dean fishing and beautiful waters near Parksville this summer.

Our Donnie and Dolly.

Hat always brings us good luck, love the show.

That is a mustache, man, I'm telling you all.

But Rich always texts us he's got the Lanny McDonald mustache, not Tom Selleck, Lanny McDonald.

And I'll tell you this much.

What a beautiful photo, looking great, guys.

Thanks and Rich just love Rich.

He always sends us photos when he's going fishing.

Some serious fish they caught there.

Yeah, that's a big fish.

How many pounds that fish?

How many pounds?

On Donnie, it's not really many pounds the mustache?

Ryan.

One more, let's sneaking one more?

You got?

Okay, which are we doing?

Which we are we doing?

This?

Is that you do it?

Right?

Yeah?

Unfortunately we don't have a name.

O good, I remember this name?

Back back, Welcome back, Fellas and Nina Nina again.

As promised, my d and d Hat traveled the world with me to fill as.

We took a side trip to Bora k a top five rated resort.

In the world.

There you go.

I don't know his name though.

Unfortunately I don't have his name.

He didn't sign it.

He didn't sign it.

Hopefully he's listening or watching now and he can give us his name.

Yeah, thank you, sir.

Beautiful beautiful photo, beautiful photo.

Okay, big show tomorrow.

We got Scottie Bowman as I mentioned earlier, and farhead and far ahead well yeah uh and maybe we'll get that Jimmy Fallon video and the Gretzky video as well the one hundred yard dash.

Okay dash you good?

Oh yeah, I'll be half of Nita, Ryan, Derek Rick, everybody here at Oh Boy check.

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