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It is time to talk parenthood and what I thought Mark was a fantastic episode.

Oh my god, we disagree.

Get out of here.

First of all, great intro, really really really proud of you for that geniusness.

Stay tuned till the end because I have an amazing menopause minute.

This was not my favorite.

Wow, this is my best one yet that I've been here for.

Oh my gosh, I am stunned by that.

Let's start with Haley and Alex and that whole drama.

I love that she answers her cool little pink cell phone from twelve.

First, what am I doing?

We need to do a synopsis?

Oh you know, I stick to the fundamentals.

People, Season two, episode thirteen.

First of all, I love them.

Just anyone listening, just enjoy, Just sit back and enjoy the messy ride we're on.

It's messy.

Opening night, air Day, January eighteenth, twenty eleven.

Christine and Adam catch Hattie sneaking around with Alex and forbid her from seeing him anymore.

Sarah faces a new challenge when Drew Telser he needs to sell five hundred dollars with a wrapping paper.

Meanwhile, Crosby and Jasmine have to deal with Jabbar's bad case of stage fright right before the school play.

And that's what made me think of it is because their cell phone was so twenty eleven.

That's why I had to go back and read the synopsis.

But I love the opening.

First of all, that's a fantastic scene, the confrontation on the front lawn.

There he is, there she is.

Yes, that was that.

Yes, the episode started off.

The parents coming bursting through the front door.

Well, first of all, she's like waiting for them to leave, and then they.

Leave, Max forgot.

They come back, and you know, she tries to run out and it's just like ooh, and then and sort of the drama of it, and then Michael B.

Jordan's reaction like.

You're unbelievable, and then he walked off.

But they're all on top of each other.

It's a classic Parenthood kind of improv scene.

Yeah.

No, that was really good.

Good, Yeah, I was in I have some flags on the rappet.

We'll get to that.

So then Haley goes to Camille.

Well, and you teed me up to not like the play.

But I was so delighted by the plan.

But we'll get to that too.

But so Hattie goes to Camille, has a moment that I like, I have to go to school.

And the grandma did the right thing.

You know.

Look, I think Christina tends to be a little not so nice to Camille, typical mother in law daughter in law situation.

But Christina chill out.

Well and then chilling out she and Adam go home and take the door offer bedroom.

That was so aggressive and also like, like you can tell by their faces that like, do we even believe what.

We're doing here?

Well, and what's that solving?

Right?

We've dug a hole and now we're just going to keep digging.

Right, She didn't just like what right?

I'm not totally sold on their parenting.

But so then the Christina and Camille confrontation.

Christina gets all mad that Hattie confided in her, which I understand there's jealousy there that Hattie went to someone else.

Now, to me, the peak of the show the peak of the shows that I've been watching.

The scene with Alex and Adam in Adam's office that was as good as it gets.

A phenomenal scene, two masters of their craft at the height of their abilities going at it.

The sheer brilliance of Michael B.

Jordan and Peter Crawse in that scene blew me away.

First of all.

I know.

And here's why I know, because it made me google what is Peter Krause working on?

Because I'm so upset that he was killed off nine one one.

I find it to be like an insane move, like almost of the fact that I'm like, I don't buy it, like that the director, creator whatever he is, is like, it was a choice.

We wanted to kill off a major character.

Wait, you wanted to kill off your best character, like and Peter Krausa.

They all say like, no, Peter didn't want to leave.

But I'm like, it's so crazy they did that.

I digress.

So I was like, what's he working?

I need him to have a new show because he's, oh my god, nothing right now, He's still an executive producer of nine to one one, But my thing is he's They're so good and Michael Beach Jordan is just like he's so good in this show.

But also the character is so like confident despite the like challenges he had that you really are like you respect him, and you're like, why don't you get that Adam Braverman, like, why don't you get that this guy is so much better than the ex boyfriend that you let her date that slept with the.

Cousin agreed, Now, I get it, my daughter, he's older, private apartment, I get all that stuff.

But he knows he's messed up.

But just tell her it's not.

You can't see this totally classy, great guy that even Camille fully vouched for right who she and she knows him have.

I'm not mad at parenting parenthood, but have a have a situation that's tenable.

Right Just telling your kid never drink is just going to make your kids sneak out and drink.

And you know, behind the wherever if you say to your kid, hey, we have concerns, here's why, and as a result, we trust you.

But you know you're ABC whatever it is.

That's also a genius of this show.

You would think that after Adam talks to Alex, he would go to her and say go to you know, maybe go to what Christina and say, you know what, we should probably reland on this.

But no, he's sticking to his guns.

Can we had that talk with Christina?

You think Christina'd be like, yeah, maybe he is okay, But no, they got to stick to their guns.

Because they're parenting out of fear instead of trusting their kid, who's such a good kid.

But also, it's hard to admit you're wrong when you're a parent.

That is such a hard thing.

But is it?

Think it is?

Though it is and I I came around on that and I'm pretty good at it now.

But I think that's what Christina going through.

What are we going to do now?

We're even to each other that.

Yeah, And it's like being wrong, being wrong is okay, Like if I'm going to teach you a lesson of the day because I'm so wise, like it's okay to be wrong.

I would be so happy for them to be right.

Yes, do you know what I'm saying?

Like where they go, hey, we we didn't get this one right because we're first time parents too, that's it, do you know what I mean?

This is the first time they've ever had a sixteen year old whatever she is, yeah, sixteen because she was learning to drive and fix it.

I find Sarah Braverman to be better, not that as a parent to be like, oh, I got it wrong, let me get it right.

I got it wrong with men with the singing, you know, like, first of all, where, by the way, where was Julia?

Was Julia even in this episode?

Yeah?

Not much.

I don't remember seeing her one time.

Maybe one time she went into the sure the play and maybe she went into one rehearsal or something.

I don't even remember.

No, not enough Julia for me.

After weeks and months of this play being an absolute mess, it is now the most elaborate, complicated school play in history.

They have props, they have music, they have costumes, they have special effects.

There's running water on the stage.

I mean, it's insane in their production value.

Well, not a great play.

I'm like, is that good?

I don't really get it.

I don't get it, like she Marilyn, I guess it's the history of California something yeah, and jabbar and so like, okay, sorry to well.

But the one thing I do like is that Crosby is expressing himself quite clearly as to why he wants Jabbar to try again, and Jasmine is also expressing herself clearly she's not wrong, like, hey, he's in kindergarten, Like do we have to push him on this one?

That's sort of one of those parenting situations where you're like, you're both right.

Probably Crosby's like a little bit more right, you know, like, Okay, I get it.

We don't need to push our kids all the time.

And Zeke saying him, come on, now, what are you doing.

You're you're the boss too, and then Crosby saying it's a partnership and Zeke saying, god, that sounds dreadful.

I thought that was such a great lie.

Speak.

That's been kind of awesome in like the last three or four episodes butting in as a parent and I'm like, I'm here for it, Like I'm here for it.

Also, the thing that I did love about this episode was Sydney's negota.

Yes, that was great.

I'm like that little kid, yeah, her mom, and it's kind of awesome.

And Joel's like, no, Sydney, we're not doing that, and yeah, Shepherd's like I'll play, I'll play.

Yeah.

That was cute.

And also that made me not feel bad for her, So I thought it was like effective, Like I think I would have had sort of oh no, you just took her part away.

But in this case, I didn't have to feel bad and I could be happy for Jabbar because it was cool with it.

Another example, really into the show, they've taken the time to develop the character of Sydney that she's wants to be on stage.

She wants to spotlight.

As soon as you borrow out, she's right in there and she's just like her mom with the negotiation.

How many shows have the time to develop.

A kid correct And she's so like aasure doing business with you, Like, you don't have to feel bad like that, this kindergartener got her heart taken away.

You're like, I'm fine, it's fine, All is fine, and yea Jabar.

Although here's the thing I don't totally like.

Of all the things I remember in the episode, the play is sort of like was that the end?

I don't really remember.

It, just like I thought this was so great.

They're walking back to the car after the play and Drew didn't like the play very much, and Sarah calls him al Roker for his bad review, and they often be like Al Roker's not a movie he's not a critic, He's a weather man.

Like was that in the script?

Or I think they're met Leonard Malton or Roger Ebert or Jans's skill.

Wait, I missed so completely.

I feel like I don't know.

Was I falling asleep?

What happened to me?

I feel like I missed the very end.

Of the very casual conversation, like as they're walking across the parking lot, it seemed very off the cuff to me, and maybe it was I don't know, and that was no, And then and then they get back to the car and I don't I don't remember.

Right something see episode was?

I know you love it?

But is it at that point that they find out that Zeke bought all the wrapping paper?

I think, maybe, yes, so much.

Sorry you are, and he gives that wink.

But here's my flaw on that.

But under their money troubles, Zeke and Camille, remember they had the building he bought, and you know ed Julia's ex boyfriend, the guy from Scandal, was like gonna buy it, and like all of a sudden, that just went away.

Always gonna spend on your grandkids.

Correct, but five hundred bucks for all the wrapping paper, I get it, But like, are we just over their money problems?

It seems like that storyline has vanished and I'm fine with it.

I didn't need it.

And it was like annoying.

Do you notice how they work in a lot uh the time?

You know, they're very clear that this was a recession in America, and they do that a bunch with the shoe, the whole thing.

It's like very clear, like and maybe because that was such a big thing, then it's the one thing watching back though that you're like, we're there.

Yeah, they wanted very badly to be every family, just a random every family.

Is that recession from the like when the housing crisis happened with all those short sales or whatever that thing where yeah, where it was like nobody could afford their loans and it's a big old mess.

They were giving they were just handing out loans.

You want a loan, you got loan.

You want alone, you don't have any money to put down the mine, It's totally fine.

Give a dollar, just put give a dollar.

Like we got one of those We got one of those loans.

You we did.

I wish i'd nothing down.

Yeah, you know, I'm a thirty year fixed lady.

I am now a thirty years I always was, always, always was, always will be thirty year fixed.

I am not trying to gamble with a home loan.

No agreed.

Let me tell you this, people, I can never move because somehow I got a three percent loan.

Two we refined that in the pandemic, we got two.

We're stuck here for the rest of our lives.

Just live here forever because I cannot move.

I cannot afford seven percent.

Correct, So I'm just like, Hope, I like this place, but I go all right, Well, can't move, so better put money into it.

Like if something doesn't you know, isn't quite.

Right, that's it.

I will die here.

I told me, he said, just take my dead body out of there.

Hope it will be one hundred.

No, I can't move.

Luckily I got one story.

You got one story, or two.

We got two stories.

Oh Grandpa, that's gonna be tough when you're ninety.

Yes, we'll see what happens.

Keep going.

Well.

We kind of gave the ending away to Drew, but you know he wants to buy the wrapper.

The wrapping paper was Here's why I liked it.

Yeah, I love almost said Lorlie, I love a Lauren Graham drew everything.

Yes, but it was just like the wrapping January is funny.

Yeah, I guess it was fine.

It was maybe a little long with the woman that was going to buy the wrapping paper, but she doesn't celebrate, and it was like, you've wasted a lot of your time and their.

Time, and then Adam's mad.

She's trying to sell it at work, and then Zeke's like you.

Right, although every other person was selling their junk of book, I was.

I didn't even know she still worked there.

Yeah, that's weird.

I like the movement.

When Zeke said to Sarah, hey, you're late with your rent and Sarah said, I don't pay rent and he says, really you should pay rent more.

Zeke classic z.

Yeah, he's great.

I missed Billy Baldwin.

I'm not like crazy.

I'm not missing Bill Baldwin.

I'm good, I'm fine.

I'm fine with see.

Poor Alec in the Don't Tell Me Steven Baldwin crashed the rain drover.

Seems like everyone was fine.

They swerved some sort of It didn't seem like dramatic like there was some you know, like Red Herring or something.

Is that the same smoking gun?

Perhaps is a Baldwin moment also a part of the show.

They have the menopause minute and the Baldwin check went on.

I mean the Baldwin moment is like very connected to it as well.

I know we we did get one review of people saying too many tangents, but we got another refuse saying I love them just talking about random craft.

Who do I please?

Left or right?

So I guess I just go in the middle.

But also, this is Amy, this is who Amy is.

If you're in a meeting with her, there's tangents galore.

Yeah, I can't.

I don't live in a straight line.

I go.

Yeah, I got a lot to say about a lot of things.

What storyline have we skipped?

I'm still gonna go with.

This episode is only okay, This episode is only okay.

Let me give the quick menopause minute will really only be one minute because I have another meeting last night went to the Shawn Mendez concert.

Texted you because I didn't know Shawn Mendes was still such a thing.

Let me tell you, Mark, he's a thing.

He's a massive thing, seven thousand people, just massive.

Walking back to the car, got a hurry because now I'm one minute late to the meeting, walking on dirt because it's been muddy and rainy.

Here.

My one leg went down into a little bit of a hole and I thought, WHOA, didn't fall recovered, walked on like no problem, didn't even say out, just went WHOA.

That was weird.

Drove one hour home.

By the time I got home, I thought my leg is sort of really hurt.

By midnight, no camp sleep because the leg is completely messed up.

And I believe this is menopause.

Things that I could have recovered from at twenty, like a champ.

Not so much everybody's asking that, not that I can see, but like also menopause, Like I don't have bone thin thighs anymore.

So No, Black and Blues took some ad built ice in it.

I'll give you an update next week.

Don't let me forget.

Thank you for this episode.

Oh eight point nine.

No, I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give it a eight point nine.

Wow.

May you stay forever.

Braverman's out.

Bring that energy.

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