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Twenty seven fourteen.

The final score here in Foxborough.

Paul Parrello, Mike d So, I'm Quantie Lunas, thank you for sticking with us.

I know it's a little late, but it's gonna be a fun one here because you got a victory.

Yeah, you guys, there we go.

I feel like it was kind of exactly what we thought it was going to be.

Maybe the score was slightly different.

I think I said like twenty four to twenty three six.

Well where we were at Paul the Jets to get two scores.

Instead of field goals, you know, just yeah, I mean, it wasn't I felt like this was going to be a game that the Patriots had control of, but it wasn't never really going to look great, And I think we kind of got a gain that the Patriots were in control of that didn't really look great.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's true.

They had, you know, some moments and they had to come through and some big plays.

You know, the defense did what they do.

They came out and watched to just go right down the field.

But you know, just again, Drake May, my expectations on a Thursday night were not perfection or you know great.

I just thought he did what he had to do.

He made the plays he had to make.

It wasn't, you know, a flawless win by any means, But on a short week, just to get to nine wins, I mean, I think that ensures that this team.

I know that it ensures this team will have a winning record this season.

I know the goals are a lot higher, but when we talked about coming into this year, everyone wants to know what your prediction is.

I think the team just deserves the tip of the cap to reel off eight straight wins after starting one to two on the season, and I don't know if anyone saw that coming in.

You know, credit to the coaching staff, to Drake May.

Great strides made and now I think they really have big things ahead of them, and they deserve to because they played really, really well here and just good complimentary football, didn't let the mistakes bog them down, did enough to pull away and get.

The victory exactly eight in a row.

Like you mentioned, what do you two think says about I mean, we talked about mental stamina, the way they're able to regroup weekly, week by week.

At this point, what does this say to you guys?

As Yeah, they're I mean, they're reproducing.

It's not easy to do.

And I mean, I you know, I know, the last couple of years you realize how hard it is to win in this league, and you know, just now it's completely changed.

I mean again, Paul, we see third and longs get converted.

You know that was a death sentence to the Patriots, seems the last couple of years.

So yeah, the consistency finding ways to do it weekend, week out, not making the critical, big mistakes.

You know, this is this is a real football team now, and I think they showed it again tonight here on a short week.

These games are always weird divisional games, but they did what they had to do.

Yeah, that's pretty much signs it up.

I mean, I I there were a lot of things that if this game weren't a vacuum, that you'd say, okay, and we're going to talk about them over the next you know, you know, whatever hour and a half or so our forty five minutes, someone say hour and a half.

Yeah, yeah, there were there were things that certainly I think Mike Rabel will be able to show the team and uh and go over.

It was not perfect, but your quarterback is pretty much pretty close to perfect right now.

I really like the way he looked in the pocket tonight.

I thought he was really calm in the pocket, quiet with his feet, and had his eyes downfield all night.

So I liked some of the things that he did.

They got to they got some work to do offensively to maximize some of their opportunities.

And defensively, you know that there was some issues tonight defensively.

You know, we'll get into it as we as we break it all down.

But this is kind of what we we had asked for.

Just don't mess around, don't turn the ball over, don't give any free points away, don't make it easy on a on an underdog.

And you know, they checked off all those boxes this game.

In my view, it was never over over until that last fourth down, drop drop pass by the Jets.

But I never really felt this game was in doubt at all ever, even when they went down seven nothing obviously we've seen that a million times before that at this point.

I never I never saw I never thought this game was in doubt.

I mean in terms of like nods and everything.

You know, I'm inundated with people.

You know, Christian, you know I will come and find you.

Chris, Chris with a T I a n making an ai Uh, Polly Paul, that's that's not that's not cool.

There was no nod tonight, per se.

But I never felt like this game was in jeopardy.

Yeah, does that make sense?

It does?

It does?

I think I'm just usually kind of generally on edge, and that's probably because I'm working during it.

You know, you're like, oh God, am I gonna have to blow this up?

And you know the Jets put a.

Couple drives together, because you're right.

I mean, if they if the guy catches the fourth down pass, you know it's you can get a touch again, get a touchdown.

They had three timeouts, they wouldn't even have had to onside kick.

If they didn't want to, they probably would have, but you know, it's twenty seven to twenty one and who knows.

So like, I don't think the game was necessarily over.

I just never felt like the Patriots were threatened.

Certainly not in the second half.

No, no, not after that that first drive down the field and I thought, look, is this gonna be the game?

Kind of we talked about it before.

You'll know it pretty quick if they came out flat.

Turns out they weren't flat.

They were just the same old Patriots defense that allows the first touchdown drive.

That's what that's just what they do.

It definitely is still bugging me though it keeps.

But at the same time turned it around for a bunch of three and outs and you could tell that they were starting to roll and just felt like a matter of time before.

I should think now that we're pretty good on third Downtown.

They were very good on third down tonight.

That's a that's a fair point.

I think that's coming up later in the eventually, not.

In the goods stick around.

All right.

That being said, let's get to the good, the bad, and the injured.

Now it's time for the good, good, the bad, and the injured.

Ah, you are right guy, all right, it's time.

Let's start with the good not to talk about.

You want to kick it off, ye, I'll kick it off.

I'm gonna I'm gonna put Drake up up there.

I answer, go first, No, I got it.

I just I just continue to be impressed by the kid.

And I mean it's just.

Every week he's making a throw that you're like, oh my god.

I mean that, I mean maybe his best strow of the night was dropped.

I mean Mike Holnton, the one that Matt Collins down the field, that vertical I mean, this is like, you know, it was like sixty to seventy yards in the air.

Just drop him back here.

It is a video, just absolutely uncorked one.

And credit the Jets defensive back there for you know, getting a punch by.

The defensive backs got to get caught, yeah, yeah, to be caught.

Usually those are ones Matt Collins comes down with but we'll give him a pass.

But you know, Drake, it's just looking at some of the chunk plays that's to me, like, let's just highlight those for a minute, because when I said the old Patriots teams in the last couple of years, they get into third and seven or more and it's like, oh, that's over, it's over.

But the big throws that he had, I mean, it's just on third down, seventeen yarder.

Uh, you know to Mac Collins, I'm sorry that was not a third down pass, but you know, just the chunk place that they're able to get.

I thought on that second drive too, I mean, you know, a twenty three yard it Hunter Henry, then a twelve.

Yard at Hunter Henry on third down.

Uh, just continues to pick up new sets of downs when it in the past few years it looks dead, and you know, we're seeing just continued excellence.

He looked really comfortable to me tonight, you know, and I think the overall trajectory of Drake has just been really impressive, where there have been a couple games over the last handful or so where you felt like it's a little sped up, felt like he's maybe getting out of the pocket a little bit.

Tonight, it just felt like he was coom call, cool, calm and collected making all the throws.

And this is you know, what we've seen for the majority of this year with Drake May is just you know, nothing that really seems to rattle him.

He's he's got a really calm presence about him, and he's making delivering throws when he has to deliver them.

So you know, really, just when I look at Drake and how he's playing now, I just have such confidence with the Patriots.

I'm like, you know, that's where Paul I still get nervous.

But I when I watched Jake, I'm like, man, it just seems like a matter of time before he's going to make these plays down the field.

So Drake May, you know, up on the on the good list, and you know what a first eleven games of the season for that kid in the second year just super impressive.

And I thought he was really impressive just with his like I said, how quiet he was, in the pocket, under control with his movements, and obviously you know, the accuracy was there again, so he yeah, absolutely, he was very impressive.

Tonight in that same vein stuff on Digs top of well not the top of the list, but at the top of the list.

Overall over one hundred yards in this one, eleven targets nine for one oh five yards.

Just overall great performance.

And I have to add a little note to this.

We're in the media press box and we find out that Cardi B has had a baby, and in the moment, I'm like, she and labor right now, like this is insane.

Turns out TMZ decided to drop the story.

Well, Cardi B decided to post during the game that they had the baby last week.

So just tying it all together, it was very impressive.

He had a baby last week.

This is probably new to some people.

But of course, you know, having a great game on the field as well.

But I had to tie in the pop culture.

Aspect for everyone.

Yeah, exact graduation.

Congratulations to the Digs and Gardi B.

But he continues to be the guy on reliable in his route running.

Must have been you know, and I didn't watch it every replay, but he was so open tonight.

He must have really run some some good, good routes.

But yeah, I absolutely quiet hundred yard game.

Yeah, but I didn't feel like like it didn't seem like I mean, the longest catch was twenty two yards.

It wasn't like he uh, but I think he had a lot of sort of fifteen to twenty twenty, you know, twenty two yards he was.

Yeah, he was very productive once again.

Yeah, and invaluable.

Uh yeah, you know.

So I obviously I had both of those on my list, but I'm going to go to Will Campbell and Morgan Moses, who I thought both on the edges tonight.

The Jets have nothing defensively, but what they do have is two pretty solid edge rushers and Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson, and I thought both Campbell and Morgan Moses were were excellent and there was very little edge pressure.

I think Johnson had a sack, but it was actually Hunter Henry that he beat on that sack.

It was very little.

I didn't even think pressure.

I mean, there might have been a time or two that those edges got through, but I thought this may have been Will Campbell's best game in pass protection, and I thought Morgan Moses was.

Everybody is good on the other side, so I give again those two edge rushers are pretty good players.

Like the Jets lost a lot on defense, but they still have that edge pressure.

They didn't blitz.

They wanted to do the same thing that Todd Bowles did last week, and to an extent it worked because I kind of kept the score down a little bit.

But those those guys were not a factor.

So Campbell and Moses were on my good list.

Yeah, welcome, we have Drake May, Stefan Diggs and I just credited the tackles on the good list.

What did you guys have?

Diggs?

Henderson of course on that list as well.

We'll get into him second, but.

Okay, I mean I would put Tonga up there.

I think he played decently.

It's it was a weird game.

It's one of those division games.

Yeah, you know, like what's I know you're gonna laugh, You're I know you're gonna laugh at me, Paul.

But the Jets were angling their kickoffs to the right, trying to see if Chisholm would screw up.

He didn't.

He just took the ball up, you know, and and got his nose up field.

And you don't want me to say the things that you say during games, right, you get mad at me when I won't.

I said, you know, he doesn't have a lot of good instincts, uh, you know, to like find gaps.

But like I said, he just got his.

Being serious the good list.

He just got his nose up the field.

That's all he did.

And he didn't screw up.

He came into early.

Do you seriously have anything on the good List other.

Than digs at May and.

Campbell?

Yeah?

I had three times.

Yeah, I mean, oh you weren't.

Yeah.

I don't want answer.

That sound like you're like me, he's got to be on the list because you're scoring three times.

Somebody, somebody has scored the somebody had to score them then, you know when they get that close, not that they did that all the time.

I agree with your fred, you know, and he's certainly.

I think the only I think, I think the only superstar in the game was Drake May.

Some of those plays he made were just MVP caliber.

Diggs was was was consistent and you know, a good outlet for him, and you know, third down he was the guy.

But in terms of like, you know, really playmaking, and it was Drake May.

It was Drake May.

I agree.

I put him right up at the top.

And part of me, for some reason just keeps waiting for like, oh, maybe he's going to have a bad game, or maybe we're going to see a little bit of the inconsistency we saw last year when he was a rookie, and it just doesn't happen.

I mean, he hasn't been last week.

That's like a couple of plays, a little blip, and then he bounces back and it's just, uh, it's just so fun to watch.

I mean, the kid is just exciting every week.

It's you know, when I was coming in today, I was like, all right, another drink game, Let's see what this kid's got.

I mean, it's just you feel the moment.

I mean, to me, the most amazing play he had was the one where he went to the sideline and he was like an inch from going out, but he kept his eyes downfield.

A lot of players would just be like, all right, I'm going to go out and gets that ball downfield.

It ended up being on a twenty three yard pass or something like that.

I forget what it was, but just keeping those eyes downfield, never giving up on the play, yet remaining safe.

You know, Evan's not here, So I'm going to feel comfortable saying this because I feel like I'm going to save space with you guys.

I was really happy to see how he played tonight because I don't think the last two were yeah, quite as good as like the previous six.

Yeah ish, yep, you know.

And I thought he was you know, I was a little worried, like, is he starting to trend down a little bit?

Are they starting to figure him out a little bit?

You know?

So this was I thought this was a good sort of bounce back for him, you know.

And it's nice that he's bouncing back from a pretty high level.

It's not bouncing back from a fifty four yard passing day like Justin Fields had last week.

Yeah, yeah, you know.

And okay, we haven't got to the bat go ahead, you.

Throw it up by group here, so I had.

So we've talked about Henderson and I would put just specifically the goal to goal runs.

I thought on the first one, the offensive line basically picked him up and carried him into the end zone, which is really good toughness, good physicality, good finish.

In the second one, they just blew a hole open git that I could have run through a win who comes around on the poll.

I think Ben Brown was a was an eligible on the second one and he wrecked his guy.

So I just wrote, like the goal to goal offensive line performance.

Now, I don't think they ran the ball very well other than those goal to go runs.

The two seven yard touchdown runs were basically the highlight of the night for the running game.

So Henderson three touchdowns certainly on the good list, and I just thought specific mention of those goal to go.

Runs, yeah, I like it.

Another one I just want to highlight was just ball security.

We had three straight games Drake had had a turnover.

Came into this game saying, you just got to play clean tonight, you know, you just you can't beat yourself.

And I thought this was a great night to not have a turnover, to be safe with the ball.

You know, even the sacks that he took, it wasn't too hairy, you know, he went down.

I like that, Live to fight another day.

But I just think if you ever needed a night without turnovers, this was it.

They got rid of them, right, you know.

I mean that's how you lose to the Jets.

And I would just throw into that two penalties in the whole game.

So Thursday night, you're afraid of being sloppy and tired, and you weren't well, you might.

Have been a little I mean, the execution wasn't you know that great, especially on defense.

But they got out of it.

They got out of the game, you know.

And like again, everybody knows I do that blog and I hear what and I see what everyone's feeling because they're writing it down on the hundreds of comments, and you know, people like this is embarrassing.

How can they let the Jets be close?

Blah blah blah, and listen, I thought it'd be a blowout, but I'm not surprised it was close.

This is what happens that the Bills.

The Bills got blown out by Miami last week.

I mean, this, it happens, especially with division games, especially on Thursday night.

You ended up getting a thirteen point win.

Be happy with that, Be happy with that.

Yeah, I thought, I mean, I thought Paul described it well.

It was you never felt like the game was really in question, But it was.

Never like all right, it's over.

Like I never gave the nod until the guy dropped the fourth down pass.

Yeah, like, so that's not really a nod when there's right left in the game, you know, But I never felt threatened.

All right, threatened.

We have Christian Gozalees live with us.

Congratulations right after the wind.

What's up, Christian?

What's going on?

Good question, right off the top.

Short week, quick turnaround, obviously important game either way because of a division rival.

How does it feel to get this one?

Yeah?

It was a good one.

Short weeks are hard, and the division game is always going to be, you know, a fight regardless no matter what what two teams.

You know, it's the NFL.

It's hard to get wins in the NFL.

So you know, just coming in out, coming out and putting the work in and earning this win.

What's it like preparing for a Thursday night game because it is such a quick turnaround.

Yeah, I mean it's it's hard.

Uh, just you know, everything's so sped up.

Just you you gotta watch a lot of more film because you're really not out there doing as much as far as practice, so you kind of you gotta lock in more mentally, more than you already do for normal week.

So just to speed and and you gotta win recovery.

You gotta get recovered faster and and and do things to have your body ready and your mind ready to go on Thursday.

Christian, I know is still a waste to go, but you know, you guys want eight games the last two years combined, you now got nine wins in this season.

You're sure to winning record.

What can you say about getting to nine wins at this point in the season.

Yeah, win, It's hard in this league.

Every team is talented, and you know, it's it's just something we've talked about since.

You know, Ota is when when Rays came in and first team meeting.

You know, he said, we want to go out and win games and and be and have a winning culture.

So just doing that and and and stacking and you know, just come in to work every day and getting better.

So you know, it's nice.

But one thing I AP preached, nobody in this locker room is satisfied.

So you know, we're hungry for more and just want to keep going.

Christian, what kind of test was it to have just and Fields as a runner as often as he was to Night eleven carries a lot of those by design?

What kind of wrinkle was that?

And you know, how do you feel like you guys adjusted to that?

Yeah?

He did.

He did a great job being able to you know, extend plays and and make plays with with his legs, you know, designed and scrambles and you know that's that's you know, credit to him because that's that's hard to do.

That's hard to defend as as a whole defense, not just the back end, but the front seven.

You know, it makes plays longer.

And you know he's he's a real talented player and he can he can change the game with with with his legs.

So you gotta be on it.

And you know we're able to get out of get out of here with him win.

Well, yeah, I got one more for you, Christian, not to look not to get at past this win yet, but Jamar Chase T.

Higgins really good receiving corps coming up next week.

What have you seen from those guys?

Oh yeah, for sure, amazing receivers.

Body I think in the world knows what they can do.

So you know, we we were gonna enjoy this one tonight and then tomorrow it's onto the Bengals and Cincinnati.

Just you know, getting ready and.

You know we got some extra days to get some.

Extra film in, so uh, you know, enjoy this one and there will be a fun matchup and in a couple of days.

We'll get the film in, but get some resting too.

Enjoy.

Tells me, you guys are going to enjoy those ten days off.

Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy sleeping in for for once.

Congratulates Christian.

Christian all right.

Onto Cincinnati.

He's pretty chill with us.

Well, that's and it was funny she was talking.

You know, Chris is playing highlights of some of the plays that he was involved in.

And there was a deep ball that Mitchell got behind him on earning the game, a little double move caught him a little flat footed.

But just watching Gonzales.

Run out after him make up speed, well he I mean.

The guy dropped the pass.

But I'm just watching him, watch him run, Watch how calmly he's running.

Yeah, it's like there's just sticking with such a like a fluid motion to everything that he does.

Now, I'm not going to try to paint this picture as like a highlight reel play for Christian Gonzales, like this ball hits Mitchell right in the hands and it's got to be caught and it's not.

But I just was struck with how there's no panic in his game ever.

Ever, He's just so smooth.

Now It's good.

They're gonna need him.

That's why, I mean, I hated to turn the page quick to Cincinnati.

But you know, next week him against Jamar Chase T Higgins, it's going.

To be a great As Eldred watched this game, he's a big ad Mitchell fan.

I'm not a fan of him anymore.

Receiving performance I've ever seen.

I mean, I like it, Freddy, that could have been your PFW cover this.

Yeah, all drops, Mitchell targets one catch.

But Christian Gondals was on my list.

I don't think his numbers really gave him justice when you look at the performance that he had on this game.

But he was on my list before we interviewed him for the record.

Okay, A right, continue our good list.

I'll show you.

I don't know what.

I don't know anything else, so all right, I have I had Hunter Henry early in the game.

I thought, just this regular, reliable self, one of those third down catches with a guy right on him, draped all over him.

Uh, he's able to you know, make make the guy you know, fight through the contact and and pick up the first down.

You know again, you know the other team scores and you like you slip up, you know, all of a sudden you have a chance to be behind.

So I thought early on, you know, his numbers weren't great.

I mean four catches forty five yards, and I would say the same kind of from Mac Hollins.

And I would say Henry more than Hollins because of that missed opportunity on the deep ball late in the game.

But I had both of those guys on my good list.

I thought they showed up and made some place.

Let's start by Hunter Henry there on that second drive especially.

Yeah, he's just I mean I feel like that about kind of all their receivers right now.

It's like, you know, hard to say one that I was talking about.

They're all on the good list, but they continue to just have guys step up in moments when they need them.

Pop Douglas makes a play under Henry.

You know, it's not again, You're not gonna go around.

Oh he had ten catches, you know it maybe three four catches.

But at the same time, it's timely.

He is confident and trusts all these guys in key situations, and you know, it's just it's.

Just great for the room.

Everybody's contributing Yeah, Diggs had the one hundred yard game, but everyone else was involved and it just continues to feed on itself and continue to gather.

Momentum in that receiving room.

So it's a it's a great sign.

You guys have more good.

Yeah, French's not happy this win, but.

That's not you know, you got that wrong.

I am happy with the win.

You don't think they played great?

Well, No, they didn't.

It's Thursday night.

That's why I'm happy with the win.

Because it's a Thursday night.

People have suddenly developed undue expectations.

Well, listen, you thought they played great.

Great, No, but would play pretty good.

I think they played well enough to get out of dodge.

You know, do you wish it was a blowout?

Do you feel as though you'd be more comfortable if there was?

Of course I wish it was a blowout.

Yeah, I mean, I'm I.

You know, Paul likes to he wishes for the competitive games.

I wish for the blowouts when it's the Patriots.

You know, I don't want to see close games.

Give me the entertainment with the other ones.

I'm fully entertained by my team blowing out the other team.

But listen, I'm I'm nine and two.

Think about it, man, we're not.

It's not a season good bad, shocked.

I'm not a couple of When you're talking about goods like I'm trying to think of like individuals, it's hard to do.

That's fair.

Yeah, No, I agree with your original assessment that that the star was was May and he was the one who played the most.

Closely to what we've come to a customer, I agree with you on he.

Was the difference between winning and losing.

There was some up and down elements to some of these other guys, but I thought early in the game, Jet's try a little wrinkle with a little end, a round throwback to the quarterback.

Calebon Chase On is right on Justin Fields on a play that they're probably thinking we might be able to get it walk in touchdown.

One really nice play.

Sticking with him.

Jack Gibbons on a screen pass to you know, to Breese Hall, which is a big part of their offensive game plan is trying to get the ball to haul at times in space, you know, two yard loss with Jack Gibbons.

So I'm not telling you that those guys necessarily were great in the game.

They made good plays, but those were big plays.

Yeah, okay, you know at times, and.

I think that's what the good list is this game, because, like you said, yeah, in theory this they should have blown out the Jets, but there are a lot of people that stood out in specific moments where the game could have turned around in the jets favor and they were like, okay, I'm going to step up, yeah and make sure that doesn't happen.

That was a.

Particularly good play by Chase because he was engaged and he saw fields come out and was aware of that and disengaged and went with him.

You know.

So it was a heads up hit play by forty.

Four too, even like defended the pass.

Well, yeah, yeah, Mike, you got anything.

I was just going to share a little bit, you know, Paul, kind of backing up what you said about the pressure rate.

It was, you know, thirty five point one pressure rate for the offense, which is their best second best performance of the whole year according to next Jen Stats, second to Carolina.

So you know, the pass protection was was better tonight.

That's back and did not rush a lot tonight.

But like I said, they have two guys that are good edge rushers and they rushed a lot and they didn't get there a lot.

Yeah, So I have another thing that I don't think is minor.

I put the kick coverage tonight on the good list, and I'm going to add in.

I think Mike Rabel I think, and I don't know if he'll be asked about this because it's minutia.

That's probably not warranted in a postgame press converence, but I'd be curious when Matt comes in.

I think they had two second half touchbacks on kicks.

I think they were both intentional.

Of course.

I think that they had a lead and they said to themselves, the only way we can lose this game is if we give some free points away to a team that's very dangerous in the return game.

So I thought when they when they kicked off conventionally, they covered them well, tackled them around the thirty pretty much every time.

I think there was a twenty eight to twenty nine to thirty one somewhere around there.

And then they had two touchbacks in the second half, one with a twenty one to seven lead and one when they kicked the field goal to make a twenty seven to fourteen.

I thought that was an element in the game.

That was one of the things that we all said the only way that Jets can compete is if they special team special, and the Patriots made sure that didn't happen.

So it might be minutia, but I think it was important in the game.

Yeah, yeah, I.

Have one final silly one to add to the list.

No, that could have been a good list.

That's good.

Shop to sixty nine yard drives for touchdowns one in the second with Gronk be celebrated, all.

Right, I will oh yes.

Once I saw that second drive, I was like, I'm adding this to the list.

Very appropriate.

Can we just stop for saying like the half ends and you know, you're kind of like getting ready for halftime and all of a sudden, like Gronk's bing boys like they're just pumping it into the press box, and.

Like, that's right, I'm bad.

The energy that he had, I was like, I need some of that.

For both games, NonStop, non stop.

On that one, it sounds like we're heading to the bad list.

Now we're going head to the bad Who wants to how about those first drives?

Yeah, I got so.

I just first drive WTFE.

That's all I wrote in my below it was right down, right down the field again.

Uh you know a little bit of passing mixed in, you know, try to throw the comeback, the throwback pass there to feels that they this was the worst ending to me.

Yeah, talk more about fourteen plays.

Yeah, Like people have just been coming over seven minutes with great scripts, right, They've been coming out with great scripts and going down you know, six plays eighty yards touchdown.

This was like methodical converting third down after third down, some quarterback runs, some throws, you know, slant to Mitchell.

They imagine they completed a past to Mitchell.

I mean that's like.

Your guy must have hated this offense with the toss plays and the options and the you know, the college offense.

Well, you must have hated this.

It was it was working here on this drive, but there were there were four third down conversions.

You know, Fields did some damage running his legs.

It flashed back to that Chicago Bears game.

I thought they had a pretty good plan with him, you know, I like Paul asking Gonzalez about it.

I'm guessing they were expecting that a little bit.

But let's dovetail the first drive right into the third down defense, which you know, they they did, they did get off the field.

Uh you know after this for.

The rest of the first half was good three and ounce the rest of the first half.

No three in the second half on the second half.

And I'm not sure exactly what the answer is, but you know, it's again it just goes to this defense and analyzing it and are you know, are these legitimate holes?

Is this you know, just kind of how it goes within the play of the game that you know, some teams are gonna, you know, can make some conversions on you.

But at the same time, I think there's just been some recurring problems, including in the red zone.

Was showed up again right on that first drive where you know, and it was I know what, Marcus Jones fell down on a touchdown that Ben covered, So Woodson fell down.

Sorry, you know, but there's been a lot of them that's been too easy.

Like it's like there's a guy wide open and you know, I know, guy falls down, but.

Still anyway he was he had a step down.

I mean, this is you know, this is pitching catch right here.

You're watching the one inside just a quick little you know, inside slant.

So I I'm not sure how they fixed this problem.

But it's just I mean it's every week.

It's every single week.

Teams are coming out with a good plan and going right down the field.

Well, and the Jets, you know, won the toss, but elected to ye, like, we're.

All sitting there going, oh, that's crazy.

They had a playoff and they and they thought that their playing would work and they were right.

So that gets to my my first pat is I'm going to you know, we've been making a lot of the double score.

Well, you got double zeros on this one.

You get set up basically in field goal range.

At the end of the first half.

I thought they got a little conservative that they ran the ball.

You come out and run the ball on first down, that makes sense, but you get too many men in the field penalty, so it becomes first and five and then they ran it again.

Yeah, I don't think you needed the second run.

Then they go deep and then they run a couple, you know, they run a slanted digs, a little dump off to Henderson.

You got it going.

And then I thought they you know, they stalled out and then you missed the field goal, which is another one on my bad list.

And so.

You come out in the second half and you get stuffed stuffed on the first drive and you come away with no points.

You had a couple of long yarded situations that you put yourself in and you were able to get out of one of them and not the second one.

Yeah, they're just not great.

Yeah.

Yeah, similar to the good list.

A lot of the people on my bad list were people that had bad plays that I felt like, again could have shifted the momentum in the Jets favor.

And you mentioned Andy Burgalis them icing him missing that forty five yarder.

It yeah, you know, and he's been having a great run so far, ever since Week one.

But it's one of those things where I was like, God forbid that was the game winning.

Yeah, now you need it from him.

He's been on a good heater.

I mean, you're not going to hold this totally against him, I mean, especially as a rookie, but like you said, he missed a field goal week one, he missed two extra points in week two.

He's been good since then.

Hopefully this isn't the start of another trend.

And we're seeing Mike Grabiel looked like he was about to put him on the bad list as well, exactly, But I could bounce back for him though that other one you know, that's you know, similar similar distance, similar spot on the field, So a little bit of a bounce back there from bor.

Yep, you have anything, uh.

Not off the top of my head, so bad.

Craig Woodson on there, but that was like it was one play that really would.

Just make because where he fell.

And I'm like, how do you lose you like this?

I know, I know he was everyone's darling last week, but Kyle Williams, Oh yeah, he's bad.

You know, he had that one game last week and he's right back to everything.

Just doesn't look right when the ball gets thrown his way.

I mean, like really bad.

Yeah, what is going on with that?

It's a good one, fred I didn't have it written down.

That's a good, good point.

He's just not He just doesn't know his routes.

He has no instincts, you know, even the one pass where you know, may scrambled.

Uh, he's got to come back to that ball.

Yeah, this one on the wrong shoulder.

I mean, you know, I don't know if.

Say what what's wrong or not, but what's clear to me is that they just don't have any chemistry yet.

And that's that's the unfortunate part, and it's it hasn't really.

I mean, I know what I talked about in the pregame, Mike and I sort of said, you know, we'd love to see him catch four or five balls.

I don't care if it was for like thirty or forty yards.

Right, it just looks like he has a connection with the quarterback and it looks just like it did the first.

Yeah, he's back to nine games.

You thought that, Okay, he had that play last week.

Give him some confidence.

Maybe you know he has that three or four catch game, like Paul said in.

Uh huh No, No, it's a good one for him.

Yeah, we need booty back.

We do give me my booty back.

I want my back.

I think he was fortunate to have a guy who evidently wears boxing gloves during the game.

And I'm serious, like, I don't think I've ever seen a guy just not be able to catch as many catchable passes in one games as Mitchell did tonight.

There were at least three.

The bomb the Cowboys are like, yeah, we got rid of them.

The Colts, the little one that admittedly fields made a bad throw to the outside when he but he really beat Gonzales on that play, but he still had it in two hands.

And then he had a little crossing route right before the Metchi touchdown, the little crossing route that goes literally right through his hands.

You never see NFL players have a ball go through their hands like that and not at least like it bounces off.

It's almost like he's having vision problems.

So in all three of those plays, Gonzo was in coverage on and you know it doesn't show.

Up, but maybe just the presence of Gonzo.

I know, well.

That all's got to get caught.

I know this is a bad gets caught up in the wash right there, and he gets beat like that.

If that's a good throw, that's a big play.

Yeah, well but he's got two you have to catch.

That sets up a big game next weekend for Gonzo against some legit superstars.

Someone tells me Gonzo will be a little more locked in a little with that chan that challenge as opposed to this guy.

Yeah, I also had you know, I call him pick threes even though it's a fumble recovery.

I mean, you got you got to put the game away right there and make it a three score game.

Fred that's just poor to me, just poor to you.

Yeah, yeah, no, seriously, like it's first over?

Was it even the eleven?

I think so, I thought it was.

You might be right, yeah, uh, you know, four plays, three yards field goal not not not what you're looking for, ye, not what you're looking for.

You get a gift on a on a fumbled snap.

It's not even like you did anything to force a turnover.

You get it gifted to you, and then you gift four points right back to the other team by not being able to put the game away.

You know, like why you know, we joke around about the stupid nod, which is meaningless because, let's face it hasn't been right in fifteen years.

You're looking for a nod, Well, that's the nod, that's the knockout blow, and you kick a field goal and you leave the team in the game.

Yeah, because it's thirteen instead of seventeen.

See, these are things to me that are really that will get your beat, because these are things that will get your beat against good teams in the playoffs.

And that's you know, I think what we started to do analyzing this team is holding them to a standard of the playoffs and the things that we'll get your beat.

And you know, just as a prime example, you can't go into a playoff game and allow the other teams just to go right down the field and score.

You know, I mean it's sometimes it happens, but they've got to figure out a way to stop that trend.

And you know, you just you can't always play from behind right out of the shoot So I'll be interested to see Fred if other teams are taking the ball, you go and testing them on it, because there aren't a lot of statistical weaknesses on this defense, but that one in red zone are definitely.

I mean next week, you know, a week from Sunday when they play the Bengals with or without Burrow, they're putting up a lot of points.

So you let this team score first, and you're you're going to be in a shootout.

And to your point in the press box that we were all talking about the fact that that's probably why the Jets took the ball because they knew if they see that, they oh yeah, I was on different floor.

Look at that.

Everyone some ball knowers on all.

Sometimes sometimes the stats don't lie.

I gotta tell you, I still think it's dumb.

Really go kicking the ball.

So let's just unwrap this game for a second.

So they took the ball and got as perfect as a start can be.

So not only you score a touchdown, you take eight minutes to score a touchdown.

So you shortening the game, right, Yep, you still should have been down two scores going into the second half when the other team's going to have the ball.

Yeah, So to what end when you're taking the ball?

What's the difference if you score first or second, but give yourself a chance to get that double score.

That's that back to back possessions, right, Yeah, so the other team, So the Patriots got the back to back possessions.

Now, fortunately for the Jets, they didn't score in either one of them, but they just as easily could have the other.

Thing about taking the ball take you know, letting the other team take the ball on the road, is it quiets the crowd down.

The crowd is going to lose that early, the momentum that they had at the beginning of the game, because they have to get be quiet for their offense, right, and then if and then if you can stop their offense, Yeah, takes maybe some of the air out of the crowd.

Too, right, I will always defer, and then.

If you my defense on the field, especially at home.

Yeah, to reason to.

Your point two in the second half, then you're getting the ball in the second half and people might still be in the in the concession stands.

You know, it's a little wide.

You know, the second half doesn't always start off the same way.

But yeah, I don't know.

I mean, it seemed like it.

Worked on like it's even when it worked, they still if the Patriots are able to execute like they have in recent weeks around halftime, they.

Still be in a weather game, especially when there's win.

If you take the if you left to receive and you win the toss, don't you get to determine which half on the second half, which side of the field you're going to defend in the fourth quarter?

Well, I think if you take the ball, the other team picks which end they want, right.

But then but then in the right so the other team could decide that we're going to defend this goal and kick off both halves or something like that.

Yeah, you could do that.

Yeah, you have the option in the second half to either take the wind or take the ball.

If it was like extreme win right, right, I didn't have a lot of things on my bad list because I'm kind of in the Monday, Monday, the Thursday night mode.

I think these are the way that Thursday night games generally, Like, I know what you're saying, Fred, and I don't think you're.

Wrong disappointed life, I would love, very disappointed.

To spend the next hour bickering with you, because I love bickering with you.

But I agree with you.

I don't think it was a great crisp performance, but it was a Thursday night performance that was more than good enough that yeah, that's it for me.

That's it for me.

And I also don't think they're all that capable of playing that much better.

Like we've seen greatness at times every game, and then periods we were like, Josh doesn't know what he's doing.

What's it running for?

How much of a fact do you think losing you know, basically losing Williams for the majority of the game made.

Yeah, a little bit little bit sure.

I mean, uh, you know, I mean we should say too, it's a good sign that he came back briefly.

And then I mean I was saying at that point just hold him out.

But yeah, I mean I think they definitely have some injuries.

That's another part of this with that's a.

Concern to me.

No Hooper, no, no Booty, no Stevenson.

I mean they were a little yeah, they were a little bit shorthanded, and uh, you know, so I don't know if.

He snaps and he came back on a third down, like the first third down of the next drive, he came back in and my guess is you can't do it.

And I don't know what's going on with Landry, but let's hope that this extra few days helps him because he just doesn't have the burst, he doesn't have any any quickness.

Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep an eye on him.

But uh, you know, I'm not that he's on the good list or anything, but you know, Ponder showed up a little bit and he's getting some chances and he did last week too, yep, yep, So maybe that's a you know, a positive sign.

Saw a little bit Anthony Jennings to recover, you know, Johnny on the spot with the fumble.

But uh yeah, that's it's it's definitely a concern.

I mean I I I tend to think Landry's still a little banged up from that ankle injury, and I thought he was gone for the year when he heard his ankle there against New Orleans and he's been toughing it out.

But no question the Williams injury would be in my if he were out long term.

I'm saying, you know, that would be the first significant problem since gone Zoe in those first three games.

Yeah, yeah, that would be.

He's played very well for them, and I'm you know, you guys are right, like I'm not telling you.

I can't quantify it, but I don't think the defense was quite as good as it has been the you know, over the balance of the game, it's always that first drive and then they lock it down.

They didn't lock it down in the second half of this game.

The Jets moved the ball every time they had it the second half.

The first drive they were in Patriots territory and got a very close intentional grounding where he kind of ran out of the tackle box and maybe was back in it and maybe there was I like intentional grounding.

I think they need to call it more often, but they don't.

Call it so long to call it because they have to.

Make sure that the guy is where he's supposed to be and there's no one in the area and they all have to talk.

There was certainly no one in the area between the tackles.

I think I think they should call that more often.

I'd like to see that penalty that they called tonight called yeah, regularly, But that stopped that drive.

Then the next drive, I think they went down and scored a touchdown.

The next drive, I think they went down and got stopped, like, oh, well, that was it.

They had the fumbled snap in between.

That was the only stop they really got in the second half.

Then they drove down and you know, we're inside the fifteen to end the game.

So you know, it wasn't like, you know, they just they just just don't have that kind of an offense that they're going to put up big numbers.

But two hundred and forty five yards for them, it's like one hundred more than they had last week when they scored twenty seven points.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's the there's the tackle box.

Yeah, and there's no one.

There's no one there.

That's to me, that's intentional grounding.

But they don't call this a lot.

They don't call intentional grounding a lot.

But I think that's a good call, and I think that's the right call.

We got through all of it.

I mean, we cover that, We talked to Williams injured.

Anyone else got nicked up?

No one.

I think Chasen was was limping around on the sideline at one point, but I think he was back in there.

Diggs took a fall that had me a little bit.

Thought he was holding his hip, but he came right back.

Yeah, but he's a fighter, a gamer.

Yeah, kid, if he caught it, he gotten smoked.

Yeah, hospital, Yeah, that was I mean that might have been his only bad throw it to night Gary.

Yeah, a drop, but that was might have been a business decision by Diggs.

Close.

Well, we'll forgive him of that.

Okay, we're getting calls.

I know the fans are excited about this one.

So we'll go back to our friend Patty and I hope that's right.

We'll see Patty.

How are you feeling?

It was a therapy, that's greater.

I'm feeling good.

You're feeling real good now.

I was texting my fellow Whackpackers and I just said, you know, at the beginning of the season, I said I'd be happy with seven to nine wins as long as they were making progress, and I couldn't have envisioned this, like nine and two.

I just I can't believe it after the last couple of years of crap that we had to sit through.

And like I was listening to you guys and watching the Amazon postgame and Brabil and Drake May were sitting down with their crew, and it just seems genuine, you know, it seems like these guys really like love playing like May loves playing for the guy, and this whole team loves them.

And what this team does is it doesn't matter if they you know, Thursday night or in Buffalo against a good team, against Tampa Bay, against the crappy teams, this team just wins.

And I'm just excited, guys.

I can't wait to see where the season goes.

We got six games left and that's freaking crazy.

I mean, if they go three and three, they have twelve wins.

I'm sick of I'm not you know, Okay, let's.

Get to thirteen.

We're gonna head somewhere more warm Miami, Steve, then that's that heat.

If you're awake Steve, Steve in Miami, wake up.

Steve, Steve, that's the button all right, Luke.

In Georgia, I just shung up on.

I'm sorry, Luke, are you up?

Hey?

We got you?

Hey.

So I am extatic.

Never in a million years that I have thought we are where we are right now, But being a spoiled Patriots fan and I'm relatively not a ball nowhere, I just feel like the past two weeks we've kind of oh taken that we're we're getting a two score leader or so, and then kind of taking the foot off the gas.

Now.

I enjoyed the game, love the game, it was great, happy to win, have to have a winning season.

But do you all concur is it something we're doing?

Is it something opposing teams are doing?

Just the Thursday night Will and I'll take it off air than you.

Why can't they think?

You know, he's saying the last two weeks, you get a two score lead and you kind of take your foot off.

Seems like you take your take your foot off the gas.

I don't know.

I don't know if I put it that way.

I understand what.

I don't think looking for perfection right, I think people are looking at the record and they think that they're at a level that I don't think they're at ye.

Well, they're expecting, you know, it to be perfect every time.

And what's encouraging to me is that you're seeing the flashes of the place.

I don't think you can expect those on every down, but I don't think it's too much to expect.

Expect a little bit more, a little bit more consistency.

I mean, that's probably the next see.

I kind of think it is.

And I think that people are looking at this team like it's like the fourteen Patriots, Like once the Patriots had control of the game, they're going to take a two score game and make it a four score game because they were that good.

This team isn't This team is better than the teams it's playing each week, not by a ton no difference.

I mean, think about it.

The run game isn't really that consistent.

They averaged three point three yards.

Henderson averaged three point three yards tonight.

He had three touchdowns and I know he's going to get a lot of flowers for it, and he should.

He's playing really well.

I don't mean to say that it's on him, because it doesn't matter if it's Stevenson running.

Didn't matter if it was Deannis Johnson tonight got three carries.

They don't run the ball very well.

I'll give them credit tonight.

You know, when the game was over, you know up thirteen, they ran it three times for a first down.

Yeah, I like that.

Yeah, I mean maybe that's part of it.

Paul I.

You know, and I don't mean Mike.

I don't mean to like say like you're wrong.

This is as good as they can be, period.

But I kind of think it is like I think that they're playing very well every week, but they're not going to play sixty minutes of like flawless offense.

Yeah, well not not with the cast that they have.

I just start to trying it back, is almost perfect every game.

I would just started trying to find the rising numbers today.

Twenty five to thirty four for two eighty one in a touchdown, yeah, one oh six point seven.

But it's just looks like an average game for him.

It was a little dyslexic, right, one oh seven point six.

If this is how it looks like with him with no running game at all, I don't think it's too much to expect that Ramandra Stevenson comes back and maybe you find some stride in the run game, and then it takes some of this pressure off of Drake.

May I mean to me, that's part of it too, that it's all kind of on him right now.

And yeah, they made some big plays last week that really changed the game.

But if he had a consistent run game, and it doesn't even have to be dominating, but consistent, it might be a little.

Bit more favorable.

And then number the third and longs he's trying to get it.

I would have been that.

So but I've watched eleven games and I haven't seen a consistent running game and any yeah, yeah, yeah, so I totally agree.

If they ran the ball better, it wouldn't be on Drake made to convert third and twelve every time.

Well, the Miami game, you know, like that one, it felt like they had they got a little juice from Remandra and it was a little more around it.

Right now, this might be a next year thing.

This might be a thing where we say, that's where we got a kid.

We got Henderson, we need to build around him.

We got to figure out this offense.

Maybe we get another receiver, you know, who makes us a little better.

Maybe Fred's guy comes back and he maybe you know, some of these struggles in the second half.

If Booty was there, it might maybe it would look a little different.

You know, I feel like they played pretty well most of these games.

You know, it wasn't perfect, but there's six or twelve on third down three hundred and thirty six yards.

The only drive that I really was annoyed with was they take over on the fumble and they go three and out.

Yeah, like that can't happen.

But you know, Bryce Barringer doesn't get a lot of work.

His's punt a lot in these games.

I think their offense is pretty good every week.

Now this kind of leads back.

I think Fred and I are on a different page from you and Evan.

Evan made a comment, sort of an offhand comment during one of the PU shows this week where he said, you know, they have, you know, an explosive offense, and Fred just stopped in his tracks.

Would you characterize this offense as explosive?

And that's what right?

I'm not mischaracterizing you, right, No, I sort of fall in the middle of you too, but I know exactly what you were talking about.

I think that they're generally scoring around twenty four points a game.

Yep, when you take out like this is a perfect example.

Take out the three that they gave you and it's twenty four right now.

You could say they missed a field goal.

I would say, get they gave you three on that one too, with the guy dropping the pass at the end of the half which gave you that possession.

But you take out the kick return in Miami, your low twenty yep, you take out the you know, the defensive scores that get set up, like you know, the punt returns from Marcus Jones that gave you fourteen to get you into Like their offense has been very consistent, and it's very consistently around twenty five points.

I'd be had Like if I could say just good, that's a good offen it is, But like I wish I could say, well, you know that they're just playing with their food, But they're not.

They're not.

You know, they're doing enough to win these games.

And at the end they're they're usually ending the games on a knee, which is a good sign.

You're ending the game with the ball in your hands, with your quarterback taking a knee.

That's that's that's huge in this league.

And you know so and when they we got nothing to complain about.

But they're not an explosive offense yet, Well, no different.

Between They're not ready to say that.

I'm not ready to say it's an explosive offense just because they have all of these, you know, explosive plays, but I'm not willing to say they're not explosive.

Is there a difference between explosive and high scoring?

Because I think Paul saying they're not scoring.

They're they're not they're not high.

They make explosive plays like, way more consistently than I've seen.

Mike, Yeah, yes, one hundred, so compare comparatively to the last two years.

It's like this is the ninety nine Rams.

Yes, they are making X plays.

Mike, don't know doubt about it.

I mean, Drake may for a while, I don't know if it's still true, but he was the best downfield passer in the league.

I mean he still looks like.

It's that's I mean, that's where the weird nuance of it is, because I mean, Paul's right, they don't score thirty.

You know, I think by some measures, explosive means out they're thirty thirty five.

We're watching the numbers.

We're watching Drake May And you know, Evan has a crush, right, so let's.

Face it, let's call it.

It is more than a crash.

And Mike and I sometimes have to hose Evan off during games.

So you know, we're talking about, you know where his numbers are, And I go, you know, if he had hit that one, you know, if if Hollins was able to hold on that go, that would have given him his first three hundred yard game.

Yeah, And he goes, what are you talking about?

I go, he's never had a three hundred yard game.

Now, three hundred is benchmark right in the NFL, Like four hundred is exceptional.

Three hundred is like, oh, you had a we had a really good game, solid game.

He's had a million games like tonight where he's like two eighty ish yep, which is really good.

Yeah, right to your point, I wouldn't classify that was like explosively.

Now, I think he's like third in the league in yards.

Yeah, I mean six six twenty plus plays tonight.

Yeah, but they're but they're like twenty two, twenty three.

Yeah, twenty twenty one, three.

Twenty six, right, which again it's not like Mike and I will sit here and well we watched the last two years this week.

Yeah, you know this is this has been great, But there's it.

Like to Fred's point, I just don't want to like beat up on Fred because he sort of sees it differently.

I know what Fred's talking about.

I'm in between.

Yeah, well I think that there's it's not so I was here seven I know what.

I know that offense explosive.

And thirty eight points a pop, you know, essentially when they were flying with all with all things, and so I mean it's there's just some nuance here that they hit a lot of twentiest plays, but you know, not enough to score consistently in the thirties yet.

But you hope that even the.

Game last week, you end up with twenty eight and it looks great like you're not You're trying to run the clock out at the end of the game and you rip off a seventy yard run Like that's not like explosive.

It's not really an explosive way back and forth them.

You know, I mean we.

Expecting that, like like Bill just say, you know you're not calling that play expecting to score a touchdown.

You know what.

You know what next week though, next week.

Next week defense.

But you're going all the time.

You know what to do.

You got to make sure you make that defense look like the worst defense in the league, just like tonight.

I wanted to like, I'm a tiny bit disappointed in the defense tonight because I wanted to see them look like they made Cleveland look so inept.

So like an explosive offense is like the Fourth of July, like a twenty minute firework display, instead of four or five bombs going off every drive, getting some.

People the bottle rocket.

This is like we went with Paul up to New Hampshire.

We bought you know, we bought some bottle rocket.

Candles, a couple of booms, a couple of booms, but but not the whole professional.

It's not the Fourth of July yet.

Freddy knows them already knows has some experience, already had a wonderful wedding in New hamps.

Afterwards, big budget for that one.

Who was a younger time yea digs running really seriously, I'm just watching, uh, you know the regularly one of the TV broadcasts showing some of the highlights to that.

Chris has already run through some of those runs by some routes by digs though.

Oh he's so professional, so dependable, He's got a really unique.

I'm so glad.

I just know how much I know how much you didn't like him.

Well I'm seeing now because it's reminded me when you're on the other side of it, how maddening it is.

Because he's great on those gotta have it moments, you know, and that's with Buffalo.

So many times we saw him doing exactly what he you know, did to the Jets tonight, and what he's been doing all year long.

And you know, I mean I just speaking like.

Having having covered his press conferences now in the locker room like every week we get, you know, just saying all the right stuff.

I don't know what he was like younger in his career.

I don't know what he was like off the field or in the locker room if he was, you know, but he has been.

We walk in there Wednesday, He's ready to go at his locker.

He does not try to get out of it.

He's got jokes, he's happy to talk to everybody.

He's pointing out other guys on the team.

He's just doing everything you could ask.

Of the guy on and off the field.

Those two touchdown drives in the first half tonight I really liked because they were, you know, just methodical, a lot of you know, a lot of third and threes that they're converting with ease.

You just quick throws, wide open boom, you know, just good execution.

The one in the second half is that it was one that included like four straight wall plays by Drake May, which are great.

I love watching those two, but you know, my whole thing is like, that's not really stuff you want to rely on, like Fred said, like him running to the sideline and being like a split grass, blade of grass away from you know.

Yeah, that's what they love though, But I I you know, again, it was great to watch.

Great to watch that drive to start the you know, the second drive of the second half, this is the one I think you're talking about, Fred, that's just a little dump off, you know, light.

Yep, back breakers.

Man's just frustrating.

I thought he might have been over the line of scrimmage on that one, but they never really showed the line of scrimmage so.

I couldn't tell.

So yeah, looked okay, but there's no stick on that side.

It was I think on the first one they showed they had.

I can't see.

Yeah, all right, let's head back out to the phone lines.

We're gonna go up, not to in New Hampshire, Let's go to Maine.

Yeah, I think so.

Hello Peter, Peter, Hello, Hey, Hello, this is amazing.

It feels like just yesterday I was standing in the rain watching the Patriots get beat six zip by the Chargers.

I wanted to talk about Robert Kraft getting more credit because you know, you go way back.

You made a bold call bringing Belichick.

He made another bold call showing them the door.

He elevated Mayo, he made a really you know it was it was a tough call showing on the door.

But then really what's important is both Rabel and McDaniels both wanted to come back.

And work for him.

So he deserves a lot of credit for the organization he built, and these guys want to come back to the Patriots and coach.

And the question though, also I have because I've heard a lot of this on Paul's shows, is that it was Craft who brought him Daniels and as if Rabel had no, no, no saying the matter.

And I don't think that's true.

I think Rabel want Hi McDaniel's back just as much.

Crafted Yeah, I have no idea.

I assume Rabel was on board.

I mean, you know, you're not going to bring in the head coach and and not have him agree on who his offensive coordinator is going to be.

So but uh, yeah, I agree.

I mean you have to admit failure, and you know, in tectors of saying you fail fast, you know, with startups, and you pivot and you go a different direction, and and sometimes that's not easy to do, and it was.

I'm sure it was pretty hard for Robert Kraft after having promised Gerrod Mayo that job and Darrowd Mayo waiting for that job for the years that he did, and then he finally gets it, and then Kraft has to tell him after one season, you're out.

I'm sure that was a real difficult thing to do, but he had to do it.

I mean, it's even more interesting to me after Brian Costello kind of confirmed some of the reports that we heard about Rabel had a meeting the Friday before the last game of the season, So two days before we were sitting here in the postgame show and the news broke that they you know, had let Mayo go.

I mean, Rabel had already met with the Jets.

They wanted him.

So I mean that, to me, within the worst possible scenario to let a Patriots Hall of Famer like Mike Rabel gets to the Jets.

So you know, it seemed like they had to move fast if they wanted to get on that.

So grateful now.

Yeah, I mean we didn't know that at the time, but yeah now we do.

Yeah, all right speed in Fresno speak.

What's going on?

Yeah, I mean I feel I still feel bad for for Mayo and the way that ended, But man, I can't be more grateful.

Man, this is unbelievable.

We're not.

It's crazy.

Yeah, It's just I can't.

I can't believe it.

I feel bad for the guy, for Mao, but this is the like.

I will I did.

I did want more definitive win against the Jets.

I wanted full on, like antal proleps, but you know, Thursday night and they didn't get there.

But man, I just can't believe it.

I wanted to ask you guys a couple of things, like there's that first drive where it seems like the Jets balls down for seven I have this mythological idea that the Patriots are so I don't know, awesome, that they just they're just waiting to watch the other team score and they're going to figure it out and just offensively.

And I mean, I've almost kind of seen that in the past and various iterations of the dynasty, and I wonder if that's a mythology.

And I'm just seeing what I want to see.

And the second thing I wanted to ask before I hop off is because the fireball is kicking in, It's kicked.

It's kicked.

I'm kicked.

Everything is fine.

Yeah, it's only what kind of clo as they.

Say everything is everything is awesome?

You know?

With with Drake, I wanted to get your guys takes like comps on him, both like in two ways, one as a as like a leader of personality so far, but then separately as a player, because that's a player I'm doing like a combination of I don't know, Farv and Manning and I don't know, it's it's just smorgas board.

But I wanted to hear your guys takes and all that, and I will absolutely get out of your way for it.

Drake May I mean, I just I think the easiest one is the Justin Herbert and and Josh Allen.

You know, he's in that vicinity of big mobile quarterbacks with arm and you know, he doesn't quite have the size and kind of the brute's strength of Josh Allen.

You know, he's not quite maybe the cannon that Justin Herbert has.

But I don't know.

Those two guys.

Are a little bit of Brett Farve him.

He's got a lot of Josh Allen in him, you know.

I think all of them.

Yeah, I think you guys have good ones all around.

On the screen.

We have the regular season MVP odds, drag May still leading the pack, a.

Lot of m VP chants, and I a lot of yeah early it was a good crowd.

So are you're going to be one of those guys that you know, I mean not necessarily you specifically, but guys the Royal you you guys, you're concerned if he wins the m v P with the you know, the lack of Super Bowl winners.

I think Mahome the trend.

Mahomes won the m v P in the Super Bowl in twenty two.

I believe before that you had to go back.

To ninety nine.

Oh for an MVP whov won the super Bowl the year the year he won the I didn't know what, so I wouldn't have been concerned about it, But now I am lot.

I don't want him to win now tonight.

No, I don't know.

I don't really I don't care about nonsense like that.

That doesn't really matter.

I just think I don't even understand what you're saying.

There's been one guy who won the m v P in the super Bowl and the year he won the.

MVA okay, and so you're saying it if he wins almost certainly, it's like feels like it's not going to win the super Bowl, not gonna Yeah, yeah, even yeah.

I think things that are coincidences don't worry me.

Yeah, Like there's if you can give me a fact to say you can't win the super Bowl if you win the MVP, then I would not want him to win the MVP.

Right, But it's a coincidence that Tom Brady person, yeah, didn't win the super Bowl and O seven and ten when he won m v P s, they certainly had teams that were good enough to win the super Bowl in O seven anyway, I don't know about ten, but in O seven they certainly, you know, with twenty seconds away from being undefeated.

So I don't think it was because he won the MVP that they didn't win.

I just think it's an interesting I like the debate, and I've always been a guy that airs on the side of for MVP, it should be the guy who elevates his team the most, not the best player on the best team.

I think the most strongest kiow right there, you know, is everything we just talked about that which Mike every day, every game, it's someone new stepping up around May.

But ultimately he doesn't really have a running game and he doesn't really have Jamar Chase out there.

So you know, to me, this is kind of what the MVP is supposed to be, the guy who is really just elevating the team, especially doing it like the way he's done it kind of out of nowhere too.

That's just you know, I know that doesn't count towards MVP voting, but I never I never would have expected this this year from him, and it's it's remarkable and it's it's fun to watch.

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And guys, I might have done them before, but we're going with Drake.

I just I got to do it after these eleven games.

This kid has just might stick together an MVP esque campaign and I'm I'm enamored with the young the young man, the progress he's made this year, the place he's making down the field.

We talked about it for the last like three years, talking about how hard it is to find the guy at quarterback.

Patriots took the third quarterback in the draft and they got a really, really good player.

So for me, if you're going to build the next legacy, Drake May is a great place to start.

Just excited to see here as we get down to the final six games, what this kid is going to continue to do.

But it's been really exciting, and I think you can feel the excitement from Patriot Nation and everybody just acknowledging how good Drake May has been.

So we're going to build a next legacy.

Drake May's the guy, and I think we could build on him every week, not to give your.

I know we could.

I just feel like I got to make sure I get this kid his flowers.

I mean, it's been so impressive what he's done.

And you wait for some ebs and flows, and there have been microscopic ones, but for the most part, he's been on an upper trajectory this whole season long.

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All right, we have a full house as usual during this part of the show.

Matt Smith, Paul Parilla, myself, Quantie Linas might do so, and Fred Kurse and Matt is always the bearer of some good sound for us.

Well that's to be determined to.

Well, we'll see.

I'm hoping.

Well, what do we got to hear?

Boys and girls?

What do you think?

You know?

We feel good.

I want to know what Mike Grabel thinks.

All right, so without any of you doo, without further ado, let's go to the videotape and here from Mike Grabel.

Players are staff.

I thank them so many times just being able to roll in there on Monday, have stuff prepared, you know, it's hard to you know, go on the road to Tampa, you know, and get your mind, you know, ready for that.

But also in the back of your mind you've got a whole another box about you know, what are you going to do against the Jets and being able able to get on a plane, come home, get in late, but have that ready to go and have energy and a game plan ready for the players on Monday at one o'clock.

So thank the trainers, thank the staff, the strength staff, everybody involved for for getting our players ready to go for the game here in a short, short week.

Your fans were chanting MVP for Drake from the minute he came out in almost every series.

What did you make of his performance tonight and his performance in general and route well, I.

Would say his performance in general has been you know, what we expect, and you know, we have high expectations for Drake has high expectations for himself.

He'll continue to improve and know that he'll stay humble through this all.

And you know, again and as far as the performance tonight, I thought it was, you know again in first view, you know, pretty pretty good.

He was good enough to win, and he took care the football.

And we just have to, you know, continue to focus on the little things, operation on forced airs throughout the you know, the offense.

The only thing that really stops us is us you know, offensively, So continue to do that.

Let them enjoy h win on a short week.

And like I told him, I'm excited about we're nine and two.

I'm excited that I don't have to see him till one.

Day Williams went out, looked like he came back, gave it a go.

Was it a situation where in a different situation than maybe he could have Maybe.

Maybe I made it just a decision that it felt like, you know, we should probably just start treating that thing and get ahead of it and see where he's at here tomorrow, in the next couple of days, and you know, try to weigh again he wanted to to try to go and you know, say, he's out here standing with me when guys are coming in and he's excited for him.

So I appreciate his leadership, but I just made a decision that I felt like was best for the team and that that, you know, for his instance.

What strikes you about this fan base.

Well, I think they're passionate.

I think that they have high expectations.

I think that they are they're loyal, and I think they're knowledgeable.

I think they understand what it is that they should be seeing.

I think they, like I said, we've got to give him reasons to cheer and be excited.

So yeah, I mean I think we've done that.

I think that we've and they've in return have given us a great atmosphere to play in front of What.

Are your thoughts on Travon Henderson and what he's brought the team.

I would say the best.

You know, a couple of runs he had were there late in the game when it's tough sledding and we're in five minutes and they know we're going to run and they're blitz in and everything else, and looked like we were going to be short, and he's able to the knife through there and keep his pads down and pick up a huge first down.

So he's executed, you know, whether that's a checkdown or to touchdown in the back of the end zone.

And you know, no home runs tonight, but I thought he grinded out pretty much what was there.

It's always you know, helped us a lot of ways tonight.

And saw the pile push touchdown, which was really cool.

And so I'm happy every time that you know, guys can help us and they can get into the end zone and Christian Barmore and finally get the sack that he's been looking for.

And he's had a lot of ushers and he's been.

Back there, and you know, they work, they work really hard.

And then they I want him to to all have success.

Last question, Uh, the Jets came in with one of the best return units in the league.

What were you able to see on the initial viewing that allowed you to slow them down and contain them?

Well, well, I thought we got off blocks.

They didn't give him a lot of space.

You know, as schooler got a triple team one time and went down there and made to play.

We punted.

Well, you know, the gunners did a nice job, but you're right, you know, they have a really good return unit.

I thought our kickoff coverage took a lot of pride and I think we've done a really good job of covering kicks and so that was a good challenge and they stood up to it.

That's a good unit.

And uh, I was excited to watching, you know, bring some energy to the sidelines.

I told you, if everybody's going to get up off the bench, we better give him something to cheer about.

So thank you guys.

Have a good weekend.

Yeah, very think he means that.

I think he does.

By the way, what's that have a good weekend?

Oh yeah, I don't think he's just saying that.

Why wouldn't he mean it?

Okay, maybe I'm just os.

Just because just because we used to have a coat.

Never acknowledged that.

But if you tell someone to have a good weekend, so a little.

Post game nerdiness that it might only just interest me.

But it was all out of order tonight because you know, the Amazon postgame show, it's a big show, by the way, for those that were around here, you know, they come in very very heavy, and they had a big post game show, and they had Mike and Drake mayon and there was probably I don't know a couple of hundred people that were in the North End zone cheering them.

On, yelling Rabel Rabelerable and m v P and stuff like that.

Those guys have a little bit of fun with it, but that threw off their general post game kind of order to everything.

So he came in liked it a little bit breathing heavy because he was out there.

I asked, why did it seem like he just played in the game.

Yeah, I understand a little inside base.

I think he sounded and rightly so, very satisfied probably with where they are right now.

When he started answering and he was talking about the Tampa stuff, I was like, don't do the bill thing like the old woe was me, like we had to play on the road, like and then none of that.

It's like we're able to get focused, you know, focus on that game while having this game in the back of your mind.

Really happy with the way that they prepared.

I like the way he answered that.

I thought he was going in a different direction at first, and I sort of think think he took a quick right turn.

And I think he's really really happy with the way that they've been able to each week be ready to go.

They haven't laid an egg yet, probably since the opener.

Yeah, And I appreciate his tone because it's not overly enthusiastic.

I think we've noticed the last few weeks that despite winter loss, he's trying to maintain that even keel mentality because it's reflecting in the locker room too.

They understand that, yes, we can enjoy these wins, but there's still a lot of more work left to do in this season.

And he's like he's.

He's genuinely happy for his players.

Yes, and they know that.

He WAPs everyone up after the game and every player that says a.

Lot, you know, where he's not even keel my opinion.

Yeah, so what was the final play that put it out of reach?

A Henderson run where they got a first down and so that they could take a knee.

As soon as that's in the bag, headset off down the line to everybody, big smile, ear to ear.

So they go into the tunnel and which is his thing to do, congratulates everybody, not just the players but the staff.

That's where he's and then he's got an unbelievable ability after all that to bring it down to the media and just yes, good game.

I'm really proud like you guys, and yeah, I think.

That's really interesting.

So that was a coach that's here for players, and you might be surprised at the late edition player that we had at the end, maybe not surprised at what he has to say.

A little teas for you there.

Yeah, I think just a quick turn around.

The goal of these Thursday night just come up with a win, and that's what happened.

Things were looked back on, you know, could have didn't have much time to prepare for some things that I could.

You look back at myself and you know which I had plays back.

But at end of the day, it's probably these guys for the effort the win, and that's the best thing about Thursday night.

You get a weekend to catch up on some some rest and some uh heel up, but fell His fans were awesome, you know.

I think it was pretty sweet for the prime time game here for my first one at home.

Pretty sweet.

And then uh yes, I'd be one a couple of games in a row.

Now that we've heard the the m v P chance for Drake, just as a teammate, what's your reaction when you heard.

Us, Shoot, he's my MVP man.

I I love him to death as a player, obviously, I love him to death as a person.

He's my guy.

I'll go to bat for him, you know, wherever you know he wants.

I love competing with him, love playing with him, and just loved being on this team with him.

Very proud of the guys.

Short week, we knew what it was, get recovered, get moved on to the.

Jets, and I thought we had great focus.

All week and it showed tonight, Tray.

Because anything surprised you about your personal success, this team success during this run surprised you that you didn't know about yourself, and also as you start toneel the playoffs here, what are the top things that you're looking on improving?

Nothing easy to surprise me.

When you put the work in and we've got good players and good coaches, you know you're gonna get a result that you want.

And obviously there's this results this season that you know, some losses and you build from that and learn from it and try to learn that every week.

And uh, you know, I think were enjoy the weekend and get ready for you know, next one on Sunday.

I think I think it's since he since he Yeah, so just trying to say one week at a time.

You just play at an elite level right now.

Uh, you know, biased, but I think he's best player in the NFL.

Uh.

You know, there's no game that we're out of and we have him.

Uh, and you know, he's just even though how good of a player is, he's an even better person and an even better teammate.

So that just makes it that much more cool, uh, to you know, be able to share the huddle in the locker room.

Uh and be friends with somebody like that.

Uh.

And you know, I just you know, look forward to the future and just continue to play with him and grow with them, and as we all continue to grow in this offense.

And you know, he's got everything in front of him and I'm super excited to be.

A part of my favorite By the way, so team Campbell, that's excite Patriot fans.

I think you got a quarterback who's twenty three years old, first round pick, a tackle go to Celtics games together.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

That's that odes well for the future.

That bodes well for the future.

Yeah, there you go.

Anything else standing out to you guys from the post game sound?

I mean, everyone obviously very happy Hunter Henry, that's my guy, MVP of cour If you didn't say that, I think would be concerned obviously.

Just I think they're all probably excited to get maybe a day or two off and get away from it and just kind of catch their breath for a second.

That's my big takeaway.

And Releaf, Yeah, you know they made it.

Yeah, they won the battle of preparation, Paul, wouldn't you say that was a big thing that Mike said.

They made it to the preparation.

It was important for them, you know, like I don't like to me the Thursday night games at home or must wins.

They're very rare that the road team wins, especially as you move on later in the season and you get tired.

So I think you this was this was a good performance.

I know that I sound like I'm maybe a little bit higher on the performance tonight than most.

I don't think that game was ever in doubt, not for not for a second.

Mike Hint did it one thing that I didn't put in there.

But I thought it was interesting and I hope that maybe we take a little deeper dive into it for the do your job on the Sports Performance team.

But they had a plan, he said, mapped out for every single guy and what they were going to do this week, meaning that they didn't want Fred Kirsch to come in and say, I need a massage.

But Morgan Moses was already on the table that Fred Kirsch knew that this was his time for a massage.

Because Morgan Moses is going to be at this time and they had it all lined up for everybody on the team.

You're getting a massage, I don't think so hypothetical.

He's the hype man.

The hype man's gotta stay loose.

I definitely want to get on that table.

You deserve it been here.

Well.

Campbell actually also said that he was he didn't think he liked the short turnaround.

He goes, I admit it, I'm a young kid, but I like the short turner, and he goes.

My guess is Morgan Moses probably feels a little.

Bit different than idea.

The older guys, this is going to be a good weekend for them.

Just I hope, like Christians said, they do sleep in and they don't you know, some of these young guys like to then run like, okay, let's go have a good time, go to.

A college game.

Is on the sidelines, candle ends, but just just relax, yeah, just do you think part of the theme though coming up is like they're gonna be the toast of the NFL over the next three days, Like you're gonna get a game and you know, the first team.

To win nine games.

They did it in front of everybody right now.

Now, does it become a little bit about managing expectations and not listening to the hype because Drake.

May m VP.

All these things are going to get louder this weekend when you have all these pregame shows on Sunday morning that this is what they're going to be talking about.

It's a different challenge for Mike and the staff.

Don't you think I would have guessed that by the way back in July that they're gonna have to temper expectations after eleven and all, you know, and.

Tell the players, Hey, everything you hear this weekend, don't don't necessarily buy into it there.

First Sunday where they can actually be home and watch those games too, and hear everything that's been said over the last few.

Weeks, and you know, be smart, make good decisions.

Yeah, I mean the other part of it was tell I always.

Tell the story.

I always tell the story.

When Belichick was coaching the Browns, he was good friends with Will McDonough from the Globe and uh, it was the buye Uh, I guess the bye was earlier or something like that.

And so, no, it wasn't it was it was right it was right after.

Yeah, it was right after Mini camp.

So it was in the summer, and Bill invited McDonough over it in Nantucket to play golf.

So they're teeing off and Bill's, you know, addressing the ball and he's about about to hit it, steps back and just starts like mcdonne's like, Bill, what's what's the matter?

It's like, no matter what you tell him, you know they're going to go out and get in trouble, like you know, you never know, and he's just that's all he could think about with the free time.

The other part of it for me too, is just maintaining this team energy through a weird few weeks.

You're going to have now schedule a little bit of a long break till the next game.

Then you got a little bit of a long break again on Monday Night football, right.

Then you've got a bye week where you're going to get away from it.

So it's kind of a sporadic schedule over the.

Next few weeks.

Can they keep this momentum rolling?

I mean in some degree, Yeah, game every Sunday one o'clock.

You know, they really did a good job this Thursday short turnaround.

They were able to prepare for it.

But you know, it's just something to think about mentally, kind of staying in the mode.

And you know, it just brings me back to seven when they went on that run, and you know, because they had so much talent, they made it look easy.

But toward the end of the season.

It wasn't easy.

There were a lot of games that were they weren't all blowouts.

Yeah, you know, Dolphins, Green Bay, I think Philadelphia that that Giants game the last game of the season, and it was a grind.

And afterwards when they lost that game, you know, it came out and they said, you know we did probably not you know, we probably did take it.

I don't know what.

Uh, the pressure pressure, like we let the pressure get to us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So just to add to what Mike is talking about how it's going to be, you know, a little bit of an odd schedule, it also coincides with the first stretch on paper of difficult games, like they really they had the Buffalo game and they had the Tampa game.

They were kind of one offs.

Now they have on paper.

I'm not telling you any of these teams are like world beaters, but Cincinnati, the Giants, and then Buffalo Baltimore.

So you have three out of four and I don't care what Cincinnati's record is.

That's a talented day can board qu That's three out of four where you will likely be tested.

You haven't had that yet, ye, you know, like it's been Buffalo and six weeks later Tampa or whatever it was.

In between those two games.

That's it.

You know, in terms of teams that were, you know, more talented than you you know, these teams either are less talented or even than the Patriots that you've been playing week after week.

So that's a different.

Challenge and they're going to have to play better.

Paul, Okay, they've won eight straight, that's terrific, but they haven't especially I think in the last couple of weeks looked really sharp, and I think this schedule challenge that they've got coming on, how do they keep sharp when the competition is going.

To get better.

That's going to be the challenge for the staff.

I think, all right, quickly before we go, let's get to the few calls we have left.

Everyone's happy right now, Kevin in sanfran.

You're up, Hey, guys, Gal, how are we doing?

Hey?

Good?

No questions, just a couple of comments.

Paul actually laid out earlier in the week about how many of these games on Thursday nights are very close.

So we'll take the win, good, good finish.

I would like to see them be a little stronger offentually in the second half, but we'll take the win.

One of the things that was said today one of Paul's shows was that Rabel came to the Patriots because of his love for the team, et cetera.

Felger that it was solely because of Drake May, and tonight in the postgame show on Prime they asked him specifically, what was the reason for coming to New England and he said, without hesitation, Drake May.

So we're gonna have to listen to said that.

Rabel did say that, Yeah, so we're gonna have to listen to Felger gloat tomorrow.

But you don't have to listen to it.

You don't have.

So no I will because I'm addicted.

No, and that I don't really see, Like doesn't that make sense?

Like, like I'm deciding between two jobs.

One has nobody at quarterback at the time, they didn't even have justin fields at the time, and the other has Drake May and.

The Raiders didn't have anybody at the time.

Those were the only two jobs he was he was weighing his options, the Jets and the Patriots.

Yeah, but you know, I asked you this week about the Raiders.

Why why wasn't Tim in on that?

Yeah?

And maybe no quarterback thing.

That's maybe he looked at that as well and said, they don't have anybody.

As far as I know, I don't even know that he even inquired about the Raiders.

But we never heard that when he was hired.

No, no, but he he mentioned it in his pre is opening press conference about Drake May and his ability, and he was asked about May.

I never heard him say I came here because of Drake mayn.

I never heard him say that.

I'm actually, to be honest, very surprised that he would say that.

And I mean he also said when he came here for his Hall of Fame induction that it isn't like here, it isn't like this everywhere.

And that was before Drake May was here.

I mean, I do think there is some nod to you want it to be here.

I agree, But that said, if Jacoby Brissett was the quarterback, he'd be he'd be the head coach somewhere else.

In my opinion, I mean.

What like, I mean, how many times we got to talk about you need a quarterback?

They got an uber talented kids sitting there, like, but.

The reason why I'm kind of interested in this, in this thing, is because when Rabel took the job, I mean, we didn't know that Drake May was going to be this good this year.

All the way to August.

But hearing that, noy, did anybody know that?

But no, no, he didn't.

He knew he was talented.

He didn't say he knew he was going to be this good.

Well, I mean he came here because he thought he had a quarterback.

Yeah, well he had the talents at quarterback.

Yes, a good young quarterback.

Not Ryan Tannehill.

I think both things can be true.

Yeah, yeah, let's go to g in North Carolina.

I think Ryan Tannehill played like this for him.

Yeah, he probably said I got a guy that can do that.

I mean Ryan Tannehill had like a one to twenty two passer rating for a season with when Rabel was there with Arthur Smith THEFC Championship, he probably looked at that as I think he's even better than Ryan Tannehill.

I can win with that kind of quarterback.

Yeah, all right in North Carolina, Europe sleeping all right, and Ivan last, but not Leaf in California.

Hi, I am.

I think you guys are going to need a buye after tonight.

And we will have.

I'm looking forward to my Red Zone Sunday.

I'm sure you are a.

Live camera of you watching Red Zone.

Yeah, there you go.

That's a thought.

Thanks for calling.

I love.

Love I mean, I'll tell you one of the things I love about this team is that it's it's it's really fun and enjoyable to root for.

I mean, obviously, based on Livening we've been through at nine to two, no one ever anticipated this.

I mean, to me, I said, I think I said it before one of the earlier times I've called is that I'm enjoying the ride very much.

At the same time, you know, I think the lack of running game and you know, letting offenses just run down on our throat every single time on the first series after they're obviously wanting to not let that happen.

I think it's going to come back to bite him.

But in the meantime, the future, not only the present, but the future is very very bright.

I mean, super super impressed with not only Drake's talent, but just his attitude and how he goes about it, you know, and how about short arms and his and his demeanor?

Right, how do you how do you like those short arms?

Now there with good old Will Campbell.

Right, We're in a good.

Spot and so it's it's fun.

So appreciate the opportunity to be able to share it with you guys, and have a great night, all right.

Yeah, I love listening to camera like I love playing with this guy and part of being part of this future with you know, growing with him and being I love it.

I love it.

I would die for him and I love it.

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