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The New England Patriots back at to Lette Stadium after a strong free game win on the road for in a row already and the team, as you know, stands at five and two.

So we are excited to see what comes from today's game against the Cleveland Browns.

Of course, Paul Parillo's here, Mike do so, I'm Kwannie Lunis.

Thank you guys for joining us.

A little throwback.

The Giants not yeah, you know, it was just it was getting too much the Giants after that collapse.

We're not even gonna talk about that.

That messed up my my key my six pack.

By the way, too, you went six and oh wait no oh did I pick the You picked the Giants?

Get into that.

We'll get into it was a good cover six and on the six pack.

Can't believe in this card.

Beginner's luck, guys, beginners luck.

But off the top, I think the biggest conversation is Miles Garrett.

We'll get into that as well.

Yeah, I told you guys, I'm scared already.

I'm not even playing in this game.

But let's talk about the inactives before we get into the nitty gritty of the game, so that we can know who will be playing and who won't.

So well, I think the big one off the top is just Kyle Duggart, who you know was injured and just continues a streak of the safeties have been banged up.

Craig Woodson mispractice on Wednesday, was able to come back, but now you're going to have him hopefully he's healthy, able to go wire to wire.

Jalen Hawkins has been battling a hamstring injury, so you know, Kyle Dugger stepped up the last couple of games and played a bunch of snaps for them, and now he's banged up, so that rotation kind of continues.

Your back I think today to who the starting two guys were, But you just hope that those guys are healthy and then not limited in any way.

You know, to be honest, this isn't a Browns offense is going to try to push the ball down the field too much on these guys.

But still I think it's big for them to be able to, you know, come up, make tackles and the big and Dougger.

I mean, I agree with you, it's not a huge deal because of the limited offense that you're facing, but you would like to have Dougger's I think physicality against the running game if they get Quinn Shawn Judkins going.

But you know you can't have it all.

Jalen Hawkins back in there, you know, Craig Woodson, you know back in there too, is a name on this inactive list that you know sort of stood out a little bit, just not really happening for the guy in his third year.

You get off to a quick start last year in Cincinnati, with the you know the multiple sack then well you have three sacks of three and a half sacks in that game and really just hasn't been able.

He's not a pass rusher per se.

I think he's more of a well rounded defensive lineman.

Buddy.

This is three different coaching staffs now, Mike, and it hasn't really clicked for Keyon White yet.

This is as healthy as scratch as.

You can be.

It wasn't even on the injury report during the course of the week, So I think that's an interesting name to be included among the inactives.

Yeah, a little bit back and forth with him and Infondy Jennings and if either one of those guys is really carved out a full time role.

I just think we talked about a lot this offseason.

You got in, you saw them add these two defensive vents Harold Landry Klaven Chase On.

Those guys have been pretty solid for you, but you just don't have much depth behind them.

I'm not sure if Jennings or White really true fit what they're trying to do.

But we'll see if those guys, maybe somebody can continue to emerge, maybe Elijah Ponder the rookie.

They just went and you know, brought in this kid Caleb Murphy this week, who's also on the inactive's list, probably still getting them to speed.

Mike Rabel said, he's fourth down guy.

He's had experience on fourth down, So I don't know if there's any kind of real uh, you know, just third piece in this rotation right now, and that's a spot that as the trade as the trade deadline comes up in the coming weeks, I think it's a position to maybe keep an eye on a third piece that you can really trust on every downs at defensive end would be a nice ad for this team.

Agree, And we had the callers in post game already talking about the playoffs, but the reality is you're gonna want depth when you do get to that point in the season.

I think we all, like my heart dropped when it looked last week like Harold Landry got hurt.

Yes, he does so much for that.

He's such an important part both against the run in against the past, so he you know, was a little bit limited, but he's back out there, so hopefully they can keep those guys upright.

It's not unheard of.

I always go back to twenty fourteen.

I think I was freaking out the whole season long when they had Rob Ninkovich and Chandler Jones playing pretty much every snow out the whole season long.

They were able to make it all the way to the super Bowl and win it with that.

So, you know, sometimes you can thread that needle.

But when you look at areas on the roster where depth could be a problem, defensive end, outside linebacker, that's a big spot.

And I just last point helps a little bit with that as well.

Since he's been out.

Yeah, no real, no real big names on the Cleveland injury report, the one just in terms of the drama and and sort of the you know, the excitement of the game.

Sanders is not active.

I guess he had.

They listed him where they added him to the injury put with a back injury.

They promoted old friend Bailey Zappy from the practice squad, and Sanders is inactive.

I thought there was a chance that if the Patriots got a lead today you might see Sanders play a little bit, but that won't happening.

For as a just I just want to mention real quick.

I'm on Twitter and there's some you know, unfortunate news out of New York for the Jets, Nick mangle long time you know, center passed away, very very sudden.

I guess you know the just seeing a quote here from Woody Johnson.

Nick was more than a legendary center.

He was the heartbeat of our offensive line for a decade in A beloved teammate whose leadership and toughness to find an era of Jets football off the field.

Nick's wit, warmth, and unwavering loyalty made him a cherished member of our extended Jets family.

So the Jets in the NFL at large mourning the loss of what, by all accounts just a great, great guy and Nick Mangold.

So I'm not really sure what you know, how that came about, if you know what, but too young, no, absolutely too young.

Terrible news part of that Jets team when you know, under Rex Ryan, when they were you know, making some making a push on the Patriots twenty nine, two thousand nine eleven those years.

Sad to hear, sad to hear.

I would just found out that he died of complications of kidney disease.

So, like you mentioned, forty one years.

Old, so way too young, terrible he was.

He was a great player.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really saw who's the tackle that was with them?

I was the Brickish the Brickisheff Ferguson.

That one of the all time great names.

They brought those guys in and really without you know, Mark Sanchez a couple of years when gave the Patriots a lot of problems.

But uh, now that's that's a terrible, a tough way to start off the day.

And Ohio native, I'm sure sure.

Yeah, Mike Rabel guy as well.

Yeah, well, thank you for sharing that.

So we should also add in addition to talking all about the inactives, they had two roster elevations as well, with yeah Terrell, Terrell Jennings.

And Richie Grant, Richie Grant safety safety depth as well.

Who stands out you most?

Yeah, well it's got to be Terrell Jennings.

I just you know, last week you heard in the locker room we found our five minutes back.

Torell Jennings got some carries at the end of kind of you know, in garbage time to run the clock out.

I joke with Paul this week on Patriot Unfilter, I'm like, I'm not sure that means like you're getting a big role in the game just yet, but again, you know, if they were to have the opportunity.

I think though the way the game started to unfold last week with Ramandre having some room, looked like he was having a day.

We've seen that happen a few times over the course of his career when it's it's on for him.

But you know what I thought was most interesting, Paul maybe was in Mike Rabel's film breakdown talking about the touchdown that Remandre had where he was kind of stuck the ball out a little bit, and Mike Rabel pointed that out and said, you know, this isn't stuff we're going to do.

So even in you know, success last week, a good week for Mandre, especially in the first half, you see Mike Rabel still pointing out moments where we need to point everything out.

I want to say the Carolina game on Hunter Henry's touchdown down the sideline and you know he got a little loose with the ball toward the goal line, same kind of thing, and I believe when he did the film breakdown for All Access, Mike Rabel pointed it out for Hunter Henry as well.

So that is something that was a huge huge staple for Belichick.

He was very anti reaching the ball out of the goal line.

Talked about the risk reward thing, and you know, if you the risk is generally if that fumble happens, it's going in the end zone and it comes out and the other team gets the ball, like you don't even have to you know, have the other team recover it.

So that's something that he probably heard for years from from Belichick and he's been a stickler for it.

So something to keep an eye.

On, Yeah, for surely.

So let's get into the keys of the game.

I think let's do it all week for the whole teams in the locker room right now, just listening to this, waiting to hear what you're going to say.

Here are this week's keys to the game?

All right, drum roll please, he's to the games.

You're going to kick it up.

Yeah, sure, So mins don't get sloppy.

And I think that to me is you've had a you know, other than that Pittsburgh game where they turned the ball over five times.

I mean you had one against the Bills, you have one against the Raiders, and otherwise you've had four games where you haven't turned the ball over.

I think it's been a huge part of the formula for being successful.

I just you can't regress today.

You can't give this Browns team extra possessions.

Uh.

You got to be safe with the ball.

Starts with you know, Drake May under center, making good decisions, knowing when to when the down is dead, when it's time to you know, maybe just take a sack or whatever it might be.

But the biggest key to me today is be clean with the ball.

Continue that.

It's been a huge key for them.

Yeah, and mine is go the extra Miles.

See what I did there and why Eliot So as as Mary kay Cabot gets settled in here, who will be our guest for behind enemy lines?

Miles Garrett is the best player on the field today, absolutely, and I did.

The Patriots just simply cannot allow him to control the game and wreck the game.

My guess is Josh McDaniels will devote a little bit more than just one guy to make sure that he is not in Drake May's face throughout the ball game.

But he is a guy capable of causing turnovers, wreaking havoc.

I have so much respect for his all around game that front for Cleveland is legit.

Make sure that Myles Garrett doesn't come out of this game with, say, you know, two and a half sacks and stripsack and you know that kind of stuff, because I think those free points for Cleveland would keep the Browns in the game.

And we're gonna talk to Mary Kay in just a second about him being hungry for those sacks.

But before we do, minus the opposite of the end of the ball, plug the gaps, because obviously we're all focused on the defense.

We know that Cleveland's defense is going to be looking for Drake May and trying to stop his game.

But I think with any game, you want to make sure it's balanced.

I talked about this last week, making sure that the defense also whatever runs that Cleveland does try to have and whatever scoring they try to attempt, make sure you're stopping them as fast as you can.

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Good to have you back.

When when was that Paul was like twenty twenty one, I think was the last name.

Maybe you were in our studio.

Yeah, the Mac john here, Mac Jones, oh my goodness.

And the Patriots actually won that game big Well, you didn't know at the time just how much Baker Mayfield was dealing with shoulder day and that was that was a big part of that game.

But yeah, okay, one of the all time greats right here.

Yes, I'm well aware.

Sure, thank you for respect.

Mary your preview of this game.

I was telling them earlier that I'm scared of Miles Garrett, but mainly because of your article about the fact that he'd mentioned trying you know, he winks up players, the quarterback specifically when he's trying to intimidate them.

But you also mentioned at the end of your article about how he's trying to add to his graveyard of quarterbacks essentially, and Drake may having the success right now clearly is one that he's targeting.

So from your conversations, what do you expect from him today?

Well, first of all, the graveyard is a real thing.

Miles every Halloween decorates his yard with tombstones, no more scared of all the quarterbacks that he has sacked.

So he would love to add Drake May to the yard.

And so Drake is going to have to try to make sure that doesn't happen, and his blockers are going to have to try to prevent that as well.

But I think that's going to be a key to the game, of course, what the Patriots can do to Miles and what Miles can do to beat that.

And he's hungry.

I mean, he is really raring to go.

They're excited to play this young quarterback who is off to such a rousing, rousing start.

They want to get him off that mark.

They want to rattle him, and they.

Can do it from the interior and the exterior.

And that's what the problem is going to be for him.

They're going to have to try to find a way to block up some guys that are playing really, really well on the inside and on the outside.

The guy to watch on the inside for the most part is Malik Collins.

He's having a really really good season.

He's a savvy veteran.

He's making it very difficult on quarter.

Yeah, along those lines too, I mean Mason Graham, the rookie that you guys brought in.

It just seems like they've got a whole rotation of those front four and they're cycling guys in and everybody's pretty disruptive.

I mean, is that the heartbeat of this defense?

Those front four getting pressure, making disruption happen.

Yes, that is the engine of this defense, There's no question about it.

But those guys, when they are cooking, they make it nice and easy for the guys in the back end to roam around and make some really nice plays.

And if you saw what they did last week against the Dolphins, the secondary got three takeaways three interceptions, so it was a four takeaway game for the Browns, who traditionally have been a little barren in that regard.

So, yeah, the rush and the coverage have been working really well together.

So the problem for Cleveland has been obviously the other side of the ball.

It's still in Gabriel now rookie you know, finding his way, hasn't turned the ball over, but haven't been a lot of big plays.

What has the offense looked like with him?

What are the differences I guess with Gabriel from them what it was at the in September with Joe Flacker.

Well, the story of.

This Cleveland Browns football team right now is they have an excellent defense, of course, and they've got quin Shawn Judkins running the ball really well.

They're rookie running back out of Ohio State.

What they don't have right now is a passing game.

They virtually have no passing game, and that's been the.

Whole entire problem.

They're not scoring points.

When they do score points, like last week, it was because the takeaways led to twenty one points.

There was a pick six and there was another almost pick six.

So the offense is definitely points challenged.

Dylan Gabriel is passing in points challenge, and if they don't get that turned around in a hurry, then the Browns are gonna end up having to put Shador Sanders into the game sooner than they want to.

Now.

Shador is not playing today.

He's inactive for this game with some backtightness.

Your old friend Bailey Zappi is QB two today.

It'll be really interesting to see if Bailey gets in the game.

He knows this team fairly well.

He knows the Browns offense really well, and so he actually probably could make them hay.

But Dylan needs to get things going, especially with his veterans David Nijoku and Jerry Judy.

Those guys need to kind of come up off the mat and make some plays for the rookie QB and.

Mike I will keep Najoku in my life.

Is well you mentioned that though you have the veterans and then you've got the rookies with Fannin and Judkins, and you know, how is that all coming together for these rookie quarterback A couple rookie pieces, couple veteran pieces.

Do they have optimism that they can start to click and find to find their stride?

Yes, but it's a work in progress.

These guys are so young and they're finding out when they go up against a lot of these veteran defenders, they're not always winning the contested catch.

Dylan isn't necessarily taking the shots he needs to take to kind of open this offense up a little bit.

He really needs to do that.

If it's there, he's got to take it.

And then on the other end they have to catch the ball.

The Browns lead I believe the NFL with eighteen drops so far this season.

So Jerry's been dropping passes, David has dropped some.

Harold, who's a very very nice secure pass catcher, he's dropped some passes as well, So that's been a problem.

I think it's a function of they had a four way quarterback competition training camp.

There hasn't been any continuity.

Now Dylan is also lefty that might change things up a bit, so it's been a challenge.

I'm sure they're riding high off that win against Miami.

Granted they're a one in sixteen, so I think you take that with a grant of salt.

But what do you think they will try to take from that win here at Foxborough today?

Well, I think, first of all, the takeaways and as you guys know, Drake May does not throw interceptions, so they're going to try to get him to do that.

They're going to try to rattle him into making some mistakes.

They're also going to try to sack him and probably kind of rough him up a little bit and make him hear some footsteps.

And he has been sacked.

I believe his.

Twenty two are tied for second in the NFL.

So you know that Miles Garrett is going to be on the prowl, and of course there are two rookie offensive linemen that are going to have their hands full today.

So I think that's the key to the game for the Clear Browns is to get Drake May off of his mark, try to get him rattled a little bit, and.

Also for some fumbles.

Mary Kay, I'm interested in your take.

You mentioned the four way quarterback battle and nationally that's been you know, a story, you know, just how that whole quarterback thing unfolded.

I'm interested in your first hand accounts of what you saw in the summer and what you expect to see going forward with how this is going to all play out.

Well.

First of all, I think the idea was for Kenny Pickett to win that four way quarterback competition, but he suffered a severe hamstring injury on the fourth day of training camp and it just threw a monkey wrench into all the plans.

He was really supposed to be the bridge quarterback this year and it just didn't work out.

They ended up trading him to the Raiders, and then they installed Joe Flacco as the starter.

Now, Joe in this offense, it just wasn't working out.

It's predicated on a lot of quarterback movement, keepers, RPOs, called runs, different things like that.

It wasn't Joe's kind of game.

And then also they had tackle problems, so he really didn't have the time that he needed to get the ball downfield, and he turned the ball over eight times, and it was just time for them to go in another direction.

Now you see Joe excelling for the Bengals.

Nobody's overly surprised about that.

And Dylan is still having a hard time with the passing game here.

I think they'll stick with Dylan for a while and then if he doesn't generate the offense that they need him to at some point they'll.

Turn it over to Shador May.

Oh no, just just want more for me.

You know, Mike Frabele was with you guys last year in Cleveland, spoke so highly of just the whole organization giving him that opportunity, you know, learning a little bit about the offensive line.

Just you know, what was your impression last year having Frabel around, and you know, did the guy has already mentioned this week of you know, the impact he maybe made when he was around last year.

Tons of mention of the impact that Mike Frabel had on that football team last year.

Of course he's an Agron native.

One of the first things I asked him in the interview that we were able to do with him at the Greenbrier prior last season was did he eat dog bones.

As a kid?

And he said yes, he did, so you know he has that badge of honor as a Cleveland Browns fan.

So clevelanders absolutely loved Mike Rabel.

Of course Ohio State, Akron and all those kinds of things.

So it was great to have him around, and he established a toughness.

He brought that tough as nails Mike Rabel vibe to the Cleveland Browns and those guys still.

Talk about that.

Well.

Mary Kay, we could talk to you to you for hours, as you can tell, but thank you so much for your time.

Where can we find you online?

Right there.

At Mary Kacabot on Twitter and then everything's at Cleveland dot com, so it's all there.

Before you get head back up to the press box.

You have a prediction for.

The Yes, I actually picked the Browns to win this game really in an upset because of the strength of their defense.

I don't know how they're going to score any points.

It would have to be the defense.

Scoring some point, which happened last week.

But I picked up I just thought that perhaps maybe the Patriots were right for a.

Little bit of an upset, so I went with that.

Sounds like.

Thanks for having me, Thanks Mary Cash.

No, that's the formula, right that they're going to need to set up Dylan Gabriel to put some points on the board the way they did for Miami, you know, because that's how they got all their points against Miami.

At some point, do you have anything in the back of your mind might that you worry about?

Drake May is like how many these four games in a row without a pick?

Well, hearing Mary Kay be like, Drake May doesn't turn the ball over, I'm like that this has been a great development this year.

But what we saw, you know, last year, was they called him to.

To day May last year and it was like this year he's been really really good with the ball.

The fumbles.

To me, I'm a little bit more worried about today.

Last week, there were three different times where the ball sort of got knocked loose from Drake May.

They didn't lose that.

I don't know if they were any even any of them were official fumbles and they didn't lose any of them.

But that's something to keep an eye on.

And right now we see Drake May warming up.

We just talked about him the QB gearing up.

The weather's pretty nice outside.

Well, you know, we love to tell you about whether it's.

It's gorgeous football, it's goudious all day.

It's you know, this is this is the time of year you love just walking into the stadium and you know, smelling the grills and all the fans getting hyped up.

And you know, let's talk a little bit about the Patriots coming home today, and that's a big thing we heard them talk about all week making this a tough place to play.

I mean, last time we saw this team, we didn't really know which way this direction this season was going.

They pulled out a big win at Carolina.

It felt great to get that win at home.

But now you come back after three wins on the road, these fans should be fired up.

This is a Browns team that you have an opportunity to move to six and two on the season.

You got to play well, though, and that's what you know.

I'm excited talking to other people, just excited to see a new challenge for Drake May.

This is definitely the best defense everybody's been saying it that they've seen so far.

You know, we've been pumping up Miles Garrett left and right.

But good new challenge for this offense going against this Cleveland defense.

And you know, I think we all kind of see it the same way.

They got to move the ball, They got to score points, but they got to be safe and they can't give Cleveland short fields and set them up for easy points and all that kind of stuff you do that it's going to be a game, but it should be a great day for football here.

I was interested in the way that Mary Kay talked about Dylan Gabriel and his sort of unwillingness to try to push the ball downfield.

And I think that could be a big thing too.

That it's one thing to have sort of a limited offense, but if it's because he's like a lot of rookie quarterbacks and it is unwilling to sort of take some chances, and you know, the NFL open is not the same as College Open, and maybe he's just not trusting what he sees.

It's not a great receiving core.

Jerry Judy is by far their most accomplished receiver.

Mary Kay just explained he's had trouble with drops this season.

But all it takes is one day, like you know, I'm not asking them to go like the next you know, ten twelve weeks and all of a sudden become an explosive offense.

But can they be a little bit better offensively than they've been for one day?

You know, maybe this is why focused on the Patriots defense today.

Can they make one of these limited offenses look limited, you know, come out from the start of the game and dominate, not the way it's been you know, the you know for the first seven weeks of the season where the other team is looks really good offensively to start the game.

Yeah, we're going to talk a little bit more about that Patriots defense and how they can match up against Cleveland.

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We were talking about how scary this Cleveland defense is looking right now for the Patriots.

But I think that we talked earlier, right before the break, how we want this Patriots defense to be just as scary today.

I do.

I mean, I think you're gonna know it pretty quick, like it's looked the same last couple of weeks with you know, young quarterbacks, first time starting quarterbacks, and they're completing all their passes.

They don't look disruptive.

Thought it was telling this week when Mike were able to just, you know, simply say we've got to do a better job disrupting quarterbacks.

And you know, I think we got off to such a hard start and it's easy to look at mill Williams, Christian Barmore and be like, these guys have been really disruptive.

Calebon Chase on wins AFC Defensive Player of the Week last week for you know, his performance.

So they have had some splash plays, but I don't think that they've been consistently disruptive enough, especially on early downs, which Mike Rabel has asked directly about.

And you can tell that it's an issue that they're discussing, you know, even the defensive coaches who talked this week getting on the field, getting a fast start, you know, forcing that first punt.

It can't look as easy as it looked the last couple of games where the other team just you know a lot of them point to when teams come out, this is what they've schemed up this is what they've looked at all week and said, these are the plays we know are going to give them problems.

They're coming out, they're running those plays and they're having a lot of success with them.

So how can Zach Krer Patriots defensive staff be ready for that kind of stuff?

Counter at early force an early punt.

I mean, that's you want to set up the game for success today.

Defer, get them off the field, go down and score seven to nothing.

You know you're getting the ball back after halftime and you're going to have a real stronghold on the game.

Yeah.

I mean, and you had the numbers, Mike about the early downs as a compete, you know, the differences in the defensive performance when they can get you in thore and long.

Yeah, they're at the top of the league even second and long.

You know, but they're just allowing too many yards.

And Rabel said it this week, Zach core said it last week.

They're allowing too many yards on early downs and they're they're they're allowing teams to stay ahead of the chains.

And when they're able to get you behind the chains, they've been very effective when they they can dictate the way.

It's It's the age old thing.

You know, when you can dictate the way you want to play defense, it's same on offense.

If you can, you know, maintain your balance of running pass and you're not predictable, you're going to have more success.

This is why I want to see the Patriots defensively today make a bad offense look bad.

And they really haven't done that.

I know that people are like, but what are you complaining about.

They're in the top five and scoring, and you know their third down to the numbers are all great.

They've played a lot of really bad offenses that have played about as well as they're capable of playing.

The one performance defensively that I thought was was encouraging was that Buffalo.

I thought that they were okay that night against a team that is capable of scoring more than it did.

I mean that's a team that averages thirty a game and they only had twenty that night.

But Tennessee, I mean that's Tennessee played as well offensively as they're capable of playing.

Last week.

You know, they didn't like hold them, you know, behind any any of their performances previously, they they're one of the worst ranked offenses in football.

And oh, by the way, you have another one of those today.

They're all thirty two and thirty one depending on where you look.

Tennessee and Cleveland the worst two offenses in football.

It's there's weird statistical anomalies this year where it does.

It's like, you know, and there are only certain things I like.

You know, points is a big one, and you know, they're they're really good at points.

They're fifth in the league.

But you know DVOA, which is a stat that I like, which measures adjust to the opponent and the situation.

How successful are you in these on these downs adjusted to the at least they're twenty eighth, you know, So there is something there, and I think this is where you get to this is a Patriots team.

You're starting to believe has something.

And so now we're getting serious about talking to the defense and yeah, they you know, look at points and that stuff.

It looks good.

But I think there's a lot of room for that defense to grow.

And it's just it starts today.

No one's gonna give them any credit if they do shut this Browns defense down today.

But we know what's lurking a couple weeks down the road with Tampa Bay and you know, we'll see what Atlanta looks like next week, but it's gonna get tougher and they've got to be better.

Yeah, that would be a good building block.

And we can look at some of the numbers for the Browns defense yards per game two and fifty six point one.

They ranked number one when it comes to their lockdown defense, run defense eighty two point four yards allowed their ranking number four right now, So, like we mentioned off the top, the Browns really are not to be messed with.

But what are you hoping to see with Josh McDaniel's or Drake May's schemes today?

There we have the numbers right there.

Yeah, when it comes to making sure that these numbers do not succeed at.

Foxborough and I mean I just ad I said, you know, Patriots are twenty eighth and dva way that this Cleveland defense is fifth, So you know they rank very highly with these kind of standard metrics.

They also rank highly on the other metrics side.

I would say to Josh, like Paul's point, making sure that Miles Garrett is taken care of, I think that's something that you can trust.

Josh McDaniels.

Within the game plan, but they're gonna have to play well.

I mean, you know, Mary Kay mentioned Malie Collins, who's at thirty having a great year.

I mean, he's right behind Miles Garrett, and you know that such a fearsome duo.

You've got somebody off the edge who's really really good, and you've got someone inside to lead the way.

And even Mason Graham rookie, very disruptive.

So a lot of challenges for this rookie offensive lineman today.

Especially you know, I had to watch Jared Wilson line up on Elie Collins.

The way these guys line up with wide nine defensive ends, they're very spread out.

It's hard to get double teams on guys.

You know, you can chip edge guys, but it would be very easy to isolate Malie Collins on Jared Wilson, you know.

And so those are the plays where you got to be good up the middle because that's where pressure, forced fumbles, turnovers happen.

And I just would be surprised if McDaniels left these guys on an island, especially if the Will Campbell and Morgan Moses when they're dealing with with Garrett, because he's just too good to to risk that they got kind of a situation.

So I expect tight ends to be part of this.

You know.

Fred Kursh during the course of the week on Patriots Unfiltered mentioned the possibility of even having a sixth offensive lineman, which I would think would be more in run situations, but maybe even in pass protection.

Maybe they just say, why are we going to put a tight end out there.

Let's just put another tackle out there whose job it is, you know, full time job it is to protect.

Maybe they do something like that that would be out of the ordinary, but I just can't imagine that McDaniels is gonna risk having Garrett, you know, sort of blow up this game.

Yeah.

And one more thing i'd say too about the Cleveland defense is you know, they had four takeaways last week against Miami.

Otherwise it's it hasn't been great.

I mean, I think the word Mary Kay usual was Barren Barren.

Yeah, and that to me, the way that they fly to the ball, they're very aggressive.

It's man defense, so I just holding onto the ball, not letting guys come in and punch it out.

I think they're going to be coming aggressively to try to get the ball, especially out of Rom Stevenson's hands.

I just that's how this defense wants to play.

That's the Jim Schwartz attitude.

Aggressive fly to the ball.

You can see it on their defense.

So I just make sure you're securing the ball again.

It just goes back to my key.

The Patriots don't turn the ball over today, I think they'll be fine.

If it's a couple turnovers, things could start to get a little dicey.

Stacy and Indiana actually emailed asking with the Browns for being one of the best in the league.

Like we just talked about, do you expect the Patriots to use more slide protection or chip help from the tight ends or running backs to help the pocket.

I just think flat double teams like chip or not.

I just can't.

You can't let Miles Garrett impact this game, you know, much like that they.

Used to do.

And you know in the old days, we had another caller talked about Houston, you know with JJ Watt.

Now, my big feeling for those games was that was all about Tom Brady and his ability to get the ball out quick, understanding where the pressure was coming from.

I don't know if you can ask Drake May to play like that.

So you're going to need to give more attention to these pass rushers and make sure that they don't they don't disrupt the game.

And you know, the one really good thing about the way the Patriots offensive resurgence over the last you know, whatever you want to call it, six weeks, they really kept the pass attempts down.

You know, I think last week they it was it was like twenty twenty attempts.

So even if you want to count the the sacks and the and the runs, you know, you're talking about thirty.

You know, they're they're baby, they're basically attempting thirty pass attempts a game.

So stay out of that forty forty five uh situation where it's a lot of obvious passing situations.

When they can pin their ears back, I think that's the key to keeping Drake May healthy today.

Or you know, upright, yes, that's the key bird up right.

All right, we're getting your calls and emails as we usually do, so we're start with our faithful Patty and agawam agawam.

I don't know I said that that way, Hi, Patty.

Hey, Patty, PAWNI, Paully, Mikey what's going on.

Hey, I'm gonna just to click aside, you know, rest in peace Mcmanngold and prayers to his family.

The Jets had a great run with Mawaii and then once Mawaii, once Tennessee they got, they struggled with Mangold and no pun intended.

But when I when I projected like who I thought was going to be going into the Hall of Fame, he was on.

He was on my list this year even before like what happened.

So that's terrible, and you know, prayers to his family.

This game, I know during the week I picked twenty seven to ten.

But I feel like this, this game could possibly get out of hand just because of you know, Mike, Mike Brabel's institutional knowledge of especially situation situationally, you know, being in Cleveland last year.

But I think we might see we haven't seen a lot of screen game this year, this year's thus far.

And I think if, like you said, Mike, if Schwartz is gonna get a little bit aggressive, I wouldn't be surprised them running a few more screens than we've seen this year.

And Polly, your guy and my guy too.

I helped the extend this guy Kayshawan Boody, this guy's fearless.

I mean if if he matches up against Ward, I don't think.

I don't think this guy's afraid to go against any cornerback in the league.

And I'm not I don't think Drake May is afraid to put the ball up beat to him against any cornerback of the league either.

No, like I said, you get some time for that.

He's not He's not a pending free agent, so you can you can deal with that next year.

I think there's more pressing needs.

But yeah, I mean, I that's I see the game in a similar way.

I just found it funny.

I was like a fretism right there.

I picked twenty to seven to ten earlier in the week.

But I think they could get out of hand, like twenty seven, not out of hand, like that's a play.

Yeah, yeah, I think they're guys.

I'll talk to you about on the post game.

Sooty.

Yeah, I thought I was just passing along a note that Mike Rees passed along from Rabel's appearance with Zoe on ninety five, saying they had Ben mcaduo put together an opening script to test the defense this week with a folks on starting faster, so along the lines of you know what we're talking about, and I just think you'll know, I think this game will declare itself pretty quick, like you'll kind of know.

Touch back to Vrabel's year in Cleveland too, I think that he might be better suited to maybe predict what Kevin Stefanski might want to do with that opening script.

It's no secret that teams have had success.

They're going to look at you know what Carolina did, what Tennessee did you know what some of these teams have done early in the games.

Maybe try to emulate some of that stuff, you know, moving the pocket a little bit with the quarterback, easy throws, you know, quick quick play actions, dumps to the tight ends to the backs.

Yeah, and try to move the ball that way.

But I think Rabel was in a better position to maybe understand what Stefanski wants to do, and that could give the Patriots a leg up today defensively.

Yeah.

Verebel also on Friday was kind of funny.

We were talking about, you know, like May picking his spots with running and he's like, yeah, I'm not sure this is the week go through.

You know, It's kind of like one two, it ain't there, get out, So they're well aware that, you know, this week there's it's not there's not going to be a whole lot of time in the pocket, even when there is a little bit of time.

So you know, we just hope Drake continues to balance picking his runs.

I love the slide and the slide and the drop.

The slide and the drop, like don't like kind of like jump and then get hit twice and slide the drop first down.

I was the one that really bothered me the most when you got high load last week and it looked like he hurt his knee a little bit.

He got up kind of like, you know, checking his knee out a little bit there, And those are the ones I think he needs to do a better job of avoiding.

Yeah, it's taking don't take.

Don't take hits, you don't need to take.

He's safe.

Nate in Connecticut.

That put the Paul along on there.

He is drew bledsoe I didn't know he said, did he was he staying with you this time.

Or you know, let me check, let me check my chest.

I haven't heard.

We hate when that happens.

You're just looking sharp though.

This looks pretty good man.

Of course.

Also, you know, shout out Lawrence guy will be ringing the bell today.

He announced retired as a Patriot.

You know, the good old l gu was a star war here for for quite a few years.

Good players faces in Foxborough.

You'll see out there.

It seems very excited.

His wife's also pregnant with twins now, so good luck with that.

Lawrence might need to come out of retirement.

Let's see what Nate and Connetic gas to say, Yes, we do, all right.

So my my opinion of today's game, I think the most important part is going to be both of our trenches, so Old line and D line.

You know, with the.

Defense that the Browns presents us, it's going to be really important that we protect Drake May and with the run game that the Browns have, it's important that we need to stop that.

You know.

Quinn Sewn Jenkins, he had a he had a good game last week.

Of course it's Dolphins, so obviously Dolphins aren't the best team, but still he's got a great set of talent that he's going to be going against us today.

And second off, key on White being a healthy scratch, you know, with him going back to draft night, he didn't have the most excited emotion or reaction to getting drafted by US.

And you know, with him being around for a while, he hasn't been I shouldn't say he hasn't been good.

It's just he hasn't seen much improvement out of him.

I don't I don't know if his time is going to be here for long, or if he's gonna stay a Patriot for a good amount of time.

I think he might go to a different team to try and you know, boost boost his talent.

I really like him as a as a player.

It's just I don't know New England's for him.

Thanks that think, Yeah, I just I just I think we kind of heard.

I mean, Paul mentioned it three different coaching staffs, but you heard the same thing from each of those coaching staffs, like trying to find his spot, trying to figure out how he fits it.

Just might be one of those classic tweiners.

Yeah, just doesn't quite you know, he's he can, I mean, he can rush over guards, he can you know, be an interior rusher.

I think there's a use there for him for sure.

But you know, they this this defense.

They asked so much to do of those edge guys, and a lot of it is just get upfield, but you know sometimes they drop them out too, So I just he's always been kind of stiff to me.

I think he would be ideal for just kind of like go get it, but it's been hard for him to beat tackles.

Like I think the length I.

Would have around scheme would have been better suited for him, but it hasn't really worked out.

And I agree with with the way Nate said it.

I just hasn't been a great fit.

It's he's not without talent.

You see flashes of ability, and the power is what stands out that that's what the coach has talked about violence, power.

He brings some of that to the table.

I just don't think he has enough versatility to get a full time role locked down.

Like you said, Mike, you're asking you're asking him at times to be over tackles.

At times.

We've seen him over power guards.

But it's like, I don't think he does any of those things well enough to warrant more playing time, and he's sort of stuck as sort of a tweeter.

Yeah, he's just I mean, Chase On's extreme example of just somebody who is twitchy and has been to him and you know, and in White seems to get, you know, if he doesn't get to be honest.

Ideally, in a perfect world, I don't think he's a full time player Chase on, but he is much better at what you're talking about, the twitchy athleticism off the edge, getting after the quarterback and you know, sometimes he gets upfield in the run game, but he forces a running back to make a decision because of his quickness and pushes it out wide.

I mean he's you know, not really I mean not on the stat sheet, but you can see his penetr caused that play to be blown up.

So it's a spot to keep an eye on, especially I mean half back for sure.

But also you know, one of those ex positions.

And we'll see how they feel about Caleb Murphy, the kid that they brought in.

I mean, doesn't sound like they have high hopes for him, but I think they at least feel like he might be a guy that fits kind of what they're trying to do.

So but they're continuing to turn things over, trying to find answers at that position.

All right, Well, time now for over unders because we're gonna find answers about whether or not we did well this past week.

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All right, Paul Parillo, where are we?

It's right on the screen already.

Yeah, Mike, Mike four to two, good, good goods.

Mike was four two, kwanty three and three.

I was two and four, so I remained in the basement.

Twenty five and seventeen for Kwannie.

Yeah, twenty four and eighteen one game bag hell for Mike, And yeah, the other guy is eighteen and twenty four about him to show or something.

Loser.

He's a loser, not.

At all good enough or smart enough.

And people like you, Paul, We're gonna affirm you every single week here.

Unfortunately, I give you guys a lot of need to have to do that because I think, sorry, all right.

We're gonna start with Drake May passing yards.

That's at two hundred and twenty two and a half yards.

Oh, I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go over on this.

Drake is just under and I'm over over.

Okay.

I just think Drake and fuego and I think he'll put the ball down the field a little bit against these guys.

I'm gonna take the under.

And the reason for that is the Cleveland Browns only allow one hundred and seventy three and change per game through the air, So I'm going to say they keep that going.

There's a big gap between one hundred and seventy three and two twenty two.

I think I can live in that.

Well.

Drake May and the rest of the quarterbacks on.

The mic drop oh no, actually wanted no.

Game last week.

Drake May have a good game last week through some through some passes.

How many yards you throw for four hundred.

I'm going to take the over on that as well.

I forget, I'll take the over.

It was the way I could understand your sentiments.

But you just make up the facts right now, you get you get me.

All right?

Up next we have Drake May pass attempts that that twenty nine and a half.

Oh that's PAULI twenty nine and a half.

I'm going to take the under.

I think they want to keep that lower the way they've done a nice job of recently.

Drake made two hundred and twenty two yards last week, by the way, two interesting, that's helf yard not so much of a problem for Paulie.

So is that half.

I'm going to take the under on this one.

Yeah, I'm with you, guys.

I think if he throws over, if he throws thirty attempts plus, I think that is where we're no one expected.

Yeah.

Up next, we have total number of field goals made that's at three and a half, and I will take the over over with conviction, Over with conviction.

Just stand with your pick.

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go over to I just I think Cleveland will kick at least a couple of them.

Yeah, I'm with you guys.

Over there we go.

I think the red zone defenses will be a little bit, but I think the Patriots red zone defense has been better as of late.

So if Cleveland gets down there, they yeah, they should be able to force the field goals.

Yeah, all right.

Up next, we have this Sean Jenkins.

Yeah, rushing yard so this would be a season high given up by the Patriots.

Mike sixty nine and a half.

Sixty nine and a half still nice because it has a half.

Sure, yeah, I mean Gronk would say so.

Thank you.

I love a sound drop.

I really like this line.

I mean, then the Drake May pass attempts, that's like, what this goes over?

It's gonna be crazy.

But Judskins, I feel like if he's you know, rushing over this, then it really might.

I give the Browns the spark of life that they desperately need.

But I'm gonna bet on the Patriots defense.

I'm gonna stay under they keep it going.

I'm gonna take the under as well, for the same reason why I took the under and Drake may passing yards Cleveland.

The Patriots haven't allowed a single fifty yard Russia all year.

I'm gonna stick with the trends.

There's a big gap between fifty and seventy.

I'm gonna I'm gonna take this three for three.

Unders, all right up next, total touchdowns four and a half.

Why did I take the.

Molly?

What do you got?

I'm gonna take the under.

I just don't see Cleveland getting any or many.

Let's put it that way.

Maybe they get one.

That would mean Patriots would have to score four.

Yeah, how I did that quick math?

In my hell, you're smart, look at you under?

You don't I'm gonna be crazy.

And go over.

Yeah, why not, sugar, that's the game I want to see.

Yeah, this is a good number.

Shoot, I'm gonna go over.

Yeah, I think I think it hit five.

This is how I end up.

Into Paul's coffin right now.

And then last but not week right, forty two and a half total score?

Do your maths, I guess I'm first, right you are?

I am?

Oh forty two and a half.

Though by four, I'm gonna take the over, taking over even though it doesn't really make sense.

Math not my.

Stronger And now I'm doing my math and it doesn't make sense.

It was a Comms major for a reason.

It doesn't make sense to my total touchdowns ur on my final score.

But I'm gonna I'm gonna go under.

On this one.

Okay, Yeah, I'm taking the under as well.

I don't believe in the Browns offense to muster much if.

If they believe in their offense either, we'll see all right.

Time now for the Sunday six pack.

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All right, how did we do last week?

Ball?

So last week Kwannie went six and oh yes, like four and two and poopy Pants again.

Was an error because didn't I take the giants and they lost one?

Oh?

They covered?

Oh okay, here, I'm trying to be honest.

She doesn't even know how I'm playing the game.

Okay, Mike, Mike, it's time to work out.

Hilarious, she's beating us and she doesn't know how to play.

Okay, I do know how to keep okay, two, she's not just winning.

By the way, twenty two and sixteen, you and I have blow five hundred, eighteen and twenty and seventeen and twenty one.

So what the sharps know?

We we stink?

But Kwanni good good, Thank you guys.

Again, Beginner's luck always hopes.

All right, I don't say, just say you're right.

You know what.

I know what I'm talking about, and I'm making good decisions.

Swammy the Prognosticator.

All right, up, first, in this week six pack, we have Miami at Atlanta.

Atlanta with seven.

And seven and a half read.

So Michael Penni is not playing, He's out, London's out, Kirk Cuz.

With no trake speaking of right on the screen.

Shoot, I'm gonna I know, stressful, stressful.

I'm gonna just take Miami.

I just think it's a close game.

How about that.

I'm gonna take Miami plus seven point five.

I'm going to take Atlanta.

I do think there's a chance that Kirk Cousins, you know.

A year removed, maybe to get traded.

Maybe maybe he comes in and just lights up a team that I think is in utter disarray in Miami.

This is more of an anti Miami pick than a pro Atlanta one, But I do think there's a chance that Kirk Cousins has a big day today.

I don't believe in the Dolphins at all, but after getting embarrassed last week by the Browns, I want to imagine they'll do better.

So that's the rationale in me picking them for this week.

But again, I don't really believe in them.

And with one pick in and I am on an island.

All right.

Up Next we have the zero and seven Jets at the Cincinnati Bengals.

Cincinnati with six Man.

So I like the Bengals with Joe Flacco.

I think that those two receivers are liking the idea of having a guy who can get the ball to them, push it downfield a little bit.

And as Flacco said, if you can't get these two guys involved, you're not doing it right.

I'm going to I'm gonna ride the Bengals.

With you on the Bengals.

Yeah, I'm going to ride the Bengals.

Yeah.

Let's let's all get on the best.

That's the one wise decision we all made today.

All right, Up next, we have the New York Giants at the Philadelphia Eagles.

Philadelphia with seven and a half.

It's a good one.

I'll take the Eagles because, yeah, about this matchup.

I just I feel like the Giants are gonna just continue to play fast and loose.

I'm gonna go with the Giants.

I still think Philly wins, but I'm gonna take the Giants.

Look all the turntables turned they have.

Yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles here.

I think there's a chance that they they win this one going away because they're gonna remember the game a couple of weeks ago that the Giants beat them, and I think that the psychological damage of losing the way the Giants did, I think could linger.

We'll see, yeah, we'll see, all right.

Up next Tampa Bay at New Orleans, Tampa four and a.

Half, mikempa Bay.

Yeah, they just I mean, they continue to cycle guys in and out, but I think they're getting a little healthy there.

For the bucks, I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna take the bucks.

I'll lay the four and a half.

Yeah.

I like the bucks in this one as well.

Tampa, I mean, New Orleans not really generating a whole lot consistently offensively.

I'll take the bucks, even though they're.

Right at home, just because so I'm on an island.

Now you go six and oh well, I gotta make risky decisions, all right.

Watching the Commanders at Kansas City.

Chiefs Kansas City with a twelve and a half.

That's a big spread.

I like Kansas City.

I like the way they're playing offensively.

I think that they're quote unquote back, but that's a lot of points Commanders getting some players back.

Looks like McLaurin and deebo are in.

I know they'll be dealing with Marcus Mariota.

But Mariota's gone into Arrowhead and beaten the Chiefs in a big game before, so I think you can keep it close enough.

I'll take Washington.

I'm gonna take Kansas City at home.

I'm thinking of the home teams now.

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna roll the dice on Kansas City too.

I just they scare me.

I hate picking against them.

Yeah, generally speaking, all right, last, but not opportunity.

No, Yeah, we'll see your way the best for last as usual.

The Cleveland Browns here at Foxborough against the New England Patriots, New England with seven on that one.

You guys know what you're up.

Up up, I'm picking the Patriots.

You're gonna pick them?

Yeah, Okay, I.

Can't remember the last time I have it now at this point, and I'm not pandering.

They better win this one.

Yeah, I got the Patriots too.

I'm gonna say Patriots twenty eight to thirteen.

Just I want to see him get off to a good start, and we'd love to see, you know, just continue to see I don't think Drake's going to complete ninety percent of his passes today, but just to see him continue to stay on this white hot heater he's been on.

It doesn't have to be perfect, but if he can just avoid any turnovers, you know, even if there's one, but just don't limit the turnovers, I think they'll be okay.

But I just let get more exciting by the week watching this kid play, and I'm just more than anything excited to see how he does against this new challenge here today.

So defense get a stop right out of the gate Patriots role.

So I think the Patriots are going to win this game.

And I don't think there's going to be very many times during the course of the day where we're frustrated and wondering, you know, why do the Patriots keep doing this?

Why do they keep letting these teams?

But I do respect the Browns defense.

I think that they will keep them in the game and they'll make it a little bit more lower scoring.

I don't think Cleveland will ever threaten to win it.

But I am going to take the points and say that the Patriots wins, say maybe twenty to six something like that, with the last score going to Cleveland, you know, not really that clob Maybe it's you know, maybe it's twenty to ten, but twenty to nine and Cleveland gets an oh, by the way touchdown a back door cover.

I don't think the Patriots will be in trouble today, but I do respect the Browns defense.

YEP.

Got to before we close out, I'm going to read one more email from Steven In for Drum New York because we didn't talk as much about the run game in this pregame show.

He says, I'll be curious to see how Henderson and Judkins will compare today after each seems to be facing a defense that feeds their skill set, Anderson in a space against hyper aggressive defenses, and of course junkins against a soft secondary.

What do you two think?

Yeah, I mean, well, I don't know how apt to compare.

I mean, these guys both went to our state.

But I mean, this is what Judkins was meant for, early down carries, pound the ball.

You know, Henderson has had a learning curve playing on third down plane against the pass and all that, so you know the use is just going to be different.

And that's, you know, part of when you chose to take this guy.

This is what you were You know, at some point Henderson's probably gonna flash and have a game.

But it's it's almost impossible to predict when it's going to be.

At this point, I'm with Mike.

I think this game is more about Stevenson in Judkins than it is Henderson and Judkins makes sense.

You know.

It's like again, I'm not giving up on Henderson, but I don't think he's in every down back.

I think he's a third down back.

He might get in space and make a player or two, but Judkins is the guy that's going to be.

You know, Cleveland wants to get him fifteen plus carries, yeah, I.

Mean, you know, and try to get Henderson in space a little bit.

You know.

I just think there's been a lot of runs with him up the middle.

I think we'd all love to I mean, they tried screen passes and they just look kind of clunky or they've gotten blown up and that kind of thing.

So I agree with Paul though, it's a matter of time until Travon Henderson breaks a play like he's too good.

But you know, you want to see some of what we saw this summer, which was, you know, in some of those preseason games, guys that you know, taking contact at the six yard line and bouncing through and getting upfield and picking up additional yards after contact.

So that's you know where I'd like to see trevon.

But it's a matter of time before he has a big game and then everyone will be like, all right, how it is?

It just amazes me every week it's all about his usage, Like it's all the coaches fault every week.

At some point, you got to be responsible for your performance.

Yep, very fair.

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