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You Dont Know What You Dont Know feat. @ChrysChilds (Part One)

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Speaker 1

If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if you know what I'm.

Speaker 2

Sitting dude, so shameless.

Speaker 1

If you know what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so so so shameless.

Speaker 2

If you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 1

Shameless, If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what, why are we?

Speaker 3

You see?

Speaker 4

If you see content and you're content creator, why would you say, yo, let me get this, Yo, let me get this.

Speaker 3

I would be like, Yo, I'm recording this.

Speaker 4

What would we be like, Yo, No, don't record this kind of strict in here?

Speaker 3

What about this combo would make you say, yo, you know what?

Maybe they don't want to record this.

Speaker 5

Can you put this?

Speaker 3

Put the what?

Leave the what?

Speaker 4

And then is when you said about these bodies bodies, Oh that was funny to me.

Speaker 2

They're really wrong with me.

Speaker 3

All that was funny as hell to me.

Hey, are we in the building?

Speaker 5

In the building?

Speaker 3

Are you in the building.

Speaker 5

I'm in the building.

Speaker 3

So you think my hoodie is ugly too?

Speaker 2

The long pulls go crazy?

Speaker 3

Nah, it's I get I see.

Speaker 4

I see what you was with the slap back to not valids, all right, two non valids?

Speaker 5

So you got my brother, I see what's going on?

Speaker 2

What are we doing?

Speaker 5

I'm which I'm gonna stand with you today.

Speaker 3

It was an ugly sweater party, okay said.

Speaker 6

Ugly, not cheap.

I think you missed it like you went the other direction alright, know.

Speaker 2

That should look like you could rip it, and that's what you probably can.

Speaker 3

But what's the is it one wherever but you?

Speaker 2

But you remixed it?

Why you have it on right now?

Speaker 3

Because I thought it was cute last night?

Speaker 5

Cute?

Speaker 3

All right, it's not cute.

Speaker 2

That's valid.

I can't look cute, absolutely, friend.

You can do whatever.

You can do whatever you want.

That's the cute post.

Speaker 3

What Courtney does it?

I can't do that.

Mm hmmm h h good morning doing today?

Hello?

Wait?

Speaker 4

Can y'are telling me that I'm not valid today?

Speaker 2

I can't do this you you already did it.

It's happening.

Speaker 3

We're already.

Speaker 2

Man, it's not even Frosty.

Speaker 3

Who is it?

Speaker 2

I don't know that ship is Like that's a nigganame David or something like.

Speaker 7

Nobody knows Frosting.

Do not look like that that nigga named Philip yo listen.

Speaker 2

And ugly sweater.

Speaker 3

Freut turn the volume on on the computer.

Speaker 4

Because I told you.

I literally pointed at it and said, yo, you have to hit this button.

Speaker 2

Uh huh.

Speaker 3

Can they hear?

Because she said, you know they muted that was mad long ago.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's a little bit.

Speaker 3

It was five minutes ago.

Speaker 2

You were at that was mad?

All right, bro, they want to judge your sweater.

Speaker 3

They listen.

It's cool, they are.

Speaker 4

They They gotta find a way to get to me yesterday And I had a moment this week.

Speaker 3

We did I don't know if we should discuss this.

Hey, Chris, how you doing it?

So?

Speaker 2

Why do you bring why do you do that?

Ship?

Why do you do that?

Speaker 5

I'm trying to figure ot what the moment was.

Speaker 8

No, no, no, no, but why do you do that?

And you know exactly what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2

But why?

What is the reason?

Speaker 3

It's fun?

It's fun.

Speaker 4

We have a guest in the building today.

My accountant is in the building.

Speaker 2

Should I say that, I guess you can say that.

Speaker 3

She's in the building.

I've known her for Oh it's been quite some time.

Speaker 2

In different phases and different phases.

Speaker 3

Never thought you would become an account Well.

Speaker 7

Actually, like money and numbers.

So it actually was a natural trajectory, you know, it makes sense and funny story, you know, because obviously, you know, I come from a night life background, you know, running venues and bartending and bottle service, and the money is like obviously at one point astronomical, and you're like, oh my goodness, what do I do with all this money?

Speaker 2

And I just didn't know went.

Speaker 7

To school, but nobody teaches you these things right specifically, and somebody put me on in night life and they were like, yo, this might be a good situation for you.

And it just opened my eyes and I was just like, I have to tell everybody what can you do with money?

Speaker 2

So it was a natural progression.

So you just an accounting.

Speaker 4

You called yourself a nightlife enthusiast.

Is that what you said to me when I asked you what your.

Speaker 3

What is it?

What is it?

Life enthusiasts?

Speaker 7

Not an enthusiast, but you know, a connoisseur, professional, you know, like a madam, like a plug of sorts.

Speaker 2

I mean, you know, they did call me the pied piper of bad bitches at one point.

I'm sorry, I was never fucking wrong.

I just want to say that.

You know, I didn't know many things.

Speaker 3

Bringing them out, bring them out, bring them out.

That's what you're at one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because it was fun.

You know, pretty girls like pretty girls.

You make friends.

It's lots of drinks and parties.

Everybody is fine.

You get to meet all types of people.

Speaker 7

Why not go out together organizing It makes sense, make some money together.

Speaker 2

The connoisseur of hose.

Speaker 5

I'm seeing the vision.

Speaker 3

I've seen that go in direction for real before.

Speaker 2

By the way, go ahead, tell you a story.

Speaker 3

A friend started that in that direction, and then.

Speaker 4

The wealthy individuals would be like, can you get her to come back to my room?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

And he became the middleman, you know what I.

Speaker 8

Mean, So a pimp, a liaison sexual it became.

Speaker 4

It became that through the night, like it went that way, and then it was like, hey, you know what it does.

Speaker 7

Get CD It does get those different kind of stories right right.

Speaker 4

You also work as a media person, I am.

You work with Fubu for a long time, like for us by us.

Speaker 7

For us by us, the clothing line or like a different the clothing line Keith Keith parents specifically, he branched off and did FOB radio because you know, they're all doing things, you know, Damon with Shark Tank and Alexander with the station, so it's like a collective force of entertainment.

Speaker 2

So yeah, I've been with Foo Fooboo Radio for a while.

I love it.

Speaker 7

What's awesome about them is just being able to talk about anything, you know, and not being stopped.

I know, at one point when all the protests are going on with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter and the vaccines, and I definitely had a lot to say and I was like nervous, you know, like Okay, you know, how far can I take this?

And they're like, no, go for it and actually read the Willie Lynch letter on air.

And that's when I felt like, Okay, I actually love being here, and they went for it, and it was been thinking.

I mean I did get banned on Instagram for a little bit.

You know, I damn still act a little funny, but you know, Shadow band, but.

Speaker 4

It's all right, way Shadow for write for reading the Willie Lynch letter that.

Speaker 2

Amongst other things.

Speaker 7

Because you know, there's certain books banned in prison because they don't want us to unite, they don't want us to have information.

So again, the natural progression of things as you learn, things coming up and meeting people.

It was just like I have to share information as I get it because you never know, even if it reaches one person, you never know you can.

Speaker 3

For that person exactly.

Speaker 2

I do a lot of things.

Speaker 3

What's the name of your show?

Speaker 7

So it's really just Christ with the Why.

I don't ask me why.

So I'm on foobuo ten am to two pm daily.

You know, you get to hear some thoughts here in there and do motivation.

I'll talk about events, what's going on, just whatever comes to my head.

Speaker 4

That's fire, that's actually, that's actually really dope.

Can we get that on Spotify?

Speaker 7

You can catch it directly on Fudbo radio dot com.

That is also on Apple, yes, Spotify, pretty much all.

Speaker 2

The platforms they have.

But if you want to go directly, go to the website.

Speaker 4

All right, FB radio dot com From ten to two Chris Childs, what's the name of the show?

Speaker 2

Chris why?

Speaker 3

Chris of the Why Why?

Chris with the hy.

Speaker 2

Because you know, don't ask me why.

Speaker 4

Okay, very quickly before we start, because we had a very very interesting Netflix drop this week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I do want to talk about some things, right, I used to go to H and R Block.

I would go to.

Speaker 4

Some friend of a friend that does my does accountant or taxes out of a back room and right, and when something would go wrong, that motherfucker would know.

Speaker 3

Maybe found hey, well you didn't tell me, bro, I brought you all my ship.

I put it on your table.

You didn't get well, you didn't tell your job.

I don't know what right.

Speaker 4

I don't know how, but I wind up getting set up with Chris and her business partner La.

I've been loyal to them for years, and when I have a problem, I'm able to call I made it right.

The thing I want to say is I feel like more people should have financial advisors.

More people should have like loyal I don't want to say loyal, but like prudent accountants.

People that that and they can say, hell, with this money, you should be doing this, you should be invested in this.

Speaker 3

Don't make this move that one is going to be healthy for you.

Speaker 4

I remember I was I wanted to use my business accounts for something in LA was like, oh whoa whoa who who who?

Speaker 3

I don't even think you should go there.

Speaker 4

Let's work on this over here, right, Because I would have never known, right, Why isn't that more people?

Why do y'all think more people don't invest in financial advisors or have Are they prevalent?

Are there black financial advisors people out there that people can of.

Speaker 2

Course it's black everything.

Speaker 8

But you don't know what you don't know until you know what you don't know.

So the financial literacy part, you don't realize you're financially illiterate until somebody teaches you something and you're like, oh shit, I never knew that, and I never knew I was supposed to know that.

So I don't think that we do a great job as a community and uplifting and pinpoint in financial literacy early.

But then, like for me, I work in an organization where middle school kids are getting financial literacy and it's like there's a disconnect because you're getting so much free game, but they don't care yet, So it's like kind of falling on deaf ears.

Well, by the time you get to high school, your priorities are different, so you should learn about it earlier.

Speaker 2

But how do we get.

Speaker 8

People to care about something that they don't understand how it's going to impact them, especially children?

If you don't have no capital you don't give a fuck about what we're talking.

All of this is hypothetical and it's not like they're going home and sharing it with their parents.

Speaker 2

And that's what it is right there.

Speaker 7

Because us as a black community, and fortunately, there's a stigma about not talking about money.

You don't talk about money in the household.

Don't ask me about my finances, don't don't tell me.

Speaker 2

About my bills.

Speaker 7

That's none of your business, you know, And unfortunately that trauma passes on and you just perpetually not talk about money.

So what you said was very important.

It's not important to them or it's not interesting because nobody's talking about money, and the conversation really comes at home.

Book and I love that you said, you don't know what you don't know.

We only know what we're exposed to.

Yeah, we have Google, we have this, but how you how do you know to Google it unless you're exposed to it.

So it is up to the home, it is up to the schools, the mentors, and you know, also us talking about it as much as possible because the reality of it is a lot of these young athletes right now because the nil deals, they're coming into millions real quick.

Speaker 2

That they're not even prepared for.

Speaker 7

Nope, it might never see again because not everybody is going to go further than that.

Speaker 2

But it's a blessing in disguise that they're getting it now.

But what do they do?

Speaker 4

But how much money do you need to have before you start thinking about having a financial advisor?

Speaker 7

I think as soon as you think about taking your future seriously, if you have a dream, you should talk to somebody who knows more money than you.

And obviously, as you grow your wealth and let's say you invest or, you're streaming, or whatever the case is, because there's so many of these avenues that which you can get money quickly.

I think at any point you should get a financial advisor if you're serious about the trajectory of your future.

Speaker 4

And you're not that in your twenties, are you?

Speaker 2

It depends on how serious you are.

There's some very serious.

Speaker 8

Twenty year olds, and there's some twenty year olds that I mean, how many people do we know that they were in a situation when scamming was crazy in Brooklyn and so many people should technically be all right right now, but they did not do what they were supposed to do with their money and now niggas is fucked up like them Louie bags that that was the top notch in seven that were looking at that shit, Like so there's the new one.

You're still wearing that shit from fifteen years ago because you rather buy that than figure out how you can invest and put yourself in a better position.

So I think everybody should learn at base value.

But I think the important thing, like Drew just said, it's hard to invest in learning when there's so many scammers that are like just trying to sell you a dream, like here for this five thousand dollars class, I can teach you how to You're like, all right, I want to really learn, and now you're taking advantage of the people that want to learn from you.

So who do you trust and where do you go?

Speaker 2

Right?

It definitely it comes with anything.

Speaker 7

Right, if you're looking for concert tickets, sneakers, whatever, it's research.

Speaker 2

You have to do research.

Speaker 7

If you're starting to have the questions, you have to look it up.

I mean, we have AI, we have Google, we have all these things, but their scammers everywhere.

You have to be able to look at their history.

See if there's a website, see if you can contact anybody.

Again, if you're serious about your money, but also ask people that you look up to.

Right, there's people that you can come up to, like your local business owner that you probably see every week when you go to the corner store, or the person you buy.

Speaker 2

Your sneakers from, or whatever.

Speaker 7

The thing about it is, we all have someone within our reach that we can.

Speaker 2

Get to and ask.

But you have to ask the questions.

Speaker 7

But it's also up to us to keep having this conversation as well, because the reality of it is, the more we talk about it, the more we make comfort people comfortable with actually asking the questions, not making a taboo.

Speaker 4

Okay, well, if you're out there and you are working shit week to week, check to check, I still think that you need a financial advisor.

I think that you should have somebody to say, Okay, let's do this for the first month.

Can we put this aside for the first month With this, we can do that.

Keep making that thing and I will help you grow your bread.

Do you think that's that's a good idea?

Speaker 7

I suggest if looking if you're having a nine to five and you're looking towards like let's saying, and buying a house, or you want to have a business or something, whatever goal it is that you have opening up a studio, Start with the planner, right, a financial planner you can get one on Amazon anywhere pretty much, or even a notebook like write down your finances.

Take a hard look about what you have going on, how much you make versus how much you're spending, because when you write it on paper, believe you'd be like, who.

Speaker 2

Am I a rich drug dealer?

Like why am I spending money?

Speaker 3

Like this amount of money I spend on honey buns a month?

Shit?

Bro That shit don't make no once.

Speaker 5

You look at it.

Speaker 4

You look at how many times at the corner a store, maybe like sixty seven dollars.

Speaker 2

That's a lot, Like, Yo, what the fuck.

Speaker 3

Am I doing?

Speaker 4

Because it's two dollars two dollars a day?

That's pretty good times thirty days.

That's what sixty dollars.

Speaker 8

In the city is probably Why don't you just go to like Costco and get like a box of honey months.

Speaker 3

I didn't want to commit I see.

Speaker 2

That though, because it's been there.

You're just gonna go.

Speaker 4

Yeah, when you're out working and ship you do pass the store, You're like, I know they got.

Speaker 2

Of course, like a side question.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean, A high quest see what you did?

Speaker 4

But yeah, I wound up spending I realized over one hundred dollars a day or nothing.

Speaker 2

Mm hmm.

Speaker 4

Take out a juice like going to the store getting smoothie or something like that, that's eight dollars.

Speaker 2

How much does it cost for you to leave the house?

Speaker 4

Oh, over one hundred dollars?

Over one hundred dollars.

I promise you it's not.

There's nothing less.

There's nothing less.

Speaker 7

I feel like one hundred dollars is late every time you leave the house because the tolls, the congestion, if you drive, the parking, breathing.

Speaker 4

Breathing costs.

Yes, in New York City, breathing costs, you'd be figure rent is due.

So yeah, yo, do y'all invest in digit?

Do y'all use digit?

That thing like?

Speaker 2

Oh, I used to use digit.

I used it for years and then I stopped.

Speaker 3

Do you know what digit is?

Speaker 4

No, it's it's called opportune now A O P O R T U N.

I believe it's on your app store and every time you swipe your card, they take a little bit out and put it into the side.

Speaker 2

Okay, dope every time.

Speaker 7

Thank you used to do that at one point, and that's actually it was really dope.

You actually acquire money.

Yeah, but you have to set like good financial habits.

And that's why I say, like, write it down, set your goals, because I mean, even now, like I'm every time I get paid from something else, I try to take like five to ten percent and put it in an account that I don't even touch it.

Speaker 2

I don't even have a debit card too.

Speaker 7

You know, you have to set good financial habits because you would not believe, like, like you said, the little like the sixty seven dollars that you spend a month on honey buntons that can go into an account every month for some aud amount of time, or an investment account.

You know, sometimes you can just let money sit and grow.

Speaker 4

Absolutely, when I was looking for this crib, I looked into my investment account and was blown away.

I could not believe the money that I had saved over there because I never looked in there.

I never knew the password that's just coming out my account, and I never even knew how to get to it until I needed it for something.

And then when not looking, I was like, get.

Speaker 2

The fucking and that's how it feels too.

Speaker 3

Holy fucking shit, I'm wealthy.

No, the floorboard.

Okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 4

I guess that's the that's the episode.

Yeah, now we get into the ship here we go.

All right, welcome to so Shameless, where we are going to speak about Sean Combs the Reckoning.

Speaker 2

I like the way you intro that it was very ominous.

Speaker 4

Yesterday you watched this, yes, sir, when you said you watched it this morning, so it's fresh in your mind fresh.

Speaker 3

What did you think about Sean Combs the Reckoning.

Speaker 5

I thought it was I thought it was interesting.

I thought it was interesting.

Speaker 3

Now is that because fifty cent made it?

Speaker 4

Or No?

Speaker 6

I kind of try to remove that piece of it.

But again, a lot of information I think that we've kind of heard before.

But I do think that there was some some stuff that I learned for sure that I didn't know as far as like the whole just the whole saga of it, right, because it's really a saga of things.

I don't think it's just this one little piece.

And I do think fifty being attached to it, I do think that it makes it really petty, like super petty, you.

Speaker 3

Know what, Petty is part of that.

You know.

He did an interview on ABC.

Speaker 5

And he only did it because they can see ABC and jail in jail.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 7

Today, he's a person you don't cross.

It's like, you take it low, gonna drag it to hell.

Speaker 2

I just aspire to be.

Speaker 3

That.

Speaker 2

It's class my favorite cancer.

Speaker 4

He's so he doesn't he just doesn't give a fuck.

He's never gave a for I said this.

I said this the other day.

No matter where fifty goes, when he passes Heaven or Hell, it gets worse.

Speaker 3

No matter where.

Imagine fifty walking through the gates of Heaven.

Bro, Oh my god, how.

Speaker 4

This nigga get in I'm in Hell now?

Just the fact that he's here, it's going to be a first shootout in Heaven.

Speaker 2

Please you see how you gotta drag it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's gonna be a different type of war.

Speaker 2

But I'm not gonna just fought before so I can see that.

Speaker 6

But he has been consistent though, He's been one of the only people that has been consistent throughout the years on this city ship.

Even when a lot of people used to be like yo, chill, he was screaming that shit from the rooftops.

Speaker 5

So I do respect the beef.

Speaker 2

You know, the villains.

Speaker 8

Villains be right sometimes, and I think that every time somebody says like, oh my god, if it is a villain, I'm just like, but does that make him wrong?

Speaker 3

Though?

Speaker 2

Everybody has an origin story?

I love it.

Yeah, I'll be with the villain tales.

Speaker 4

I asked Chris to watch the show.

Yeah, she watched it.

Speaker 2

I did watch it at your at your request.

Speaker 3

What did you think about this?

Speaker 7

I also thought it was interesting.

Actually, it was very well done.

I'm not gonna do it was extremely well done, very well done.

It was captivating, It was informational as it painted a picture.

It gave different perspectives that no matter what you thought before, it gave you something not only to think about, to also look inward, right, because it just really laid things out like and now the perspective is like, well, now that you say that, wait, let me check this out again.

Speaker 2

And it does come with a different kind of eerie feeling.

Speaker 7

And we also have to remember, you know, and I think everybody knows that what he's in jail for right now is not the real crime.

This is his karmic punishment.

Yeah, being broken down and because let's be honest, we always know Diddy done did it, you know, but we allowed it to happen because we weren't so hyper sensitive that you know, we weren't so empathetic at that point, and we just love the music where the culture that separates the person from their artistry, but the reality of it is like the way they painted it and put it together.

I didn't feel like it was a smear campaign.

I felt like I was being given information about someone and you know, I might have to rethink some things.

Speaker 8

So God, this is like my third ditty documentary that I've watched since all this, the HBO one.

So I think that I learned more from those because I saw those first.

But at least, like the story is still very consistent.

I think that episode two an episode the three where the two most eye opening ones for me one and four was like like I understand, like I know what we're doing here, because I already had that, Yeah, but two and three especially to like when you talk about like the origin stories of like the Biggie Poc Beef and then like seeing like his involvement in like those like intricate details that you probably I mean when Biggie and Tupac died.

I was six seven, so like, I don't have that understanding.

But I think for me, the major takeaway is at the age that I am now, I cannot, in good faith or conscious ever back a nigga over forty five, Like I don't know what syaw niggas was doing.

Like I can't, like I'm never I can never just stay here and be like, you know what, like I am a fan of no one.

Okay, there are songs that I like.

I am a fan a stand of no one.

I'm I'm all good.

I even after watching that documentary and I not this is gonna sound crazy.

My jay z Standum has officially paused.

It has officially paused.

And it's not because I think that he did anything.

It's because I don't know.

Speaker 7

What none of y'all niggas was doing when I was in elementary school.

Speaker 2

So you know what, let me just shut the fuck up.

I'm gonna sit out of it.

Speaker 7

I'm y'all are horrible, the generation, the worst generation ever, the worst generation of men ever.

Speaker 2

All just it's just y'all.

Speaker 4

Y'all started everything.

It's not start everything that y'all are living today.

Right, and we were victims of what happened to us before that.

How are we worse than the niggas that was all crack and that was doing all that.

Speaker 2

I was in proximity with y'all niggas, I don't.

Speaker 3

Have to We're the worst generation.

We're not for me.

Speaker 4

We're the beginning of the of the come up horrible, horrible, We're the beginning of the recovery terrible.

Speaker 7

Y'all niggas allow all types of actually say there was a complex going on because you guys did survive a lot, you know, money, getting into money and drugs and everything.

So baby with this documentary just showed what money does to someone when they feels like they're untouchable to.

Speaker 2

Trust, not trust none of them everybody.

Speaker 8

Every time I watch a documentary that that that is stapled in the nineties in the eighties, I'm just tryma, how did y'all niggas get away with all of is?

Like, yeah, that is what it is is.

Speaker 2

How did y'all niggas get away with all?

Speaker 3

It is?

Speaker 1

Like?

Speaker 8

How did you get away with all of these rumors and murder like because there was no cancel COLDU like, there was nothing so niggas was hearing about this ship and then just what they.

Speaker 9

Did exactly to this day somebody and go, I was.

Speaker 2

A but they but they lit in the hood, so it's okay.

Speaker 4

I remember walking down Troup Avenue and it was a jeep or a truck or van.

Speaker 3

It wasn't a van.

Speaker 4

It was like a some type of jeep blown up by a fucking grenade just on the corner, just completely split open.

What the fuck, cops, Wasn't there nothing fire?

And I'm a kid walking by like nine years old.

Speaker 7

Hun, I was really going through real It was nuts, Like people's getting bodied right in front of you, just walking off.

Speaker 3

It happened all.

It happened multiple times to me.

I wish Trum was here for this.

Multiple times I see a nigga they had blown off right in front.

Speaker 2

Of me, like, and y'all are okay.

Speaker 8

None of y'all are in therapy, and this is the ship that y'all are not okay, Like y'all are not okay?

Speaker 3

Multiple times And that's before I was on No Street.

Speaker 7

And maybe that comes from well, like I've been through worst culture too, you know what I'm saying, Like why certain.

Speaker 2

People get away with it?

Where was the bar?

Speaker 8

Like like like if there was a bar for your generation of the ship that y'all seen and y'all.

Speaker 2

Went, where was the bar?

Speaker 3

The bar was?

Speaker 2

In hell?

What a bar for?

Speaker 3

Like?

All right?

Speaker 7

I think it was by a code like Lisa was like children women at one point.

Speaker 2

Not even niggas.

Speaker 8

I remember being a kid and people being in like talking about watching the R.

Speaker 2

Kelly video to this day have never seen it.

Speaker 8

There's certain things that I've never seen that's like culturally, things like everybody, like everybody says, I haven't.

Speaker 2

So what I'm saying it no.

Speaker 8

So what I'm saying is like, what is the mentality of a group of niggas that's watching R.

Kelly sexually assault a child and y'all watching it on a cassette tape barbershop.

Speaker 2

A DVD in a barbershop.

Speaker 7

I don't know that generation of but but that generation of men, like like, where was thezed?

Speaker 2

How did you get it?

That way?

Speaker 4

When I'm in junior high school one thirteen downtown.

Speaker 2

Okay, we went to the same middle school.

Speaker 4

I'm out in the field right on recess out in the little thing right there right ground the playground.

The decepts come into the playground with little hammers in their hand.

Yes, the gang, this is a gang in Brooklyn.

Yes, the teachers told them, yo, you can't come in here.

They beat up the teachers.

I don't understand what you deceps are thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds too, I.

Speaker 2

Was about to say, because they were kids too.

Speaker 7

So they beat up the teachers, the male teachers saying, my brain is not computing exactly.

Speaker 4

And so imagine that as a thirteen year old when you're when the adults can't protect you.

Imagine that is a thirty year when when you realize that it's literally.

Speaker 7

But we can go back and say that that's not okay because the reality of it is just because your hurt doesn't give it the authority to hurt other people.

Speaker 3

No it doesn't.

But you can be desensitized to the.

Speaker 2

Violence, sensitized.

Speaker 7

What I'm saying is like we all have perspective, Like you can think of one thing as maybe you thought that then, but you can look at it now.

Speaker 4

I mean, but this is what thirty seven years later, the world has completely changed.

Right, Like I said, this is before when Juliani brought on them cops the streets like.

Speaker 3

Oh, he's we needed them.

Speaker 4

We needed those cops a fact, we need those because I remember looking out the windows to shoot out on the corner.

The cops come down the block, stop right here.

They had their lights on them and they came down the block.

These niggas going crazy, but boom boom down the block.

The cops turn the lights off and reverse back up the block.

I'm saying, who's gonna saved?

Using what's coming?

Speaker 2

This is hell the cavalry and.

Speaker 4

Sold You gotta imagine all these people that's growing up in this You.

Speaker 8

Remember when I said that we need a war for these Waians, y'all needed a world war.

It was your generation.

Y'all needed somewhere to go to get something.

Speaker 7

From brought up seating niggas had too much war, every day war.

But I would let's talk about this like as an overall problem, because the reality it is it's not just in our community.

The reality of it is in America in general.

Like pedophilia is an underground gang, you know, and they do it out in the open.

That's why you have the age of consent being lowered in the South and certain states going down to fourteen fifteen years old.

So The thing about it is like nasty, we're holding ourselves accountable.

We need to hold everybody accountable.

The reality of it is everybody is desensitized on some reason way, in some way, you know, in mass, behind religion or right or whatever.

So it's actually really messed up, and that's how people were able to get away with things, because.

Speaker 8

It's absolutely terrifying how much access and wealth.

The minute that we got it in a legitimate way, we turned into the same people that said that we didn't like like because you see the way that Diddy moved, the way that he spoke to people, the way that he used people and manipulated people, the contracts he gave.

You were supposed to be somebody that was supposed to uplift the community.

In the minute that you, in a legitimate way, got to a place of status and power, you violated more than anybody else.

You're violating men, women, children like you don't give a fuck.

Speaker 7

You grew in your own kids, like there is no there's no accountability.

Speaker 4

We didn't notice the whole time, though, who we the everybody the world knew he fucked over Craig mag I will know.

They know he fucked over every single artist or Drea and talk about it for years, and it was a chat.

Speaker 7

Because Aubrey didn't say anything for years and a lot of people called her a cloud chase, a liar, dragged that girl through the mud.

Speaker 2

He just kept saying, I don't know the truth.

You don't know the truth.

Speaker 7

She must have got a bag for this, because when she finally said what happened to her, it's kind of like, wait, hold, nobody was paid.

Speaker 8

Hold, nobody was paying the Humble Yeah, nobody was paid.

Speaker 3

They said that.

The Netflix people said nobody was paid for Wow.

Speaker 2

So she she put it out there.

And how about the fact.

Speaker 7

That somebody walked in on her unconscious being violated the.

Speaker 3

Way that was what they said She wasn't able to substantiate.

Yeah, but that.

Speaker 2

You could even see the emotion in her face.

Speaker 7

Like even reading it is jarring because a lot of people don't want to relive their trauma.

Some people really throw it to the back of their minds and never want to think about it again.

But the reality of it is this painted a picture to show who he was.

Like you said, we've been seeing this, but you can really see in perspective how what they call it is like destiny swapping, how bad he wanted to be talented in the spotlight and you know what, it's like, Okay, well, how can I be dancing all in the videos?

Speaker 2

It was wild.

People joked about it, but it was kind of crazy.

Speaker 7

And if you really look at the performance where he did with sting and face, it was live.

Why are you dancing on the stage like that?

Now looking at it, it's crazy.

It's ritualistic.

Speaker 2

Yes, it's crazy.

Speaker 8

It's so it's like, there's so many things that really bugged me, But I think that taking it away from Dandy for one second, what else really pissed me off was those two jurors.

Those two jurors, what did they do specifically?

I think that.

Speaker 3

They said they was pickms or some shit like that.

Speaker 2

And it wasn't even that.

I think that.

Speaker 8

To be an objective person and to vote or to have a say so in a trial, you have to have an ability to have a nuanced idea of what is happening like And if you can't see multiple sides of an equation and you're so stark on one side or the other, I think that you do a disservice to whomever you're judging in that moment.

Speaker 2

So like you have this older.

Speaker 8

Man of whatever descent obviously not American born, like he's obviously like migrated or whatever, and he.

Speaker 2

Has his own viewpoint.

But it's just like it's so.

Speaker 8

It was both of them, like they they both contributed to and it's like, yeah, but then you have to also understand like the mental and emotional impact of abuse.

You're just thinking about the physical, like, al right, we saw Cassie go through what she went through, but then the next day she was back.

Speaker 2

But then there's a there is.

Speaker 8

A mental and emotional impact of abuse that you don't have the nuance for.

So you're just seeing this one way, and I think that that's fucked up.

Speaker 2

But that's why they picked them.

Speaker 7

I remember, like the defense gets to pick their jurors, the prosecutor's son, and they pick them based on how they think they can win.

And that is messed up because they look at this person and they say, you know what, they're biased, We need this person because they're gonna have hungury.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I have a question and it's probably not gonna come off right obviously, I just say, shit, whatever, disclaimer, Isn't it fair?

Is it unfair to gather people from different walks of life that think differently and present the same facts and try to come up Let everybody try to come to a common consensus.

Speaker 2

Because unfair.

Speaker 4

Well, I think that that's what they do when they have these different jurors from all these places, like, Yo, you're not part of the matrix.

You're not part of the black community, you're not part of the hip hop community.

Speaker 3

You're not young, you're not old.

Speaker 4

Everybody's not the same, and so you're able to put them all in a room and say these are the facts, y'all figure it out.

Speaker 7

The problem is they didn't sequester the jury, and that's cuzy and this age is insane.

Speaker 8

They were sequestering OJ and you got people with your the internet is in your pocket, and you don't sequester them.

Speaker 7

You let them go home every single day having conversations about it.

Speaker 2

Yep, you know that's the first thing.

Ye should be all walks of life.

Speaker 7

And that's why you have all those different opinions, because again different perspectives.

You could say something that alters me for the rest of my life and vice versa.

Speaker 3

Well, so then what's wrong with these two jurorys being in there for me.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 8

I think that there is two things can be true.

I understand the purpose of, but I can also see the disservice of.

So here's an analogy, right, you have a black woman educator from urban environments, grew up in an urban background, so understand certain things about children that come from that environment.

And then you have a white teacher that works in an urban environment that only ever went to private school, only ever been around white people.

You have two different perspectives of the children in front of your A boy can get upset and say to a black teacher, fuck out of here, suck my dick.

She's gonna be like, damn, that's crazy, that's mad, disrespectful.

Now I'm about to be on the phone with your mother because you're wild'n out.

Obviously you have a problem.

Same black kid to that white teacher, fuck out of here, bitch, suck my dick.

Speaker 2

Oh my god.

As sexual assault, this is this is he just.

Speaker 7

Tried to sexual He said something that was sexually like permissive, and it's like, but we understand.

Speaker 2

He wasn't taking it there.

He was saying bitch, fuck you.

Speaker 7

He wasn't saying bitch, I want to fuck you like he wasn't saying, bitch, I want you to do something to me.

Speaker 8

And thinking of that analogy alone is the reason why I don't know if I agree.

Because a jury made up of more of that white woman than that black woman, you see things too differently, And now we're in control of a trajectory.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 8

Now, now we're labeling somebody something because you don't have the ability to see things from different sides, and you don't have the cultural capacity to understand what that means in our world.

Speaker 2

So I don't know where I land, but I know that it's a problem.

Speaker 4

I understand what you're saying when you say jury of your peers peer has to actually matter, it has to matter, right, And.

Speaker 3

So the only problem is problem.

Yeah.

Speaker 4

It's like even in that you might have a you and me, yesterday, a Chris.

We all have our different experiences that that hopefully would be able to be contributable to this thing.

But I might really look at life differently than you, Yeah, and Yesterday might look at it differently in me and Chris might look at it differently than all of us, and we're still going to have the same problem at the end of the day.

Is you can't really control the background of the person.

You have to control how you put on the defense and how you put on your.

Speaker 2

It is a game, but it's a game.

Speaker 8

And where this game is too impactful for the lives of the people that it touched the lives congruently, I guess, and then also thinking of like the people in the future that are going to go back and look at this, like there there should be a level of more.

Speaker 2

This is the problem I have with this country.

We don't have no code.

Speaker 8

There is no universal code of morality.

There's no universal code of right and wrong.

And if there was one, then there's certain things like no matter what would not be able to be breached, Like there is no universal code, So like who's right, who's wrong?

Who could say this?

Who can't say that?

That is gonna fuck us up forever?

Speaker 2

You're absolutely right.

Speaker 7

But again, this is when we see these things, and these are the things that we're upset about.

Like one of my life goes honestly, is I want to have my own town.

You know, we're not focusing on our own communities.

You know, obviously we have again generational trauma because.

Speaker 2

We have Black Wall Street and they burned it down right, We ain't.

Speaker 7

Our grandfathers were and our grandmothers and see what I'm saying.

We build our own communities, our own wakondas sorts, find our land and teach and have that morality and have that code.

You know, then we're on a different playground.

You know, it's it's not but we like again, it doesn't have to happen essentially in the masses.

Let's be honest.

You know, they can dog eat dogs right now.

But I can protect my communities.

I can build my you know, my sectors and encourage my people to bring sectors.

You know, obviously every millionaire and billionaire isn't going to make America great again.

Speaker 2

It's not going to happen.

But we can build a space for ourselves where we feel safe and grow on that.

Speaker 7

And protect That doesn't have to happen in the masses, no, but it can happen in podcasts.

Speaker 3

Comfortable.

Speaker 2

I don't think that.

Speaker 3

I don't.

Speaker 2

I think that.

Speaker 8

The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and get a different result.

We did that before, and as soon as we get once we get a little bit too aligned, once we get a little bit two together, they burn it down.

Speaker 2

They blow it up, so it's like it's a threat.

Speaker 8

It's yeah, at this point, it's about self preservation.

Speaker 2

Those of us that.

Speaker 8

Know what have happened in the past, it makes us reluctant to do something similar in the future because it can only be that or worse, we're fucked.

Speaker 3

Going back to the Diddy thing.

Speaker 7

That's true.

Speaker 4

I want to ask questions and it's about Diddy, but I wanted to kind of transfer towards men in particular.

But I want to talk about Diddy for a second.

Right, The nigga took Albie Shaw's girl.

He proceeds after that to go after someone he perceives to be Eric Sermon's girl.

Then he goes and gets Ryan Leslie's girl.

He leaves Ryan leslie girl, or he doesn't leave her, but he then goes after fifty fifties girl, sug Knight's girl.

Is what started the East Coast West Coast beef.

The nigga even wind up going after his own sons girl, which.

Speaker 2

Is why I said he's even groom and his own children wrong.

Speaker 3

What is wrong with a person?

Like, first of all, why would a person do.

Speaker 2

That envious behavior?

Speaker 7

And narcissists behavior proof of tests of their own power.

If I get this, then I prove that I'm that person.

I'm untouchable.

He had a god complex.

Speaker 8

I just think that niggas ain't get beat up enough in life, and like that's really the problem.

Like there's a lot of ass whoopings that he didn't get from the youth, that that that would just put you in this line life.

There's no other way enough, And was like, I'm gonna get power to take everybody, because they even said that he wasn't a fighter, that he became a fighter, and like that's the whole.

Speaker 4

Thing enough, and you want to acquire power so it don't happen again in any power.

Speaker 7

That's why a lot of police officers are abusive, because they from a place where they were bullied and they're like, I'm gonna show you it's trauma.

Speaker 8

But he was also bullied by his mother than other people.

And then it's the mommy issues.

That's where these things always stem.

If you ask me, it starts from your.

Speaker 2

Power when I didn't have any.

They said his mom's used to be up on his ass.

I believe it.

I believe it too, because even like.

Speaker 8

There is a way to honor and respect your parents when you grow up and you become successful, that don't have them tethered to your side.

Speaker 2

I always felt it weird that.

Speaker 8

She was always like, I shouldn't know your mother as well as I know you, Like that's weird, but you understand what I'm saying.

I'm talking about like just shed from a child from a child point of view, right thinking about Mesa, she looks just like he just like them?

Speaker 4

Yeah, why you ain't look like a mom somewhere?

Like you really like blond haired out.

Speaker 2

And you you just like your son.

Speaker 3

You in all the videos.

Speaker 2

Like you ain't got no one else to do, do you.

Speaker 3

I've seen this baby with other men.

Now Drake does.

Speaker 2

It well his mom.

You're just trying to piss yesterday listening.

Speaker 4

I'm serious, goes after niggas girls, like talks about going after niggas girls.

Speaker 3

Am I room yesterday?

Speaker 5

Like yeah, yeah, but what is.

Speaker 4

That about men that didn't have that wind up coming up later on and saying I know what I'm.

Speaker 3

Gonna do to this Nigga'm gonna take his girl.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna fuck this girl'm'na fly his girl out, Like the nigga did he tried to get fifty thousand dollars to pay the girl or something like that to get us something because she was Shoug Night's girl.

Speaker 7

Like what is that bro main girl like his girl from Atlanta?

Just like just this my Atlanta girl and he just eight supreme dick riding.

I don't know, like what you like, I don't know what you want me to say.

That a therapist for it, but the reality of it is it's basic narcissistic tendencies and validation.

It validates him knowing that he can do it and when people tell him, no, I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 6

Yeah, And what I really learned from the doc was that because he didn't have the musical talent, he used all of the others.

No I'm being seriously you know, like he used all of the other power in the executive power that he to kind of like switch the role.

So although he didn't have the ability, he was able to put himself over everybody and kind of absorb all of the capitol, the cachet and everything that came with all of the work that everybody else did, but just able to put itself as the front man else.

Speaker 3

We really did.

Speaker 4

He really wanted it, and Chris was absolutely right that Nigga or I don't know, Chris does that Nigga really wanted that Destiney swapping what he really.

Speaker 3

Wanted that ship?

Bro and you that's so.

Speaker 2

Crazy sounded that clip.

I can't unsee it.

Speaker 7

I was like, no way.

I mean, we know he wasn't the best rapper, but he so hard.

He should not be the best rapper.

Speaker 2

I just thought he was playing.

Speaker 4

I remember what we know of him.

Now that's bad.

There's worse out there.

There was songs that he came on maybe five years before that or whatever.

He was trying to rat with Biggie whatever, and he sounds horrible.

It's crazy, and you're like, that's puff right.

What the hell was I going to say?

Speaker 3

The fans we accepted him to this day, No fuck that.

Speaker 4

You go into the comments right now or you going They still love him, they still try to protect him.

They broke down.

You know, Capricorn Clock.

They should work with Capricorn Clock.

I didn't even realize it because I'd never heard her name.

Capricorn Clock.

She was just cap right when we worked on I want to work for Diddy and she was always the showrunner or like you know she and she loved Diddy, she loved bad Boy, she loved her job, she loved her life.

Now this is two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.

I want to say that I worked over there.

It was a great life.

But now the allegations of whatever they went through happened twenty eleven, I'm like, yo, I didn't know who that woman was, and they were discrediting the shit out of her.

Speaker 2

Oh no, right, which is crazy.

Speaker 4

But we're not very quickly.

When I go and look back and who this woman was, there's no way, She's like, there's no way a woman that was that dedicated to this shit turns around and has all of these horror stories.

No, that happened me knowing this woman, knowing I've been around this woman for a year of change, like every day.

No, there's no way that she just turns around and just all makes up all of this shit.

Speaker 3

Everything that woman said, I believe.

Speaker 8

I hate the fact that that that juror was discredited in the fact that she was kidnapped, Like that shit makes mad sense to me, Like a kidnapping is a kidnapping, Like anything that you're done that's done under duress, and the fact that she's saying, like I was kidnapped to go do an attempted murder, so y'all, like she recalled too much from from something that happened so many years ago, and this, yes, that's the nuance shit that I'm talking about, because one thing that we understand about trauma, the person that's traumatized is going to remember things to a certain degree.

Like if I'm not traumatized by that day, I don't remember shit that you remember.

But because you were traumatized, these are things that you've probably replayed in your mind over and over and over for years, which is why the details are still the same.

But you don't understand the nuance of trauma the same way you don't understand the nuance of emotional trauma or mental trauma.

You definitely don't understand the understanding of why she was able to recall something that really fucking traumatized her, and you're discrediting her and said that she lacked credibility because you're not traumatized by that, so you can't understand.

Speaker 4

She even brought up the Central Park shit.

Don't forget that London was right there.

That bad boy was right there.

Bro, We've been in Central Park with them, That's where we would go.

We even did an episode of I Want to Work for Diddy running through Central Park.

So when she's like, yo, he took me around over there the Central Park and said that it's believable.

Speaker 2

For people that understand, it's believable.

Speaker 7

So pointed because again, everybody did have a good time at one point, when did they took on what they can get from it, the access, the living out your dream and a lot of them did trade the fame over money.

But she said something like she they were their team that fed the good parts of the wolf, you know, they gave him the good food, the good energy to get the good back right.

And then they were also mentioning with KK which obviously she didn't want to talk to them and deny the allegations she was the person that essentially fed the.

Speaker 2

Bad parts of him, which made him wild.

Speaker 7

Because that's the difference when you have your entourage around you and how people pick them.

They picked them based on what you They allow you to get get away with.

They create this bubble of influence like yeah, you right, you right, Puffy right, Yeah, they had a problem, puffy set of people that.

Speaker 2

Are going to keep you accountable.

Speaker 7

Like, nah, that's fucked up, you know what I'm saying.

But if you feed the right beast, that's the version you're gonna get out.

So all was good until it wasn't terrifying.

Absolutely, he definitely is the modern day mobster, you know black buffies.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's the way he tried to No dad ass, that's exactly, yes, saying that.

Speaker 8

She wasn't but still had a cold though the nigga killed shook man in front of him.

Speaker 3

Yo.

Speaker 5

That was that was something that.

Speaker 2

Looked at.

Speaker 4

That was something that I didn't know, you know.

And that's the first time I heard that story.

I heard that story from somebody else.

I never I never heard that before.

I never heard that story somebody else.

I swear to guard heard that story for somebody else.

I never thought that it would come out on this like what I would see it on a docu.

Speaker 3

But when I heard that was like what they were talking about.

Speaker 5

Like this, it is real.

Speaker 3

This is real because you got real niggas that was there telling the same story that I heard.

Speaker 6

But then that all makes sense when you go back to the whole beef, because you know, when you were thinking about it, you know how it's portrayed when it's like it's just the music portion and you're like, m but all of the other little intricate ship And to me, the most jarring part jarring sound crazy, Come on, it was when it was when there was playing.

It was like one of them old docs that did.

He was doing and he was talking about how it was a big idea to stay in Cali and all that, and the dude was like, yo, nah, He's like yo, Big was trying to We had it set up.

We were supposed to go to the UK.

It was supposed to be one of the first bad Boy orders to do UK press.

And the day of did he called shut everything down, And I just thought that was so interesting because when I had never heard that before.

Obviously i've heard the setup of like I've never heard that, like those are the things that were supposed to happen after the fact, like La stopping then out the country, which would make sense, right, But.

Speaker 4

I have heard that Big was enjoying his time out there, didn't want to go at first, but was enjoying himself once he was out there, and it was kind of love.

Speaker 3

It was still love.

I don't know which.

Speaker 4

Facts, but I have heard that big enjoying once he was out there, it was cool, but I don't know.

Speaker 8

You know, here's my thing, the Diddy documentary.

Off the back of that stupid ship that Juel said, Off the back of all the stupid shit that Fab and Jim keep saying on camera.

I'm really trying to understand, like, what about this culture I love so much?

Because the people that I looked up to at a point are fucking stupid.

These niggas can't pronounce words correctly.

They own the fucking these pods.

I just keep seeing everybody like all of my New York heroes.

Speaker 2

I'm just like, yoh, why were you my New York hero?

These niggas are stupid?

Speaker 8

And you know how I feel about stupidity, and especially there's certain types of people that can't be dumb.

Speaker 3

You think that so.

Speaker 8

You think Juel's went on it and said that the youth don't know how to read.

They don't need to know how to read.

It is not important.

You thought that was entertainment.

Speaker 7

It gets to a point when you're saying things that are ultimately hurting the community.

You're not responsible for the words and the message you're putting out at this big old age, it's stay exactly.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 7

It's different than you know, when a sixteen year old got things to say.

Hell, they just wilding out, figuring out the frontal lobe hasn't even developed.

But when we're getting on this mic and we're staring irresponsible things like I'm gonna be honest with you, I realized I'm a full adult because I'm calm, like, I don't say things, I'm not reactionary because the reality of it is what you can say or tell someone, they'll take themselves out, you know, and you have to feel some type of responsibility to the people that are listening.

Speaker 3

I think that's fair.

Speaker 2

I don't think that's Yeah, they was arguing over words like lineage.

Speaker 4

I don't think it's fair that we even think about what Joelle Santana is doing to.

Speaker 3

Our kids, like, well, yeah, we're with him.

He's not important enough for me to worry about that.

Speaker 4

To mine, you, we should have established, we should have instilled enough into our own children where they're not just taking this leadership from random niggas no teeth.

We should not be they should not be the person who makes a break whether your kid lives a certain way or not.

Speaker 8

But you also have to understand, right, And this is what I'm saying about stupidity and how stupidity festers the Jewel Santana fans because they still exist the men that's like, yeah, you know what, He's right.

Speaker 2

These kids don't need this ship.

Speaker 8

They have kids, and then they gonna go to somebody's school and say it's not even that important that they don't understand how to do because they had they know that they can't read.

Now, somebody that I looked up to just said that these kids don't need to know how to read because they can have AI read for them and they can have Google read for them.

Speaker 2

It's not that serious.

Speaker 8

You can have Audible read them a book and they can understand.

And this is what I'm saying, and this is what I will say this though, you.

Speaker 2

Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7

We are definitely living in the times where you can't save everybody and left behind.

To be honest with you, we're looking at a good high ninety and up percent of people just being stupid.

And let me tell you something, if you're not part of that percentage and you're not successful.

That's your fault right now, because the playing field is open, people are showing, people are being stupid, people are showing the gaps in which you can succeed, and you have to be able to look at that.

Speaker 2

Some people are gonna be left behind a lot of people.

Speaker 7

Just is what it is, and it is up to us to enrich our circles and the whole exact.

Speaker 2

Can go ahead and do that, like putting roots down.

Speaker 4

Believe that we should be able to say, look at certain people and be like, ha ha, that's funny, but you know that's ignorance and entertainment and you leave it there versus right the reality of the world that you live in.

Your children should be able to should know that, and that's your responsibility.

And there's schools that you're putting them in, that's their response.

That's your responsibility, and that schools and the people that you have them around, the children that you have them around, the parents of the children that you have them around, that's your responsibility.

Speaker 2

They kids is fine.

Speaker 7

They might be perpetuating all this stuff, the way that the girls perpetuate sex and all that other stuff, but the reality of it is behind closed doors.

They not living the life that they talking about.

You know, the kids are going to good schools and getting good educations and et cetera, et cetera, but they just again leveling the playing field between everybody.

Speaker 2

Else's a long game.

Speaker 4

It's horrible, but they got to be able to His kid went to school, my kid, and it wasn't around here.

We're both from around here.

Our kids did not go to school around here.

I would go to the PTA and Maino would be there and not be looking like, oh he got he got out of here too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, as a parent, you should.

Speaker 8

But I'm thinking about how we've had several conversations on this platform when you say, like you don't like how we separate the niggas from the black people and how like we treat I.

Speaker 3

Don't like the black people that separate the niggas from the black people.

Speaker 8

Yes, but we are black people and we're talking about exactly.

So what I'm saying is, right now, there is a battle between into a battle.

Speaker 2

Like I like what I say.

Speaker 8

I like to say battle because it's an inside joke, but anyway, I say it all the time, battles, But it is a battle between those of us that want better and want more, and those of us that don't understand that there is more to be had, and those people are outnumbering the others.

When we think about comment sections, like we mentioned a minute ago, I tell you all the time the reason why I stay out the comment section is because the most terrifying part about it to me is I understand that people that are saying shit is stupid.

Speaker 2

These people are voters, and that shit terrifies me.

Speaker 8

There are more stupid people walking around here and feeding stupidity with other stupidity that to me, it's too dangerous to even joke about it because some people don't get that.

Speaker 7

It's a joke mentality at the worst scale that I've ever seen in my current existence.

Speaker 2

Hell, and I'm be honest with you.

Speaker 7

I'm to say this because I've sometimes I'm on threads and I commented on somebody complaining about a delivery driver common sense like, Okay, well yeah he threw it in the bushes.

Okay, short, he could have left it at the garage.

You know, nobody has to deliver through dog straightforward.

Let me tell you something.

I had six hundred people cursing me out, calling me an entitled bitch fucking a thought of home of four to oh three that you don't know anything about the union delivery drivers, You fucking stupid bitch, Go get the package yourself.

Speaker 2

And I'm just like, seventy two thousand.

Speaker 7

Views of people just ripping me to shreds, and I had to read it again.

Speaker 2

I was like, wait, did I say something?

Speaker 7

And I'm like and then I read the original post and I looked at the video and I'm just like, so we're in a place where we can't read perspective or see.

Speaker 2

Other points of view.

It's just I hate you and everything you represent.

Speaker 7

And that's scary because the reality of it is, this is why we're seeing people not helping women when things go down, taking out a camera filming things, watching murderers.

Speaker 2

We have lost all.

Speaker 7

Complete sense empathy, human compassion, and it's coming from our administration, our government showing that they don't care.

We're on survival mode todiocy, which is.

Speaker 2

A very very dangerous place to be.

Speaker 7

And in my adult life, I'm just like, yo, Who's coming to save us?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Oh so you know?

Now you know how it felt?

Speaker 2

Exactly?

Speaker 3

What's that?

Which one is really the worst generation?

Speaker 2

Now?

Speaker 4

With these motherfuckers or then, because shit, we help women and children back then.

Speaker 7

Exactly, there's literally it's a war going on out here, and people are fighting their demons and with zero accountability, no type of code whatsoever, and it's getting no money.

Speaker 2

There's almost no middle class.

Speaker 4

There was a family I don't know if this was.

There was a family that the youngins took out a p P P.

Speaker 5

Long right.

Speaker 3

When the money ran out.

They wound up getting their hand on the d.

Speaker 4

To their mom's house, signed it over and sold it and she's still living there.

Speaker 2

Wow, what's the question you want to ask?

Speaker 3

That's not ship that we was doing back then.

Speaker 7

And we kept it away from them.

Speaker 2

You want.

Speaker 8

Here's what I'm going to say about that, because the general your generation was the last generation of real parents, and I think that y'all are problem still.

Speaker 4

How was we the last generate?

We only had a mom.

My dad was around, but not around.

Speaker 8

You're old enough to be my dad, Okay, So what I'm saying to you is, if you you were my dad, your generation was the last generation to bring up the people like me.

A lot of us didn't have real parents.

So then we have kids and these are the kids that are doing all the stupid ship the wayans and ship is coming from my generation's kids.

Speaker 2

We were taught by y'all.

It's still you'all fault.

Speaker 4

No, but I'm telling you I didn't have a dad either, so exactly say it was just us where the where the fault generation is the same.

You're the ones saying that it's our fault.

I'm able to push that pass to when it actually started.

It started before us.

Speaker 2

Who started it.

Speaker 4

I'm here to my parents.

Our parents started before us.

We found college.

We found we found college, we took ownership, we created hip hop, we started doing becoming more entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs like that shit happened in my generation with it the repairs start.

But you can't just repair coin tel and and the crime bill and all that ship in one generation.

Speaker 2

Generation.

Yeah, you're all of that generation.

Speaker 3

It just kept leaking down.

Speaker 4

So at the end of the day, is though we all I'm saying is we ain't doing with y'all what y'all created, whatever y'all had going.

And the only reason I'm saying this because you try to point it at us, I am y'all niggas is nuts.

Y'all out here robbing old people.

Y'all pushing old people in the house, knocking.

Speaker 2

Them that I was talking about teenagers.

Speaker 7

There's a there's the millennial is generation and before that that's aging at a slower rate than the grandparents and parents.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 7

So the reality of it is, when you figured out the key to life was keep living, there was a responsibility that was dropped from the generation that we're speaking of, because the reality of it is, there were OG's when you guys decided that, oh no, I'm still living, I'm still living.

Hello, there was no responsibility on the OG community.

So the reality of it is these wyans is running around because there it was no existing of what a OG is to them, and OG is a cornball.

Speaker 2

Because not for nothing.

Speaker 7

If you really speak to them and ask them, yo, like why y'all trying to do everything like opposite and this aggression, they will literally tell you it's like, Yo, y'all still in our space and you ain't supposed to be here.

Y'all fucking our bitches spending money at parties that we ain't even come up into the money yet, because y'all got it, and y'all still at the age where the pool is everybody, you know what I'm saying, and you not teaching because they technically are supposed to be all replacements.

Speaker 2

But y'all not done.

Speaker 3

Yet, yep.

Speaker 7

So it's got a parent that's missing the reality of it is we figured out how to live our lives to the fullest.

But we was like, yeah, well we're not done shorty, so sit this one out.

So now they're like, I heard you watch this.

But if you're everything you.

Speaker 8

Built, but if you don't have an OG, right, And I think that that's also really important because growing up, we always had when you was growing up, we always had older people that we looked up to.

These niggas is looking up to niggas the same age.

How you in your twenties and your OG is n be a young boy that's.

Speaker 2

Not your OG?

Who do you look up to?

Like, who's the you're talking about?

Lateral?

You're looking across the room at that nigga.

What happened?

I could tell you what happened.

Speaker 8

I could bring it back to a couple a couple of episodes agoing round this shit and tightening sit up in the boat if you want me.

Speaker 2

To, because.

Speaker 8

As I said previously, y'all niggas is clowns and don't want to grow to fuck up.

Speaker 7

Y'all gotta grow up, y'all.

Niggas want to keep playing.

They want y'all want to be able to play the field and play.

And you don't want to grow up.

You don't want to lock in and be the family guy.

Y'all, niggas is forty years old.

Go sit down, Go put on the slides that with the open toe, Go stand in front of the grill, and go be a nigga.

Speaker 2

You're supposed to be.

No, y'all don't want to do that.

Speaker 8

Nobody wants to be where they're supposed to be.

And it's mostly you men, because I'm not even gonna hold you.

The women my age, we're still outside, but we're not outside with the young bitches.

Speaker 7

We avoid them at all costs.

We're on the rooftop bars and listening to R and B music, drinking espresso martini, and y'all niggas got on chains and the clubs hopping bottles at forty Hello.

Speaker 3

Why over there?

Why why are you?

This ain't about me?

I hope you ain't over there.

Speaker 4

I went to one party and I said I do not belong here on my own home.

Okay, I said, fact, niggas, what do you mean I grill?

Speaker 8

You're talking about these young niggas don't know how to grill.

No more niggas is losing recipes for real.

They don't be throwing the foo bull in the street.

Speaker 3

Yo.

That's crazy that you said that.

Bro.

This is the first generation where we wear.

Speaker 4

The same clothes as the kids, listening to the same music as the kids.

Niggas is going to the same concerts as the kids.

Speaker 7

Bitches, why are y'all taking these because y'all money is established, you eradicated them, are them?

And I was just like, oh wait, I don't have to go to the suffrage.

I can skip's you're dead.

And then you're mad at the monsters that you created and women y'all did this?

Speaker 5

Whoa woa?

Speaker 2

Not you?

Speaker 3

Not that because.

Speaker 7

Because the thing about it is because again the natural progression of things, and because again you're still out there, and again the youth of concept.

The reality is because you're sucking the same bitches.

The dudes that's just coming up and established can't even obtain them because y'all are spending money.

Speaker 2

Y'all have your.

Speaker 7

Career and your money in order and have the looks and have everything to basically x them niggas out Wayans is mad because they can't now.

They got to do the most to get up there, to meet y'all level, to compete to.

He didn't have access to the same women that feel like they can skip a level because I don't have to go through the suverage.

I can just go with this nigga.

He looked the same as this twenty three year old.

Speaker 2

But he just got it and looked better and he got a podcast.

Speaker 9

He got say you got your tags?

Speaker 3

Why are you doing that?

Why you.

Speaker 1

Not?

Speaker 2

A yan ain't being taught?

And he poured and he pours.

Niggas is not trying to take them up.

Speaker 5

Nigga coming with infrastructure and fund.

Speaker 7

Niggas is depping up the Wayans just to take their bitches.

Y'all rest lose it.

Speaker 2

We lose a recipe.

Back to the thing.

Speaker 7

The whole castie think she was nineteen years old when she met him, crazy, which and Ryan Leslie with her before that, and he's eight years older than her, which when he got her when she was seventeen eighteen years old, he was a full twenty six year old fucking the nineteen and eighteen year old, and Diddy took a nineteen year old from her, So she got caught up in the life because of again melojis, nobody was protecting her.

Speaker 2

Yuck.

Speaker 3

It's like where was her dad though?

Speaker 2

Why did her dad let her go?

Speaker 4

But to be honest, her her dad was in her life.

So I don't know what they got the person to protested the Ryan Leslie thing or not.

Speaker 8

But then also that we when we talk about generational things, you might not see that as a problem if you don't have that generational nuance and that lens on because I remember being in high school and having friends who boyfriends.

Speaker 2

Was twenty twenty one, twenty two, and that was normal.

It made you it was very normal.

Speaker 6

Also, remember when she was with Ryan Leslie, she was already on her way because sulready had the record, so that at some point her parents had seen some type of success.

So even if they didn't agree, it was kind of like they didn't understand.

Speaker 2

They thought she was being protected.

Speaker 5

Right, you know what I'm saying.

So it's appearing a certain way, but.

Speaker 2

Listen, man, it's nasty work out here in these streets.

Speaker 8

And I think I think my biggest issue is I don't think the youth have much of anything to look up to, so they're not performing in the way that they should be at the age that they are well all of the information that they have at their fingertips.

Speaker 2

There's there's more.

Speaker 8

Kids walking around here nowadays, and you ask them what they want to be when they grow up, and they say, I don't know than I've ever seen before in my life, because you can't say who do I want to like?

Speaker 2

What do you?

Speaker 8

But then if you don't have a goal and an aspiration, school means nothing to you.

Absolutely, you're just here so you're not taking none of this shit seriously, You're here for shits and giggles.

You here to fuck shit up every day and going about your business because you don't have a future in your own mind, and you can tell the difference between the haves and the have nots is the widest shit that I've ever seen, and it's very sad to see.

Speaker 3

No.

Speaker 7

Absolutely, there's no direction, you know, I'm saying, like the reality of it is, it's like giving someone the Internet for the first time and.

Speaker 2

Tell them into Google, Google, What Wow?

Where?

When why?

Speaker 3

You know?

Speaker 7

There is again and that's our responsibility.

And I think that's dope that we're there are people in the space that have an opinion, have some of the sake and time these stories together because we need to be teaching and putting this out.

And again, we're in an age where everybody has a microphone and they're absorbing all this different information from all these people.

Speaker 2

That's what we talk about responsibility.

Speaker 7

Maybe we don't need to be looking up to these celebrities as idols, but someone has to step up and stay on the plane where things can be taught and heard.

Speaker 2

Because again, you never.

Speaker 7

Know whose trajectory you're changing.

Yeah, because again back to what you said, you don't know what you don't know.

So if you don't know what you could be, how could you have access to it.

I remember leaving high school and not even knowing that I can like really get into radio and go in that whole path.

And when I found out, I was like, why nobody told me?

Like I didn't know that that was my calling?

Yeah, you know, and it's messed up.

So you're one hundred percent right.

Education doesn't mean anything if we're not passing anything on for them to be inspired by.

Speaker 8

Yeah, And then we also a lot of kids are raised by the parents.

Their parents were of that generation of people that did not value education either.

So it's like, oh, y'all think y'all know everything.

Speaker 2

But this is not right.

Speaker 8

Like when you were talking about like you didn't even pass Civics in high school, Like you was the bitch.

You had civics first period and you ain't get to school the third period every day but you ain't here and you got mad opinions and shit, you forget that part, and now you raising who It's like, it's very sick and sad out here, and I'm ready.

Speaker 2

To live in a bubble.

Speaker 7

It just goes so deep because when you really start getting upset about it and thinking about it, you start pulling back the layers of the onion.

You really start to see how systematic it is.

Right when it really comes to even tax time, the people that get the biggest tax refunds are the ones that don't work, that have four and five kids that live and you wonder, like, how are you only making eleven thousand for the year, Or I guess I have Section eight, I get food stamps, I have Medicaid, I get twelve thousand dollars refund chuck every year, you know, crazy and as long as I keep a child under.

Speaker 2

Eighteen on straight.

But again, it's like.

Speaker 7

We all have opinions of that, right, But the reality of it is when you really think about it.

Because when I was working in Red Hook and I had that office in Red Hook, I didn't really understand.

Speaker 2

I just had a thought of what I thought people.

Speaker 7

Lived like, right, But then when they come into the office and you really see, like the financial literacy isn't there, and you're talking, I'm like, no, you know you can do this and you can get this paperwork to start a business, and how easy it is.

Speaker 2

Their eyes light up because.

Speaker 7

You can see that no one has ever had a conversation with them about finances and treating them based on how you see them or you view them as quote unquote like living off the system.

How it's an entire neighborhood that has taught these thousands of people to only stay here.

And if you leave here, what's the next thing.

There is no middle class.

Then you have three thousand dollars rent, four hundred dollars travel, you have to buy your food.

Speaker 2

There's no way for them, There's.

Speaker 7

Not a real bridge of education and a real bridge of rehabilitation to get them from point A to point because you're also eradicating the middle class as we speak.

So all these things tied together and the middle class and the middle class doesn't exist.

We all pour because gap you knowledge, getting wider and wider.

The gap is getting wider and wider.

Rent is getting astronomically unaffordable, but there is no real income difference.

Speaker 2

Customer service is going out of business.

Speaker 7

People don't have extra money to spend because they're just surviving, not knowing if you're going to have medical coverage, not knowing where you're going to get your food.

I'm talking about a subway sandwich six inches twelve dollars.

Now make that make sense, you know?

And if that's twelve dollars and people are still working for sixteen dollars an hour, you have to work almost an hour to afford.

Speaker 3

To eat sandwich.

Yep.

So when you.

Speaker 7

Really put it in perspective, it's constant quicksand you know, and then the rents go up every time you renew the least ten percent, and then there's no cap and now you're priced out.

But you can't even afford to because it costs ten grand to move.

Damn sure do so when I say they're eradicating the middle class, like we know that there is what's left of it, but a house twenty years ago it was capped at two hundred and fifty three hundred grand.

Now you're looking at four hundred five hundred thousand dollars of our house for a fix a house to the slums, it's two hundred thousand dollars.

Like you're literally basically, And when you do that, that's when you control the minds of the people.

You get them hooked on a system in which they say, Okay, well you know what, I have no choice but to go along with this.

But then again, you have the other side that hates them for not having a choice.

But yet we won't share the infioration, we won't bridge a gap, we won't build our own communities.

We're just consistently judging each other.

Which is why the Willie Lynch letter is very prevalent.

Speaker 2

How to make a slave, it's there.

If you don't know your history, you're doom to repeat it.

Speaker 4

Helloa, you came hungry, you know my coffee?

Speaker 3

That a call for kicking.

Damn, I'm about to give me something neat ship.

Speaker 4

We're at what one fifteen now, I guess it's trying to take a break, y'all already know.

Go over the park, yo.

I'm yo.

I got beat up so bad and they weren't even talking to me.

But I'm tired, like I want to go take a nap.

They were just bouncing me.

Speaker 3

Around over there.

Speaker 4

This nigga's over there and laughing watching me just get punted like she was like boom dog came in like yeah, boop.

Speaker 3

Your niggas poosh.

Sick of them.

I need to listen.

I need to go just relax for a second.

Speaker 4

Come on over the patreon at So Shameless podcast patreon dot com back slash So Shameless podcast to hear the rest of the ash whippen Okay, and it's part two of this week's episode titles you don't know what you don't know during Chris Child's Miss Donabelle and when black ass forty fifty year old niggas that don't get out the back for a second, So shameless, Yo, I was just sitting here like wait, I didn't do nothing, but.

Speaker 2

It's looking at yesterday was like you're laughing at me?

Speaker 3

He's no man a week.

Speaker 6

No because no, listen, I ain't gonna lie.

They was whooping on you pretty good, but I didn't.

Yeah, I had to just look something like look like Joe

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