Episode Transcript
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Discord Stages.
Speaker 1It is the Trade Block.
Speaker 2I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as I am and the first Tuesday of every month by Pat Fitz Morris Fitz.
I was not here last month because it was the day before I had foot surgery, So it's been two months since I've gotten to kind of touch base with you about some Dynasty trade value chart conversations specifically, and I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's okay.
Where nothing much has changed at all in the Dynasty landscape over the last month, so nothing to see.
Speaker 1I guess.
Speaker 2Technically, the last time I did this, I don't think the season had started yet, right, it would have been the first Tuesday September, which would have been before the season.
So this is the first time and we're already into the second half of the season, which feels kind of crazy.
We're into the double digit weeks here, and the first time, I mean we mentioned Dynasty on the other shows on occasion, but first time that you and I are specifically going into a show with Dynasty in mind.
So looking forward to going through some of these changes here in the last month together from a high level of you fits just because I wasn't with you last month.
Since the season began, do you feel like it's largely been a positive year in terms of dynasty values or negative?
Do you feel like you had more players gain value or more players lose values so far in the first two months of the season.
Speaker 3Just instinctively, I mean, I would have to take inventory, but it feels like we've had more gainers, a lot of pleasant surprises, I would say, and people, you know I whiffed on, like Jackson Dart who has been such a pleasant surprise and looks like he's going to be a super flex quarterback anchor for people for years to come.
So yeah, there have definitely been some hits, some major value losses, but I think for the most part it's been positive.
Speaker 2Let's start off the conversation at quarterback and by the way, everybody can find we update the first of every month, the entire single you know, throughout the year, not just in season, but the first of every month.
We update the Dynasty trade value chart on fantasypros dot com.
You can easily just google Fantasy Pros Dynasty Trade Value Chart and find it on there as well through Google if you want to, but we have it here up on the site.
Speaker 1There are also draft pick values.
Speaker 2So we have twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven rookie draft pick values there if you're making trades with those picks in mind.
But the quarterback position is where we usually start, and I want to start with Jackson Dart because you already mentioned him here, and Dart is somebody that I missed on in terms of I wasn't high enough before the season, like you are saying about yourself, I do feel.
Speaker 1Like maybe it's a little bit high.
Speaker 2And this is a collaborative effort between you and other folks fit, so this is not strictly your ranking.
He is the ninth most valuable quarterback in our current rankings here on the updated Dynasty Trade value chart.
That feels like a bit much to me.
For example, the three names after him are Jordan Love, Caleb Williams, and Bo Nix.
And you know, Nix is somebody that I didn't love going into last season, But coming off of last season, Caleb's pettigrew and he's had some real spike weeks, although he's also had some down weeks, and his Jordan Love has generally looked, you know, fantasy wise, maybe hasn't been like the perfect quarterback this year, but I think it's looked like just a very good quarterback this year.
It's hard for me to put Dart just a couple of games in ahead of all three of them.
I know the running has been there, it's still early.
He doesn't really have any anybody to pass to except for Neighbors, who obviously doesn't have this year, but even just in general long term, that's really the only guy there, you know, Scattaboo also coming off of season Andrew, So what do the weapons look like next year?
Speaker 1I just get a little nervous putting him.
Heead of names like love.
Speaker 2Caleb, bo Nix, but I get that he should have moved up.
I guess it's just a degree to which he's moved up that has me a little hesitant.
Speaker 3I get it.
I think he's going to be a lot better than Knicks, Like I'm not to me, Nix just doesn't even factor into that conversation.
Honestly, Nicks is averaging six point one yards per attempt this year.
That's that's like almost backup level.
Like he's had a couple sort of spike games or Spike Quarters, as in when they were playing the Giants and he had that wild come Like I just I was more excited about Bonnicks coming into this year than I am right now, Like I'm a little I'm not that high on him anymore, but I get it with love and Caleb, what I would argue with Caleb versus Jackson Dart.
Dart is basically scoring the same amount of Fantasy points, if not more than Caleb right now, with a far worse supporting cast like terrible wide receivers, whereas Caleb has roma duns and DJ Moore worse offensive line.
The Bears offensive line has been fantastic for the last month.
Like Dart has just impressed me with how resourceful he is and how willing a runner he is.
Now, maybe that's not the best business model long term because it's going to open him up to more hits, but boy, I just you know, whereas there are games where you know, and I'm here in the Chicago area where I watch Caleb.
Times I watch him and he looks terrific and you see the Bear spent the number one pick on him, and other times where you just wonder if he is ever going to live up to the potential, I guess, and you know love and I I understand with love, it's a debate for sure.
Speaker 2I was just gonna say, like, I guess, I just get nervous when we only have a handful of games in a guy's career, and Jackson dartis played what six full games so far?
He has a rushing touchdown in five of those six games.
I get nervous about, like how sustainable that is?
Because, like, yes, if you look at just strictly the game log in terms of his scoring QB eleven, QB sixteen, QB three, QB three, QB thirteen, QB seven, and that's against some really tough defenses, that looks awesome.
But when that is so propped up by you're getting like a free extra six points every single week from that rushing touchdown, if that well dries up, that makes me nervous.
Now, maybe that well doesn't dry up, and maybe he is a very poor man's version of Josh Allen who just like is going to score rushing touchdowns regularly.
That could be the case.
I mean, he looks like the type of player that could do that.
Like just the way he said his willingness to run, not even just his ability, but like he's very willing to tuck it and run, especially near the goal line.
But I just get nervous about if that dries up then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1You know.
Speaker 2Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't have moved up.
I'm not saying he's not going to be a very valuable super flex quarterback going forward.
But he's currently ranked as like a halfway decent you know QB, you know, a one QB format dynasty quarterback, and I just feel nervous about that.
Speaker 3That's fair.
You know, he is basically playing quarterback the way he did an old mess where it's one read if it's not their take off and run.
I agree, that's not the way to play over time, and I don't think that's how Brian Dable is going to develop him.
But right now, in fairness to Jackson Darts, his top two wide receivers are Wandelle Robinson and Darius Slayton.
Like he is really shorthanded.
No, Molik Neighbors lost his buddy and his top running back in cam Skataboo.
Like he's going to get Neighbors back next year.
They're probably going to add to that wide receiver room.
Things might look different, and hopefully Dart's game looks a little bit different with some of the running.
You know, we're still going to get rushing value out of Jackson Dart no matter what, but hopefully he looks to be we want him to play the way Drake May plays like.
Drake May is still looking to pass even when he's running around, but sometimes he'll take off and run and add rushing value to our fantasy teams.
But Drake May has been a passer first, So hopefully Dart can be more May like next year.
Speaker 2It's funny I was gonna mention May briefly.
He's currently the fifth highest rength of QB in this he moved up a little like quite frankly, just given what we've seen out of him, with his supporting cast and the age difference between the folks that like.
I think you could make a cogent argument for him as the most valuable Dynasty quarterback right now.
I would not make that argument, but I think I think he's closer to Tier one than he is too.
This like hurts May Mahomes group that's kind of affort tier one and like again I think there is a coherent argument to be made that, given the age and what we've seen, and the fact that his supporting guests should get better, that May is the guy.
Like obviously, if you're win now mode, you rather have Alan or Lamar.
But like, just in a vacuum, I think there's an argument for May as high as number one.
I mean, and you and I of course were as high as anybody on him coming into the season.
So we're we are, you know, kind of sitting back and smoking our cigars and just raking in the rewards of being early and high on Drake May and so he just looks ground.
I think we need to talk more about him, but just in general, like wanted to note that he continues to move up here.
Speaker 3Unfortunately, the rankings of Derek Brown and Andrew Erickson also contribute to this trade value chart, so that that sort of trust me, I have Drake may Or rank higher than QB.
Speaker 1Five and Dynasty.
Speaker 2He's tied with Jalen Hurts in this value and I not a knock on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1But I would rather have Drake May, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3I don't think I don't think it's closely there.
Myself.
Speaker 1Yeah, looking further down.
Speaker 2The other name that I want to highlight a quarter back before we move off the position, just Daniel Jones, Like he moves up seven, you know, kind of value points in QB one formats seventeen and super flex formats for us, he's up to QB seventeen in value.
Maybe I was gonna say, maybe it's aggressive.
Just looking at some of the names behind him, it would have been surprising before the season, of course, to see names like JJ McCarthy, Cammore, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Michael Pennock, Junior Kyler, Murray, Justin Fields are all behind him.
But he has been very good.
It is possible that he turns back into a pumpkin, but it looks less likely every week.
Although he didn't have his best week against Pittsburgh here this past weekend, I just feel like he I don't know, I guess.
Let me ask you, because I'd rather instead of sharing my opinion, I want to get your opinion.
Is are we far enough into this performance this season that you are a believer like that, Yes, this is a guy that you are confident in being a super flex starter for you, beyond this season, because Dyne is that you do have to be thinking beyond this year?
Or is this still like a miraculous twenty twenty five, Like it's almost like a insanity run.
And let's just see when the other shoe drops in the clock strikes midnight.
Speaker 3That's kind of it.
If we had talked about this ranking before the game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, could have questioned me on whether this was high enough for Daniel Jones.
So right now I think worm we have just taken the soux fle out of the oven and it is settling.
We do not want to touch it, We do not want to cut into it.
I think we'll have a better handle on Daniel Jones' dynasty value in a few weeks or at the end of the season.
I know that doesn't do good for the people who are contemplating trading for or trading away Daniel Jones, but yeah, right now, it's he's kind of a hard guy to get a read on.
Speaker 2Well, here's what I would say about Jones, and then we'll move off quarterback.
The Colts just traded away two first round picks for Sauce Gardner earlier today.
Fits that is not a move you make if you are expecting to try and fix quarterback, you need first round picks to solve that position.
It's very unlikely to find some many free agency, even though they seem to have struggled on Jones.
Like that is the move of a team that thinks Jones, Jones or Richardson is our quarterback for the long haul.
And it's certainly you can't really make the argument for Richardson right now.
So like that trade to me speaks very highly of Shane Steichen and that front office's opinion of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3Yep, it shows a commitment for sure.
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Speaker 1All right, fits, let's go to.
Speaker 3By the way work.
Speaker 1I'm go ahead.
Speaker 3I was just gonna say, really enjoying our in house our listener league for Reality Sports Online.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, how is that going?
It's a great call.
Speaker 3I've got a league best seven and two record so far.
It's been going pretty good.
I kind of spent spent up at quarterback.
Well, unfortunately, Jayden Daniels was one of my quarterbacks, but I do have him.
I'll have him next year too.
And I got Matthew Stafford as a backup side Mahomes and Stafford.
That's super flex league and.
Speaker 2Daniel's not one hundred percent out for the year, right, They said, uh, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is non throw.
Speaker 2So maybe if you make a playoff run in this league, you can get him back.
Speaker 3We see exactly.
I'm hoping to get him back for the playoffs.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you did lean into a win now team, then it.
Speaker 3Is kind of win now.
But there's a little bit of there's a little bit of year.
He guys was suffering suffering with Trayvon Henderson for a while, so yeah, but maybe that'll pay off yet.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, let's speaking of Travon talk about some running backs here.
I am not sure what kind of conversation you guys had last month on him after his first month of the year.
But we're not two months into this kind of frustrating campaign for Henderson.
He's now RB sixteen in this Dynasty trade value chart.
He dropped from about the RB twelve ish range.
It looks like if you look at the numerical values here, I think most of the names ahead of him, it's like pretty clear and understandable why they are ahead of him.
The one that maybe would raise eyebrows again from the dynasty perspective, not from the redraft perspective is the guy right ahead of him at RB fifteen, Javonte Williams, who has had this real resurgence in Dallas.
He's been you know what we talked about his upside scenario being for this year, which is the clear only usable back in the backfield of a very explosive, fun offense, and it's really panned out that way.
Speaker 1So he's jumped up a ton.
Speaker 2He's jumped up from about the RB twenty four ish range, and that was again just from already a month into the season.
Speaker 1He was even lower before then.
Speaker 2But for right now, when you compare a guy like Javonte Williams versus Traveon Henderson, what do you think about Because it's not like Davante's that old.
He just has been around a while because he came in to the league pretty young and then had the injury stuff.
So a guy like Javonte versus Travion at RB fifteen, RB sixteen, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3So I actually have that reversed in my personal rankings.
I do have Trayvon ranked a little bit higher, butts Javante has been really good, really durable.
He's handled a big load and has had no even minor maladies this year.
And yeah, like you said, he's twenty five and a half, So Javonte twenty five and a half is prime for run You're in your prime.
But you know, he's got another couple of seasons before we have to worry about him hitting the downslope.
But it's nice because this is the Javante Williams we hoped we would see eventually back when he was buried, well not buried, but splitting time with Melvin Gordon in Denver and everyone was mad about it and wanted Javonte to get the full run out.
So he's getting the full run out and it's been pretty spectacular, but still have hopes for Traveon Henderson.
They're forced to use him more now with Ramondra Stevenson on the shelf, and it seems like they are running him more outside, which Josh McDaniels wasn't doing enough of early in the season.
I mean, get this guy on the edges because that is his bread and butter.
And you know they were just kind of slamming in between the tackles early in the year.
So I think they're starting to figure out what the more optimal usage is for Trey.
Speaker 2Nobody cares about, you know, us going too deep on the guys the very top of this list.
We all know who the best running backs in Dynasty are.
I do find it noticeable that Jamiir Gibbs is now almost he's not quite.
He's almost closer to Jonathan Taylor at RB three than he is to Bjon at RB one.
There is like a noticeable gap between Bjon and Gibbs.
I've kind of considered them as just like an easy one A one B in Dynasty, and then a gap after that?
Was that you or was that Deebro and Rickson?
That was kind of leading into maybe widening that gap just a small amount, but noticeable.
Speaker 3I guess I was involved in that, Like it's we have the David Montgomery obstacle for Jamiir Gibbs.
I suppose Tyler Algier gets some run for the Falcons too, but I feel like there are weeks where Gibbs is not like a major part of the game plan, or he kind of gets scripted out.
And we saw that a little bit last week with the Lions lost to the Vikings.
Whereas Bijon pretty much gets fifteen touches plus every game maybe that's the difference.
Yeah, Gibbs is wildly talented and has he does it a little bit more sporadically, I think than Bejeon does it.
Like I would have no issues with Gibbs being maybe a little closer than this.
To me, I don't see them as interchangeable, though, I like, if you asked me this guy or this guy would definitely want Bejeon.
Speaker 1I knew.
Speaker 2I agree that Bijeon is number one, like I don't, but I see them in the same tier, even if I would rank Bejeon ahead.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2It's less that there's a gap between them and more like I feel like Gibbs is closer to Bijon than he is to anybody else.
I guess is the way I would frame it, which is technically true in the chart, but that gap widened and it's it's almost not true.
So I wanted to bring it up because I found it interesting.
But of course everybody's really happy as those guys.
One guy that everybody who you know probably traded nothing for him or picked him move off waivers or whatever, but has made managers very happy.
Rico Daubtle he has the largest leap of anybody in trade value.
In this edition of the chart, he goes up from about the RB sixty eight sixty nine range all the way up to be UH thirty is where he's at now.
He's in range with guys like the aforementioned David Montgomery's ach scharbonday Wood.
He marks those are the three names ahead of Dawdell, and then Bill Krosky, Merritt, Chubuhabard, Baschall Touton are the three names behind him.
Very largely obvious.
Why, I mean, he's looked awesome.
I guess they're really only the question for Dowdell, if there's two, it's a you know, does he keep it up?
Like you know, obviously he's not gonna be rushing for two hundred yards a game, but like to some degree, does he keep it up?
And b will the opportunity kind of maintain at this level to allow him to provide and produce for fantasy managers.
Speaker 3It seems like it's going to maintain it.
It's interesting.
So he signed a one year deal very cheaply with the Panthers before the start of the season, and now he's gonna be free agent.
And whereas he found pretty tepid interest on the market last time he hit free agency.
I think there's gonna be more interest in Rico this time around because he has just been the engine for this Panthers offense.
I mean, they just beat the Green Bay Packers in Green Bay and a day where Rico ran for more yards than Bryce Young through four, right, Like, Rico was kind of the offense in that game for the Panthers.
So the only thing is, like he's twenty seven, Like he's an absolute win now piece for sure.
I don't know if he's going to be a building block, but he should have some value somewhere next year.
And I wonder wonder if the Panthers might try to extend him, maybe not considering they gave Chewba Hubbard the big contract extension last offseason, so like they're kind of financially committed to Cuba.
I don't know if they can tie up that much money in running backs.
They still have Jonathan Brooks on IR you know, I don't know if his career is ever going to get traction in the NFL now that he's torn his ACL twice, but pretty interesting like that he's going to be a major free agent story come March for us.
Speaker 2Yeah, it'll be very fascinating to see what ends up happening there.
I did want to ask just one more running back question, Cam Scattedby, what do you do with a guy like this who has looked awesome, whose value had risen a bunch and was very fued in just one of these stories of the season, and then has this not just an injury, but like a gruesome, tough to watch injury that is out for the year.
You know, you have guys like Javonte Williams in the past who get really excited about and then this injury affects them for multiple years.
It's obviously a different injury than what Scattedy's going through.
But because right now at RB twenty in this ranking, I guess I'm just wondering, like what the thought process is behind ranking a player like this who has been so fun but as you know, a rookie already has this gruesome injury.
Speaker 3I think he probably would have been ranked right around where we have quinch On Judkins right now, which is running back ten in Dynasty.
Just seems like that's fair.
Judkins another guy who's really impressed in his rookie season.
You've got to give Scataboo a little bit of a hit, I guess for the injury unfortunately, because some guys just you know, aren't quite the same and we've seen that it's kind of taken Chris Godwin a long time to come back from a similar injury, and he's dealing with kind of a setback right now.
But the way Camp Scataboo is, you know, if anyone's going to like rehab like a maniac to get back and be ahead of schedule and everything, it's this guy.
So hopefully he's ready to go, if not at the start of the twenty twenty six season, early in it.
But yeah, just always a hard guy.
Always hard to triangulate the value of someone like that when you have to factor in a major injury like this to a guy who was on a great trajectory.
Speaker 2Otherwise, I want to actually look at the top of the wide receiver position here.
Again, Normally I recognize that these conversations are a little less helpful because people just know that these guys are really good.
Jackson Smith a Jigba has jumped all the way up to wide receiver three, and these are kings, and he's not far behind Jamar Chase.
His trade value is in eighty three.
Puka' is a seventy nine.
JSN is a seventy eight, so he's not even like far behind wide receiver one range.
He's been amazing this year, Like if not for Jonathan Taylor, you could make a very compelling case that he should be Offensive Player of the Year in the NFL.
Huge breakout, immediate chemistry with Sam Darnold, JSN has been awesome.
Would you really like you would, according to this chart, would be willing to trade Ceedee Lamb or Justin Jefferson straight up to receive JSN.
Is that how you feel?
Speaker 3Fits?
It is how I feel now.
I think we have to consider Jackson Smith and Jigba in that elite tier, Like it's not just a knee jerk reaction to a really good start.
He has I think the biggest target share of any wide receiver in the NFL and is like just his yards per run number.
It's just ridiculous.
So some guys with a lot of volume like it sort of affects their efficiency.
They're not as efficient.
And a lot of times the high efficiency guys are the guys who have lower target counts, like Kean Coleman last year, who was like, you know, crazy double digit yards yards per target and high yards peru run on not a lot of routes, but like the high usage.
This guy just gets open so easily.
He and Darnold have a great connection.
Like there's kind of no doubt in my mind after what he has put on film this year about how good Jackson Smith and Jigban.
It's like, I kind of feel the same way I feel about Puka watching him, you know, just a guy like when puokahead first burst onto the scene, there's always a little bit of skepticism like, oh, is this going to keep up?
Is this going to keep up?
And then you just keep watching him and he does a week after week after week.
Well, jsn's kind of there.
Speaker 4Now.
Speaker 2It's funny that you mentioned Puka because he's the other guy I was going to bring up.
I am the low guy on Puoka in Dynasty and it is not at all a reflection of him as a player when he's on the field.
I think you could argue he should be number one as somebody who has rostered him in multiple Dynasty leagues.
I think there have been more weeks where he leaves the game looking hurt than there are where that doesn't happen, and I because the position is so strong.
There are these other elite names like JSN, like Justin Jefferson, like Ceede, Lamb, like Amana, Saint Brown like.
It is very hard for me to put him at number two ahead of the other kind of five names.
I think there's a pretty easy top six for me.
Maybe it would have been more if not for injuries to like Moleak, Neighbors or whatever.
For me, the top six is Chase, Puka, Jasn, Jefferson, Lamb, Amenra.
I would have Pooka at the end of that, just because I have the least confidence in his health because he has actually missed time and it's always something different.
It's not like he has this one thing that is nagging that if he ever gets over it, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1He is.
Speaker 2He plays so recklessly, which is part of what makes him fun to watch, and I respect him.
He's extremely tough, but it makes me so nervous that every single game, this cornerstone of my Dynasty team is walking off to feel grimacing, is getting blood wiped off his faces, going into the to the X ray room to have actually is done on his chest.
It is always something.
And then you add in the fact that his quarterback could retire any offseason here and who knows what that succession plan looks like.
You know, Sean McVay will probably figure it out.
But those two factors combined, like I would just I would rather have the safety of another one of these elite receivers instead of having Pooka ranked as right now, he's not even tied.
He is sitting alone as wide receiver two in these rankings, and I just can't get there.
And I recognize that I'm the low guy at Fantasy pros on Pooka and it is solely because of health.
Speaker 3I totally understand that.
And the quarterback thing you mentioned that, like that maybe is a viable concern because this could be the end for Matt Stafford after this year.
So totally get It's he when you play like a warrior, some time you're gonna you're gonna fall on your sword, I guess, And it happens to Puka sometimes, I understand.
But man like the production he gives you and Dynasty leagues or tip typically full point PPR leagues, and man in full point PPR just delivering the double digit catch games left and right.
I mean, he is just such a weekly difference maker when he is in your lineup.
Speaker 1No argument for me in the lineup.
It's awesome.
Speaker 3But I get it.
I totally get it, though.
Speaker 2Yeah, a lot of the receivers obviously, like it's like Rashid Rice moves up a bunch.
It's clear why he's now back on the field and producing like a wide receiver one.
That's very obvious.
He's up to wide receiver nine in these rankings.
You know, I don't I don't know that A ton stands out to me as like, oh that that's making me raise my eyebrows.
Why do you have this person here?
I did want to ask you about Travis Hunter.
Not like there's any big changes here.
It looked like he was on the precipice of maybe a second half of the rookie season breakout.
He had the best game of his career in that London game against the Ram before the buye and then he goes on IR late in the week before the weekend and is now gone for you know, at least a few more weeks.
And you know, Lawrence continues to struggle in Jacksonville, and it's He's a very interesting person to try and I think wide receiver twenty six is probably wrong, but I don't know which direction he should move in.
Speaker 3Yeah, so depressing that coming off that fourteen target, eight catch, one hundred and one yard, one touchdown day against the Rams in London.
And maybe that was the product of the game script that the Jaguars were in a big hole had to chase all game.
But it was just fun to see Travis Hunter be really involved in the Jacksonville passing game and I was looking forward to seeing more of that to get a better handle on his Dynasty value.
And then a practice injury during the week, so that was really depressing.
Yeah, I mean, do you feel like it's the right place to put him though?
Speaker 2Like right, yes, even though I don't think that's where he ends up.
I think it's a fair like placeholder for him.
Speaker 3I agree, kind of a Daniel Jones type situation where it could be a lot higher or a lot lower than this.
But I guess what encouraged me was the commitment to using him at wide receiver recently, because you know, my fear all along was that he was going to not be playing the sort of snap shares that you need to be a difference maker in fantasy, which was kind of the case early in the season where he was playing roughly two thirds of the offensive snaps in every game, but the last couple of games, big uptick in his offensive snap shares, and hopefully we get to see a stretch run with him doing that where he is primarily a wide receiver.
Throw him in there in dime packages if you want, fine on defense, but mostly we want to see this guy wide receiver.
Speaker 2Last question on receivers, are there any receivers on this list that you would if if I made you pick one that you think is going to move up the most in value between now and the next time we talk in the first week December.
Speaker 3Between now and December.
That's an interesting one.
I think here's one.
Jaden Reid.
And this isn't just my Packer homrism, but right now he's wide receiver fifty one for us in dynasty.
He's going to be coming off out of I don't I think he is on IR.
Yeah, so he's going to be coming off IR really soon.
The Packers just lost Tucker Kraft to a season ending ACL injury.
Matthew Golden has a banged up shoulder like I think Jaden Reid is going to be an important possession guy for the Packers, and I think he might start stacking some decent catch totals on a weekly basis, even though Jayden Reid is a guy who hasn't always played full offensive snaps in the past, but I do think he's going to be a really key cog for the Packers down the stretch.
And I suspect he's going to be top forty when we talk in another month, so that would be an eleven spot move or more for him.
Speaker 2We're going to talk about the tight ends here quickly, and then we'll get into your questions from the audience.
These are coming in from Discord, so thanks everybody who has raised their hand and started putting questions in the chat.
We will get to those as soon as we finish our tight end conversation here.
Fits I have I don't think we've ever done one of these episodes where I didn't say that the gap between Bowers and everybody else isn't big enough.
And I'm gonna say it again, the gap between Bowers and everybody else isn't big enough.
That's a personal opinion of mine.
I just like I and I adore Train ming Bride and Tyler Warren's been amazing and Tucker Crafts was incredible before getting her.
Speaker 1The GAP's not big enough.
Speaker 2Brock Bowers is a legitimate difference maker and the only tight end that I would take in the first round of a startup draft, even if it wasn't tight end premium.
That's how good I think he is and how can I think he's going to be for the next decade.
Speaker 3Yeah, Worm, you were not at the Fantasy Football Expo this summer, but this was like, and this was more of a redraft conversation in fairness, but I was arguing with about six p It was like I was John Wick at this bar, like fighting off the throngs, insisting that brock Bowers was the tight end one, and everyone was saying it was Training Bride, and I just couldn't believe that when you watch those guys fight, Like, Trey McBride is really good, but man like brock Powers is just a different species.
When he when he caught that pass on the crosser and scored on that touchdown, he was like a bullet train picking up speed when he had the ball in his hands, Like this guy moves differently than so many of the other guys who are on the field with him.
Speaker 2You were like the meme of I think it's from Tangled, where the main male character is like sitting there and all you know, you know, has his opinion and everybody has the swords around him, and it's like this, yeah, Like that's that was you sounds like at the XD like like that should be a controversial opinion that brock powers tight end one.
Come on, yeah, elsewhere at tight end, I mean Tuckercraft clearly, Like it's very different if you're a win now team.
But I think even with the injury, he is cemented inside the top five and shouldn't move down like he is.
Like, if you are a not a contending team this year, go trade for Tucker Craft, like I saw I needed to see.
He's just a stud dynasty tight end moving forward.
That it's a huge, huge bummer that he's out for the rest of the season.
But I am just like over the moon about leagues where I have him for the long term.
Colson Loveland doesn't change here.
Obviously had his big game over this past weekend.
Maybe could be a second half breakout.
We're a month from now, he starts to look a lot higher.
We see it for rookie pass catchers all the time.
Usually you say rookie receivers.
But you know, if he becomes kind of this receiving tight end for Chicago here in the second half of the season, I could see him going up a bit.
Speaker 4Here.
Speaker 2Of course, the biggest mover at any position for US, I think it is actually at quarterback, running back, receiver or a tight end is Aronde Gadsten.
He jumps up to tight end six here, a thirty point value change.
He goes from I believe, let's see it was this is a non tight end premium.
He was at tight end twenty five, twenty six maybe and he and yeah, the value is at fifteen and so now his values forty five, which puts him at tight end and six and closer to tight end five than he is to tight end seven.
So just massively for Gadston, seemingly, very deservedly, So no question marks for you about just a flukey hot month, your believer that this is legit and he is a top six tight end moving forward in Dynasty.
Speaker 3Yeah, because there was a drumbeat of positive reporting about him in training camp and Jim Harbaugh making some very positive remarks about Gadsden and how impressive he was in the summer, So I totally buy it.
The one thing that we thought was going to be tough for him was the fact that he was playing on this team with lad McConkie Keenan Allen, Quinton Johnston, and how is he going to get targets when this team like has you know, maybe the best tree all wide receivers in the NFL.
Well hasn't been a problem like he is the problem for Quenton Johnston and Keenan Allen apparently because like their target chairs have gone down since since Gadston is the one knocks exactly.
Yes, that's a good way to put it.
And by the way, I just saw there was a poll on Twitter.
One of the Dynasty guys said who would you rather have for Dynasty and it was between Tucker Craft, Ronda Gadsden, Colston Loveland, and Harold Fannin.
And last I checked, Tucker Craft was still winning despite the knee injury.
So it's still a lot of positive vibes around him.
But yeah, I mean, Gadsden, We're in this This rookie tight end class, my goodness, it's it's pretty terrific.
Like Tyler Warren has slowed down a bit lately, but man like he is going to be a core tight end for years to come.
Gadsden looks great, Loveland is coming on.
Fannon has been a pleasant surprise, Mason Taylor contributing.
Even Elijah Royo has looked pretty good at times.
So yeah, I mean everyone was everyone was really excited about the running backs, but the tight end class was really good too.
Speaker 2Five guys in the top sixteen in this chart, four in the top thirteen, or sue me, six in the top sixteen I'm sorry to that math and six in the top sixteen.
Five in the top thirteen and four of the top nine are rookies.
That's how much of a position shake up we have seen with this rookie class.
Speaker 1So I would expect those will.
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All right, fits, let's get into our listener questions here.
We've had some folks with our hands raise.
Let's start with some of these questions in the chat.
Move through some of them quickly.
Speaker 1We'll start.
Speaker 2Then we'll start calling folks up onto the stages here.
Bunting says, fellas due to injuries to other content, feel like I have a good shot this year.
Who would you be targeting, targeting and or buying low for a playoff push with this roster?
Light at running back, but of three twenty twenty six seconds to deal and not particularly a fan of Flowers, so down to send him as well.
I agree with you on that, I have long been down on Flowers from a fantasy perspective.
Should I capitalize on Manongai or do you see him as a swift era apparent?
You can check out the roster in the chat here just to read out some names for some of the folks who are maybe listening on audio only.
It's names like Christian McCaffrey, Kyle Manungaimandre Stevenson at running back, Buca Wattle Flowers, DJ Moore at receiver.
You know, looking at some of the names of the bench.
You know, Kean Coleman, Matthew Golden, Ceedee Lamb is on buy this week.
Speaker 1That's why he's on the bench.
Speaker 2Alec Pierce, So what do you think fits who are maybe some good by low targets for a playoff push with a roster like this.
Knowing that he's got some seconds, heeking deal.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean this team does look pretty good.
It's a matter of do you want to do you want to make a like a big move for a wide receiver.
He said he'd be willing to deal Za Flowers, like, would you maybe consider packaging Jay Flowers and Kyle Manangai for an upgrade to a more substantial receiver than Jay Flowers.
Someone may be a little more consistent wor so like, I don't know, I'm I'm thinking Z plus Menoga I might be able to upgrade to say, I don't know if it does.
Rashid Rice, would it do?
Could you get Drake London for j Flowers and Kyle Manangay?
Probably not, I would think No.
Speaker 2I would definitely do that if you could, I would.
The thing with trading Mananga is that he does have a lot more depth at receiver than at running back.
So I would only want to do that if you're getting like a real difference maker, like a Rice or London, like you're throwing out there.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't just trained him for the sake of it.
I would be very willing to hold on to Manongai in Jaeneral if you can make a legitimate difference making upgrade, I would be willing to move him.
But I wouldn't be like desperate to just sell off just because he had one really good week.
I think there's going to be more to come.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's always hard to ask about, you know, by low targets, spunting or whatever, because it's always sort of in dynasty it's all in the eye of the beholder.
And you know, I could throw names, but like they might not be available to the teams that have them.
It might be if it's for I might say, someone who's on kind of a win now team and isn't really on the market, So I know, I like this team though, like I know, you've got a lot of good players on buy this week.
But when you're when you've got the bye weeks out of the way and you're at full bore, like you're going to be able to put out a pretty decent lineup, And uh, I don't know, worm do we think Manonga has a chance to kind of unseat DeAndre Swift here?
Like he just like I run so hard man.
Speaker 2I named manong Guy.
Okay, I like Kyle Maanong Guy.
I would hesitate a little just because it was the Bengals defense right this is there was the gift that keeps on giving this season, So like, maybe dial back a little bit.
But I like Mananga the player.
I think it is possible that he unseats Swift at some point, but I wouldn't be making moves assuming it's going to happen.
But like I said, having said that, I also don't want to just get rid of him and sell high unless you're really getting a major upgrade for somebody who feels like this is happening and is desperate.
But Swift looked good the three weeks prior to getting hurt too, So I don't want to just assume that this is now Manonga's backfield, even though I do think it's on the table that that ultimately happens.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm with you there.
Speaker 1Let's go to a.
Speaker 2Question from cow Bell.
He's wondering, and he shared his roster here in the chat.
Some of the names on here at wide receiver, Keenan, Allen, Garrett Wilson, T Higgins, save You're worthy.
He's wondering if it makes sense with this roster to trade a twenty twenty seven first for Marvin Harrison junior.
He's got Caleb and Burrow, who's hurt for this year, of course, But so he's got Caleb and Jones as the starters at quarterback right now, Kyrien Kenneth Walker at running back.
You know, he has scataboo for the future, not for now.
So if it's when looking at this roster, would you move a twenty twenty seven first for Marvin Harrison Junior, who's coming off a nice game.
But of course that's what Jacoby Brissett, he is going to be the starter for now.
Who knows what the quarterback situation looks like long term.
Speaker 3Yeah, I I don't know that I would like.
I just I kind of do not want to give up a lot of re tickets in the twenty twenty seven draft.
And as like, I like this team, but I gotta imagine cow Bell that there are two to three teams at least with better rosters in your league.
So like, I if this is kind of a and I know Marvin Harrison Junior definitely has future value, but like, I don't want to give up on the Jeremy Jeremiah Smith lottery ticket or you know, I think I would rather have Ryan Williams if I could get him out of that draft, then Marvin Harrison Junior going forward, Like, Marvin Harrison is good, and Jacoby Brissett is kind of helping him live up to his promise, but I don't know.
I guess if he's kind of quarterback sensitive, well, that could be a problem because I don't know if Brissett is really going to be a long term answer for the Cardinals here.
And uh, you know, I like Harrison, I just don't know if he warrants giving up a first round pick in what could be one of the best draft classes we've ever seen.
I ultimately I agree with you.
Speaker 2I don't think this roster is going to be in the Jeremiah Smith sweepstakes because, like you think Burrow Scataboo coming back next year.
Guy like Trevon Henderson maybe gets more used to year, it doesn't feel like he'll be in the top you know, three picks there, so it is probably a later pick.
But it's such a good when you have guys like Jeremiah Smith.
What sometimes people don't think about as much is like it's not just that can you get a shot at a guy like Smith.
It's that because there's this generational guy, the other guys that would normally be like regular top three picks are now going with picks five, six, seven, right, Like it moves everybody else down when you have these insane studs at the top, and so the whole first round looks better as a result.
That happened with the twenty twenty four class, where you know, you had these real studs at the top, like you know, I know, as a panout this way, but guys like Caleb Williams and Martin Harrison Junior at the top, So then that pushes down like you were getting Bowers with pick seven or a you know you were getting Brian Thomas Junior and Lad McConkie, and with picks eleven and twelve, it just pushes everybody down when there's studs at the top.
So it's even if you're not in that range.
Something to keep in mind.
A question here from Sean.
My league is currently a tight end Premium PPR.
It's one point five for tight ends, very top heavy.
So the league is voted to go to super flex Premium still PPR tight end premium.
We're allowed to keep three players and then go startup draft from there.
He's leaning towards Bijon, Chase and Bowers as his three players that he's keeping.
Wondering what we think.
So some of the other players he has here, Drake May, Ashton Genty, Roma Dunza, Marvin Harrison Junior, Breese Hall.
Obviously, this is a very strong team, so he has lots of options.
Those are probably the only ones you're you're considering in addition to the names he mentioned, So what do you think fits?
I mean, the fact that it's going to super flex makes me think Drake May is a must, but Bijon, Chase and Bowers are pretty darn and excellent as well a normal team.
I would say Genti, Adunza, Harrison are also very worthy players to consider.
You can't even really consider them with how strong this is.
My initial reaction with this being super flex is I would lock in Drake May and just not think twice about it.
As hard as is to give up one of these three skill position guys and then just pick two of the other three.
My strategy is typically to not spend on running backs, so I would probably go Chase and then Bowers because it's side in premium.
I'm super open to pushback from you Fits if you'd rather keep Bijon or mix it up.
I think I think it's three of those four.
I think it's May and then the three names he mentioned, and then that those those are the ones you're picking from, So you got to cut one.
Speaker 3Yeah, Sean, as hard it as as it is to believe, like Bijeon would be the guy who's getting thrown out of the club for me in tight end premium, gotta keep gotta keep ours.
I know, I know it's amazing that you have to make a tough choice like that, but yeah, I mean, Drake May is just so good, like a top five maybe top three quarterback long term in super Flex, I just that's too value a property to let go of.
Bijon is awesome, Like there are no knits to pick on any of these guys you're you're choosing from.
You've got basically the best guy at every position.
Speaker 2And what's funny is like, well, I'm not even sure of like like I would I would say, like I would say, you have so many good guys, like maybe you try and trade for somebody else, but you're not going to upgrade on these guys because they number one at their.
Speaker 3Position, right right, So yeah, that's it exactly.
You can't possibly even if you did it two for one, yeah, like.
Speaker 2Maybe like Bijeon and Drake May for Josh Allen, Like, I mean, I don't know what you could do.
Speaker 3Right, right, So I would leave Bijon out because I do think it's the easiest to build depth at running back just sort of you know, through the draft, trading whatever.
But it's really hard to find a franchise quarterback like Drake May.
Speaker 2I think I think I would be picking And I don't know, Sean, if you've done super flex elsewhere before, or if this is the first time you're doing it.
Is it is really hard to get quarterbacks and super flex like that is nobody's ever willing to trade them.
So like if you have an elite guy, I would just go ahead and keep them.
Speaker 1I think I'd be picking between Jon and Chase.
Speaker 2Like like to me, May and Bowers would actually be my top two choices because it's side in premium.
To me, it's Bjeon and Chase, and I would just rather have Chase.
So you're in a good position.
You can't make the wrong decision here.
Another question you're from Bunting, Who are we buying or selling based on trade day hype seemed like mostly defense this year.
Underwhelming deadline for fantasy Obviously we had Rashid heat on the move today fits we had Ady Mitchell.
Maybe if you're a believer in a bilo with some more opportunity in New York, we had Jacoby Myers obviously was moved to the Jags.
Opportunity there with Hunter on ir and Brian Thomas Junior a little banged up and underperforming any any value that you find, Like, like Bunting said, either buying or selling based on some of the deadline moves today.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean I think Mitchell.
Ady Mitchell is a guy I'm kind of curious in because he was sort of buried with Indie.
He's just such a physical freak.
Oddly enough, that play where he sort of got into the doghouse for and like he wasn't even kind of showboating at the goal line like a Muri de Marcato was in the against the Titans in that game.
It seemed like maybe he was, but it seemed like he was just trying to inexplicably switch hand the ball from one hand to another right before the goal line.
But like that whole play was fantastic, like the catch and the run after.
This guy's a physical freak and I kind of want to invest in a guy like that.
And now he's going to a team where like the only other credible roster, credible wide receiver on the roster is Garrett Wilson, and so like that's almost ideal.
You've got like one receiver who's going to command all the defensive attention and like you can just settle in as the other receiver.
And I'm very intrigued by Ady Mitchell.
Speaker 2I am, I am somewhat intrigued in the idea of if he's I'll say you trade for on a very low cost, or if for some reason he was dropped, just depending on the size of your league.
I'm interested in going after Tory Horton in anticipation of people being less excited about him because of the Rashid Shih'd trade.
I would still be interested in trying to get Tory Horton on the cheap.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I like that idea too.
Yeah, I know that sort of throws cold water on what we thought could be a nice opportunity for Tory Horton.
And now he's going to be like a three or four once Shaheed is settled in and Cooper Cup comes back.
But Horton has shown us something I think like he belongs for sure, and he's gonna talk about a place for himself.
So I agree, you could probably get him pretty cheaply after today fits.
Speaker 2Let's speed through the rest of these chat questions, then call a couple of folks up on stages and get out of here.
One of these questions here in the chat, I traded Jmo for Shaheed pre trade news, How how did I do?
Speaker 3Trying to think of how I feel about this one worm, Like I feel like Jamo, Jamo got the coach speak like you know from John Morton the Lions.
Oh see, I failed him.
I filled him and then immediately as like sixty six yards and a touchdown the next game.
Like I just.
Speaker 1I'd rather have James D.
Williams like I got this trade.
Speaker 3Yeah, I kind of think I would too, t dub Like not a big gap there, but just you know, Jamo is still young.
I know he's kind of a knucklehead and like there it's been kind of a roller coaster ride with him.
I get it and wanting to get out from under that.
But I think there's maybe a little more upside with Jmo mans A.
Really he's a really underrated player though, Like I don't wanna, I don't wanna dump on him, Like it's it's close.
Speaker 2Yeah, mana Mitch asks, speaking of the Jaguars when we talked mentioned them earlier, what would be fair to ask for shopping Way Parker Washington.
Speaker 3Probably not a lot A third twenty twenty six third.
Speaker 1If you can get a third, take it, you're not gonna get more than that.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's interesting.
I mean, he could be a useful PPR guy.
It just depends where he eventually.
Speaker 2I mean, maybe you find a team that a manager that's had some injuries at the receiver position and could really use the help.
But yeah, I wouldn't set your sights too high and get your hopes up for anything crazy there.
Bunting asked, would you guys do Flowers in a second for Nico even with Stroud hurt?
Speaker 1I would.
I would trade Flowers go.
Speaker 3I would too.
Speaker 2I like that better long term.
I think you may even make an argument that it'll be better this year.
Like again, I've said this a whole bunch.
Flowers is a great real life player, and I get that he is going to get a lot of usage, but it's a high target share in a low volume passing game, and he does not get red zone work.
Save Flowers, I would be surprised if he has more than one season in his career with ten plus touchdowns.
And I don't even think he gets that ever.
Like, I just really do not think he's ever going to be a touchdown guy, and that is going to limit his ceiling.
So yes, I love I love the idea of Flowers in his Psychophnico, even with Stroud's injury from MO.
Would you guys trade away Twoton and a twenty six early mid first for a chan full PPR.
I think I would.
Yes, Yeah, I've been lower on eight Chan than you fits, but I would still do this, So I'm sure you will.
Speaker 3Yeah, And I'm more than willing to trade away twenty twenty six first for.
Speaker 2Really good full PPR.
This is really this is extra appealing.
Last question the chat here from a dub.
Then we'll get to the folks to call him up on stages.
He asks, would you try to find a trade partner for elite players like Josh Allen if you're in rebuild mode or maybe Flowers, who I'm lower on just trying to properly rebuild.
You can take a look at his team in the chat.
I wonder if okay, so he's saying to trade away out all right?
I had missed, right, I was.
I thought he had meant to trade for them as a rebuilder.
Yes, Alan is maybe a little different because in super Flex like that's the number one pick in a startup like I think I would just keep him even rebuilding a guy like Flowers if you can get good value back, I am definitely happy to trade as a rebuilding team, even though it's not like he's that old, you know, looking at the rest of the team, like it's mostly younger guys anyway, So I think you've, you know, not that there's a ton of depth on this team yet you have a way to go.
This is a rebuilding team.
But you got some pieces like o Marion Hampton.
You know, obviously Josh Allen is gonna be good for a while.
Aronda Gadston looks good.
Speaker 1So I think a.
Speaker 2Guy like Flowers I would look to trade off this roster p Checko.
I would look to trade as a running back needy team once he gets healthy again.
I probably wouldn't do it this week obviously, and beyond that, you know, like just kind of get some draft picks where you can here and there to take some extra things.
I probably would not trade Allan.
I would, yeah, yeah, I would not trade Allen.
Speaker 1You what do you think fits?
Speaker 3Yeah, that's the thing.
I mean, there's some good young pieces here.
But if you trade away Josh Allen, you are really down to the tear down.
You're tearing it down to the studs.
There's nothing left.
And by the time you get even to the point where you can be competitive with this team a dub like those young guys are not going to be as young anymore and they're going to be like in their prime, and you know, you may or may not still have a contender.
So Allan is such a key engine in a super flex thing, like I'd try to do it without getting rid of him.
Speaker 2And also the twenty twenty six class doesn't look that strong, so like getting a first round pick there from a contender.
There will be good players, but it's not like this is, you know, the twenty twenty seven class we're talking about where you think there's going to be a budget of cornerstone pieces.
So since part of that deal in return I'm sure would be a twenty twenty six pick, that makes it even a little less exciting to me.
So yeah, I would.
I would not do that personally.
Last one in the chat.
Then we'll call up these names, Jefferson in a twenty twenty six third for London and Bucky Irving.
What do you think about that deal?
Speaker 3Yeah, I'll take the London Bucky side of that.
Yeah, I like Jefferson clearly better than London, Yes, but like Bucky twenty twenty six third is ye zero and like Bucky more than bridges the gap for me, let's Jefferson in London.
Speaker 2Yeah, and we still don't really know what the passing game is going to look like for Minnesota long term.
Like I know, JJ McCarthy's coming off this good game that everybody's excited about because he got three touchdowns, he's still threw for under one hundred and sixty passing yard.
It's like, I don't know what this is going to look like long term yet.
I'm not saying it's gonna be bad, but that is a question mark.
So yeah, I would make that trade.
Yeah, all right, let's call up some folks on stages and then we'll get out of here.
Speaker 1Let's see calling up herbs and cheese.
Speaker 5Hey guys, So I just dropped my team in the chat.
Have a team that looks like probably the second or best team in this ten team league, trying to decide what to do for the season with trying to give up a draft pick.
I have one of the teams that looks like it's going to be the third or fourth overall pick this year.
So I'm trying to shop that but not getting great value out of that.
Would someone like Javonte Williams be high enough upgrade to give up the top three pick possibly, or would you kind of write it out or maybe a couple of thirds for like a Jalen Warren type instead of the top pick for a Javante.
Looking at a.
Speaker 3Team like that, I'd rather go the Jalen Warren approach, and boy, this team Herbs looks fantastic, Like this is a really well put together team.
So yeah, I mean, I I mean, you could make a case that Jalen Warren is like nearly as valuable as Javante, Like I don't think it's a huge gap between them in the here and I just even though I'm not crazy about the twenty twenty six draft.
Speaker 2Top three or four, like that's gonna be you know, Jordan Tyson or Carnel Tate or whoever Kidi one is, Like, there will be some names there that I would probably not want to give up on for somebody like Javante.
If it was like, hey, this is probably going to be like the eleventh or twelfth pick in the draft, and I'm stacked except for RB two as the last position I need, and there's a little more desperation, I might be willing to move a first for Javonte, but I probably wouldn't for a pick that high, especially when you know you there's not as much of a need, right Like you have Kenneth Walker on this team, you have Chase Brown on this team.
It's not like you are absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel already.
I do like the idea of adding somebody.
So if you could add somebody like Warren for a couple of lower picks, I do like that a lot.
Javonte like for a pick that high, I just probably can't quite get there.
Speaker 3Yep, I'm with you on that, gotcha.
Speaker 5So would you like I have twenty six, I have two thirds and another second from another team, So would you be willing to do like a second and two thirds for type war and or is that too much?
I'm not having gone asking to see what the manager wants for it.
But if push came to shove, would that be overpay for you to give up second and two thirds?
Speaker 3Or I would do it.
You're so deep that I don't think you're going to miss the picks that much.
Speaker 2I offer a second and one third and then say, you know, if he says no, say well, what if I threw in another third to give you three picks total?
Like maybe start off just like with two of those picks and then throw in the third to try and get over the top.
Would be my strategy, But yeah, I would ultimately if he insisted on it, I'd be willing to do all three picks same.
Speaker 5I got one other quick one, let the other guy come up.
So different team, another dynasty league.
I've been waiting it out with Nashion Gent as my RB one, so finally had a good week this week, but I'm still I'm in the last playoff spot right now there.
Do you trust rest of season Gent?
Or would you be willing to move off too late?
First twenty six?
So I was thinking about possibly offering one or two of those in Gent for like a Jamior Gibbs, like one of the elite of the elite guys for the current season.
Do you believe in Gent rest of season or if I'm going to make a run, would you be trying to package him for one of the really top tier guys.
Speaker 3If you're just holding on to the last playoff spot, Like, I don't know if i'd want to give up genty and of twenty twenty six.
First, you know what I mean to get Gibbs, Like, that's kind of a sellout move for a title and if you're just like kind of fighting to make the playoffs.
Plus, like you can't role out like a gent run down the stretch here.
I know the offensive line is probably not where we want it to be quite yet, especially with Colton Miller hurt.
But man, don't you think that seems like a little a little too much worm for maybe a team that's not like so your other team.
I mean, like that team, Like if Gibbs was like the final piece, I would be like, yeah, I do it, because you know what, like, this team is absolutely a title winner if you get that final piece and I have Jamior Gibbs at that last spot.
But for a team that's just barely getting into the playoffs, I don't think I want to make that move.
Speaker 2Yeah, I would say, Like there are most of the running backs in the NFL, barring injury, there's no way they finished the rest of the season higher than you know, scoring more Fantasy points than Gibbs.
Jentty is one of the few that, while he's not ranked that way, our jaws would not be on the floor if he outscored Gibbs rest of season, like he is that good and just hasn't quite had that you know, full on breakout into like, you know, mega elite status yet.
I did a show earlier today with Andrew Rickson.
It's a redraft show, but it was talking buys and sells, and one of his two favorite running backs to buy right now is Ashton Gent.
You know, second half of the season as a rookie is something he likes to target.
The playoff schedule is very enticing for Ashon Genty this year in terms of the defenses against running backs.
So Ericson was like, really big on Genty in the second half anyway, if it was like Genty in a second, you know, Gibbs is that good?
That sure, but Genty in a first does feel like a lot.
And there's a world where Genty outscores him this year anyway, with Montgomery still there and everything, So I would probably lean again.
I don't think it's crazy, but I would lean.
Speaker 1I would lean.
Speaker 5No, got it, Thanks guys, co pets.
Speaker 1Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2All right, we will bring up Ruck and then we will get out of here.
It looks like he dropped his team in the chat.
Speaker 4Yeah, it just popped in the chat.
So I'm in this position, and actually speaking of Ericson, I'm in this league with Andrew Erickson, Elvin Ryan, a couple of the other analysts.
As you can tell, it's a so it's the super Flex IDP League.
Teams are pretty deep.
Actually in a couple of trade talks now, with my running back situation, I've been I've been able to survive without Hampton as my RB two.
I got Vijon and Hampton and my wide receiver situation, I'm feeling really good on I'm making a push for this year.
I'm in win now with Pooka, Rice London, Harrison Junior in a lave and I was actually gonna try and cash in on Craft after this week, but with the injury, I'm not sure how much I can get for him.
Anyway, the question here, I'm not going to make a push.
I'm selling draft capital.
I'm trying to get into the upper echelon of the QB tier for super Flex and or you know, try and move like you know Harrison Junior, and you know, however many picks it takes to get a guy like like JSN just really top off the roster for a guy like Drake May.
And then in this league where I know I'm gonna have to overpay, you know, based on just who's in it and what qubs mean and super flex, where should I be, Like, I know I'm gonna have to overpay?
What do you think too much is in terms of my like my draft capital, I'd love to hold on A twenty twenty seven, but I know that my twenty twenty seven picks are probably a little more about these guys and I you know, I'd ideally like to move Harrison, O Lave or Johnston.
I feel like they have, you know, maybe some some good potential sell high value right now, what do you guys think?
Speaker 3I think you would probably have to give up twenty twenty six first, twenty twenty seven first and more juice to get Drake May.
Maybe those two who were some of the other guys who were talking about not Marvin Harrison Junior.
That might be too much.
Ve those picks A lave like to first plus a lave like It's gonna take a lot to get May.
I guess I would be if I were you, I might be me.
I mean, I know, May could be like a a decisive blow, but I'd almost be looking to go for someone more like Baker Mayfield, who I would have to pay less for.
And could you get you to the Promised Land this year?
You know what I mean?
So is a consideration.
Speaker 2It looks like he doesn't have a twenty twenty six first based on this screenshot, so if you're moving a first, it would have to be twenty twenty seven, or if somebody was willing to wait till twenty twenty eight.
So that does complicate things trying to get a quarterback in Superflex.
At least try to get a good one.
I agree with you that that feels like the that's the spot to attack right like it's a It's a pretty strong roster everywhere else clearly, And if you could, if you could slot Jordan Love as your QB two instead of your QB one, that looks a lot better.
But without that twenty twenty six first, if you really want to hold onto the twenty twenty seven first, you just have to set your site's lower or be willing to pay more out of current players as opposed to draft capital.
Speaker 3What about Mayfield and just spitballing or something like Mayfield and JSN for a twenty twenty seven first in Tucker Craft.
How would you feel about that?
Worm?
Do you think it's balanced?
Speaker 2I'd rather have the JSN side if you could do it with Mayfield.
Speaker 3Yeah, but like for a rebuilder, that's pretty I know you're getting rid of JSN, but Craft and twenty twenty seven first, Yeah, maybe that's not enough.
Speaker 4Maybe that's funnily enough.
The Mayfield owner also owns JSN, but he also has Tyler Warrens, so that's he's feeling pretty strong there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4And then actually Ericson is the one that has Drake may in the league.
I do have a lot of stockpile of Yeah, probably not getting ringing it out of his hands.
The uh just based on what I've heard from so far.
Yeah, the Mayfield owner has Kate is sitting on Caleb Williams Mayfield, but and Bo Nicks with not not too much of a bench behind him.
That's the thing is is the top end of this league has like Lamar Jackson and then a bunch of Jags and then Josh Allen and then a bunch of Jags.
Like nobody really has a solid Oh they're swimming in QBS except for the Mayfield owner.
Speaker 3Did I miss it or did you have your two qbs right now?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 1You have dak Oh I missed that.
Speaker 3I totally missed out.
Speaker 1Yeah, because he's on Bay, I wasn't highlighted.
I wrote it right over.
Speaker 2Okay, so that's better than I thought.
I thought it was Love and Panix as the two Dax.
It would be nice to upgrade, but that is more tenable than I had realized, too, So maybe not as desperate to get that one spot upgraded.
Speaker 3Yeah, I would almost prioritize getting that last hammer at wide receiver and getting like JSN.
And plus obviously JSN has immense future value too.
Speaker 4So in that regard, like like JSN, I know with the Shaheed News a lave has a little bit of a bump, but I'm not sure that that gets done with him.
I'd probably be offering, you know, somewhere closer to Marv or even even like one of my top guys like London, and then like a second or third do it?
Would you, guys Whilch?
If I was to offer like Marvin a second or Marvin at twenty twenty eight first for JSN, are you he is in a in a rebuilding position.
Would you take that if you're the JSN manager, I would not.
Speaker 1I probably wouldn't take it.
Speaker 2I don't think it's the worst idea depending on who the manager is to offer it and see what their interest is and maybe they tell you, hey, that's really close.
Something else gets it over the top.
If they're a rebuilder, like obviously they don't want to move off JSN, but getting up in an extra first rounder is not the worst.
Like like I would, I would say no to that if I was that manager, But maybe not the worst idea just to offer and get a conversation starter, or do you think it's like insulting offer fits and you wouldn't even bother?
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 3If if you threw Tucker Craft into that, I think I would have least have my attention like I would, It would be a pretty quick no for me.
If it was just Marvin Harrison in the twenty twenty eight first I like JSN too much.
You threw Kraft into it, I'd have to at least think about it, all right, Ye.
Speaker 4All right, so I'll eye up that like that value range for this software for pushing over the top.
Speaker 2Thanks guys, no problem, Thanks for us Rock all right, Fits, we went a little long, as we seemingly always do what we only do this once a month, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1We will get out of here on that though.
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