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Episode 425 | New Edition

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Speaker 1

The volume, no.

Speaker 2

Cheers, welcome back.

Speaker 1

That was Oh my asses are back.

All the nova cane has worn off.

We're still getting used to the tempts though.

Okay, but oh there's still the tempts.

They're not the real ones.

Yeah, I don't get the real ones till the day before Thanksgiving.

You got fake teeth?

Speaker 2

Can I see him?

Speaker 1

It's just my teeth, but they're just fake.

No, I'm serious.

It's just a mold of what my teeth were before, but it's they're fake.

Yeah, while they make like the real veneers and everything.

Do you like?

Yes, I have fake the change?

Speaker 2

Do you like the change?

Speaker 1

There's really there's no change now.

They're just fake, Like it's literally a mold of what my teeth were before, like chips and all are still here, but they're just like fake.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, so there's nothing to be excited about yet.

Speaker 1

No.

So yeah, now I'm just getting used to even having the tempts because you can you can feel it.

Speaker 2

You had dentures, Can you take them out?

Speaker 3

And in No, No, they're like you have dentures.

He doesn't have dentes to matters.

They're like, it's just me, you only have gumsy and mouth like you don't have no teeth.

He has teeth in his mouth.

Speaker 1

Oh okay, this isn't a plug, but how great they were.

They did throw in a mouthguard for free, which I didn't know.

Mouthguards are like five hundred bucks.

Oh, because apparently just a very calm human being like me, you would be surprised.

You know, I grind my teeth at night, like when I sleep.

I'm not me, I do too.

Yeah, so I need to get my teeth as well.

So I need to get a mouthguard.

Do you sleep the one?

I was thinking about it though, I don't know.

I feel like I won't be able to sleep if I have.

I feel like I'm a football practice.

It's not well yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 3

It's a mouthpiece, but it's not as I don't think it's as obnoxious as a football mouthpiece.

Speaker 1

Though, And what if, like you know, sometimes when you're sleeping with your soulmate, sometimes the middle of the night, like sometimes the mood arises, Like then I got to take the mouthguard out.

Speaker 3

You wake up in the middle of night to have sex?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean now, because I'm not having sex with anyone.

But once I'm sleep, I'm sleep.

See you on the other shoe.

I've never had some time see you on the other side of the moon.

Dabe Malls definitely had some rollover loving when you just roll over in the middle of the night.

Speaker 3

Yeah, in the morning, like it's like the sun push your butt on, not like not night.

If we go to sleep at twelve, I'm not waking up at three thirty, like yo, it was good.

Speaker 1

Like really no, I'm sound like a frequent thing, but yeah, it's definitely happened multiple times when you're like in a relationship.

Speaker 3

Now we're doing like Bedrock Sundays, I'll go to sleep and wake up and like and it felt like it was like a whole new day and it was like you just left.

Especially now like you take do you fall asleep at two thirty on a Sunday and wake up at six you think it's a whole new day.

Yeah, it's like, yo, what it's nine thirty, Like six fifteen.

Speaker 2

You wake up mad confused to like looking.

Speaker 3

At it dark and feel like, you know, it slept ten hours four hours in the past, especially now when it goes you know, when it gets dark around four thirty.

Yeah, they got to get rid of rid of that daylight saving.

Shit, I'm on that side now.

Speaker 1

I'm with you.

Speaker 3

But it's amazing the things like I'm on the side of now as an adult, like, yeah, we can get rid of daylight savings.

Once I found out people in Arizona don't know nothing about that, I was.

Speaker 1

Like, is that true?

They don't do that?

No, okay, what is it for farmers and crops or something which I still never fully understood.

I'm sure there's a deeper conspiracy to it that is insane.

It probably something to do with the roth Child's I could just say definitely, because even though it's only in a mass, something to do with our banking system.

I'm sure.

Speaker 4

It's just very simple.

It's very simple.

People who wake up y'all don't wake up in the morning to go to work.

But people who wake up in the morning to go to work, they want a little bit of light to when they go, like to work.

Speaker 1

Now, yes, right in the morning in the winter, it's dark, Like I remember walking to the bus stop and it'd be dark.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it would be darker and it would take longer to get light if they didn't do daylight savings.

Speaker 3

Okay, So it says the historical and traditional purposes, it was to save energy.

The original goal was to conserve fuel and energy by decreasing reliance on artificial lighting, maximize evening daylight.

Shifting clocks for it creates more usable daylight in the evening, which was thought to encourage which was thought to encourage outdoor activities after the workday.

Makes sense.

You like to go out after work?

Baby?

Do you need a little sunlight still out?

Speaker 1

Well?

I mean I kind of maybe it's just the morbid in me.

I do like in the winter that it gets darker earlier, Like let's let's close the day a little earlier.

Summer I love, I love where it could stay light till eight pm.

That's amazing.

It's a summer, let's be outside.

But in the wintertime and it's cold, Yeah, let's shut this stay down around four forty five.

Speaker 3

I never know.

I never know how many people I knew they had seasonal depression, Like I know a lot of people.

I'm just like, and I'm starting to notice it, Like I'm like, oh, you have seasonal depression, like you you get into a little funk around the fall, like summer, spring, total different person, four winter.

Speaker 1

No, they called me four seasons it's not a seasonal things.

That's four seasons.

No, they call you something else?

What you want to come to work?

Speaker 4

No more?

Speaker 3

Man, we want to come to work at the workplace.

When I leave, when I get hold, what the fuck man, I can't do ship.

It's work depression.

I got work depression.

Speaker 1

But no, seasonal opressions is definitely real.

Speaker 2

Well you don't.

You don't suffer from seasonal depression at all.

Speaker 3

No, I'm just depressed all year round, all four seasons.

I don't care what it's doing outside.

Fuck y'all.

Speaker 1

Oh that's how I give it up.

So you finally admit that depression is real.

Yeah, depression, better better help me have you back after all?

No, No, I said suicide.

Here we go with suicide.

I didn't say what all I said was suicide.

I didn't say what mm hmm.

Called Rory.

Had better help.

When you're referring to the doors, it won't let me work there.

They won't won't let me work.

You work there?

Just called Rory, He'll help you out.

I mean, do you think seasonal pression comes from having to be inside or just cold in general?

Lack?

I think the hoes like to be naked and when they can't be naked no more.

They got you know, I don't know if that's really what we define seasonal pressure, but I see they make the culture.

They can't show well some whole show ass, I mean show ass in your house.

I think it's maybe probably just yes what well, actually, yes, the magic the OnlyFans dot Com Forward slash everybody.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you can definitely pay bills from home for sure.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

They probably get more work done in the winter, of course.

Yeah, unless we've flown out.

Yeah, it's the busy season.

Actually, I'm sure winter is their busy season.

No, it's all the guys are inside, not doing ship.

Everybody's depressed, just hand.

Speaker 3

That's like their tax season, just hammering their hogs.

Speaker 2

So seasonal depression sick.

Speaker 4

Seasonal depression is caused by disruption in the body's internal clock, primarily due to reduce sunlight during certain seasons, which can lead to imbalances and the brain chemical serotonin and melatonin.

Speaker 3

Oh see, that's why we got to get rid of daylight savings.

There's nothing so help seasonal depression.

Speaker 4

Okay, So so baby, they we are we are gonna lose like darkness.

I mean we're gonna it was light no matter what, whether we observe daylight.

Speaker 2

Savings or not.

Speaker 4

Daylight savings is to try to give you a little bit more light during the day.

Speaker 2

There's it'll be the same amount of light no matter.

Speaker 4

What, but they change the clock so that you get a longer day.

Speaker 2

Are you seeing what I'm saying?

Save amount of light?

Speaker 3

Somebody in Arizona see how this affects them because they know nothing about it.

Speaker 4

They don't know they don't observe daylight savings time, but they also get a different amount of sunlight than us.

They're on a totally different coast.

They're a totally different part of the world for their.

Speaker 1

Coast part of the world.

I mean, it's like a two.

Speaker 3

Hour flight Arizona, Arizona is like a four and a half hour depending on what you are well, I mean if you're in Nevada.

Yeah, I thought you were referring to where we were at the this year, right, same shit.

Speaker 4

But yeah, like the light, the amount of light we get will be different.

It's just when you see that light will be at different times.

Speaker 1

Is that that town that went viral on the grounds?

Speaker 3

Let's see what the groundhogs think?

Speaker 1

Is there groundhogs in the Arizona Desert a whole.

The rattlesnake shadow tells them that the cat has the town made it to y'all algorithm on Instagram.

It's like the town that has twenty four hour sunlight for half the year and then like twenty four hour darkness for the other half.

I've heard everyone leaves their watches at the bridge because they no longer need this.

I don't believe that's a bro No, No, The whole video is certainly AI, but I wasn't sure if it was really a town or not.

It's it's not Alaska, it's it's somewhere Alaska.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there's a couple of.

Speaker 1

Them, including j Barrow.

Speaker 3

That's Alaska.

That's on Long Year begin Valordsval.

Speaker 4

His name in the place Long Years, funniest ship.

Speaker 1

Long Year.

And you do get to like the root of a lot of names, not the western ones that we changed, like York and Jersey, but like the real names.

Yeah, they're all very simple, like it's green here, that's what the word means.

Speaker 3

In Norway, Trump's Norway.

The city experience is the midnight sun for about two months.

Speaker 1

I think that's the one, the Norway one.

What was crazy because they showed like all this winter shit and they were like, sometimes you can see people playing soccer at four am, and I'm like, it's nothing but mountains of snow and the shit who's playing soccer?

So that's why I didn't know if it was real.

Would you do the Antarctica trip?

I know the flat earthers did it and became non flat earthers, but they saw the twenty four hours, so.

Speaker 3

I would do that trip.

I don't know if I want to see that.

Speaker 1

I would just want to see Antarctica and maximize my time by seeing it because it never gets dark.

Speaker 3

Antarctica I would like to see, But I don't know if I want to see a sun for fucking six was it six weeks straight?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Experience the sun though for about two months?

Well yeah six weeks, nah, eight weeks, but that's what I'm saying.

The city experience is the midnight sun for about two months during the summer.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

No, I wouldn't want that.

I don't want to see the sun for two months straight.

Speaker 2

I would.

Speaker 4

The sun makes me happy, The sun gets me up.

If it's a I can always tell if it's raining before I open my fucking eyes.

Because I have such a hard time hurting up.

Speaker 1

You know, old black mothers like to tell you it's gonna rain.

Speaker 3

No be the knee, her knee, the knee, sirted feet, back, arm.

Speaker 1

But we needed this, we needed this, yeah, the middle New York City, we needed this, We.

Speaker 3

Needed this ring.

Speaker 1

No, now it's just dirty or here.

Speaker 3

No, I think the rain clean cleans New York.

It brings, it brings up all the dirt.

Speaker 1

No.

Speaker 3

I mean sometimes these sidewalks be so filthy, like I know, I know when it needs to like down poor rain, Like you can see juice on the sidewalk for three four days.

I'm like, all right, bro Like.

Speaker 4

But the way it's been downpouring in New York not to be too local, and it's been flooding.

Speaker 2

New York's been flooding.

That's weird as fuck.

Like why it was all.

Speaker 3

The leaves that was like, they don't they're not cleaning the drains.

I knew that was gonna happen on Like you still see so many leaves.

I'm like, like, where the street clean is the street sweepers at?

I don't even see those no more like.

Speaker 1

That you do when you're about to get a parking ticket.

They just pop up.

Speaker 3

But that's the only time to feel they're like bloody marry in the mirror.

Have you ever looked at the street sweepers, Like sometimes the brush is not even hitting us the street.

They just and I'm like, well, you're not clean and shit, you just you just circling the block.

Speaker 1

I'm going to take a video next time on my block of when the street sweepers call.

They literally it's like if you just went in a dusty ass kitchen and just went like this and then walked out.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's like that we could get I think we could get rid of it.

Speaker 1

They leave like a wet line and then all the trash, dust and dirt there too.

Now there's just a wet line.

That's all they do.

Sometimes the brush is like not even hitting the street, it's just moving.

Speaker 3

It's not I've noticed that for years.

I'm like, I don't don't think I think we can get rid of this part of the sanity.

Speaker 1

Or just like a new version of it that like sucks up the garbage or like I just feel like that's one thing that they have not advanced when they could have with street sweepers.

Yeah, but I mean I'm Donnie's gonna do it.

Donnie's gonna We'll probably be able to just just walk into a street sweeper.

They probably just parking with theyre using the ignition and you can just do it yourself.

Speaker 3

They're gonna use you for a street but that's what you about to be the street sweeper, that's for sure.

But uh, where are we at?

I know it's been a sort of a slow news week.

Speaker 2

Why yeah you telling me Usher and Brian Michael Cox's beefing?

Speaker 3

They not beefing?

Ain't I beefing?

You got to be Cox?

Be Cox posted a he he posted a response to it.

Okay, well I think a company.

He was like that was like like a minority like investor into something like that in Usher going through something.

Speaker 1

It's not Brian Michael Cox specifically, but still involved.

So for those that haven't read this, Brian Michael Cox and his company, we're trying to open up like a restaurant lounge in Buckhead, Atlanta.

Usher invested one point seven million dollars into it.

A year passes and nobody even bought a property.

So Usher's like, yeah, let me get my money back.

I believe they gave him a million back, but not the other seven hundred thousand, and now he's suing for four point nine million in damages because he hasn't received this seven hundred thousand dollars back.

I did not see what be Cox's response was.

If you want to fill them in on that and fill me up.

Speaker 3

Oh no, he just he just posted that him and Usher's relationship is still very much intact.

It was just, you know, a company that he or a venture that he was there goes right here.

I've learned a lot recently about being careful with who you choose to invest in a business with, no matter how small the investment.

I'm currently in the middle of a failed deal that I didn't orchestrate, and while the situation has been disappointed, I know my name will be cleared by both sides.

It's just unfortunate that this clarity didn't come sooner.

My legal team has also advised me of a lawsuit involving in company where I am only a passive minority shareholder.

I was not a participant in that business transaction and have no involvement in the ongoing legal process.

While I'm unable to share more details right now, I want to make one thing absolutely clear.

My twenty seven year friendship with Usher remains fully intact.

I appreciate everyone who has reached out with concern.

Thank you for the love, the patience and understanding.

So yeah, it just sounds like, you know, they had as friends, they had an idea to open the lounge, you know, try to do something together, and sometimes you know, things don't go away everyone had anticipated or hoped and Usha is probably like, all right, well shit, I want my money back.

And you know, because Michael Brian Michael Cox is a minority shareholder in this investment, and you know they're gonna attach it to Brian Michael Cox as well.

But I was glad that he to see that because when I first read it, I was like, damn be Cox and Usher's beefing, Like, oh man, but this is.

Speaker 1

Just a could lead to some good writing material.

Speaker 3

Yeah, this is just a business venture that just didn't go the way I think all parties anticipated.

And Usher is seeking to get his money back, and Brian Michael Cox is just a part of the the investment.

Speaker 1

Josh, can you pull up on YouTube because you don't got to be specific YouTube division.

If I get caught DVSN hmm, not the Division sign if I get caught, so damarus.

When I read this article, initially it said that the money was used for other things, and then it brought me back to how expensive that video Division did with Mal with Friends of the Show Lex Andrea, Like, this was a really expensive video.

And when the article said the money was used for other things, now I'm starting to think ba Cox maybe paid Mall a little extra from his fee to get him to Atlanta and do this video.

Are you a minority share owner in this company as well?

Speaker 5

Mo?

Speaker 1

No, I ain't like that.

Speaker 3

No, I have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1

I feel like you were shocked.

I just connected all the dots and you've been caught this video if I get called ironically is the name of the song?

Speaker 3

No, that that is the name of the song which has Mal has nothing to do.

Speaker 1

I mean, be guy's right there right next to you.

Everyone looks at the guy.

Everyone looks like they have a lot of money in this video.

Yeah, that that had nothing to do with me, Like, like I could do whatever with it.

Speaker 3

We had a great time, had a great day shooting, and everybody went home and that was it, all right.

Speaker 1

But did you see a card come out who like put the build during this whole thing.

Are you ever concerned and look at this car?

Speaker 3

What type of this you would have to I believe that was a my box Okay, yes, unless they reboop him my ride.

Speaker 1

I've never seen a mayback with a hookah dispensary in it.

That seems like something that you would have to pay high dollar for.

I'm around like one point seven million.

This is kind of what this video felt like to me.

That was a Daniel exclusive right there.

Speaker 3

The way they had that just take that, the way they had that ship taped in the back.

I was like, I don't think niggas smoke cucka in the car, but whoever own.

Speaker 1

That mayback, shout out to them, because you know people will bring their cars to video shoots to rent them out.

Imagine you got your mayback at a video shoot.

You see someone lighting a coal, I would lose my fucking mind.

No he did, though I know he was smoking hooka in that.

Homie was like really nervous about that.

That whoka the whole night.

Was it electronic or it was really cold?

I think it.

I think it might have been real cold.

Speaker 2

He wouldn't have been nervous about electronic.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think it, but I think it was real cold.

But you know they had the foil with it up where it wouldn't like fall off one speed bump and buckhead is sending that cold in the mall's lap.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Sometimes though we had a good time shoot never do Okay, so you.

Speaker 1

Can assure that this this came directly from LVRN.

Speaker 3

O v O.

Yes, the thing I think LVRN, you know, covered this and everything was fine.

Speaker 1

I mean tax records, I think are public.

If you're a questioning, we can we can do some digging.

Speaker 4

What you mean if I get caught cheating, I don't mean I don't love you like it just be shit.

That just don't make sense that you turn into a song.

Speaker 3

I don't mean think I think they're a pretty director.

What is there ast act whatever?

I was just wondering.

She ain't make no sense to me.

I'm sorry, y'all go back.

You think that if somebody teaching, that means they don't love you.

Speaker 4

I think that love is a is an action, and part of part of the verb of love is making a commitment, not only just the commitment, the honesty portion.

We go into that because I'm currently reading all about Love by Bell Hooks, and there's just so much more that goes into the verb love.

I think people can care about somebody, show affection system, and have feelings for somebody, but to actively verbally, I mean, as a verb love them.

Speaker 3

No, So you don't believe in making mistakes.

Speaker 4

I believe in making mistakes.

But cheating ainate a mistake, that's a choice.

Didn't take mad steps to get the cheating.

I know I cheated before mad steps.

Speaker 3

Sometimes the choices you make or turn out to be mistakes.

Speaker 4

No, because a mistake is something like damn, like I called you like mill and your name is Maul.

That's a mistake, Like I didn't mean to do it.

Speaker 1

You're never intentionally not intentionally made a mistake, but intentionally done something and then afterwards like that was a real mistake.

Even though I was very lucid in what I was doing, I now know that that was a complete mistake on my behalf.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4

It was a choice.

It just was a bad one.

It was a bad choice.

It wasn't a mistake.

It's accidentally you accidentally do something that's a mistake.

You just made a bad choice or a choice that you regret, it's not a mistake.

Speaker 3

So if you okay, So if you're out right now with your girls and you know, your party and dinner, having a good time doing what y'all do.

Speaker 1

A guy's at dinner.

Speaker 3

Somebody's friend is a guy, y'all start just flirting whatever, and you kiss him, but you're like, you're you know, you've been drinking.

Speaker 1

I'm just saying you've been drinking.

It's like, you know, you didn't.

Speaker 3

Really mean to kiss him, but then you realize right after kiss him, like damn, Like that was crazy, Like that's never happened.

Speaker 1

You never made mast.

Speaker 2

Steps to get to that kissing.

Speaker 4

It's mad because you had to feel something for that person before you even kiss them.

And the moment you had any type of feeling that was inappropriate or something that you or your partner didn't agree upon, you should have got the fuck up out of there and realized, WHOA, this is inappropriate?

Speaker 1

Okay?

I would say Gary V is a good good source of reference here right.

Gary V says a mistake is an unintentional error, often caused by oversight, misunderstanding, or lack of information, while a bad decision is a conscious, deliberate choice to do something wrong or with a poor outcome.

So a key role is intent and accountability.

Mistakes are accidents.

Bad decisions require ownership of the action and its consequences.

I'm mistakenly made a bad choice, you say.

Speaker 3

To that baby, d She's kick I'm sorry, my bad, sorry, I was what I think.

I'm sorry I didn't hear it.

And see, I'm gonna listen back just to hear what you just said, because I didn't say.

Speaker 2

I was just wondering.

Speaker 4

No, I was just I remember when you were in that music video and I was just like, look at what Mall's champion?

Speaker 3

Wait?

Speaker 1

What did he champion?

The song?

Speaker 2

That message?

Speaker 3

I was just hanging out with my homies for the night, Like I didn't.

Speaker 4

They labeled when they were casting the eight Ship best Friend, they said, I know who fits this Mall.

Speaker 3

Well he played it.

That's the wrong That's all they get.

They didn't mean to give me that title.

It was a restakingly good decisions.

Wait, it wasn't.

What was the end of the video, wasn't It ended up being like, no, my phone, it was your phone.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Drea found my I left my phone at the house and she thought it was Daniel's phone.

Speaker 3

So she was standing outside waiting for us to get back so she could raise Hell, she's already like toy his ship up in the house, did all of that, and then we get back and I'm like, oh shit, damn, I left my phone, so it was like my phone.

I mean, I'm the single friends girls, Yeah, girls could be texting me, but she's thinking girls are texting Daniel's phone.

So yeah, I.

Speaker 1

Feel like you would know, as someone that has used that excuse when being abruptly woken up out of their sleep, I feel like you would know if this was your man's phone.

Speaker 2

Enough plot hole, because why ain't no text for me in there?

Speaker 1

You know, delete, deleting your girl's text messages and keeping the others the.

Speaker 3

Wildest Yeah no, but she didn't get into I think she stre like the lock screen, you can see the texts coming in, and she probably seemed like, you know, different girls texting, but you know something you know, but you're thinking, You're trying to think like logical, you know, in that moment when you already think your man is like doing dirt and you think you found the smoking gun and you don't realize that ain't his gun.

Like it's easy to like overlook the factly that ain't even his phone.

Speaker 4

Nah, nah, it's a plot hole in that.

I would know, you know they lived together.

It ain't like like they live together.

She knows what his phone looked like.

Speaker 1

Ah, he could have a second phone.

Let's pay that.

Speaker 3

No, that's a big that's that's big.

No, No, you got a second phone or your girl don't know you a whole new.

Speaker 1

Could have thought.

I just found Daniel's second phone, like, not his main phone, his other one.

Okay, so yeah, I don't think that's a pothole in the descript he found like he got two phones or.

Speaker 2

You say, you don't think it's so what pothole?

Plot plots hole?

Speaker 3

Yeah, but yes, we paid.

Can't paid that pothole.

The l's don't roll out to the new.

Speaker 2

I'm like.

Speaker 3

They left.

They let the l's at this office got to extra for Yeah, you gotta get your l's back.

Speaker 1

Glenndelle gave me a great discount with left the ls l's.

I gotta pay.

Speaker 3

That's a texture for that.

Speaker 4

I've never been in a music I feel like everybody on staff has been in a music video, but me, Uh yeah.

Speaker 3

Shut your own video.

That is true.

Speaker 4

You had a video before all of us.

That's whatever.

But I mean as an actor or actress, I've never been in a music video.

Y'all have y'all like video hos.

Speaker 1

Uh you've been in.

Speaker 2

A couple, you've been in your own, you've been in other people's.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, no, I've actually not I think about it.

I have been in a lot of music videos.

They gave more a lot of shit for that, and I just quietly sat like I've been way more doing way worse things than all music videos.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that was the homies.

It was just the homeie just hanging out for the day and just recorded it.

That's all that shit was literally hung out for the night.

It came out great and pressed record.

That's all of that was so.

Speaker 1

It was fun though we could stay on music.

I feel like we we were the trend setters for having brawls at shows that don't warrant it whatsoever.

In the greater DMV area.

We had a fight at our show at Howard theaterre was that last year, Yes, last year for some reason, there was a fight that broke out at a podcast show m HM.

That was resolved quickly and we continued on, nobody was harmed.

But then I see this morning that they were fighting at a Leon Thomas show, and Leon Thomas even put a comment under, so I got no songs that weren't the shit?

Yeah, like, what song was you fighting like?

I ain't got nothing in.

Speaker 3

His catalog that feels like knuck if you buck?

Like it ain't no reason for y'all to be fighting at a least.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to think what I like, what's the jakewan Hood hop beat?

That could be the same bpm in the Mutt Like maybe they did a remix and yeah.

Speaker 3

But the context, the lyrics, it's the vibe.

Speaker 1

Have a dog, I'm a mutt.

Let's fight, Yeah, but that ain't fighting at it.

Speaker 3

I never understood fighting at like shows like that, like definitely the live podcast, but then like an R and B show, see.

Speaker 1

Don't do that ye fight for letus Now we diffused it.

We almost got a fight at a Summer Walker show at Awerie Ballroom, like her first show ever, when it was only like fifty people in the crowd.

I almost all of us why it was definitely the other people's fault.

We diffused it because we were like, well, we're trying.

We're gonna about to fight at a summer Walker show.

Speaker 3

Oh I don't remember.

Speaker 1

We were upstairs and yeah it was it was their fault.

They were being weak, Okay, but yeah it was.

It was close.

Speaker 3

Now I'm now hold on because I could understand people fighting at an R and B show.

If you see your significant other day with somebody, you didn't think that they was Yeah, you know, it could be okay, I didn't think about that.

Yeah, it could be date night for somebody and you ain't know your you know, your buo was going out on something like it could be somebody got caught cheating.

Speaker 1

Can imagine imagine you see your girl's location and it's at the Fillmore in Maryland, you google, oh shit, Leon Thomas show, and then you try to go and the ticket sold out.

So now you're just sitting outside waiting for her.

I can't even go and surprise her.

Speaker 3

I'm not doing that.

I'm not sitting outside no show that I know my girl is that way for to come outside.

I just don't want that because I know me, man, I don't want that.

Speaker 1

Dressing in public would be a bit.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

I don't want that problem.

I don't want that.

I would just I mean, it's sometimes easy to just be like, yo, you know what, do your thing.

As hard as that is, you know, just do your thing.

I'm not going to jail for no, no pushy, I ain't doing that.

Speaker 1

But also don't do that.

There's words have been exchanged division shows before of people that claimed they could fight and that didn't want to.

But maybe it was because it was a division show that was the reason.

Who would fight at the R and B show?

But I mean, we're civilians.

That person is a certified thug, so I thought it was always old.

What do I know?

But yes, people fight at R and B shows.

Yes, And we definitely almost got shaken at a Summer Walker show, which is insane.

I don't remember at Bowery Ballroom, of all places, I don't remember that on the balcony too, there's not really much room to fight.

I can't remember that.

I mean, I do remember being able, I don't remember that almost fight.

Speaker 3

Well.

Speaker 1

I'm glad nobody was hurt.

And I feel for Leon too, because venues don't really research shit.

They just see headlines.

And it's like, now, Leon could look like a lie.

But even though obviously he's not was he able to finish the shut up a lot for artists.

Speaker 3

Was he able to finish the show that they didn't like fully say, but I mean, I just like the fact that he went online and shit, listen, I ain't got no songs that warrant.

Yeah, Like this is like I don't hear nothing that I was performing with warrants.

Try to stop?

Speaker 1

What was the was it when fifty was doing like his Vegas residency and they hooked him to the ship and he was flying like fifty has no songs for you, flying over the crowd.

Speaker 3

It's just weird when rappers start doing like pop artist ship think it's hilarious.

It's like what you doing?

Speaker 1

Man?

Speaker 3

Like why are you flying around the arena?

Speaker 1

We also don't talk enough about fifty being upside down.

You look at fifty knowing fifty, yeah, but.

Speaker 3

Knowing fifty he did this ship on purpose, like yeah, he know, like he know he ain't supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1

That, yo.

He was not that one like fifty.

No, he ain't supposed to be suspended midair and this looks like it's sound check.

He just chilling out, yo.

That is hilarious.

Doing that to many men would be hilarious just flying over and pointing at many men.

But I mean, if I was a superstar like fifty was and had the budget that he did at this point, I would just start checking things off my bucket list, like when he does these world tours.

I would just find the wildest things that I could do.

Speaker 3

Yeah, fifty ain't not supposed to be not supposed to be like suspended midair though.

Speaker 1

Like did you see the video of Chris Brown's mom when she wanted to do the look at me now run that he does in the stadiums Oh yeah, like before the show.

It's like an amusement park ride.

If I was on that tour, I would one thousand percent ask like, hey, like before y'all do sound check, you matter if I strap.

Speaker 3

End me up and spin me around the arena real quick and.

Speaker 1

Then give me a mic and let me try like to sing.

Speaker 4

Would y'all ry, do you plan on going to Leon's show?

I mean, I hope you not shooting hands, but you know he's here this weekend in New York.

Speaker 1

If I can get a vibsitter, yeah, I feel like Leon's been on tour for like three years straight, so he needs a break.

Yeah, and how is he putting out these amazing EPs while he's also singing every single night?

Yeah, I hope Leon takes twenty twenty six to like chill.

Where's he at this?

Speaker 3

Where's he at this week?

Speaker 1

You said this weekend?

Speaker 4

Yeah, he's here this weekend, He's here Sunday and Monday.

Where's he performing the Actually I am not sure.

Speaker 2

I'll look that up.

Speaker 3

I would definitely want to check me on out.

Love.

Speaker 2

Why you want to go with me?

Speaker 3

No, let's do it.

Speaker 1

No, I'll go fuck myself as cool at Brooklyn Paramount, which I mean, if you're listening to this, that the show has passed.

But Joey Badass is there tonight, which I know will be a good show.

Speaker 2

If you're listening to listening to this, the show has not passed.

Speaker 1

Joey Bass, Oh, joe is tonight.

As we're recording this, it'll pass by the time they hear this.

But yeah, Leon Thomas November twenty third is in Brooklyn and the twenty fourth as.

Speaker 3

Well, both at Brooklyn Paramount.

Speaker 1

Yeah, is he taking Thanksgiving off?

Speaker 4

At least they got the drinks and I'm going back to bag.

I hear lea wait, which which day is the twenty fourth.

Oh, I could do Monday.

Speaker 3

Ooh, I could do Monday.

Speaker 1

Monday is my day.

Ooh, I could do Monday when you don't really get very many games.

I heard, I heard it.

I heard the like it's a lot.

Like I can't go to the Joey Badass Show tonight, which I would love to, but I can't.

Yeah, that happens because surprisingly, in New York, most shows are during the week because they're going to sell out, whereas they try to focus on smaller markets for the weekend because they do better.

In New York, people are going out every night.

It doesn't matter.

So usually I have to miss most of the shows because they're they're during the week, but after work on Monday I usually have off.

So, like, should we go as a family?

I'm down.

When was the last time you were in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3

Last weekend?

Speaker 1

Oh?

Wow, okay, I'll bet Yeah.

Speaker 3

They know me in Brooklyn.

They love me out too, they know you?

Speaker 1

Yeah, they love me anyways to be a mall yeah you hell yeah.

Speaker 3

Brooklyniggas don't know you, bro.

Brooklyn niggas don't know you, bro.

You crazy?

You know what I used to be doing?

They know me, no, no, tell us No, definitely not Leon Thomas November twenty fourth and twenty third, But you I would definitely want to check me out out.

I like him.

I want to see his h what his live show looks like.

Speaker 1

Where do you think they don't know?

Speaker 3

You don't know me?

I mean, it's a lot of places they don't know me.

Not I mean New York.

It's very hard for me to go in a borrow and not know the right people because some of y'all be knowing people in burd Blaine White know that nigga.

Speaker 1

Fuck about that nigga and you know him?

Speaker 3

Man?

Speaker 1

Wait all right, So then what's the definition of they know me out there?

If somebody know me out there?

Don't they know me out there?

Speaker 3

No, But it's a difference.

It's like when you know the right people.

I get what you're saying, but but I don't know if the random random people don't know me, like nobody knows them the movers and shakers, Okay, got you got the people that niggas know know me?

Okay, yeah, all right, but what what is the line and the scale of that?

Like they have to be a part party promoter, they have to be like no party promoters.

I don't want no party promoters to know me.

Speaker 1

Usually, I'm saying you, Usually that's a front for something.

No, just like you know the guys.

You know the guys are talking about.

Speaker 3

They ain't afraid the guys.

Yeah, they not promoting no parties.

They don't want to be on no flyers.

They ain't doing that.

Speaker 1

Well, I guess I think I think they know me in Brooklyn.

Oh no, they ain't know me in Brooklyn.

Yeah, No, for sure.

Speaker 5

No.

Speaker 3

People in Brooklyn absolutely, Mom, when I said it's sound foreign.

Speaker 1

Because I wanted you to explain to the people with I know what you were trying to say.

But some people could take that as like, yeah, I got like two friends from college that live in Brooklyn.

They know.

Speaker 3

That's a whole different thing.

That's definitely not what I was saying.

Speaker 1

No, when you walk in you are protected.

Yes, they know malls and tell you I'm checking with him, just going.

Speaker 3

To see the family.

They want to see some good friends' so man times in Brooklyn, of course.

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Speaker 1

Let's stay since so Leon in Maryland, d C.

Did you see the Wiley clip?

I believe it was Breakfast Club right.

He was talking to Charlotmagne and he said that he was talking to Cole and Kendrick about you know, he has a child on the way, and talked about some of his problems and just venting to the homies.

And then the next fucking day j Cole put out false profits.

Mm hmm, can we play the clip?

Speaker 6

I remember I called Kendrick around that time.

We talked about like like we just had that was at that time, and I remember like like getting ready.

Speaker 3

To have my child.

Speaker 1

I talked cold.

Speaker 6

That was probably only two times I really leaned on an industry person, you know.

So, But the crazy thing is FoST prophets came up the next day, post came out this very next day after.

But I ain't take it, you know what I'm saying.

But I think, nah, but I mean he said it's not really about me.

But I mean, all I'm saying is that that's that's my I love him, that's my brother.

Speaker 1

Whatever.

Speaker 6

I just I mean, I think I kind of halted telling any industry and anything too deep like around that time, like I just like, you know what, I only don't even want to think that they're using this.

Speaker 1

Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

So nigga, what what didn't you understand?

That sounds like he was getting cut off.

He's like saying, I ain't want to you know what I say, MA say what you're saying?

That was nah, That's what I'm saying.

You say what you're saying that was whack.

And as a result of that, I don't really be talking to these rat niggas because I don't know if they're using like personal conversations for content.

Speaker 1

And that's what he was saying.

But that's what he that's what he wanted to say, but that ain't what he said.

He said it though like not no, I don't, he said, but saying like that, no people he used against me.

Speaker 3

But that's the thing in this industry because wile A is a nice guy by nature, very nice guy.

And then when you find out that everybody ain't nice and everybody ain't the way you are, then you get on these platforms and you don't want to say it because you don't want to seem like you're talking nobody about nobody and not respect it about.

But sometimes you got to be like yo, listen, man, Homie did some wax shit.

And as a result of that, I don't really be opening up to rappers and trying to get too cool with these niggas because they move funny just.

Speaker 1

Say that shit.

But I'm not about first, so I'm not gonna let you do that because the timeline is is a little a little off with this, and it definitely was resolved.

And I also think j Cole, out of all the rappers, is probably just as equally nice as a human being as Wiles Cole.

Speaker 3

No knocking, I'm just saying wile was sounding like he wanted to say something at the same time he didn't want to say nothing.

Speaker 1

Now, in fact, if in fact they had that conversation on let's say the first and then false profits dropped on the second.

I have to give so much credit to Cole Felt in the creative team.

The fact that you could write that record and make Jamaica Avenue into Willie Wanka Chocolate factory video.

Wow, what a turnover to put it out.

But I'm sure he was probably paraphrase.

I'm sure it came out shortly after.

But then while a put out Groundhog's Day, which I think is one of the more underrated I don't think it's a dis more underrated responses like it still has replay value to me.

I still love groundhog Day.

And then they went to the I think it was a North Carolina game.

The next day they were sitting courts out together like they resolved the entire thing.

Yeah, and I don't think I'm not saying it's beef me.

It's like, you know, what's rap.

Speaker 3

You can have a little friendly like fire, like a friendly little like back and forth with dudes that you're really cool with.

Speaker 2

So, just to clarify, y'all are telling me that y'all think false prophets.

It's about wi.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think one verse about Kanye and one verse about wile A.

What was the first verse?

Speaker 3

I'm trying to remember, maybe d I'm just speaking to in this in this clip that y'all just showed me, while A seemed like he wanted to say something but that he didn't want to because it's resolved, And no, I get it, I understand it, But then don't speak on it.

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Why not you can still.

Speaker 4

Speak about some The first verse being about Kanye makes sense, right, second verse.

Speaker 2

Is the one that you would say would be about wile Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, which I mean we we've covered when it came out.

Obviously that was a big week on Twitter of what who's who were the verses about?

But yeah, and if if Wiley had a conversation with Cole, who he was on tour with at the beginning of his career, slept in the same tour bus, somebody that he probably can fid with, like, not just some random stranger that also raps, Like I'm pretty sure they had spent a lot of time together in a real way.

Yeah, when they were I think it was a blueprint to three one whatever.

There's a footage of them in Denny's, like they they lived together for a long time, they grew up together, like that was their their college years more or less.

Yeah, I'm sure he said a lot of similar things to him in this conversation, and Cole, having one of the greatest pens ever, easily just put that on in rhyme form, and while he was like, what the fuck, I just had a conversation with you about all these talking points.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

I don't think what Cold did was wrong.

Speaker 3

Like, you know, sometimes you draw inspiration from real life things, and if you had a conversation with the close front of yours and it inspired you to write a verse, like I like that.

I respect that.

I'm just saying, you know, with Wila, because wile A is, you know, we always give him as flowers.

We always say that he needs to be talked about more, and you know, but in this clip, it just seemed like he had something on his mind, on his heart that he wanted to say, but then he didn't want to say something that could be taken the wrong way.

And things like that, like that's all I'm speaking.

So is just like he sounded like he had something he wanted to say, but at the same time he held back and was like, nah, I don't want to say that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, I guess this does go back to conversations we've had just over the years.

If if I was Wila when this came out, I would I would feel a way now outside looking and thinking what I know wile A and Cold's relationship was at that time, and things I SAI say to you you put on WAX.

I don't think this is a dys but it's like, damn, you put our conversation in a song and didn't tell me.

Now if Cold have been like YO tomorrow, if you're mad, I totally understand it.

Here's the song.

Just want to give you a heads up.

I would respect that more, but I don't know if it's owed the older I've gotten, which we've talked about multiple times, friends even in the music industry that I consider friends not associates, I still don't put as much stake into it as I used to, of thinking that they would owe me anything the way friends maybe you grew up with or don't work with do so that happens, So I see what while they is saying now of like, yeah, you can still talk about feel a way and it's resolved and him and Cole are cool.

They shift, they put out a number one record together with the Vibrant Thing sample like, but I'm still like looking at it, like now I know how to move with people I even thought were friends in the industry per se.

Yeah, I'm not just move or I don't have to expect now if I say something, it could be used against me.

And that's in the quarter of hip hop, in the court of hip hop, yes for sure.

Speaker 2

But okay, not cold caping, I swear because that needs to.

Speaker 1

Be a friend is a classic record, not.

Speaker 2

Even see what the cargan.

Speaker 3

Okay, that was a cape.

Speaker 4

I don't know if I'm Wila, which I've never been wil A.

I've never been famous and talented and all of these cool things.

So I know, I don't know if I'm Wila if I hear that verse, if I'm offended, I don't, or if I feel like I was betrayed.

Speaker 2

You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

I don't know if I feel that way, because honestly, that verse, the first verse can very obviously be set up to be about Kanye, right, But the second verse, if him and Yla weren't friends, nobody would I don't think people would assume that that verse was about Wila because that fits.

That's about so many rappers that are doing well but maybe not as well as they feel like they should be doing, or comparing, you know, drawing comparisons to their peers or anything like that.

You can make that verse about so many people in in the music industry.

So that's what I'm like that And even even so, even if I did have that conversation with my friend, I don't know if that's the same thing that my friend told me in private, If it's the same the advice that you give in the verse, If it's the same advice that my friend gave me in private, I don't know if I feel offended or if I feel like I should have kept that to myself.

For example, Roy, you've used You've sent me lyrics that were like yo, I draw I drew inspiration from you and Homie.

Remember, I can't be mad at you like you betrayed me because I was honest about my love life and you used it in a song like that's even if you never sent it to me beforehand.

If I heard that, I'm like, hey, that's about yeah.

Speaker 1

But that was very much more open ended than how direct R and B opening R and B lyrics are really for interpretation, Like they're not as specific as what these rap verses are.

In the way Cole masterfully put this together, it made you want to guess who exactly he was talking about the lyrics.

I said you nobody would sit there and go like, well, who exactly is this about?

With all the clues that are in there.

But here, here's the thing where I'm a hypocrite.

In this entire conversation.

I've talked about personal stuff on this podcast, whether it be significant others, whether it be my parents, whether it be my family members, and I never asked for permission, never even thought to give them a heads up, Hey this, I'm talking about this tomorrow, it's going out.

So I'm a hypocrite.

And we've got that way.

Speaker 2

We've all done that.

Speaker 1

So it's not like I don't understand what Cole did.

I've done it way more than Cole has, so I get it.

But I understand why significant others, my family, my parents have felt away the same way.

I think while they would too.

And on top of that, now everybody's in my mentions, and I already told you some of my anxieties with this entire thing, and that very thing that you took is now adding to my anxiety with all the fans in my mentions talking about the shit.

Speaker 2

So I get it.

Speaker 1

But I think while they handled it fine, I was talking about the past because they were reminiscent in that Breakfast Club interview about kind of those four of Cole Drake, Kendrick wil A and how they all started together.

So talking about the ups and downs, I don't think it's a bad thing.

And I'm sure while it's past, the ship, but he probably is, Like I'm not.

I'm keeping some ship to myself, no matter who I think is a close association in the industry with stuff.

Speaker 3

No friends in the industry, my brothers and my brothers.

I mean kidding me, fat, that's the fact.

Speaker 1

But even then, like I don't even think anything that jams y'all just jamming.

Listen to what niggas be telling you.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, I didn't know.

Speaker 1

I was fine, you fools listening to music and just skimming through it.

Speaker 3

I mean, I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to cut you in the road.

I went, I went, I was a young angel, but these niggas turn me evil.

That villain origin story is gonna be classic.

I'm telling y'all right now, just that Villainori.

We're gonna look back and like that's the moment it happened.

I'm telling y'all.

But anyway, Yeah, while shot the great album, I'm still bumping that, still listening to that.

Like it more and more every listen.

I do like the Summer Walker album too, So you've finally given it some Yeah, I've been spending that the last like Monday and then Tuesday, I was like, okay, let me listen to the something.

Let me see what she was.

She really gave us on this one.

Speaker 2

Did to the Mariah album like I told you I did.

Speaker 1

I've been told you.

Speaker 3

I listened to that album.

Speaker 4

I can't remember.

We talked a lot in this podcast.

I forgot it.

I forget a lot of things.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no, I listened to that.

But I like the Summer album.

I'm what I like the sum album.

Speaker 1

It's not it's very good.

Speaker 2

Is there any other R and B you guys are looking forward to like coming up.

Speaker 3

I'm looking forward to Division quarter.

I don't know if they dropping.

I don't know if they dropping fourth quarter, but.

Speaker 4

Fourth or first or even just next year because we got a lot this year.

So is there anyone you're looking forward to next year?

Speaker 1

I think I don't think siss is going to take as much time off R and B you tomorrow, mm hmm.

I think we'll get a siss A projects relatively soon.

I want to hear the new Maida project same.

I mean, I love the k Trinata one where she just took a break off the cellar it made is another.

Speaker 3

As an artist that I don't think people talk about enough when the ladies in R and B, like the ladies in R and B, like you know, we throw names around, but Mayda's name doesn't get brought up enough and like she's super dope, like like you said, the k Trinada project that was that was that was crazy.

But then when she gets into her full R and B ballot bag, like Mada can sing her ass off.

Yeah, she ain't one of the you know, even though we listen to the whispers, singers and all of that, Like Maida is not that though she can like she can go up there with just a piano and just a mic and and tear sit up.

Speaker 2

So for everybody that's m A.

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Speaker 1

T A.

Speaker 2

If you've never heard of her, please go check her out.

Speaker 1

Out the Mada Clio Soul.

I look forward to trying to think who would be in like album cycle at this time, because we did get a lot.

I'm just looking back at twenty twenty four who dropped because maybe twenty six would give us that.

I mean Victoria Monet definitely.

I think that, Yeah, I think she would be somebody that would.

Jasmine Sullivan.

Where's Jasmine at Hotels?

Speaker 3

Is what?

Speaker 1

Twenty three?

Speaker 3

She gave us that clink to twenty three?

Speaker 4

Yeah, twenty two maybe twenty one for that I was saying, might but her her mom died?

Speaker 3

Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah a year ago or something.

Speaker 1

Yeah, when did when did Hotels come out?

Speaker 2

That was like twenty into twenty twenty one?

Top of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3

If I'm not gonna say nah that y'all y'all tripping, I think that might be too twenty twenty.

Speaker 4

It was not twenty twenty bit all right.

I was working for this podcast when it came out.

It was like twenty hotels.

Speaker 1

Hotels came out.

Yo, this is gonna trip you out even more.

January eighth, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, the top eight days in have this show.

Yeah, we didn't have the show till May twenty twenty one.

Yeah, damn, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Like I knew that shit was like and I was I said twenty twenty January, Oh yeah, you know what I'm thinking about the Deluxe when the Deluxe ye, yeah, the Deluxe game later for sure, the Deluxe was a real deluxe.

It had like extra songs on that ship.

So yeah, yeah with Jasmine, I mean condolences.

You know, she lost some moms, but you had Jazmine Culliban that that hotel is probably she dropped that on us, and it's like, y'all hold that for the next five years and let me know when one of these one of these ladies catch up to this singing right here, because they not catching up to Jasmine.

I Love I Love all the Jazmine sullivans O.

Speaker 4

Kaylanie was actually talking about that.

I had heard of a clip of her basically saying like or a post of her basically saying like Jasmine is not like these women's peers, Like, let's not talk like Jasmine is like one of the mothers of R and B at this point, Like.

Speaker 1

She's one of the Absolutely she's from modern R and B.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, Yeah, Jazmine Celman, she could be in the room with you know.

Speaker 1

She's legacy, the legend.

Yeah, but still very much relevant and the songs.

Speaker 4

Are like, it's not just like because I feel like Jennifer Hudson has the issue of she hasn't been able to keep up the music quality or the song quality has not kept up with her voice quality, whereas with Jasmine, she has the voice quality, but the songs are also bomb as fucked too, Like it's not just yelling, it's not she doesn't just showcase her voice.

Speaker 1

It's an over sing and not to say Jennifer does, but that is usually the main part of the song, which ends up being very much here's my ballads, here's my version of pop, and here's a traditional Like Jasmine really experimented with hotels that made it sound like the era that it was in.

It didn't even sound like past Jasmine projects like she kept up.

Yeah is a classic a classic.

Hell, yeah, absolutely, you know what I watched.

Speaker 3

I watched the what was the Jasmine Sullivan?

What was the live series they was doing on YouTube?

Speaker 2

It was useful when she was singing with her with the plants in the background.

Speaker 3

Is that it that sounds familiar?

I know her came out.

Yeah, and they did that song together.

Speaker 2

It was like mad plans in the background.

Speaker 1

She had like it was tiny desk, it wasting.

It was her tiny desk love from tiny desk.

Oh you're talking about her tiny desk, yes, okay, but it wasn't in the tiny desk setup that they have now.

Speaker 3

Yeah, this I watched this at least once a month, like just to like, you know, you're going to just hear some live music and see somebody Jazzmine Sullivan is on an entirely.

Speaker 2

Different level and she's so beautiful too, just full package love her.

Speaker 1

I'm curious what Lucky Day does, like what direction he goes after Algorithm because they smoked out.

I love that album so much, but it was a very specific sound, kind of outside of what Lucky had done prior.

I'm curious where he goes sonically form here m because he did he did not take a full shift, but it was it was different, And I'm curious what he wants to.

Speaker 2

Do next, are you guys Friday fans?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I love Friday.

Speaker 2

I'm interested in seeing what he does next to Friday.

Speaker 1

Friday's active too, like he'll put out Lucy's and stuff like I really fuck with Friday.

I hate the I wish he'd lock in and just give us just focus for two years on an album, because I think he's capable of putting together an incredible, incredible project.

But you know he's he moves away.

Younger artists need to move now.

You gotta stay active and not just say that it doesn't take away from the quality, but if you if you really just lock in and take some time.

But I don't know, do people care outside of like not this podcast per se, but people like us.

Do people care that much about albums anymore?

Speaker 3

I think so?

Speaker 2

I think so.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Like the casual fan, I'm not saying there's a large group of people, like a huge group of people like us that obsess over bodies of work.

But I mean, is that still if.

Speaker 3

You love R and B The thing, If you like really love R and B music, you absolutely love albums like R and B is one of those things like, well, you know, when R and B artists used to make the traditional R and B music, the album was like the story.

It was a whole like movie that they put together.

So I mean I was raised in that type of R and B.

Like the entire project was dope, like from top to bottom, every song you loved, Every song had its own meaning, and you know you just wanted to be a part of that.

But now you know, you got R and B artists that put a song out in January.

They'll put a song out and then they won't put out an another song until like August, and you're like, yo, bro, I don't even know what to like.

You're gonna give us another single the end of the year and then next year give us the full like I don't.

So it's like now I'm not really attached to a full project because you're not giving me the full project.

You're giving me a song here, let's see what it does.

Then you give me another song five months later.

It's like I don't really want to with the where's the album at give the whole project.

Speaker 4

Which they need to stop doing too, because it's not that single is not going to be a measure of how the album is going to do or how people are going to perceive the album.

I think that if you give us a good album, people care about your albums.

If you give us a good album, people will care about your albums.

But if you don't, then that's fine.

People won't care.

But what you specialize in people will care about.

If you're a good featured artist, people will always care about your features.

Speaker 2

They'll run to it.

But you have to show us our specialty before we can know what we want from you.

Speaker 3

Give us the entree.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I mean I don't like I guess, for example, an artist like Coco Jones who puts together great bodies work.

Do you think the labels in her ears saying focus on singles or focus on take your time like disappear and give us a body of work.

Speaker 4

I don't think they're saying let her disappear.

I think they're saying, focused on the album.

But why you focus it on the album?

Give us what you whatever you got over there in that lunchbox.

Let me get a piece of that until dinner's done.

Speaker 1

Like yeah, but even like to multiple too, because I feel you that it does suck when someone puts out a single, five months past single, and then the album's next year.

Should I've done that?

I a lot of times the label will be like, yo, chill, I know you're ready to go, but we need to work this single's working a little bit, let us work it more.

And then five months past and it's like, well, my fans are asking for music, and like, all right, we'll give another one.

Then we'll work that single, and now you're on a whole year and a half like trajectory of album cycle.

And it makes it disconnects from the core fan base at that point because like, what's going on, You're just thrown out records.

Yeah, but that's usually the label saying we need to work this record, let's get our ry on this and try to build some type of buzz for the project.

That's why you get songs that are two years old that are on albums that come out later, which and I.

Speaker 3

Skipped, like I'm even on the summer album like Heart of a Woman.

I skipped that immediately.

Speaker 1

Why I don't want it?

Speaker 2

We had tired of it.

He' sired of it.

Speaker 3

Okay, we've had it for months, you know what I'm saying.

It's like fair okay, fair good.

We then with the double disto I hear you.

There's there's so much more on the song, but it's like, I'm not going to I've been listening to that for When did the Heart of a.

Speaker 2

Woman come out for a very long so damn near a year ago?

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, it was the top of this year.

Speaker 2

We almost at the top of next year, that's know.

Speaker 1

That's what I'm saying.

I just feel like I've been listening to Heart of a Woman for months, That's know what I'm saying.

It came out Nah, No, what's October October twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, god damn more than a very long time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying.

It's like I don't want to hear that.

Yeah, a good song, but it's like, yeah, I'm at God girl now you know what I'm saying.

That's why, man, let me get to that, Like I'm not really let me get the one hundred hard break not really with woman no more.

Speaker 1

But as far as album cycles, I'm looking forward hopefully twenty twenty six we had Sizza.

I'm just looking at my album list from like twenty twenty two of people that didn't put anything out.

I know Robert Glasper's put out a bunch.

I'd love Black Radio four to come out in twenty twenty six.

Amber Mark, I love.

I hope she puts something out.

Ariy Lennox is already putting records out now, so I assume she'll be dropping first or second quarter.

She's not on Dreams on twenty twenty six.

No, Alex Ozley has been active, but I would love for her and Jack to get back and give us an album in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3

Hey, please do, Alex, please please, You and Jack gotta get do.

Give us something, give us, give us a little six pack of something.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

And also we were talking with PJ Morton at the BT Awards.

He now owns Stevie Wonders Farm.

Yes, he has a host set up there.

Yeah, and as a bunch of young artists, I'm excited just to see what he does with his kind of new I mean, I want to say label per se that he's starting over there, but you know he's doing joint projects with rappers, singers.

I'm excited to see what PJ does in twenty twenty six.

And I'm coming out in twenty twenty six.

There you go hey now, so you know, hope hopefully no one comes up.

Speaker 3

So it could be just you.

They put a new team to Turn the Project the same day you dropped Tina Turn the Projects.

Speaker 4

I would like a little bit longer of an album from Nao.

I know she put out Jupiter at the top of this year, but it's only thirty three minutes eleven songs.

Speaker 3

I will want something a little bit longer, yeah from her.

I fuck with that project though, Yeah, that project is great.

Ship Mac Airs.

I always mispronounce his name, but Mac is incredible.

Shout out to to New York.

But yeah, I know, I know we're we're dragging the R and B shit.

I know a lot of our listeners are not R and B heads like us listening.

Speaker 1

To Yeah than us for I don't trust nobody that just listening to rap.

No, some people just don't want to hear thirty minutes of just R and B.

Speaker 3

Like, actually, problem, got a balance, It's the problem your nervous systems is like, oh, I mean, I agree.

I think you'll just R and get some R and B in your in your in your uh, your diet.

Speaker 1

R R and B will make you appreciate how you listen to hip hop, more might be oh, don't don't do that?

Was that wasn't that profound?

That wasn't that profound?

That wasn't that profound?

You didn't.

It really wasn't.

It really wasn't.

But but if you get into the DNA of R and B, that is mostly what all the hip hop samples that you love, like you, you do listen to hip hop differently if you have a love for R and B, because that's really what it is.

Post you know, ninety.

Speaker 3

Five, I saw a clip of Jermaine Duprix and he was talking about the greatest, the greatest group ever is New Audition And he's absolutely right.

Did he give criteria?

I'd never be mad at the take what every New Edition being the greatest group?

Every artist that went solo the album went platinum.

Yeah, And when you say that, it's like you can't argue that as great as the Jackson Now what Michael did solo?

Obviously you know what I'm saying.

But but does that make them the greatest group when y'all can all go solo and go platinum?

Speaker 1

Well, belt, well, would you consider that so I mean solo per se?

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's the three of them.

Yeah, I mean it's still they still broke off from the group, That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, Wait, Ralph platinum.

Wait his solo album is.

Speaker 2

Platinum them, but how long it took for it to go plast.

Speaker 1

It don't matter.

It's platinum.

Speaker 3

Don't know it, don't.

Speaker 2

Tweaker went platinum.

Speaker 1

By the way, if you think about it, Tweaker and New Edition are the same.

Speaker 2

No, I'm just saying, like, like I hear you, but like the Jackson five is the Jackson five.

Speaker 1

We talking about the arrow where it was album sales, not streams, and of course the Jackson five kids everything.

I get that, but you still have to put boys to men attach New Edition Like, I mean, I get it, I do get it.

Just saying JD makes a lot of sense with that take.

Yeah, I mean, that's one that I probably wouldn't argue.

You can argue it, but I'm not mad at to take whatsoever.

I mean, I mean just now, but with some of your favorite groups like that would rival.

I mean, but even where jodses DNA starts with them too, Like, yeah, it's tough.

I'm just saying, man, he makes a lot of sense.

And I and I and I always.

Speaker 3

I mean, New Edition is one of my favorite groups ever before Jade even says this.

But when you say the greatest group, you're telling R and B.

It's like, damn you would, or you would, you would, you would go to the Jackson five.

People say that's pop whatever whatever, But the greatest group being New Addition, I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 1

If you go remember remember if there's a pause there, pause it.

Yeah, the Jackson five versus New Edition doesn't even like like remotely compare.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's different.

You got Michael, we know what little Michael did you three here about thirty niggas.

Michael Jackson is about thirty niggas.

But Randy rest in peace.

You know the brothers that pass Tito Jamaine like all, but they didn't they solo albums.

Speaker 1

Didn't, didn't didn't do it.

Speaker 2

Okay, So hear me out.

Speaker 1

It'd be a good versus were Young New Edition versus Jackson five, to be honest, hear me out.

And then that far and then there's that part of.

Speaker 4

Every member of Destiny's Child has one platinum.

I'm just saying, if that's what we're saying.

Speaker 1

The original like the original Destiny Child or Michelle Kelly and Beyonce Michelle Kelly.

I mean, okay, I get that.

I'm just saying, but all right, Michelle sol album went platinum.

Yeah, she did a gospel Yes.

Speaker 2

And she's also on Broadway killing.

Speaker 1

Just saying, and not to take anything away from Destiny's Child.

If you go through l Bib Devot, Bobby Brown solo, Ralph tresvent Uh, Johnny like it just it's not close.

It's kind of not even your Listen.

Speaker 3

Bobby Brown when he went solo, see y'all too young, that shit hit you.

Bobby Brown's solo career, That shit hit like an Adam Baum.

That nigga, Bobby Brown was everywhere, every award show, every Billboard.

Speaker 1

The nigga was in Ghostbusters like this.

Bobby Brown was that nigga.

Speaker 2

I'm not I'm not fighting you.

I was just saying, if we bring I just you know, do another no listen.

Speaker 3

Destiny's Child obviously is one of the greatest groups for sure.

I mean, yo, what new addition did though, bell bil the one Ny when Belle build the Vote.

Speaker 1

Did they thing?

It's like and these niggas rap it was just like they could do no wrong.

I don't want to throw what if in because that doesn't really matter.

Let's deal with what TLC had contracts been what it was, and unfortunately everything that happened with Left Eye, like TLC I think would have branched the way New Addition did and would have went on to be crazy in that regard, like their run was just cut short because of bullshit.

Plus unfortunately Left Our passing.

Speaker 3

But we're not gonna knock New Addition because it's happened with TLC.

Personally.

Speaker 1

We love I know New Addition is older, but New Addition is Wu tang like they're.

Speaker 3

Wu tang yo and were talking about from the early eighties.

They were children with hits early eighties.

Like go back and just do your do your history on New Addition to music.

I know that we got the show that came out and everybody loved that, but like a lot of people still don't know the music of New Addition from the start, not just when they were young men.

I'm talking about when they were little kids.

Go back to that and just listen.

It's incredible to create that they had and there on tour next year, I would love to see New Addition boys to men.

Speaker 2

So you're choose a new addition.

Speaker 4

I was gonna say, are you choosing a new addition over Boys to Men as a group not their solo careist as a group Boys the Men shadalog over new edition catalog?

Speaker 3

Y'all might have to take new addition.

Speaker 1

That's tough.

I might have to take new addition because of my I love Boys to Men.

Speaker 3

I might have to take.

Speaker 1

Because of my age.

Boys to Men was a way bigger part of my life.

But going back to stuff, and I don't know, man like, yeah, I think I have to go new edition, new addition, is it?

Speaker 3

I'm telling you?

Speaker 1

And it's funny.

I know Boys to Men would say new addition.

Yeah, we don't get Boys to Men without knowing.

Of course you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

But I just like we didn't feel the same way about you know, when the guys went solo and to day thing.

Even though Sean and Wan Yah, you know, they had some some good solo songs and things like that.

But when you talk about what Bobby Brown was able to do, what Johnny Gill was able to do with Ralph Chessvan was able to like it was, it's just no, it's no comparing.

Speaker 4

Bro okay, So if I if I do just a quick little verses, real quick, y'all choose for me.

Speaker 2

New addition, can you Stand in the rain?

Versus boys the men?

Speaker 4

End of the Road?

Speaker 3

Can you stand the ring.

Speaker 1

Song?

Speaker 2

I'm taking?

Speaker 3

But but but can you stand the rain?

Is like, come on, man, I'm taking.

End of the Road is a bigger song.

Don't get it twisted like Boomerang soundtrack, what that did for that soundtrack, iconic iconic movie, iconic soundtrack, legendary record.

But can you stand in the rain?

Like if you throw into the road on the party, we had an R and B party throwing End of the Road.

Niggas are like, now this was that ship you throwing?

Can you stand the rain?

Niggas is picking they phones like I gotta call it dog, I'm tripping.

That's just it's just a different type of feel when you hear can you stand?

Speaker 1

That's one of those If we were on drink Champs, I would drink.

I don't even know what to pick on.

That End of the Road is probably one of the biggest songs in R and B history.

But can you Stay in the rain?

Is that ship?

Though?

Put the songs that everyone know every lyric.

Speaker 2

Did we get to the and start doing that ship?

Speaker 1

I don't know, yeah, ah man, I don't know can you stand in the ring?

But when Ralph come in on can you Stand the Rain?

Like I think that match.

Speaker 3

Johnny came in and said on a perfect day.

I said this, nigga, Johnny.

They wasn't jacking Johnny joined the group.

They wasn't fucking with him.

They was kind of giving them ship like, yo, you're trying to take Bobby spot that.

And the third when that nigga said I know that I can't tell you.

I said this niggas in Bobby who like this nigga Johnny?

That was it.

Speaker 1

Can you Stand the Rain?

I love, I Love.

I sang end of the Road in fucking grade school like at a talent show.

Yeah, that's definitely a go to talent.

So I love you Standing the Rain.

It's kind of a challenge the rain.

Speaker 4

Can you Stand the Rain is an old talent show song Okay, round two, Round two.

Speaker 1

And they do the choreography to Kings in the Ring You Love You Love?

What's the movie the best do that today?

Speaker 2

Best Man Holiday is like such a traumatic movie, but I watch it every Christmas.

Speaker 1

So that movie I want this way to being a Christmas must watch, I think.

Speaker 2

Is already said a Christmas musch watch for me.

Speaker 3

I don't know, I don't know.

We're not putting it.

I mean, it's tough, but that's best Man.

Best Man too is best Man.

Holliday is definitely on the list.

Speaker 4

Holiday might be better than the best Man.

Don't shoot me, don't shoot me, don't shoot me.

Best Man Holliday might be better than the best Man.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna I know why really mad at that.

I don't see why you say that.

I get why you say that.

Speaker 1

I'm not mad at that take.

Speaker 3

I get why you say that.

But it's definitely moving in that realm of like when Christmas coming around.

You gotta watch the first die Hard movie for sure, got to watch Home Alone.

Best Man Holiday might be in there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and the three you just named are so cryptic in Trauma.

It's so funny that their holiday movie like this happened.

Things like really good about these Christmas?

Speaker 3

All right?

Speaker 4

Second round, Second round, New edition.

If it isn't love boys to men, I'll make love to you, I'll.

Speaker 1

Make love to you.

Speaker 2

I'll make love to you.

Speaker 3

If it isn't love.

Speaker 1

That's the age difference.

Speaker 5

I think, yeah, yeah, if it is in love, do I feel this way?

It's just a different bot.

It's a weird she stay on my mind.

Speaker 1

And then the choreography they need that, y'all don't even y'all.

Speaker 3

Y'all just wasn't outside, man, y'all wasn't outside.

Speaker 1

We did, we did watch Avon Barksdale teach them the choreography.

Speaker 3

But y'all wasn't there.

Man, when John that video is Ralph?

Had you pull up the video?

John Ralph had the pitts that went into the shoe.

Speaker 1

I don't think that's a fair.

Speaker 4

It was tough with the two groups because New Audition has more up tempo and Boys of Men is more ballad.

Speaker 1

Get that you know they don't even tee and Jodicy is more of a versus sonically to me than New Edition and Boice.

Speaker 3

Men well versus they would be performing correct.

Speaker 1

Oh, then it's over.

But the New Audition wins every round?

What about?

No, that's not what.

Speaker 3

I wanted those, my mom, the woking side with the no socks, with the loafers.

Speaker 1

I wanted to go outside with.

Speaker 2

Those, all right?

Speaker 4

All right, up tempo crowd pleasers.

Round three, Let's do new edition.

Mister telephone man, yep, boys to men Motown Philly.

Speaker 1

Mister tell mister telephone man.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I would have to go, mister Telephonia.

But I love Motown Philly.

I love Motown Philly.

Speaker 1

Mister telephone said, hello, can I help you?

Speaker 3

Please?

The telephone man ain't ofvering.

Y'all don't even y'all have land lines no more.

Well, I think y'all don't even know what it is to have a landline.

And y'all don't y'all don't know.

Man, y'all don't know.

Speaker 1

You weren't trying.

That was actually very close to Ralph impression right there.

If you try that one more time and try to sound like.

Speaker 3

Ralph, No, I can't sound like bro Ralph voice is too high, okay.

Speaker 1

And that's another thing.

You kind of had it a little bit.

That's another thing.

People don't look at that.

Speaker 3

That was whole their whole thing was catered around trying to sound like Jackson five.

Speaker 1

Yeah, for sure, Ralph was close.

He wasn't Little Michael.

I ain't gonna come on, We ain't gona getting crazy.

No one's saying that he wasn't Little Michael, but he was close.

He was close.

Candy Rain like he was close.

He was very close.

Speaker 2

I'm bend Ney, Damn Yo, you are you are Josh would be the.

Speaker 1

Most random songs that that just make it just like Josh Yah, you're out his music team whatsoever.

Speaker 2

I'm Benddney.

Speaker 4

Boys to Man again.

This is a differ from vibe New Addition.

Cool it now, it's a different vibe.

Yeah, that's not that's just that's just a weird two different vibes.

It's tough.

New Edition Crucial versus Boys to Men.

A song for Mama, New Addition Crucial versus song for Mama.

No, you told me anything and everything me always keep it inside.

You are the driving fortune.

Speaker 3

I'm about to call my mama and hold on.

Speaker 1

And R and B took that flow and ran with it too.

All right, well marriage.

You also have to add in solo ship because that versus if you're in a like you're playing a bunch of lock ship against against fab like, yeah, let's get Bobby now, let's pull.

Speaker 4

Some body ship.

Let's get into Bobby.

I said, as a group alone.

Obviously, if you start, if you allow single songs.

Speaker 1

Like if you if you do Bobby against the Boys to my record, doesn't have to be solo.

Speaker 4

That's not But again that's why I said to keep it fair.

I'm saying, just group, it's not fair.

Speaker 1

That's why we're saying New Addition is is it because poison could beat a bunch of poison that records.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's a fact.

I'm just saying.

Man, JD he got that one right.

When you first hear it, it's like huh.

But then when you start doing we're doing getting into the music, like really, it's a lot of groups that cannot fuck with New Addition.

Okay.

That's why I'm excited that they're going on tour because I think this is gonna help solidify.

Like, Yo, this is the coldest group ever in R and B ever.

Like them, niggas had hits.

They went decades with hits, Like they crossed from the eighties to the nineties to the early two thousands, like.

Speaker 1

With hit records.

Yeah, though not even come on you throwing Johnny Ruby the right.

Speaker 2

Way my mo, ma mo.

Speaker 3

When that came out, when he went solo with that, it was like, nah, these niggas is cheating.

I mean when everybody got a bomb.

The real verses I wanted to do, which I know sounds laughable.

But Young Jackson five verse, Young new Edition, I think new addition is hanging.

Sounds kind of blasphemous.

They hanging just even I don't know if they I don't know if they're gonna win, but I know good versus.

I would pay to see that.

Speaker 1

They would, they would hang.

Speaker 3

Yeah, But once they start getting into them, them them them deep Jackson five cuts, it's like, yeah, man, just go ahead and leave little Michael alone.

Y'all can't that little Michael was.

Don't leave him alone when he had when he got the fro and he put that cowboy hat on.

Speaker 1

I'll never forget the first time boy had over a fro.

Speaker 2

Crazy as fuck.

Speaker 3

I never forget the first time I saw that on TV.

Like I remember as a as a little kid, seeing Michael Jackson as a little kid, Like I understand how kids now that are born or like ename it with Michael.

It's like it's something about him when you see him on TV as a kid, but you just can't stop looking at him.

Yeah, because kids that are born now, Michael, Michael Jackson, there were ten years probably no longer longer than that he died ship like sixteen years sixteen oh nine.

Speaker 2

I don't know why thought I was five you right?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Uh okay, yeah, they'll hang.

But I do take back a lot of much about coming out.

I mean, I want you back as my ship ABC goes out saying I'll be there, like, I don't even know many songs that could beat that.

Yeah, never can say goodbye You're loving you?

John, I want to I want to put where you at your Who's Loving You?

Speaker 5

No?

Speaker 1

That ain't you want to be where you?

Yeah?

Nah, I'm all right.

Listen, new edition is allowed, young, new addition is allowed on the stage with him, I'll say for sure.

But when Mike game was that with the hat Who's Loving You and the Edge seller Bro Listen, man, y'all don't even.

Speaker 3

Understand what this kid in the Black household that look at little Michael look at him?

Speaker 2

Mm hmm?

What the fuck you just say?

Speaker 3

Yo?

Speaker 1

That's how Bruno Mars feel.

Speaker 2

Like it's look mall is a name or now Ma's like.

Speaker 1

Performance they performances.

I will never forget this, Like this was crazy.

Speaker 4

He was perfect.

He was absolutely perfect.

That's a different that's spiritual talent.

That's a different type of you.

Gotta be born.

You were born, God wanted you.

Speaker 1

This was a chosen thing.

Yeah, despite all the work Mike put in, no this some ship just lines up that you were just the chosen one for everything.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's different over there, real different.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Mike, my uncle.

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Speaker 2

But you're gonna go into voicemails actually.

Speaker 3

For sure, we have a voicemail from little Michael.

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Got a question for the pie.

So what was your childhood stereotype?

Because everybody knew those kids that fit something, whether it was the snot nos kid you know five years old, let's not just running down his nose, like, come on.

Speaker 1

Now, wipe your nose, bro.

Then you got the rage crier, the.

Speaker 7

One that puff and puff as soon as them tears start bron they scream and yell and they ready to fight somebody.

Then you got the little girl, you know, just struggling with them little eight bowl reds in the head.

Speaker 1

You know that type of stuff.

Speaker 7

Me, I was the cousin that nobody wanted to sleep next to because I pissed into bed.

I appreciate the point where in my family be like little by going there and use the bathroom.

And if you piss on yourself tonight, I'm being your ass.

But anyway, my question is for y'all, what was y'all stereotype?

Speaker 3

I mean I stopped peeing the bed pretty young, pretty early, So that wasn't that.

I was never a snotty nosed kid running around with boogers.

It's never that.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Maybe I was just was always just I was real talkative.

I was always running my mouth.

Speaker 1

It was loud.

Maybe I thought you might have been like the you know, the chill baby, like it's leg up against the wall, like I feel like your whole life.

He was just like, oh no, it's just chilling as a baby like this and that, not as.

Speaker 3

A baby like that was like around like eight nine teen years old.

Speaker 4

Ma gave me like the flirty baby, you know, the little babies that's always in women's faces, like baby.

Speaker 1

Since I got in trouble because I remember, I don't know who it was.

Speaker 3

One of my mother's friends came out and she had like this long sun dress on, and like I just kept looking at it, and I went under her dress, like I picked her dress up and like went under her dress and was like just standing there just like looking at her.

Speaker 1

But I'll never forget that.

And my mother's like, I don't know what it was like what caused me to It wasn't like a perverted thing.

Speaker 3

It was just I was looking at the dress when she was walking in the house, and I remember I just went like this, Little boys do that a lot.

Speaker 2

They do that so much.

Speaker 1

Word, I wasn't the first.

My my uncle's made me do that at I don't have a memory of it.

They just tell the story my uncles convinced me to do that at a family member's wedding, to go on somebody's dress fries.

Speaker 2

Oh, your uncles are terrible.

Speaker 1

People are horrible.

I told you guys about the group chat.

Yeah, I don't think.

Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 3

I was just like the I might have been that, if anything, I was that.

Speaker 4

It was so funny that he said that because the moment he started talking like the moment he mentioned that, I started laughing because me and my dad were having a long conversation yesterday when we were hanging out, and we literally were talking about the fact that I was the bier, I was the kidnapping.

I bit a hole through my cousin.

Shout out to my cousin Desa.

I bit a hole through my cousin Dasa's lip when she was a kid.

She still has the scar as an adult, and every time she see me, she bring up that damn Scar, I was a bier, and you know it's so crazy.

As an adult, when I get angry, my first instinct I want to bite people.

Granted, because I'm an adult, I have to like control that urge, but when I'm really really upset or hungry, I want to bite somebody.

Speaker 1

At your age, now, when was the last time that you had that urge to bite somebody in anger?

Speaker 6

I do that.

Speaker 4

I wanted to bite you last week.

I literally like, when I get upset, I want to bite people.

I bit I bit my boyfriend, I broke skin, like I'm a bier white people.

Speaker 3

That is crazy, you know, that's like a problem, that's really angry.

They were supposed to take.

Speaker 1

You to the special class when you were a kid, like and like you got lipon space camp.

Yeah, like biting you was a bite too.

I told the story how I got a kicked out of takecare.

I pushed the kid down the steps and middlem and my mother picked me up, drove me past where my dad worked, just to like threatening scare me, Like when he get home, what did that?

What did what did you you think you learned that from though, because that's like a that has to be a learned thing like kids don't just do that.

Speaker 4

I never There was never anybody else around that bit.

My parents didn't bite me.

Speaker 3

The kids say, because I mean, you used to identify the kids that would bite us.

They had like the silver caps on their teeth, like the white they guy.

Speaker 1

To give vin ears.

It's just from the years of biting.

Yeah, yeah, like a bitter Yeah I was.

I was.

Speaker 2

I was the bier kid like I bit other kids.

Speaker 4

I have cousins.

My cousins were like.

I had one cousin who was a scratcher like she and her nails from a young kid.

She used her nails used to be so long, and my mother used to used to like, don't fight with her because she was scratched.

Like I would come of scratches on my face.

When we would play fight or real fight, she would scratch me.

Speaker 1

That was my sister's go to when we used to fight.

She used to scratch the ship out of me.

Old.

Speaker 3

I still got scars on my off for my sisters.

Let me and my sister fight.

Speaker 1

When we was kid, My older cousin, Mike, used to bite the top of my head right here.

Speaker 2

He is psychopath.

Speaker 1

I don't think there's a a worst pain on her to all the youth, because we have a lot of youth to listen to us.

If you want to get back at one of your family members with the most excruciating pain of all time, just lock like right here, just put top of your your jaw right here, bottom right here.

It's the worst pain on all time.

Speaker 2

Oh he bitch your soft spot.

Yeah, that's awful.

Speaker 1

It hurts so much.

And even like as adults, sometimes he would do it just to fuck with me, like, hey, remember this and remember this is crazy.

Speaker 3

It's an adult.

I'm calling the police.

No, first of all, don't around.

Speaker 1

Don't and the police would like to talk to you downstairs, like go outside, fucking bite me as it would hurt so much.

Speaker 2

Were you one of them kids I used to flip their eyelids inside.

Speaker 3

I never did that.

Speaker 1

Of course it was Peach.

She's like that was me.

My best friend did that.

Speaker 4

I never like like that shit, just like it hurt because they say or when like I used to go cross side my parents, was like your I was gonna get stuck like that and it neared me.

Speaker 1

The kids that were able to do that with their eyelids now can open a beer with their teeth.

It's the same person.

You know.

Speaker 3

One thing I used to hate and like my cousin used to do it to me every time I saw crack your knuckles.

Speaker 1

I never understood how kids used to be sitting in the class.

I did that my whole life.

I still do.

Speaker 3

I never understood that the sound, the sound drives me crazy.

The feeling drives me crazy.

Speaker 4

When I just went to get a massage recently, the lady when she was massage on my feet, she pulled and cracked my toes.

Speaker 2

I kicked her at, don't ever what.

Speaker 1

A great feeling.

Speaker 2

Don't ever do that.

Speaker 3

Toes is tough to crack, but I cracked my I cracked my toes, like when I'm in the crib relaxing, but cracking your hands.

Speaker 2

Though, thinking of them all sitting in his crib, because you could just do that.

Speaker 1

Shit yourself, like you know what I'm saying, Like, but like doing this in class?

Speaker 6

You do?

Speaker 7

What do you do?

Speaker 2

Hate this sound?

Speaker 1

It's bad for you too, Like it does lead to arthritis and ship like you shouldn't do it, and I do that ship all the time.

Yeah it's not And I've read your knuckles does lead to that ship.

Speaker 3

But I've read that it's not even your knuckles that's cracked, and it's just like air in between you're like points and ship.

That's just like, yeah, I was never a fan of that.

Speaker 1

I could find any I know how to do every every last one?

Speaker 2

Wait, Amara got like a is Amara?

Does she fit into a stereotype?

Speaker 1

Amara pushes and she started to bite.

She doesn't bite me.

I'm exept for some reason of all of her like bad traits, she doesn't do it.

She says push when she pushes, which I think is like cute, but I tell her people's like you're trying to disciplining your kid and laughing to say, like, don't do that.

She's letting you, Amara, don't do that.

She's letting you know what next move.

She's like, you know I'm about to push you, so like prepare yourself.

Should exchange baby shark for forty eight laws power, Like stop you telling everyone your next move?

A lot of people like that.

She's been biting though, but like not in an aggressive way, but like in a funny way, a little nibble, yeah, like whether her mom shall bite, but not not an aggressive way at all.

Speaker 2

Well, you must not taste good.

Speaker 1

She's never tried to bite me what her.

Speaker 4

Mom risk probably tastes good, like, probably don't want to buy I.

Speaker 1

Got the salty one.

Yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 4

But forty eight Laws of Power.

You were asking why people like that book so much?

Speaker 3

I never understand how people like that.

Speaker 2

Have you ever read it?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 1

I read it before too.

Speaker 3

It's just manipulation, Like why do people want to learn how to manipulate?

Speaker 2

Well, manipulation gets you very far in life, coming from.

Speaker 1

And being solid get your fall in life too.

Speaker 4

Being solid, dude, don't get you far in the manipulation.

Being solid gets you blessings.

Manipulation, but that's.

Speaker 3

What I want.

I don't want what come up, manipulation?

Show me all the blessed?

Speaker 6

I was?

Speaker 1

Was it?

During the press run in my mom?

I did a podcast where we talked about forty Laws of Power and I said the exact same thing that you just said that When I was reading it, I was kind of like turned off by it, like this is like this is bad.

Speaker 3

You're like when I say this is like I remember going to a girl's house when she had it like on coffee table, and that just was like I was like, I was like, you like that.

Speaker 1

She didn't know why I was asking, but I knew why I was asking.

Speaker 3

She was like, I love that book.

I was just like, you'll never.

Speaker 1

See me again.

Speaker 4

Well, see, I don't think that that's fair though, because I think that, Well, now I feel bad because when I was reading forty eight Laws of.

Speaker 2

Power, I was like, oh, I already know all that shit.

Speaker 4

But with forty eight Laws of Power, it depends on where you apply it, because there's some places that you shouldn't apply manipulation.

Granted, we manipulate in every area of our lives.

No one is above manipulation, whether you're trying to do it intentionally or not.

But I think it was originally well maybe it's not originally, but I know a lot of people use it for business, for negotiation purpose.

Speaker 2

For sure, and that makes sense.

Speaker 1

You have to be like that for sure.

But a lot of that book is really based on your relationships with people.

Yeah, it can be, it can be put into business.

Speaker 3

For I read that, sh I was like, now I see why.

I was never as like I got the way When it was like forty of Power, I was just like.

Speaker 1

Works I read.

I was like, read, Unfortunately it does work.

Speaker 4

It studies the way that people are and how they react to certain things, and you can make people do what you want them to do and react the way you want them to react in certain situations if you pay attention to if you master the power of manipulation.

The artist Seduction I read is very very well, very good as well.

I read that as a younger woman.

I'm reading again as a older woman.

Speaker 1

But I haven't read that, But I do understand books like forty Laws of Power and uh, everything that Machiavelli wrote is popular in prisons because you're in an environment where manipulation may be survival wore.

Yeah, Like I get that in certain environments people are in.

But yeah, if you're reading that just to manipulate the people around you, that's a that's a deeper, darker thing that you need to like probably deal with.

But yeah, I forgot what podcast it was, but I had the same thought.

I was like, why did everyone love this?

This is never really that.

Speaker 3

I never understood how people loved that book.

That's just like, look at people a little diferent, like forty Loads of Power.

I'll be like, no, not to ever watch that, nigga, watch.

Speaker 1

It really, you know, it's actually, you know, it's a really good book, fifty Laws of Power by fifty cent and it's not really about manipulation.

It's just how to move in business and the examples that he used throughout his career.

Fifty Laws of Power is a really really good book that I would suggest people.

I mean the audiobook is great too.

It's fifty just talking to you, so it's funny.

Speaker 3

Oh now that okay, that's different.

I could definitely shit and listen to fifty just read.

Speaker 1

No, but it's super important.

It's not like it's a very serious book.

It's really a good business type man.

But it's fifty talking like how he's talking and raising Kanaan.

Sometimes it slips in.

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4

There's not many books that I will say change my life, like self help books, but the Art of Science, Art and Science of Respect by Jay Prince changed my life.

Speaker 1

I remember shout out to jazz Fly, yeah, rest and pieces of jazz Fly.

Speaker 4

Just to summarize real quick a chapter he had where he was like, you know, to reach my goals, I wrote them down, and everything I did from then on or everything I did in my day to day I had to ask myself the question of is does this contribute to my goal?

Speaker 2

If not, I needed I did.

I needed to not be doing it.

Speaker 4

And that was from the moment I opened my eyes to the moment I closed them, every single move I made.

Speaker 2

Does this contribute to my goals?

If not, then I don't need to be doing this.

It's a waste of my time.

Speaker 4

Which can be a little intense, right, But some people work well with intents, so I don't know.

Speaker 2

I really liked that book.

Speaker 1

It was.

Speaker 2

It was really good.

No matter how you feel about Jay Prince, I do think it's one worth three.

Speaker 1

He's sitting right next to us.

Speaker 2

He's so disrespectful.

Speaker 1

What did I do?

Not all black people look like?

Worry?

Oh, I know, I agree with you, but you and j Prince look like don't like what I like?

I do.

I hear what you're saying, but nah.

I'm actually currently reading the book Rework, which focuses on the way in which you're productive, where overworking sometimes can lead to less production.

It's called Rework.

It's it's it's really interesting.

I just started it, so I can't give a full review, but I've enjoyed it so far.

But it does.

It focuses on how you structure your work schedule, and that overworking is is probably a bad idea when it comes to being productive more or less.

Speaker 2

Okay, Mal, are you currently reading anything?

You should we should start a book club.

Speaker 4

I'm currently reading, Like I told you guys earlier, I'm currently reading All about Love by belt Hooks, which is a study of love, but in an intellectual way, not an emotional way.

And she talks a lot about how a lot of us idea a lot of our ideas of love come from what our parents showed us.

But a lot of what our parents showed us is again care and affection but not love is a verb because love and abuse can can't coexist, love and negligence can't coexist.

So it's just a way to read look at love because a lot of us want we all wanted, but it's not studied the way other things that we all want is studied.

Speaker 1

So I would be down to do a podcast like book club with the listeners.

Not so much that I would say we have to like do the book club powows where we all going to circle and say what it meant to us, but just to keep everybody honest of chapters that we need to read by this this time.

I wouldn't be mad at that, because that's why I like the fitness shit of like with groups of people.

Fuck the camaraderie.

Just keep me honest, like I'm yeah, so I would be down to do that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I just feel like saying that.

Speaker 6

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Did you see?

Speaker 1

Do you know where we're at from?

I fell down a rabbit.

It's funny.

Speaker 3

When I was just dying left, I was Internet.

Speaker 1

I thought you're about to say a different word.

It's so confused.

Speaker 4

No, it's a This girl did a few a fool review and I want to give her I want to give her name because she's a creator and she's funny at ship.

She's also a really good singer.

She did a food review and she was eating something.

Speaker 2

And she ate it and she was like, but.

Speaker 1

This is this ship is crazy.

Speaker 2

Let me see if I can find it.

Speaker 1

She would do it on Patreon.

I'm down to do this on Patreon.

Speaker 2

Hubbard shout out to Ariana.

Speaker 1

Patreon, doctor Forward, slash new or mall.

We will be breaking down the term right away.

Appreciate you guys.

We'll be back soon.

We have oh no, if you're listening to you just heard day Lot so no, no, okay, we have day Lot Soul this week, which I'm super excited about.

My favorite interviews ever.

So if your legendary days you're still listening at this point in the podcast, we thank you when we have day Lot Soul this week.

I'm so excited.

Speaker 3

All right, we'll talk to you are soon on the Patreon we Go.

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