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The volume, no.
Speaker 2Cheers, welcome back.
Speaker 1That was Oh my asses are back.
All the nova cane has worn off.
We're still getting used to the tempts though.
Okay, but oh there's still the tempts.
They're not the real ones.
Yeah, I don't get the real ones till the day before Thanksgiving.
You got fake teeth?
Speaker 2Can I see him?
Speaker 1It's just my teeth, but they're just fake.
No, I'm serious.
It's just a mold of what my teeth were before, but it's they're fake.
Yeah, while they make like the real veneers and everything.
Do you like?
Yes, I have fake the change?
Speaker 2Do you like the change?
Speaker 1There's really there's no change now.
They're just fake, Like it's literally a mold of what my teeth were before, like chips and all are still here, but they're just like fake.
Speaker 2Oh okay, so there's nothing to be excited about yet.
Speaker 1No.
So yeah, now I'm just getting used to even having the tempts because you can you can feel it.
Speaker 2You had dentures, Can you take them out?
Speaker 3And in No, No, they're like you have dentures.
He doesn't have dentes to matters.
They're like, it's just me, you only have gumsy and mouth like you don't have no teeth.
He has teeth in his mouth.
Speaker 1Oh okay, this isn't a plug, but how great they were.
They did throw in a mouthguard for free, which I didn't know.
Mouthguards are like five hundred bucks.
Oh, because apparently just a very calm human being like me, you would be surprised.
You know, I grind my teeth at night, like when I sleep.
I'm not me, I do too.
Yeah, so I need to get my teeth as well.
So I need to get a mouthguard.
Do you sleep the one?
I was thinking about it though, I don't know.
I feel like I won't be able to sleep if I have.
I feel like I'm a football practice.
It's not well yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3It's a mouthpiece, but it's not as I don't think it's as obnoxious as a football mouthpiece.
Speaker 1Though, And what if, like you know, sometimes when you're sleeping with your soulmate, sometimes the middle of the night, like sometimes the mood arises, Like then I got to take the mouthguard out.
Speaker 3You wake up in the middle of night to have sex?
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean now, because I'm not having sex with anyone.
But once I'm sleep, I'm sleep.
See you on the other shoe.
I've never had some time see you on the other side of the moon.
Dabe Malls definitely had some rollover loving when you just roll over in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3Yeah, in the morning, like it's like the sun push your butt on, not like not night.
If we go to sleep at twelve, I'm not waking up at three thirty, like yo, it was good.
Speaker 1Like really no, I'm sound like a frequent thing, but yeah, it's definitely happened multiple times when you're like in a relationship.
Speaker 3Now we're doing like Bedrock Sundays, I'll go to sleep and wake up and like and it felt like it was like a whole new day and it was like you just left.
Especially now like you take do you fall asleep at two thirty on a Sunday and wake up at six you think it's a whole new day.
Yeah, it's like, yo, what it's nine thirty, Like six fifteen.
Speaker 2You wake up mad confused to like looking.
Speaker 3At it dark and feel like, you know, it slept ten hours four hours in the past, especially now when it goes you know, when it gets dark around four thirty.
Yeah, they got to get rid of rid of that daylight saving.
Shit, I'm on that side now.
Speaker 1I'm with you.
Speaker 3But it's amazing the things like I'm on the side of now as an adult, like, yeah, we can get rid of daylight savings.
Once I found out people in Arizona don't know nothing about that, I was.
Speaker 1Like, is that true?
They don't do that?
No, okay, what is it for farmers and crops or something which I still never fully understood.
I'm sure there's a deeper conspiracy to it that is insane.
It probably something to do with the roth Child's I could just say definitely, because even though it's only in a mass, something to do with our banking system.
I'm sure.
Speaker 4It's just very simple.
It's very simple.
People who wake up y'all don't wake up in the morning to go to work.
But people who wake up in the morning to go to work, they want a little bit of light to when they go, like to work.
Speaker 1Now, yes, right in the morning in the winter, it's dark, Like I remember walking to the bus stop and it'd be dark.
Speaker 4Yeah, it would be darker and it would take longer to get light if they didn't do daylight savings.
Speaker 3Okay, So it says the historical and traditional purposes, it was to save energy.
The original goal was to conserve fuel and energy by decreasing reliance on artificial lighting, maximize evening daylight.
Shifting clocks for it creates more usable daylight in the evening, which was thought to encourage which was thought to encourage outdoor activities after the workday.
Makes sense.
You like to go out after work?
Baby?
Do you need a little sunlight still out?
Speaker 1Well?
I mean I kind of maybe it's just the morbid in me.
I do like in the winter that it gets darker earlier, Like let's let's close the day a little earlier.
Summer I love, I love where it could stay light till eight pm.
That's amazing.
It's a summer, let's be outside.
But in the wintertime and it's cold, Yeah, let's shut this stay down around four forty five.
Speaker 3I never know.
I never know how many people I knew they had seasonal depression, Like I know a lot of people.
I'm just like, and I'm starting to notice it, Like I'm like, oh, you have seasonal depression, like you you get into a little funk around the fall, like summer, spring, total different person, four winter.
Speaker 1No, they called me four seasons it's not a seasonal things.
That's four seasons.
No, they call you something else?
What you want to come to work?
Speaker 4No more?
Speaker 3Man, we want to come to work at the workplace.
When I leave, when I get hold, what the fuck man, I can't do ship.
It's work depression.
I got work depression.
Speaker 1But no, seasonal opressions is definitely real.
Speaker 2Well you don't.
You don't suffer from seasonal depression at all.
Speaker 3No, I'm just depressed all year round, all four seasons.
I don't care what it's doing outside.
Fuck y'all.
Speaker 1Oh that's how I give it up.
So you finally admit that depression is real.
Yeah, depression, better better help me have you back after all?
No, No, I said suicide.
Here we go with suicide.
I didn't say what all I said was suicide.
I didn't say what mm hmm.
Called Rory.
Had better help.
When you're referring to the doors, it won't let me work there.
They won't won't let me work.
You work there?
Just called Rory, He'll help you out.
I mean, do you think seasonal pression comes from having to be inside or just cold in general?
Lack?
I think the hoes like to be naked and when they can't be naked no more.
They got you know, I don't know if that's really what we define seasonal pressure, but I see they make the culture.
They can't show well some whole show ass, I mean show ass in your house.
I think it's maybe probably just yes what well, actually, yes, the magic the OnlyFans dot Com Forward slash everybody.
Speaker 3Yeah, you can definitely pay bills from home for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah.
They probably get more work done in the winter, of course.
Yeah, unless we've flown out.
Yeah, it's the busy season.
Actually, I'm sure winter is their busy season.
No, it's all the guys are inside, not doing ship.
Everybody's depressed, just hand.
Speaker 3That's like their tax season, just hammering their hogs.
Speaker 2So seasonal depression sick.
Speaker 4Seasonal depression is caused by disruption in the body's internal clock, primarily due to reduce sunlight during certain seasons, which can lead to imbalances and the brain chemical serotonin and melatonin.
Speaker 3Oh see, that's why we got to get rid of daylight savings.
There's nothing so help seasonal depression.
Speaker 4Okay, So so baby, they we are we are gonna lose like darkness.
I mean we're gonna it was light no matter what, whether we observe daylight.
Speaker 2Savings or not.
Speaker 4Daylight savings is to try to give you a little bit more light during the day.
Speaker 2There's it'll be the same amount of light no matter.
Speaker 4What, but they change the clock so that you get a longer day.
Speaker 2Are you seeing what I'm saying?
Save amount of light?
Speaker 3Somebody in Arizona see how this affects them because they know nothing about it.
Speaker 4They don't know they don't observe daylight savings time, but they also get a different amount of sunlight than us.
They're on a totally different coast.
They're a totally different part of the world for their.
Speaker 1Coast part of the world.
I mean, it's like a two.
Speaker 3Hour flight Arizona, Arizona is like a four and a half hour depending on what you are well, I mean if you're in Nevada.
Yeah, I thought you were referring to where we were at the this year, right, same shit.
Speaker 4But yeah, like the light, the amount of light we get will be different.
It's just when you see that light will be at different times.
Speaker 1Is that that town that went viral on the grounds?
Speaker 3Let's see what the groundhogs think?
Speaker 1Is there groundhogs in the Arizona Desert a whole.
The rattlesnake shadow tells them that the cat has the town made it to y'all algorithm on Instagram.
It's like the town that has twenty four hour sunlight for half the year and then like twenty four hour darkness for the other half.
I've heard everyone leaves their watches at the bridge because they no longer need this.
I don't believe that's a bro No, No, The whole video is certainly AI, but I wasn't sure if it was really a town or not.
It's it's not Alaska, it's it's somewhere Alaska.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's a couple of.
Speaker 1Them, including j Barrow.
Speaker 3That's Alaska.
That's on Long Year begin Valordsval.
Speaker 4His name in the place Long Years, funniest ship.
Speaker 1Long Year.
And you do get to like the root of a lot of names, not the western ones that we changed, like York and Jersey, but like the real names.
Yeah, they're all very simple, like it's green here, that's what the word means.
Speaker 3In Norway, Trump's Norway.
The city experience is the midnight sun for about two months.
Speaker 1I think that's the one, the Norway one.
What was crazy because they showed like all this winter shit and they were like, sometimes you can see people playing soccer at four am, and I'm like, it's nothing but mountains of snow and the shit who's playing soccer?
So that's why I didn't know if it was real.
Would you do the Antarctica trip?
I know the flat earthers did it and became non flat earthers, but they saw the twenty four hours, so.
Speaker 3I would do that trip.
I don't know if I want to see that.
Speaker 1I would just want to see Antarctica and maximize my time by seeing it because it never gets dark.
Speaker 3Antarctica I would like to see, But I don't know if I want to see a sun for fucking six was it six weeks straight?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 3Experience the sun though for about two months?
Well yeah six weeks, nah, eight weeks, but that's what I'm saying.
The city experience is the midnight sun for about two months during the summer.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3No, I wouldn't want that.
I don't want to see the sun for two months straight.
Speaker 2I would.
Speaker 4The sun makes me happy, The sun gets me up.
If it's a I can always tell if it's raining before I open my fucking eyes.
Because I have such a hard time hurting up.
Speaker 1You know, old black mothers like to tell you it's gonna rain.
Speaker 3No be the knee, her knee, the knee, sirted feet, back, arm.
Speaker 1But we needed this, we needed this, yeah, the middle New York City, we needed this, We.
Speaker 3Needed this ring.
Speaker 1No, now it's just dirty or here.
Speaker 3No, I think the rain clean cleans New York.
It brings, it brings up all the dirt.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3I mean sometimes these sidewalks be so filthy, like I know, I know when it needs to like down poor rain, Like you can see juice on the sidewalk for three four days.
I'm like, all right, bro Like.
Speaker 4But the way it's been downpouring in New York not to be too local, and it's been flooding.
Speaker 2New York's been flooding.
That's weird as fuck.
Like why it was all.
Speaker 3The leaves that was like, they don't they're not cleaning the drains.
I knew that was gonna happen on Like you still see so many leaves.
I'm like, like, where the street clean is the street sweepers at?
I don't even see those no more like.
Speaker 1That you do when you're about to get a parking ticket.
They just pop up.
Speaker 3But that's the only time to feel they're like bloody marry in the mirror.
Have you ever looked at the street sweepers, Like sometimes the brush is not even hitting us the street.
They just and I'm like, well, you're not clean and shit, you just you just circling the block.
Speaker 1I'm going to take a video next time on my block of when the street sweepers call.
They literally it's like if you just went in a dusty ass kitchen and just went like this and then walked out.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's like that we could get I think we could get rid of it.
Speaker 1They leave like a wet line and then all the trash, dust and dirt there too.
Now there's just a wet line.
That's all they do.
Sometimes the brush is like not even hitting the street, it's just moving.
Speaker 3It's not I've noticed that for years.
I'm like, I don't don't think I think we can get rid of this part of the sanity.
Speaker 1Or just like a new version of it that like sucks up the garbage or like I just feel like that's one thing that they have not advanced when they could have with street sweepers.
Yeah, but I mean I'm Donnie's gonna do it.
Donnie's gonna We'll probably be able to just just walk into a street sweeper.
They probably just parking with theyre using the ignition and you can just do it yourself.
Speaker 3They're gonna use you for a street but that's what you about to be the street sweeper, that's for sure.
But uh, where are we at?
I know it's been a sort of a slow news week.
Speaker 2Why yeah you telling me Usher and Brian Michael Cox's beefing?
Speaker 3They not beefing?
Ain't I beefing?
You got to be Cox?
Be Cox posted a he he posted a response to it.
Okay, well I think a company.
He was like that was like like a minority like investor into something like that in Usher going through something.
Speaker 1It's not Brian Michael Cox specifically, but still involved.
So for those that haven't read this, Brian Michael Cox and his company, we're trying to open up like a restaurant lounge in Buckhead, Atlanta.
Usher invested one point seven million dollars into it.
A year passes and nobody even bought a property.
So Usher's like, yeah, let me get my money back.
I believe they gave him a million back, but not the other seven hundred thousand, and now he's suing for four point nine million in damages because he hasn't received this seven hundred thousand dollars back.
I did not see what be Cox's response was.
If you want to fill them in on that and fill me up.
Speaker 3Oh no, he just he just posted that him and Usher's relationship is still very much intact.
It was just, you know, a company that he or a venture that he was there goes right here.
I've learned a lot recently about being careful with who you choose to invest in a business with, no matter how small the investment.
I'm currently in the middle of a failed deal that I didn't orchestrate, and while the situation has been disappointed, I know my name will be cleared by both sides.
It's just unfortunate that this clarity didn't come sooner.
My legal team has also advised me of a lawsuit involving in company where I am only a passive minority shareholder.
I was not a participant in that business transaction and have no involvement in the ongoing legal process.
While I'm unable to share more details right now, I want to make one thing absolutely clear.
My twenty seven year friendship with Usher remains fully intact.
I appreciate everyone who has reached out with concern.
Thank you for the love, the patience and understanding.
So yeah, it just sounds like, you know, they had as friends, they had an idea to open the lounge, you know, try to do something together, and sometimes you know, things don't go away everyone had anticipated or hoped and Usha is probably like, all right, well shit, I want my money back.
And you know, because Michael Brian Michael Cox is a minority shareholder in this investment, and you know they're gonna attach it to Brian Michael Cox as well.
But I was glad that he to see that because when I first read it, I was like, damn be Cox and Usher's beefing, Like, oh man, but this is.
Speaker 1Just a could lead to some good writing material.
Speaker 3Yeah, this is just a business venture that just didn't go the way I think all parties anticipated.
And Usher is seeking to get his money back, and Brian Michael Cox is just a part of the the investment.
Speaker 1Josh, can you pull up on YouTube because you don't got to be specific YouTube division.
If I get caught DVSN hmm, not the Division sign if I get caught, so damarus.
When I read this article, initially it said that the money was used for other things, and then it brought me back to how expensive that video Division did with Mal with Friends of the Show Lex Andrea, Like, this was a really expensive video.
And when the article said the money was used for other things, now I'm starting to think ba Cox maybe paid Mall a little extra from his fee to get him to Atlanta and do this video.
Are you a minority share owner in this company as well?
Speaker 5Mo?
Speaker 1No, I ain't like that.
Speaker 3No, I have nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1I feel like you were shocked.
I just connected all the dots and you've been caught this video if I get called ironically is the name of the song?
Speaker 3No, that that is the name of the song which has Mal has nothing to do.
Speaker 1I mean, be guy's right there right next to you.
Everyone looks at the guy.
Everyone looks like they have a lot of money in this video.
Yeah, that that had nothing to do with me, Like, like I could do whatever with it.
Speaker 3We had a great time, had a great day shooting, and everybody went home and that was it, all right.
Speaker 1But did you see a card come out who like put the build during this whole thing.
Are you ever concerned and look at this car?
Speaker 3What type of this you would have to I believe that was a my box Okay, yes, unless they reboop him my ride.
Speaker 1I've never seen a mayback with a hookah dispensary in it.
That seems like something that you would have to pay high dollar for.
I'm around like one point seven million.
This is kind of what this video felt like to me.
That was a Daniel exclusive right there.
Speaker 3The way they had that just take that, the way they had that ship taped in the back.
I was like, I don't think niggas smoke cucka in the car, but whoever own.
Speaker 1That mayback, shout out to them, because you know people will bring their cars to video shoots to rent them out.
Imagine you got your mayback at a video shoot.
You see someone lighting a coal, I would lose my fucking mind.
No he did, though I know he was smoking hooka in that.
Homie was like really nervous about that.
That whoka the whole night.
Was it electronic or it was really cold?
I think it.
I think it might have been real cold.
Speaker 2He wouldn't have been nervous about electronic.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think it, but I think it was real cold.
But you know they had the foil with it up where it wouldn't like fall off one speed bump and buckhead is sending that cold in the mall's lap.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Sometimes though we had a good time shoot never do Okay, so you.
Speaker 1Can assure that this this came directly from LVRN.
Speaker 3O v O.
Yes, the thing I think LVRN, you know, covered this and everything was fine.
Speaker 1I mean tax records, I think are public.
If you're a questioning, we can we can do some digging.
Speaker 4What you mean if I get caught cheating, I don't mean I don't love you like it just be shit.
That just don't make sense that you turn into a song.
Speaker 3I don't mean think I think they're a pretty director.
What is there ast act whatever?
I was just wondering.
She ain't make no sense to me.
I'm sorry, y'all go back.
You think that if somebody teaching, that means they don't love you.
Speaker 4I think that love is a is an action, and part of part of the verb of love is making a commitment, not only just the commitment, the honesty portion.
We go into that because I'm currently reading all about Love by Bell Hooks, and there's just so much more that goes into the verb love.
I think people can care about somebody, show affection system, and have feelings for somebody, but to actively verbally, I mean, as a verb love them.
Speaker 3No, So you don't believe in making mistakes.
Speaker 4I believe in making mistakes.
But cheating ainate a mistake, that's a choice.
Didn't take mad steps to get the cheating.
I know I cheated before mad steps.
Speaker 3Sometimes the choices you make or turn out to be mistakes.
Speaker 4No, because a mistake is something like damn, like I called you like mill and your name is Maul.
That's a mistake, Like I didn't mean to do it.
Speaker 1You're never intentionally not intentionally made a mistake, but intentionally done something and then afterwards like that was a real mistake.
Even though I was very lucid in what I was doing, I now know that that was a complete mistake on my behalf.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4It was a choice.
It just was a bad one.
It was a bad choice.
It wasn't a mistake.
It's accidentally you accidentally do something that's a mistake.
You just made a bad choice or a choice that you regret, it's not a mistake.
Speaker 3So if you okay, So if you're out right now with your girls and you know, your party and dinner, having a good time doing what y'all do.
Speaker 1A guy's at dinner.
Speaker 3Somebody's friend is a guy, y'all start just flirting whatever, and you kiss him, but you're like, you're you know, you've been drinking.
Speaker 1I'm just saying you've been drinking.
It's like, you know, you didn't.
Speaker 3Really mean to kiss him, but then you realize right after kiss him, like damn, Like that was crazy, Like that's never happened.
Speaker 1You never made mast.
Speaker 2Steps to get to that kissing.
Speaker 4It's mad because you had to feel something for that person before you even kiss them.
And the moment you had any type of feeling that was inappropriate or something that you or your partner didn't agree upon, you should have got the fuck up out of there and realized, WHOA, this is inappropriate?
Speaker 1Okay?
I would say Gary V is a good good source of reference here right.
Gary V says a mistake is an unintentional error, often caused by oversight, misunderstanding, or lack of information, while a bad decision is a conscious, deliberate choice to do something wrong or with a poor outcome.
So a key role is intent and accountability.
Mistakes are accidents.
Bad decisions require ownership of the action and its consequences.
I'm mistakenly made a bad choice, you say.
Speaker 3To that baby, d She's kick I'm sorry, my bad, sorry, I was what I think.
I'm sorry I didn't hear it.
And see, I'm gonna listen back just to hear what you just said, because I didn't say.
Speaker 2I was just wondering.
Speaker 4No, I was just I remember when you were in that music video and I was just like, look at what Mall's champion?
Speaker 3Wait?
Speaker 1What did he champion?
The song?
Speaker 2That message?
Speaker 3I was just hanging out with my homies for the night, Like I didn't.
Speaker 4They labeled when they were casting the eight Ship best Friend, they said, I know who fits this Mall.
Speaker 3Well he played it.
That's the wrong That's all they get.
They didn't mean to give me that title.
It was a restakingly good decisions.
Wait, it wasn't.
What was the end of the video, wasn't It ended up being like, no, my phone, it was your phone.
Speaker 1Yeah, Drea found my I left my phone at the house and she thought it was Daniel's phone.
Speaker 3So she was standing outside waiting for us to get back so she could raise Hell, she's already like toy his ship up in the house, did all of that, and then we get back and I'm like, oh shit, damn, I left my phone, so it was like my phone.
I mean, I'm the single friends girls, Yeah, girls could be texting me, but she's thinking girls are texting Daniel's phone.
So yeah, I.
Speaker 1Feel like you would know, as someone that has used that excuse when being abruptly woken up out of their sleep, I feel like you would know if this was your man's phone.
Speaker 2Enough plot hole, because why ain't no text for me in there?
Speaker 1You know, delete, deleting your girl's text messages and keeping the others the.
Speaker 3Wildest Yeah no, but she didn't get into I think she stre like the lock screen, you can see the texts coming in, and she probably seemed like, you know, different girls texting, but you know something you know, but you're thinking, You're trying to think like logical, you know, in that moment when you already think your man is like doing dirt and you think you found the smoking gun and you don't realize that ain't his gun.
Like it's easy to like overlook the factly that ain't even his phone.
Speaker 4Nah, nah, it's a plot hole in that.
I would know, you know they lived together.
It ain't like like they live together.
She knows what his phone looked like.
Speaker 1Ah, he could have a second phone.
Let's pay that.
Speaker 3No, that's a big that's that's big.
No, No, you got a second phone or your girl don't know you a whole new.
Speaker 1Could have thought.
I just found Daniel's second phone, like, not his main phone, his other one.
Okay, so yeah, I don't think that's a pothole in the descript he found like he got two phones or.
Speaker 2You say, you don't think it's so what pothole?
Plot plots hole?
Speaker 3Yeah, but yes, we paid.
Can't paid that pothole.
The l's don't roll out to the new.
Speaker 2I'm like.
Speaker 3They left.
They let the l's at this office got to extra for Yeah, you gotta get your l's back.
Speaker 1Glenndelle gave me a great discount with left the ls l's.
I gotta pay.
Speaker 3That's a texture for that.
Speaker 4I've never been in a music I feel like everybody on staff has been in a music video, but me, Uh yeah.
Speaker 3Shut your own video.
That is true.
Speaker 4You had a video before all of us.
That's whatever.
But I mean as an actor or actress, I've never been in a music video.
Y'all have y'all like video hos.
Speaker 1Uh you've been in.
Speaker 2A couple, you've been in your own, you've been in other people's.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, no, I've actually not I think about it.
I have been in a lot of music videos.
They gave more a lot of shit for that, and I just quietly sat like I've been way more doing way worse things than all music videos.
Speaker 3Yeah, that was the homies.
It was just the homeie just hanging out for the day and just recorded it.
That's all that shit was literally hung out for the night.
It came out great and pressed record.
That's all of that was so.
Speaker 1It was fun though we could stay on music.
I feel like we we were the trend setters for having brawls at shows that don't warrant it whatsoever.
In the greater DMV area.
We had a fight at our show at Howard theaterre was that last year, Yes, last year for some reason, there was a fight that broke out at a podcast show m HM.
That was resolved quickly and we continued on, nobody was harmed.
But then I see this morning that they were fighting at a Leon Thomas show, and Leon Thomas even put a comment under, so I got no songs that weren't the shit?
Yeah, like, what song was you fighting like?
I ain't got nothing in.
Speaker 3His catalog that feels like knuck if you buck?
Like it ain't no reason for y'all to be fighting at a least.
Speaker 1I'm trying to think what I like, what's the jakewan Hood hop beat?
That could be the same bpm in the Mutt Like maybe they did a remix and yeah.
Speaker 3But the context, the lyrics, it's the vibe.
Speaker 1Have a dog, I'm a mutt.
Let's fight, Yeah, but that ain't fighting at it.
Speaker 3I never understood fighting at like shows like that, like definitely the live podcast, but then like an R and B show, see.
Speaker 1Don't do that ye fight for letus Now we diffused it.
We almost got a fight at a Summer Walker show at Awerie Ballroom, like her first show ever, when it was only like fifty people in the crowd.
I almost all of us why it was definitely the other people's fault.
We diffused it because we were like, well, we're trying.
We're gonna about to fight at a summer Walker show.
Speaker 3Oh I don't remember.
Speaker 1We were upstairs and yeah it was it was their fault.
They were being weak, Okay, but yeah it was.
It was close.
Speaker 3Now I'm now hold on because I could understand people fighting at an R and B show.
If you see your significant other day with somebody, you didn't think that they was Yeah, you know, it could be okay, I didn't think about that.
Yeah, it could be date night for somebody and you ain't know your you know, your buo was going out on something like it could be somebody got caught cheating.
Speaker 1Can imagine imagine you see your girl's location and it's at the Fillmore in Maryland, you google, oh shit, Leon Thomas show, and then you try to go and the ticket sold out.
So now you're just sitting outside waiting for her.
I can't even go and surprise her.
Speaker 3I'm not doing that.
I'm not sitting outside no show that I know my girl is that way for to come outside.
I just don't want that because I know me, man, I don't want that.
Speaker 1Dressing in public would be a bit.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I don't want that problem.
I don't want that.
I would just I mean, it's sometimes easy to just be like, yo, you know what, do your thing.
As hard as that is, you know, just do your thing.
I'm not going to jail for no, no pushy, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 1But also don't do that.
There's words have been exchanged division shows before of people that claimed they could fight and that didn't want to.
But maybe it was because it was a division show that was the reason.
Who would fight at the R and B show?
But I mean, we're civilians.
That person is a certified thug, so I thought it was always old.
What do I know?
But yes, people fight at R and B shows.
Yes, And we definitely almost got shaken at a Summer Walker show, which is insane.
I don't remember at Bowery Ballroom, of all places, I don't remember that on the balcony too, there's not really much room to fight.
I can't remember that.
I mean, I do remember being able, I don't remember that almost fight.
Speaker 3Well.
Speaker 1I'm glad nobody was hurt.
And I feel for Leon too, because venues don't really research shit.
They just see headlines.
And it's like, now, Leon could look like a lie.
But even though obviously he's not was he able to finish the shut up a lot for artists.
Speaker 3Was he able to finish the show that they didn't like fully say, but I mean, I just like the fact that he went online and shit, listen, I ain't got no songs that warrant.
Yeah, Like this is like I don't hear nothing that I was performing with warrants.
Try to stop?
Speaker 1What was the was it when fifty was doing like his Vegas residency and they hooked him to the ship and he was flying like fifty has no songs for you, flying over the crowd.
Speaker 3It's just weird when rappers start doing like pop artist ship think it's hilarious.
It's like what you doing?
Speaker 1Man?
Speaker 3Like why are you flying around the arena?
Speaker 1We also don't talk enough about fifty being upside down.
You look at fifty knowing fifty, yeah, but.
Speaker 3Knowing fifty he did this ship on purpose, like yeah, he know, like he know he ain't supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1That, yo.
He was not that one like fifty.
No, he ain't supposed to be suspended midair and this looks like it's sound check.
He just chilling out, yo.
That is hilarious.
Doing that to many men would be hilarious just flying over and pointing at many men.
But I mean, if I was a superstar like fifty was and had the budget that he did at this point, I would just start checking things off my bucket list, like when he does these world tours.
I would just find the wildest things that I could do.
Speaker 3Yeah, fifty ain't not supposed to be not supposed to be like suspended midair though.
Speaker 1Like did you see the video of Chris Brown's mom when she wanted to do the look at me now run that he does in the stadiums Oh yeah, like before the show.
It's like an amusement park ride.
If I was on that tour, I would one thousand percent ask like, hey, like before y'all do sound check, you matter if I strap.
Speaker 3End me up and spin me around the arena real quick and.
Speaker 1Then give me a mic and let me try like to sing.
Speaker 4Would y'all ry, do you plan on going to Leon's show?
I mean, I hope you not shooting hands, but you know he's here this weekend in New York.
Speaker 1If I can get a vibsitter, yeah, I feel like Leon's been on tour for like three years straight, so he needs a break.
Yeah, and how is he putting out these amazing EPs while he's also singing every single night?
Yeah, I hope Leon takes twenty twenty six to like chill.
Where's he at this?
Speaker 3Where's he at this week?
Speaker 1You said this weekend?
Speaker 4Yeah, he's here this weekend, He's here Sunday and Monday.
Where's he performing the Actually I am not sure.
Speaker 2I'll look that up.
Speaker 3I would definitely want to check me on out.
Love.
Speaker 2Why you want to go with me?
Speaker 3No, let's do it.
Speaker 1No, I'll go fuck myself as cool at Brooklyn Paramount, which I mean, if you're listening to this, that the show has passed.
But Joey Badass is there tonight, which I know will be a good show.
Speaker 2If you're listening to listening to this, the show has not passed.
Speaker 1Joey Bass, Oh, joe is tonight.
As we're recording this, it'll pass by the time they hear this.
But yeah, Leon Thomas November twenty third is in Brooklyn and the twenty fourth as.
Speaker 3Well, both at Brooklyn Paramount.
Speaker 1Yeah, is he taking Thanksgiving off?
Speaker 4At least they got the drinks and I'm going back to bag.
I hear lea wait, which which day is the twenty fourth.
Oh, I could do Monday.
Speaker 3Ooh, I could do Monday.
Speaker 1Monday is my day.
Ooh, I could do Monday when you don't really get very many games.
I heard, I heard it.
I heard the like it's a lot.
Like I can't go to the Joey Badass Show tonight, which I would love to, but I can't.
Yeah, that happens because surprisingly, in New York, most shows are during the week because they're going to sell out, whereas they try to focus on smaller markets for the weekend because they do better.
In New York, people are going out every night.
It doesn't matter.
So usually I have to miss most of the shows because they're they're during the week, but after work on Monday I usually have off.
So, like, should we go as a family?
I'm down.
When was the last time you were in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3Last weekend?
Speaker 1Oh?
Wow, okay, I'll bet Yeah.
Speaker 3They know me in Brooklyn.
They love me out too, they know you?
Speaker 1Yeah, they love me anyways to be a mall yeah you hell yeah.
Speaker 3Brooklyniggas don't know you, bro.
Brooklyn niggas don't know you, bro.
You crazy?
You know what I used to be doing?
They know me, no, no, tell us No, definitely not Leon Thomas November twenty fourth and twenty third, But you I would definitely want to check me out out.
I like him.
I want to see his h what his live show looks like.
Speaker 1Where do you think they don't know?
Speaker 3You don't know me?
I mean, it's a lot of places they don't know me.
Not I mean New York.
It's very hard for me to go in a borrow and not know the right people because some of y'all be knowing people in burd Blaine White know that nigga.
Speaker 1Fuck about that nigga and you know him?
Speaker 3Man?
Speaker 1Wait all right, So then what's the definition of they know me out there?
If somebody know me out there?
Don't they know me out there?
Speaker 3No, But it's a difference.
It's like when you know the right people.
I get what you're saying, but but I don't know if the random random people don't know me, like nobody knows them the movers and shakers, Okay, got you got the people that niggas know know me?
Okay, yeah, all right, but what what is the line and the scale of that?
Like they have to be a part party promoter, they have to be like no party promoters.
I don't want no party promoters to know me.
Speaker 1Usually, I'm saying you, Usually that's a front for something.
No, just like you know the guys.
You know the guys are talking about.
Speaker 3They ain't afraid the guys.
Yeah, they not promoting no parties.
They don't want to be on no flyers.
They ain't doing that.
Speaker 1Well, I guess I think I think they know me in Brooklyn.
Oh no, they ain't know me in Brooklyn.
Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 5No.
Speaker 3People in Brooklyn absolutely, Mom, when I said it's sound foreign.
Speaker 1Because I wanted you to explain to the people with I know what you were trying to say.
But some people could take that as like, yeah, I got like two friends from college that live in Brooklyn.
They know.
Speaker 3That's a whole different thing.
That's definitely not what I was saying.
Speaker 1No, when you walk in you are protected.
Yes, they know malls and tell you I'm checking with him, just going.
Speaker 3To see the family.
They want to see some good friends' so man times in Brooklyn, of course.
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Speaker 1Let's stay since so Leon in Maryland, d C.
Did you see the Wiley clip?
I believe it was Breakfast Club right.
He was talking to Charlotmagne and he said that he was talking to Cole and Kendrick about you know, he has a child on the way, and talked about some of his problems and just venting to the homies.
And then the next fucking day j Cole put out false profits.
Mm hmm, can we play the clip?
Speaker 6I remember I called Kendrick around that time.
We talked about like like we just had that was at that time, and I remember like like getting ready.
Speaker 3To have my child.
Speaker 1I talked cold.
Speaker 6That was probably only two times I really leaned on an industry person, you know.
So, But the crazy thing is FoST prophets came up the next day, post came out this very next day after.
But I ain't take it, you know what I'm saying.
But I think, nah, but I mean he said it's not really about me.
But I mean, all I'm saying is that that's that's my I love him, that's my brother.
Speaker 1Whatever.
Speaker 6I just I mean, I think I kind of halted telling any industry and anything too deep like around that time, like I just like, you know what, I only don't even want to think that they're using this.
Speaker 1Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3So nigga, what what didn't you understand?
That sounds like he was getting cut off.
He's like saying, I ain't want to you know what I say, MA say what you're saying?
That was nah, That's what I'm saying.
You say what you're saying that was whack.
And as a result of that, I don't really be talking to these rat niggas because I don't know if they're using like personal conversations for content.
Speaker 1And that's what he was saying.
But that's what he that's what he wanted to say, but that ain't what he said.
He said it though like not no, I don't, he said, but saying like that, no people he used against me.
Speaker 3But that's the thing in this industry because wile A is a nice guy by nature, very nice guy.
And then when you find out that everybody ain't nice and everybody ain't the way you are, then you get on these platforms and you don't want to say it because you don't want to seem like you're talking nobody about nobody and not respect it about.
But sometimes you got to be like yo, listen, man, Homie did some wax shit.
And as a result of that, I don't really be opening up to rappers and trying to get too cool with these niggas because they move funny just.
Speaker 1Say that shit.
But I'm not about first, so I'm not gonna let you do that because the timeline is is a little a little off with this, and it definitely was resolved.
And I also think j Cole, out of all the rappers, is probably just as equally nice as a human being as Wiles Cole.
Speaker 3No knocking, I'm just saying wile was sounding like he wanted to say something at the same time he didn't want to say nothing.
Speaker 1Now, in fact, if in fact they had that conversation on let's say the first and then false profits dropped on the second.
I have to give so much credit to Cole Felt in the creative team.
The fact that you could write that record and make Jamaica Avenue into Willie Wanka Chocolate factory video.
Wow, what a turnover to put it out.
But I'm sure he was probably paraphrase.
I'm sure it came out shortly after.
But then while a put out Groundhog's Day, which I think is one of the more underrated I don't think it's a dis more underrated responses like it still has replay value to me.
I still love groundhog Day.
And then they went to the I think it was a North Carolina game.
The next day they were sitting courts out together like they resolved the entire thing.
Yeah, and I don't think I'm not saying it's beef me.
It's like, you know, what's rap.
Speaker 3You can have a little friendly like fire, like a friendly little like back and forth with dudes that you're really cool with.
Speaker 2So, just to clarify, y'all are telling me that y'all think false prophets.
It's about wi.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think one verse about Kanye and one verse about wile A.
What was the first verse?
Speaker 3I'm trying to remember, maybe d I'm just speaking to in this in this clip that y'all just showed me, while A seemed like he wanted to say something but that he didn't want to because it's resolved, And no, I get it, I understand it, But then don't speak on it.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Why not you can still.
Speaker 4Speak about some The first verse being about Kanye makes sense, right, second verse.
Speaker 2Is the one that you would say would be about wile Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1Absolutely, which I mean we we've covered when it came out.
Obviously that was a big week on Twitter of what who's who were the verses about?
But yeah, and if if Wiley had a conversation with Cole, who he was on tour with at the beginning of his career, slept in the same tour bus, somebody that he probably can fid with, like, not just some random stranger that also raps, Like I'm pretty sure they had spent a lot of time together in a real way.
Yeah, when they were I think it was a blueprint to three one whatever.
There's a footage of them in Denny's, like they they lived together for a long time, they grew up together, like that was their their college years more or less.
Yeah, I'm sure he said a lot of similar things to him in this conversation, and Cole, having one of the greatest pens ever, easily just put that on in rhyme form, and while he was like, what the fuck, I just had a conversation with you about all these talking points.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
I don't think what Cold did was wrong.
Speaker 3Like, you know, sometimes you draw inspiration from real life things, and if you had a conversation with the close front of yours and it inspired you to write a verse, like I like that.
I respect that.
I'm just saying, you know, with Wila, because wile A is, you know, we always give him as flowers.
We always say that he needs to be talked about more, and you know, but in this clip, it just seemed like he had something on his mind, on his heart that he wanted to say, but then he didn't want to say something that could be taken the wrong way.
And things like that, like that's all I'm speaking.
So is just like he sounded like he had something he wanted to say, but at the same time he held back and was like, nah, I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, I guess this does go back to conversations we've had just over the years.
If if I was Wila when this came out, I would I would feel a way now outside looking and thinking what I know wile A and Cold's relationship was at that time, and things I SAI say to you you put on WAX.
I don't think this is a dys but it's like, damn, you put our conversation in a song and didn't tell me.
Now if Cold have been like YO tomorrow, if you're mad, I totally understand it.
Here's the song.
Just want to give you a heads up.
I would respect that more, but I don't know if it's owed the older I've gotten, which we've talked about multiple times, friends even in the music industry that I consider friends not associates, I still don't put as much stake into it as I used to, of thinking that they would owe me anything the way friends maybe you grew up with or don't work with do so that happens, So I see what while they is saying now of like, yeah, you can still talk about feel a way and it's resolved and him and Cole are cool.
They shift, they put out a number one record together with the Vibrant Thing sample like, but I'm still like looking at it, like now I know how to move with people I even thought were friends in the industry per se.
Yeah, I'm not just move or I don't have to expect now if I say something, it could be used against me.
And that's in the quarter of hip hop, in the court of hip hop, yes for sure.
Speaker 2But okay, not cold caping, I swear because that needs to.
Speaker 1Be a friend is a classic record, not.
Speaker 2Even see what the cargan.
Speaker 3Okay, that was a cape.
Speaker 4I don't know if I'm Wila, which I've never been wil A.
I've never been famous and talented and all of these cool things.
So I know, I don't know if I'm Wila if I hear that verse, if I'm offended, I don't, or if I feel like I was betrayed.
Speaker 2You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4I don't know if I feel that way, because honestly, that verse, the first verse can very obviously be set up to be about Kanye, right, But the second verse, if him and Yla weren't friends, nobody would I don't think people would assume that that verse was about Wila because that fits.
That's about so many rappers that are doing well but maybe not as well as they feel like they should be doing, or comparing, you know, drawing comparisons to their peers or anything like that.
You can make that verse about so many people in in the music industry.
So that's what I'm like that And even even so, even if I did have that conversation with my friend, I don't know if that's the same thing that my friend told me in private, If it's the same the advice that you give in the verse, If it's the same advice that my friend gave me in private, I don't know if I feel offended or if I feel like I should have kept that to myself.
For example, Roy, you've used You've sent me lyrics that were like yo, I draw I drew inspiration from you and Homie.
Remember, I can't be mad at you like you betrayed me because I was honest about my love life and you used it in a song like that's even if you never sent it to me beforehand.
If I heard that, I'm like, hey, that's about yeah.
Speaker 1But that was very much more open ended than how direct R and B opening R and B lyrics are really for interpretation, Like they're not as specific as what these rap verses are.
In the way Cole masterfully put this together, it made you want to guess who exactly he was talking about the lyrics.
I said you nobody would sit there and go like, well, who exactly is this about?
With all the clues that are in there.
But here, here's the thing where I'm a hypocrite.
In this entire conversation.
I've talked about personal stuff on this podcast, whether it be significant others, whether it be my parents, whether it be my family members, and I never asked for permission, never even thought to give them a heads up, Hey this, I'm talking about this tomorrow, it's going out.
So I'm a hypocrite.
And we've got that way.
Speaker 2We've all done that.
Speaker 1So it's not like I don't understand what Cole did.
I've done it way more than Cole has, so I get it.
But I understand why significant others, my family, my parents have felt away the same way.
I think while they would too.
And on top of that, now everybody's in my mentions, and I already told you some of my anxieties with this entire thing, and that very thing that you took is now adding to my anxiety with all the fans in my mentions talking about the shit.
Speaker 2So I get it.
Speaker 1But I think while they handled it fine, I was talking about the past because they were reminiscent in that Breakfast Club interview about kind of those four of Cole Drake, Kendrick wil A and how they all started together.
So talking about the ups and downs, I don't think it's a bad thing.
And I'm sure while it's past, the ship, but he probably is, Like I'm not.
I'm keeping some ship to myself, no matter who I think is a close association in the industry with stuff.
Speaker 3No friends in the industry, my brothers and my brothers.
I mean kidding me, fat, that's the fact.
Speaker 1But even then, like I don't even think anything that jams y'all just jamming.
Listen to what niggas be telling you.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 1I was fine, you fools listening to music and just skimming through it.
Speaker 3I mean, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you in the road.
I went, I went, I was a young angel, but these niggas turn me evil.
That villain origin story is gonna be classic.
I'm telling y'all right now, just that Villainori.
We're gonna look back and like that's the moment it happened.
I'm telling y'all.
But anyway, Yeah, while shot the great album, I'm still bumping that, still listening to that.
Like it more and more every listen.
I do like the Summer Walker album too, So you've finally given it some Yeah, I've been spending that the last like Monday and then Tuesday, I was like, okay, let me listen to the something.
Let me see what she was.
She really gave us on this one.
Speaker 2Did to the Mariah album like I told you I did.
Speaker 1I've been told you.
Speaker 3I listened to that album.
Speaker 4I can't remember.
We talked a lot in this podcast.
I forgot it.
I forget a lot of things.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, I listened to that.
But I like the Summer album.
I'm what I like the sum album.
Speaker 1It's not it's very good.
Speaker 2Is there any other R and B you guys are looking forward to like coming up.
Speaker 3I'm looking forward to Division quarter.
I don't know if they dropping.
I don't know if they dropping fourth quarter, but.
Speaker 4Fourth or first or even just next year because we got a lot this year.
So is there anyone you're looking forward to next year?
Speaker 1I think I don't think siss is going to take as much time off R and B you tomorrow, mm hmm.
I think we'll get a siss A projects relatively soon.
I want to hear the new Maida project same.
I mean, I love the k Trinata one where she just took a break off the cellar it made is another.
Speaker 3As an artist that I don't think people talk about enough when the ladies in R and B, like the ladies in R and B, like you know, we throw names around, but Mayda's name doesn't get brought up enough and like she's super dope, like like you said, the k Trinada project that was that was that was crazy.
But then when she gets into her full R and B ballot bag, like Mada can sing her ass off.
Yeah, she ain't one of the you know, even though we listen to the whispers, singers and all of that, Like Maida is not that though she can like she can go up there with just a piano and just a mic and and tear sit up.
Speaker 2So for everybody that's m A.
E.
Speaker 1T A.
Speaker 2If you've never heard of her, please go check her out.
Speaker 1Out the Mada Clio Soul.
I look forward to trying to think who would be in like album cycle at this time, because we did get a lot.
I'm just looking back at twenty twenty four who dropped because maybe twenty six would give us that.
I mean Victoria Monet definitely.
I think that, Yeah, I think she would be somebody that would.
Jasmine Sullivan.
Where's Jasmine at Hotels?
Speaker 3Is what?
Speaker 1Twenty three?
Speaker 3She gave us that clink to twenty three?
Speaker 4Yeah, twenty two maybe twenty one for that I was saying, might but her her mom died?
Speaker 3Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah a year ago or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, when did when did Hotels come out?
Speaker 2That was like twenty into twenty twenty one?
Top of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3If I'm not gonna say nah that y'all y'all tripping, I think that might be too twenty twenty.
Speaker 4It was not twenty twenty bit all right.
I was working for this podcast when it came out.
It was like twenty hotels.
Speaker 1Hotels came out.
Yo, this is gonna trip you out even more.
January eighth, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, the top eight days in have this show.
Yeah, we didn't have the show till May twenty twenty one.
Yeah, damn, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Like I knew that shit was like and I was I said twenty twenty January, Oh yeah, you know what I'm thinking about the Deluxe when the Deluxe ye, yeah, the Deluxe game later for sure, the Deluxe was a real deluxe.
It had like extra songs on that ship.
So yeah, yeah with Jasmine, I mean condolences.
You know, she lost some moms, but you had Jazmine Culliban that that hotel is probably she dropped that on us, and it's like, y'all hold that for the next five years and let me know when one of these one of these ladies catch up to this singing right here, because they not catching up to Jasmine.
I Love I Love all the Jazmine sullivans O.
Speaker 4Kaylanie was actually talking about that.
I had heard of a clip of her basically saying like or a post of her basically saying like Jasmine is not like these women's peers, Like, let's not talk like Jasmine is like one of the mothers of R and B at this point, Like.
Speaker 1She's one of the Absolutely she's from modern R and B.
Speaker 3Absolutely, Yeah, Jazmine Celman, she could be in the room with you know.
Speaker 1She's legacy, the legend.
Yeah, but still very much relevant and the songs.
Speaker 4Are like, it's not just like because I feel like Jennifer Hudson has the issue of she hasn't been able to keep up the music quality or the song quality has not kept up with her voice quality, whereas with Jasmine, she has the voice quality, but the songs are also bomb as fucked too, Like it's not just yelling, it's not she doesn't just showcase her voice.
Speaker 1It's an over sing and not to say Jennifer does, but that is usually the main part of the song, which ends up being very much here's my ballads, here's my version of pop, and here's a traditional Like Jasmine really experimented with hotels that made it sound like the era that it was in.
It didn't even sound like past Jasmine projects like she kept up.
Yeah is a classic a classic.
Hell, yeah, absolutely, you know what I watched.
Speaker 3I watched the what was the Jasmine Sullivan?
What was the live series they was doing on YouTube?
Speaker 2It was useful when she was singing with her with the plants in the background.
Speaker 3Is that it that sounds familiar?
I know her came out.
Yeah, and they did that song together.
Speaker 2It was like mad plans in the background.
Speaker 1She had like it was tiny desk, it wasting.
It was her tiny desk love from tiny desk.
Oh you're talking about her tiny desk, yes, okay, but it wasn't in the tiny desk setup that they have now.
Speaker 3Yeah, this I watched this at least once a month, like just to like, you know, you're going to just hear some live music and see somebody Jazzmine Sullivan is on an entirely.
Speaker 2Different level and she's so beautiful too, just full package love her.
Speaker 1I'm curious what Lucky Day does, like what direction he goes after Algorithm because they smoked out.
I love that album so much, but it was a very specific sound, kind of outside of what Lucky had done prior.
I'm curious where he goes sonically form here m because he did he did not take a full shift, but it was it was different, And I'm curious what he wants to.
Speaker 2Do next, are you guys Friday fans?
Speaker 1Yeah, I love Friday.
Speaker 2I'm interested in seeing what he does next to Friday.
Speaker 1Friday's active too, like he'll put out Lucy's and stuff like I really fuck with Friday.
I hate the I wish he'd lock in and just give us just focus for two years on an album, because I think he's capable of putting together an incredible, incredible project.
But you know he's he moves away.
Younger artists need to move now.
You gotta stay active and not just say that it doesn't take away from the quality, but if you if you really just lock in and take some time.
But I don't know, do people care outside of like not this podcast per se, but people like us.
Do people care that much about albums anymore?
Speaker 3I think so?
Speaker 2I think so.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like the casual fan, I'm not saying there's a large group of people, like a huge group of people like us that obsess over bodies of work.
But I mean, is that still if.
Speaker 3You love R and B The thing, If you like really love R and B music, you absolutely love albums like R and B is one of those things like, well, you know, when R and B artists used to make the traditional R and B music, the album was like the story.
It was a whole like movie that they put together.
So I mean I was raised in that type of R and B.
Like the entire project was dope, like from top to bottom, every song you loved, Every song had its own meaning, and you know you just wanted to be a part of that.
But now you know, you got R and B artists that put a song out in January.
They'll put a song out and then they won't put out an another song until like August, and you're like, yo, bro, I don't even know what to like.
You're gonna give us another single the end of the year and then next year give us the full like I don't.
So it's like now I'm not really attached to a full project because you're not giving me the full project.
You're giving me a song here, let's see what it does.
Then you give me another song five months later.
It's like I don't really want to with the where's the album at give the whole project.
Speaker 4Which they need to stop doing too, because it's not that single is not going to be a measure of how the album is going to do or how people are going to perceive the album.
I think that if you give us a good album, people care about your albums.
If you give us a good album, people will care about your albums.
But if you don't, then that's fine.
People won't care.
But what you specialize in people will care about.
If you're a good featured artist, people will always care about your features.
Speaker 2They'll run to it.
But you have to show us our specialty before we can know what we want from you.
Speaker 3Give us the entree.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I mean I don't like I guess, for example, an artist like Coco Jones who puts together great bodies work.
Do you think the labels in her ears saying focus on singles or focus on take your time like disappear and give us a body of work.
Speaker 4I don't think they're saying let her disappear.
I think they're saying, focused on the album.
But why you focus it on the album?
Give us what you whatever you got over there in that lunchbox.
Let me get a piece of that until dinner's done.
Speaker 1Like yeah, but even like to multiple too, because I feel you that it does suck when someone puts out a single, five months past single, and then the album's next year.
Should I've done that?
I a lot of times the label will be like, yo, chill, I know you're ready to go, but we need to work this single's working a little bit, let us work it more.
And then five months past and it's like, well, my fans are asking for music, and like, all right, we'll give another one.
Then we'll work that single, and now you're on a whole year and a half like trajectory of album cycle.
And it makes it disconnects from the core fan base at that point because like, what's going on, You're just thrown out records.
Yeah, but that's usually the label saying we need to work this record, let's get our ry on this and try to build some type of buzz for the project.
That's why you get songs that are two years old that are on albums that come out later, which and I.
Speaker 3Skipped, like I'm even on the summer album like Heart of a Woman.
I skipped that immediately.
Speaker 1Why I don't want it?
Speaker 2We had tired of it.
He' sired of it.
Speaker 3Okay, we've had it for months, you know what I'm saying.
It's like fair okay, fair good.
We then with the double disto I hear you.
There's there's so much more on the song, but it's like, I'm not going to I've been listening to that for When did the Heart of a.
Speaker 2Woman come out for a very long so damn near a year ago?
Speaker 1Yeah, no, it was the top of this year.
Speaker 2We almost at the top of next year, that's know.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying.
I just feel like I've been listening to Heart of a Woman for months, That's know what I'm saying.
It came out Nah, No, what's October October twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, god damn more than a very long time.
Speaker 3Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying.
It's like I don't want to hear that.
Yeah, a good song, but it's like, yeah, I'm at God girl now you know what I'm saying.
That's why, man, let me get to that, Like I'm not really let me get the one hundred hard break not really with woman no more.
Speaker 1But as far as album cycles, I'm looking forward hopefully twenty twenty six we had Sizza.
I'm just looking at my album list from like twenty twenty two of people that didn't put anything out.
I know Robert Glasper's put out a bunch.
I'd love Black Radio four to come out in twenty twenty six.
Amber Mark, I love.
I hope she puts something out.
Ariy Lennox is already putting records out now, so I assume she'll be dropping first or second quarter.
She's not on Dreams on twenty twenty six.
No, Alex Ozley has been active, but I would love for her and Jack to get back and give us an album in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3Hey, please do, Alex, please please, You and Jack gotta get do.
Give us something, give us, give us a little six pack of something.
Speaker 1Yeah.
And also we were talking with PJ Morton at the BT Awards.
He now owns Stevie Wonders Farm.
Yes, he has a host set up there.
Yeah, and as a bunch of young artists, I'm excited just to see what he does with his kind of new I mean, I want to say label per se that he's starting over there, but you know he's doing joint projects with rappers, singers.
I'm excited to see what PJ does in twenty twenty six.
And I'm coming out in twenty twenty six.
There you go hey now, so you know, hope hopefully no one comes up.
Speaker 3So it could be just you.
They put a new team to Turn the Project the same day you dropped Tina Turn the Projects.
Speaker 4I would like a little bit longer of an album from Nao.
I know she put out Jupiter at the top of this year, but it's only thirty three minutes eleven songs.
Speaker 3I will want something a little bit longer, yeah from her.
I fuck with that project though, Yeah, that project is great.
Ship Mac Airs.
I always mispronounce his name, but Mac is incredible.
Shout out to to New York.
But yeah, I know, I know we're we're dragging the R and B shit.
I know a lot of our listeners are not R and B heads like us listening.
Speaker 1To Yeah than us for I don't trust nobody that just listening to rap.
No, some people just don't want to hear thirty minutes of just R and B.
Speaker 3Like, actually, problem, got a balance, It's the problem your nervous systems is like, oh, I mean, I agree.
I think you'll just R and get some R and B in your in your in your uh, your diet.
Speaker 1R R and B will make you appreciate how you listen to hip hop, more might be oh, don't don't do that?
Was that wasn't that profound?
That wasn't that profound?
That wasn't that profound?
You didn't.
It really wasn't.
It really wasn't.
But but if you get into the DNA of R and B, that is mostly what all the hip hop samples that you love, like you, you do listen to hip hop differently if you have a love for R and B, because that's really what it is.
Post you know, ninety.
Speaker 3Five, I saw a clip of Jermaine Duprix and he was talking about the greatest, the greatest group ever is New Audition And he's absolutely right.
Did he give criteria?
I'd never be mad at the take what every New Edition being the greatest group?
Every artist that went solo the album went platinum.
Yeah, And when you say that, it's like you can't argue that as great as the Jackson Now what Michael did solo?
Obviously you know what I'm saying.
But but does that make them the greatest group when y'all can all go solo and go platinum?
Speaker 1Well, belt, well, would you consider that so I mean solo per se?
Speaker 3Yeah, there's the three of them.
Yeah, I mean it's still they still broke off from the group, That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, Wait, Ralph platinum.
Wait his solo album is.
Speaker 2Platinum them, but how long it took for it to go plast.
Speaker 1It don't matter.
It's platinum.
Speaker 3Don't know it, don't.
Speaker 2Tweaker went platinum.
Speaker 1By the way, if you think about it, Tweaker and New Edition are the same.
Speaker 2No, I'm just saying, like, like I hear you, but like the Jackson five is the Jackson five.
Speaker 1We talking about the arrow where it was album sales, not streams, and of course the Jackson five kids everything.
I get that, but you still have to put boys to men attach New Edition Like, I mean, I get it, I do get it.
Just saying JD makes a lot of sense with that take.
Yeah, I mean, that's one that I probably wouldn't argue.
You can argue it, but I'm not mad at to take whatsoever.
I mean, I mean just now, but with some of your favorite groups like that would rival.
I mean, but even where jodses DNA starts with them too, Like, yeah, it's tough.
I'm just saying, man, he makes a lot of sense.
And I and I and I always.
Speaker 3I mean, New Edition is one of my favorite groups ever before Jade even says this.
But when you say the greatest group, you're telling R and B.
It's like, damn you would, or you would, you would, you would go to the Jackson five.
People say that's pop whatever whatever, But the greatest group being New Addition, I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1If you go remember remember if there's a pause there, pause it.
Yeah, the Jackson five versus New Edition doesn't even like like remotely compare.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's different.
You got Michael, we know what little Michael did you three here about thirty niggas.
Michael Jackson is about thirty niggas.
But Randy rest in peace.
You know the brothers that pass Tito Jamaine like all, but they didn't they solo albums.
Speaker 1Didn't, didn't didn't do it.
Speaker 2Okay, So hear me out.
Speaker 1It'd be a good versus were Young New Edition versus Jackson five, to be honest, hear me out.
And then that far and then there's that part of.
Speaker 4Every member of Destiny's Child has one platinum.
I'm just saying, if that's what we're saying.
Speaker 1The original like the original Destiny Child or Michelle Kelly and Beyonce Michelle Kelly.
I mean, okay, I get that.
I'm just saying, but all right, Michelle sol album went platinum.
Yeah, she did a gospel Yes.
Speaker 2And she's also on Broadway killing.
Speaker 1Just saying, and not to take anything away from Destiny's Child.
If you go through l Bib Devot, Bobby Brown solo, Ralph tresvent Uh, Johnny like it just it's not close.
It's kind of not even your Listen.
Speaker 3Bobby Brown when he went solo, see y'all too young, that shit hit you.
Bobby Brown's solo career, That shit hit like an Adam Baum.
That nigga, Bobby Brown was everywhere, every award show, every Billboard.
Speaker 1The nigga was in Ghostbusters like this.
Bobby Brown was that nigga.
Speaker 2I'm not I'm not fighting you.
I was just saying, if we bring I just you know, do another no listen.
Speaker 3Destiny's Child obviously is one of the greatest groups for sure.
I mean, yo, what new addition did though, bell bil the one Ny when Belle build the Vote.
Speaker 1Did they thing?
It's like and these niggas rap it was just like they could do no wrong.
I don't want to throw what if in because that doesn't really matter.
Let's deal with what TLC had contracts been what it was, and unfortunately everything that happened with Left Eye, like TLC I think would have branched the way New Addition did and would have went on to be crazy in that regard, like their run was just cut short because of bullshit.
Plus unfortunately Left Our passing.
Speaker 3But we're not gonna knock New Addition because it's happened with TLC.
Personally.
Speaker 1We love I know New Addition is older, but New Addition is Wu tang like they're.
Speaker 3Wu tang yo and were talking about from the early eighties.
They were children with hits early eighties.
Like go back and just do your do your history on New Addition to music.
I know that we got the show that came out and everybody loved that, but like a lot of people still don't know the music of New Addition from the start, not just when they were young men.
I'm talking about when they were little kids.
Go back to that and just listen.
It's incredible to create that they had and there on tour next year, I would love to see New Addition boys to men.
Speaker 2So you're choose a new addition.
Speaker 4I was gonna say, are you choosing a new addition over Boys to Men as a group not their solo careist as a group Boys the Men shadalog over new edition catalog?
Speaker 3Y'all might have to take new addition.
Speaker 1That's tough.
I might have to take new addition because of my I love Boys to Men.
Speaker 3I might have to take.
Speaker 1Because of my age.
Boys to Men was a way bigger part of my life.
But going back to stuff, and I don't know, man like, yeah, I think I have to go new edition, new addition, is it?
Speaker 3I'm telling you?
Speaker 1And it's funny.
I know Boys to Men would say new addition.
Yeah, we don't get Boys to Men without knowing.
Of course you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3But I just like we didn't feel the same way about you know, when the guys went solo and to day thing.
Even though Sean and Wan Yah, you know, they had some some good solo songs and things like that.
But when you talk about what Bobby Brown was able to do, what Johnny Gill was able to do with Ralph Chessvan was able to like it was, it's just no, it's no comparing.
Speaker 4Bro okay, So if I if I do just a quick little verses, real quick, y'all choose for me.
Speaker 2New addition, can you Stand in the rain?
Versus boys the men?
Speaker 4End of the Road?
Speaker 3Can you stand the ring.
Speaker 1Song?
Speaker 2I'm taking?
Speaker 3But but but can you stand the rain?
Is like, come on, man, I'm taking.
End of the Road is a bigger song.
Don't get it twisted like Boomerang soundtrack, what that did for that soundtrack, iconic iconic movie, iconic soundtrack, legendary record.
But can you stand in the rain?
Like if you throw into the road on the party, we had an R and B party throwing End of the Road.
Niggas are like, now this was that ship you throwing?
Can you stand the rain?
Niggas is picking they phones like I gotta call it dog, I'm tripping.
That's just it's just a different type of feel when you hear can you stand?
Speaker 1That's one of those If we were on drink Champs, I would drink.
I don't even know what to pick on.
That End of the Road is probably one of the biggest songs in R and B history.
But can you Stay in the rain?
Is that ship?
Though?
Put the songs that everyone know every lyric.
Speaker 2Did we get to the and start doing that ship?
Speaker 1I don't know, yeah, ah man, I don't know can you stand in the ring?
But when Ralph come in on can you Stand the Rain?
Like I think that match.
Speaker 3Johnny came in and said on a perfect day.
I said this, nigga, Johnny.
They wasn't jacking Johnny joined the group.
They wasn't fucking with him.
They was kind of giving them ship like, yo, you're trying to take Bobby spot that.
And the third when that nigga said I know that I can't tell you.
I said this niggas in Bobby who like this nigga Johnny?
That was it.
Speaker 1Can you Stand the Rain?
I love, I Love.
I sang end of the Road in fucking grade school like at a talent show.
Yeah, that's definitely a go to talent.
So I love you Standing the Rain.
It's kind of a challenge the rain.
Speaker 4Can you Stand the Rain is an old talent show song Okay, round two, Round two.
Speaker 1And they do the choreography to Kings in the Ring You Love You Love?
What's the movie the best do that today?
Speaker 2Best Man Holiday is like such a traumatic movie, but I watch it every Christmas.
Speaker 1So that movie I want this way to being a Christmas must watch, I think.
Speaker 2Is already said a Christmas musch watch for me.
Speaker 3I don't know, I don't know.
We're not putting it.
I mean, it's tough, but that's best Man.
Best Man too is best Man.
Holliday is definitely on the list.
Speaker 4Holiday might be better than the best Man.
Don't shoot me, don't shoot me, don't shoot me.
Best Man Holliday might be better than the best Man.
Speaker 3I ain't gonna I know why really mad at that.
I don't see why you say that.
I get why you say that.
Speaker 1I'm not mad at that take.
Speaker 3I get why you say that.
But it's definitely moving in that realm of like when Christmas coming around.
You gotta watch the first die Hard movie for sure, got to watch Home Alone.
Best Man Holiday might be in there.
Speaker 1Yeah, and the three you just named are so cryptic in Trauma.
It's so funny that their holiday movie like this happened.
Things like really good about these Christmas?
Speaker 3All right?
Speaker 4Second round, Second round, New edition.
If it isn't love boys to men, I'll make love to you, I'll.
Speaker 1Make love to you.
Speaker 2I'll make love to you.
Speaker 3If it isn't love.
Speaker 1That's the age difference.
Speaker 5I think, yeah, yeah, if it is in love, do I feel this way?
It's just a different bot.
It's a weird she stay on my mind.
Speaker 1And then the choreography they need that, y'all don't even y'all.
Speaker 3Y'all just wasn't outside, man, y'all wasn't outside.
Speaker 1We did, we did watch Avon Barksdale teach them the choreography.
Speaker 3But y'all wasn't there.
Man, when John that video is Ralph?
Had you pull up the video?
John Ralph had the pitts that went into the shoe.
Speaker 1I don't think that's a fair.
Speaker 4It was tough with the two groups because New Audition has more up tempo and Boys of Men is more ballad.
Speaker 1Get that you know they don't even tee and Jodicy is more of a versus sonically to me than New Edition and Boice.
Speaker 3Men well versus they would be performing correct.
Speaker 1Oh, then it's over.
But the New Audition wins every round?
What about?
No, that's not what.
Speaker 3I wanted those, my mom, the woking side with the no socks, with the loafers.
Speaker 1I wanted to go outside with.
Speaker 2Those, all right?
Speaker 4All right, up tempo crowd pleasers.
Round three, Let's do new edition.
Mister telephone man, yep, boys to men Motown Philly.
Speaker 1Mister tell mister telephone man.
Speaker 4Yeah, I would have to go, mister Telephonia.
But I love Motown Philly.
I love Motown Philly.
Speaker 1Mister telephone said, hello, can I help you?
Speaker 3Please?
The telephone man ain't ofvering.
Y'all don't even y'all have land lines no more.
Well, I think y'all don't even know what it is to have a landline.
And y'all don't y'all don't know.
Man, y'all don't know.
Speaker 1You weren't trying.
That was actually very close to Ralph impression right there.
If you try that one more time and try to sound like.
Speaker 3Ralph, No, I can't sound like bro Ralph voice is too high, okay.
Speaker 1And that's another thing.
You kind of had it a little bit.
That's another thing.
People don't look at that.
Speaker 3That was whole their whole thing was catered around trying to sound like Jackson five.
Speaker 1Yeah, for sure, Ralph was close.
He wasn't Little Michael.
I ain't gonna come on, We ain't gona getting crazy.
No one's saying that he wasn't Little Michael, but he was close.
He was close.
Candy Rain like he was close.
He was very close.
Speaker 2I'm bend Ney, Damn Yo, you are you are Josh would be the.
Speaker 1Most random songs that that just make it just like Josh Yah, you're out his music team whatsoever.
Speaker 2I'm Benddney.
Speaker 4Boys to Man again.
This is a differ from vibe New Addition.
Cool it now, it's a different vibe.
Yeah, that's not that's just that's just a weird two different vibes.
It's tough.
New Edition Crucial versus Boys to Men.
A song for Mama, New Addition Crucial versus song for Mama.
No, you told me anything and everything me always keep it inside.
You are the driving fortune.
Speaker 3I'm about to call my mama and hold on.
Speaker 1And R and B took that flow and ran with it too.
All right, well marriage.
You also have to add in solo ship because that versus if you're in a like you're playing a bunch of lock ship against against fab like, yeah, let's get Bobby now, let's pull.
Speaker 4Some body ship.
Let's get into Bobby.
I said, as a group alone.
Obviously, if you start, if you allow single songs.
Speaker 1Like if you if you do Bobby against the Boys to my record, doesn't have to be solo.
Speaker 4That's not But again that's why I said to keep it fair.
I'm saying, just group, it's not fair.
Speaker 1That's why we're saying New Addition is is it because poison could beat a bunch of poison that records.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's a fact.
I'm just saying.
Man, JD he got that one right.
When you first hear it, it's like huh.
But then when you start doing we're doing getting into the music, like really, it's a lot of groups that cannot fuck with New Addition.
Okay.
That's why I'm excited that they're going on tour because I think this is gonna help solidify.
Like, Yo, this is the coldest group ever in R and B ever.
Like them, niggas had hits.
They went decades with hits, Like they crossed from the eighties to the nineties to the early two thousands, like.
Speaker 1With hit records.
Yeah, though not even come on you throwing Johnny Ruby the right.
Speaker 2Way my mo, ma mo.
Speaker 3When that came out, when he went solo with that, it was like, nah, these niggas is cheating.
I mean when everybody got a bomb.
The real verses I wanted to do, which I know sounds laughable.
But Young Jackson five verse, Young new Edition, I think new addition is hanging.
Sounds kind of blasphemous.
They hanging just even I don't know if they I don't know if they're gonna win, but I know good versus.
I would pay to see that.
Speaker 1They would, they would hang.
Speaker 3Yeah, But once they start getting into them, them them them deep Jackson five cuts, it's like, yeah, man, just go ahead and leave little Michael alone.
Y'all can't that little Michael was.
Don't leave him alone when he had when he got the fro and he put that cowboy hat on.
Speaker 1I'll never forget the first time boy had over a fro.
Speaker 2Crazy as fuck.
Speaker 3I never forget the first time I saw that on TV.
Like I remember as a as a little kid, seeing Michael Jackson as a little kid, Like I understand how kids now that are born or like ename it with Michael.
It's like it's something about him when you see him on TV as a kid, but you just can't stop looking at him.
Yeah, because kids that are born now, Michael, Michael Jackson, there were ten years probably no longer longer than that he died ship like sixteen years sixteen oh nine.
Speaker 2I don't know why thought I was five you right?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Uh okay, yeah, they'll hang.
But I do take back a lot of much about coming out.
I mean, I want you back as my ship ABC goes out saying I'll be there, like, I don't even know many songs that could beat that.
Yeah, never can say goodbye You're loving you?
John, I want to I want to put where you at your Who's Loving You?
Speaker 5No?
Speaker 1That ain't you want to be where you?
Yeah?
Nah, I'm all right.
Listen, new edition is allowed, young, new addition is allowed on the stage with him, I'll say for sure.
But when Mike game was that with the hat Who's Loving You and the Edge seller Bro Listen, man, y'all don't even.
Speaker 3Understand what this kid in the Black household that look at little Michael look at him?
Speaker 2Mm hmm?
What the fuck you just say?
Speaker 3Yo?
Speaker 1That's how Bruno Mars feel.
Speaker 2Like it's look mall is a name or now Ma's like.
Speaker 1Performance they performances.
I will never forget this, Like this was crazy.
Speaker 4He was perfect.
He was absolutely perfect.
That's a different that's spiritual talent.
That's a different type of you.
Gotta be born.
You were born, God wanted you.
Speaker 1This was a chosen thing.
Yeah, despite all the work Mike put in, no this some ship just lines up that you were just the chosen one for everything.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's different over there, real different.
Speaker 1Yeah, Mike, my uncle.
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Speaker 2But you're gonna go into voicemails actually.
Speaker 3For sure, we have a voicemail from little Michael.
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Speaker 3You've got mail.
Speaker 7Got a question for the pie.
So what was your childhood stereotype?
Because everybody knew those kids that fit something, whether it was the snot nos kid you know five years old, let's not just running down his nose, like, come on.
Speaker 1Now, wipe your nose, bro.
Then you got the rage crier, the.
Speaker 7One that puff and puff as soon as them tears start bron they scream and yell and they ready to fight somebody.
Then you got the little girl, you know, just struggling with them little eight bowl reds in the head.
Speaker 1You know that type of stuff.
Speaker 7Me, I was the cousin that nobody wanted to sleep next to because I pissed into bed.
I appreciate the point where in my family be like little by going there and use the bathroom.
And if you piss on yourself tonight, I'm being your ass.
But anyway, my question is for y'all, what was y'all stereotype?
Speaker 3I mean I stopped peeing the bed pretty young, pretty early, So that wasn't that.
I was never a snotty nosed kid running around with boogers.
It's never that.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 3Maybe I was just was always just I was real talkative.
I was always running my mouth.
Speaker 1It was loud.
Maybe I thought you might have been like the you know, the chill baby, like it's leg up against the wall, like I feel like your whole life.
He was just like, oh no, it's just chilling as a baby like this and that, not as.
Speaker 3A baby like that was like around like eight nine teen years old.
Speaker 4Ma gave me like the flirty baby, you know, the little babies that's always in women's faces, like baby.
Speaker 1Since I got in trouble because I remember, I don't know who it was.
Speaker 3One of my mother's friends came out and she had like this long sun dress on, and like I just kept looking at it, and I went under her dress, like I picked her dress up and like went under her dress and was like just standing there just like looking at her.
Speaker 1But I'll never forget that.
And my mother's like, I don't know what it was like what caused me to It wasn't like a perverted thing.
Speaker 3It was just I was looking at the dress when she was walking in the house, and I remember I just went like this, Little boys do that a lot.
Speaker 2They do that so much.
Speaker 1Word, I wasn't the first.
My my uncle's made me do that at I don't have a memory of it.
They just tell the story my uncles convinced me to do that at a family member's wedding, to go on somebody's dress fries.
Speaker 2Oh, your uncles are terrible.
Speaker 1People are horrible.
I told you guys about the group chat.
Yeah, I don't think.
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3I was just like the I might have been that, if anything, I was that.
Speaker 4It was so funny that he said that because the moment he started talking like the moment he mentioned that, I started laughing because me and my dad were having a long conversation yesterday when we were hanging out, and we literally were talking about the fact that I was the bier, I was the kidnapping.
I bit a hole through my cousin.
Shout out to my cousin Desa.
I bit a hole through my cousin Dasa's lip when she was a kid.
She still has the scar as an adult, and every time she see me, she bring up that damn Scar, I was a bier, and you know it's so crazy.
As an adult, when I get angry, my first instinct I want to bite people.
Granted, because I'm an adult, I have to like control that urge, but when I'm really really upset or hungry, I want to bite somebody.
Speaker 1At your age, now, when was the last time that you had that urge to bite somebody in anger?
Speaker 6I do that.
Speaker 4I wanted to bite you last week.
I literally like, when I get upset, I want to bite people.
I bit I bit my boyfriend, I broke skin, like I'm a bier white people.
Speaker 3That is crazy, you know, that's like a problem, that's really angry.
They were supposed to take.
Speaker 1You to the special class when you were a kid, like and like you got lipon space camp.
Yeah, like biting you was a bite too.
I told the story how I got a kicked out of takecare.
I pushed the kid down the steps and middlem and my mother picked me up, drove me past where my dad worked, just to like threatening scare me, Like when he get home, what did that?
What did what did you you think you learned that from though, because that's like a that has to be a learned thing like kids don't just do that.
Speaker 4I never There was never anybody else around that bit.
My parents didn't bite me.
Speaker 3The kids say, because I mean, you used to identify the kids that would bite us.
They had like the silver caps on their teeth, like the white they guy.
Speaker 1To give vin ears.
It's just from the years of biting.
Yeah, yeah, like a bitter Yeah I was.
I was.
Speaker 2I was the bier kid like I bit other kids.
Speaker 4I have cousins.
My cousins were like.
I had one cousin who was a scratcher like she and her nails from a young kid.
She used her nails used to be so long, and my mother used to used to like, don't fight with her because she was scratched.
Like I would come of scratches on my face.
When we would play fight or real fight, she would scratch me.
Speaker 1That was my sister's go to when we used to fight.
She used to scratch the ship out of me.
Old.
Speaker 3I still got scars on my off for my sisters.
Let me and my sister fight.
Speaker 1When we was kid, My older cousin, Mike, used to bite the top of my head right here.
Speaker 2He is psychopath.
Speaker 1I don't think there's a a worst pain on her to all the youth, because we have a lot of youth to listen to us.
If you want to get back at one of your family members with the most excruciating pain of all time, just lock like right here, just put top of your your jaw right here, bottom right here.
It's the worst pain on all time.
Speaker 2Oh he bitch your soft spot.
Yeah, that's awful.
Speaker 1It hurts so much.
And even like as adults, sometimes he would do it just to fuck with me, like, hey, remember this and remember this is crazy.
Speaker 3It's an adult.
I'm calling the police.
No, first of all, don't around.
Speaker 1Don't and the police would like to talk to you downstairs, like go outside, fucking bite me as it would hurt so much.
Speaker 2Were you one of them kids I used to flip their eyelids inside.
Speaker 3I never did that.
Speaker 1Of course it was Peach.
She's like that was me.
My best friend did that.
Speaker 4I never like like that shit, just like it hurt because they say or when like I used to go cross side my parents, was like your I was gonna get stuck like that and it neared me.
Speaker 1The kids that were able to do that with their eyelids now can open a beer with their teeth.
It's the same person.
You know.
Speaker 3One thing I used to hate and like my cousin used to do it to me every time I saw crack your knuckles.
Speaker 1I never understood how kids used to be sitting in the class.
I did that my whole life.
I still do.
Speaker 3I never understood that the sound, the sound drives me crazy.
The feeling drives me crazy.
Speaker 4When I just went to get a massage recently, the lady when she was massage on my feet, she pulled and cracked my toes.
Speaker 2I kicked her at, don't ever what.
Speaker 1A great feeling.
Speaker 2Don't ever do that.
Speaker 3Toes is tough to crack, but I cracked my I cracked my toes, like when I'm in the crib relaxing, but cracking your hands.
Speaker 2Though, thinking of them all sitting in his crib, because you could just do that.
Speaker 1Shit yourself, like you know what I'm saying, Like, but like doing this in class?
Speaker 6You do?
Speaker 7What do you do?
Speaker 2Hate this sound?
Speaker 1It's bad for you too, Like it does lead to arthritis and ship like you shouldn't do it, and I do that ship all the time.
Yeah it's not And I've read your knuckles does lead to that ship.
Speaker 3But I've read that it's not even your knuckles that's cracked, and it's just like air in between you're like points and ship.
That's just like, yeah, I was never a fan of that.
Speaker 1I could find any I know how to do every every last one?
Speaker 2Wait, Amara got like a is Amara?
Does she fit into a stereotype?
Speaker 1Amara pushes and she started to bite.
She doesn't bite me.
I'm exept for some reason of all of her like bad traits, she doesn't do it.
She says push when she pushes, which I think is like cute, but I tell her people's like you're trying to disciplining your kid and laughing to say, like, don't do that.
She's letting you, Amara, don't do that.
She's letting you know what next move.
She's like, you know I'm about to push you, so like prepare yourself.
Should exchange baby shark for forty eight laws power, Like stop you telling everyone your next move?
A lot of people like that.
She's been biting though, but like not in an aggressive way, but like in a funny way, a little nibble, yeah, like whether her mom shall bite, but not not an aggressive way at all.
Speaker 2Well, you must not taste good.
Speaker 1She's never tried to bite me what her.
Speaker 4Mom risk probably tastes good, like, probably don't want to buy I.
Speaker 1Got the salty one.
Yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 4But forty eight Laws of Power.
You were asking why people like that book so much?
Speaker 3I never understand how people like that.
Speaker 2Have you ever read it?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1I read it before too.
Speaker 3It's just manipulation, Like why do people want to learn how to manipulate?
Speaker 2Well, manipulation gets you very far in life, coming from.
Speaker 1And being solid get your fall in life too.
Speaker 4Being solid, dude, don't get you far in the manipulation.
Being solid gets you blessings.
Manipulation, but that's.
Speaker 3What I want.
I don't want what come up, manipulation?
Show me all the blessed?
Speaker 6I was?
Speaker 1Was it?
During the press run in my mom?
I did a podcast where we talked about forty Laws of Power and I said the exact same thing that you just said that When I was reading it, I was kind of like turned off by it, like this is like this is bad.
Speaker 3You're like when I say this is like I remember going to a girl's house when she had it like on coffee table, and that just was like I was like, I was like, you like that.
Speaker 1She didn't know why I was asking, but I knew why I was asking.
Speaker 3She was like, I love that book.
I was just like, you'll never.
Speaker 1See me again.
Speaker 4Well, see, I don't think that that's fair though, because I think that, Well, now I feel bad because when I was reading forty eight Laws of.
Speaker 2Power, I was like, oh, I already know all that shit.
Speaker 4But with forty eight Laws of Power, it depends on where you apply it, because there's some places that you shouldn't apply manipulation.
Granted, we manipulate in every area of our lives.
No one is above manipulation, whether you're trying to do it intentionally or not.
But I think it was originally well maybe it's not originally, but I know a lot of people use it for business, for negotiation purpose.
Speaker 2For sure, and that makes sense.
Speaker 1You have to be like that for sure.
But a lot of that book is really based on your relationships with people.
Yeah, it can be, it can be put into business.
Speaker 3For I read that, sh I was like, now I see why.
I was never as like I got the way When it was like forty of Power, I was just like.
Speaker 1Works I read.
I was like, read, Unfortunately it does work.
Speaker 4It studies the way that people are and how they react to certain things, and you can make people do what you want them to do and react the way you want them to react in certain situations if you pay attention to if you master the power of manipulation.
The artist Seduction I read is very very well, very good as well.
I read that as a younger woman.
I'm reading again as a older woman.
Speaker 1But I haven't read that, But I do understand books like forty Laws of Power and uh, everything that Machiavelli wrote is popular in prisons because you're in an environment where manipulation may be survival wore.
Yeah, Like I get that in certain environments people are in.
But yeah, if you're reading that just to manipulate the people around you, that's a that's a deeper, darker thing that you need to like probably deal with.
But yeah, I forgot what podcast it was, but I had the same thought.
I was like, why did everyone love this?
This is never really that.
Speaker 3I never understood how people loved that book.
That's just like, look at people a little diferent, like forty Loads of Power.
I'll be like, no, not to ever watch that, nigga, watch.
Speaker 1It really, you know, it's actually, you know, it's a really good book, fifty Laws of Power by fifty cent and it's not really about manipulation.
It's just how to move in business and the examples that he used throughout his career.
Fifty Laws of Power is a really really good book that I would suggest people.
I mean the audiobook is great too.
It's fifty just talking to you, so it's funny.
Speaker 3Oh now that okay, that's different.
I could definitely shit and listen to fifty just read.
Speaker 1No, but it's super important.
It's not like it's a very serious book.
It's really a good business type man.
But it's fifty talking like how he's talking and raising Kanaan.
Sometimes it slips in.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4There's not many books that I will say change my life, like self help books, but the Art of Science, Art and Science of Respect by Jay Prince changed my life.
Speaker 1I remember shout out to jazz Fly, yeah, rest and pieces of jazz Fly.
Speaker 4Just to summarize real quick a chapter he had where he was like, you know, to reach my goals, I wrote them down, and everything I did from then on or everything I did in my day to day I had to ask myself the question of is does this contribute to my goal?
Speaker 2If not, I needed I did.
I needed to not be doing it.
Speaker 4And that was from the moment I opened my eyes to the moment I closed them, every single move I made.
Speaker 2Does this contribute to my goals?
If not, then I don't need to be doing this.
It's a waste of my time.
Speaker 4Which can be a little intense, right, But some people work well with intents, so I don't know.
Speaker 2I really liked that book.
Speaker 1It was.
Speaker 2It was really good.
No matter how you feel about Jay Prince, I do think it's one worth three.
Speaker 1He's sitting right next to us.
Speaker 2He's so disrespectful.
Speaker 1What did I do?
Not all black people look like?
Worry?
Oh, I know, I agree with you, but you and j Prince look like don't like what I like?
I do.
I hear what you're saying, but nah.
I'm actually currently reading the book Rework, which focuses on the way in which you're productive, where overworking sometimes can lead to less production.
It's called Rework.
It's it's it's really interesting.
I just started it, so I can't give a full review, but I've enjoyed it so far.
But it does.
It focuses on how you structure your work schedule, and that overworking is is probably a bad idea when it comes to being productive more or less.
Speaker 2Okay, Mal, are you currently reading anything?
You should we should start a book club.
Speaker 4I'm currently reading, Like I told you guys earlier, I'm currently reading All about Love by belt Hooks, which is a study of love, but in an intellectual way, not an emotional way.
And she talks a lot about how a lot of us idea a lot of our ideas of love come from what our parents showed us.
But a lot of what our parents showed us is again care and affection but not love is a verb because love and abuse can can't coexist, love and negligence can't coexist.
So it's just a way to read look at love because a lot of us want we all wanted, but it's not studied the way other things that we all want is studied.
Speaker 1So I would be down to do a podcast like book club with the listeners.
Not so much that I would say we have to like do the book club powows where we all going to circle and say what it meant to us, but just to keep everybody honest of chapters that we need to read by this this time.
I wouldn't be mad at that, because that's why I like the fitness shit of like with groups of people.
Fuck the camaraderie.
Just keep me honest, like I'm yeah, so I would be down to do that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I just feel like saying that.
Speaker 6I don't know.
Speaker 3Did you see?
Speaker 1Do you know where we're at from?
I fell down a rabbit.
It's funny.
Speaker 3When I was just dying left, I was Internet.
Speaker 1I thought you're about to say a different word.
It's so confused.
Speaker 4No, it's a This girl did a few a fool review and I want to give her I want to give her name because she's a creator and she's funny at ship.
She's also a really good singer.
She did a food review and she was eating something.
Speaker 2And she ate it and she was like, but.
Speaker 1This is this ship is crazy.
Speaker 2Let me see if I can find it.
Speaker 1She would do it on Patreon.
I'm down to do this on Patreon.
Speaker 2Hubbard shout out to Ariana.
Speaker 1Patreon, doctor Forward, slash new or mall.
We will be breaking down the term right away.
Appreciate you guys.
We'll be back soon.
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