The volume.

I saw a clip of Jermaine Duprie and he was talking about the greatest, the greatest group ever is new addition mm hmm, and he's absolutely right.

Did he give criteria?

I'd never be mad at the take what every new Edition being the greatest group?

Every artist that went solo the album went platinum.

Yeah, and when you say that, it's like you can't argue that as great as the Jackson Now what Michael did solo?

Obviously you know what I'm saying.

But but does that make them the greatest group when y'all can all go solo and go platinum?

Well, belt would you consider that?

So I mean solo, Yeah, there's the three of them.

Yeah, I mean it's still they still broke off from the group.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, Wait, Ralph platinum.

Wait his solo album is platinum.

But how long it took for it to go plast It.

Don't matter, it's platinum't know it don't Tweaker went platinum.

By the way, if you think about to tweet, your new Edition are the same.

No, I'm just saying, like, like I hear you, but like the Jackson five is the Jackson were.

Talking about the Arrow where it was album sales not streams, and.

Of course the Jackson five kids everything.

I get that, but you still have to put boys to men attach New Audition like I mean, I get it, I do get it, just saying.

JD makes a lot of sense with that take.

Yeah, I mean, that's one that I probably wouldn't argue.

You can argue it, but I'm not mad at to take whatsoever.

I mean, I mean just now, but with some of your favorite groups like that would rival.

I mean but even where jodses DNA starts with them too, Like yeah, it's tough.

I'm just saying, man, he makes a lot of sense.

And I and I and I always I mean, New Addition is one of my favorite groups ever before JD even says this.

But when you say the greatatest group you're telling R and B, it's like, damn you would or you would, you would, you would go to the Jackson five.

People say that's pop whatever whatever, But the greatest group being New Addition, I'm not mad at that.

If you go remember remember if there's a pause there pause it.

Yeah, the Jackson five versus New Edition doesn't even like like remotely compare Yeah, it's different.

You got Michael.

We know what Little Michael did.

Though.

Three here about thirty niggas.

Michael Jackson is about thirty niggas.

But Randy rest in peace.

You know the brothers that past, Tito Jamaine like all, but they didn't they solo albums, didn't didn't didn't do it.

Okay, so hear me out.

It'd be a good versus We're young new edition versus Jackson five.

To be honest, hear me out.

And then that, and then there's that part of every member of Destiny's Child has one platinum.

I'm just saying, if that's what we're saying.

The original, like the original Destiny Child or Michelle Kelly and Beyonce Michelle Kelly, I mean, okay, I get that.

I'm just saying, but all.

Right, Michelle sol album went platinum.

Yeah, she did a gospeler, yes, and she's also on Broadway killing just saying.

And not to take anything away from Destiny's Child.

If you go through l Bib, Devo, Bobby Brown solo, Ralph tresvent Uh, Johnny like it just it's not close.

It's kind of not even your listen.

Bobby Brown when he went solo.

See y'all too young to that shit hit you.

Bobby Brown's solo career.

That shit hit like an Adam Baum.

That nigga.

Bobby Brown was everywhere, every award show, every Billboard.

The nigga was in Ghostbusters like this.

Bobby Brown was that nigga.

I'm not I'm not fighting you.

I was just saying, if we bring it, I just you know, do another equation.

No listen.

Destiny's Child obviously is one of the greatest groups for sure.

I mean, yo, what New Addition did though, Mabel Bill doing when they went Bell Devote, did they thing It's like and these niggas rap It was just like they could do no wrong.

I don't want to throw what if in because that doesn't really matter.

Let's deal with with TLC.

Had contracts been what it was, and unfortunately everything that happened with Left Eye like TLC, I think would have branched the way New Addition did and would have went on to be crazy in that regard, like their run was just cut short because of bullshit plus unfortunately left eye passing.

But we're not gonna knock New Addition because it's happened with TLC.

Personally we love I know.

New Addition is older, but New Addition is Wu tang like they're Wu tang.

Yo and we're talking about from the early eighties.

They were children with hits early eighties, like, go back and just do you do your history on New Addition to music.

I know that we got the show that came out and everybody loved that, but like a lot of people still don't know the music of New Addition from the start, not just when they were young men.

I'm talking about when they were little kids.

Go back to that and just listen.

It's incredible to create that they had and there on tour next year.

I would love this new addition Boys to Men.

So you choose a new addition?

I was gonna say, are you choosing a new addition over Boys to Men as a group, not their solo chorist as a group Boys the Men shatalog over new edition catalog?

Y'all might have to take new addition.

That's tough.

I might have to take new addition because of my I love Boys to Men.

I might have to take because of my age.

Boys to Men was a way bigger part of my life.

But going back to stuff and I don't know, man, like, yeah, I think I.

Have to go new edition.

New addition is it?

I'm telling you?

And it's funny.

I know Boys to Men would say new edition.

Yeah, we don't get boys to men without knowing, of course you know what I'm saying.

But I just like we didn't feel the same way about you know, when the guys went solo and to day thing.

Even though Sean and Wan, yeah, you know they had some some good solo songs and things like that.

But when you talk about what Bobby Brown was able to do, what Johnny Gill was able to do with Ralph Chessvan was able to like it was, it's just no, it's no comparing bro Okay.

So if I if I do just a quick little verses real quick, y'all choose for me new addition.

Can you stand in the rain versus Boys the Men?

End of the Road?

Can you stand the ring song I'm taking of the run, but but but can you stand the rain?

Is like, come on, man, I'm taking End of the Road is a bigger song.

Don't get it twisted like Boomerang soundtrack?

What that did for that soundtrack?

Iconic iconic movie.

Iconic soundtrack legendary record.

But can you Stand in the rain?

Like if you throw into the road on the party, we had an R and B party throwing End of the Road.

Niggas are like, nah, this was that ship you throwing?

Can you stand the rain?

Niggas just picking up their phones like now I gotta call it dog, I'm tripping.

That's just it's just a different type of feel when you hear can you Stand the Ring?

That's one of those.

If we were on drink Champs, I would drink.

I don't even know what to pick on.

That End of the Road is probably one of the biggest songs in R and B history.

But can You Stay in the Rain?

Is that ship thought the songs that everyone knows every lyric.

Did he get to the and start doing that ship?

I don't know, Yeah, no, man, I don't know.

Can you Stand in the rain?

But when Ralph come in on can you Stand the Rain?

Like I think that match.

Johnny came in and said on a perfect day, I said this, nigga, Johnny.

They wasn't jacking Johnny when he joined the group.

They wasn't fucking with him.

They was kind of giving them ship Like, yo, you're trying to take Bobby spot that and the third when that nigga said I know that I can't call you.

I said this niggas in Bobby, who like this nigga?

Johnny?

That was it.

Can you Stand the Rain?

I Love?

I Love?

I sang end of the Road in fucking grade school like.

At a talent show.

Yeah, that's definitely a go to talent So I love Staying the Rain is kind of talent.

The ring Can you Stand the Ring as an old talent show song, Okay, round two, round two, and.

They do the choreography to Kings in the Ring?

You Love You Love?

What's the movie the best that today?

Best Man?

Holiday is like such a traumatic movie, but I watch it every Christmas.

That movie I want this way to being a Christmas must watch, I.

Think is already it's a Christmas must watch for me.

I don't know, I don't know.

We're not putting it.

I mean, it's tough, but that's best Man.

Best Man too is best Man Holliday is definitely on the list.

Holiday might be better than the Best Man.

Don't shoot Me, Don't shoot me, Don't shoot me.

Best Man Holliday might be better than the Best.

Man I ain't gonna I know why.

I don't see why you say that.

I get why you say that.

I'm not mad at that take.

I get why you say that.

But it's definitely moving in that realm of like when Christmas coming around, you gotta watch it.

The first die Hard movie for sure, got to watch Home Alone.

Best Man holiday might be in there.

Yeah, and the three you just named are so cryptic in trauma.

It's so funny that their holiday like this happened, like thing is like really good about these Christmas?

Alright?

Second round, Second round, new edition.

If it isn't love boys to men, I'll make love to you.

I'll make love to you.

I'll make love to you.

If it is in love.

That's the age difference, I think.

Yeah, yeah, if it is in love, do I feel this way?

It's just a different bot.

It's a weird she stay on my mind.

And then the choreography they need that.

Y'all don't even y'all y'all just wasn't outside, man, y'all wasn't outside.

We did, we did watch Avon Barksdale teach them the CHOREOGRAPHYVA.

But y'all wasn't there, man.

When John that video is ill Ralph had you pull up the video John Ralph had the picts that went into the shoe.

I don't think that's a fair person.

If it's tough with the two groups, because New Audition has more up tempo, and Boys of Men is more ballad.

Get that you know they don't even tell and Jodicy is more of a versus sonically to me than New Edition and Boys Men.

Well versus they would be performing.

Correct.

Oh, then it's over.

But the new edition wins every round?

What about?

No, that's not what.

I wanted those, my mom, the woking side, with the no socks, with the loafers.

I wanted to go outside with those.

All right, all right, up tempo crowd pleasers.

Round three, let's do New Edition.

Mister telephone man, Yep, Boys to Men, Motown Philly.

Mister tell mister telephone man.

Yeah, I would have to go miss Telephonia.

But I love Motown Philly.

I love Motown Philly.

Mister telephone man, Hello, can I help you please?

The telephone man?

Ain't y'all don't even have land lines?

No more wall.

I think y'all don't don't even know what it is to have a landline.

And y'all don't y'all don't know.

Man, y'all don't know.

You weren't trying.

That was actually very close to Ralph impression right there.

If you try that one more time and try to sound like.

Ralph, no, I can't sound like bro Ralph voice is too high, Okay.

And that's another thing.

You kind of had it a little bit.

That's another thing.

People don't look at that.

That was whole their whole thing was catered around trying to sound like Jackson five.

Yeah, for sure, Ralph was close.

He wasn't little Michael.

I ain't gonna come on, we ain't gona getting crazy.

No one's saying that he wasn't little Michael.

But he was close.

He was close.

Candy Rain like he was close.

He was very close.

I'm bend knee, damn yo you are you are Josh.

It would be the most random songs that that just make it just like h R, you're out his music, tea whatsoever.

I'm Bendney boys to man again.

This is a different vibe, new edition.

Cool it now, it's a different viobe.

Probably, Yeah, that's not that's just that's just a weird two different vibes.

It's tough.

New Edition Crucial versus Boys to Men, A song for Mama.

New Audition Crucial versus song for Mama.

Nah, you told me anything and everything me.

Always keep it inside.

You are the driving fortune.

I'm about to call my mama.

Hold on and R and B took that flow and ran with it too.

All right, Well, Marie, you also have to add in solo ship because that versus if you're in a like playing a bunch of lock ship against against fab like, yeah, let's.

Get Bobby now, let's pull some body ship.

Let's get into Bobby, I said, as a group alone.

Obviously, if you start, if you allow single songs like if you.

If you do Bobby against the Boys to Men record doesn't have to be solo boys.

That's not But again that's why I said to keep it fair.

I'm saying, just it's not fair.

That's why we're saying new addition, is is it?

Yeah?

Because poison could be a bunch of boys and men records.

Yeah, that's the fact.

I'm just saying.

Man JD he he got that one right.

When you first hear it, it's like huh.

But then when you start doing we're doing getting into the music.

Like really, it's a lot of groups that cannot fuck with New Addition.

That's why I'm excited that they're going on to it, because I think this is gonna help solidify.

Like, Yo, this is the coldest group ever in R and B ever.

Like them, niggas had hits.

They went decades with hits, like they crossed from the eighties to the nineties to the early two thousands, like with hit records.

Yeah, not even come on, you're throwing Johnny rub you the right way, my ma.

Man mo.

When that came out, when he went solo with that, it was like, Nah, these niggas are cheating.

I mean, everybody got a bomb the real verses I wanted to do, which I know sounds laughable.

But Young Jackson five Verse, Young New Edition, I think New Addition is hanging.

I know that sounds kind of blasphemous.

They hanging just even I don't know if, I don't know if they're gonna win, but Thorn Love, I know good versus.

I would pay to see.

That they would.

They would hang.

Yeah, But once they start.

Getting into them, them them Deep Jackson five cuts, It's.

Like, yeah, man, just go ahead and leave Little Michael alone.

Y'all can't that little Michael was don't leave him alone when he had when he got the fro and he put that cowboy hat on.

I'll never forget the.

First time my boy had over a fro, crazy as fuck.

I can never forget the first time I saw that on TV.

Like I remember as a as a little kid, seeing Michael Jackson as a little kid, Like I understand how kids now that are born or like ename it with Michael.

It's like it's something about him when you see him on TV as a kid, but you just can't stop looking at him.

Yeah, because kids that are born now, Michael, Michael Jackson, mean, there were ten years, probably no longer longer than that he died ship, like sixteen years, sixteen oh.

Nine, I don't know.

I thought it was five.

You're right he got oh nine.

Yeah, uh okay, Yeah, they'll hang.

But I do take back a lot of it.

Yeah, little Michael too much coming out.

I mean, I want you back.

As my ship ABC goes out saying I'll be there, like, I don't even know many songs that could beat that.

Yeah, never can say goodbye.

You're a loving you, John.

I want to I want to put where you are you, Who's loving you?

I want to be where you Yeah, no, I'm all right.

Listen.

New edition is allowed, young new addition is allowed on the stage with him, for sure.

But when Mike game was that with the hat Who's Loving You and the edge seller bro Listen, man, y'all don't even understand what this kid in the black household that look at little Michael look at him?

Mm hmm?

What the fuck you just say?

Yeah, that's how Bruno Marris feels like.

It's may look mall is a name or now Ma's.

Like I wish performance ary performances.

I will never forget this, Like this was crazy.

He was perfect.

He was absolutely perfect.

That's a different that's spiritual talent.

That's a different type of you.

Gotta be born.

You were born.

God wanted you.

This was a chosen thing.

Yeah, despite all the work might put in, nah this some shiit just lines up that you were just the chosen one for everything.

Yeah, what you're listening to today?

A busy week.

I listened to Summer.

Walker shout after Summer Walker finally over It, Yes, sir, I don't know where I put that into over It trilogy too.

Soon to even put it.

But I'm on the side that Summer Walker is three for three, and I don't that's a tough thing to say for artists, Like I think Summer's been around long enough that we can start to have that conversation because going three for three the way she has should be noted.

I like the record with her Lotto do Go Girl, Okay on that right and record Yo?

All right?

So that was the like the record.

Of course, you know, online's always being mixed reviews no matter what the artist is for the most part.

Yeah, that was really like the only real negative critiques I was seeing was Go Girl.

But that's one of my favorite records off the first few listens.

Killing that online.

Yeah, I like that record.

It's doing well on TikTok, but like you know, Twitter, Instagram and all that, people were saying that was the one they didn't like.

It gives you either that's a song that you're either going to absolutely love or absolutely hate.

There's no in between because it's a different type of song.

I mean, I do, I do have a take on it, though, what's your take?

Sweetie?

I think Summer Walker washed two amazing rappers said she had the best verse to me, I'm not a lot of and Doje went off, but I was not shocked because we know someone has a great pen, but I didn't know she was going to clean up.

We had Bryson here a couple of months ago.

Bryson, you and someone just need to give it the project, yeah, because they don't miss.

Whenever they are featured on each other's songs, they don't they don't miss.

So we need we need to summon Walker Bryce.

Until the album, they were just on tour with with Chris Hopefully.

You know, there was some conversations about doing some more records together because when them two do a record, it's it's hard not to.

Like it without That was one of my favorite places in the album, going from the Situationships to to give Me a Reason and listen, man, she down Situationships.

Now one eight hundred heartbreak.

It's probably the best.

Would you like to expound on it?

Baby?

Why did that song speak?

Because Anderson Pott went that might be first of the year that he went crazy outside of twenty one Saba, We'll getting to twenty one savage, cause twenty one Savage that if you fuck my friends, I'm gonna give you a stylis twins and I'm gonna bite that bitch that do your makeup of bens.

Cock it cock it he ate.

He went crazy.

When the record started.

I was like, all right, this is an interesting sound to put Anderson on.

And then the beat switched up and the base came in, and then Anderson just got off like that.

That might be one of my favorite verses of the year.

That record is super far and going down.

Josh, he gave her like a sixty four.

Yeah, he went crazy.

Keep going while he's looking for that.

I am now realizing how many words have.

You?

Never I was the city?

Why do I keep picking things that have Yeah?

Yeah, you never know today how many essays you got to say, Oh my god, my teeth are killing me.

Yeah, you're a soldier for having him just done this morning and getting on mic like that.

Yeah.

I was supposed to do it a Friday, but I could not get Amara out of the house on time, so I moved it.

And I just wanted to get the shit over with before holiday started.

But they assured me they third me sufferings.

Yo, could we get a spit garf for this MICU because we're gonna need it he about to fuck that mic.

Should we bring up some some tongue twisters some examples with says, yeah, give it a go, it, give it a go, Roy, let me get you read let's go When Patpoos does the sical slaughter.

No, we can't do that.

I wouldn't even put you through that type of torture today.

I wouldn't do that to you.

Well yeah again while he looks for that.

Uh.

The Situationship record, which we've talked about on this pod so much, those like three month relationships where they're the best you just in love like she said that.

She said her Situationship Ecstasy has nothing on him, like not even your man.

I like the album.

I gotta live with it more, though I was so I was so caught up on a wild a project that I didn't really like give the some of Walker album as much attention that I usually do.

But I'm definitely gonna go back to it tonight.

It's different, it's a different sound for her.

It's different for multiple reasons.

I would say, out of the three, it will be number three for me, which doesn't mean that it's not good.

It's still good.

It's just that I prefer the other two a little bit more, just because I think I prefer production.

I want a little bit more, and I prefer the vulnerability on another one a little bit more.

But this is this is good.

She is definitely three for three.

Yeah.

The other two are a little bit more concise too, so this one's gonna take a while to fully digest.

I'm with you, though, Like the production is good on here, but it's tough to beat the summer London.

Yeah, dull like when.

They were together, and especially when they hated each other, like that duo is kind of unmatched.

It worked, No, it worked, It definitely worked.

But I mean it's it's still great production on it.

When I first saw the track list on Friday, I was a little nervous because usually like heavy feature albums are not my personal taste.

Doesn't really feel super feature.

Heavery like, you still get a majority summer on it.

Yeah, they're well placed, they make sense, But I was nervous and I was like, oh fuck, this is a lot of features, but I think they nailed each one.

Rob dreamrit scientists.

I mean, Demari's a song of the year for you or.

What you kyo?

I could have robbed you Hello fifty sample on the.

Niggas be so easy, niggas be going.

I could have put that bitch on my payroll and had you robbed because you're so easy going.

Where dom I soul?

You easy as fuck?

You feel like you want to expound a little more, baby, then tell us why you feel such a personal connection to that message.

No, I didn't say it was personal.

I'm just saying we've all been there and No.

Definitely definitely niggas that you could set up with a bad bitch to get robbed because they just easy.

They're going shit is sad, think highly of yourself.

They just be having them at the crib, Like, just come on over.

Baby, I can't fuck with the mass.

Just leave me up.

I don't believe you at the marriage is really crazy, all right, my bad baby, I'm sorry.

Yeah, but a lot of niggas be going.

Sorry, y'all you've been easy before.

It's definitely a bitch that could have set you up to get ribbed.

Robbed da, I mean it would It would have been a bad night for somebody.

But yeah, I'm sure it was some nice white But but see the thing about me is I feel when I'm slipping like I'll be in the middle of the slip like I'm out of here.

I'm in here butt naked in the middle of her house like this nigga blowing her lim I'm out of here, Like you feel.

Some niggas just be willing nearly laid up.

They Yeah, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to really catch me slipping.

But absolutely, I've been in situations with women that definitely was not probably like safe.

And if you know, she was trying to have something happened to me, it could have happened.

Man, something would have happened to him too, but something would have happened to me obviously.

But yeah, definitely it was.

The thing is I get out of that ship as soon as I feel it, like, no, I'm bugging, I'm out of there.

Yeah.

When I think I told you the time that del say wasn't a setup per se.

But I went to a woman's apartment that went to Dell State and her boyfriend called and he was she was adding a local like not somebody that was at them.

Yeah, he was right, he was down the block.

Yeah, said what the fuck you at the screen?

She said, he's he's not gonna come down.

I said, I'm getting the fuck out of here, like I never.

Want Why would girls be like, don't worry about him.

No, I'm worried about him, like you know you like but yeah, he sounds like he's crazy about you.

And I'm in your house naked with the with the fridge door open, like yeah, like getting the fun out of here.

I'm not here, which I don't have.

I don't have a lot of family in Delaware to help me out in this situation.

I'm just gonna run.

The fuck out of this apartment.

Critique wise, I wish Baby with Chris Brown was was longer, Like just when I felt like it was ready to cook, it was over.

That record could have been like five minutes to me.

But I love that song.

I don't know.

I'm excited to live with this one.

I know Demarus is gonna be wilding at the hookah spot to a Baller, which one was Baller.

She's gonna have the windows open in the car in the winter.

I wasn't a fan of Baller really, Okay, what did he like about it?

I don't know.

It just wasn't It was cool, but it wasn't like for me, but it was it was cool.

It's a good song.

Now, Don't make Me do it?

Don't make Me do it?

Yeah, that one.

You care to talk about why that one?

Want to say that?

Like that one specifically?

You can't even talk about that one specifically when a lyric breakdown do it?

But nah, No, it's it's a good album overall.

No, it's really good to the with the Beyonce sample.

Yeah, No, it was really.

Really good Chris Brown.

They had a there was Mariah sample on that right.

If I'm not I think so.

Yeah, Always be my baby, always baby, my baby sample stitch me Up.

The girls tend to love, are seeming of love stitch me Up, which is basically just like fix me, heal me, that sort of thing you like.

I told Cardy Stephone was ahead of his time with to stitch Me Up.

He told Cardy, let me.

Fix you, let me hear you.

Did you see the wile A clip?

I believe it was Breakfast Club right.

He was talking to Charlotte Magne and he said that he was talking to Cole and Kendrick about you know, he has a child on the way and talked about some of his problems and just vent venting to the homies and then the next fucking day, Jay Cole put out false profece.

Mm hmm, can we play the clip?

I remember I called Kendrick around that time.

We talked about like like we just had that was at that time, and I remember like like getting ready to have my child, I talked to Cold.

That was probably only two times I really leaned on the industry person, you know.

So.

But the crazy thing is falset prophets came up the next day.

I'll post came out this very next day after.

But I ain't take it, you know what I'm saying.

But I think the record was driving nah, But I mean he.

Said it's not really about me.

But I mean, all I'm saying is that that's that's my I love him, that's my brother.

Whatever.

I just I mean, I I think I kind of.

Halted telling any industry for anything too deep like around that time, like I just like, you know what, I don't even I don't even want to think that they're using this, like you know what I'm saying, So.

Nigga, what what didn't you understand?

It sounds like he was getting cut off.

He's like saying, sorry, I ain't want to you know say, mall, say what you're saying.

That was Nah, that's what I'm saying.

You say what you're saying that was whack.

And as a result of that, I don't really be talking to these rat niggas because I don't know if they're using like personal conversations for content.

And that's what he was saying, but that's what he that's what he wanted to say, but that ain't what he said.

He said it though, like not as I don't.

He said it saying like that.

No, no, no other people because he used against me.

But that's the thing in this industry because while A is a nice guy by nature, very nice guy, and then when you find out that everybody ain't nice and everybody ain't the way you are, then you get on these platforms and you don't want to say it because you don't want to seem like you're talking about nobody and not respect that about Wyla.

But sometimes you got to be like yo, listen, man, Homie did some wax shit.

And as a result of that, I don't really be opening up to rappers and trying to get too cool with these niggas because they move funny.

Just say that shit, but I'm not about first, so I'm not gonna let you do that because the timeline is is a little little off with this, and it definitely was resolved.

And I also think j Cole, out of all the rappers, is probably just as equally nice as a human being as l as Cole No knocking.

I'm just saying while A was sounding like he wanted to say something, at the same time he didn't want to say nothing.

Now if in fact, if in fact they had that conversation on let's say the first and then false profits dropped on the second, I have to give so much credit to Cole felt in the creative team.

The fact that you could write that record and make Jamaica Avenue into Willie Wanka chocolate factory video.

Wow, what a turnover to put it out.

But I'm sure he's probably paraphrase.

I'm sure it came out shortly after.

But then while A put out Groundhog's Day, which I think is one of the more underrated I don't think it's a diss more underrated responses like it still has replay value to me, I still love groundhog Day.

And then they went to the I think it was a North Carolina game the next day, they were sitting courts out together like they resolved the entire thing.

Yeah, and I don't think I'm not saying it's beef.

It's like, you know, what's wrap.

You can have a little friendly like fire, like a friendly little like back and forth with dudes that you're really cool with.

So, just to clarify, y'all are telling me that y'all think false prophets.

It's about wi.

Yeah, I think one versus about Kanye and one verse about while A.

What was the first version I'm trying to remember.

Maybe d I'm just speaking to in this in this clip that y'all just showed me while seemed like he wanted to say something but that he didn't want to because it's resolved.

And no, I get it, I understand it.

But then don't speak on it.

That's what I'm saying.

Wait, why not?

You can still speak about some shit.

The first verse being about Kanye makes sense, right?

Second verse is the one that you will say would be about wallet.

Yeah, okay, absolutely, which I mean we we've covered when it came out.

Obviously, that was a big week on Twitter of what Who's who?

Were the verses about but yeah, and if if Wally had a conversation with Cole, who he was on tour with at the beginning of his career, slept in the same tour bus, somebody that he probably confide with, like not just some random stranger that also raps, Like, I'm pretty sure they had spent a lot of time together in a real way.

Yeah, when they were on I think it was a blueprint that three one whatever.

There's a footage of them in Denny's, like they they lived together for a long time, they grew up together, like that was their their college years more or less.

Yeah, I'm sure he said a lot of similar things to him in this conversation, and Cole, having one of the greatest pens ever, easily just put that on in rhyme for him and while he was like, Yo, what the fuck, I just had a conversation with you about all these talking points.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

I don't think what Cole did was wrong.

Like, you know, sometimes you draw inspiration from real life things, And if you had a conversation with the close front of yours and it inspired you to write a verse like I like that.

I respect that.

I'm just saying, you know, with Wila, because wile A is you know, we always give him as flowers.

We always say that he needs to be talked about more, and you know, but in this clip, it just seemed like he had something on his mind, on his heart that he wanted to say, but then he didn't want to say something that could be taken the wrong way and things like that, like that's all I'm speaking to is just like he sounded like he had something he wanted to say, but at the same time he held back and was like, nah, I don't want to say that.

Yeah, I mean, I guess this does go back to conversations we've had just over the years.

If if I was Wiale when this came out, I would I would feel a way now outside looking and thinking what I know wile and Cole's relationship was at that time and things I say to you you put on wax not.

I don't think this is a dys but it's like, damn, you put our conversation in a song and didn't tell me.

Now if cold have been like yo tomorrow, if you're mad, I totally understand it.

Here's the song.

Just want to give you a heads up.

I would respect that more, but I don't know if it's owed the older I've gotten, which we've talked about multiple times friends even in the music industry that I consider friends not associates.

I still don't put as much stake into it as I used to, of thinking that they would owe me anything the way friends maybe you grew up with or don't work with do so that happens.

So I see what Wile is saying now of like, yeah, you can still talk about feel a way and it's resolved and him and Cole are cool.

They shift, they put out a number one record together with the Vibrant Thing sample like, but I'm still looking at it, like now I know how to move with people.

I even thought were friends in the industry per se.

Yeah, I'm not just move or I don't have expectations now if I say something, it could be used against me, and that's in the quarter of hip hop.

In the court of hip hop, yes for sure.

But okay, not cold Caping.

I swear because that needs to be a friend.

Is a classic record, not Cole.

I didn't even see what you got.

On the cardigan.

Okay, that was a cape.

I don't know if I'm Wila, which I've never been wil A.

I've never been famous and talented and all of these cool things.

So I know, I don't know if I'm Wila if I hear that verse, if I'm offended, I don't, or if I feel like I was betrayed.

You see what I'm saying.

I don't know if I feel that way, because honestly, that verse, the first verse can very obviously be set up to be about Kanye, right, but the second verse if him and Yla weren't friends, nobody would I don't think people would assume that that verse was about Wila because that fits.

That's about so many rappers that are doing well but maybe not as well as they feel like they should be doing, or comparing, you know, drawing comparisons to their peers or anything like that.

You can make that verse about so many people in the music industry.

So that's what I'm like that And even even so, even if I did have that conversation with my friend, I don't know if that's the same thing that my friend told me in private, if it's the same the advice that you give in the verse, If it's the same advice that my friend gave me in private.

I don't know if I feel offended or if I feel like I should have kept that to myself.

For example, Roy, you've used You've sent me lyrics that were like yo, I draw I drew inspiration from.

You and Homie.

Remember, I can't be mad at you like you betrayed me because I was honest about my love life and you used it in a song.

Like that's even if you never sent it to me beforehand.

If I heard that, I'm like, hey, that's about yeah.

But that was very much more open ended than how direct R and B opening R and B lyrics are really for interpretation, Like they're not as specific as what these rap verses are.

And the way Cole masterfully put this together, it made you want to guess who exactly he was talking about the lyrics I sent you.

Nobody would sit there and go like, well, who exactly is this about with all the clues that are in there.

But here here's the thing where I'm a hypocrite.

In this entire conversation.

I've talked about personal stuff on this podcast, whether it be significant others, whether it be my parents, whether it be my family members, and I never asked for permission, never even thought to give them a heads up.

Hey, I'm talking about this tomorrow.

It's going out.

So I'm a hypocrite and.

We've got that way.

We've all done that.

So it's not like I don't understand what Cole did.

I've done it way more than Cole has, so I get it.

But I understand why significant others, my family, my parents have felt away the same way.

I think while they would too.

And on top of that, now everybody's in my mentions and I already told you some of my anxieties with this entire thing, and that very thing that you took is now adding to my anxiety with all the fans.

In my mentions talking about the ship.

So I get it, and I but I think while they handled if, I was talking about the past, because they were reminiscing in that Breakfast Club interview about kind of those four of Cole, Drake, Kendrick, wile A and how they all started together.

So talking about the ups and downs, I don't think it's a bad thing.

And I'm sure while it is past the ship, but he probably is, like I'm not I'm keeping some ship to myself no matter who I think is a close association in the industry with stuff.

No friends in the industry, my brothers and my brothers.

King of meat.

That's the fact.

But even then, like I don't even think anything that said.

Jams, y'all just jamming.

Listen to what niggas be telling you.

I'm sorry, I didn't know what I was fine, you fools listening to music and just skimming through it.

I mean, I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to cut you in the road.

I went, I went, I was a young angel, but these niggas turned me evil.

That villain origin story is gonna be classic, I'm telling y'all, right now, just that VILLAINOI.

We're gonna look back and like that's the moment it happened.

I'm telling y'all.

But anyway, Yeah, while a shot out the while a great album, I'm still bumping that, still listening to that.

Like it more and more every listen.

I do like the Summer Walker album too, So you've finally given it some.

Yeah, I've been spending that the last like Monday, and then Tuesday I was like, okay, let me listen to the something, let me see what she well, she really gave us on this one did to the Mariah album like I told you, I did.

Oh, I've been told you.

I listened to that album.

I can't remember.

We talk a lot in this podcast.

I forgot it.

I forget a lot of things.

Yeah, now I listened to that, But I like the Summer album.

I'm I like to some album.

It's not it's very good.

Yet, all right.

So me and my sister have been debating on whether it's okay for a woman to approach a man.

She says no, no matter the circumstance, the environment, the situation, woman should never approach a man.

And I think the opposite.

There's the saying, there's plenty of fish in the see, but how do you expect to catch a fish if you never go fishing, you know what I mean?

And so.

Whether even the club, a concert wherever, if you see some you like, it's okay to give a little tap, a little hey, yellttle, what's up?

I see you?

You know?

And you leave it at that lead the chase into the man, lead the dates, whatever, I get'all that lead that to the god.

But as a woman, if you see something that you like, why not go say how first?

Baby?

D can you please chime in on whether if it's cool or not and what situation would it not be cool.

I just want to diet this, so y'all, please let me know appreciate y'all.

She's saw at the end of The Parker showman you talk, she used to be like on an outro or The Parker Show, they talk like, that's what you sound like.

It's like, are you reading that off your phone?

She sounds like a voice over.

We're definitely reading that.

One percent.

She had that time delivery.

I liked it.

No, no, I loved it.

Like no, I think it's cool for women to approaches a guy.

I think it's great.

Yeah, I don't think there's anything.

Yeah, it's nothing.

It's nothing wrong.

I mean shit, nowadays I might have to niggas getting canceled for everything.

Harassment.

I'm just I'm just saying.

We had a moment where it was like, yo, he was flirting with me.

It's like I just said, hello, Like what you're talking about?

Flirting with you?

Like, so women should I'm not gonna say approach men, but give the hint that you're not mad if he comes over and decides to talk to you, like kind of give that.

Give the reassurance that you're interested in is.

Give that woman that that energy was like okay, like she keep looking at me, she's smiling at me, like okay, cool, like I can go say hello and introduce myself, like but you know, it is it is.

It is a moment where men walking up to women and just start talking women would look at you like you're crazy, Like you.

Know, I also think it's great women are directing that way because as men were terrible at realizing when we're being flirted with as well.

Yeah, there's been plenty of times that I was like, you know, I was like trying to flirt with you, like like I'm telling you like I was like I didn't pick up on that at all.

I thought you I thought you just needed direction.

I didn't know.

I didn't know you were flirting with directions to my house, Like I don't even know you knew my name, like the yeah, I mean, but you know, it's it's cool, I do.

I do.

Like when you know a woman is like flirting with you or like initiative shot at you, it's like the conversation could become cool because you can start like, oh, you're trying to holler at me like you're trying to what you're doing.

You flirt like I say it, like you flirting with me.

Well okay, let me let me see what your flirt game.

Is like like.

But yes, the male ego is extremely fragile.

But but so is the female ego because I've seen plenty of women that never wanted to be the one to like shoot their shot, to reach out, and then they try it, reluctantly try it, and then it doesn't go the way that they thought.

Yeah, men, we can add a rejection because we had We get rejected all the time part of our that's all we know.

It's rejection.

Women are not.

Typically rejected, so when you put yourself out there, of course not every man is.

No matter who the woman is going to always like you or not.

So yeah, they get hurt pretty easily when they get rejected.

What do y'all get rejected?

How often you have you been rejected?

Baby?

I've been rejected once or twice in life.

I've to say those numbers is crazy.

No, I mean like as a shot shooting, shooting my shot with a guy, because I'm I do that not often, but more often than the average woman.

Because I learned a long time ago.

My my male friends, my brothers, my dad would tell me that men were intimidated by me because I wouldn't get approached as much.

And I see, like, am I ugly?

Like why the fuck do I not get approached?

And they were always just like, no, you have a very strong personality.

And if I was not like related to you and wanted to date you, I would be terrified to approach you.

I would be absolutely terrified.

And I learned what I would start shooting my shot at men that oh they liked me too.

They were just afraid to say anything to me because they thought that they were going to get like crushed.

They thought I was gonna be rude to them or something like that.

So I had to learn to be like yoh, what's up?

And I also like risen men up?

It's mad fun.

It's like a game to me.

How are men?

Because it doesn't happen to us often, so we get like yet, yeah, anytime Woe like flirts with a few times, like yeah, it does make you feel better, not like in an egotistical way, She's like, oh this is cool.

It doesn't happen a lot.

I'm a flyers.

Fuck, what's up?

When we're going out?

These are the day time hour I'll just like, I'll DM you a picture of my calendar in circle todays I'm free him then.

Nah, I see that's when I'm not fucking with you?

What you send me a calendar with circle?

I'm like, yo, who?

First of all, who are you a doctor?

These are the dates I'm free.

I could fit you in on the twelveth, No mean, joe in Now, I can fit you in.

But what's up?

This is when I'm available to see you.

Make it happen, niggas, make it happen.

Nothing is better than when you're flirting with a girl and your shit is working, like when your material is hitting.

That has to be when a comic is like he's killing a room.

It's the same feeling.

It's the same dopamine rhythm and motion like, oh my god, like shit work, because then you start playing in your next like your b move like if this one work, we out of him asking for the check, we out.

That's the greatest feeling in the world.

When you know a woman is like digging you and the conversation is like m and she's laughing.

It's like, damn, my material is landing tonight.

That one comment that puts it over the line.

Are we just flirting for the fuck of it?

Or are we flirting for a purpose?

In that conversation, that's that's when the dopamine hits, Like, oh nah, she really wants to come through.

Yeah, but it's a new type of woman out here, Rory, the woman that you have material lands with.

And then you're like, yeah, yeah, you think it's you know, everything grooving and then she hit you with that question.

So what's your intentions with me?

He just mad?

I don't know.

I don't have an answer.

I don't I wasn't expecting the double team, like you bought the Defender over.

I wasn't expecting that intentions.

Don't ask me what my attentions on we just met.

I don't know.

I don't know what my attentions aver tonight.

I don't know where I'm going after this.

I don't know.

Like, don't ask me my attentions with you.

I don't know you Like, that's I think that's weird.

Don't ask me, Like we just mad at the bar, So what's your intentions with me?

That's yeah, Like what you mean with my intentions, because then if I'm being honest, I'm an asshole.

Yeah, and this is why Demaris was saying we could get robbed so easily in the first night.

No, No, she's coming to my house.

I ain't going to our house.

You coming to my crib.

That's worse YEP show is.

But I got exit bridge so bad ship.

Put your ass right out?

You wake up?

Eight thing gone me.

I'm willing to try.

I'm willing to try.

Is it worth?

Is it worth some material items?

The material items can be replaced going experiences.

Can you steal that pearl necklace right off your neck after.

I give it?

One?

Like that?

That's called offense.

So you thought the Defender coming over was gonna scare Rory?

He just he just went before the double team got He just he just blewp ass to screen.

You're like, yeah, I saw you coming.

And if a woman came to my house and fleeced me, I would have to I'd call her and say, yo, you keep all that you're.

Ill because if she got all my ship down, all them steps, you deserve it.

What is she gonna take for me?

I don't have cash in my crib.

I don't have a bunch of jewelry.

I don't have like you got.

Jewelry, jewelry guns.

Want to take my guns, like I ain't cool?

Like then what.

Jewelry and guns?

That watch?

She could get a little a nice little piece for that watch.

She's gonna take it.

It's gonna be on the nice thing like I'm gonna see her like I'm not gonna see my watches going before she leaves.

You down?

Put me down, Nah, that ain't happening.

I ain't no young nigga like that'll happen to your young old niggas.

Get put down.

I mean, show on the screen.

What's her app though?

The deciding factor of.

This, easy ass.

I just want to see if it happened easy her eyes on her Instagram.

That's all I could tell in her eyes if she if she could fleece me, I could tell she would definitely set me up if.

You would let her just take me.

Do with me as you will, okay, I mean will be worse if you like it that much.

Said after she fleeced you, you still wanted the second day, you want to come.

Back like, yo, you can leave it.

I got another watch.

I just got a new one.

You couldn't find us on you missed this one.

This is what I hit inside my sneaker box.

Yeah, Lee, now you're doing treasure hunts with her.

You'll never find it.

But naked and house the way, you'll never find it.

That's not couple building to me.

Yeah that's.

YO.

Put the rolex box in the bed under the blanket.

I guess that, come get it.

Yeah, you can't play that game with me, baby d I'll have fake watches all over the house.

Take all the kids.

I wouldn't fake watches.

I'll go right to the canal and go crazy with the rolies.

Like, Yo, there's Shorty coming back.

She gonna think she hit the jackpot.

I'm in here snoring all kind of should take all that things.

There was an arrow when that the roe.

The fake rolies look better than the real ones.

Still do absolutely still do?

That was it?

That's on voicemail.

We had Hi.

Well listen, we got through this episode.

Well, I do want to know the matters quickly before we get out up fair.

The two times you were rejected, what was like, I'm sure was more than too did you cross?

I can remember?

How did they make you?

Well?

First of all, what was your game, like like, how did you same calendar move?

Or no, it was I had walked up to this guy at a party and I was like I think.

I was like, you had a girlfriend, and he said, unfortunately I do.

And I was like, that's not rejection.

Yeah you were going, Yeah that was one time, and then that's not being rejected though, that is rejected.

How is that rejection?

He don't want me?

He got a girlfriend, so you would have preferred if you had have been like, no, it's not about it.

It's not a preference.

I'm not saying that it was a that he hates me, but it was a rejection me.

Rejection is where there would have been an actual opportunity to date.

Like if you go if you go to a married woman and she's like, no, I'm married.

I don't think she just rejected me.

I think she's just married.

Okay, that's your opinion.

But rejection to me is a single person says I don't want to date you.

Oh yeah, that's that's happened to me.

From them, that's happened to me.

It was a calendar line, wasn't it?

A single person like turned you down?

Yeah, I mean it's I'm not.

I'm not everybody's cup of tea.

I'm way too much for mini men.

I am a lot of women.

So a lot of people don't like strong personalities for more docile women.

You know what why that's not true?

Well, you don't like you don't like women with like personalities like mine.

You prefer like more laid back, quiet women.

Who told you that I've dated every type of woman?

Baby there?

Okay, well which ones did you?

I've dated strong personalities, I've dated more laid back.

Which ones did you prefer?

It depends on honestly, Like looking back, it probably depending on where I was at, like in my life, like what my energy was like.

I've always been laid back, but I had a time where I was definitely more like wild and just like obnoxious too.

But now, I mean, strong personalities is probably something that I'm usually more attracted to because.

I'm more laid back.

Yeah, it's usually like that.

And if this nigga put too much may on my sandwich, I'm not saying nothing, but you can you know what I'm saying, like that type of shit, like get this nigga, this nigga put mad may on my sandwich.

I don't even want to go.

Laid back men love me, but I will always go for like the men who had more personality, and they just be like, wait.

But just because you laid back, don't mean you don't have no personality.

No, not like that's not what I mean.

But I mean like, like both of us can't be stars.

I always say that there can't be two stars in a relationship.

Somebody has to why not Jay Z Beyonce seemed to be very happy, Yes, but guess who took a step back to let the stars shine?

Who is the star in that relationship?

Personality they're both, they're both, they're both stars, but personality wise, who's the star?

But Jay is laid back?

Yeah, by nature even though he's a star, but he's a laid back person exactly.

Yeah, but he's want to come that when he met.

Trying to be a biggest start in Beyonce and in the relationship is fucking crazy out of relationship like that, I'm not even trying to be like, I ain't got nothing for that, Like that's all you.

And then the woman is the star, and yeah, that's I.

Agree, it should be like that, But there's also many relationships where the woman will take a back seat like they have like this big person bubbly personality of a man, and they'll be more more laid back.

I think that it has to be a balance in that way.

Yeah, ego wise as well, because when you got to two people who think the world revolves around them, it's tough to make a relationship work.

So yeah, one person like that is tough to make a relationship out.

Not exactly, there's relationships that function.

Just find like that that you think the world revolves the world revolves around not literally where they're a selfish person, but they're just like they think the world revolves around them, and they have a partner willing to my longest relationship because I thought the world revolved around me and I had someone whose world also revolved around me.

Now, granted we gave it pain in our relationship, but it was it's just a it's a different it's a different dynamic.

Now.

The trick is.

To making a woman feel like the world revolves around her.

But she definitely knows that you are to want to control m that's the chair women know like this nigga just letting me run them up and do what I want to do.

But I know not to play with this nigga, like he ain, he ain't going for the bullshit.

And there's also opposite dynamic with that as well, because I've had the opposite dynamic where it's like, okay, sweetheart, you you run it.

Everything is you control everything.

You appear to beat his body and everybody.

But we know, we know, deep down, we know.

Just said advice in a relationship, don't call your boyfriend a big man, because that's only condescending when you say it.

Now, you got it, You got a big man, your girl serious, your girl called you big man.

It's another nigga.

There's something my mother used to say, you got a chief.

Unfortunately I took it and I've used I used to hate when she said it when I was younger, but I say it now like when you just see a nigga, that's just all that You're like, I am, mister big dick.

Do your thing?

Do you think, mister big dick?

You got it?

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