The crossover event the world has eagerly awaited is here (OK, well, some of us are excited)--Matt McManus and Stormin' Norman Finkelstein on the same podcast episode. As it turns out, they share an interest in John Stuart Mill, so we thought it might be interesting to explore that. Before that, Ben does an Opening Argument on Bret Stephens's absurd genocide denialism.

Watch Norm deliver a lecture on Mill to the Communist Party of Great Britain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3WmzLM5G0

Read Matt on Mill's liberal socialism in Jacobin:

https://jacobin.com/2021/05/john-stewart-js-mill-liberal-socialism-locke-madison

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